# 2025-10-31 LIVE DEBATE \[I AM THE MESSIAH\]

An episode of [Deconstruction Zone](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1837730286), 4 Jan 2026, 3 h 28 min.

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## Transcript

[0:19] Speaker 1: Welcome in children.
[0:22] Speaker 2: We have all of the streams running and open now.
[0:27] Speaker 2: Sometime soon, our fellow, our fellow prophet Dalton will be
[0:34] Speaker 2: here at some point. Thank you for being here at
[0:37] Speaker 2: the stream so you can all hear the truth of
[0:41] Speaker 2: the gospel of Doug and Sharon Stone. Obviously I am
[0:45] Speaker 2: both the prophet and the Messiah of Doug and Sharon Stone. Jesus,
[0:50] Speaker 2: the so called Messiah, was a fraud. He was a
[0:56] Speaker 2: loser who accomplished nothing. In fact, he couldn't even be
[1:00] Speaker 2: a successful carpenter. The only time he's ever seen with
[1:03] Speaker 2: nails and wood, he got himself crucified. I didn't see
[1:07] Speaker 2: him build shit. Did you see him build anything? I
[1:10] Speaker 2: didn't see him build anything. We do have some superchat's friends,
[1:14] Speaker 2: so we're gonna get right into it. We should have
[1:16] Speaker 2: some guests loading up. If you're watching on TikTok and
[1:20] Speaker 2: you doubt the veracity of my claims, please hit the
[1:23] Speaker 2: guest request button. We would love to talk about the
[1:26] Speaker 2: false Messiah, the liar and the fraud Jesus and how
[1:30] Speaker 2: he is not the Messiah but I am. If you're
[1:32] Speaker 2: watching on YouTube, you can go to tiny dot c
[1:35] Speaker 2: c forward slash DZ guests. There's a clickable link in
[1:39] Speaker 2: the description of the video for those who don't have
[1:42] Speaker 2: finger fingers that can actually type. We do have a
[1:45] Speaker 2: super chat from our friend Angry and Malachi Infant and
[1:48] Speaker 2: trust me, you should be angry in case moonlanding comes
[1:52] Speaker 2: up again. And I don't know if moonlanding's coming up today.
[1:55] Speaker 2: Best evidence is Number one moon rocks a day older
[1:59] Speaker 2: than every rock on Earth. Well, that may be true,
[2:01] Speaker 2: but you have to understand if you talk to someone
[2:04] Speaker 2: who doesn't believe we landed on the Moon, they obviously
[2:06] Speaker 2: don't believe we have moon rocks. You could He'll never
[2:10] Speaker 2: convince them that we have moon rocks that have been
[2:15] Speaker 2: dated by any method possible. Number two Apollo fourteen pendulum
[2:20] Speaker 2: swinging under lunar gravity. Well, again, that only works if
[2:27] Speaker 2: you believe we went to the Moon and deployed a pendulum.
[2:31] Speaker 2: I agree with you, Yes, it would be good evidence
[2:33] Speaker 2: if they actually believed in reason and logic, which they don't. Unfortunately.
[2:39] Speaker 2: Number three retro reflectors, which we can still observe now, that,
[2:42] Speaker 2: my friend, I think is a really good piece of
[2:45] Speaker 2: evidence that we did land on the Moon, because we
[2:47] Speaker 2: can identify that today from the earth. They can actually
[2:51] Speaker 2: be seen and observed as we speak right now, in
[2:55] Speaker 2: this very moment. I think that's probably the best evidence
[2:57] Speaker 2: that being said, they'll still deny, you know what I mean,
[3:01] Speaker 2: because they live and make believe land where men walk
[3:04] Speaker 2: on water, but for some reason they can't fly to
[3:07] Speaker 2: the moon. Make that makes sense. Thank you for the
[3:10] Speaker 2: super chat, Angry mal okay, good hear from me and Edward.
[3:13] Speaker 2: Thank you for the supertest, says I love it when
[3:15] Speaker 2: Rob Joe and Stay Woke keep returning and their new
[3:17] Speaker 2: arguments are Justin, can't you just accept words don't mean
[3:21] Speaker 2: words this time? Ps? Imagine if Justin used a priest
[3:24] Speaker 2: collar on one live stream. That's gonna happen. Actually, I
[3:27] Speaker 2: made a promise to Hanji like two years ago that
[3:30] Speaker 2: I would do it, and that I didn't get around
[3:31] Speaker 2: to doing it. We'll make sure that happens. That's gonna
[3:34] Speaker 2: be a thing that actually happens. Stateful Heretic. Thank you
[3:38] Speaker 2: for the ten hour, ten pound chat, says I heard
[3:42] Speaker 2: that Justin watches streams horizontally and Dalton watches them vertically.
[3:45] Speaker 2: On TikTok. Even the highest priests of Doug are in
[3:48] Speaker 2: disagreement sounds like a classic rock Papal skives them it
[3:52] Speaker 2: is not. First of all, I watched the horizontal stream
[3:55] Speaker 2: whenever I'm on computer. I watched the vertical stream whenever
[3:58] Speaker 2: I'm on my phone. It's device dependent for me, but
[4:02] Speaker 2: everybody has their preferences. Good to see you, Gretchen, Thank
[4:06] Speaker 2: you for the super test, says do we get to
[4:07] Speaker 2: see Doug's sweet ash shrine today? Well, unfortunately, to make
[4:11] Speaker 2: this a reality, I had to use my green screen,
[4:13] Speaker 2: so I can't really show the shrine. But I can
[4:15] Speaker 2: show the shrine in the very near future, maybe in
[4:18] Speaker 2: the coming week or so. I definitely would. We need
[4:23] Speaker 2: to show off the goods of Doug and I believe
[4:27] Speaker 2: we have our friend Chet in the box. Welcome in Disciple.
[4:35] Speaker 3: Hey, good to see the Messiah again. It's been a while.
[4:39] Speaker 2: It's great to see you chat. What's on your mind?
[4:46] Speaker 3: Oh, not too much? Not too much. I mean, I
[4:48] Speaker 3: was just super pumped and to see return. I actually
[4:53] Speaker 3: wonder how many people remember Smissiah justin from the first appearances.
[4:59] Speaker 2: It's been a little while. I had to go away
[5:02] Speaker 2: so that I could regain my strength and come back
[5:07] Speaker 2: with with mighty powers. And deeds and even more fulfilled prophecies.
[5:13] Speaker 2: But today we are we are here to announce the
[5:17] Speaker 2: day of the Lord.
[5:20] Speaker 3: Amen.
[5:21] Speaker 2: The spirit of Lord is upon me chat of course,
[5:25] Speaker 2: of course.
[5:26] Speaker 3: And I you know, I don't remember hearing anything about
[5:29] Speaker 3: Doug during the first appearances of Messiah Justin. So this
[5:33] Speaker 3: I was really hoping that when when you know, Messiah
[5:37] Speaker 3: Justin returned, that I wouldn't accused of blasphemy. And apparently
[5:42] Speaker 3: you know you are confirming the validity of the worship
[5:46] Speaker 3: of Doug.
[5:46] Speaker 2: So I'm very certainly check, my friend, open open your
[5:51] Speaker 2: bible to Hooseiah four twelve. Does it not say that
[5:54] Speaker 2: my people consult a piece of wood? Could that none
[6:00] Speaker 2: other than sharing the stone? And in Deuteronomy four twenty eight,
[6:04] Speaker 2: does it not say that you will serve God's objects
[6:07] Speaker 2: of wood and stone?
[6:13] Speaker 4: Oh? It does.
[6:14] Speaker 3: You're right, You're right, the.
[6:17] Speaker 2: Scriptures were clear, my friend, Doug and Sharon Stone are
[6:20] Speaker 2: the the cob redemptrics and redeemer of this reality. And
[6:24] Speaker 2: now we have what appears to probably be some naysayers
[6:30] Speaker 2: coming up to query welcome in Blue. Hey, how you
[6:37] Speaker 2: doing doing well? Blue? Are you at least eighteen.
[6:41] Speaker 5: Yes?
[6:42] Speaker 2: Sure? And do you believe that the liar and fraud
[6:45] Speaker 2: of Jesus was the Messiah?
[6:48] Speaker 6: No?
[6:49] Speaker 2: Oh, lesson though, are you an atheist? Yes, that's a shame.
[6:57] Speaker 2: I'm the Messiah. I'm sorry what I'm the Messiah?
[7:04] Speaker 7: Well, I will worship you.
[7:05] Speaker 2: Then, indeed, my son, thank you very much. The childlike
[7:12] Speaker 2: faith of this new disciple should be on display for
[7:15] Speaker 2: all friends.
[7:16] Speaker 5: Let me, do.
[7:21] Speaker 8: You have a time for a question or are you
[7:23] Speaker 8: just not interested in talking to an atheist?
[7:25] Speaker 5: And I get that we have time.
[7:28] Speaker 2: We just started have.
[7:31] Speaker 8: There's an individual on TikTok and he has a logical
[7:36] Speaker 8: syllogism that he claims proves the existence of God, not
[7:42] Speaker 8: any particular God, just the existence that an uncreated creator exists.
[7:49] Speaker 8: And I'm having a hard time deconstructing his argument.
[7:55] Speaker 2: The argument is true, I am he did you not
[8:05] Speaker 2: just confess?
[8:08] Speaker 5: I did?
[8:09] Speaker 4: I did?
[8:09] Speaker 5: You?
[8:09] Speaker 9: Are you are the Messiah?
[8:10] Speaker 7: Yes?
[8:11] Speaker 2: I am indeed the Messiah? And the gods you are
[8:14] Speaker 2: looking for are Doug and Sharon Stone.
[8:18] Speaker 8: By the way, your your outfit is actulutely spot on
[8:22] Speaker 8: with the background.
[8:23] Speaker 1: I mean, it's like just perfect.
[8:25] Speaker 4: It is admirable.
[8:26] Speaker 2: Appreciate that you're welcome tell you what send me the
[8:31] Speaker 2: syllogism over discord, I'll tell you why it doesn't work.
[8:34] Speaker 8: Okay, okay, I would appreciate that. That's how you're better,
[8:37] Speaker 8: a better platform than doing it live like this.
[8:40] Speaker 2: Indeed, thanks man, cheers, triin, go in peace. All right,
[8:50] Speaker 2: we do have some other people loading up that may
[8:53] Speaker 2: or may not be believers, chet, Let's bring them in
[8:57] Speaker 2: and see what we get. Welcome in or not?
[9:04] Speaker 10: Justin real quick thirty four above age, We're good. I'll
[9:11] Speaker 10: make this short and simple, massive huge fan. Just you're
[9:17] Speaker 10: the best. I was actually just a few it was
[9:20] Speaker 10: just or literally earlier this week, I was thinking about
[9:23] Speaker 10: years ago when you did this and didn't even occur
[9:27] Speaker 10: to me that this could happen today. So thank you.
[9:31] Speaker 10: This is amazing. I will be enjoying this for as
[9:35] Speaker 10: long as you do this today. And yeah again I'll
[9:40] Speaker 10: go ahead and hop down. But just think I was
[9:42] Speaker 10: trying to even think of like some of the things
[9:44] Speaker 10: that you were saying and doing when you did this before,
[9:46] Speaker 10: and it's like here it is so just thank you
[9:50] Speaker 10: for everything you do all the time.
[9:52] Speaker 5: You're the man, and.
[9:53] Speaker 2: I'm here to serve or not, I'm here to serve
[9:55] Speaker 2: H be well disabled.
[9:58] Speaker 5: Yeah, have a great day.
[9:59] Speaker 10: I don't know how to drop down.
[10:01] Speaker 2: I've got youa I can drop you down, and I
[10:05] Speaker 2: can send down into shield.
[10:09] Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, as a point of order,
[10:11] Speaker 3: you know, Messiah justin doesn't want fans. He wants disciples.
[10:14] Speaker 2: So that is the case. That is the case. I'm
[10:17] Speaker 2: not looking for fans. I'm looking for followers and disciples
[10:21] Speaker 2: that will do my work. And you'll know that they
[10:25] Speaker 2: are my disciples when they produce the fruit that I
[10:28] Speaker 2: am looking for. Namely, none of that violent stuff from
[10:33] Speaker 2: the New Testament that Jesus was all for. God is
[10:35] Speaker 2: not gonna light you on fire. That's not a real thing.
[10:38] Speaker 2: That's mythology. Jesus made that up, scare you because he's
[10:41] Speaker 2: a liar or fraud. You'll find none of that in
[10:43] Speaker 2: the Hebrew Bible. It's not there. Chet you've for the
[10:45] Speaker 2: Hebrew Bible. Is there any health fire in there?
[10:50] Speaker 3: Absolutely not.
[10:52] Speaker 2: I'm not a lick of it. Guys just making things up. Well,
[10:57] Speaker 2: let me grab a couple of super chits. We're waiting
[10:59] Speaker 2: for some opposition, for somebody, anybody who can actually tell
[11:05] Speaker 2: me why Jesus would be the Messiah, and I would
[11:09] Speaker 2: not I've fulfilled at least twenty five, maybe thirty different prophecies.
[11:13] Speaker 2: In fact, during during your viewing today, you will in
[11:17] Speaker 2: fact witness more prophecies being fulfilled in real time. This
[11:21] Speaker 2: will happened today. We'll bring somebody up. Welcome in, mister Karen.
[11:34] Speaker 11: I just wanted to say it. Just because you use
[11:38] Speaker 11: the word maybe maybe twenty five maybe thirty, that means
[11:42] Speaker 11: you have not a messiah.
[11:43] Speaker 2: You don't have divine knowledge.
[11:44] Speaker 12: You're using the words like maybe, yeah.
[11:48] Speaker 2: The Messiah is not omniscient. I don't know where you
[11:50] Speaker 2: got that from.
[11:52] Speaker 12: You're confused yourself.
[11:54] Speaker 7: That's why you use.
[11:55] Speaker 2: Can you can you show me where the Hebrew Bible
[11:58] Speaker 2: says the Messiah is going to be omniscient.
[12:02] Speaker 13: It's on the third page.
[12:04] Speaker 2: It's not on the third page. Did Jesus know the
[12:06] Speaker 2: day and the hour that he was going to return? Yeah, no,
[12:11] Speaker 2: he says he doesn't. He says he doesn't know the
[12:13] Speaker 2: day nor the hour, not even the angels, only the
[12:16] Speaker 2: Father in heaven, which means he wasn't omniscion either. You
[12:19] Speaker 2: can't even hold your own line.
[12:22] Speaker 14: No, no, he knew, but he write down that he
[12:25] Speaker 14: doesn't knew.
[12:25] Speaker 2: This is embarrassing. He didn't, so he lied then, Yeah,
[12:30] Speaker 2: so the Gospels are a lie. I think you're a liar.
[12:32] Speaker 2: I think you're of your father, the devil for the
[12:36] Speaker 2: greater good.
[12:36] Speaker 7: He lied you.
[12:38] Speaker 2: You are of the generation of vipers.
[12:43] Speaker 1: Vipers, no cobras.
[12:47] Speaker 2: You're you're affirming a lying book, cope cobra. The reality is,
[12:54] Speaker 2: I am the Messiah. Jesus was a fake and in fact,
[12:58] Speaker 2: today and you're hearing at this moment, I'm going to
[13:00] Speaker 2: fulfill Psalm twenty six Versus four. I do not sit
[13:04] Speaker 2: with the worthless, nor do I consort with hypocrites. You've
[13:07] Speaker 2: seen it here. A prophecy is fulfilled in your hearing
[13:10] Speaker 2: at this moment. Who could deny the divinity of the Messiah?
[13:15] Speaker 2: I am, Did you see it? Chet? I think we
[13:18] Speaker 2: all saw it.
[13:21] Speaker 12: Amen.
[13:21] Speaker 2: Yes, another prophecy for the books, my friends, another prophecy
[13:26] Speaker 2: for the books. It's undeniable. It's completely undeniable.
[13:32] Speaker 3: Right before your eyes, from the Messiah himself. You don't
[13:35] Speaker 3: have to trust. You know ancient words. You can see it.
[13:38] Speaker 2: Indeed, yes, don't you don't. It's not first hand or
[13:42] Speaker 2: it's not secondhand it's not third hand, it's firsthand. You
[13:45] Speaker 2: witnessed it with your own very eyes. You saw the
[13:48] Speaker 2: prophecies come true. Let us grab our our next adversary.
[14:00] Speaker 7: What can.
[14:03] Speaker 4: Now listen? I want you explained to me why you're
[14:09] Speaker 4: the Messiah.
[14:11] Speaker 2: Because I said so, because I fulfilled dozens and dozens
[14:15] Speaker 2: of prophecies, and and I can even turn water into
[14:20] Speaker 2: wine before your very eyes. I can do. I can
[14:22] Speaker 2: do all things.
[14:25] Speaker 4: There's nothing.
[14:26] Speaker 2: There's nothing that I can't do.
[14:28] Speaker 4: Let me see what you're gotting wicked and.
[14:30] Speaker 2: Diverse generation asking for signs, you'll get no sign?
[14:34] Speaker 4: Oh no, I mean you said it. So if you
[14:37] Speaker 4: said it, I want to prove.
[14:39] Speaker 2: And evil in adulterous generation seeketh after a sign.
[14:43] Speaker 4: I don't know, Adultrey, I just want to see if
[14:47] Speaker 4: you're really talking about what you.
[14:49] Speaker 2: Are an adulter right now? Looking after a sign? Do
[14:54] Speaker 2: you just fill in our hearing? Do not be like
[14:57] Speaker 2: a horse or a meal without understanding.
[15:01] Speaker 4: Jesus was showing that he was the massig. If you
[15:05] Speaker 4: said you're the Messiah, you cannot show, then you a
[15:08] Speaker 4: false prophet.
[15:09] Speaker 2: What did Jesus tell them when they asked for a sign?
[15:12] Speaker 4: He made the why no.
[15:14] Speaker 2: He didn't. When when he had asked for a sign,
[15:18] Speaker 2: he said you he said, he said, you'll get He said,
[15:22] Speaker 2: you'll get no sign. He said, a wicked and perverse
[15:26] Speaker 2: generation asked for a sign. Those were his words, he.
[15:29] Speaker 4: Bring, he bring lessons from the dead.
[15:33] Speaker 2: What do you even your false Messiah refused to perform
[15:38] Speaker 2: signs upon demand? Have you not read the book of Matthew.
[15:42] Speaker 2: Some of the scribes and pharisees said to him, teacher,
[15:44] Speaker 2: we wish to see a sign from you, And he said,
[15:47] Speaker 2: and evil and adulterous generation asked for a sign. No
[15:50] Speaker 2: sign will be given, of course, because because you are
[15:54] Speaker 2: an evil and adulterous generation, which means you need to
[15:58] Speaker 2: worship me by faith, you get no sign.
[16:01] Speaker 7: You're evil.
[16:02] Speaker 2: You wouldn't even you wouldn't even trust the prophets. If
[16:05] Speaker 2: you won't trust the prophets and Moses, a sign will
[16:08] Speaker 2: never convert you. You need to give up your your
[16:12] Speaker 2: heart of stone and receive the heart of flesh.
[16:16] Speaker 4: How can I trust the prophet when they were actually
[16:19] Speaker 4: dark skin? In every movie you see they white.
[16:25] Speaker 2: Who Jesus, he's not white? That that's exactly the problem.
[16:28] Speaker 2: Jesus wasn't white. In all the movies, he's depicted as
[16:31] Speaker 2: white because the Christian tradition can't even figure out what
[16:34] Speaker 2: the Messiah is supposed to look like. I'm telling you
[16:36] Speaker 2: right now that the Messiah is white. You're looking at them.
[16:41] Speaker 4: Okay, So I'm asking you again, how can I see
[16:48] Speaker 4: that you are the Messiah?
[16:50] Speaker 2: You have to have faith.
[16:52] Speaker 4: So just have faith.
[16:54] Speaker 2: You have to You have to come come to me
[16:57] Speaker 2: like the children. Oh boy, I've I've fulfilled many prophecies.
[17:05] Speaker 2: Isaiah sixty I will bring forth Isaiah sixt Isaiah sixty
[17:12] Speaker 2: five to nine.
[17:14] Speaker 4: Tell to me, please let me know.
[17:16] Speaker 2: It says, I will bring forth descendants.
[17:20] Speaker 4: Heal my soul. Why will you you?
[17:24] Speaker 2: Zachariah nine nine, see your king comes to you triumphant
[17:28] Speaker 2: in Victoria is humble and writing on a donkey. I've
[17:30] Speaker 2: written a donkey me too, Psalm twenty two. They pierced
[17:36] Speaker 2: my hands in my feet. I've had my hands and
[17:39] Speaker 2: my feet pierced by nails before.
[17:41] Speaker 4: Let me see show me the scards.
[17:45] Speaker 2: Nails don't always leave scars. I don't know if you
[17:47] Speaker 2: know how the human body works. Also, I'm the Messiah.
[17:50] Speaker 2: I don't scar I get.
[17:51] Speaker 4: A nail in the middle of my arm. I will
[17:53] Speaker 4: have scar forever.
[17:54] Speaker 2: It's ridiculous for you to think that the Messiah is
[17:57] Speaker 2: going to scar.
[17:58] Speaker 4: I'm divine, But then that's the bust, to be like
[18:02] Speaker 4: his mark that he is.
[18:05] Speaker 2: No, you're confused with that fraud, Jesus. I'm not the fraud. Jesus.
[18:10] Speaker 4: You say you were, you were. You had nails in
[18:13] Speaker 4: your arm before, so that means you have that.
[18:16] Speaker 2: That's not. That means known.
[18:18] Speaker 4: Yes, it does, listen, I just months ago.
[18:23] Speaker 2: Well, this happened twenty This happened twenty years ago. So
[18:26] Speaker 2: I think you're confused about the state of affairs. Also,
[18:29] Speaker 2: I told you I'm divine. I don't even scar.
[18:32] Speaker 4: I believe it.
[18:35] Speaker 2: I don't, and I don't age I was born like this. Yeah,
[18:40] Speaker 2: I came out of the womb with a full beard.
[18:42] Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure you did. Indeed, I'm pretty sure. I'm
[18:47] Speaker 4: not doubting you, not at all, not at all. And
[18:51] Speaker 4: I know that the Bible said that, Jesus.
[18:54] Speaker 2: Now in your hearing, in your hearing, friends, I will fulfill.
[18:59] Speaker 2: I will phil Isaiah twenty eight to fifteen, when he
[19:03] Speaker 2: says we have made a covenant with death and with
[19:06] Speaker 2: you all. We have made an agreement. Witness. You are
[19:09] Speaker 2: the we? Aren't you? Are you part of a covenant
[19:15] Speaker 2: with Jesus?
[19:17] Speaker 4: I am not the we?
[19:18] Speaker 2: I am the Are you part of the covenant?
[19:21] Speaker 4: I'm the one that run away from people like?
[19:23] Speaker 2: Are you part of the covenant with Jesus?
[19:26] Speaker 4: I don't want to go to hell?
[19:28] Speaker 2: Or are you part of Are you part of Jesus' covenant?
[19:32] Speaker 4: I just want to be a free bird. Are you
[19:34] Speaker 4: a part of Jesus his govenant?
[19:36] Speaker 2: Are you part of Jesus's covenant with the Jerusalem or
[19:40] Speaker 2: the Israel? Are you denying? Are you denying Jesus before men?
[19:46] Speaker 4: I don't know who Jesus is.
[19:48] Speaker 2: You're denying your own savior. That's crazy. That's a good thing,
[19:52] Speaker 2: because I'm your savor.
[19:55] Speaker 4: Well, how can I not deny him? I don't know him.
[19:57] Speaker 4: Do you know him?
[20:02] Speaker 7: No?
[20:02] Speaker 2: Because he's he's dead. That's why no one knows him.
[20:05] Speaker 2: He's gone. He's warm food. But I'm alive and I'm
[20:07] Speaker 2: in front of your eyes and you're not serious. We're
[20:10] Speaker 2: gonna move on to somebody who's more of an adult.
[20:14] Speaker 2: Let me grab a couple of super chats. Friends. Thank you,
[20:17] Speaker 2: friends for the tithes and for the offerings. STP five,
[20:21] Speaker 2: thank you so much for the fifty dollars. Tithe says Spikey,
[20:24] Speaker 2: your mod on Discord is in a hole. Aside from that,
[20:28] Speaker 2: please take down God Logic. I came humbly to ask
[20:31] Speaker 2: how can I pay you to make this happen? Your
[20:34] Speaker 2: work is incredible STP five. I don't add the moderators,
[20:38] Speaker 2: and I don't even manage the moderators. Benny's in charge
[20:41] Speaker 2: of all that. The reality is, if somebody is getting muted,
[20:46] Speaker 2: they're probably doing something that they're not supposed to be doing.
[20:50] Speaker 2: I went and I purged my mods like three months
[20:53] Speaker 2: ago because everybody was complaining about them, and now everyone's
[20:56] Speaker 2: complaining about them again. I don't know how to tell
[20:59] Speaker 2: you I don't manage the mods. There's a section in
[21:02] Speaker 2: the discord if you have a complaint with a mod,
[21:04] Speaker 2: you can document it and you can send it to
[21:06] Speaker 2: us and we can investigate whether or not a mod
[21:08] Speaker 2: is acted inappropriately. That being said, mods, for the love
[21:13] Speaker 2: of Messiah, stop muting people unless they've said something that's
[21:16] Speaker 2: going to get my live band. I don't care if
[21:18] Speaker 2: they cuss at me. I don't care if they cuss
[21:20] Speaker 2: at you, I don't care if they cuss at the community.
[21:23] Speaker 2: I don't care if they do anything that you deem
[21:25] Speaker 2: inappropriate unless they're spamming the chat or they're saying something
[21:30] Speaker 2: that's going to get my live taken down. Stop muting them. Please.
[21:33] Speaker 2: This is as close to a free speech zone as
[21:36] Speaker 2: you're going to get on the Internet. We should not
[21:38] Speaker 2: be muting people because they have dissenting opinions, especially not
[21:41] Speaker 2: people who agree with us. Why are we muting our
[21:44] Speaker 2: own people? Are you trying to disintegrate our community? Please stop?
[21:47] Speaker 2: I don't want to have to purge the mods again.
[21:50] Speaker 2: Thank you, appreciate the announcement STP five Again, thank you
[21:54] Speaker 2: for the additional fifty dollars tithe that. I think there's
[21:57] Speaker 2: so much more you have to offer. Random are a
[22:00] Speaker 2: drop in the bucket. I want to pay to see
[22:03] Speaker 2: you take down real names, real audiences, people of influence. Well,
[22:07] Speaker 2: it'll probably happen eventually once they once I'm able to
[22:11] Speaker 2: get onto stage with them again. I've stated this quite clearly.
[22:14] Speaker 2: It is not my intention to become the debate lord
[22:17] Speaker 2: and be every apologist. My goal is to get my
[22:20] Speaker 2: message to as many people that are willing to hear it,
[22:23] Speaker 2: and this is usually the easiest way to do it.
[22:25] Speaker 2: The reality is my live streams now get more viewers
[22:28] Speaker 2: than the apologist live stream debate streams will ever hope
[22:32] Speaker 2: to get, which means we're doing the right thing right now,
[22:35] Speaker 2: we're getting eyeballs on the message. And last one, thank
[22:38] Speaker 2: you for the additional fifty dollars tie STP because I
[22:41] Speaker 2: honestly feel in my heart you are doing the world
[22:43] Speaker 2: a favor, and I speak for the fans that we
[22:46] Speaker 2: want a real debate from you. I don't know what
[22:48] Speaker 2: to tell you. I don't have their phone numbers. I
[22:51] Speaker 2: can't call Kent Hovind and ask them to debate me.
[22:55] Speaker 2: That's not how these things work. The reality is you
[22:58] Speaker 2: have to get invited to these stage debates. Nobody's coming
[23:01] Speaker 2: to my house to offer me to debate them on
[23:03] Speaker 2: a stage. Eventually, maybe one day that'll happen. My information
[23:07] Speaker 2: is public, my email address and everything. If they want
[23:10] Speaker 2: to invite me to a debate, they will, they haven't.
[23:13] Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell you. I would pay
[23:15] Speaker 2: for you to go head to head with God logic
[23:18] Speaker 2: right now, he's live. I don't even know who god
[23:20] Speaker 2: logic is again, I don't watch these clowns. You shouldn't
[23:23] Speaker 2: watch these clowns. In fact, if you're wasting your time
[23:26] Speaker 2: watching Apologetic live streams, all you're doing is giving them
[23:30] Speaker 2: more view. Stop doing it. Make them come to us.
[23:32] Speaker 2: I've been saying this for two years. Don't give them
[23:34] Speaker 2: any of your attention. Carlos. Thank you for sending out
[23:37] Speaker 2: twenty DZ Debate memberships. I really appreciate that, friend. That's
[23:40] Speaker 2: a huge, huge w and SDP apparently my new favorite disciple.
[23:45] Speaker 2: Thank you for the additional fifty dollars. Tithe does please
[23:49] Speaker 2: go into detail for people like me who are interested
[23:52] Speaker 2: in sponsoring these requests, whether that be through a GoFundMe,
[23:55] Speaker 2: I don't care. I speak for everyone. We would all
[23:58] Speaker 2: chip into you tackle these people. It was my friend.
[24:01] Speaker 2: It's not a matter of money. I would do it
[24:03] Speaker 2: for free. It's a matter of like, you can't just
[24:06] Speaker 2: walk up to somebody's like YouTube page and challenge them
[24:10] Speaker 2: to a debate. That's not how things work. There's like
[24:13] Speaker 2: actually a format that has to be had, so I
[24:16] Speaker 2: don't have to tell you. And again, I don't go
[24:19] Speaker 2: on other people's live streams like Apologetic live streams. It's
[24:23] Speaker 2: not worth my time or anyone else's time. Randy Wilson,
[24:26] Speaker 2: thank you for sending out twenty Deconstruction Zone memberships. I
[24:30] Speaker 2: really really appreciate that, friend. And with that, we're going
[24:33] Speaker 2: to save the rest of the super chats for later
[24:35] Speaker 2: and we're going to grab our next guest, bocom In Jay. Hello, Jay?
[24:49] Speaker 2: Are you at least eighteen?
[24:52] Speaker 9: I'm twenty eight?
[24:53] Speaker 2: And do you believe that Jesus is a Messiah?
[24:57] Speaker 1: I do not?
[24:57] Speaker 9: Can I still be in here?
[24:59] Speaker 5: No?
[25:00] Speaker 2: Thank you?
[25:01] Speaker 5: I love you.
[25:02] Speaker 2: Cheers another beloved disciple come to pay their respects. We'll
[25:09] Speaker 2: grab another welcome and smile?
[25:17] Speaker 15: Well, hello there, smile.
[25:19] Speaker 2: Are you at least eighteen?
[25:21] Speaker 5: Yes?
[25:23] Speaker 2: And do you believe that Jesus was the Messiah?
[25:27] Speaker 7: Oh?
[25:27] Speaker 16: Gosh, I don't either.
[25:29] Speaker 2: Congratulations. Do you believe that I'm the Messiah?
[25:34] Speaker 9: Eh?
[25:34] Speaker 16: Don't hate me, but I don't.
[25:38] Speaker 2: Why is this the case?
[25:39] Speaker 5: Child?
[25:41] Speaker 9: Uh?
[25:46] Speaker 16: Because I actually have read the Bible, and I've done
[25:48] Speaker 16: a little bit of studying, and according to that which
[25:54] Speaker 16: you're viewing, in my opinion, is Greek mythology and not
[25:58] Speaker 16: actual facts.
[26:00] Speaker 2: What did I spew that was Greek mythology?
[26:03] Speaker 16: Only the Greeks are philosophical. The Bible is not philosophical.
[26:07] Speaker 2: I've said a single thing that was philosophical. Yet I
[26:10] Speaker 2: think you're confused about what philosophical means. Even the animals
[26:14] Speaker 2: come to me, yay, verily come unto thee like a child,
[26:21] Speaker 2: like like a kitten.
[26:24] Speaker 3: The cat knows it's Messiah.
[26:26] Speaker 16: Indeed, Yeah, animals are also considered property.
[26:31] Speaker 4: I don't think that counts.
[26:32] Speaker 14: We have souls.
[26:33] Speaker 2: They don't that blasphemy. Cats have souls. Smile, they have spirits.
[26:42] Speaker 2: You found yourself a one way ticket to Shiol.
[26:48] Speaker 16: Definitely don't want to go there.
[26:51] Speaker 3: There isn't fire.
[26:52] Speaker 4: By the way, there.
[26:55] Speaker 2: Is no fire. There's no fire, and show that is
[26:57] Speaker 2: the case. I gotta grab one thing though.
[26:59] Speaker 12: Hold on, we go.
