# Contrapunto por Luis Gonzali

A podcast by lgonzali. 1) Lunes coyuntura: Erick Barrio y yo platicamos con invitados recurrentes sobre temas de coyuntura económica y financiera 2) Martes analiza: Ideas económicas y financieras distintas a las mainstream. Una visión distinta a la que impera en el mercado. 3) Miércoles especial: Programa especial, no necesariamente periódico, sobre temas financieros. 4) Jueves explica: Explico conceptos financieros y económicos de la manera más sencilla posible. La idea es hacerlo de la manera menos técnica posible. 5) Viernes recomienda: Recomendación de libros, artículos y películas.

Feed: https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/rss

## Latest episodes

- [Contrapunto Coyuntura #79: Mercados, SpaceX y Tesla, Televisa y AT&T.](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/dd7dfabeb7c4) (2026-10-26, 59 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/128120335/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-9-26%2Fb250c97a-eb75-8aff-57ce-c079422e34e5.m4a
- [Contrapunto inmobiliario #14: El diseño arquitectónico vale dinero](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/71f0354ae767) (2026-10-21, 51 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/127755856/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-9-20%2Fa6b54018-b7b5-bc09-273b-a27d8f2a9646.m4a
- [Contrapunto coyuntura #78: Data centers, Burbujas y utilidades. Corea, Banxico.](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/3890ef264885) (2026-10-19, 57 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/127584506/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-9-16%2Feb8f72a4-1ae6-0687-f9a5-bfa1bef6b0af.m4a
- [Contrapunto inmobiliario #13: Puedes construir un gran proyecto… y no tener a quién rentárselo](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/5f4d97e5d88b) (2026-10-14, 53 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/127204604/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-9-9%2F35b24bdb-8704-96ab-c278-97340591104d.m4a
- [Contrapunta coyuntura #77: Debilidad del peso, Elecciones intermedias, Francia, Derecha en el mundo.](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/3b461c1ab3de) (2026-10-12, 57 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/127195317/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-9-9%2F719f6433-4b9c-ebc3-f34b-07c6dc0bba30.m4a
- [Contrapunto Inmobiliario #12: El error más caro del real estate: comprar mal el terreno](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/c00fd3b19ce7) (2026-10-07, 54 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/126908496/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-9-6%2F94049f99-06da-3f39-3c97-286dd2605324.m4a
- [Contrapunto coyuntura #76: Afectaciones del petróleo, tipo de cambio y demanda en la industria.](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/71c3c2ff1c30) (2026-10-05, 60 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/126695752/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-9-2%2Fc06bd662-35dc-149c-4429-8b98cb3f2025.m4a
- [Contrapunto inmobiliario #11: ¿Qué hace que un proyecto inmobiliario sea una buena inversión?](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/fef970eaa449) (2026-09-30, 62 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/126455493/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-8-28%2Fc45cd98f-4e90-164a-18a9-d311e0376ef8.m4a
- [Contrapunto coyuntura #75: Mercado de tasas, Burbujas, IA, ETFs de desempeño deportivo.](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/19efb635ccdb) (2026-09-28, 60 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/126302123/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-8-25%2F4f580fd5-6556-4805-0c1c-0459751407cc.m4a
- [Contrapunto coyuntura #74: Decisión de la Fed, BOJ y Banxico. Tipo de cambio. Traxion.](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/5ef09b7550be) (2026-09-21, 61 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/125954284/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-8-18%2Fe7e9bbcd-9ed8-6538-6630-67a44cb18df7.m4a
- [Contrapunto Inmobiliario #10: ¿Cómo se financia el real estate a gran escala?](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/2acf05378600) (2026-09-16, 58 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/125744518/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-8-15%2F84e8640e-9c92-1051-504f-d841ad412bcf.m4a
- [Contrapunto coyuntura #73: Paquete económico 2027, El soborno de Trump, Elecciones en EE.UU.](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/1478e66bc52d) (2026-09-14, 44 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/125601733/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-8-11%2Fb3108fc5-2224-25f0-273d-72cb19788c50.m4a
- [Contrapunto inmobiliario #9: Turismo médico](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/8527f0042a8c) (2026-09-09, 68 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/125438170/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-8-9%2Fc0a5e4bb-7969-f370-fe67-8c4c456240e6.m4a
- [Contrapunto coyuntura #72: Fed, NVIDIA y Hugging Face, ¿ya llegamos al AGI?, Universidades vs. AI.](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/b6f5314c2ba2) (2026-09-07, 56 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/125210354/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-8-4%2Fb466623a-9b41-a13e-19c4-095d27c607ea.m4a
- [Contrapunto inmobiliario #8: Mercado inmobiliario a gran escala](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/584aa1304521) (2026-09-02, 59 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/124870882/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-7-28%2Fecae9ba0-669c-9a03-98c7-c58da6df130c.m4a
