# Eugenia Kuyda on software’s “YouTube moment”

An episode of [Sources with Alex Heath](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1840154537), 30 Oct 2025, 1 h 05 min.

Audio: https://pscrb.fm/rss/p/prfx.byspotify.com/e/api.substack.com/feed/podcast/213168011/a86bbb2ddea06dfeeee33e30feabe0f9.mp3

Ellis and Alex chat about turning life into an RPG video game, and are then joined by Replika and Wabi CEO Eugenia Kuyda to discuss her new app — for building your own hyper-personal apps in 5 minutes flat. They also talk about the MS-DOS era for AI, what’s wrong with AI companions today, and her advice for new founders getting started today. For full video episodes, subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@accesspod Follow ACCESS on Instagram and TikTok: http://instagram.com/accesspodcast http://tiktok.com/@accesspod Follow Alex's Sources newsletter and on X @alexeheath. Follow Ellis at Meaning and on X @hamburger. ACCESS is produced in partnership with the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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