[27:02] Speaker 2: Now, just for you, just for you, smile. I'm going
[27:11] Speaker 2: to demonstrate to you my divinity. Do you see this water?
[27:20] Speaker 5: Yes?
[27:21] Speaker 2: Do you see this empty glass? I do? Do you
[27:27] Speaker 2: see it becoming wine in front of your very eyes?
[27:34] Speaker 4: Now?
[27:34] Speaker 16: That looks like kool aid powder?
[27:36] Speaker 2: That is in fact wine. It was an empty glass.
[27:39] Speaker 2: I don't know if you know how coolid power works,
[27:41] Speaker 2: but it's it's called chemistry.
[27:44] Speaker 16: That's that's chemistry.
[27:46] Speaker 7: You can make.
[27:48] Speaker 2: Magic. And you have now committed the unforgivable sin, blasphemy
[27:53] Speaker 2: of the Holy Spirit. There is no forgiveness. There will
[27:56] Speaker 2: be no forgiveness for those who blaspheme the Holy Spirit.
[28:01] Speaker 2: Get behind thee, Satan, get behind thee. What a wicked
[28:06] Speaker 2: and perverse generation.
[28:07] Speaker 3: This is chat, absolutely unbelievable. Right in front of your eyes.
[28:13] Speaker 3: You see a miracle and you don't believe, And that
[28:16] Speaker 3: there will be people who are here today who didn't
[28:19] Speaker 3: see it, who will believe that is the case.
[28:22] Speaker 2: And blessed are those who don't see and believe. This
[28:26] Speaker 2: is a generation of scoffers.
[28:30] Speaker 3: Yeah, they won't believe anything without evidence. Absolutely crazy.
[28:35] Speaker 2: Even with the evidence they refuse to accept. Indeed, let's
[28:42] Speaker 2: bring in our next disciple, Jesus Mega Trump twenty twenty eight.
[28:53] Speaker 5: Welcome.
[28:53] Speaker 2: He is Mega Trump twenty twenty eight.
[28:55] Speaker 4: I am over eighteen yus And do you believe?
[28:58] Speaker 2: I believe this is the Messiah?
[29:01] Speaker 10: Yes, I read a prophecy about your apocryphal trip to Mexico?
[29:07] Speaker 5: Is it true?
[29:08] Speaker 10: Fulfilled their prophecy about a donkey writing you into Mexico City.
[29:13] Speaker 2: That is a Burrough story that is not true, and
[29:17] Speaker 2: that is not about me, And I would expect somebody
[29:20] Speaker 2: who has Trump in their name and in their profile
[29:23] Speaker 2: picture to think of something so disgusting. I'm not surprised
[29:28] Speaker 2: at all. I mean, you do worship an orange cheeto.
[29:32] Speaker 10: He's moreward do rido.
[29:34] Speaker 5: But thank you, have a good day.
[29:35] Speaker 2: Bye, cheers. This generation our brew of vipers. They think
[29:46] Speaker 2: of things such as humans and donkeys. Let's get our
[29:53] Speaker 2: next future disciple into the chat. Welcome in guests in
[30:01] Speaker 2: the language I don't know.
[30:03] Speaker 17: Hello, thank you very much for having me up here
[30:07] Speaker 17: are eighteen? Oh yes, I'm very old.
[30:12] Speaker 12: Very good.
[30:13] Speaker 2: And do you believe Jesus is the Messiah?
[30:17] Speaker 17: Sir? I have come to make you offer. We are
[30:19] Speaker 17: forming a new religion called the Freshianity, and we already
[30:23] Speaker 17: have a messiah named Boo el Lciet. But we want
[30:28] Speaker 17: you to be the pope of our new religion. Now
[30:32] Speaker 17: imagine yourself with a golden robe, with a beautiful crown
[30:39] Speaker 17: on your head.
[30:40] Speaker 2: We want you also, I can say, is you know
[30:43] Speaker 2: not what spirit you are of? I am the Messiah,
[30:47] Speaker 2: I'm no pope.
[30:49] Speaker 17: No, we already have a messiah, his name is Boo Elie,
[30:53] Speaker 17: but we want you to be the Pope after he's.
[30:56] Speaker 2: Gone, the Messiah in your religion, No.
[31:02] Speaker 17: He departs.
[31:04] Speaker 2: He departs, Yes, where.
[31:09] Speaker 17: Wherever your imagination takes you.
[31:12] Speaker 2: So he's imagineering. I'm real. I'm not imaginary. I'm a real,
[31:18] Speaker 2: actual human being.
[31:21] Speaker 17: Yes, so is our a profit a prophet. He's also
[31:26] Speaker 17: a real man.
[31:28] Speaker 2: In fact, today in your hearing, I will fulfill Ecclesiastes
[31:32] Speaker 2: eight point fifteen. I command enjoyment, for there is nothing
[31:36] Speaker 2: better under the sun than to eat, drink, and enjoy
[31:38] Speaker 2: yourselves another prophecy fulfilled in your hearing. What more proof
[31:42] Speaker 2: do you need that I am the true Messiah? Not
[31:44] Speaker 2: this boo el shit.
[31:47] Speaker 17: This is rubbish talk. I don't understand a single word
[31:50] Speaker 17: that he just said.
[31:52] Speaker 2: This is unfortunate, that is unfortunately. Yeah, I will cast
[31:56] Speaker 2: you to shield. You're of the Father, your father the devil.
[32:02] Speaker 3: Having ears they do not hear.
[32:04] Speaker 2: Indeed, and eyes they do not see. This was predicted,
[32:08] Speaker 2: this was foretold. Indeed, let us grab a couple more tithes,
[32:14] Speaker 2: my friends, and then we'll get our next disciple in here. Yoda,
[32:17] Speaker 2: Saint Cloud, thank you for the nineteen ninety nine dollars tie.
[32:19] Speaker 2: They said, I hope everyone had a great week. We
[32:21] Speaker 2: hope you had a great Remember if you see someone
[32:24] Speaker 2: stealing food, know the fuck you didn't. Keep up the
[32:27] Speaker 2: good fight and stay rock hard for Doug be a
[32:29] Speaker 2: good human being. I agree, Yeah, if someone is stealing food,
[32:33] Speaker 2: they need that food. In fact, if you read some
[32:35] Speaker 2: of the writings of the Jewish rabbis, they would even
[32:38] Speaker 2: say that a man who steals bread to feed his
[32:41] Speaker 2: family has done no wrong, because the first injustice was
[32:44] Speaker 2: the fact that there was a poor man within Israel.
[32:50] Speaker 2: Jesus probably agreed with that. If I had to guess,
[32:53] Speaker 2: too bad, he's a fake Messiah. Chipmunk says, question, what's
[32:56] Speaker 2: the volume of an engineer's heart? Four over three pi?
[33:03] Speaker 2: Are cute? This is fantastic. Thank you for that. I
[33:07] Speaker 2: appreciate that. I didn't expect engineer jokes today. I expected
[33:10] Speaker 2: Messiah jokes today. And Duke, thank you for the ten
[33:13] Speaker 2: dollar euro Chest says, read the Bible for the first time,
[33:15] Speaker 2: or you read the Bible for the first time. Second.
[33:18] Speaker 2: Samuel thirteenth or fifteen. Abslom was a player. Well, he
[33:22] Speaker 2: was something removed competition trick. David repeatedly won the hearts
[33:26] Speaker 2: of the people, built a base in hebron and led
[33:29] Speaker 2: a bloodless coup. No spoilers. Listen, the story of Absom's
[33:33] Speaker 2: rebellion is one of the best stories in all of
[33:35] Speaker 2: the books of Samuel. It's a work of artists, a masterpiece.
[33:39] Speaker 2: I love it, and crucifix me says, I just experienced conversion.
[33:43] Speaker 2: I met the Messiah. Indeed, we have another disciple entered
[33:47] Speaker 2: into the fold. Listen, friends, my sheep know my voice.
[33:52] Speaker 2: That guy Fox, thank you for the superchest says cheers
[33:55] Speaker 2: to the prophet. Doug, deflator of balloons, bane of two birds,
[33:59] Speaker 2: and the true hero. The best did Goliath, that best
[34:03] Speaker 2: of Goliath. Indeed, that is the case. Doug took down Goliath.
[34:07] Speaker 2: It had nothing to do with this scorny runt named David.
[34:10] Speaker 2: And Duke, thank you for the ten dollar tithes. Since
[34:13] Speaker 2: logic must surrender to the stoniness of Doug rock hard
[34:16] Speaker 2: for Doug, he can both love all his followers equally
[34:19] Speaker 2: and acknowledge that some of them verticals are in fact
[34:24] Speaker 2: not heretics. Duke, I see you. You're to try to
[34:27] Speaker 2: do there that that was not true. We have no
[34:30] Speaker 2: heretics on either stream. And Herbie Shine, good to see you.
[34:34] Speaker 2: My disciple. Thank you for the ten dollar tithe so
[34:36] Speaker 2: that I'm not staying up all night to watch. I'm
[34:38] Speaker 2: not staying up all night to watch. I'm not staying
[34:40] Speaker 2: up all night to watch. I might step all night
[34:41] Speaker 2: to watch. I'm so staying up all night to watch.
[34:44] Speaker 2: That is indeed the case. We will be here convincing
[34:48] Speaker 2: people of the truth of the Messiah and the good
[34:52] Speaker 2: news because the spirit of the Lord is upon me. He
[34:54] Speaker 2: has annoyed me to bring good news to the oppressed.
[34:57] Speaker 2: And Adam Brown, thank you for the twenty dollars tithe.
[34:59] Speaker 2: This is just fin my lunch break. Spent it in
[35:01] Speaker 2: one of the neighborhoods I deliver to taking my daughter
[35:04] Speaker 2: trigger treating for her first Halloween. She was a little
[35:07] Speaker 2: she was a little bat. Oh that's cute. My wife
[35:10] Speaker 2: was principal trunctible. I don't know who that is, and
[35:13] Speaker 2: I was the ups man. Well, I hope you had
[35:16] Speaker 2: a lot of fun. The trigger treating for children are great,
[35:19] Speaker 2: great memorable experiences. I'm glad they're able to take your
[35:23] Speaker 2: daughter out trigger treating. I'm sure she was an adorable
[35:26] Speaker 2: little bat, the cutest little bat of bats.
[35:29] Speaker 3: I think it's the trunchable from Matilda.
[35:33] Speaker 2: Oh that's a reference. Yeah, I haven't watched that since
[35:36] Speaker 2: since it first came out. Interesting. Yeah, yeah, thanks for
[35:40] Speaker 2: the chat, and Jordan, a thank you for the twenty
[35:42] Speaker 2: hours tithes as I wish for this prophet to walk
[35:45] Speaker 2: on Kracken. Praise be Kracken Walker. Indeed, I would walk
[35:49] Speaker 2: on cracking and even play cards with the kraken in
[35:54] Speaker 2: that he submits to my will and he's never won
[35:57] Speaker 2: a hand to poker. Nailed it like the Roman. Thank
[35:59] Speaker 2: you for the twenty dollars tides is. Thus say it,
[36:02] Speaker 2: the Lord we know, who is righteous in his power
[36:04] Speaker 2: in barbecue his kingdom shall stand on the roasted carcasses
[36:08] Speaker 2: of blaspheming followers of Jesus. To heretic praise be to
[36:12] Speaker 2: justin song of Doug and Sharon. Indeed, this is a
[36:15] Speaker 2: righteous hymn of praise, and you shall be rewarded for it.
[36:20] Speaker 2: Let's get Lassie into the discussion now, Hello, welcome in, Lassie.
[36:29] Speaker 18: Yeah, and I'm eighteen and I'm a Christian, so I
[36:33] Speaker 18: guess that's.
[36:35] Speaker 2: And do you believe that Jesus is the Messiah?
[36:39] Speaker 4: Yes?
[36:40] Speaker 18: I do have some nuance there though I wouldn't use
[36:44] Speaker 18: it as like an argument like a lot of people
[36:46] Speaker 18: like do with prophecies. But yeah, I still believe it.
[36:50] Speaker 1: Yes, why why do you?
[36:54] Speaker 2: Why do you fall prey to this lie?
[36:56] Speaker 9: Okay?
[36:57] Speaker 18: I mean so, I I've kind of a problem with
[37:00] Speaker 18: the general criteria that also Christians, except for saying who
[37:03] Speaker 18: the Messiah is, because I would say that there is
[37:07] Speaker 18: there isn't really any messianic prophecy in the Old Testament.
[37:10] Speaker 18: I think they can all be understood in a in
[37:13] Speaker 18: the historical context, like Isaiah eleven, for example, being.
[37:15] Speaker 9: About King Josiah or stuff.
[37:18] Speaker 18: So I would say there's no like real messianic prophecy.
[37:23] Speaker 9: Yeah, there's like Isaiah eleven.
[37:28] Speaker 18: It depends when you think wrote it. But I know
[37:30] Speaker 18: Marvinny argues that's about.
[37:32] Speaker 2: Isaiah eleven was written during the Assyrian period.
[37:37] Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean there's I know that there's some disagreement
[37:39] Speaker 18: about that as well in scholarship.
[37:42] Speaker 2: I mean according to according to the text.
[37:46] Speaker 9: Yeah, according to the text.
[37:48] Speaker 2: I mean obviously none of them are written during the
[37:50] Speaker 2: Assyrian period. Yeah, Like I mean, yeah, evidence the evidence
[37:54] Speaker 2: would point out they were written prior to prior to
[37:57] Speaker 2: that obviously, because they're written in Aramaic Hebrews. Nevertheless, you
[38:02] Speaker 2: know that the Hebrew Bible does tell you what the
[38:05] Speaker 2: Messiah is going to do?
[38:06] Speaker 5: Correct?
[38:07] Speaker 18: Are you referring to like Ezekiel or something specifically, or.
[38:11] Speaker 2: Like Ezekiel does? Okay, Jerllya certainly does.
[38:17] Speaker 18: Yes, I mean I think for all of those like
[38:21] Speaker 18: I would probably have an alternative interpretation. I think there's
[38:26] Speaker 18: a reason that in like that, like Missianic minimalism, that
[38:29] Speaker 18: there's no Messianic prophecy in the Old Testament is the
[38:32] Speaker 18: majority opinion among scholars today, right.
[38:34] Speaker 2: Not the majority opinion among scholars. I don't know where
[38:37] Speaker 2: I got that from as far as I've read, I
[38:41] Speaker 2: don't know what you've read, but it's wrong.
[38:43] Speaker 18: Yeah, okay, Well, I mean I could give you, like
[38:46] Speaker 18: the citation if you want to, you can check it.
[38:48] Speaker 5: But yeah, more than welcome to.
[38:49] Speaker 2: And I'll give you fifteen that disagree with you.
[38:53] Speaker 9: Okay, I can. I'll give you the citation, give me a.
[38:55] Speaker 2: Second, actually check it. Actually the Hebrew Bible in school
[39:01] Speaker 2: and so did I. Have you in all of your
[39:04] Speaker 2: Hebrew Bible studies have you met someone who doesn't think
[39:07] Speaker 2: that the Old Testament doesn't say anything about the Messiam.
[39:13] Speaker 3: No, I mean it might be there might be a
[39:20] Speaker 3: religious position, and you know that's kind of a Messianic
[39:23] Speaker 3: minimal is meant to solve the problem that when we
[39:27] Speaker 3: do have references to the Messiah, they never get fulfilled.
[39:30] Speaker 3: And the context for the fulfillment is pretty immediate. Oh,
[39:34] Speaker 3: I could see something like that coming about.
[39:36] Speaker 9: Not familiar with I mean, yeah.
[39:41] Speaker 2: And just to be just to be sure, Lassie the
[39:44] Speaker 2: break character for five seconds. I did go to Bible
[39:46] Speaker 2: college and seminary. This is a preposterous position.
[39:51] Speaker 18: I mean as far as again, I'm you're more educated
[39:54] Speaker 18: on me and on this, right, So if you say that,
[39:57] Speaker 18: I'm just going to take that. But from what I read,
[40:00] Speaker 18: I'm just telling you what I know, right, But.
[40:04] Speaker 2: You don't know it. You read it. You read something
[40:07] Speaker 2: that somebody said I actually, yeah, Like I went to
[40:10] Speaker 2: school and like studied the scholars, right, right, So there's
[40:16] Speaker 2: no consensus among scholars that there's no Messiah in the
[40:19] Speaker 2: Old Testament.
[40:21] Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, so what you can literally.
[40:23] Speaker 2: Like down on my bookshelf, I've got the Moody Handbook
[40:28] Speaker 2: on Messianic Prophecy, and there's dozens of scholars that participated
[40:33] Speaker 2: in putting that together, all of them think that the
[40:36] Speaker 2: Old Testament is full of nothing but prophecies of Jesus.
[40:39] Speaker 18: Doesn't the Moody Handbook think that Jesus actually fulfilled those
[40:43] Speaker 18: as well?
[40:44] Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why they're Christian.
[40:46] Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, obviously would disagree with those but yeah, okay,
[40:51] Speaker 18: so what I was referring to lastly, are.
[40:53] Speaker 2: You a Christian? Yes, I am, but you don't believe
[40:57] Speaker 2: Jesus is the Messiah?
[40:59] Speaker 9: Well I believe you didn't fulfill any.
[41:00] Speaker 2: Prophecy, Well, then he's not the Messiah. Yeah, I am
[41:05] Speaker 2: the Messiah.
[41:06] Speaker 18: Yeah in that sense, right, I would say there's no
[41:09] Speaker 18: strict criteria, So yeah, you could technically be.
[41:11] Speaker 7: A science Cool.
[41:13] Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad we can finally come to an agreement. Well, okay,
[41:18] Speaker 2: one more believer, friends, one more believer in the books.
[41:22] Speaker 2: We're gonna grab Seeking for Hope next, and then we'll
[41:25] Speaker 2: grab Lily after that. My disciples, thank you so much
[41:28] Speaker 2: for being here. I really appreciate all the tithes and offerings. Randy,
[41:33] Speaker 2: thank you for the tithes of twenty Deconstruction Zone gifted memberships.
[41:37] Speaker 2: I really appreciate that you are building up treasures in
[41:40] Speaker 2: heaven Randy, you're building up your treasures in heaven, not
[41:44] Speaker 2: here on the earth, where we're moth and mold can attack.
[41:47] Speaker 2: And Carlos, thank you for the ten deconstruction zone gifted Tithes.
[41:51] Speaker 2: I appreciate that as well. Your gift in heaven will
[41:54] Speaker 2: be your reward. And Martin, thank you for the twenty
[41:56] Speaker 2: dollars tithes. I can't stop laughing tonight, Justin and hands
[42:00] Speaker 2: down you are the best atheist apologists on the internet.
[42:03] Speaker 2: I've been a follower of Doug for three months and
[42:04] Speaker 2: it completely changed my life. Doug is Lord and Jesus
[42:08] Speaker 2: is his profit. Amen, Amen, Amen, I really appreciate this sediment. Martin,
[42:14] Speaker 2: another firm rock hard disciple, and William Rodgers thank you
[42:19] Speaker 2: for the twenty two to twenty two offering. Says when
[42:23] Speaker 2: a Christian says it was Adam and Eve, not Edam
[42:25] Speaker 2: and Steve, I always respond with, right, it was Lot
[42:28] Speaker 2: in his daughter's not Lot in his sons. That is
[42:31] Speaker 2: the case, actually, And remember, if we want to stick
[42:34] Speaker 2: close to home, we could say, well, first it was
[42:36] Speaker 2: Adam and the animals. He was supposed to bunk the animals,
[42:40] Speaker 2: according to the narrative, before Eve was made, so I
[42:44] Speaker 2: don't know if that makes it worse or better. Probably worse,
[42:47] Speaker 2: I don't know. Let's get Lily into the discussion from
[42:51] Speaker 2: our YouTube cue. Maybe here in just a minute, we'll
[42:54] Speaker 2: have another new disciple of the Messiah. Lily, welcome in.
[43:06] Speaker 15: Hi, can you hear me?
[43:07] Speaker 2: I can hear you. Yes, Lily. Are you at least eighteen?
[43:10] Speaker 2: And do you believe that Jesus is Messiah?
[43:13] Speaker 19: Yes, I'm twenty seven, and I do believe Jesus is
[43:16] Speaker 19: the Messiah.
[43:17] Speaker 15: Why because of my faith?
[43:22] Speaker 2: Why don't you have faith in me?
[43:25] Speaker 19: Because I don't have faith in you, just like I
[43:26] Speaker 19: don't have faith in Santa Claus.
[43:28] Speaker 15: I do believe in like you.
[43:31] Speaker 9: Let me ask you, Santa Claus.
[43:33] Speaker 15: No, I can't.
[43:34] Speaker 2: Can you see?
[43:35] Speaker 19: I know that because Santa Claus is me and you
[43:39] Speaker 19: could talk about him. You know that kids, for an example,
[43:42] Speaker 19: believe in him based off their imagination. So humans have
[43:45] Speaker 19: the ability to believe things that are not true or
[43:49] Speaker 19: you can't be true. So that's why I believe in Jesus.
[43:52] Speaker 15: No, I can't, but I.
[43:53] Speaker 2: Believe in And you can't see Santa Claus, and you
[43:56] Speaker 2: can't see Jesus right right? But you can see me. Absolutely, yes,
[44:02] Speaker 2: So why do you have faith in I agree? Yes,
[44:05] Speaker 2: she said, we've heard it here, Lily, Just Lily just
[44:07] Speaker 2: told the whole world I am real. Can you demonstrate
[44:12] Speaker 2: that Jesus is real? Because you can. That's why.
[44:14] Speaker 19: That's why I have faith in him. Do you know
[44:16] Speaker 19: the definition of faith?
[44:17] Speaker 2: Okay, so there's another that's another admission. She cannot faith.
[44:22] Speaker 2: You certainly cannot prove that Jesus is real, but she
[44:25] Speaker 2: can prove that I am real. You heard it here.
[44:29] Speaker 2: Even these scoffers, even the naysayers, have to admit that
[44:33] Speaker 2: I am, in fact real.
[44:36] Speaker 19: Yes, absolutely, you are real. You are in reality, you
[44:40] Speaker 19: are in this reality. But do you know the definition
[44:43] Speaker 19: of faith?
[44:45] Speaker 2: Yeah? Faith is what gullible people people do? So are
[44:48] Speaker 2: you gullible?
[44:50] Speaker 19: The definition of gullible is different than the definition of faith.
[44:53] Speaker 15: Now there are some people, I say.
[44:55] Speaker 2: The definition of gullible Lily, I said, I said, that's
[44:58] Speaker 2: what gullible.
[44:58] Speaker 15: Is because just people.
[45:04] Speaker 2: Without evidence. Do you believe in the tooth fairy?
[45:07] Speaker 7: Lily?
[45:08] Speaker 19: No, I don't, why because it's it's not true.
[45:12] Speaker 2: Why how do you know? Why don't you just have
[45:14] Speaker 2: faith in the tooth fairy?
[45:16] Speaker 15: Because it's ridiculous to think.
[45:18] Speaker 2: What's ridiculous about it?
[45:21] Speaker 15: Because fairies are mythical.
[45:25] Speaker 2: Prove it?
[45:26] Speaker 19: Well, if you say that you have faith in the
[45:28] Speaker 19: tooth fairy, I can't disprove you.
[45:30] Speaker 2: My faith in the tooth theory as valid as your
[45:33] Speaker 2: faith in Jesus.
[45:34] Speaker 15: Yes it is.
[45:35] Speaker 2: You've heard it here from another admission from the Christians.
[45:38] Speaker 2: My faith in the tooth fairy, who is a coworker
[45:41] Speaker 2: of mine, is equally as valid as having faith in Jesus.
[45:45] Speaker 2: In fact, friends, uh, how many people has the tooth
[45:49] Speaker 2: fairy ever lit on fire?
[45:53] Speaker 15: No one?
[45:53] Speaker 2: But you see how many people will Jesus light on fire?
[45:57] Speaker 2: According to his own word?
[46:01] Speaker 19: Well, you see, when it comes to believing in Jesus,
[46:09] Speaker 19: you know to look at Jesus on a factual level.
[46:14] Speaker 2: It, Lily, do you think this answers my question?
[46:18] Speaker 15: Okay, the story of Jesus, He's.
[46:21] Speaker 2: Not perfect, Lily, did you hear my question?
[46:24] Speaker 4: I'm perfect?
[46:25] Speaker 15: The Bible never said that he was perfect?
[46:28] Speaker 4: Lily?
[46:28] Speaker 2: Did you hear my question? Do I need to ask
[46:30] Speaker 2: it again? Chet was right when he said about this
[46:33] Speaker 2: generation hearing, they do not hear, seeing, they do not see.
[46:37] Speaker 2: So again, how many people has a tooth. Three Ever,
[46:41] Speaker 2: let on fire? Is it zero?
[46:43] Speaker 15: Zero?
[46:44] Speaker 2: And how many people are Jesus? Is Jesus gonna light
[46:46] Speaker 2: on fire?
[46:49] Speaker 15: Depending on how many sinners there?
[46:51] Speaker 2: It's a lot, isn't it. Do you think that human
[46:55] Speaker 2: beings should be let on fire? No, then you just
[47:00] Speaker 2: with Messiah.
[47:01] Speaker 15: He will forgive them if they have the faith and
[47:03] Speaker 15: let him.
[47:04] Speaker 2: So you disagree with your Messiah. I don't think, and
[47:06] Speaker 2: I don't think anyone should be lit on fire. It's
[47:08] Speaker 2: not even in the Hebrew Bible. Jesus lied, he made
[47:10] Speaker 2: it up.
[47:12] Speaker 19: So that's why do you always when it comes to
[47:15] Speaker 19: going through the Bible as a Christian, I believe the
[47:19] Speaker 19: Hebrew Bible, even though I know the New Testament comes
[47:22] Speaker 19: from the Old Testament. The Hebrew Bible is a whole
[47:24] Speaker 19: different religion because Jewish people don't even think that Jesus
[47:29] Speaker 19: is the Messiah because Old Testament.
[47:32] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a whole different religion because Jesus is a
[47:35] Speaker 2: liar in the fraud.
[47:36] Speaker 15: Exactly. But my faith is the reason why.
[47:38] Speaker 2: The admission we got the admission. She said, exactly, Jesus
[47:42] Speaker 2: is a liar in fraud. We've converted another one. Welcome
[47:46] Speaker 2: to the Kingdom.
[47:47] Speaker 15: Lies is a liar and a fraud.
[47:49] Speaker 2: You just admitted that he was. You said it.
[47:51] Speaker 15: I said, I have faith in Jesus.
[47:52] Speaker 19: Now your characterization is your You're wavering like a sail
[47:59] Speaker 19: in the wind.
[47:59] Speaker 2: You like you're a rudderless boat.
[48:07] Speaker 15: Okay, you got me. I'm converted. Another one to be honest,
[48:13] Speaker 15: I'm an agnostic.
[48:14] Speaker 19: I watch you all the time. I love you, and
[48:16] Speaker 19: I just wanted to see if I can debate with
[48:18] Speaker 19: you and pretend like I'm a Christian.
[48:19] Speaker 15: But I can't.
[48:20] Speaker 12: I'm sorry.
[48:21] Speaker 2: Be well, my friend, be well.
[48:23] Speaker 15: Yes, you too. Thank you. I'm gonna watch the rest
[48:25] Speaker 15: of the show.
[48:26] Speaker 2: Now, another blessed disciple.
[48:30] Speaker 3: Holly Lou Doug. I mean, we'll take conversions even if
[48:33] Speaker 3: they're completely fake.
[48:35] Speaker 2: Indeed, indeed, praises be, praises be. We do have some
[48:40] Speaker 2: more people waiting to get into the queue. Let me
[48:43] Speaker 2: grab just a couple times and offerings, friends, and we'll
[48:46] Speaker 2: get our next guests in here. So cool. Thank you
[48:49] Speaker 2: for the five dollar times says diabolical. Indeed, Jesus, that
[48:54] Speaker 2: false prophet was diabolical, but I'm not. I'm the Messiah. Help.
[49:00] Speaker 2: Mega dig instructure is ready for some smores cookout with
[49:02] Speaker 2: Doug and Charin tonight, Dalton. I love how you deal
[49:04] Speaker 2: with philbros On your lives. Actually, he does a really
[49:07] Speaker 2: good job with them. I agree and help you up
[49:09] Speaker 2: here in a second cascade says Whoa, whoa, whoa. I
[49:12] Speaker 2: don't think the Messiah would be wearing mixed fabrics and
[49:16] Speaker 2: collared shirts. I suppose the Messiah of Doug wouldn't be
[49:19] Speaker 2: so limited. I don't know if you know this. This
[49:21] Speaker 2: is one hundred percent cotton, both the top and the bottom.
[49:25] Speaker 2: You're allowed to wear multiple colors. That's not against the
[49:28] Speaker 2: Hebrew Bible, my friend. And with that space, Lord, thank
[49:35] Speaker 2: you for the five dollar time I pray to Doug.
[49:38] Speaker 2: I pray that Doug helps me with my crippling, my
[49:41] Speaker 2: addiction to Foe. I don't know if you know this.
[49:45] Speaker 2: You don't have to get rid of your addiction to Foe.
[49:48] Speaker 2: I mean, it's amazing. I keep getting Fae delivery justin
[49:51] Speaker 2: Please intercede for me. I will not. It's good for you.
[49:55] Speaker 2: These are the blessings that the Lord is showering down
[49:58] Speaker 2: upon you from Doug. It's just as good as the
[50:02] Speaker 2: stone soup that Doug approves of and we'll grab one
[50:05] Speaker 2: more tie than offering from our friend Derek Connor. Derek,
[50:08] Speaker 2: thank you so much for the tie. The fifty d
[50:11] Speaker 2: Z debate memberships. That is gigantic, it's preposterous, it is huge,
[50:17] Speaker 2: it's outlandish. Much appreciated, Derek. And with that, we're going
[50:21] Speaker 2: to bring in I think the Bible guy's getting loaded,
[50:24] Speaker 2: and we're going to bring in our next guest from
[50:27] Speaker 2: the YouTube que Maybe it looks like Nicholas if I
[50:32] Speaker 2: can read the text from here, Welcome in Dalton. Hello, Hello,
[50:44] Speaker 2: we now have Dalton another disciples with us and also Nicholas. Nicholas,
[50:50] Speaker 2: welcome in. Are you at least eighteen? And do you
[50:52] Speaker 2: believe that Jesus is a Messiah?
[50:57] Speaker 4: Yes?
[50:57] Speaker 12: I do believe this is Messiah. We all adovet. And
[51:00] Speaker 12: why o kay, okay, why do I believe?
[51:08] Speaker 2: Why do you this is the son of the Why
[51:12] Speaker 2: do you believe that Jesus, the liar and the fraud
[51:16] Speaker 2: is the Messiah?
[51:20] Speaker 20: No, this isndred percent legit, limitedly real. There's no not
[51:25] Speaker 20: even not every like there is evidence more than twenty
[51:29] Speaker 20: like the ghostpers are historical. I wouldn't have testimonies that
[51:33] Speaker 20: confirmatch existence. He was the real He did made a cluse,
[51:37] Speaker 20: she was gone.
[51:38] Speaker 12: He did me.
[51:39] Speaker 20: Yeah, he was crucified. He rose from the death three
[51:42] Speaker 20: days later. He filter hand their prophecies and so on.
[51:46] Speaker 5: Prove it, yeah, okay.
[51:50] Speaker 3: What the.
[51:52] Speaker 2: You can't prove it either? These are lies. These are
[51:55] Speaker 2: from the pit of hell. These are from listen to hell.
[52:00] Speaker 2: You're you're you're doing, Satan, Get behind me, Satan, Nicholas,
[52:05] Speaker 2: get behind me.
[52:07] Speaker 12: I'm going.
[52:10] Speaker 2: The Lord is now breaking up, breaking up your your
[52:13] Speaker 2: actual reception.
[52:14] Speaker 12: Now, can you give me a minute please.
[52:23] Speaker 3: I don't know why we know this evidence for a messiah.
[52:26] Speaker 3: There's a messiah right in front of you looking at him. Indeed,
[52:31] Speaker 3: you have the Messiah Jesus, Nicholas, can you see me
[52:37] Speaker 3: with your own two eyes?
[52:41] Speaker 20: I do have a picture of this is my phone
[52:43] Speaker 20: when he was literally taken from a camera that was
[52:48] Speaker 20: that's his real face.
[52:52] Speaker 2: No one can see your image because it's fake. It's
[52:54] Speaker 2: from the devil. I'm right in front of you.
[52:57] Speaker 20: Listen to me, and listen to me. Okay, over a
[53:01] Speaker 20: decade ago. I'm from Greece, elash, I'm an Orthodox Christian.
[53:05] Speaker 20: I might not have a lot of notice about the
[53:06] Speaker 20: Babel or whatever or not. Remember in Versus have written
[53:10] Speaker 20: the New Testament, have finished the ghostbels, all of them,
[53:13] Speaker 20: and I know what the have now.