- [Contrapunto coyuntura #71: Jackson Hole, Super peso, Bienes raíces, Bonos basura, Polymarket](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/a963bf06b77c) (2026-08-31, 56 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/124869980/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-7-28%2F0f063ccd-7ba4-a90f-3e6b-6b6e36ff8150.m4a
- [Contrapunto inmobiliario #7: El arte y la ciencia de desarrollar centros comerciales.](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/3209cf59c3be) (2026-08-26, 62 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/124462982/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-7-19%2Fa7892031-848e-66fe-6283-e0d18f16e1f3.m4a
- [Contrapunto coyuntura #70: Warsh y la prima por ambigüedad, Economía y el farmeo de aura.](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/92ebd256f420) (2026-08-24, 56 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/124549307/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-7-21%2Fa07376f3-8ce8-0332-aded-7440c3095158.m4a
- [Contrapunto inmobiliario #6: La densificación como estilo de vida](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/c21117d831d9) (2026-08-19, 54 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/124365837/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-7-18%2F560d5645-52b8-c044-d855-ef82abf0c7b8.m4a
- [Contrapunto coyuntura #69: Mercado de apuestas, IPO de Anthropic, Impacto de la IA.](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/ea200598ce27) (2026-08-17, 61 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/124229094/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-7-14%2F5f0df73f-8324-5b37-7f7b-c033116eece4.m4a
- [Contrapunto Inmobiliario #5: La categoría que dejó de ser secundaria](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/cd5fb7bdba39) (2026-08-12, 63 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/123922100/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-7-7%2Fcca656e5-01dc-2d9b-cf3d-0d9605b05897.m4a
- [Contrapunto coyuntura #68: Política en LATAM, Mercados e IA, Inversión privada en MX, Fracking.](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/64676812b089) (2026-08-10, 48 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/123916964/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-7-7%2Febb60535-7904-73a4-71b9-a3b728d9aa1c.m4a
- [Contrapunto inmobiliario #4: El mapa del mercado inmobiliario](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/d69a02f5e2c3) (2026-08-05, 66 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/123537818/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-6-30%2Fd13f8a8b-157f-3ae0-a06b-fce8c28a806e.m4a
- [Contrapunto coyuntura #67: Corea del sur: ¿el canario en la mina de silicio?](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/d4b282a5edd7) (2026-08-03, 57 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/123590968/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-6-31%2Fd9894767-e506-694e-2f2c-9f5a95703fb4.m4a
- [Contrapunto inmobilario #3: El mapa que casi nadie está mirando](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/3b0a07561b88) (2026-07-29, 57 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/123195463/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-6-23%2F1d5304bb-e07d-da1f-7afa-0f1b4f69c4a2.m4a
- [Contrapunto coyuntura #66: Reinicio de la guerra, tarifas e inflación. Casa de Toño a la venta.](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/08dca23d3f12) (2026-07-27, 60 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/123274227/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-6-24%2Fbbdd1319-0772-5c3c-95d7-43a9ca3a279d.m4a
- [Contrapunto Inmobiliario #2: Antes de invertir en bienes raíces, entiende el negocio detrás](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/6bf388477014) (2026-07-22, 61 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/122941275/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-6-17%2F244609ce-3270-477f-bbd5-7211a8b32097.m4a
- [Contrapunto coyuntura #65: Retiro y estilo de vida. Cuando todo mundo es rico, nadie es rico.](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/6e05625beea4) (2026-07-20, 63 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/122971879/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-6-17%2F6c0ec4a7-5ca8-3928-ffa4-ffd6fc556a36.m4a
- [Contrapunto Inmobiliario #1: Por qué el ladrillo sigue ganando: el caso de los bienes raíces.](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/95a191d6a965) (2026-07-15, 55 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/122668465/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-6-10%2Fc40046d7-4d0c-e027-17bc-05a4ab8aa814.m4a
- [Contrapunto coyuntura #64: SpaceX entra a índices. ¿La Fed podría comprar acciones? Viva y Volaris](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/e6626cc8feb1) (2026-07-13, 59 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/122661221/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-6-10%2F98be7099-257a-8e33-3f7a-eda46e24de49.m4a
- [Contrapunto coyuntura #63: Industria del entretenimiento. TMEC. SpaceX](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/c3f912057467) (2026-07-06, 46 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/122354356/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-6-3%2F640500fa-9437-c48e-c019-eeb6a7ee6c43.m4a
- [Contrapunto coyuntura #62: ¿Banxico está monetizando deuda? ¿Es el fin del CAPEX de la IA?](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/fda02d485ab5) (2026-06-29, 57 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/122035041/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-5-26%2Fadbc6587-f4e7-24a4-1a31-c6acedc99773.m4a
