# Unlearning hustle culture with Ryan Jon

An episode of [The Moment with Myf Warhurst](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1838865699), 1 Sep 2026, 33 min.

Audio: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/68b7d0f7d6e2cdaa26338841/e/6a965c5331161c116da4b5a4/media.mp3

Myf is joined by podcast royalty Ryan Jon from the Toni and Ryan podcast, just as they're about to set off on tour. Ryan chats about learning to unlearn hustle-culture conditioning around work and rest, and how he and Toni protect their friendship and creative energy to make sure the show lasts long into the future without burning out. He also reveals that stepping back and letting Toni shine, rather than trying to be "the star," became the secret to the show's success, plus Ryan pitches Myf a brand new podcast idea. Guest: Ryan Jon Dunn (@ryan.jon) Toni And Ryan Podcast Live show dates and info at toniandryan.com.au *Hosted by the queen of culture herself, *The Moment with Myf Warhurst* unpacks ‘The Moment’ that has everyone talking, diving deeper than the headlines to give the details you need in the time you’ve got. More Myf: Book - Middle Rage OUT NOW Follow Better at Home - @betterathome_podcast Stay Connected Instagram @myfwarhurst TikTok @myfwarhurst LinkedIn Myf Warhurst Get In Touch Brands/ Partnerships: Myf@mik.studio Show Credits Host & Executive Producer: Myf Warhurst Executive Producer: Amelia Chappelow Producer: Roisin Yau Engineer & Editing: Grant Offner Video Producer: Lauren Cooper Copywriter & Strategy: Antonia Minutolo Photography: Julia Nalles Artwork: Brigitte Greene Partnerships: Dylan Adams hello@mik.studio This is a MIK Made production Recorded on Wurundjeri Land Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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