[53:14] Speaker 5: Listen to me.
[53:15] Speaker 20: Okay, over a decade ago and Mane sal Nikki went
[53:20] Speaker 20: to jerusal or to Jesus Tom. He took a picture
[53:23] Speaker 20: of Ago with another camera. Over over ten years stors, Okay,
[53:28] Speaker 20: listen to me.
[53:29] Speaker 2: I'm not listening to you because now you're talking about
[53:32] Speaker 2: taking pictures of dinglings and that's not appropriate for this live.
[53:37] Speaker 12: Story.
[53:38] Speaker 2: Listen, I expect this list Can I tell you this.
[53:42] Speaker 2: I'm not the only one that heard him say it.
[53:44] Speaker 2: He said he took a picture of a dingling? Did
[53:46] Speaker 2: anyone else hear it? Wicked? Wicked, generation adulterous? Who is
[53:52] Speaker 2: the battle?
[53:52] Speaker 13: By the way, I got an interesting parcel in the
[53:56] Speaker 13: male today, just waiting to you.
[54:00] Speaker 1: Guys.
[54:00] Speaker 13: See what justin sent me the mail. It is amazing.
[54:05] Speaker 2: Got you hooked up, buddy, and I'm we have two
[54:09] Speaker 2: new disciples that have come to join us that want
[54:15] Speaker 2: the type feverishly won't really want the type. I'm trying
[54:18] Speaker 2: to prevent it. Let's get our next guess in here.
[54:21] Speaker 2: It's gonna be maybe Tito. Maybe Tito. Tito, welcome in.
[54:30] Speaker 2: Are you connected? Because it looks like you might not
[54:32] Speaker 2: fully be connected. Tito is not connected, Tito, you need
[54:41] Speaker 2: better hardware. We're going to get Sam I Am into
[54:46] Speaker 2: the discussion now, Sam, welcome in. Are you at least eighteen?
[54:51] Speaker 2: And do you believe that Jesus was the Messiah?
[54:58] Speaker 5: Sam?
[55:01] Speaker 2: Sam Samuel, Samuel, Ola Comas da Al Peter Zan Nothing.
[55:16] Speaker 5: Okay.
[55:17] Speaker 13: I think this is the same Sam I Am that
[55:21] Speaker 13: was obsessed with me because I said one day that
[55:25] Speaker 13: I was a stalker at a store and they have
[55:28] Speaker 13: been obsessing over that fact for the past week.
[55:31] Speaker 2: Sounds about right. Well, the good news, Sam is not am.
[55:35] Speaker 2: He is not I am. I am Messiah. Come all,
[55:39] Speaker 2: ye who thirst for I will give you Kraken. Let's
[55:45] Speaker 2: try Tito again, Tito. I think you actually, I think
[55:50] Speaker 2: you actually connected this time. Hold on, I got to
[55:54] Speaker 2: turn to echo cancelation.
[55:55] Speaker 7: On.
[55:55] Speaker 2: There we go, Tito, are you at least eighteen? And
[55:58] Speaker 2: do you believe that Jesus lived in Messiah?
[56:01] Speaker 5: Yes?
[56:02] Speaker 2: Indeed? And why do you believe that Jesus is a Messiah?
[56:08] Speaker 5: Do you want me to use uh secular arguments or
[56:11] Speaker 5: just Christian arguments.
[56:13] Speaker 2: Either, whatever you think is going to help. So all
[56:17] Speaker 2: of your arguments because I'm the true Messiah.
[56:21] Speaker 5: Well, there's no prophecy the but your birth.
[56:26] Speaker 2: Why does it need a new one?
[56:27] Speaker 5: Well, stage needs to be set for your prophecy to
[56:30] Speaker 5: take place.
[56:32] Speaker 2: According to according to to what does my birthplace need
[56:36] Speaker 2: to be prophesied?
[56:40] Speaker 21: According to what does your birth plate needs to be prophesized? Well,
[56:43] Speaker 21: that's that's who.
[56:43] Speaker 2: Set that precedence.
[56:47] Speaker 21: I don't think it matters. And I mean, if you
[56:50] Speaker 21: want to debate the meaning of a messiah, is that
[56:52] Speaker 21: is that what you're trying to do.
[56:53] Speaker 2: I agree it doesn't matter. But as as it turns out,
[56:57] Speaker 2: I did fulfill the prophecy of being a netsayer from
[57:01] Speaker 2: Isaiah eleven. I'm from Nazareth, Ohio, right.
[57:07] Speaker 5: But it's more about fulfilling prophecies.
[57:09] Speaker 2: So I have fulfilled prophecies more than Jesus.
[57:11] Speaker 5: In fact, have you which ones? Have you fulfilled?
[57:16] Speaker 2: A bunch? Have you read Isaiah fifty six twelve? I
[57:20] Speaker 2: have what's it saying?
[57:22] Speaker 21: Well, I don't have a memorized but if you have
[57:24] Speaker 21: the verse, you can put it up and tell me
[57:26] Speaker 21: it has come.
[57:27] Speaker 2: They say, let us get wine. Let us fill ourselves
[57:29] Speaker 2: with strong drink. That's cracking. The strong drink is actually
[57:33] Speaker 2: in the Bible and Isaiah's sixty one to one. The
[57:36] Speaker 2: spirit of the Lord God is upon me because he
[57:38] Speaker 2: is annoyed to me. He has sent me good news
[57:40] Speaker 2: to depress, to bind the broken heart, and and proclaim
[57:42] Speaker 2: liberty to the captives. I have fulfilled that prophecy. In fact,
[57:45] Speaker 2: I'm fulfilling it today in your hearing.
[57:49] Speaker 5: Right.
[57:50] Speaker 21: So I wouldn't say that just because you've fulfilled a
[57:53] Speaker 21: single prophecy, that doesn't mean that you are the Messiah.
[57:56] Speaker 5: Just because you fulfill a single prophecy.
[57:59] Speaker 2: The number of prophets, those were two prophecies actually.
[58:03] Speaker 13: So I actually live in the middle of a wilderness area,
[58:08] Speaker 13: and almost every other day I have been proclaiming the
[58:12] Speaker 13: way for Justin's show. I tell people all the time
[58:14] Speaker 13: to go check out the deconstruction zone. So like that's
[58:17] Speaker 13: the voice calling out in the wilderness, preparing the way for.
[58:19] Speaker 5: ESA's cutting promo. I don't think.
[58:22] Speaker 2: Dolphin is the voice crying out into wilderness preparing ye
[58:26] Speaker 2: the way of the Lord, make straight his paths, and
[58:30] Speaker 2: if you will accept it, Chet is the Elijah.
[58:33] Speaker 21: So here, here's what I would say. Here's what I
[58:35] Speaker 21: would argue for you. There's proof of eyewitnesses.
[58:40] Speaker 5: I have seen them.
[58:42] Speaker 2: You're seeing me right now, Dalton, you're looking at me.
[58:46] Speaker 2: Chat you're looking at me. Tito, you're looking at me.
[58:49] Speaker 2: How many people saw me turn water into wine forty
[58:52] Speaker 2: five minutes ago?
[58:53] Speaker 5: But you know that logic fails, wicked.
[58:55] Speaker 2: Wicked and prose generation, blastpheming, the work of the.
[58:59] Speaker 5: Holy That logic fails.
[59:02] Speaker 21: If you're saying that we cannot believe that because we
[59:04] Speaker 21: haven't seen it, then the entire historical enterprise fails. Because
[59:08] Speaker 21: we haven't seen Alexander cross the Rubicon.
[59:11] Speaker 5: We haven't seen any of the Socrates. We haven't seen it.
[59:14] Speaker 5: But what I'm saying is that.
[59:16] Speaker 2: You said that.
[59:18] Speaker 5: You don't believe that.
[59:21] Speaker 2: Now you're debating your your own talking points. I never
[59:23] Speaker 2: once said that what he is concussed, he's he's he's
[59:28] Speaker 2: so concussed because he's been smacked over the head with
[59:31] Speaker 2: the glory of the Messiah. The radiance of the Messiah
[59:36] Speaker 2: has concussed you. Photons, emotion do have met.
[59:41] Speaker 7: No.
[59:42] Speaker 21: What I'm what I'm explaining to you is that history
[59:45] Speaker 21: is not just proved, is proven by eyewitness accounts.
[59:48] Speaker 5: What we're taking historical events, right, So I agree.
[59:52] Speaker 2: I don't know why you're arguing this point. I never
[59:54] Speaker 2: once disagreed with you. Okay, So then that is that
[59:58] Speaker 2: I am the Messiah based on the witness of what
[1:00:02] Speaker 2: you're experiencing right now. In fact, I'm a I'm a
[1:00:05] Speaker 2: descendant of King David.
[1:00:07] Speaker 5: That's a self proclaimant. You're just proclaiming that on your own.
[1:00:12] Speaker 1: And I also proclaimed it about justin.
[1:00:15] Speaker 5: Indeed, if listen, you need titles miracles and works?
[1:00:21] Speaker 2: Why wicked, a wicked and a perverse generation asked for
[1:00:25] Speaker 2: a sign? Where in the Hebrew Bible does it say
[1:00:28] Speaker 2: that the Messiah is going to do miracles?
[1:00:32] Speaker 5: Jesus brought miracles and works.
[1:00:34] Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. Where does the Hebrew Bible? Where does
[1:00:37] Speaker 2: the Hebrew Bible listen, anyone can do magic tricks? Where
[1:00:41] Speaker 2: does the Hebrew Bible saying that is going to do?
[1:00:46] Speaker 2: He didn't, He was never dead, and Tito, were you
[1:00:52] Speaker 2: there to prove that he was.
[1:00:55] Speaker 5: I'm taking it off faith, I'm reading it right.
[1:00:58] Speaker 2: Yeah, you're taking somebody else's word. You got it. You're
[1:01:02] Speaker 2: taking somebody else's word. You don't know if this man
[1:01:04] Speaker 2: was actually dead, how do you know?
[1:01:10] Speaker 5: Taking it?
[1:01:10] Speaker 2: Okay, then then Eristius rose from the dead too, I don't.
[1:01:16] Speaker 5: I don't know who that is.
[1:01:17] Speaker 2: I know you don't because you haven't read actually any history.
[1:01:20] Speaker 2: Aristius was claimed to risen from the dead. He was
[1:01:22] Speaker 2: written about by Herodotus, Planty the Elder, Apollonius, Theodorus, Plutarch,
[1:01:27] Speaker 2: and even Origin.
[1:01:32] Speaker 7: Who.
[1:01:34] Speaker 2: On his own to the wicked vipers of this perverse generation.
[1:01:39] Speaker 2: They see, but they don't see. They have ears, but
[1:01:42] Speaker 2: they don't hear.
[1:01:43] Speaker 5: Hold on, hold on, hold on.
[1:01:47] Speaker 21: If a person heals the blind, there's witnesses. I said
[1:01:50] Speaker 21: that he did heal the.
[1:01:51] Speaker 2: Blind Vestasian, Yes, that Tito, Emperor Vespasian, healed a blind
[1:01:59] Speaker 2: man by spinning in his eyes.
[1:02:00] Speaker 17: You know that.
[1:02:01] Speaker 5: Did he walk on the face of the water?
[1:02:03] Speaker 2: Is that relevant?
[1:02:04] Speaker 5: Did he rise from the dead?
[1:02:06] Speaker 2: We'll try this again.
[1:02:07] Speaker 12: You could do one.
[1:02:08] Speaker 2: Nero and Aristius both did.
[1:02:11] Speaker 5: Nero claimed, Nero claimed he did.
[1:02:13] Speaker 7: No, he didn't.
[1:02:15] Speaker 5: You think he did? You believe he didn't. I know
[1:02:17] Speaker 5: which other man in history do you believe rose from
[1:02:20] Speaker 5: the dead.
[1:02:20] Speaker 2: I know he did. The Parthians. The Parthians went to
[1:02:23] Speaker 2: almost went to war over it. Romulus, so did mel
[1:02:31] Speaker 2: cart So did Aristius. Do you believe so did Alcestis.
[1:02:38] Speaker 2: People rising from the.
[1:02:39] Speaker 5: Dead you're looking at No, I have a list, Oh
[1:02:46] Speaker 5: you don't. You have a little Google sheet out there
[1:02:47] Speaker 5: about people rose.
[1:02:48] Speaker 7: From the dead.
[1:02:49] Speaker 13: You know that Romulus, you know, was the founder of Rome.
[1:02:53] Speaker 13: And according to the to the to the testimony about
[1:02:57] Speaker 13: Romulus from Plutarch, Romulus actually committed fratricide and killed his brother.
[1:03:02] Speaker 13: That's an embarrassing fact. And they wouldn't have written something
[1:03:04] Speaker 13: embarrassing unless it was true. And then he was murdered
[1:03:09] Speaker 13: by conspiracy of the Senate of Rome. And then later
[1:03:14] Speaker 13: after his murder, he appeared to two of his disciples
[1:03:16] Speaker 13: on the road to Rome and then ascend into into
[1:03:19] Speaker 13: the heavens.
[1:03:20] Speaker 5: Two five hundred is two and five hundred the same,
[1:03:23] Speaker 5: and that more than that.
[1:03:25] Speaker 2: It turns out the word two and the word five
[1:03:28] Speaker 2: hundred are not the same. But as it turned out,
[1:03:30] Speaker 2: we don't have any testimony from the five hundred witnesses
[1:03:34] Speaker 2: that you're referring to. Did any of those five hundred
[1:03:36] Speaker 2: write anything?
[1:03:38] Speaker 5: So I'll give you. I'll give you this, give you
[1:03:40] Speaker 5: claim and let me know what you.
[1:03:41] Speaker 2: Did any of those five hundred write anything? Tito?
[1:03:44] Speaker 5: Let me let me lay up the argument.
[1:03:46] Speaker 2: Did any of the five hundred write anything?
[1:03:47] Speaker 7: Tito?
[1:03:48] Speaker 5: If the apostles will win?
[1:03:50] Speaker 2: And now you're muted, So Tito, you're not going to
[1:03:53] Speaker 2: ramble on and pivot from one topic to the other.
[1:03:56] Speaker 2: The minute I ask you a question about your claim,
[1:03:58] Speaker 2: you're going to answer it all right. Time to stop
[1:04:00] Speaker 2: being a child, or I'll cast you into Gehenna. Don't
[1:04:03] Speaker 2: be afraid of the one who can who can kill
[1:04:06] Speaker 2: the body. Be afraid of the one who can kill
[1:04:08] Speaker 2: the body and the soul in the fires of hell.
[1:04:10] Speaker 2: So we're gonna try this again. Did you hear my question?
[1:04:13] Speaker 7: No?
[1:04:13] Speaker 5: Repeat it.
[1:04:14] Speaker 2: Did any of those five hundred witnesses leave a testimony?
[1:04:19] Speaker 5: They passed down a oral tradition. That's how it's understood.
[1:04:22] Speaker 2: Name one of them.
[1:04:24] Speaker 5: I'll have to look. I don't have the names off
[1:04:26] Speaker 5: the top of my head.
[1:04:27] Speaker 2: Okay, so there's none of them are named. Not a
[1:04:31] Speaker 2: single one of them is named. You're referring to First Corinthians,
[1:04:34] Speaker 2: chapter fifteen, and not a single one of those five
[1:04:36] Speaker 2: hundred are named. This is what happens when you don't
[1:04:40] Speaker 2: even read your own false religious book.
[1:04:42] Speaker 5: So if they're not, if they had, if you had.
[1:04:45] Speaker 2: Read the Hebrew Bible, you would understand that Jesus wasn't
[1:04:49] Speaker 2: the actual Messiah because the Messiah has to actually be,
[1:04:53] Speaker 2: has to actually be a king. Was Jesus ever a king?
[1:04:56] Speaker 5: Yeah, he was a king. Jesus has gone.
[1:04:59] Speaker 2: But show me when he was a king. Show me
[1:05:01] Speaker 2: when he was a king. Show me when it's a king.
[1:05:03] Speaker 2: Show me Jesus is Tito, You're you're insane. If you
[1:05:07] Speaker 2: think I'm gonna let you pivot, We'll try this again.
[1:05:10] Speaker 2: I won't let you pivot. Show me where Jesus was
[1:05:14] Speaker 2: ever a king in Israel.
[1:05:18] Speaker 5: You're now you're pivoting because you're show me answer it again.
[1:05:22] Speaker 2: I'm all, I'm asking you a question about the things
[1:05:24] Speaker 2: that you were saying, and you don't want to follow up.
[1:05:26] Speaker 2: When was Jesus a king?
[1:05:28] Speaker 5: I'm going to answer the first question that can I get.
[1:05:30] Speaker 7: To the king part?
[1:05:31] Speaker 2: No, you can get to the king now.
[1:05:33] Speaker 5: I want to Oh so you want you want to
[1:05:35] Speaker 5: ask you question? Woman to answer how you want me.
[1:05:37] Speaker 2: That's how this works. That's how this works, Tito. When
[1:05:40] Speaker 2: I ask a question, I get answers to it. When
[1:05:44] Speaker 2: was Jesus ever a king?
[1:05:49] Speaker 21: Jesus was raised to the right hand of the Father.
[1:05:52] Speaker 21: That's how Jesus was king.
[1:05:54] Speaker 5: He was raised king.
[1:05:55] Speaker 2: The prophecy is from the Hebrew Bible says he'll be
[1:05:57] Speaker 2: a king in Israel.
[1:05:59] Speaker 5: Jesus was raised so the right hand of the Father.
[1:06:01] Speaker 2: False, that's what That's what gullible people believe. I asked you,
[1:06:05] Speaker 2: when was he a king in Israel?
[1:06:08] Speaker 5: Jesus was raised to.
[1:06:09] Speaker 2: Actually, I'm I'm the king at the right hand of
[1:06:12] Speaker 2: the Father right now. Prove me wrong.
[1:06:15] Speaker 5: You are you an atheist?
[1:06:16] Speaker 2: No man has a no I'm the Messiah. No man
[1:06:20] Speaker 2: has ascended into heaven except for except for me.
[1:06:23] Speaker 5: You're violent.
[1:06:25] Speaker 2: Tito is about to crash out really hard because he
[1:06:27] Speaker 2: knows he can't defend his Messiah. Claims Tito, I'm at
[1:06:31] Speaker 2: the right hand of the Father right now. I descended
[1:06:33] Speaker 2: from the right hand of the Father. I left my
[1:06:36] Speaker 2: throne to come here to bring good news of a
[1:06:38] Speaker 2: phil Isaiah sixty one to one in your hearing. Prove
[1:06:43] Speaker 2: that I'm not the king.
[1:06:45] Speaker 5: If you have to prove to me that you're claiming
[1:06:47] Speaker 5: I don't.
[1:06:49] Speaker 2: You have to prove not to prove anything wicked in
[1:06:52] Speaker 2: the perverse generation. As for a sign, you won't get
[1:06:54] Speaker 2: a sign because you're part of the wicked and the
[1:06:56] Speaker 2: perverse generation.
[1:06:58] Speaker 5: For extraordinary claims, you need proof.
[1:07:03] Speaker 2: You just that Jesus. Jesus didn't even Jesus didn't even
[1:07:07] Speaker 2: agree that. Jesus says that you will get no sign.
[1:07:10] Speaker 2: When they asked for proof, he gave them nothing. He
[1:07:13] Speaker 2: said you won't get a sign. In fact, he says,
[1:07:15] Speaker 2: blessed of those who believe and have not seen. You
[1:07:19] Speaker 2: need to come with childlike faith.
[1:07:21] Speaker 5: Tito, beloved. If he walks on the face.
[1:07:26] Speaker 2: I am the beloved. He prove that he did, prove
[1:07:29] Speaker 2: that he did.
[1:07:31] Speaker 5: Prove that he didn't. You just believed that he didn't.
[1:07:33] Speaker 2: Because you then proved that I didn't walk on water.
[1:07:36] Speaker 2: I've walked on water. Prove that I didn't. You know,
[1:07:39] Speaker 2: prove that I didn't walk on water.
[1:07:41] Speaker 5: I need to see you walking on water. I need
[1:07:43] Speaker 5: to see you.
[1:07:44] Speaker 4: You didn't see.
[1:07:46] Speaker 2: You never saw Jesus ride from the dead.
[1:07:49] Speaker 5: I have faith that Jesus.
[1:07:52] Speaker 2: I walked on water, and I have witnesses and witnessed it.
[1:07:56] Speaker 1: I witnessed it, and I have faith in justin.
[1:08:00] Speaker 5: He witnessed him doing it.
[1:08:02] Speaker 13: Oh yeah, he actually he didn't even walk, he ran.
[1:08:05] Speaker 13: He actually was a lot faster than Jesus.
[1:08:08] Speaker 5: Well did he do it? I mean, I want to
[1:08:10] Speaker 5: see him do it right now? Can you do it
[1:08:12] Speaker 5: right now?
[1:08:17] Speaker 2: When whenever Jesus was asked for a sign, he didn't
[1:08:20] Speaker 2: get it. Why would you think I was going to
[1:08:21] Speaker 2: give you a sign?
[1:08:24] Speaker 5: There's a reason. There's a reason that Jesus did not
[1:08:26] Speaker 5: do a sign when immediately asked.
[1:08:28] Speaker 2: For I think because their hearts were hard, and so
[1:08:31] Speaker 2: is yours. If you wouldn't believe Moses and the prophets,
[1:08:33] Speaker 2: he certainly won't believe a sign.
[1:08:35] Speaker 21: Well Moses, Well, wasn't it Moses that said if they don't,
[1:08:38] Speaker 21: if they didn't, if they didn't believe the words of Moses,
[1:08:40] Speaker 21: they want to believe a man who even rolls from
[1:08:42] Speaker 21: the dead.
[1:08:42] Speaker 5: I believe that.
[1:08:43] Speaker 2: That's what Jesus said. That's not what Moses said. And
[1:08:46] Speaker 2: Jesus was a liar in her fraud? How was he
[1:08:49] Speaker 2: a liar because he claimed to be the Messiah and
[1:08:52] Speaker 2: he wasn't. He also said things about the Hebrew Bible
[1:08:55] Speaker 2: that were strictly false, like that was.
[1:08:58] Speaker 5: Only false, did the Pharisees.
[1:09:00] Speaker 2: But my question is, well he lost. Then if he
[1:09:03] Speaker 2: debated the Pharisees, they kicked him in the teeth because
[1:09:06] Speaker 2: he says that no man has descended into heaven except
[1:09:09] Speaker 2: for the one who descended from heaven, being the son
[1:09:11] Speaker 2: of a man. But that was a lie because people
[1:09:13] Speaker 2: did ascend into heaven prior to Jesus, didn't they?
[1:09:17] Speaker 5: Okay? So that a real quick Let me, did.
[1:09:21] Speaker 2: Jesus get it right when he says no man has
[1:09:22] Speaker 2: ascended into heaven?
[1:09:25] Speaker 21: I believe Enoch was an Enoch, lift it into heaven?
[1:09:28] Speaker 21: Boses bodies that listen. He debated the Pharisees.
[1:09:34] Speaker 5: He had for you.
[1:09:37] Speaker 2: You almost answered it was Jesus correct when he says
[1:09:41] Speaker 2: that no one has ascended into heaven except for himself. Yes, wrong,
[1:09:49] Speaker 2: you said it yourself. Enoch and Elijah both ascended into heaven.
[1:09:55] Speaker 5: Chariot of fire.
[1:09:55] Speaker 2: Yes, okay, So then Jesus was wrong.
[1:09:57] Speaker 12: He lied.
[1:09:58] Speaker 2: He's a lying liar. But this this should be expected
[1:10:01] Speaker 2: because the only prophecy that Jesus ever fulfilled in fact
[1:10:05] Speaker 2: was Deuteronomy thirteen. Do you want to hear this prophecy?
[1:10:10] Speaker 5: No, he was born, born in Bethlehem, and a whole
[1:10:13] Speaker 5: other bunch of prophecies.
[1:10:14] Speaker 2: There's no prophecy that Messiah is going to be born
[1:10:16] Speaker 2: into Bethlehem.
[1:10:20] Speaker 21: I believe there is either Nazareth or Bethlehem, but after
[1:10:24] Speaker 21: certainly not Nazareth.
[1:10:25] Speaker 2: But also it doesn't say he's going to be born
[1:10:28] Speaker 2: in Bethlehem's people who didn't actually know the Hebrew Bible.
[1:10:34] Speaker 2: A bunch of magi from the East who didn't even
[1:10:37] Speaker 2: know the Hebrew Bible gave that interpretation to Herod according
[1:10:41] Speaker 2: to the New Testament. But that's not what Micah five
[1:10:43] Speaker 2: actually says. Micah five states that he's going to be
[1:10:46] Speaker 2: from the ancient lineage of Bethlehem and Ephratha. Those are
[1:10:52] Speaker 2: the eldest ancestors of King David. This is saying that
[1:10:55] Speaker 2: he's going to come from the lineage of David, not
[1:10:58] Speaker 2: the city of Day unless you think that and Bethlehem
[1:11:02] Speaker 2: are identical cities, and they're not.
[1:11:04] Speaker 12: Okay, So my.
[1:11:05] Speaker 5: Question is to you, then, what do you believe that
[1:11:08] Speaker 5: Jesus resurrected?
[1:11:09] Speaker 7: Yes or no?
[1:11:09] Speaker 5: Probably no, No, he didn't.
[1:11:12] Speaker 2: He didn't resurrect, and neither did and neither did he.
[1:11:16] Speaker 2: It was thrown into a masked grave, and people made
[1:11:18] Speaker 2: up stories about him.
[1:11:20] Speaker 5: You have proof?
[1:11:21] Speaker 2: Do you have proof that he didn't?
[1:11:23] Speaker 12: I have.
[1:11:24] Speaker 5: People are willing to die to say they saw him.
[1:11:27] Speaker 2: How do you know they died for this?
[1:11:29] Speaker 5: Peter was crucified upside down?
[1:11:31] Speaker 2: Which text documents the upside Which text documents which text
[1:11:36] Speaker 2: documents the upside down preservection of Peter?
[1:11:39] Speaker 5: Peter? Which sex?
[1:11:41] Speaker 2: Try this again, Tito, Trying to speed run arguments will
[1:11:44] Speaker 2: never work here. I'm going to pause every time you
[1:11:46] Speaker 2: say one and question you about it. You should know
[1:11:48] Speaker 2: this by now. Which text says that Peter was crucified
[1:11:52] Speaker 2: upside down?
[1:11:53] Speaker 5: It's not in scripture. It's outside of scripture.
[1:11:55] Speaker 19: I know.
[1:11:56] Speaker 2: Do you know which text it is? Because I do.
[1:11:59] Speaker 5: Well, you have going in front of you, my friend,
[1:12:01] Speaker 5: I'm doing this up the temple.
[1:12:02] Speaker 2: No, I've actually read the text.
[1:12:05] Speaker 5: Well, shoot it something.
[1:12:05] Speaker 7: Let me know.
[1:12:06] Speaker 2: I know the apocamical accent Peter. And in that same book,
[1:12:11] Speaker 2: in the same book that describes Peter being humbly crucified
[1:12:15] Speaker 2: upside down, it says that the Holy Spirit empowered a
[1:12:17] Speaker 2: dog to give a speech to the household that was
[1:12:21] Speaker 2: hiding Simon Magus. Then it says a baby suckling at
[1:12:24] Speaker 2: its mother's teet gave a speech. And then later in
[1:12:27] Speaker 2: the same book, it says that Simon Magus and Peter
[1:12:30] Speaker 2: got into a wizard's duel, and Simon Megas was flying
[1:12:34] Speaker 2: around in the air and Peter shot him out of
[1:12:36] Speaker 2: the air and he fell down and broke his hip.
[1:12:38] Speaker 2: Do you think that this is a trustworthy book? Do
[1:12:39] Speaker 2: you think that dogs give speeches?
[1:12:46] Speaker 7: Well?
[1:12:47] Speaker 5: Book? Is there some? I'm sorry, what book?
[1:12:49] Speaker 7: Did you say?
[1:12:49] Speaker 5: One more time?
[1:12:49] Speaker 2: I'm sorry, this is the act of Peter.
[1:12:57] Speaker 5: I haven't. I've been probably stimmed over that you should.
[1:13:01] Speaker 2: You should read some of these supposed testimonies. It sounds
[1:13:04] Speaker 2: like what you're doing is repeating talking points rather than
[1:13:07] Speaker 2: having actual knowledge. So again, Jesus, Jesus fulfilled exactly zero
[1:13:12] Speaker 2: Messianic prophecies. Why would I believe that Jesus is the Messiah?
[1:13:17] Speaker 5: Well, what I'm saying is you have the why?
[1:13:21] Speaker 7: Why?
[1:13:22] Speaker 2: Why would I believe that Jesus is the Messiah?
[1:13:24] Speaker 1: Is the question.
[1:13:26] Speaker 21: I have to answer the question. So if you ask me,
[1:13:28] Speaker 21: got to answer for you. I have faith in Jesus Christ.
[1:13:32] Speaker 21: I have faith that Jesus rule. No faith, it's faith.
[1:13:37] Speaker 2: Indeed, have faith in the true Messiah, Justin, that's where
[1:13:40] Speaker 2: your faith should be. Your faith is not in the
[1:13:43] Speaker 2: right Messiah. Your faith is in a false Messiah predicted
[1:13:46] Speaker 2: in Deuteronomy thirteen.
[1:13:48] Speaker 5: So I have a question, though, do you I don't.
[1:13:50] Speaker 5: Do you believe the reason is going to Reason is
[1:13:54] Speaker 5: the way or the vehicle that gets you to God?
[1:13:56] Speaker 5: How do you how do you believe to get to God?
[1:13:57] Speaker 5: If there is?
[1:13:58] Speaker 2: If you if you think God is unreasonable, I agree
[1:14:02] Speaker 2: with you. Your God is unreasonable, and so is your Messiah.
[1:14:06] Speaker 2: You've heard it here the confession from Tito. His Messiah
[1:14:09] Speaker 2: is in fact unreasonable. Just know, my friends, the good
[1:14:13] Speaker 2: news that I bring to you is that I will
[1:14:15] Speaker 2: never ask you to believe in unreasonable things.
[1:14:19] Speaker 13: Fun fact, everybody in the In the Book of the Prophet,
[1:14:23] Speaker 13: it is written that the Messiah's name will be Yahweh.
[1:14:26] Speaker 13: Is it kaneu, which means Yahweh is our righteousness?
[1:14:29] Speaker 1: And guess what.
[1:14:31] Speaker 13: Justin is derived from the Latin Eustace, which means righteous.
[1:14:37] Speaker 2: Indeed, another prophecy is called Immanuel with us, he wasn't
[1:14:43] Speaker 2: called Emmanuel even once.
[1:14:47] Speaker 21: Well, I believe when they Angel came and told Mary,
[1:14:50] Speaker 21: I believe he told him that you shall.
[1:14:52] Speaker 1: Name She tells him to call him, No, she said Jesus, Jesus.
[1:14:57] Speaker 2: She said, she said to call him Jesus and Matthew
[1:15:00] Speaker 2: one twenty three. He didn't say anything about naming him Emmanuel.
[1:15:05] Speaker 5: Look up typing on Google seats.
[1:15:07] Speaker 2: In fact, he lies, he lies about it. The angel,
[1:15:11] Speaker 2: according to Tito, I don't know why you talk like that.
[1:15:16] Speaker 2: I've never met so many people other than like Christians
[1:15:20] Speaker 2: who endlessly talk over top of people. So it says,
[1:15:24] Speaker 2: and I'll show it to you since you don't know
[1:15:27] Speaker 2: your own book. And that's okay. We do expect that
[1:15:29] Speaker 2: from Christians not to know their own false book says
[1:15:33] Speaker 2: all this took place to fulfill what had been spoken
[1:15:36] Speaker 2: by the Lord through the prophet. Look, the Virgin shall
[1:15:38] Speaker 2: become pregnant and shall give birth to a son, and
[1:15:40] Speaker 2: they shall name him Emmanuel. But the reality is, Tito,
[1:15:44] Speaker 2: if you actually go back, So if you actually go
[1:15:48] Speaker 2: back to Isaiah seven where this shows up, it doesn't
[1:15:52] Speaker 2: say they shall name him Emmanuel. Doesn't say they at all.
[1:15:57] Speaker 2: This is added because people who wrote this gospel want
[1:16:00] Speaker 2: you to believe that other people will call him Emmanuel.
[1:16:04] Speaker 2: And this is the last time Emmanuel shows up in
[1:16:07] Speaker 2: the gospels. Nobody once, not even once, called him Emmanuel,
[1:16:12] Speaker 2: which means the the Angel lied. The Angel says that
[1:16:16] Speaker 2: they shall name him Emmanuel, and then they never did.