- [Contrapunto coyuntura #61: Warsh cambia las reglas del juego. El fin de la IA barata.](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/f6f140f62ec0) (2026-06-22, 54 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/121716803/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-5-19%2F9e2ee5a3-b003-a142-6fe2-18f1da7683a4.m4a
- [Contrapunto Recap: Mensaje](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/ab9ac58cbdcb) (2026-06-17, 2 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/121586722/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-5-17%2Fa564d48f-3ede-f6b4-e1f0-e65dacceb529.m4a
- [Contrapunto coyuntura #60: IPO de SpaceX, Mercado de private equity en LATAM, view macro.](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/aae4c590b405) (2026-06-15, 58 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/121402670/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-5-12%2F684c4bd7-1aeb-d130-ace4-f3e5840dd604.m4a
- [Contrapunto coyuntura #59: Teorías de la conspiración actuales en el mercado](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/c22def26d06c) (2026-06-08, 56 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/121059033/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-5-5%2F13705497-3eed-a336-acc3-7695d11d7faf.m4a
- [Contrapunto Recap: 3 de junio de 2026](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/c14b9a9fbbf7) (2026-06-03, 11 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/120976633/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-5-3%2F731ce643-d29b-56ea-f9a4-3fdb3503bf98.m4a
- [Contrapunto coyuntura #58: Guerra y máximos históricos en los mercados, mundial y efectos para MX.](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/973223a32644) (2026-06-01, 61 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/120728149/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-4-29%2F3c86ad7d-3723-96c4-d523-bf20b29731da.m4a
- [Contrapunto coyuntura #57: Guerra e industria, Demanda ficticia y Spot, T-MEC, Baja Moody's, Bonos.](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/86c524f08e80) (2026-05-25, 56 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/120394942/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-4-22%2F9cae47e5-22a1-eb5c-3975-055669354590.m4a
- [Contrapunto Recap: 20 de mayo de 2026](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/713bd6fc9b48) (2026-05-21, 13 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/120309306/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-4-21%2Fe574598a-4c21-cfe2-92d2-e412bb7579bb.m4a
- [Contrapunto coyuntura #56: Consecuencias del cambio de perspectiva de S&P, Trump vs. Xi, Cerebras.](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/f8bec77072b1) (2026-05-18, 55 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/120044020/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-4-15%2Feb2c77c5-9094-0f7c-f63d-43285c39998e.m4a
- [Contrapunto Recap: 13 de mayo de 2026](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/0f52a47407d3) (2026-05-14, 10 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/119958784/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-4-14%2F773635be-6534-cc21-423e-36e7bbf15ad9.m4a
- [Contrapunto Coyuntura #55: Bienes raíces, VC, Banxico, Petróleo, Pandemia, Repensando la guerra](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/fdd26caeea69) (2026-05-11, 61 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/119646200/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-4-7%2F212e3c49-8523-5ccf-19bb-3731e2d5b72c.m4a
- [Contrapunto Recap: 6 de mayo de 2026](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/831cdc927a33) (2026-05-07, 13 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/119614784/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-4-7%2F8e49e4dc-dcc2-332e-8934-311b58b6b560.m4a
- [Contrapunto coyuntura #54: Argentina, NYC, Fed, Fertilizantes, Banxico, Healthcare, Longevidad.](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/99b5dc1d87a8) (2026-05-04, 60 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/119340505/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-4-1%2Fd8962f1e-00f5-40dc-cc93-285ecfc617be.m4a
- [Contrapunto Recap: 29 de abril de 2026](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/68f581b5138d) (2026-04-30, 11 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/119260749/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-3-30%2F5f784de4-b5f3-5f59-268c-5cd4fc57d7d5.m4a
- [Contrapunto coyuntura #53: Evento FMI (EU, Irán, Latam, MX). Guerra en Ucrania. Polarización.](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/8674875be568) (2026-04-27, 56 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/119005525/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-3-24%2F5ab64cdb-6085-6524-7d5e-b26874be62a6.m4a
- [Contrapunto Recap: 22 de abril de 2026](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/cb1d1f347621) (2026-04-23, 10 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/118886703/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-3-23%2F35ca2678-1264-4b9b-f4f1-6e7a948b0b68.m4a
- [Contrapunto coyuntura #52: Trump contra sus bases, Allbirds, IA, Robinhood](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/8761eea8452b) (2026-04-20, 60 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/118656082/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-3-18%2F7606f8e4-7573-0368-4a1c-2d78e1e91c0e.m4a
- [Contrapunto Recap: 15 de abril de 2026](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1839488108/dce317ce631c) (2026-04-16, 12 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fbbda71c/podcast/play/118530969/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-3-16%2F41783a0a-8f80-8888-8c30-8d30f322799d.m4a

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