[1:16:19] Speaker 2: Never once did they ever call him Emmanuel.
[1:16:22] Speaker 21: They called Jesus God, They called them curios h Emmanuel
[1:16:26] Speaker 21: they called, they called, they call him Emanuel.
[1:16:30] Speaker 5: Did they not say, curious?
[1:16:31] Speaker 2: Did they call him Emmanuel?
[1:16:33] Speaker 5: Did they call him God?
[1:16:34] Speaker 2: Did they call him Emanuel?
[1:16:36] Speaker 1: They called him God?
[1:16:38] Speaker 2: Diduel?
[1:16:39] Speaker 5: They did? I'm sorry?
[1:16:41] Speaker 2: Did they call him Emanuel?
[1:16:42] Speaker 7: To you?
[1:16:42] Speaker 5: They called him curios? Curios? Right?
[1:16:44] Speaker 2: I didn't ask that. I said, did they call him Emmanuel?
[1:16:46] Speaker 5: Also said my Lord and my God?
[1:16:48] Speaker 2: And you're gonna get muted to you? Answer my question.
[1:16:51] Speaker 2: The question was, did anyone in the New Testament ever
[1:16:55] Speaker 2: refer to Jesus in the Gospels as Emanuel? Did they
[1:16:59] Speaker 2: ever call him that? Okay? That means the Angel lied. Also,
[1:17:05] Speaker 2: we know that the New Testament is not true because
[1:17:06] Speaker 2: if you just go to Isaiah, it's clear that Isaiah
[1:17:09] Speaker 2: seven is not even about the Messiah. Have you read
[1:17:12] Speaker 2: Isaiah seven?
[1:17:14] Speaker 5: I read the whole of Isaiah.
[1:17:15] Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, Then give me the background. What's happening in
[1:17:17] Speaker 2: chapter seven?
[1:17:18] Speaker 7: Prove it.
[1:17:19] Speaker 5: I don't know chapter seven off the top, but I
[1:17:21] Speaker 5: know that Isaiah.
[1:17:21] Speaker 2: You don't know anything about chapter seven, then tell me one.
[1:17:24] Speaker 2: Tell me one thing you know about chapter seven, Just one.
[1:17:30] Speaker 5: I don't I don't have Isaiah Isaiah seven memorized only.
[1:17:34] Speaker 2: So you don't know any the one of the most
[1:17:35] Speaker 2: important prophecies, one of the first prophecies we find in
[1:17:38] Speaker 2: the Hebrew, in the New Testament, from the Hebrew Bible,
[1:17:42] Speaker 2: and you don't know literally anything about it. This is embarrassing.
[1:17:45] Speaker 2: It's almost like it's almost like you don't even know
[1:17:49] Speaker 2: what's in your own book. But it starts out in
[1:17:51] Speaker 2: the days of a Has, the son of Jonathan, son
[1:17:54] Speaker 2: of Uzaiah, King of Jude, King Reason of Aram, and
[1:17:56] Speaker 2: King son of Romalio visual went up to attack Drusalea
[1:18:00] Speaker 2: conquer it. So the background is about seven thirty and
[1:18:03] Speaker 2: there is a war, and the war is between who
[1:18:05] Speaker 2: do you know who?
[1:18:06] Speaker 5: These people are no students to me, I don't know
[1:18:08] Speaker 5: the idea.
[1:18:09] Speaker 7: Let me know.
[1:18:09] Speaker 2: So the war is between the King of Judah thus
[1:18:11] Speaker 2: a Has and he's being attacked by two other kingdoms,
[1:18:14] Speaker 2: his own brethren to the north, who have made an
[1:18:16] Speaker 2: alliance with the Aramians, and they want to depose him,
[1:18:19] Speaker 2: and they want to put a king that's more favorable
[1:18:21] Speaker 2: to their alliance on the throne, and he's afraid that
[1:18:24] Speaker 2: his kingdom's going to fall, which is clear in verse
[1:18:26] Speaker 2: two when the House of David heard that aram had
[1:18:28] Speaker 2: allies itself with Ephrium, the heart of a Has and
[1:18:30] Speaker 2: a heart of his people shook as the trees of
[1:18:32] Speaker 2: the foreshape before the wind. So he's scared, as one
[1:18:35] Speaker 2: would be when they're actually attacked. So the Lord sends
[1:18:37] Speaker 2: the prophet to go give him a prophecy. This is Isaiah.
[1:18:41] Speaker 2: The first prophecy you're not concerned with, but it's important
[1:18:43] Speaker 2: because it ends with if you do not stand firm
[1:18:45] Speaker 2: in faith, you shall not stand at all, which gives
[1:18:47] Speaker 2: you the summary of what's actually happening in this chapter,
[1:18:50] Speaker 2: which is God is trying to shore up the faith
[1:18:53] Speaker 2: of a Has and his people during this time of trouble,
[1:18:56] Speaker 2: which leads us to the second prophecy, which you think
[1:18:58] Speaker 2: is important, but as will find doubt, it's not. He
[1:19:01] Speaker 2: says again the Lord spoke to a Has, saying ask
[1:19:03] Speaker 2: a sign of the Lord your god, and let it
[1:19:05] Speaker 2: be as deep as shield or as high as heaven.
[1:19:07] Speaker 2: But a has said, I will not ask, and I
[1:19:10] Speaker 2: will not put the Lord of the test. Then Isaiah said, here, then,
[1:19:13] Speaker 2: o house of Israel, I'm sorry, House of David. Is
[1:19:16] Speaker 2: it too little for you to weary mortals that you
[1:19:18] Speaker 2: weary my God? Also, therefore, the Lord himself will give
[1:19:21] Speaker 2: you a sign. We'll pause here because it's going to
[1:19:23] Speaker 2: get good in a second. But when he says you,
[1:19:27] Speaker 2: who's he talking to? Who's getting a sign?
[1:19:30] Speaker 7: Let me know?
[1:19:30] Speaker 5: I want to hear it.
[1:19:31] Speaker 2: Let me know your test he has. This is God
[1:19:33] Speaker 2: talking through Isaiah to a has And it says, since
[1:19:37] Speaker 2: you didn't ask for a sign, so what, I'll give
[1:19:40] Speaker 2: you one anyways. And it says, therefore the Lord himself
[1:19:44] Speaker 2: will give you a sign. Look, the young woman is
[1:19:47] Speaker 2: with child and shall bear a son, and shall name
[1:19:50] Speaker 2: him Emmanuel. Keep hold on, You're almost there. He shall
[1:19:55] Speaker 2: eat kurds and honey by the time he knows how
[1:19:57] Speaker 2: to refuse evil and choose good. For before the child
[1:20:01] Speaker 2: knows how to refuse evil and choose good, the land
[1:20:04] Speaker 2: before whose two kings you are in dread will be deserted,
[1:20:08] Speaker 2: And how are they going to be deserted? The Lord
[1:20:10] Speaker 2: will bring on you, and on your people, and on
[1:20:12] Speaker 2: your ancestral house, such days as have not come since
[1:20:15] Speaker 2: the day that Ephraim departed from Judah, the king of Assyria.
[1:20:19] Speaker 2: So the prophecy says, before this child knows right from wrong,
[1:20:25] Speaker 2: the King of Assyria is going to come through and
[1:20:27] Speaker 2: wipe out these two kings that are threatening King a Has,
[1:20:30] Speaker 2: which means this prophecy has to be fulfilled within the
[1:20:34] Speaker 2: timeframe of the reign of King a Has. And if
[1:20:38] Speaker 2: you turn one page further to chapter eight, it comes true.
[1:20:42] Speaker 2: In chapter eight, there's nothing here about a messiah. Can
[1:20:45] Speaker 2: you show me the passage? Can you show me the
[1:20:47] Speaker 2: passage here where the child is the Messiah?
[1:20:53] Speaker 5: That's no, I can't. I can't read that right there.
[1:20:55] Speaker 5: But I have a question. And then the last question.
[1:20:57] Speaker 5: I'll let you go. But who is the Who was
[1:21:00] Speaker 5: the son of Man in the vision of Daniel?
[1:21:02] Speaker 2: I would I would run as well, it's it's the
[1:21:04] Speaker 2: angel or the archangel. It's not. It's certainly not Jesus
[1:21:08] Speaker 2: the son of Man, or the one like the one
[1:21:11] Speaker 2: like this, the one like the I don't know, I
[1:21:13] Speaker 2: think you're confused with how things work here. The one
[1:21:16] Speaker 2: like the son of Man, it doesn't say the son
[1:21:18] Speaker 2: of man, by the way in Daniel says like a
[1:21:21] Speaker 2: son of a man meaning in appearance, is in fact
[1:21:25] Speaker 2: one of the angels. I think it's Michael the Archangel.
[1:21:27] Speaker 2: I don't think it's Gabrielle either way. Both of the
[1:21:30] Speaker 2: angels within that particular book are referred to as men
[1:21:34] Speaker 2: and also referred to as like a son of a God.
[1:21:38] Speaker 2: They're basically god men. In that book. They look like men,
[1:21:41] Speaker 2: they're called men, but they're also said that they look
[1:21:43] Speaker 2: like God, and they have these divine attributes. And if
[1:21:46] Speaker 2: you fast forward to chapter twelve, who is the one
[1:21:50] Speaker 2: that's defeating all of the enemies of Israel and ushering
[1:21:53] Speaker 2: in the Final Age? It's Michael the Archangel. It's not Jesus.
[1:21:58] Speaker 5: Go to Hebrews One.
[1:22:00] Speaker 2: Why would I go to Hebrews One?
[1:22:02] Speaker 7: There you go?
[1:22:02] Speaker 2: I know why Hebrews Hebrews One isn't in the Hebrew Bible?
[1:22:06] Speaker 7: Is it.
[1:22:08] Speaker 4: Is Hebrews?
[1:22:09] Speaker 2: Is Hebrews in the Hebrew on the is Hebrews one
[1:22:12] Speaker 2: in the Hebrew Bible?
[1:22:14] Speaker 6: What is it?
[1:22:15] Speaker 5: What does God say about angels. No, no, no, no,
[1:22:17] Speaker 5: he doesn't call none of them. There's some reading up.
[1:22:20] Speaker 5: I'm not even reading it right now.
[1:22:21] Speaker 4: Ahead Hebrews.
[1:22:23] Speaker 2: Hebrews one is a quotation from the Psalms. You know that, right.
[1:22:27] Speaker 2: He says he doesn't even know that.
[1:22:29] Speaker 4: He said, he didn't.
[1:22:30] Speaker 1: He definitely doesn't. He definitely doesn't.
[1:22:33] Speaker 13: He definitely doesn't know that a psalm about Solomon was
[1:22:37] Speaker 13: attributed to mister attributed to Jesus in the Book of Hebrews.
[1:22:40] Speaker 1: Because the Book of Hebrews did not know the Hebrew
[1:22:42] Speaker 1: Bible all that.
[1:22:43] Speaker 2: Well, yeah, the Book of Hebrews has no idea what's
[1:22:45] Speaker 2: happening uh in the actual Hebrew Bible. That's why I
[1:22:50] Speaker 2: quotes it from the Greek every time. The Book of
[1:22:53] Speaker 2: Hebrews doesn't quote the Hebrew Bible once, it quotes the
[1:22:56] Speaker 2: Greek Old Testament. That's why. That's why if you take
[1:23:03] Speaker 2: the if you take the quote from the Old Testament
[1:23:05] Speaker 2: in your English and you compare it to what it
[1:23:07] Speaker 2: says in the New Testaments, why does it match. Because
[1:23:09] Speaker 2: he's quoting it from the Greek Sceptuagen, not from the
[1:23:12] Speaker 2: actual Hebrew text. Because whoever wrote the supposed Book of
[1:23:15] Speaker 2: Hebrews could actually read Hebrew.
[1:23:18] Speaker 5: Hebrews One is part of scriptures.
[1:23:20] Speaker 2: Why I take Hebrews One is not part of scripture.
[1:23:23] Speaker 13: It's a live Yes, hey, I have a Bible here.
[1:23:26] Speaker 13: It doesn't have the Book of Hebrews in it.
[1:23:28] Speaker 2: Yeah, weird?
[1:23:29] Speaker 5: What about that? Well, I don't know. I want to
[1:23:32] Speaker 5: know which one you guys have.
[1:23:33] Speaker 7: But I have.
[1:23:33] Speaker 13: It's got It's got the Torah, the prophets, the writings.
[1:23:37] Speaker 13: It's the same kind of Bible that Jesus familiar with.
[1:23:42] Speaker 2: Why believe this book? We believe in the Hebrew Bible.
[1:23:47] Speaker 5: So you don't believe in the writings of Paul.
[1:23:49] Speaker 2: Why why would we were not Christians? We don't believe
[1:23:52] Speaker 2: in your mythology.
[1:23:57] Speaker 5: Fair enough already, man, Well I catch up with U.
[1:24:00] Speaker 5: Let away time.
[1:24:05] Speaker 2: No, it's all wait, well, I wouldn't have done that
[1:24:12] Speaker 2: if he hadn't accused me earlier. Running you do it
[1:24:14] Speaker 2: to yourself. I don't know why you guys do that
[1:24:16] Speaker 2: to yourselves. It's crazy. You set yourselves up for praisings.
[1:24:20] Speaker 1: It's Halloween and you scared him off.
[1:24:23] Speaker 2: So indeed, indeed, friends, thank you so much for being here.
[1:24:28] Speaker 2: I'm going to grab just a couple tithes and offerings,
[1:24:31] Speaker 2: and we're going to get our next guest in here
[1:24:33] Speaker 2: freedom from security. Thank you so much for the twenty
[1:24:35] Speaker 2: dollars tithes, his tithes for the one true Messiah of
[1:24:38] Speaker 2: the foundation of reality. The crust has risen. Praise Doug, indeed,
[1:24:42] Speaker 2: and may the courts be with you, my friend, on
[1:24:44] Speaker 2: this blessed, blessed day. And Locke fur ree, thank you
[1:24:47] Speaker 2: so much for the ninety nine dollars tithe. Much appreciated,
[1:24:50] Speaker 2: my friend. You are building up treasures in heaven, says
[1:24:53] Speaker 2: Wish I wasn't busy. Can't wait to watch watch this later.
[1:24:57] Speaker 2: So hilarious. Praise is my Messiah. Blessings to you, Locke,
[1:25:01] Speaker 2: blessings to you. Go in peace, my son. And Zach says,
[1:25:05] Speaker 2: I rose from the dead. Thank you for the nineteen
[1:25:07] Speaker 2: ninety nine dollars offering, says good luck proving I didn't Indeed, Zach,
[1:25:12] Speaker 2: not a single Christian here today. This is my prediction
[1:25:15] Speaker 2: another prophecy. Not a single Christian here today will be
[1:25:19] Speaker 2: able to disprove that I didn't walk on water. They
[1:25:23] Speaker 2: won't be able to disprove that I walked on water,
[1:25:25] Speaker 2: or that I rose from the heavens and then came
[1:25:28] Speaker 2: down from heaven, or that I'm an eternal being. They
[1:25:31] Speaker 2: can't prove any of those things, they can't disprove them. Rather,
[1:25:35] Speaker 2: they're just true, and you have to have faith. You
[1:25:37] Speaker 2: have to come to me as a child, childlike faith.
[1:25:40] Speaker 2: And Adam, thank you so much for the ten dollars offering,
[1:25:43] Speaker 2: says phil Bros are fond of Pascal's wager, but if
[1:25:45] Speaker 2: they embrace Catholicism on Pascal's terms, they would be Jane.
[1:25:50] Speaker 2: Jane's innis heretics. I anathematize the philbro Indeed, and as
[1:25:58] Speaker 2: we've already seen, there's quite a few people who are
[1:26:00] Speaker 2: getting anathematized today. Even Milfrankler, thank you for the ten
[1:26:03] Speaker 2: dollars offering, says, can't all of us be the Messiah?
[1:26:06] Speaker 2: If we ride a donkey in Jerusalem, we got to
[1:26:08] Speaker 2: rent like two hundred meals. Well, the reality is, my friend,
[1:26:11] Speaker 2: you don't even have to do it in Jerusalem. Remember,
[1:26:13] Speaker 2: this is a partial fulfillment. You just have to do
[1:26:15] Speaker 2: one part of it. If no one said which part
[1:26:17] Speaker 2: of it you have to do. In fact, you could
[1:26:19] Speaker 2: just walk into Jerusalem and say that you fulfilled that
[1:26:21] Speaker 2: part and you'll ride the donkey later when you do
[1:26:23] Speaker 2: partial fulfillment says up to you how you do the parts.
[1:26:26] Speaker 2: It's all up to you, my friend, and reverend what do.
[1:26:29] Speaker 3: You want for your second coming? As much as you want?
[1:26:33] Speaker 3: And it can be like mid verse. You can be like, Okay,
[1:26:35] Speaker 3: I did this part already and then you know the
[1:26:38] Speaker 3: rest of it. You can do another time in what
[1:26:41] Speaker 3: indeed you can't. So it's so libertarian.
[1:26:45] Speaker 7: I love it.
[1:26:46] Speaker 2: Indeed, indeed, and Reverend Nate says Messiah one, how much
[1:26:50] Speaker 2: did they pay you for your cameo? And Monty Python
[1:26:52] Speaker 2: and the Holy Grail? In two Holy hand Grenade of
[1:26:56] Speaker 2: Antioch factor of fiction. It is true there is such
[1:26:59] Speaker 2: a thing as a Holy hand grenade of Antioch. Can
[1:27:01] Speaker 2: remember the counting is one, two and three certainly not
[1:27:05] Speaker 2: four and five? Is right out? Just so very clear
[1:27:09] Speaker 2: on this. And also storm Chaser, thank you for the
[1:27:13] Speaker 2: ten that our times say. Is ever here a miracle
[1:27:15] Speaker 2: where a tornado destroying a home but leaves the Bible untouched?
[1:27:18] Speaker 2: I have indeed, because it's not a real miracle. It's
[1:27:20] Speaker 2: caused by wind rowing. It causes weird selective destruction like
[1:27:25] Speaker 2: bowling alleys destroying but leaving pins. Yeah, I certainly would
[1:27:28] Speaker 2: believe that is the case. These are all naturalistic phenomena.
[1:27:31] Speaker 2: No need to reach for some stupid miracle whereby God
[1:27:35] Speaker 2: preserves a book full of lies that is, but then
[1:27:39] Speaker 2: won't preserve actual human beings with value. And Jeff says,
[1:27:42] Speaker 2: my grandson has a school project read the Fall of
[1:27:45] Speaker 2: the Eastern Roman Empire. He needs eight sources. Hard to
[1:27:48] Speaker 2: find any suggestions, thanks, I mean, on that specific topic,
[1:27:53] Speaker 2: a lot of people had written about it. One of
[1:27:56] Speaker 2: the most pre eminent scholars on the Roman Empire. What
[1:28:01] Speaker 2: was her name? Shoot, she's got like three best sellers
[1:28:06] Speaker 2: as we speak, and I can't believe I don't remember
[1:28:08] Speaker 2: her name anymore. Hmm.
[1:28:13] Speaker 7: Let me get it.
[1:28:18] Speaker 2: What happens when you study the Hebrew Bible rather than
[1:28:26] Speaker 2: you know, send me a message on discord. I've got
[1:28:28] Speaker 2: one of her books in the other room. After the stream.
[1:28:31] Speaker 2: I'll get her name and we'll I'll hook you up.
[1:28:33] Speaker 2: She's really good though, she's really well respected in the community.
[1:28:37] Speaker 7: Uh.
[1:28:38] Speaker 2: And Omar says, justin there's a restaurant in Columbus, Ohio
[1:28:41] Speaker 2: called Nazareth. Just say you're from there. I did already. Omar,
[1:28:44] Speaker 2: you probably heard me say that I'm from from Nazareth, Ohio.
[1:28:48] Speaker 2: It's not a real town, but it doesn't matter. It's
[1:28:51] Speaker 2: it's a spiritual fulfillment. N Nazareth can be anything as
[1:28:54] Speaker 2: long as you get the right word and last one
[1:28:56] Speaker 2: from our Canadian tie. Thank you so much, Simon says,
[1:28:59] Speaker 2: at last, the word has made flesh and dwelleth among us,
[1:29:03] Speaker 2: and behold his glory, his glory of the only begotten
[1:29:06] Speaker 2: justin which came forth from our Lord Doug full of
[1:29:09] Speaker 2: grace and truth and rock hard. Indeed, Simon, indeed, I
[1:29:15] Speaker 2: appreciate this. All right, Let's get our next guest into
[1:29:18] Speaker 2: the queue. And if I was a man who predicted things,
[1:29:23] Speaker 2: I would predict right now that our next guest is
[1:29:27] Speaker 2: either a troll or a really really butt hurt Muslim.
[1:29:38] Speaker 2: How you doing, Haram, Haram, hello, my friend, I have
[1:29:52] Speaker 2: a question, Haram. I have a question. Are you at
[1:29:55] Speaker 2: least eighteen? And do you believe that Jesus is a Messiah?
[1:30:00] Speaker 2: I have a question on you, my fruit. I'm Muslim,
[1:30:03] Speaker 2: trust again. So the question was, are you eighteen and
[1:30:07] Speaker 2: do you believe that Jesus was nigger?
[1:30:10] Speaker 12: Nigger?
[1:30:10] Speaker 2: Nigger, nigger, nigger. This is the best the Cult of
[1:30:14] Speaker 2: Jesus can do.
[1:30:15] Speaker 5: Nigger.
[1:30:16] Speaker 11: Fuck niggers. Fuck niggers, Fuck niggers, nigger, nigger, nigger, nigger.
[1:30:19] Speaker 11: Fuck niggers, Fuck niggers, nigger, nigger, nigger, nigger. Fun Christians
[1:30:24] Speaker 11: fuck Jews, fuck niggers, Fuck Jews.
[1:30:26] Speaker 2: The best is has have wrest.
[1:30:34] Speaker 12: I loved.
[1:30:39] Speaker 1: I love what sort of I think I would expect
[1:30:41] Speaker 1: someone who praised.
[1:30:43] Speaker 5: Christians.
[1:30:44] Speaker 2: Fuck you, We'll let the little baby wear himself out. Nigga,
[1:30:52] Speaker 2: let us know when you're ready for a diaper change.
[1:30:57] Speaker 2: And he's gone, oh.
[1:31:01] Speaker 8: You know.
[1:31:02] Speaker 13: You know yesterday in my video, dam it, I said
[1:31:07] Speaker 13: something about I couldn't find my corona. I forgot where
[1:31:10] Speaker 13: it was. I forgot I was using it to prop
[1:31:12] Speaker 13: up the fridge. Someone pointed out to me, So, yeah, that's.
[1:31:15] Speaker 1: Right, that's where it's. It's it's my fridge is making
[1:31:17] Speaker 1: a weird noise.
[1:31:18] Speaker 22: So the only way I can keep it from doing that,
[1:31:19] Speaker 22: that's why using my little karate to prop it up. Amazing, Amazing,
[1:31:27] Speaker 22: My my fridge stands firm on the word of Allah.
[1:31:31] Speaker 2: Indeed it does. Indeed, you gotta get a picture of
[1:31:33] Speaker 2: that for us so we can have a copy. Carlos,
[1:31:35] Speaker 2: thank you for the ten DZ debate offerings. I thank
[1:31:39] Speaker 2: you very much, Carlos big w and Kent, thank you
[1:31:42] Speaker 2: for storing up treasures in Heaven with the twenty dollars tithes.
[1:31:46] Speaker 2: So I wanted to do it in nineteen fourteen. Oh, well,
[1:31:49] Speaker 2: are you aware that the generation of Matthew twenty four
[1:31:52] Speaker 2: thirty four is overlapping? Guess my former cult I'd love
[1:31:56] Speaker 2: to chat with you to thank you for not being
[1:32:00] Speaker 2: around when I was an apologists. Well, you are certainly welcome, Kent.
[1:32:05] Speaker 2: And when you were an apologist, I might have actually
[1:32:08] Speaker 2: been a quasi apologist, although my apologists days were very short.
[1:32:12] Speaker 2: I very quickly gave that up once I realized that
[1:32:15] Speaker 2: most of the arguments from apologists weren't actually good, like
[1:32:18] Speaker 2: you couldn't actually win arguments with them.
[1:32:21] Speaker 7: And then.
[1:32:23] Speaker 3: A lot of Justin apologism was apologizing for bad Christian
[1:32:29] Speaker 3: beliefs and ideas even when he was a Christian.
[1:32:32] Speaker 2: So that's true. Yeah, yeah, Chet knew me back then.
[1:32:36] Speaker 2: Chet and I were both Christians. We were both Jesus
[1:32:39] Speaker 2: warriors for quite a time. Let me get our next
[1:32:43] Speaker 2: guest here, it looks like we're gonna get Jesus Warrior again.
[1:32:46] Speaker 2: I thought we talked to Jesus Warrior recently. Jesus Warrior welcome.
[1:32:58] Speaker 12: Yeah, what.
[1:33:00] Speaker 2: Jesus Warrior, we already eighteen? Why do you believe that
[1:33:04] Speaker 2: Jesus is a Messiah.
[1:33:08] Speaker 23: Because he's the one that created Prove it, bor read
[1:33:15] Speaker 23: your Bible.
[1:33:16] Speaker 2: The Bible's not true.
[1:33:17] Speaker 23: I want to ask you something, so so hold on,
[1:33:20] Speaker 23: let me ask you something.
[1:33:21] Speaker 2: Did you say he didn't have any a lying liar?
[1:33:25] Speaker 2: The tongue of the devil.
[1:33:27] Speaker 3: When the Messiah asks you a question, you just answer
[1:33:30] Speaker 3: the question.
[1:33:31] Speaker 1: Oh indeed is the response.
[1:33:34] Speaker 2: Indeed evasive? Obviously? He is the hard ground that the
[1:33:39] Speaker 2: seed falls upon and takes root and then is quickly withered. Sidney,
[1:33:47] Speaker 2: welcome in. What's up justin, Oh Sydney.
[1:33:54] Speaker 5: How are you doing?
[1:33:55] Speaker 7: Man?
[1:33:56] Speaker 2: Shit, sid I haven't heard from you in like a
[1:33:57] Speaker 2: year and a half.
[1:33:59] Speaker 6: Well because I've been off. I've been off, I haven't
[1:34:02] Speaker 6: been on. I just want to say to see how
[1:34:04] Speaker 6: you're doing, and uh, I hope you're doing well, and uh,
[1:34:11] Speaker 6: good to see you.
[1:34:12] Speaker 2: It's good to see you.
[1:34:15] Speaker 6: Got to be it got to be too ugly and
[1:34:17] Speaker 6: too mean spirited when people were talking to each other,
[1:34:22] Speaker 6: and I didn't want to be uh part of that
[1:34:25] Speaker 6: representation of my faith as a Christian.
[1:34:29] Speaker 4: And I believe that agents can not believe.
[1:34:32] Speaker 6: And I can believe that they want to say they
[1:34:35] Speaker 6: want to say, and that's fine, you know.
[1:34:39] Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad that you're okay. It's been
[1:34:41] Speaker 2: a while since we talked.
[1:34:42] Speaker 5: That.
[1:34:42] Speaker 2: Being said, tonight's probably not the right night for a
[1:34:45] Speaker 2: Sydney discussion because I'm just here trolling Christians.
[1:34:49] Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't see how you're doing.
[1:34:51] Speaker 2: I do hope you're well. I'm doing well though, Yeah.
[1:34:54] Speaker 6: Oh good good. I'm glad to hear that, and how everything.
[1:34:57] Speaker 6: I'm I hope you're doing well. Your son's doing well,
[1:35:00] Speaker 6: and also.
[1:35:02] Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone's good. I really appreciate you, though, Sydney. I
[1:35:06] Speaker 2: often said, Sydney used to come around quite a bit
[1:35:08] Speaker 2: back in the day, but I often said that, you know,
[1:35:10] Speaker 2: a lot of people were like Sydney, like, we probably
[1:35:13] Speaker 2: wouldn't have a whole lot of animosity between the atheists
[1:35:16] Speaker 2: and the Christian Sidney, You're a good egg, buddy.
[1:35:20] Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, justin that just breaks breaks my heart to
[1:35:23] Speaker 6: see the nastiness that comes from some Christians, even though
[1:35:27] Speaker 6: you know you may not believe. That doesn't mean that
[1:35:29] Speaker 6: Christians supposed to be nasty. Matter of fact, it is
[1:35:32] Speaker 6: not even representative Christianity when they begin to speak in
[1:35:36] Speaker 6: such vow and.
[1:35:38] Speaker 5: Hateful ways towards the atheists.
[1:35:40] Speaker 12: I don't like that at all.
[1:35:41] Speaker 2: Right, I'm with you. Listen, Sydney. I hope you're doing well.
[1:35:44] Speaker 2: Caught back again soon. I've got to get somebody in
[1:35:47] Speaker 2: the box patrol.
[1:35:48] Speaker 6: But okay, justin okay, thanks for stopping.
[1:35:52] Speaker 2: By, though I missed you, buddy. I hope you're doing well.
[1:35:55] Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm doing well, thank you, true friend.
[1:35:59] Speaker 13: I've been thinking about what kind of drink do I
[1:36:02] Speaker 13: want to make the official drink of the Bible Guy
[1:36:04] Speaker 13: pod of the Bible Guide channel, and I'm thinking maybe
[1:36:07] Speaker 13: either Magin David or Money Chewitz, some sort of Jewish wine.
[1:36:13] Speaker 2: You have to, you have to, I think that would
[1:36:16] Speaker 2: be the only appropriate thing to do.
[1:36:18] Speaker 3: Indeed, well, let me Jewish wineke Fraser.
[1:36:23] Speaker 2: No, I never watch Fraser.
[1:36:26] Speaker 3: I'll see if I can find the clip or one
[1:36:28] Speaker 3: of my favorite shows. I'll see if I can find
[1:36:29] Speaker 3: the clip and send it to y'all.
[1:36:31] Speaker 2: When Fraser was like really popular, I was kind of
[1:36:34] Speaker 2: too young to care about it. But that being said,
[1:36:37] Speaker 2: I think I would like it as as an older adult,
[1:36:40] Speaker 2: you know, And.
[1:36:42] Speaker 13: I still don't know what Fraser is. I have no
[1:36:44] Speaker 13: idea I know who I know who Brandon Fraser.
[1:36:46] Speaker 2: Is because you're like nineteen over here.
[1:36:49] Speaker 1: No, don't start, don't start that.
[1:36:54] Speaker 2: All right, let me grab I got one tie, then
[1:36:56] Speaker 2: offering them we're gonna get our next guest, Chip, thank
[1:36:58] Speaker 2: you so much for the nineteen ninety nine dollars times
[1:37:01] Speaker 2: is being the messiah and profit of Doug quoting money
[1:37:04] Speaker 2: Python and using Stephen Hayes' emotional damage while barbecuing Christians
[1:37:09] Speaker 2: on Halloween. Take my money, rock hard for Doug and
[1:37:12] Speaker 2: simply what for sharing? Well, thank you, Chip, I appreciate that.
[1:37:15] Speaker 2: And are you not entertained? Friends? We try to bring
[1:37:20] Speaker 2: the goods on this channel. Let's get our next guest.
[1:37:22] Speaker 2: I think it's going to be Reverend Steve next. I
[1:37:28] Speaker 2: see Sam came back. We might be able to get
[1:37:29] Speaker 2: Sam in here after that. Welcome in, Reverend Steve.
[1:37:36] Speaker 7: Welcome justin. I am driving. At the moment I thought
[1:37:40] Speaker 7: the wife would be long.
[1:37:41] Speaker 2: He put me back in the books and yeah, sure thing. Yeah,
[1:37:46] Speaker 2: when you're not driving, we'll pull you back.
[1:37:48] Speaker 7: Okay, that would be wonderful, Thank you very much.
[1:37:51] Speaker 2: Trus Yeah, you know him for being honest. I say,
[1:37:55] Speaker 2: what about that? A guy who's actually honest being in
[1:37:59] Speaker 2: the drive. Siet All right, let me grab Sam.
[1:38:03] Speaker 7: I am.
[1:38:04] Speaker 2: I think we tried Sam a little bit ago and
[1:38:06] Speaker 2: Sam wasn't connected if I remember correctly, Sam, welcome back, Hello, Sam?
[1:38:14] Speaker 7: You have me all right?
[1:38:16] Speaker 2: Yeah, I can hear you. Everyone can hear you him.
[1:38:19] Speaker 2: Are you at least eighteen? And do you believe that
[1:38:21] Speaker 2: Jesus was the Messiah?
[1:38:24] Speaker 19: Uh?
[1:38:25] Speaker 14: No, I just had to cameack, come back and play
[1:38:27] Speaker 14: that stuff up. I just discovered you a week ago.
[1:38:30] Speaker 7: I'm a huge fund Do.
[1:38:32] Speaker 2: You believe that I'm the Messiah?
[1:38:35] Speaker 7: You look like it.
[1:38:37] Speaker 2: Praises praises be for another disciple.
[1:38:42] Speaker 14: How could I dispute that? But like I said, I
[1:38:45] Speaker 14: started my deconstruction journey at nineteen. I'm twenty two now
[1:38:50] Speaker 14: and it's been a it's been tough. At nineteen, that
[1:38:56] Speaker 14: was really tough. My whole life, I've been in church
[1:38:58] Speaker 14: and this is a good platform for me to learn
[1:39:02] Speaker 14: and you know, continue on my journey, but that might
[1:39:06] Speaker 14: have been the most traumatic thing I've experienced.
[1:39:09] Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, somebody on TikTok said, not that long ago,
[1:39:14] Speaker 2: everything I left behind, she talked about leaving Christianity. Everything
[1:39:17] Speaker 2: I left behind has claw marks in it. I think
[1:39:19] Speaker 2: that's a good way to describe what most of us
[1:39:22] Speaker 2: felt like when we left when we deconstructed, because it
[1:39:26] Speaker 2: wasn't because we wanted to, like we were. We were
[1:39:28] Speaker 2: drug away, kicking and screaming.
[1:39:31] Speaker 14: Right, But I'll let you get back to the baiting
[1:39:36] Speaker 14: the Christians. I just wanted to clear up. I'm not
[1:39:38] Speaker 14: the other song that I heard something both stalking and
[1:39:41] Speaker 14: stuff I put that together.
[1:39:43] Speaker 1: Just the hell.
[1:39:46] Speaker 2: All right, thank you, Sam, I appreciate you. All right,
[1:39:49] Speaker 2: cheers friend w Sam, big W for Sam. All Right,
[1:39:54] Speaker 2: we're gonna grab man. You l not not to be
[1:39:58] Speaker 2: confused with e Manuel, but let me grab. I've got
[1:40:03] Speaker 2: just a couple of times and offerings we've got from
[1:40:05] Speaker 2: our friend game Master Flash another ten to four adults
[1:40:09] Speaker 2: in respect. You can donate directly to him. By the way,
[1:40:11] Speaker 2: I still haven't got like one hundred bucks. I haven't
[1:40:13] Speaker 2: sent to him yet.
[1:40:15] Speaker 13: Guys, I have a pavehal and a cashap at this
[1:40:18] Speaker 13: point in the in myling tree, you can just take
[1:40:22] Speaker 13: your money directly.
[1:40:23] Speaker 1: I will accept your ties.
[1:40:24] Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, every time we do this, I have to
[1:40:27] Speaker 2: pay taxes on it. This goes on my tax report.
[1:40:33] Speaker 2: Thank you, game master, though, I really appreciate you being
[1:40:35] Speaker 2: here and definitely support support Dalton if you are capable
[1:40:39] Speaker 2: of doing so. Dalton's doing good work. And also our
[1:40:42] Speaker 2: friend Chet as well. Chet hasn't gone live too much recently,
[1:40:47] Speaker 2: but we are going to be going live tomorrow. Chet
[1:40:51] Speaker 2: and I are doing an expose on the ordeal by
[1:40:56] Speaker 2: water or the river or deal as it's called in
[1:40:59] Speaker 2: the ancient Mesopotamian regions and in the ancient Levan. It's
[1:41:03] Speaker 2: gonna be a good time.
[1:41:05] Speaker 7: And how is that?
[1:41:07] Speaker 5: How much the.
[1:41:08] Speaker 3: Bible might have to say about the river jumping ritual.
[1:41:12] Speaker 2: So it will be fun, it's exciting, it is exciting,
[1:41:18] Speaker 2: and how seventy says I don't know about Emmanuel, but
[1:41:21] Speaker 2: the movie Emmanuel were not to be missed back in
[1:41:25] Speaker 2: the day. Gen xers will know keep cooking them justin well,
[1:41:28] Speaker 2: thank you, I appreciate that. And w gen X. I
[1:41:31] Speaker 2: got a bunch of siblings in gen X and I
[1:41:33] Speaker 2: love that generation. I nearly missed it myself. I'm like
[1:41:37] Speaker 2: the elder of the millennials. And fake name thank you
[1:41:40] Speaker 2: for the ten dollars donation says when I was a Christian,
[1:41:44] Speaker 2: I would have argued Christ was a king on earth
[1:41:46] Speaker 2: due to the King of the Jews sign hung during
[1:41:48] Speaker 2: his crucifixion. Is that mistranslated or what is a counter apologetic? Well,
[1:41:52] Speaker 2: the counter apologetic is that they were mocking him. Merely
[1:41:58] Speaker 2: being mocked for not being doesn't make you a king.
[1:42:01] Speaker 2: I mean, I can go put a burger king on
[1:42:03] Speaker 2: that hat on. It doesn't make me a king because
[1:42:05] Speaker 2: I put a burger king hat.
[1:42:06] Speaker 5: On my head.
[1:42:07] Speaker 2: What makes you a king is being a legitimate king,
[1:42:11] Speaker 2: ruling and reigning in Israel according to the Hebrew Bible
[1:42:15] Speaker 2: and Terrissa, thank you for sending out twenty deconstruction zone
[1:42:21] Speaker 2: times and offerings. I certainly appreciate that. That's a big
[1:42:24] Speaker 2: w friend. And now we're gonna grab Manuel from the
[1:42:27] Speaker 2: Q or Manuel, Manuel, I assume it Manuel, Welcome in?
[1:42:35] Speaker 4: Manuel?
[1:42:37] Speaker 5: Is it?
[1:42:38] Speaker 7: Manuel? Yeah?
[1:42:38] Speaker 24: Thanks very much?
[1:42:40] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah it is yeah, yeah awesome. And Manuel, are
[1:42:43] Speaker 2: you at least eighteen? And do you believe that Jesus
[1:42:46] Speaker 2: is the Messiah.
[1:42:50] Speaker 4: Yeah, I do.
[1:42:50] Speaker 2: Yeah, And why is that?
[1:42:56] Speaker 5: Oh?
[1:42:57] Speaker 24: Because I read it in the Bible and I was
[1:43:00] Speaker 24: raising the Christian faith.
[1:43:02] Speaker 2: Why should we believe that the New Testament is true?
[1:43:10] Speaker 24: Because I think the New Testament is true? Because I
[1:43:18] Speaker 24: think if the Bible is not true, how do you
[1:43:22] Speaker 24: know what other historical documents are are true and not true?
[1:43:26] Speaker 24: So I think everybody has to know, you know, if
[1:43:30] Speaker 24: the I think the Bible is the foundation for truth.
[1:43:35] Speaker 2: Yeah, we agree that the Hebrew Bible is true, But
[1:43:39] Speaker 2: why should I believe that the New Testament is true?
[1:43:43] Speaker 24: Okay? So that's that's why you're getting your claim of
[1:43:47] Speaker 24: Messiah from Okay.
[1:43:49] Speaker 5: Indeed, because.
[1:43:54] Speaker 24: Micah says that he was born in Bethlehem.
[1:43:57] Speaker 1: Oh are you born Bethlehem?
[1:43:59] Speaker 13: No, it doesn't say he's anything about him being born
[1:44:01] Speaker 13: in Bethlehem. I don't see that in Micah five two. Here,
[1:44:07] Speaker 13: let's see.
[1:44:08] Speaker 1: No, I'm looking at right now.
[1:44:09] Speaker 13: Do say anything about one being born in Bethlehem?
[1:44:13] Speaker 5: Oh?
[1:44:13] Speaker 12: It is, it is in.
[1:44:16] Speaker 24: It is from from from you Bethlehem, will will come,
[1:44:21] Speaker 24: will come ruler a king?
[1:44:27] Speaker 1: Yeah, but not born in Bethlehem.
[1:44:29] Speaker 2: Yes, I understand how one could think that.
[1:44:33] Speaker 24: Okay, right, okay, right, okay, it's another claim. I think
[1:44:37] Speaker 24: Jesus was black and you're white.
[1:44:39] Speaker 1: So Jesus was neither black nor white.
[1:44:43] Speaker 2: Jesus wasn't the messiahs. It didn't really matter what his
[1:44:45] Speaker 2: skin color was. There's not two messiahs.
[1:44:50] Speaker 24: Yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right, okay, right, Well, what's
[1:44:55] Speaker 24: what's the proof that you are the Messiah?
[1:44:57] Speaker 2: Well, I've fulfilled many prophecies, and even today on this
[1:45:01] Speaker 2: live stream, I've fulfilled a couple of prophecies in your hearing,
[1:45:04] Speaker 2: and I've even performed a miracle. I turned water into wine,
[1:45:07] Speaker 2: and even the animals come to me. The animals come
[1:45:11] Speaker 2: to hear my preaching. In fact, if you stay long enough,
[1:45:14] Speaker 2: you'll see me fulfill another prophecy. I'm sure of it.
[1:45:19] Speaker 24: All right, okay, right, did you die in the cross?
[1:45:22] Speaker 4: Yeah?
[1:45:23] Speaker 2: Is there a prophecy about dying on a cross?
[1:45:28] Speaker 25: Oh?
[1:45:28] Speaker 24: Wait, sorry, that's the New Testament. Okay, sorry, good mess Saiah.
[1:45:33] Speaker 24: So all right, so you're not even the savior of
[1:45:35] Speaker 24: the world, done though, No.
[1:45:37] Speaker 2: I am the savior of the world. In fact, I'm
[1:45:39] Speaker 2: the Messiah. In fact, I'm fulfilling job twenty seven eleven.
[1:45:42] Speaker 2: Right now, I would teach you concerning the hand of God,
[1:45:45] Speaker 2: that is which the Almighty has not concealed. I'm fulfilling
[1:45:50] Speaker 2: job twenty seven as we speak.
[1:45:54] Speaker 24: All right, okay? And did you create heaven on earth?
[1:45:59] Speaker 26: No?
[1:46:00] Speaker 2: Father did?
[1:46:03] Speaker 20: Oh?
[1:46:04] Speaker 4: Father did?
[1:46:05] Speaker 13: Ok Yeah, Missides doesn't create having an earth.
[1:46:06] Speaker 1: That's not in the hebre Bible.
[1:46:10] Speaker 24: Okay, right, right? So did you did you appear in
[1:46:16] Speaker 24: anywhere in the Old Testament or you know, the pre
[1:46:19] Speaker 24: incarnate Christ.
[1:46:21] Speaker 2: Oh, there's no pre incarnate Christ in the Old Testament.
[1:46:23] Speaker 2: That's a mythology. I'm the Messiah. I'm not God. The
[1:46:30] Speaker 2: Messiah is not God.
[1:46:33] Speaker 24: Oh you're not God.
[1:46:34] Speaker 12: You're right?
[1:46:35] Speaker 7: What what? What?
[1:46:36] Speaker 24: What does Messiah mean? Then, in your understanding, means anointed.
[1:46:43] Speaker 24: So David was being anointed.
[1:46:47] Speaker 2: It just means that you're you're anointed both by the
[1:46:51] Speaker 2: by the actual physical people on the earth, and by
[1:46:54] Speaker 2: the Lord. The Lord selects you for the anointing by
[1:46:57] Speaker 2: oil for your role as either a priest or a king.
[1:47:00] Speaker 2: I'm the priest king.
[1:47:03] Speaker 24: Who annoyed?
[1:47:04] Speaker 12: Did you?
[1:47:06] Speaker 7: Well?
[1:47:06] Speaker 2: Chat had already annoyed to me, probably shoot fifteen years ago?
[1:47:13] Speaker 4: Right, okay?
[1:47:14] Speaker 24: And where where in the oh, yeah, well, I was
[1:47:18] Speaker 24: going to ask for a little testament, doesn't just talk
[1:47:20] Speaker 24: about the Messiah. But then you're yeah, okay, right, no,
[1:47:25] Speaker 24: that's okay. That's that's all I have. So thank thanks
[1:47:28] Speaker 24: very much for your time.
[1:47:30] Speaker 2: Fair enough Manuel, good to hear from you. Cheers, my friend,
[1:47:35] Speaker 2: we nearly got another one for the kingdom just now, friends,
[1:47:37] Speaker 2: he sounded close.
[1:47:38] Speaker 3: I have a I have a testimony of Messiah, Justin
[1:47:42] Speaker 3: because he is the prophet.
[1:47:44] Speaker 4: That's like on to Moses.
[1:47:45] Speaker 3: Because my one of my first Hebrew Bibles ever was
[1:47:49] Speaker 3: given to me by Justin. So I mean that's not
[1:47:54] Speaker 3: fulfilling a prophecy.
[1:47:55] Speaker 5: I don't know what it is.
[1:47:57] Speaker 2: Many ages of go. It's been a long time now, friends,
[1:48:02] Speaker 2: we have more people, We have more future disciples waiting
[1:48:06] Speaker 2: to get in. Sonis great to see you. Thank you
[1:48:09] Speaker 2: for sending out twenty DZ debate membership offerings. I really
[1:48:15] Speaker 2: appreciate that, friend, that's a huge, huge w And also
[1:48:18] Speaker 2: Dan for the same. Thank you for building up treasures
[1:48:21] Speaker 2: in heaven. Dan with twenty DZ Debate memberships, and I
[1:48:25] Speaker 2: have to say the memberships have been off the chain
[1:48:29] Speaker 2: tonight for DZ debates. I don't know what's happening on
[1:48:32] Speaker 2: the horizontal stream today. But apparently they're trying to catch
[1:48:35] Speaker 2: up on memberships, because we've got like one hundred of
[1:48:38] Speaker 2: them already just from today. It's wild and Paul, thank
[1:48:41] Speaker 2: you for the tithe of ten dollars, says I heard
[1:48:43] Speaker 2: Josephus wrote about James's death and the crazy stuff in
[1:48:47] Speaker 2: the apocryphal Acts of Peter. Is there any reliable historical
[1:48:50] Speaker 2: evidence anyone close to Jesus died for claiming the resurrection?
[1:48:55] Speaker 2: Not really. We know they died, We know some people
[1:48:59] Speaker 2: did die, know the nature of their death. We don't
[1:49:02] Speaker 2: know if they were ever given a chance to recant.
[1:49:04] Speaker 2: We don't know if they went to their death because
[1:49:06] Speaker 2: of Jesus. We don't know any of those things. What
[1:49:08] Speaker 2: we do know is that the Romans and others viewed
[1:49:11] Speaker 2: them as rebellious rabble rousers. If you read the writings
[1:49:15] Speaker 2: of the earliest critics like Kelsis and Julian and Porphyry,
[1:49:20] Speaker 2: they weren't getting arrested because they worshiped a different god.
[1:49:23] Speaker 2: They were getting arrested because they were holding unauthorized secret
[1:49:27] Speaker 2: assemblies and declaring a king other than Caesar, which you
[1:49:31] Speaker 2: cannot do, and game Master says, oh, this is amazing.
[1:49:35] Speaker 2: Behold the prophet of Doug rock Hard for Doug stopping
[1:49:38] Speaker 2: wet for Sharon. What a nice fall barbecue. I'll take
[1:49:41] Speaker 2: mind meter well, game Master, you will have it, my friend,
[1:49:44] Speaker 2: Ask and you will will. It will be given to you.
[1:49:47] Speaker 2: Seek my friends, and you will find knock and it
[1:49:51] Speaker 2: will be opened. And last one ties an offering from Randy.
[1:49:55] Speaker 2: Thank you for sending out twenty deconstruction Jump memberships. That
[1:49:59] Speaker 2: is he h, my friend, I really appreciate that. And now,
[1:50:03] Speaker 2: speaking of building up treasures in heaven, let's bring in Rich.
[1:50:11] Speaker 2: Welcome in Rich. Are you at least eighteen and do
[1:50:13] Speaker 2: you believe that Jesus is the Messiah?
[1:50:17] Speaker 4: Yes, sir, I'm eighteen, and I don't believe Jesus is
[1:50:19] Speaker 4: the Messiah, but I do have some.
[1:50:24] Speaker 25: I personally, I think I got some decent arguments against
[1:50:28] Speaker 25: the claim on the screen, which I think is what
[1:50:32] Speaker 25: most people who believe in Jesus is the Messiah. They
[1:50:34] Speaker 25: can't even claim against what you're saying, so it's not
[1:50:37] Speaker 25: even worthy.
[1:50:37] Speaker 2: Were at How would you demonstrate that I am not
[1:50:41] Speaker 2: the Messiah.
[1:50:43] Speaker 25: I'll be honest with you, I personally think you are
[1:50:46] Speaker 25: the Messiah clearly.
[1:50:47] Speaker 3: I mean, I.
[1:50:48] Speaker 4: Personally believe Blessed be Child, Blessed Be.
[1:50:53] Speaker 25: I personally believe on solely what I see, and based
[1:50:56] Speaker 25: on what I see, I'm seeing a Messiah. So I'm
[1:50:58] Speaker 25: not going to argue against you not in the Messiah
[1:51:00] Speaker 25: because you clearly are. Like, who can argue you're not
[1:51:04] Speaker 25: the Messiah?
[1:51:04] Speaker 9: Right?
[1:51:05] Speaker 2: Indeed, I mean who could argue? People have tried today
[1:51:08] Speaker 2: and they've all failed because they are of their father,
[1:51:11] Speaker 2: the devil.
[1:51:14] Speaker 4: Exactly.
[1:51:14] Speaker 9: I would never dare to argue that you're not the Messaiah.
[1:51:17] Speaker 4: I would never dare to. But I will argue against
[1:51:19] Speaker 4: the claims.
[1:51:20] Speaker 9: On the screen if I could, if I could have
[1:51:22] Speaker 9: the you know, the I can't think of the word.
[1:51:27] Speaker 9: Let me just pretend like I didn't forget the word.
[1:51:29] Speaker 2: The first clai.
[1:51:34] Speaker 4: Jesus was a fraud on the Siah.
[1:51:38] Speaker 25: It's not it's not even solely against what's on the screen,
[1:51:42] Speaker 25: but it is solely against against what you.
[1:51:45] Speaker 4: Believe and the majority of what the viewers believe that
[1:51:49] Speaker 4: that are in compliance with you.
[1:51:50] Speaker 1: So it will add out to what do I believe?
[1:51:55] Speaker 9: Obviously, I don't think that you believe that you're able
[1:51:57] Speaker 9: to choose your beliefs.
[1:52:00] Speaker 2: Yeah, but I ask you, what do you think?
[1:52:01] Speaker 5: I believe.
[1:52:04] Speaker 25: I think that you're I think that you believe that
[1:52:06] Speaker 25: we are incapable of choosing our beliefs.
[1:52:14] Speaker 7: Did you have a.
[1:52:17] Speaker 2: Conversation not on the topic? Is that what you thought
[1:52:19] Speaker 2: you were doing?
[1:52:22] Speaker 25: I know it's not directly on topic in terms of
[1:52:24] Speaker 25: what's on the screen, but I think that it is.
[1:52:27] Speaker 25: It's it's it's a subtopic off what's on the screen,
[1:52:30] Speaker 25: because most people will believe X, but there's not evidence
[1:52:34] Speaker 25: for X, and based on that would would also imply
[1:52:38] Speaker 25: that people are choosing to believe in the Messiah. People
[1:52:41] Speaker 25: are reading context and choosing to believe in Jesus and
[1:52:45] Speaker 25: with it.
[1:52:46] Speaker 2: Did you choose to believe I was a Messiah or
[1:52:48] Speaker 2: were you convinced that I was a Messiah.
[1:52:51] Speaker 1: I was convinced by the testimony and the evidence.
[1:52:54] Speaker 2: Indeed, were you convinced that I was a Messiah? Or
[1:52:57] Speaker 2: did you choose to believe I was a Messiah?
[1:53:01] Speaker 3: Personally, I chose to believe, but the evidence is good.
[1:53:05] Speaker 12: I'll give you that.
[1:53:09] Speaker 7: Okay.
[1:53:10] Speaker 2: Well, Rich, thanks for admitting that I am the Messiah
[1:53:14] Speaker 2: and for letting us know that you wanted to detract
[1:53:17] Speaker 2: from the conversation, but we will not be distracted by
[1:53:19] Speaker 2: the children of Satan. So get behind me, Rich, get
[1:53:24] Speaker 2: behind me, and indeed, don't make Doug get you stoned.
[1:53:30] Speaker 2: And Chris, thank you for the twenty dollars offering, says
[1:53:33] Speaker 2: just sown. Just shown to my Christian family. How Christian
[1:53:37] Speaker 2: holidays are named after pagan gods and goddesses and use
[1:53:41] Speaker 2: pagan traditions in their holidays. They are in their debating
[1:53:47] Speaker 2: Why did the super chats go off screen? How did
[1:53:50] Speaker 2: no one? How did I not see this before? Sorry,
[1:53:53] Speaker 2: I moved the super chats at some point during the
[1:53:55] Speaker 2: live stream on the verdict or the horizontal stream. Guys,
[1:53:58] Speaker 2: just shown to my Christian family how Christian howidays are
[1:54:00] Speaker 2: named after pagan gods and goddesses and use pagan traditions
[1:54:03] Speaker 2: in their holidays. They are in their debating reasons and
[1:54:07] Speaker 2: I'm in here praising Doug laffe that, Chris, that's what
[1:54:10] Speaker 2: we need. We want you in here debating, not debating
[1:54:12] Speaker 2: while they're debating, having a good time. We don't have
[1:54:15] Speaker 2: to waste our nonsensical energy on this. I'm already wasting
[1:54:18] Speaker 2: my energy on it. You don't have to waste yours.
[1:54:21] Speaker 2: Thank you so much for the tithe and offering and buzzard.
[1:54:24] Speaker 2: Thank you for sending out ten DZ debate memberships and
[1:54:27] Speaker 2: building up your treasures in heaven. And also, Penelope, great
[1:54:31] Speaker 2: to see you tonight. Thank you for the twenty dollars offering. Disciple. Today,
[1:54:36] Speaker 2: thousands of people saw you change water into wine. Christians
[1:54:39] Speaker 2: prepared to be stoned like a late Harvest Gowertz de
[1:54:43] Speaker 2: Minnor Gowertz Tremner, Niles Crane from Frasier. For justin, it's
[1:54:52] Speaker 2: gouvertstrameanor oh yeah, I would never have gotten that correctly.
[1:54:56] Speaker 2: But just just know, just know that people who accept
[1:55:00] Speaker 2: me on faith will be blessed. For blessed are those
[1:55:04] Speaker 2: who believe and have not seen blessed? Are those all right?
[1:55:08] Speaker 2: Let's get I think it's been ten minutes. We're gonna
[1:55:11] Speaker 2: try Reverend Steve again and see if Reverend Steve is
[1:55:14] Speaker 2: no longer driving. Welcome in, Reverend.
[1:55:18] Speaker 7: Reverend Steve is no longer driving. I am a few
[1:55:23] Speaker 7: steps away from my phone now, so you won't be
[1:55:25] Speaker 7: able to see my face until I get back to it.
[1:55:28] Speaker 7: I'm using a headset I'm oodible, am.
[1:55:34] Speaker 2: I you are audible? Yeah, I can hear you.
[1:55:37] Speaker 7: Excellent, excellent, Reverend Steve.
[1:55:40] Speaker 2: Are you a believer in Jesus being the Messiah?
[1:55:45] Speaker 7: Well, I am an a dined minister Christian minister, so
[1:55:50] Speaker 7: that kind of guy's along with the territory.
[1:55:52] Speaker 4: Sure.
[1:55:53] Speaker 2: Sure. And why would you believe that Jesus is the Messiah?
[1:55:58] Speaker 7: Well, it's interesting. I'm fairly liberal. I'm also a fairly
[1:56:07] Speaker 7: newly ordained minister. I think it's a it's a belief system. Now.
[1:56:20] Speaker 7: I think the question is that are you the Messiah,
[1:56:23] Speaker 7: not whether Jesus was the Messiah. I think whether you
[1:56:28] Speaker 7: are the Messiah or not as independent of whether people
[1:56:32] Speaker 7: believe that Jesus was a Messiah.
[1:56:35] Speaker 2: Well, indeed, I agree. There are two claims on the board.
[1:56:38] Speaker 2: One is that Jesus is a fraud, meaning not the Messiah,
[1:56:41] Speaker 2: and that I am.
[1:56:45] Speaker 7: Okay, So which one would you like me to address first?
[1:56:49] Speaker 2: You can do either, what's your favorite?
[1:56:51] Speaker 7: Well, Jesus was a fraud is an interesting one because
[1:56:56] Speaker 7: I kind of view the Bible is having three parts,
[1:56:59] Speaker 7: not two. So I've got the Old Testament and then
[1:57:01] Speaker 7: the New Testament. I viewer is really being made up
[1:57:04] Speaker 7: of two parts, and roughly speaking, you've got the Synoptic
[1:57:12] Speaker 7: Gospels and the early earlier writings. Hell, let's exclude Paul
[1:57:17] Speaker 7: from this where they're talking about the beliefs of Jesus,
[1:57:21] Speaker 7: and then we have all of we have Paul's writings
[1:57:25] Speaker 7: and everything that builds on that, which are really a
[1:57:29] Speaker 7: different religion, and that's Christianity, which is because Jesus, I
[1:57:35] Speaker 7: think we could agree, could not have been a Christian.
[1:57:38] Speaker 7: He was a Jew. The religion is based on well,
[1:57:44] Speaker 7: it is based on what people said about him and
[1:57:48] Speaker 7: largely based on what Paul said about him, and on that.
[1:57:54] Speaker 7: On that basis, if I can move to you being
[1:57:57] Speaker 7: the Messiah, I don't.
[1:57:58] Speaker 2: Know if we don't think you addressed whether or not
[1:58:01] Speaker 2: Jesus was actually the Messiah.
[1:58:05] Speaker 7: Uh no, I was well, sorry, I was addressing whether
[1:58:09] Speaker 7: Jesus was a fraud.
[1:58:10] Speaker 2: Well, I think he is a fraud because he said
[1:58:12] Speaker 2: things that were untrue, and he also claimed to be
[1:58:15] Speaker 2: the Messiah, and he didn't fulfill a single prophecy, and
[1:58:18] Speaker 2: he directly lied on Psalm eight two and on Isaiah
[1:58:23] Speaker 2: sixty one to one.
[1:58:25] Speaker 7: Yeah, but but those for those you have to take
[1:58:28] Speaker 7: on what people said about him, not what he said.
[1:58:30] Speaker 7: So we don't have any recordings of what he said.
[1:58:32] Speaker 7: So we don't know that Jesus himself was a liar.
[1:58:35] Speaker 2: So we do Do we know anything that he.
[1:58:37] Speaker 7: Said about him? Do we know anything that he said?
[1:58:42] Speaker 7: We can't with absolute certainty know anything that he said.
[1:58:48] Speaker 2: No, so can we know for certain? We have to
[1:58:51] Speaker 2: go a road from the dead.
[1:58:57] Speaker 7: Look, I'm a I'm believed that we can't know anything
[1:58:59] Speaker 7: for it might agree with you things that things are
[1:59:06] Speaker 7: a yeah, various. How how well do things match reality?
[1:59:14] Speaker 7: And I think we could agree that in our reality now,
[1:59:17] Speaker 7: we don't have people rising from the dead unless you
[1:59:21] Speaker 7: include resuscitation the resurrection. Will agree, it's totally different.
[1:59:25] Speaker 2: Things I've done it.
[1:59:29] Speaker 7: Let's call that resuscitation rather than resurrection.
[1:59:33] Speaker 2: Was Jesus resurrecteditated?
[1:59:36] Speaker 7: Well, the the the the the gospels will say he
[1:59:41] Speaker 7: was resurrected.
[1:59:44] Speaker 2: How do how do you know he was because theoretically
[1:59:46] Speaker 2: he was only on the cross for six hours?
[1:59:51] Speaker 7: Yeah, so I think it's I mean, let's let's go
[1:59:55] Speaker 7: with the outside possibilities. If we take the story as
[2:00:00] Speaker 7: it's and when I say the story, let's combine all
[2:00:04] Speaker 7: of the all of the accounts of Jesus on the cross,
[2:00:09] Speaker 7: and let's say he he made a final exclamation whichever
[2:00:15] Speaker 7: one it was, and was stabbed in the side with
[2:00:19] Speaker 7: the sword and and then presumably taken down from the cross.
[2:00:25] Speaker 7: Now it's possible that he could have just been he
[2:00:28] Speaker 7: could have been alive at that point, and it's possible
[2:00:32] Speaker 7: that he could have been alive for something. Let's assume
[2:00:36] Speaker 7: that he wasn't thrown into a into some common grave,
[2:00:39] Speaker 7: and that he was placed in a tomb. And let's
[2:00:43] Speaker 7: say that tomb was fairly cold, because that does help
[2:00:46] Speaker 7: you survive if you're I'm not saying it was cold,
[2:00:49] Speaker 7: but let's assume that it was cold. That that could
[2:00:52] Speaker 7: that could help you survive longer if you're suffering serious injuries.
[2:00:55] Speaker 2: Making pretty good Steve.
[2:00:58] Speaker 7: I don't think that after three is a person who
[2:01:01] Speaker 7: was just injured is going to get up and be
[2:01:02] Speaker 7: walking around the resurrection, is it? Well, No, the claims
[2:01:10] Speaker 7: are that he did, and this is this is something
[2:01:14] Speaker 7: that that I think Christians need to wrestle with. I
[2:01:19] Speaker 7: think we need to look at the facts as we
[2:01:21] Speaker 7: know them today, and I think we need to look
[2:01:23] Speaker 7: at what the Bible says, and we need to make
[2:01:27] Speaker 7: a judgment, and the judgment may be that that it is,
[2:01:37] Speaker 7: to our current knowledge, quite unlikely that by natural means
[2:01:42] Speaker 7: a person would have been on a cross and that
[2:01:46] Speaker 7: badly injured. Presumably if you've been stabbed in the side,
[2:01:50] Speaker 7: it's more than just.
[2:01:50] Speaker 2: A comany if you believe that that's what happened.
[2:01:56] Speaker 7: Yeah, yes, yes, yes, true, true. And that's what I
[2:01:59] Speaker 7: was saying, that there are that we're looking at it. Sorry,
[2:02:04] Speaker 7: we're looking at accounts of what happened, not I mean
[2:02:11] Speaker 7: we could say historical accounts. There's still accounts regardless, and
[2:02:15] Speaker 7: you've got to look at you know, what they all say.
[2:02:18] Speaker 7: And there are contradictions. There are clearly contradictions in the Bible.
[2:02:22] Speaker 7: I believe you've studied the Bible and you're aware of
[2:02:26] Speaker 7: And there's two wedling those, well, probably more than two ways.
[2:02:30] Speaker 7: There's at least two ways of handling those. One of
[2:02:32] Speaker 7: them is to try and have some approach that says, well,
[2:02:35] Speaker 7: let's make up a story that will at both of them.
[2:02:38] Speaker 7: But in many cases you can't. And so you've got
[2:02:41] Speaker 7: to say that in that case you either don't believe
[2:02:43] Speaker 7: either you believe one and not the other. In either case,
[2:02:47] Speaker 7: you've got to say that there's there are problems with
[2:02:49] Speaker 7: the Bible.
[2:02:51] Speaker 2: You sound like you, and there's probably done a little
[2:02:53] Speaker 2: bit of deconstruction work before them.
[2:02:56] Speaker 7: Well, like I say, I'm a it's a fairly liberal
[2:03:02] Speaker 7: a fairly liberal church lab belonged to. And I think
[2:03:06] Speaker 7: there's I think you know, believers have got a it's
[2:03:10] Speaker 7: a belief system, and people don't always base their beliefs
[2:03:16] Speaker 7: on what we can say we can prove at the moment,
[2:03:20] Speaker 7: and as long as as long as people's beliefs don't
[2:03:24] Speaker 7: affect other people negatively, like and there are some Christian
[2:03:29] Speaker 7: movements and other religions as well that that have their
[2:03:34] Speaker 7: their darker sides, certainly, things like keeping things quiet when
[2:03:40] Speaker 7: they when they shouldn't be. I think I can say
[2:03:43] Speaker 7: that without breaking the rules, but in it so so
[2:03:51] Speaker 7: I can't. I can't tell you that Jesus was a fraud.
[2:03:55] Speaker 7: I can't tell you that Jesus was a fraud. I
[2:03:56] Speaker 7: can't tell you that he was a liar. I can't
[2:03:58] Speaker 7: tell you that he spoke exactly the truth. I can
[2:04:00] Speaker 7: say that if you look at the stories of them
[2:04:02] Speaker 7: in the Bible, you can say that some of them
[2:04:04] Speaker 7: are clearly wrong, or they are someone was either confused
[2:04:12] Speaker 7: or was heard or wrong story. So even if we
[2:04:16] Speaker 7: even if you can find one path through the Bible
[2:04:20] Speaker 7: you believe is completely true, you've got to recognize that
[2:04:22] Speaker 7: there are other paths through the Bible which don't contain truth. Mm.
[2:04:27] Speaker 7: And it's just it's a it's it's I mean, I
[2:04:31] Speaker 7: don't like to use the word faith because faith is
[2:04:37] Speaker 7: it's a very mushy topic. People will use faith to
[2:04:42] Speaker 7: describe as a fallback position for anything if you say
[2:04:46] Speaker 7: it's not true or say it's faith. And I think
[2:04:49] Speaker 7: you can't just you can't fall back on mushy things.
[2:04:52] Speaker 7: You've got to fall back on something where you can
[2:04:54] Speaker 7: at least stake your position somewhere.
[2:04:59] Speaker 2: And and when I was a Christian, I was a
[2:05:02] Speaker 2: fairly liberal Christian like yourself. When I was a Christian,
[2:05:06] Speaker 2: I think the dividing line for me was whether or
[2:05:10] Speaker 2: not Christianity was true. And the proof that Christianity would
[2:05:14] Speaker 2: be true was whether or not Jesus was in fact
[2:05:16] Speaker 2: the Messiah from the Hebrew Bible. I think that the
[2:05:20] Speaker 2: basis of Christianity is that he was the prophesied Messiah, right,
[2:05:25] Speaker 2: So if he didn't actually fulfill any of the Messianic prophecies,
[2:05:28] Speaker 2: that means he's not the Messiah, and that means that
[2:05:32] Speaker 2: Christianity's false. And when I read the prophecies that are
[2:05:35] Speaker 2: listed in the New Testament about Jesus, most of them
[2:05:37] Speaker 2: are even prophecies. Some of them are just random, out
[2:05:40] Speaker 2: of context quotations from the Hebrew Bible have nothing to
[2:05:43] Speaker 2: do with Jesus's time period at all, and some of them,
[2:05:47] Speaker 2: like aren't even quoted correctly, like Jesus quotes Psalm eight two,
[2:05:52] Speaker 2: but he quotes it from a bad translation from the
[2:05:54] Speaker 2: Greek septuagen This is when he cleanses the temple, he
[2:05:58] Speaker 2: talks about the children bringing then he quotes saw me too.
[2:06:01] Speaker 2: But he he is clear he doesn't know what's in
[2:06:04] Speaker 2: the Hebrew Bible, because this is one of the instances
[2:06:06] Speaker 2: where the Hebrew Bible and the Greek scept two agent
[2:06:08] Speaker 2: differ greatly. And you would think that an actual Hebrew
[2:06:13] Speaker 2: rabbi would know what was in the Hebrew Bible for
[2:06:15] Speaker 2: this particular instance, rather than the Greek subtuo agent.
[2:06:20] Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I think you raised old points, and
[2:06:23] Speaker 7: I think it's only with sort of I guess modern technology,
[2:06:28] Speaker 7: I mean the Internet. We've got access to far more
[2:06:30] Speaker 7: information than we would have even had if we just
[2:06:32] Speaker 7: had this stuff written in books because there's more people
[2:06:35] Speaker 7: talking about it, and that didn't exist at the time
[2:06:39] Speaker 7: of Jesus. And I think you could you could probably
[2:06:42] Speaker 7: get away with saying that you were a well, you
[2:06:45] Speaker 7: could get away with people saying that you were something
[2:06:48] Speaker 7: that you weren't because there were fewer people to check
[2:06:51] Speaker 7: on whether you were right or not. And so I'm
[2:06:56] Speaker 7: not certain that Jesus claimed to be the Messiah, and
[2:07:03] Speaker 7: I'm also not certain that you could tell that in
[2:07:07] Speaker 7: the time, you could even tell whether he was the Messiah.
[2:07:10] Speaker 7: And I think you can only tell that someone's a
[2:07:11] Speaker 7: messiah in in retrospect, because there's plenty of people who've
[2:07:15] Speaker 7: made claims and have had believers of things which have
[2:07:19] Speaker 7: seemingly turned out to be false.
[2:07:23] Speaker 2: So remember what the disciples said when they when they
[2:07:27] Speaker 2: were discovering Jesus, as we have found the Messiah.
[2:07:33] Speaker 7: Yeah, and they may they may have believed that, and
[2:07:37] Speaker 7: if he was, if he was a Messiah, that that
[2:07:39] Speaker 7: may be true. Yeah, is this is this exactly what
[2:07:43] Speaker 7: they said? Let's let's assume it was. And if he
[2:07:47] Speaker 7: did rise from the dead, then there are some indications
[2:07:54] Speaker 7: that that there is you know, that would be some
[2:07:56] Speaker 7: strong evidence that, well, something was going on. If he
[2:08:01] Speaker 7: did actually rise from the dead.
[2:08:03] Speaker 2: Well, I'm not sure that that is the case, that
[2:08:07] Speaker 2: he rose from the dead. But on the claim of
[2:08:08] Speaker 2: the Messiah. You know, when he asked Simon, Peter, who
[2:08:11] Speaker 2: do you think I am? He says, you are the Messiah,
[2:08:13] Speaker 2: the son of the Living God. And Jesus answered him,
[2:08:15] Speaker 2: blessed are you, Simon, son of Jonah, For flesh and
[2:08:18] Speaker 2: blood has not revealed this to you, but my father
[2:08:21] Speaker 2: in heaven. So Jesus does seem to be in agreement
[2:08:24] Speaker 2: with Peter that he is the Messiah. And I'll tell
[2:08:29] Speaker 2: you this. You know, you've probably read some of the
[2:08:30] Speaker 2: early disputations by their church fathers. One of the more
[2:08:33] Speaker 2: famous ones is Origin's dispute disputation with Kelsus, and Kelsis
[2:08:38] Speaker 2: makes the claim that there were a lot of people
[2:08:40] Speaker 2: from the Greco Roman world that rose from the dead
[2:08:44] Speaker 2: and that Jesus is not unique. And Origin's response was
[2:08:48] Speaker 2: a yes, that may be true. Like if you accept
[2:08:50] Speaker 2: the claims of the Bible, then it would make sense
[2:08:53] Speaker 2: to accept these other claims as well, he goes, But
[2:08:57] Speaker 2: the difference between Jesus and these other character is that
[2:09:00] Speaker 2: Jesus was prophesied in the Hebrew Bible to do all
[2:09:04] Speaker 2: these things. That's what makes them unique. But the reality is, like,
[2:09:08] Speaker 2: there's nothing in the Hebrew Bible that would lead one
[2:09:10] Speaker 2: to believe that that is the case. But we've got
[2:09:11] Speaker 2: lots of ancient accounts of people resurrecting from the dead. Arcestis,
[2:09:16] Speaker 2: Aristeus Nero, even Ramses the Second supposedly went down to
[2:09:20] Speaker 2: Shiel and came and resurrected and came back.
[2:09:24] Speaker 7: Yeah, I think some of those we can we can
[2:09:26] Speaker 7: just count because I think we're fair. We're fairly certain
[2:09:30] Speaker 7: now that their impostors involved in that. But regardless of that, Ramsey,
[2:09:36] Speaker 7: in fact, let's let let's say, let's let's say let's
[2:09:40] Speaker 7: let's include the uh, the impostors. I think imposts are
[2:09:47] Speaker 7: very good way of or faking your own death. Now,
[2:09:54] Speaker 7: I don't think that Jesus could have faked his death
[2:09:58] Speaker 7: if the stories are correct, but impostas certainly on out
[2:10:03] Speaker 7: of the question.
[2:10:03] Speaker 2: So that's my theory. Actually, I believe there was an impostor,
[2:10:06] Speaker 2: just like there was with Nero. There was at least
[2:10:08] Speaker 2: six no Nero impostors, and they were famous even decades
[2:10:14] Speaker 2: after his death. So he died in sixty eight, but
[2:10:16] Speaker 2: even in the eighties and early nineties, people were still
[2:10:19] Speaker 2: being the impostor Nero, convincing many people. And we read
[2:10:23] Speaker 2: about this so and the Bible tells you in Mark
[2:10:26] Speaker 2: thirteen and in the other Gospels, in the All of
[2:10:29] Speaker 2: It Discourse, he says many will come in my name,
[2:10:31] Speaker 2: claiming that I am he. The gospel authors seemed to
[2:10:35] Speaker 2: be indicating that there were, in fact people claiming to
[2:10:38] Speaker 2: be the resurrect to Jesus. I find no reason to
[2:10:41] Speaker 2: believe that it wasn't just an impostor, like we see
[2:10:43] Speaker 2: with all the cases before him.
[2:10:45] Speaker 7: That is really interesting. That is really interesting because when
[2:10:49] Speaker 7: I say many will come and we died, I mean
[2:10:54] Speaker 7: if that was written beforehand, we don't have evidence for many.
[2:10:58] Speaker 7: We have evidence, well have evidence for one. And I
[2:11:05] Speaker 7: think personally, I think if I was going to be
[2:11:09] Speaker 7: an impostor, I would pick someone other than Jesus because
[2:11:12] Speaker 7: I'm likely to be likely to get a fairly rough
[2:11:16] Speaker 7: treatment from the Romans. But ignoring that there was. Can
[2:11:21] Speaker 7: we can we can we say that if there was
[2:11:23] Speaker 7: an impossible there was did Jesus lie? Again, we don't
[2:11:29] Speaker 7: know what he what he said. Did the people who
[2:11:31] Speaker 7: were writing about him lie? They may they may have lied,
[2:11:35] Speaker 7: They may have been misinformed, they may have Well, if
[2:11:38] Speaker 7: you look at the at the various Synoptic Gospels and
[2:11:44] Speaker 7: even other writings outside of the Bible, people have their
[2:11:46] Speaker 7: own reasons for writing things. And you know John, for example,
[2:11:52] Speaker 7: which is not a gospel but is clearly has a
[2:11:57] Speaker 7: has a is written with a purpose. It's it's written
[2:12:02] Speaker 7: with a purpose to say that Jesus was God. And
[2:12:06] Speaker 7: it puts its entire emphasis on on that we agree
[2:12:11] Speaker 7: there which is and and that gospel does not agree
[2:12:16] Speaker 7: with the with the Synoptic Gospels. And so how much
[2:12:21] Speaker 7: how much can we? How much can we look? We
[2:12:25] Speaker 7: could go through every book of the Bible, Old Testament,
[2:12:27] Speaker 7: New Testament, and we could find reasons to say, let's
[2:12:30] Speaker 7: toss this one out. We start with Genesis. We could say, well,
[2:12:33] Speaker 7: that doesn't align with our knowledge of cosmology, it doesn't
[2:12:39] Speaker 7: align with evolution. Toss that out. And we could go
[2:12:43] Speaker 7: right the way through to a Revelation of John and
[2:12:51] Speaker 7: ignoring the fact that it was probably about Rome, and
[2:12:56] Speaker 7: and and see, we agree that we could we could find,
[2:13:00] Speaker 7: we could find, we could find many things that let's
[2:13:02] Speaker 7: assume that it was written about the end times, we
[2:13:05] Speaker 7: could probably find a lot of things that are at
[2:13:09] Speaker 7: least unlikely. A cubic mile of gold landing on the
[2:13:13] Speaker 7: earth would probably vaporize with the heat of reentry.
[2:13:19] Speaker 2: Question, what would be a good reason to believe that
[2:13:22] Speaker 2: Jesus was the predicted Messiah from the Hebrew Bible?
[2:13:30] Speaker 7: Okay? Can I put that into Let's put that in
[2:13:33] Speaker 7: a couple of time periods. I think if you were
[2:13:36] Speaker 7: to live in the first, say, first or fourth century,
[2:13:47] Speaker 7: there would have been lots of stories about him, and
[2:13:52] Speaker 7: if you believe those stories, then you would you may
[2:13:55] Speaker 7: you may believe that he was a Messiah, and you
[2:13:57] Speaker 7: may just believe it based on those stories. And if
[2:14:00] Speaker 7: there are lots of believers around you and you're brought
[2:14:02] Speaker 7: up that way, you would just believe it just based
[2:14:05] Speaker 7: on essentially indoctrination from your parents if you're born. Let's
[2:14:13] Speaker 7: ignore the Middle period, let's come up to today today.
[2:14:18] Speaker 7: I think indoctrination is a large part of it. I mean,
[2:14:20] Speaker 7: your religion largely depends on where you were born and
[2:14:25] Speaker 7: who your parents were, and those people who come to
[2:14:31] Speaker 7: Christ later in life tend to be those people who
[2:14:37] Speaker 7: will read, who read or hear information and make a
[2:14:45] Speaker 7: decision based on what they've heard where they believe that
[2:14:49] Speaker 7: information is correct.
[2:14:51] Speaker 2: Well, let me rephrase the question. If I'm a first
[2:14:54] Speaker 2: entry Jew and I believe that the Old Testament of Scripture,
[2:15:01] Speaker 2: and this Jesus guy shows up, why would I believe
[2:15:05] Speaker 2: that he is the Messiah predicted by the Hebrew Bible?
[2:15:08] Speaker 2: What indicators would I use?
[2:15:16] Speaker 7: I guess what you would be looking at? You? You
[2:15:18] Speaker 7: would be looking at your understanding of those writings or
[2:15:24] Speaker 7: oral tradition that you have access to. In the first century,
[2:15:28] Speaker 7: you're not going to have access to You're probably not
[2:15:32] Speaker 7: going to have access to any collected writing. You're probably illiterate,
[2:15:39] Speaker 7: So I guess if there, If you're illiterate, you're just
[2:15:42] Speaker 7: going to be relying on the stories of others. So
[2:15:44] Speaker 7: let's let's look at if you're illiterate Hebrew, let's subscribe.
[2:15:51] Speaker 2: Let's say describe I have access to the text and
[2:15:54] Speaker 2: I read it.
[2:15:56] Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, so you're a literate scribe rather than a
[2:15:58] Speaker 7: scribe who just is a text by like, and.
[2:16:03] Speaker 2: We agree there was a lot of scribes that copied
[2:16:05] Speaker 2: it and couldn't read it.
[2:16:06] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[2:16:07] Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm including some that sort of copied across columns
[2:16:11] Speaker 7: and things like that. So, yes, assuming you're literate and
[2:16:17] Speaker 7: you can read read this this stuff, you're still you're
[2:16:20] Speaker 7: you're then going to be You're going to be basing
[2:16:22] Speaker 7: your decision on the information that you have. And I
[2:16:26] Speaker 7: find it hard to believe that anyone is going to
[2:16:28] Speaker 7: have a complete set of information. I mean, I think
[2:16:33] Speaker 7: even some of the books of the Old Testament weren't
[2:16:36] Speaker 7: weren't sort of laid in stone at that point.
[2:16:39] Speaker 2: True, is there anything in the Hebrew Bible that would
[2:16:43] Speaker 2: point me to the direction of Jesus being the messam?
[2:16:48] Speaker 7: If we look at the current Old Testament, if you
[2:16:52] Speaker 7: had access to that in it, and that's what you
[2:16:54] Speaker 7: and that's what you're I think you would have your doubts.
[2:16:58] Speaker 7: I can't say that there weren't other writings or other
[2:17:01] Speaker 7: versions of those writings that may have lent some more
[2:17:05] Speaker 7: credence to Jesus. And and you know, look, I think
[2:17:13] Speaker 7: people then were probably very similar to people today in
[2:17:18] Speaker 7: that maybe a new idea would just be picked up
[2:17:21] Speaker 7: as Hey, this is something new, I'm going to follow it.
[2:17:29] Speaker 7: And so I think that some people, even literic people,
[2:17:33] Speaker 7: might have said, this sounds new, this sounds exciting, We're
[2:17:38] Speaker 7: going to follow it. And if I can, if I
[2:17:40] Speaker 7: can pivot, if I can pivot to Pau for exactle, I.
[2:17:44] Speaker 2: Guess I didn't hear the answer to the question I'm
[2:17:46] Speaker 2: trying to figure out. Sorry, if I'm a Jew who's
[2:17:49] Speaker 2: knowledgeable of the Hebrew Bible, why would I think that
[2:17:52] Speaker 2: Jesus is a Messaiam?
[2:17:55] Speaker 7: I think you would. You would have to be weighing
[2:17:58] Speaker 7: what you read in the what you read in the
[2:18:01] Speaker 7: Hebrew Bible against what you see happening. But when I agree,
[2:18:07] Speaker 7: if you're probably basically on accounts of things, because you know,
[2:18:10] Speaker 7: I agree, that wouldn't have been following this guy Aram
[2:18:15] Speaker 7: if you if you're a disciple, it's a bit different.
[2:18:18] Speaker 7: But I can't imagine that the disciples, all disciples were
[2:18:21] Speaker 7: with him for every moment of.
[2:18:24] Speaker 3: So I might be able to help this conversation along
[2:18:27] Speaker 3: a little bit, because like it sounds to me like
[2:18:30] Speaker 3: what Rev Is saying is that he doesn't really think
[2:18:33] Speaker 3: that there is incredible reasons to believe Jesus is the Messiah.
[2:18:37] Speaker 3: It sounds to me like this is kind of a
[2:18:39] Speaker 3: It could go either way, and so maybe the better
[2:18:42] Speaker 3: way to ask what we're trying to get at is like,
[2:18:46] Speaker 3: why do you believe that Christ, that.
[2:18:49] Speaker 5: That Jesus is?
[2:18:52] Speaker 3: Like what what would convince you? Personally?
[2:18:59] Speaker 7: That is an absolutely excellent question. And I don't know whether.
[2:19:17] Speaker 7: It's very hard to say where my beliefs came from.
[2:19:27] Speaker 7: So if I was to put myself in the shoes
[2:19:29] Speaker 7: of a person who had no knowledge or in fact,
[2:19:35] Speaker 7: then maybe I could be convinced by stories. And I'm
[2:19:38] Speaker 7: dodging this question right because honestly, I don't know. I
[2:19:45] Speaker 7: can't tell you exactly where what my beliefs are founded on.
[2:19:51] Speaker 7: And if I can give this analogy, if I was
[2:19:54] Speaker 7: to believe nothing and I was read the Bible, I
[2:19:59] Speaker 7: might believe it based on that and that that that
[2:20:01] Speaker 7: comes into indoctrination as a as a child. If I
[2:20:05] Speaker 7: was unaware of all of the books of the Bible
[2:20:09] Speaker 7: and unaware of contradictions, I might believe it's a consistent story.
[2:20:16] Speaker 7: My beliefs are more more based on my I guess
[2:20:21] Speaker 7: it's it's it's based on a life, lifetime of exposure.
[2:20:28] Speaker 7: I guess it's very hard to to give a to
[2:20:31] Speaker 7: give a reason, an honest reason, to say why why
[2:20:34] Speaker 7: someone believes unless there is a fact, a single fact
[2:20:39] Speaker 7: or a single set of facts that that you say,
[2:20:41] Speaker 7: that that you have contemplated and said, well, these are
[2:20:44] Speaker 7: the things which which convinced me. I mean, I could
[2:20:47] Speaker 7: come up with a whole lot of reasons that I
[2:20:53] Speaker 7: think people could believe, but that's that's apologetics, right that.
[2:20:59] Speaker 3: Okay, So so with that, then, like I get you know,
[2:21:04] Speaker 3: all of our beliefs are shaped by a multitude of factors,
[2:21:08] Speaker 3: some that we can't you know, maybe necessarily put our
[2:21:11] Speaker 3: finger on. But it's going on, right. But I guess
[2:21:14] Speaker 3: you know, for me, when it comes to like an explicit,
[2:21:17] Speaker 3: conscious belief in something, you know, I know that part
[2:21:21] Speaker 3: of the reason that I'm an atheist is because you know,
[2:21:25] Speaker 3: I've I mean, you know, except for worshiping dug and
[2:21:27] Speaker 3: all those guys. But you know, part of the reason
[2:21:29] Speaker 3: that I, like I would say I don't accept that
[2:21:31] Speaker 3: Jesus is the Messiah is because I think that that's
[2:21:36] Speaker 3: the most reasonable thing to believe given the evidence, right,
[2:21:40] Speaker 3: I think it's most reasonable for me not to accept
[2:21:44] Speaker 3: those claims as being true. They don't seem true to me.
[2:21:46] Speaker 3: They don't see again, you know, things like contradictions in
[2:21:50] Speaker 3: the Bible, right, and stuff like that. You know it
[2:21:53] Speaker 3: it lowers the validity in my likelihood of thinking that
[2:21:57] Speaker 3: something the Bible says I can't verify is also true.
[2:22:00] Speaker 3: Claims about Jesus being the Messiah and whatever, and so like,
[2:22:05] Speaker 3: if you don't think that believing Jesus is the Messiah
[2:22:08] Speaker 3: is the most reasonable thing to believe based on the evidence,
[2:22:13] Speaker 3: I mean, shouldn't you just not believe it?
[2:22:18] Speaker 7: I think that's that's a that's a perfectly rational situation
[2:22:23] Speaker 7: to put yourself in. I think the problem is that
[2:22:25] Speaker 7: people aren't rational. We do agree there, because yeah, I've
[2:22:33] Speaker 7: I've spoken to a lot of obviously, I've spoken to
[2:22:36] Speaker 7: a lot of Christians, and I've been told a lot
[2:22:39] Speaker 7: of reasons why or the reasons that they give for believing,
[2:22:43] Speaker 7: and quite frankly, most of them I think are either
[2:22:52] Speaker 7: poorly thought out or that may be just the first
[2:22:56] Speaker 7: thing that comes into their mind because they feel like
[2:22:58] Speaker 7: they want to tell a story or and I think
[2:23:04] Speaker 7: that's that's a vast majority of them, frankly, or if
[2:23:08] Speaker 7: they're being honest, and then it's a really deep, deeply
[2:23:13] Speaker 7: felt thing. It's probably coming back to indoctrination and a
[2:23:17] Speaker 7: lack of access to to information. Yeah, I think all
[2:23:20] Speaker 7: religion is highly nuanced. We agree, Steve contains.
[2:23:27] Speaker 2: Steve, I think you and I agree more than we disagree,
[2:23:31] Speaker 2: and we really appreciate talking to people that are like
[2:23:35] Speaker 2: level headed and honest about these things. Steve, you've been
[2:23:39] Speaker 2: like a breath of fresh air to actually listen to.
[2:23:42] Speaker 2: Usually I don't let guests, uh uh not answer questions,
[2:23:46] Speaker 2: but I mean, you're really nice.
[2:23:47] Speaker 7: Sorry, was I was I proselytizing a little, No, you
[2:23:49] Speaker 7: weren't proselytizing.
[2:23:51] Speaker 2: But no, Steve, you're You're a really nice guy, and
[2:23:53] Speaker 2: we appreciate your honesty. I think, you know, honesty is
[2:23:57] Speaker 2: the beginning of the deconstruction journey. And you know, some
[2:24:00] Speaker 2: people deconstruct and they still remain in the faith, and
[2:24:03] Speaker 2: some people don't. I think it's important that even if
[2:24:06] Speaker 2: you deconstruct and you remain in the faith, that you're
[2:24:08] Speaker 2: honest with your position, which is that it's it's not
[2:24:11] Speaker 2: one of reason and evidence. It's one of you know,
[2:24:15] Speaker 2: perhaps maybe even in doctrination, maybe I don't know, maybe
[2:24:22] Speaker 2: just something in you still finds it partially convincing and
[2:24:27] Speaker 2: you haven't let go of it yet. But unfortunately add
[2:24:31] Speaker 2: something to that.
[2:24:32] Speaker 7: I think that religious leaders also need to accept that
[2:24:35] Speaker 7: people will deconstruct and those people aren't evil or bad,
[2:24:39] Speaker 7: and that the things that you thought were good of
[2:24:42] Speaker 7: them before probably not any different. And you know, I
[2:24:49] Speaker 7: have some suspicions that many of the Christians I know
[2:24:52] Speaker 7: perhaps not as steadfast in their beliefs that they professor,
[2:24:57] Speaker 7: and I wouldn't treat them an different. If they're trying
[2:25:02] Speaker 7: to be good people, then that's probably the most important thing. Now,
[2:25:06] Speaker 7: Can I just have just a couple of seconds just
[2:25:08] Speaker 7: to talk about you being the Messiah? Look, I don't
[2:25:13] Speaker 7: know whether you're the Messiah or not. I have my doubts.
[2:25:18] Speaker 7: I understand that you you've fulfilled some prophecy I've heard that.
[2:25:24] Speaker 7: I think the proofs, as it would be for Jesus,
[2:25:28] Speaker 7: is what is recorded afterwards and what people can do
[2:25:30] Speaker 7: when they look after you after you've done your works
[2:25:35] Speaker 7: and whatever miracles. I believe you're going to turn some
[2:25:37] Speaker 7: wine into water later on. I just I just want
[2:25:48] Speaker 7: to make sure that you put all your things down
[2:25:51] Speaker 7: in writing in a way that's preserved, so that we
[2:25:53] Speaker 7: don't later on have some someone, some Christian jimbob who
[2:25:59] Speaker 7: falls off a horse and and claims and and and
[2:26:04] Speaker 7: then what changes your religion to something different? Look, I
[2:26:10] Speaker 7: was I was talking about that the two parts of
[2:26:12] Speaker 7: the Old New Testament, Paul to some extent, Paul won
[2:26:17] Speaker 7: over Jesus because both Paul and Jesus are heretics in
[2:26:21] Speaker 7: each other's eyes.
[2:26:22] Speaker 2: In some in some positions, Jesus would not have liked
[2:26:25] Speaker 2: Paul at all.
[2:26:28] Speaker 7: Yeah, and I think many modern Christians wouldn't have liked
[2:26:32] Speaker 7: Jesus and possibly not Paul either, so that that that
[2:26:40] Speaker 7: is really problematic. I think for people who've read a lot.
[2:26:43] Speaker 2: Well, the good news is all this is documented on
[2:26:46] Speaker 2: the Internet forever. So as long as Googles and TikTok
[2:26:50] Speaker 2: servers don't go down, we're I think we're good.
[2:26:53] Speaker 13: I about to say we've we've kind of wind up
[2:26:55] Speaker 13: when it comes to like video.
[2:26:58] Speaker 7: Mm hmm, well maybe if we video the Third Coming
[2:27:03] Speaker 7: of Christ that will be useful. But thank you very
[2:27:13] Speaker 7: much for letting me take up so much of your time.
[2:27:16] Speaker 2: Steve, your nice game. We appreciate you and.
[2:27:20] Speaker 7: Have an excellent Halloween where I am now at the moment.
[2:27:24] Speaker 7: Halloween last night and we had a total of one
[2:27:28] Speaker 7: person come to our house.
[2:27:31] Speaker 2: They've got a lot of candy, I assume.
[2:27:35] Speaker 7: Well, unfortunately they didn't because we didn't realize that were
[2:27:37] Speaker 7: going to be the only person. Otherwise we would have
[2:27:39] Speaker 7: given them the whole bag. Now we have a large
[2:27:40] Speaker 7: bag of candy that I don't eat. I get that's
[2:27:46] Speaker 7: what we're going to do with it. Yes, and today
[2:27:50] Speaker 7: I'm here at the Perth Artifactory a make a space
[2:27:53] Speaker 7: in Perth, Western Australia. I'd likely to say it's a
[2:27:56] Speaker 7: great place for all of your listeners who might be
[2:27:59] Speaker 7: in waste in Australia.
[2:28:02] Speaker 2: We actually do have some some friends from Australia. They'll
[2:28:05] Speaker 2: probably be saying hi in the chat in a minute.
[2:28:06] Speaker 2: But Steve, it was great to talk to you. You're
[2:28:08] Speaker 2: a really nice guy. We we wish the best for you,
[2:28:11] Speaker 2: and thanks for being honest and kind.
[2:28:14] Speaker 7: And thank you as well for not musing me when
[2:28:19] Speaker 7: I went off topic.
[2:28:20] Speaker 2: No, it's okay. We only meet people that require muting.
[2:28:23] Speaker 2: Because they're unbearable.
[2:28:26] Speaker 7: Have an excellent evening.
[2:28:28] Speaker 2: Cheers friends, w Steve, that's the man who's read his book, right.
[2:28:36] Speaker 22: Yeah.
[2:28:36] Speaker 4: True.
[2:28:37] Speaker 2: But by the way, Dalton, have you received word from
[2:28:41] Speaker 2: the Lord yet? And whether or not you're gonna read yours?
[2:28:44] Speaker 13: Everyone keeps telling me how much they like the Cherubim
[2:28:48] Speaker 13: of not my Cherabic face. Okay, okay, scene, although while
[2:28:54] Speaker 13: y'all were talking, I found something I thought you would
[2:28:56] Speaker 13: like and my manners and customs of Bible time. There's
[2:29:01] Speaker 13: a little line here of says Elhanan, the son of
[2:29:04] Speaker 13: the of a Bethlem height killed Goliath a gets Height
[2:29:08] Speaker 13: the chapter whose spear was like a weavers rod. This
[2:29:10] Speaker 13: is so so much to David, son of a son
[2:29:12] Speaker 13: of an effort Ephrathite a Bethlehem who killed Goliath of
[2:29:16] Speaker 13: Gath that some wonder if David was the coronation name
[2:29:20] Speaker 13: and Elhannon the original name.
[2:29:23] Speaker 4: Okay.
[2:29:23] Speaker 2: If you say customs, there's always an apologetic. Uh, I'm
[2:29:31] Speaker 2: never I'm never not surprised by an apologetic There's no
[2:29:34] Speaker 2: limit to what they could be. And that's how you
[2:29:36] Speaker 2: know that they're apologetic is that every problem with the
[2:29:39] Speaker 2: Bible has ten different apologetics and nobody can agree on
[2:29:42] Speaker 2: what the real answer to them are.
[2:29:45] Speaker 7: Yeah, I was.
[2:29:47] Speaker 3: I was on Darth giving him a contradiction a little
[2:29:52] Speaker 3: while ago now, and every apologetic he came up with contradicted,
[2:29:57] Speaker 3: like the last apologetic he gave for it, you know what,
[2:30:00] Speaker 3: So you'll get this whole string of apologetics and when
[2:30:02] Speaker 3: one doesn't work, they go to another one, but like
[2:30:04] Speaker 3: the next apologetic completely like refuse what you were just
[2:30:07] Speaker 3: arguing before.
[2:30:08] Speaker 1: So like you got to find.
[2:30:12] Speaker 13: You got you got Gary to talk about the Bible.
[2:30:14] Speaker 13: You lucky Doug, Well, that's crazy.
[2:30:17] Speaker 3: He knew I would stay if if he didn't.
[2:30:19] Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't have patience to deal with Gary,
[2:30:24] Speaker 2: but I'm glad that you do. Let me grab just
[2:30:26] Speaker 2: a couple times in offerings. We're gonna get Ali King
[2:30:30] Speaker 2: call me in here next Spookily wet for Sharon this evening, Yes,
[2:30:35] Speaker 2: that would be the correct, the correct thing this evening.
[2:30:39] Speaker 2: It is Halloween at least for where most people are
[2:30:42] Speaker 2: so happy Halloween and uh you know, happy end of Spooktober.
[2:30:47] Speaker 2: Adam says, I am one of many rock hard for Doug.
[2:30:50] Speaker 2: Indeed you are, Adam, and I really appreciate you for
[2:30:53] Speaker 2: being here, and uh oh C says, looking for a
[2:30:56] Speaker 2: sign from the prophet, please turn this donation into cracking
[2:31:00] Speaker 2: rock hard for Doug and I will.
[2:31:04] Speaker 4: Later.
[2:31:04] Speaker 2: I have two adobable kittens right now that are manifesting
[2:31:09] Speaker 2: the as much love as the world has to offer
[2:31:12] Speaker 2: right now, and I wouldn't darey get them up and
[2:31:15] Speaker 2: disturb their sleep. But thank you, O s. I hope
[2:31:17] Speaker 2: you're doing well. There will be some manifestations during the
[2:31:20] Speaker 2: stream still yet, I'm sure. And Gretchen, thank you for
[2:31:22] Speaker 2: the thirteen eleven building those treasures in heaven. My friend
[2:31:25] Speaker 2: says missile justin. Have you enough baby paste and pretzels
[2:31:29] Speaker 2: to feed your disciples? I do, In fact, I've got
[2:31:32] Speaker 2: a freezer full of pretzels and spicy mustard downstairs. If not,
[2:31:36] Speaker 2: please do that multiply trick so we can all be
[2:31:39] Speaker 2: filled with with Doug's spirit, aimm rock card for dog,
[2:31:44] Speaker 2: horizontal for life, and baby paste.
[2:31:46] Speaker 7: Well.
[2:31:48] Speaker 2: I haven't decided whether or I'm going to be multiplying
[2:31:51] Speaker 2: real pretzels, but I will be multiplying spiritual pretzels by
[2:31:55] Speaker 2: turning Christians into them, and that should be the sign.
[2:31:59] Speaker 2: My friend and Excess brother, is great to see you.
[2:32:01] Speaker 2: Thank you for the eleven and eleven so that I
[2:32:03] Speaker 2: recognize you as the secondary fulfillment foretold in the Book
[2:32:06] Speaker 2: of Reinterpretations. Indeed that is the case. Please accept my
[2:32:10] Speaker 2: humble ties and offerings rock hard drug blessings to you,
[2:32:13] Speaker 2: Excess brother. Be well, my child, be well, and I'm
[2:32:18] Speaker 2: gonna grab one more tithes and offering. We'll get our
[2:32:21] Speaker 2: next guest in here, doctor Fudge. Great to see you,
[2:32:25] Speaker 2: my friend, as the Messiah. Do you stand at the
[2:32:28] Speaker 2: same level as Doug or are you Doug in the flesh?
[2:32:32] Speaker 2: Does quadrinity now become a quintity? No, no, no, I
[2:32:37] Speaker 2: am not God. I stand below Doug. I am the
[2:32:40] Speaker 2: prophet and the Messiah of Doug and Sharon Stone. But
[2:32:44] Speaker 2: I am not co equal with them.
[2:32:46] Speaker 1: Certainly not love me some quintities, you know.
[2:32:50] Speaker 2: Indeed, Yeah, and remember Doug and Sharon were prophesied in
[2:32:56] Speaker 2: the Hebrew Bible. In fact, if we go all the
[2:32:59] Speaker 2: way back to Josea four twelve, the Lord says, my
[2:33:04] Speaker 2: people shall consult a piece of wood. Amen. Amen. Deuteronomy
[2:33:08] Speaker 2: four twenty eight. There you will serve God's objects of
[2:33:11] Speaker 2: wood and stone, a Doug, A Doug, it's right there
[2:33:16] Speaker 2: in the Hebrew Bible. All right, let's get Ali from
[2:33:20] Speaker 2: the TikTok Q and we'll keep the conversation rolling. Maybe
[2:33:36] Speaker 2: if I can connect. Dude, Ellie, are you gonna connect?
[2:33:55] Speaker 2: I don't think Ali's got the uh. I don't think
[2:33:58] Speaker 2: Alie's got the the connection for it. I think she's
[2:34:02] Speaker 2: about to drop. Mm hmmmmmmm. I need some elevator music.
[2:34:08] Speaker 4: I don't know.
[2:34:09] Speaker 2: I didn't add that yet. There you go, here's some
[2:34:12] Speaker 2: elevator music. There we go, added to the sound. But
[2:34:18] Speaker 2: all right, well we'll drop Ali. Ali is clearly not
[2:34:20] Speaker 2: going to be able to connect. Sorry, Ali, come back
[2:34:23] Speaker 2: if you want to try again. And we're gonna get
[2:34:27] Speaker 2: Laura Petrova next.
[2:34:32] Speaker 1: That's a cool surname.
[2:34:35] Speaker 2: Indeed, Laura. Hello, welcome in, Laura, Laura. Are you least?
[2:34:46] Speaker 2: I'm doing great?
[2:34:47] Speaker 26: Are you?
[2:34:49] Speaker 5: I'm good?
[2:34:50] Speaker 4: I'm good.
[2:34:51] Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm over eighteen.
[2:34:52] Speaker 26: And I know this is not the mess I I
[2:34:56] Speaker 26: just wanted. If you allow me a minute, I can
[2:34:59] Speaker 26: ask to the second claim I'm the Messiah something and
[2:35:04] Speaker 26: that's okay?
[2:35:05] Speaker 2: Sure, do you believe I'm the Messiah?
[2:35:12] Speaker 5: This is weird? Okay?
[2:35:13] Speaker 26: So literally during I was listening the Life, and I
[2:35:17] Speaker 26: was like, because I'm a big fan, right, I've been
[2:35:19] Speaker 26: listening long time, and I really like everything that you've
[2:35:23] Speaker 26: been saying, all the knowledge that you're bringing to people. However, however,
[2:35:27] Speaker 26: I was just thinking in my mind, if Justin stands
[2:35:31] Speaker 26: for justice for you, the constructing all those people from
[2:35:34] Speaker 26: this tremendous religion that the slaved and kills so many people.
[2:35:38] Speaker 5: I'm like, in this moment, I'm thinking this.
[2:35:41] Speaker 26: The Bible guy just said, like what your name means on.
[2:35:46] Speaker 7: Greek?
[2:35:46] Speaker 26: I think, and I'm spiritual, right, so that according to
[2:35:50] Speaker 26: my spiritual beliefs, it's a confirmation and it's not about
[2:35:54] Speaker 26: me believe in it, but it's about you doing the
[2:35:57] Speaker 26: right thing.
[2:35:58] Speaker 5: So yeah, praise that.
[2:36:02] Speaker 2: Pray Doug another prophet. Prophetess Laura, you can't your first
[2:36:08] Speaker 2: testimony right, this is the eyewitnessed.
[2:36:11] Speaker 5: You heard it.
[2:36:12] Speaker 2: Here we have more eyewitnesses. The miracles of Doug and
[2:36:16] Speaker 2: his Messiah abound. Friends.
[2:36:21] Speaker 1: I'm the Justin of the Lord, Laura.
[2:36:25] Speaker 2: Thank you for being a witness today.
[2:36:29] Speaker 9: Thank you, thank you for everything you're doing.
[2:36:31] Speaker 12: Your amazing guys, keep.
[2:36:32] Speaker 2: On going, yours friend, the miracles keep coming friends. I
[2:36:37] Speaker 2: don't know what else to tell you. Obviously the spirit
[2:36:41] Speaker 2: is at work. Let's try Laurel.
[2:36:47] Speaker 12: Hello, certain names, Laurel.
[2:36:51] Speaker 2: Sorry, Laurel. Welcome man, Laurel. Are you at least eighteen?
[2:36:56] Speaker 2: And do you believe that Jesus is the Messiah?
[2:36:59] Speaker 12: Are I am far over eighteen?
[2:37:02] Speaker 7: And?
[2:37:03] Speaker 12: Sure?
[2:37:05] Speaker 5: Yeah?
[2:37:05] Speaker 27: Okay, fine, Jesus is the Messiah? But happen I happen
[2:37:10] Speaker 27: to believe that God.
[2:37:11] Speaker 2: That's not very comfortable. It's not Are you luke warm?
[2:37:16] Speaker 7: Right?
[2:37:19] Speaker 12: Maybe?
[2:37:19] Speaker 7: May I? May I?
[2:37:22] Speaker 2: What's Revelation three? Tell you about being lukewarm?
[2:37:26] Speaker 5: Well?
[2:37:27] Speaker 12: I don't know, but may I provide an example?
[2:37:30] Speaker 2: Jesus says, I know your works that you're neither hot
[2:37:34] Speaker 2: nor cold. I wish that you were either hot or cold.
[2:37:36] Speaker 2: So because you're a look warm, neither cold nor hot,
[2:37:38] Speaker 2: I'm going to spit you out of my mouth.
[2:37:40] Speaker 27: No no, no, no, no wait wait wait wait wait no,
[2:37:44] Speaker 27: before you get rid of me, may I provide example?
[2:37:48] Speaker 27: No wait, don't don't not ship. Please please let me
[2:37:52] Speaker 27: provide an example or analogy. And then after my analogy
[2:37:58] Speaker 27: you can say disguis full of ship or you can
[2:38:00] Speaker 27: be like, oh, okay, I see where.
[2:38:02] Speaker 7: He's coming from.
[2:38:05] Speaker 2: Okay, so you're a Christian.
[2:38:06] Speaker 27: Now, I believe in God. I believe, but when I
[2:38:12] Speaker 27: say God, I believe in the first call. Okay, so
[2:38:14] Speaker 27: this is what I mean. Okay, give me, give me
[2:38:18] Speaker 27: thirty seconds, thirty seconds.
[2:38:20] Speaker 12: Okay.
[2:38:20] Speaker 27: So let's say I'm a green ball and my friend
[2:38:23] Speaker 27: is a red ball. So my friend the red ball said, hey,
[2:38:26] Speaker 27: green ball, I have a time machine and I'm going
[2:38:30] Speaker 27: to go back thirteen billion years. So he goes back
[2:38:34] Speaker 27: thirteen billion years and he says, hey, if I wait
[2:38:37] Speaker 27: here thirteen billion years, I will rejoin with you. Right, Okay,
[2:38:44] Speaker 27: if I wait thirteen billion, you know years, he'll rejoin
[2:38:47] Speaker 27: with me.
[2:38:48] Speaker 5: But this is my issue.
[2:38:50] Speaker 27: I do believe in God because there's this one piece
[2:38:53] Speaker 27: I can't understand. So my friend said, he said, you
[2:38:57] Speaker 27: know what the universe is thirteen point eight years, So
[2:39:01] Speaker 27: I'm gonna go back thirteen point eight billion.
[2:39:04] Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not gonna do that.
[2:39:07] Speaker 4: What the fuck is that?
[2:39:09] Speaker 2: I don't even think he knows that. Dude just came
[2:39:11] Speaker 2: to yap Excess Brothers again, thank you for the additional
[2:39:15] Speaker 2: eleven eleven so that recognize you as the secondary fulfillment
[2:39:18] Speaker 2: foretold in the book of Reinterpretations. Please accept my humble times.
[2:39:21] Speaker 2: I think you sent that same super chat twice, my friend,
[2:39:24] Speaker 2: but don't worry. We appreciate you building up those treasures
[2:39:26] Speaker 2: in heaven and Reverend we have another reverend in the house.
[2:39:29] Speaker 2: Thank you for the ten hours super donation, says I
[2:39:32] Speaker 2: think the Bible guy is getting loaded. Is basically my
[2:39:36] Speaker 2: entire memory of being dragged to mass at Saint Francis
[2:39:40] Speaker 2: Xavier's church as a child. I may not fully understand
[2:39:44] Speaker 2: the comment.
[2:39:46] Speaker 13: I was drinking espresso everybody because I was starting to
[2:39:50] Speaker 13: get a little bit sleepy, and someone sent me a
[2:39:54] Speaker 13: fifty bucks saying wake up.
[2:39:57] Speaker 2: Hell yeah, so that'll wake you up, and then abe
[2:40:03] Speaker 2: the cat. We do love kiddies. Thank you for the
[2:40:05] Speaker 2: ten dollars tithe and offering, says Justin. Mew look confirms
[2:40:11] Speaker 2: he is deaf. Jesus, Praise be Jesus. Justin's mew look.
[2:40:17] Speaker 2: What's a mew look?
[2:40:21] Speaker 3: I assume it means new look. Maybe it's a play
[2:40:24] Speaker 3: on the cat thing, or maybe it's or is.
[2:40:27] Speaker 1: It based on mewing? Which is uh?
[2:40:29] Speaker 13: Which is I think it's a gen z thing maybe
[2:40:33] Speaker 13: or Justin's new look confirms he definitely is.
[2:40:36] Speaker 1: He is deaf Jesus, I have no idea.
[2:40:39] Speaker 2: Maybe it's meant to me new Well, we appreciate the uh,
[2:40:43] Speaker 2: the tithes, and the offering, and last one from our
[2:40:45] Speaker 2: friend Mike. Thank you so much for the tithe My
[2:40:47] Speaker 2: friend says, I'm Michael, who is like the son of
[2:40:50] Speaker 2: Man proclaimed justin the Messiah you have been waiting for.
[2:40:54] Speaker 2: Praise be to him, our savior, he who is with
[2:40:57] Speaker 2: Doug and Sharon. Well, pray be and blessings to you, Michael,
[2:41:02] Speaker 2: for both seeing and believing. And now let's get our
[2:41:07] Speaker 2: nice guest. We're gonna get a local wizard into the conversation.
[2:41:13] Speaker 2: I haven't met too many wizard Christians. How are you
[2:41:17] Speaker 2: doing local?
[2:41:18] Speaker 5: I specifically stated I was an atheist.
[2:41:20] Speaker 12: I'm sorry.
[2:41:21] Speaker 2: Oh okay, well, thanks for being honest. At least I
[2:41:24] Speaker 2: was wondering why a wizard was gonna be up here. Yeah. Well, friends,
[2:41:29] Speaker 2: we've run out of guests, and I expected that. That's
[2:41:33] Speaker 2: I've done this live stream before and it's you can't
[2:41:36] Speaker 2: do a full, like seven hour live stream on it.
[2:41:38] Speaker 2: It's not really possible because it's too niche of a topic.
[2:41:42] Speaker 2: But I'm gonna read through what's left of the super
[2:41:46] Speaker 2: chats and then get to bed, because tomorrow Chet and
[2:41:51] Speaker 2: I are gonna be doing a live stream on the
[2:41:54] Speaker 2: River Ordeal. I think you're gonna like it a lot.
[2:41:56] Speaker 2: Make sure you tune in tomorrow for that. It won't
[2:41:59] Speaker 2: be on DZY Debates, just for everyone who's watching right now.
[2:42:03] Speaker 2: As I've said in the past, DZ Debates is a
[2:42:05] Speaker 2: debate only channel. It's only their four debates. If you
[2:42:08] Speaker 2: just want debate content, that's what DZ Debates is there for.
[2:42:12] Speaker 2: It will be on my main channel, Deconstruction Zone. If
[2:42:15] Speaker 2: anyone wants to watch, we'll we'll set it up in
[2:42:18] Speaker 2: horizontal format still yet, or maybe we'll do it get
[2:42:21] Speaker 2: horizontalway in vertical.
[2:42:22] Speaker 7: I don't know.
[2:42:24] Speaker 13: I guess once this live ends, I guess I'll just
[2:42:26] Speaker 13: go live for everyone's to go over there and watch
[2:42:29] Speaker 13: the cook and continue.
[2:42:31] Speaker 2: Yeah, after this live stream, let's run over to to
[2:42:34] Speaker 2: Dalton's live stream and well we can keep the party
[2:42:37] Speaker 2: running and then you know what it is, you know,
[2:42:40] Speaker 2: it's it's uh, it's Friday, So there'll be more debates
[2:42:44] Speaker 2: probably on after that, on on Sunday. Sunday's a big
[2:42:48] Speaker 2: debate day and then we'll be back again Monday, but
[2:42:50] Speaker 2: also tonight. All right, let's read some some times and offerings. Steiny,
[2:42:54] Speaker 2: get me a Danish? Is it Stiny or Steiny? But
[2:42:58] Speaker 2: did you plank across two donkeys? I did one better.
[2:43:02] Speaker 2: I did the Sean Claude van dam splits across two
[2:43:06] Speaker 2: donkeys when I rode them. A planking is weak, It's weak.
[2:43:10] Speaker 2: Sauce that being said, I did go for a donkey ride,
[2:43:17] Speaker 2: just not the type that you get in like Matt
[2:43:19] Speaker 2: to Moorish Mexico. Luke, thank you for the five dollar donation,
[2:43:23] Speaker 2: says the best evidence of the moon landing is that
[2:43:25] Speaker 2: the USSR never denied it. I actually think that's a
[2:43:27] Speaker 2: good point. If it was fake, the USSR would have
[2:43:30] Speaker 2: been of the mind of like trying to deny that
[2:43:33] Speaker 2: it actually happened. And doctor Dave, great to see you.
[2:43:36] Speaker 2: Thank you for the five pound donation, says Justin you
[2:43:39] Speaker 2: rock hard as Doug. I'm here for the Halloween cookout,
[2:43:42] Speaker 2: rock hard for Doug and simply for Sharon slow roast
[2:43:45] Speaker 2: or stirfry. I don't care. I'm actually shocked we didn't
[2:43:49] Speaker 2: get as many Christians up here as we normally do
[2:43:51] Speaker 2: for this topic. But what are you gonna do?
[2:43:53] Speaker 7: You know?
[2:43:54] Speaker 2: Ben says trigger treating is the only acceptable version of
[2:43:57] Speaker 2: door to door profelytizing. And I agree, there's never a
[2:44:02] Speaker 2: need to go door to door and try to convert somebody.
[2:44:06] Speaker 2: And the reality is, especially in America, if you don't know,
[2:44:10] Speaker 2: you don't know about Jesus and you live in America,
[2:44:12] Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell you. Like all the
[2:44:16] Speaker 2: preaching that people do, the street preaching, all that nonsense,
[2:44:19] Speaker 2: the doom and gloom, you're going to hell. That's to
[2:44:23] Speaker 2: convict people who already believe in this nonsense. Atheists aren't
[2:44:25] Speaker 2: convicted by any of that. It's ridiculous. Former prophet Nathan says,
[2:44:30] Speaker 2: hail Doug Rocket for Doug Let the Messiah cook. And
[2:44:32] Speaker 2: indeed we saw a little bit of cooking tonight. We
[2:44:35] Speaker 2: didn't get as much as we hoped for.
[2:44:37] Speaker 7: But sorry.
[2:44:38] Speaker 2: Mech says Happy Halloween. Would love to hear your top
[2:44:40] Speaker 2: of the head thoughts on Bahai faith. Actually, that's not
[2:44:44] Speaker 2: a faith I know much about. To be quite honest, Mech,
[2:44:50] Speaker 2: I can't really say that my input would be valuable.
[2:44:52] Speaker 2: There there are people in the community, though that are
[2:44:56] Speaker 2: familiar with it.
[2:44:57] Speaker 13: Basically, listen, this is why I know about the Bahai
[2:45:00] Speaker 13: Faith is that one rained Wilson from the office as
[2:45:03] Speaker 13: a member of the Bahai Faith. And too they believe
[2:45:07] Speaker 13: that Mohammad and Jesus and the Buddha are all prophets
[2:45:10] Speaker 13: and something to that effect. Yeah, it's like a it's
[2:45:14] Speaker 13: a syncret synchronization belief.
[2:45:18] Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense, doctor Dave, thank you for the
[2:45:21] Speaker 2: DZ debate membership. I appreciate that memberships were off the
[2:45:24] Speaker 2: hook today. And Earthmond says, I'm prophesying crash outs in
[2:45:28] Speaker 2: the near future. We saw maybe a little bit of
[2:45:31] Speaker 2: minor crash out, not as many as I expected. The
[2:45:33] Speaker 2: last time I ran this live stream, there were so
[2:45:37] Speaker 2: many crash outs. It was so bad, like I spent
[2:45:41] Speaker 2: the next three months. I got death threats from Christians
[2:45:43] Speaker 2: and Muslims over it, Like that's how crazy this This,
[2:45:47] Speaker 2: this exact live stream happened last time, but maybe people
[2:45:52] Speaker 2: were over it. Saladin says Prophet justin peace be upon
[2:45:56] Speaker 2: him is doing Doug's work, And indeed I am doing
[2:45:59] Speaker 2: I do what my father in heaven does, which is Doug,
[2:46:03] Speaker 2: which is being rock hard forever and doctor Davison AD's
[2:46:09] Speaker 2: decastation zone membership. I appreciate that, and cam Bam says Doug. Doug,
[2:46:13] Speaker 2: heites never read their slab. No, they don't, they don't.
[2:46:17] Speaker 2: They don't read anything. Oh honey, don't don't you want
[2:46:20] Speaker 2: don't electrify the cat. You can electrifying the cat. I
[2:46:26] Speaker 2: named him Volta and Faraday for anyone who wants to
[2:46:29] Speaker 2: know my nerd pet names. So one of them actually
[2:46:33] Speaker 2: looks like he was struck by lightning the ways fur
[2:46:35] Speaker 2: code is colored.
[2:46:36] Speaker 5: So we had to do it.
[2:46:38] Speaker 2: You guys know me. It's gonna be that way. Yoni,
[2:46:41] Speaker 2: thank you for the one thousand AARs. I appreciate that, friend,
[2:46:44] Speaker 2: it says, Hey, they're justin rockcotd for Doug. Quick question.
[2:46:47] Speaker 2: Is there any moment in the Bible where God teaches
[2:46:50] Speaker 2: anything as a parent would or is always commanded and
[2:46:53] Speaker 2: anger as a parent shouldn't not much teaching like I'm
[2:47:00] Speaker 2: always reminded of one passage in Hosea where he talks
[2:47:04] Speaker 2: about because in the Prophecy of Joseiah, basically Joseah marries
[2:47:09] Speaker 2: a harlot and it's supposed to represent the Harley tree
[2:47:12] Speaker 2: of Israel and God being the bridegroom and of their
[2:47:18] Speaker 2: waywardness and his wanting to bring them back after they're punished.
[2:47:22] Speaker 2: He talks about how he will speak tenderly to her
[2:47:25] Speaker 2: and draw her to him, so like we do have
[2:47:29] Speaker 2: some instances like that, and then like even in again
[2:47:33] Speaker 2: in the Book of Hoseiah chapter eleven, he talks about
[2:47:35] Speaker 2: how he took the Israelites under his wing as basically
[2:47:39] Speaker 2: as a parent. So we get some passages of God
[2:47:43] Speaker 2: like parenting the Israelites, but honestly, most of them is
[2:47:47] Speaker 2: God just getting pissed off right away and like shooting
[2:47:50] Speaker 2: flames from his eyeballs rather than controlling his anger. Remember
[2:47:55] Speaker 2: anger the foothold of the devil, which means I'm inclined
[2:47:58] Speaker 2: to believe that the devil on all of the altercations
[2:48:01] Speaker 2: with him and Yahweh because Yahway's always pissed, which means
[2:48:04] Speaker 2: yah yeah, Yahweh is like literally under the devil's thumb,
[2:48:07] Speaker 2: no way around that. And Varren, thank you for the
[2:48:10] Speaker 2: fight hour uh super tithe says love. The costume mine
[2:48:14] Speaker 2: is two little red horns and a blazer stuff with
[2:48:18] Speaker 2: timeshare butchers name take Annie staid, Oh my gosh, yeah,
[2:48:23] Speaker 2: that would be fun. If there was such like a
[2:48:26] Speaker 2: satanic being, they would be televangelists and timeshare peddlers. Reverend Nate,
[2:48:35] Speaker 2: thank you for the five Canadian dollar tithe says Jesus
[2:48:39] Speaker 2: said I came or I come before you, and that's
[2:48:42] Speaker 2: evidence he was a fraud. The room Messiah would be
[2:48:45] Speaker 2: a generous and thoughtful lover, not a bump and dump chump.
[2:48:49] Speaker 2: Amen for that. It's not a race, it's a journey.
[2:48:54] Speaker 2: That's all I say about that, Doctor Dave, thank you
[2:48:57] Speaker 2: for the five pounds, says Oh, messenger of Doug prophecy
[2:49:01] Speaker 2: to us as the Crustins' PROPHILEI during the cookout, I
[2:49:07] Speaker 2: have offered up sacrifices both horizontally and vertically. Oh, praises
[2:49:11] Speaker 2: be to you, Doctor Dave, for your generosity on both streams.
[2:49:15] Speaker 2: Truly being a prophet of Doug and Matt Doggherty says,
[2:49:18] Speaker 2: praise be to Doug's prophet and heeding Doug's teaching, don't
[2:49:22] Speaker 2: be a dick and think critically always in that order,
[2:49:25] Speaker 2: and I couldn't agree more. The prophet is with you,
[2:49:28] Speaker 2: and I like that we had someone like Steve. Steve
[2:49:30] Speaker 2: was obviously someone who actually went to higher education. To
[2:49:34] Speaker 2: be a reverend, you actually have to have a seminary
[2:49:37] Speaker 2: degree to call yourself reverend. So I assume he actually
[2:49:39] Speaker 2: went to seminary. That's one of the qualifications for that title.
[2:49:43] Speaker 2: And he knew he was honest with what the Bible
[2:49:45] Speaker 2: was saying. As I've said it before, most of the
[2:49:48] Speaker 2: people who go to seminary to study this book, they
[2:49:50] Speaker 2: know it has problems like that. It's weird to me
[2:49:55] Speaker 2: that the apologists think that like those who went to seminary,
[2:50:00] Speaker 2: like it's rare for them to end up like me. No, No,
[2:50:02] Speaker 2: it's pretty common for them to deconstruct in seminary. That's
[2:50:05] Speaker 2: part of the goal. Space Lord says, get THEE behind me, Karen, Indeed,
[2:50:11] Speaker 2: get THEE behind me. Not cracking Karen. Also, I do
[2:50:15] Speaker 2: apologize for anyone in Karen. I'm sure you're a delightfully
[2:50:18] Speaker 2: sweet person. Happy Halloween. I think Christ would appreciate the
[2:50:21] Speaker 2: cosplay aspects of the celebration that might actually be true,
[2:50:24] Speaker 2: Like if Jesus was real, he might actually find this funny.
[2:50:27] Speaker 2: Like you don't like if you're if you literally are God,
[2:50:30] Speaker 2: you have to find people joking about you a little
[2:50:33] Speaker 2: bit funny or he's have no sense of humor. But
[2:50:35] Speaker 2: then again, God in the Old Testament was pretty pissed
[2:50:37] Speaker 2: all the time. That's why he's sending people to Hell.
[2:50:41] Speaker 2: I mean in the New Testament at least Tim says
[2:50:44] Speaker 2: like the millstone made the weight of Doug grind away
[2:50:46] Speaker 2: your impurities. And in the name of Sharon, let us
[2:50:50] Speaker 2: and tomato. Oh I say you did, let us on tomato.
[2:50:53] Speaker 2: That's good. Okay, okay, all right, we got jokes, friends,
[2:50:58] Speaker 2: We got jokes. We got jokes. Chris, thank you for
[2:51:02] Speaker 2: the six hours sixty six offering praise and his messiah.
[2:51:06] Speaker 2: But tell us how you feel about fig trees. This
[2:51:10] Speaker 2: is how you know Jesus is not a messiah. Fucking live.
[2:51:13] Speaker 2: I love victories. They're amazing. God in the Old Testament
[2:51:15] Speaker 2: loves victories. Victories are a a blessing for humanity. God
[2:51:19] Speaker 2: gave you figs. He would never want you to curse
[2:51:22] Speaker 2: a fic tree for doing nothing wrong. Jesus was a
[2:51:26] Speaker 2: maniac for cursing a fig tree expecting it to produce
[2:51:29] Speaker 2: fruit outside of the season. Eod Punk says, why do
[2:51:33] Speaker 2: Christians believe Paul change the Covenant when God and Jesus said,
[2:51:36] Speaker 2: the laws don't change. Oh, Doug, please protect us from
[2:51:40] Speaker 2: the Cubic zirconia. So you have to read Acts chapter
[2:51:47] Speaker 2: ten in Acts chapter fifteen. Those are like the primary
[2:51:50] Speaker 2: passages that detail the Holy Spirit changing the rules. Some
[2:51:55] Speaker 2: of the early critics are the early apologists of Christianity,
[2:51:59] Speaker 2: theudic or they're apologetic for. This was that well when
[2:52:03] Speaker 2: Jesus was around, they weren't ready for this new revelation
[2:52:06] Speaker 2: had to be progressively given to them. So Jesus meant
[2:52:09] Speaker 2: that was only true until there was new revelation. And
[2:52:12] Speaker 2: the new revelation came through Paul and the Holy Spirit,
[2:52:15] Speaker 2: which is asinine. No one says the Messiah you cured
[2:52:20] Speaker 2: my blindness. Oh of course I did. I didn't even
[2:52:22] Speaker 2: have to spin in it. Spiritually, it's the same thing
[2:52:26] Speaker 2: I have always had, twenty twenty vision physically. Keep up
[2:52:29] Speaker 2: the good work right hard for Doug. Well, thank you
[2:52:31] Speaker 2: for letting us know known. And remember, if we're using
[2:52:34] Speaker 2: Jesus hermanudics, you can do anything as long as you
[2:52:38] Speaker 2: do it spiritually. I might think about paying my taxes
[2:52:41] Speaker 2: spiritually this year. I'll let you know how that goes.
[2:52:43] Speaker 2: Herbie Scheine says, has anyone noticed that the Messiah looks
[2:52:46] Speaker 2: like justin from deconstruction zone. That's because the Messiah is
[2:52:51] Speaker 2: justin from deconstruction zone. Herbie, that is the case. That
[2:52:55] Speaker 2: is the case, my friend, and Optimus Rhyme says, the
[2:52:58] Speaker 2: real Messiah can turn wine into krackin listen, that is
[2:53:03] Speaker 2: the case. I didn't do it today. I'm reserving some
[2:53:06] Speaker 2: of my powers. I don't want to completely drain myself
[2:53:09] Speaker 2: and have to retreat to the desert to recover. But yes,
[2:53:13] Speaker 2: the Messiah could certainly turn wine into cracking. When the
[2:53:16] Speaker 2: Messiah makes another appearance, I might do it looking good,
[2:53:20] Speaker 2: justin Happy Halloween, inhale the old gods greetings from Finland. Well,
[2:53:24] Speaker 2: thank you, nocturnal greetings to you over in Finland, and
[2:53:29] Speaker 2: w for the old gods. And Duke of Shaska says, cheers.
[2:53:35] Speaker 2: True Messiah would have answered, I know, well apparently, I
[2:53:39] Speaker 2: don't know if there's a slogan about cheers. Is there
[2:53:44] Speaker 2: a slogan about that? I'm sorry, I don't know. Doctor
[2:53:48] Speaker 2: Daves says, fuck, the Messiah turned water into wine. You
[2:53:51] Speaker 2: saw it here, friends, you watch the Messiah turn water
[2:53:54] Speaker 2: into wine.
[2:53:55] Speaker 7: Tonight.
[2:53:55] Speaker 2: I think twice. I don't know what else I can do.
[2:53:58] Speaker 2: Next time I walk on water just for everybody. Stray,
[2:54:00] Speaker 2: Heathen says for Halloween, I'm dressed as a whares. I
[2:54:04] Speaker 2: will not elaborate if you know. You know, we do
[2:54:07] Speaker 2: know strays, and it doesn't matter if your whores or avert.
[2:54:11] Speaker 2: It's okay. We love you, and Joshua says, I'm convinced
[2:54:15] Speaker 2: as you should be. Josh Well, thank you, my fellow
[2:54:19] Speaker 2: worker in the gospel, and also as Shara, great.
[2:54:23] Speaker 12: To see you.
[2:54:24] Speaker 2: Thank you for the six hundred sixty sixty six donation.
[2:54:27] Speaker 2: Says If I call Sharon rock mommy, can I be
[2:54:30] Speaker 2: counted among the wicked and perverse? Please? No, she loves it.
[2:54:35] Speaker 2: You can talk dirty to Sharon. All you want is share.
[2:54:38] Speaker 2: Don't worry. She's here for it and maybe it's just me.
[2:54:41] Speaker 2: Then says, oh you look pretty. Greetings again from England
[2:54:43] Speaker 2: and happy Halloween to all Heathens. Have a great show.
[2:54:46] Speaker 2: Rock hard for Doug and something moist about Sarah. Yes,
[2:54:49] Speaker 2: it's either stopping what for Sharon or sinfully wet for Sharon.
[2:54:52] Speaker 2: You can pick your poison on that one, but I
[2:54:55] Speaker 2: make sure it's moist and referendate, says boo out a
[2:54:59] Speaker 2: sh Pretty sure that's just someone just up as it
[2:55:03] Speaker 2: goes for Halloween.
[2:55:05] Speaker 7: I I.
[2:55:08] Speaker 2: Think maybe maybe Mindy Devil, thank you for the four
[2:55:13] Speaker 2: nine dollar offering, says, here's my offering to the Almighty
[2:55:15] Speaker 2: Doug and justin the true Messiah. Let the ceremonial cookout begin. Well,
[2:55:19] Speaker 2: thank you, Mindy, I truly appreciate that and glad to
[2:55:23] Speaker 2: see your among the fold. And Christian Jesus, Jesus Christ
[2:55:26] Speaker 2: walks into a hotel. He hands the innkeeper three nails
[2:55:28] Speaker 2: and asks, can you put me up for the night?
[2:55:31] Speaker 2: And yes, that is a that's a classic, my friend.
[2:55:36] Speaker 2: Keep up the good work. Millennial Meg, great disease, says
[2:55:38] Speaker 2: I just opened YouTube and saw whatever this is best
[2:55:43] Speaker 2: channel forever and ever, Amen, blessing them praised like, well,
[2:55:46] Speaker 2: thank you, my little millennial Meg. I appreciate that. And listen,
[2:55:50] Speaker 2: we have fun. We're allowed to have fun, even if
[2:55:53] Speaker 2: it's the at the expense of fake messiahs Alex, thank
[2:55:56] Speaker 2: you for the five dollars donation, says After some really
[2:55:59] Speaker 2: really shoddy math, I figured that a ton of ants
[2:56:02] Speaker 2: would fit in a four cubic meter container. Enjoy rock
[2:56:05] Speaker 2: harder for Dug Well, Alex, I'm glad that you were
[2:56:07] Speaker 2: able to get some math out of the way during
[2:56:09] Speaker 2: this live stream. The Savior myself approves of math for sure,
[2:56:14] Speaker 2: and John Klein says, could you ask for someone to
[2:56:16] Speaker 2: photoshop a face hugger on the shroud of Turin? I'm
[2:56:20] Speaker 2: not talented enough to make this happen. What's the face hugger.
[2:56:26] Speaker 1: From the Aliens movies?
[2:56:30] Speaker 13: It's the little It's the alien that hugs onto your
[2:56:32] Speaker 13: face and then implants the xeno wolf inside you.
[2:56:36] Speaker 2: Oh damn yeah, I from the original Alien movies, like
[2:56:39] Speaker 2: nineteen eighty nine, like Sigourney Weaver.
[2:56:43] Speaker 1: Don't ask, I've never seen it. I I've seen Prometheus
[2:56:47] Speaker 1: and all the newest ones.
[2:56:48] Speaker 2: Oh, the new ones. Yeah, that makes sense. I don't
[2:56:50] Speaker 2: know anything happened in any of these new movies. This
[2:56:52] Speaker 2: is my alien lore died when Sigourney Weaver was no
[2:56:56] Speaker 2: longer an Alien movies. That's all I can tell you.
[2:56:59] Speaker 13: See, yes, from all the comments, so probably it's in that.
[2:57:02] Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I'll have to check it out again. It says, Oh,
[2:57:06] Speaker 2: great Messiah, have you come to unite the vertical and
[2:57:08] Speaker 2: horizontal I have indeed, maybe never be flaccid or dry,
[2:57:12] Speaker 2: but always rocker for Dug and some for Sharon. And indeed,
[2:57:15] Speaker 2: the correct motive viewing is horizontal and vertical. It's both,
[2:57:20] Speaker 2: it's both and nocturnals has any thoughts on the theory
[2:57:23] Speaker 2: of cainnosis not really, Um, I'm not really familiar with
[2:57:29] Speaker 2: the theory of canosis.
[2:57:32] Speaker 13: Canosis is the word use. It's the word used to
[2:57:35] Speaker 13: describe the way in which Jesus was a divine being,
[2:57:39] Speaker 13: but he emptied himself and became like a slave. So
[2:57:43] Speaker 13: Paul seems to believe in his theology that Jesus is
[2:57:46] Speaker 13: a divine being, but that he canosis, he empties himself
[2:57:50] Speaker 13: and becomes mortal, shedding his divine qualities.
[2:57:56] Speaker 1: That's pretty much it. There's not much to it. E's
[2:57:59] Speaker 1: like of that.
[2:58:00] Speaker 2: Yeah, So, I mean this is the Christian position, and
[2:58:04] Speaker 2: this is what Christians typically argue is, well, he limited himself.
[2:58:07] Speaker 2: But the reality is, what's the difference between somebody limiting
[2:58:11] Speaker 2: themself and somebody who doesn't have those abilities. Well, one
[2:58:16] Speaker 2: is provable. We can prove you don't have those abilities.
[2:58:18] Speaker 2: You cannot prove that you limited yourself. That's exactly what
[2:58:21] Speaker 2: I would say if my Messiah didn't have the abilities
[2:58:24] Speaker 2: of a God, I'd say, well, he limited himself. Yeah,
[2:58:27] Speaker 2: it's like it's like, oh, I meant to lose the
[2:58:29] Speaker 2: basketball game. I didn't want to win. Oh okay, Yeah,
[2:58:32] Speaker 2: sure you did, and you lost that game on purpose.
[2:58:34] Speaker 2: Huh okay. But yeah, that's how I would deal with
[2:58:37] Speaker 2: the issue of kenosis, like it's just a nonsensical claim
[2:58:40] Speaker 2: trying to justify the fact that, you know, he lacked
[2:58:42] Speaker 2: the qualities of God. Muff and Man says, I've seen
[2:58:45] Speaker 2: that argument a lot. What does it mean to be
[2:58:47] Speaker 2: a Christian and not believe in Jesus. I don't understand that. Well,
[2:58:51] Speaker 2: you can theoretically be like a cultural Christian. That's the thing.
[2:58:55] Speaker 2: You can believe in the teachings of Jesus, like the
[2:58:58] Speaker 2: moral teachings, but not like the doctrines of Jesus. I
[2:59:01] Speaker 2: thought about that as I was deconstructing. I was like,
[2:59:04] Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe that's a method. I decided very
[2:59:07] Speaker 2: quickly that would be stupid and unauthentic and I would
[2:59:10] Speaker 2: basically be lying to myself. So I didn't do it.
[2:59:14] Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, certainly you could. But there's lots
[2:59:17] Speaker 2: of secular Jews, and Meg says, a small tithe through
[2:59:21] Speaker 2: the Messiah rockhard for Doug and Justin. Well, thank you, Meg,
[2:59:24] Speaker 2: I really appreciate that, and I hope you're doing well,
[2:59:25] Speaker 2: my friend. And Patrick says, this is for your son Justin,
[2:59:30] Speaker 2: not for you. Patrick, thank you for the two hundred sek,
[2:59:33] Speaker 2: and trust me, I'll make sure that he gets the
[2:59:35] Speaker 2: two hundred sek. I appreciate the generosity, my friend. And yes,
[2:59:40] Speaker 2: unlike the false Messiah Jesus, I have a lineage, which
[2:59:44] Speaker 2: means I actually did fulfill Isaiah fifty three because I
[2:59:48] Speaker 2: have offspring. It's just me, says praise Doug, rock Hard
[2:59:51] Speaker 2: for Doug, praise Justin. Thanks, well, thank you, It's just me.
[2:59:55] Speaker 2: I appreciate being here. And beautiful puppy Hank says, my
[3:00:00] Speaker 2: theology is geology. Rock hard for Doug. I love it.
[3:00:06] Speaker 2: We need to put that on a T shirt. I'm
[3:00:07] Speaker 2: want to break that down. Hold on, let's see.
[3:00:11] Speaker 13: Yeah, it just says my theology is geology, and then
[3:00:14] Speaker 13: underneath it a picture of Doug and Sharon.
[3:00:16] Speaker 4: We got it.
[3:00:17] Speaker 2: It's on the list. I got some more stuff to
[3:00:19] Speaker 2: make for the shop, but we're gonna get it.
[3:00:22] Speaker 1: I'll get on tomorrow.
[3:00:23] Speaker 2: Thank you, my friend. Squire Lake says, please Messiah, when
[3:00:28] Speaker 2: were you oiled? I've been lubed quite a few times. Actually,
[3:00:32] Speaker 2: I missed seeing you anointed. Praise Doug and Sharon. They
[3:00:35] Speaker 2: are the shift. Well, thank you, squire. I'll see the
[3:00:39] Speaker 2: last time I was oiled. I typically oil in the
[3:00:43] Speaker 2: winter time because I get really dry skin and it flakes,
[3:00:47] Speaker 2: and so a little bit of a baby oil after
[3:00:51] Speaker 2: the shower it really helps the skin to not feel
[3:00:53] Speaker 2: like you need to itch all the time. So I've
[3:00:56] Speaker 2: probably been anointed a thousand times or more. I've had
[3:00:58] Speaker 2: to guess. I don't know. Phil Oh says, what did
[3:01:04] Speaker 2: the electron say to the other electron? Are you currently
[3:01:09] Speaker 2: seeing someone? Unbelievable?
[3:01:11] Speaker 3: But just.
[3:01:16] Speaker 10: That was great.
[3:01:17] Speaker 2: I appreciate that, Philoh. That's really good. That's really good.
[3:01:22] Speaker 2: If you know, you know, If not, you'll figure it out.
[3:01:25] Speaker 2: I hope you'll figure it out. Let me know if
[3:01:28] Speaker 2: you don't, phil Philip says, why can't God use encryption
[3:01:31] Speaker 2: so we know it's him? I mean, theoretically he could
[3:01:34] Speaker 2: listen if God was gonna send, if he's going to
[3:01:37] Speaker 2: come to Earth and send himself to Earth. He could
[3:01:39] Speaker 2: have picked a good time where we had security systems
[3:01:42] Speaker 2: and cameras and things like that, which he chose not to,
[3:01:47] Speaker 2: but he did send me at least. And Michael Howard says,
[3:01:50] Speaker 2: love the trolling tonight. Well, thank you, Michael. I hope,
[3:01:55] Speaker 2: I hope we told pretty good. I think it's a
[3:01:57] Speaker 2: good troll. And Daniel Dla note she says at Big
[3:02:01] Speaker 2: W for the Stone soup reference earlier, Well, thank you.
[3:02:04] Speaker 7: Uh.
[3:02:05] Speaker 2: Sometimes I do know some references, but they're pretty freaking archaic.
[3:02:08] Speaker 2: I don't know anything in pop culture.
[3:02:11] Speaker 1: I have a Thorge.
[3:02:12] Speaker 13: I don't have a Jesus joke, but I do have
[3:02:14] Speaker 13: a Thor joke. And it goes like this. One night,
[3:02:16] Speaker 13: Thor meets a beautiful woman at a bar and they
[3:02:19] Speaker 13: go back to her place and they get for a ski.
[3:02:21] Speaker 1: In the following morning, he says.
[3:02:22] Speaker 13: To dear maiden, I must confess to the I am Thor,
[3:02:26] Speaker 13: and she goes, you're Thor.
[3:02:28] Speaker 1: I can hardly walk.
[3:02:32] Speaker 2: That's amazing. Oh my gosh, your Thor. I can hardly walk.
[3:02:39] Speaker 2: I like that one.
[3:02:41] Speaker 7: Uh.
[3:02:43] Speaker 2: Gretchen says, do a donation drive to name the new
[3:02:46] Speaker 2: kiddie Gretchen. I already named him.
[3:02:49] Speaker 4: Listen.
[3:02:49] Speaker 2: I wasn't even all the way home before I had
[3:02:51] Speaker 2: names picked out for them, so it happened pretty quick.
[3:02:55] Speaker 2: And uh, guys, they're they're adorable. I'll put some pictures
[3:02:58] Speaker 2: in the in the discord. They are really really cute.
[3:03:03] Speaker 2: If you don't like cats, and to tell you, we'll
[3:03:05] Speaker 2: have to send you to the fires of hell. All pets.
[3:03:09] Speaker 2: Doug loves all pets, cats, dogs, babies, shit, even bunny rabbits.
[3:03:14] Speaker 2: Chinchilla is even zombie. Thank you for the superjet, says
[3:03:19] Speaker 2: Ben Broke. Here's a paltry sum. Happy Halloween, will zombie
[3:03:23] Speaker 2: if buddy, if you're broke, my friend, take care of yourself.
[3:03:27] Speaker 2: Please don't puture yourself out on our account. We're I'm fine.
[3:03:31] Speaker 2: Don't worry about me. But thank you for being part
[3:03:33] Speaker 2: of the community. We love and appreciate you. And Scott MacLeod,
[3:03:37] Speaker 2: thank you for the five dollars donation, says I'm on
[3:03:40] Speaker 2: the fence. Did you plant your seed in your own
[3:03:42] Speaker 2: mother so that you can be born your own son
[3:03:45] Speaker 2: and become your own dad. That's a deal breaker, And
[3:03:49] Speaker 2: I gotta be honest, it sounds like you just lack faith,
[3:03:52] Speaker 2: because what you've demonstrated is that you are firming contradictions.
[3:03:57] Speaker 2: And that's not rock hard, that's flaccid. Affirming contradictions means
[3:04:02] Speaker 2: that you're wobbly, you can't find your ground. But you
[3:04:06] Speaker 2: need to be firm, you need to be grounded. And
[3:04:08] Speaker 2: Doug and never affirm contradictions. So certainly no, there's no
[3:04:13] Speaker 2: Messiah that was impregnated his mother to give birth to himself,
[3:04:18] Speaker 2: to sacrifice himself to himself so that he could atone
[3:04:22] Speaker 2: for his own bloodless Thank you for the super dut
[3:04:26] Speaker 2: Nick trail. Great to see this his raging justin the
[3:04:28] Speaker 2: Messiah and Dalton, the definite Apostle. That is the case.
[3:04:33] Speaker 2: We've got the Disciple and apostle Dalton and chat with us,
[3:04:38] Speaker 2: and we witnessed miracles and prophecies. Today man with a
[3:04:41] Speaker 2: stoat in his throat, through his throat says, can't stay.
[3:04:44] Speaker 2: Got to watch the Toronto Blue Jays win the World Series.
[3:04:47] Speaker 2: Go Cardos, Go Blue Jays. Asking for a blessing from
[3:04:51] Speaker 2: Doug Listen, we prayed, we prayed, hopefully we'll get some
[3:04:54] Speaker 2: success over from the warriors in the Great White North
[3:04:58] Speaker 2: and twisted scriptures, great great to see you, my friend.
[3:05:01] Speaker 2: Hope you're doing well. Thank you for the four dollars
[3:05:03] Speaker 2: super donation and I reactor. Great to see you, my friend.
[3:05:07] Speaker 2: Thank you for the six sixty six super offering, says,
[3:05:11] Speaker 2: I know at least five hundred people saw. Sorry, I
[3:05:14] Speaker 2: know that at least five hundred people that saw the
[3:05:16] Speaker 2: risen just in that time his stream crashed and then
[3:05:19] Speaker 2: he came back. Indeed, it was a spiritual resurrection when
[3:05:23] Speaker 2: my stream crash and I came right back. Obviously, that's
[3:05:26] Speaker 2: what we were talking about. It's in the book another
[3:05:30] Speaker 2: prophecy fulfilled. Chipmunk, thank you for the two hours super
[3:05:34] Speaker 2: chest says, I have nicknamed your kittens transcendental. Okay, I
[3:05:40] Speaker 2: like that. That's good. That is good, and that's good stuff.
[3:05:44] Speaker 2: Chick Magnet says, this is what they call committing to
[3:05:47] Speaker 2: the bit. Indeed, Chick, if you've learned anything about me
[3:05:52] Speaker 2: anything in the two years I've been in lying, is
[3:05:54] Speaker 2: I don't do anything half assed. I just I dive
[3:05:57] Speaker 2: right into it. Sometimes I stumb and at the megapologies later,
[3:06:04] Speaker 2: Adam says Missiak Justin Ben Doug, thank you, Lissan al
[3:06:09] Speaker 2: Gabe music plays, Praise be and indeed, blessings to you,
[3:06:14] Speaker 2: our child Adam. Thank you for much a time and
[3:06:18] Speaker 2: devotion you've spent to the movement. Much appreciated, and it's
[3:06:22] Speaker 2: just me. Thank you for the five dollars donations of
[3:06:25] Speaker 2: the cause. And doctor Lissembla again, thank you so much
[3:06:28] Speaker 2: for the five pound offering, says, allow me to make
[3:06:31] Speaker 2: an offering for profit Dalton for the love of Doug. Tonight,
[3:06:35] Speaker 2: many have wetness the Messiah, get it wetnessed. That's amazing,
[3:06:41] Speaker 2: that's amazing, wet We had some good play on words
[3:06:43] Speaker 2: here tonight. Chris, thank you for the one dzy debate
[3:06:47] Speaker 2: gifted membership much much appreciated. And Gretchen still building up
[3:06:52] Speaker 2: those treasures in heaven with an additional super chest says
[3:06:54] Speaker 2: super chats are wonky on horizontal needs fixed. Yeah that
[3:06:57] Speaker 2: was from earlier.
[3:06:58] Speaker 7: I know.
[3:06:58] Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I bumped it axis for about a half
[3:07:01] Speaker 2: hour before I really realized that need it fixed. The
[3:07:05] Speaker 2: Viking Chef, thank you for the ten pound offering, says,
[3:07:09] Speaker 2: just got in from night shift. What an absolutely funny
[3:07:12] Speaker 2: sight justin it suits you strangely, you have great cook.
[3:07:16] Speaker 2: You have a great cook. Guys, looking forward to the
[3:07:18] Speaker 2: full session tomorrow. Well, Viking Chef, I hope you're doing well,
[3:07:21] Speaker 2: and I hope you grilled them well, and I hope
[3:07:23] Speaker 2: you got to do a lot of tasting along the way.
[3:07:25] Speaker 2: The best part about cooking, even if for somebody else,
[3:07:28] Speaker 2: is that you get to taste everything at your cooking.
[3:07:30] Speaker 2: That's why I do so much baking rather than cooking,
[3:07:32] Speaker 2: because like, I just want to have the desserts. Give
[3:07:34] Speaker 2: me that sugar, sugar coger, that's what I need. Like
[3:07:38] Speaker 2: I don't even know, like if it was up to me,
[3:07:40] Speaker 2: Like I don't know how cookies even got invented. The
[3:07:42] Speaker 2: minute I invent cookie dough, we're not having cookies, Like,
[3:07:46] Speaker 2: why would anyone make cookies? You just boon the dough?
[3:07:51] Speaker 2: What's wrong with you people? It's amazing. Who's it fixed me?
[3:07:56] Speaker 2: Thank you for the twenty five pln offering says, a
[3:07:59] Speaker 2: light shower rise, and his name shall be justin his path,
[3:08:03] Speaker 2: stretched horizontal across the earth, bringing peace to those in
[3:08:06] Speaker 2: the shadows. And I would add also vertically bringing you
[3:08:10] Speaker 2: connecting heaven and Earth. Yes, the vertical stream connects heaven
[3:08:14] Speaker 2: and Earth. My friends and doctor Dave, thank you for
[3:08:17] Speaker 2: the additional ten pound offering, says, oh, Lord, justin do
[3:08:20] Speaker 2: watch Lucifer. A number of times the angel brother to
[3:08:24] Speaker 2: Lucifer is sent by their dad, said Lucy needed to
[3:08:27] Speaker 2: return to Hell and restore balance. Yahweh does yeah? Wait,
[3:08:31] Speaker 2: does need Satan to flex with? Well in that story.
[3:08:35] Speaker 2: Maybe in that story, but it reminds me of there's
[3:08:39] Speaker 2: so many times where Jesus refers to the enemy like
[3:08:43] Speaker 2: Satan as the enemy. Like even in some of the
[3:08:45] Speaker 2: parables like the Parable of the Sower and whatnot. You know,
[3:08:47] Speaker 2: the enemy comes and steals away what was planted.
[3:08:51] Speaker 7: But like.
[3:08:53] Speaker 2: Or like two Corinthian four to four, the god of
[3:08:56] Speaker 2: this world theoretically is Satan. Why if that's the enemy
[3:08:59] Speaker 2: of God, God, just go fuck him up?
[3:09:01] Speaker 5: What are you doing?
[3:09:02] Speaker 2: Why are you putting him in charge? The dumbest thing
[3:09:06] Speaker 2: nobody would like, here's my biggest enemy. Hey, here's the
[3:09:10] Speaker 2: case to the kingdom. Go hog wild? Are you insane?
[3:09:14] Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense none.
[3:09:17] Speaker 3: A Lieutenant, the c is the real villain in the Bible,
[3:09:21] Speaker 3: and that is the well. I won't give any spoilers
[3:09:25] Speaker 3: for tomorrow.
[3:09:25] Speaker 2: But yeah, that is the case.
[3:09:27] Speaker 7: That is the case.
[3:09:28] Speaker 2: Actually, I hope we're going to talk about about river beasts.
[3:09:34] Speaker 2: Planet Peterson, good to see you, my friend. Thank you
[3:09:38] Speaker 2: for being here. Hope you're well, and thank you for
[3:09:40] Speaker 2: the two hour offering. To Doug, says Doug cured my ED.
[3:09:43] Speaker 2: Now I'm rock hard Brady, Doug Hale another miracle tonight
[3:09:47] Speaker 2: we have ed cured?
[3:09:50] Speaker 7: Did did he?
[3:09:51] Speaker 2: Did somebody spit on your ed to cure it like
[3:09:54] Speaker 2: they did with the blindness? Did you get the hawk two?
[3:09:56] Speaker 7: Oh?
[3:10:00] Speaker 2: Well, Hoctua, here's some ED. I'm glad you're well. Planeted Peterson,
[3:10:07] Speaker 2: you know popular culture, you know, sometimes funny, sometimes something
[3:10:13] Speaker 2: breaks through. Gem and Jay, thank you for the five
[3:10:18] Speaker 2: dollars super donation, says how many potatoes does it take
[3:10:20] Speaker 2: to unlive in Irishman?
[3:10:22] Speaker 7: None?
[3:10:23] Speaker 2: Oh, that's cold. That's what got Planet Peterson in trouble
[3:10:27] Speaker 2: making Irish jokes. He's gonna come after you. Irish is
[3:10:30] Speaker 2: coming after you. You run, hopefully you're not on TikTok.
[3:10:33] Speaker 2: He's gonna make up stories about you. None, bod dump,
[3:10:37] Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I got the rim shot. Don't worry there
[3:10:39] Speaker 2: is gom I get it because fam Yeah, we did,
[3:10:42] Speaker 2: we did get it. Actually, we did get it. Nice
[3:10:44] Speaker 2: threads Oily justin Happy Halloween. Sorry for Pie, well, thank
[3:10:48] Speaker 2: you for being here, and I appreciate the condolences. I
[3:10:51] Speaker 2: actually Pie has been it passed by two weeks ago.
[3:10:54] Speaker 2: I didn't say anything because, uh, I don't know. How
[3:10:57] Speaker 2: do you tell people that you're that your beloved felion
[3:10:59] Speaker 2: is the longer with you? I just kind of came
[3:11:01] Speaker 2: out in the middle of a live stream. But yeah,
[3:11:04] Speaker 2: Pie is is now, you know, he's he's buried in
[3:11:08] Speaker 2: laid to rest in peace, uh forever? And Saint Pie,
[3:11:14] Speaker 2: thank you. I almost forgot Saint Pie with Let's put
[3:11:16] Speaker 2: some respect on that. Praise Thy Holy what's that?
[3:11:23] Speaker 12: Oh?
[3:11:23] Speaker 2: Yeah, Pie is canonized. The first mm hm, the first
[3:11:28] Speaker 2: fruits of canonization all hailed the Father, the Stone, and
[3:11:32] Speaker 2: Holy Doug. Please bless me with your holy white light
[3:11:37] Speaker 2: in Doug's name. Slimy schlemazo. Oh that's from Laverne and Shirley,
[3:11:43] Speaker 2: isn't it Hassan Feffer incorporated? Amen.
[3:11:46] Speaker 1: See all my.
[3:11:47] Speaker 2: Pop culture references are ancient. I've been million years old,
[3:11:52] Speaker 2: Guy Beth get Bro, thank you for the supertest. Let's
[3:11:56] Speaker 2: get that Hava Nagala botch.
[3:12:01] Speaker 13: The gila, but noguila ho Nokia it's the Jewish song.
[3:12:09] Speaker 2: I don't know any Jewish songs, believe it or not.
[3:12:11] Speaker 2: I need to learn some.
[3:12:13] Speaker 1: Oh, I was all over that stuff better than Christian music.
[3:12:18] Speaker 5: I agree.
[3:12:18] Speaker 2: Actually it's got to be better Christian music.
[3:12:21] Speaker 3: That minarchy really nice.
[3:12:23] Speaker 2: Hm hmm, indeed it does.
[3:12:26] Speaker 3: It makes it stand out.
[3:12:28] Speaker 2: They got a lot of good percussion, uh schmuele. Thank
[3:12:34] Speaker 2: you for the ten Austrian chat donations. So justin last year,
[3:12:38] Speaker 2: I rode a horse down a road that literally went
[3:12:41] Speaker 2: into Jerusalem. I know it wasn't a donkey, but I
[3:12:44] Speaker 2: can be the Messiah to please. That counts. That's a
[3:12:47] Speaker 2: fulfilled prophecy. It was partially fulfilled. You did ride into Jerusalem.
[3:12:52] Speaker 2: Next time it'll be on a donkey at your second advent.
[3:12:54] Speaker 2: Obviously first advent you just went into Jerusalem. That's fair
[3:12:59] Speaker 2: and ripity, thank you for the ten dollar super Tithe says,
[3:13:04] Speaker 2: thanks for everything that you do. I watch you every
[3:13:06] Speaker 2: day and I learned every single day. You bring knowledge
[3:13:09] Speaker 2: and the judgment of doug upon us all all hil
[3:13:12] Speaker 2: the Dougie Well, thank you, rip Titty oops and flip.
[3:13:18] Speaker 13: Why do why do the hiccups always hits you at
[3:13:21] Speaker 13: the end of.
[3:13:21] Speaker 2: A show, Dude, I don't know why. At the end
[3:13:25] Speaker 2: of like every show, I get the hiccups. I don't
[3:13:27] Speaker 2: know why this is the case, and they don't they
[3:13:30] Speaker 2: keep like they'll keep me up at night. I don't know.
[3:13:33] Speaker 2: I get hiccups so often it's crazy. And I know
[3:13:36] Speaker 2: there's a thousand people watching right now that think they
[3:13:38] Speaker 2: have a cure for my hiccups. You don't just whatever
[3:13:41] Speaker 2: here you think you have that's gonna fix my hiccups.
[3:13:43] Speaker 2: They're not gonna work. Uh they are. They're like demonic
[3:13:47] Speaker 2: entities that go away on their own after way too long.
[3:13:50] Speaker 2: Former profit Nathan, thank you for the ten dollars supertys is.
[3:13:54] Speaker 2: I'm rewriting my prophetic book I have thrown out yahweh as.
[3:13:58] Speaker 2: I've learned that Doug and Sharon are the creators of
[3:14:00] Speaker 2: all the Messiah. Justin has showed us the way. All
[3:14:04] Speaker 2: hail Doug in Sharon. Indeed, that is the way. If
[3:14:07] Speaker 2: you read the Hebrew Bible correctly, you'll learn that God
[3:14:10] Speaker 2: is made from wooden stone, primarily stone, and Keith says
[3:14:16] Speaker 2: Premise one, Jesus tried to save souls from sin. Premise
[3:14:18] Speaker 2: two souls don't exist. Premis three. Justin saved minds from
[3:14:22] Speaker 2: god conclusion. Justice is the Messiah. I've saved all these
[3:14:27] Speaker 2: people from irrational belief systems. A Doug, A Doug and
[3:14:34] Speaker 2: Sean F. Thank you for the thirteen ninety nine super Tithe,
[3:14:36] Speaker 2: says Blessed B. Doug, the most solid of solids, the
[3:14:40] Speaker 2: rock of ages. Please help me find my car keys.
[3:14:43] Speaker 2: Oh and when I go to the mall, please help
[3:14:46] Speaker 2: me find a parking spot close to the entrance. Amen.
[3:14:49] Speaker 2: Doug is here for you. If you need a parking spot,
[3:14:52] Speaker 2: he's got it. If you need your ed Creed, he's gotcha.
[3:14:55] Speaker 2: And it's just cases Happy Halloween. The Messiah has never
[3:14:58] Speaker 2: looked so handsome. Well, thank you, Kay, thank you for
[3:15:02] Speaker 2: what you do Justin. Every time I see you live,
[3:15:04] Speaker 2: I smile. Okay, that's what I want. I want you
[3:15:07] Speaker 2: to be happy. I want people to be knowledgeable about
[3:15:10] Speaker 2: these topics. I want people to be able to defend
[3:15:12] Speaker 2: themselves when they come up against bad apologetics. And I
[3:15:15] Speaker 2: want you friends to be happy, enjoy, eat, drink and
[3:15:20] Speaker 2: be merry, have fun. You only get to live once.
[3:15:22] Speaker 2: Enjoy it. You're not gonna get to enjoy it when
[3:15:25] Speaker 2: you're done, Captain Hammer says, the thumbnail gave me the
[3:15:29] Speaker 2: biggest laugh.
[3:15:30] Speaker 7: Thank you.
[3:15:32] Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know which one if. I like the
[3:15:35] Speaker 2: horizontal order vertical thumbnail better, but I tried to make
[3:15:39] Speaker 2: it at leads a little bit comical. Raith, thank you
[3:15:42] Speaker 2: for the ten dollars. Super toens is the use of
[3:15:44] Speaker 2: Buckeye's color on your head in this is priceless worth
[3:15:49] Speaker 2: the ten bucks to say, I got it absolutely. Listen, guys,
[3:15:54] Speaker 2: if you know anything about me is that I'm going
[3:15:56] Speaker 2: to root for the Bucks. I'm a hometown type of guy,
[3:16:00] Speaker 2: root for the Ohio teams. I'm loyal. I am loyal
[3:16:03] Speaker 2: no matter what. I don't care how bad the Browns get.
[3:16:05] Speaker 2: I'll always root for the Browns. I even root for
[3:16:07] Speaker 2: the Bengals even because they're from Ohio, even though I'm
[3:16:10] Speaker 2: not from Cincinnati. Go Bengals, you know, unless unless they're
[3:16:14] Speaker 2: playing against the Browns and I have to root for
[3:16:16] Speaker 2: the Browns. And Pat pat great to see it, says
[3:16:18] Speaker 2: the Almighty Great Justin. Please answer our great prayers and
[3:16:21] Speaker 2: allow the Omega Doug to bless his army Well. Doug
[3:16:25] Speaker 2: has put many blessings on the stream today. We've even
[3:16:28] Speaker 2: seen people cured of ved. That being said, keep on
[3:16:31] Speaker 2: cooking justin Well, thank you, I appreciate that, Pat, Pat
[3:16:35] Speaker 2: and g H says, we got a doubting Tanza night
[3:16:39] Speaker 2: over here rock hard for Doug. That does seem to
[3:16:41] Speaker 2: be the case. Actually, it sounds like Steve might be
[3:16:44] Speaker 2: deconstructing if I'm listening to him correctly. I hope that,
[3:16:47] Speaker 2: I really hope the best for Steve. He's a nice guy.
[3:16:49] Speaker 2: I hope that he finds his way out. Ancient Warrior says,
[3:16:52] Speaker 2: I foster critical care or bottle fed kittens. I recently
[3:16:56] Speaker 2: lost one. I'm sorry to hear that, Ancient Warrior. It's
[3:16:59] Speaker 2: always hard to lose one. I don't think I missed
[3:17:01] Speaker 2: a show. But have you talked about your kittens names?
[3:17:05] Speaker 2: Sorry about pie? Well, thank you? I so the the
[3:17:08] Speaker 2: kittens are named Volta and Faraday, obviously because all my
[3:17:13] Speaker 2: pets have nerd names and my background is electrical engineering,
[3:17:17] Speaker 2: and uh, I think they're I think they're fantastic names. Actually,
[3:17:21] Speaker 2: I mean I get not everyone's gonna understand the references.
[3:17:25] Speaker 2: That's fine, I know, eyes, Why says Messiah? Can you
[3:17:29] Speaker 2: wash my feet and massage? I would indeed I would.
[3:17:33] Speaker 2: I would wash your feet uh and and even massage them.
[3:17:36] Speaker 2: I will, however, not clean out your tonail fungus. That's
[3:17:39] Speaker 2: that's on you. You got to deal with that yourself.
[3:17:41] Speaker 2: That's like an unclean spirit. Evan Rock, thank you for
[3:17:44] Speaker 2: the five dollars, super tight, says my wife wouldn't let
[3:17:47] Speaker 2: me leave the house in my Hebrew hymen costume, so
[3:17:50] Speaker 2: I'm here with our true Messiah instead. Happy mialowen to
[3:17:54] Speaker 2: you and Kitty well. Thank you, Evan Rock. Is good
[3:17:57] Speaker 2: to see you. And of all the emojis I've ever
[3:18:00] Speaker 2: put out on TikTok and YouTube, the Hebrew hymen is
[3:18:03] Speaker 2: my favorite emoji. I will never understand somebody who will
[3:18:08] Speaker 2: get up and read Deuteronomy twenty two with me, and
[3:18:12] Speaker 2: the apologetic is that Hebrew women had different hymens. I'll
[3:18:15] Speaker 2: never get over that apologetic. It's got to be my
[3:18:18] Speaker 2: favorite one.
[3:18:19] Speaker 7: Meg.
[3:18:20] Speaker 2: Thank you for the fight dollar super thanks. This was
[3:18:22] Speaker 2: that a new cat I saw earlier or one you
[3:18:25] Speaker 2: already had. I got two new kittens. I think you
[3:18:28] Speaker 2: guys are aware of this now, and they are affectionate
[3:18:31] Speaker 2: and sweet, sweet kitties, and they want to climb all
[3:18:35] Speaker 2: over me. They don't want me in this chair live
[3:18:37] Speaker 2: streaming right now. They want petted. And when I mean,
[3:18:41] Speaker 2: if you're a cute little kitty, of course you're gonna
[3:18:43] Speaker 2: want petted. What cat doesn't want to get pet obviously,
[3:18:46] Speaker 2: So that's what I'll be doing after this. I'm going
[3:18:49] Speaker 2: to be watching Dalton's live stream after I end here
[3:18:51] Speaker 2: and petting the cats. It's gonna be delightful. It's gonna
[3:18:54] Speaker 2: be a heaven on earth. Ersmont good to see you,
[3:18:57] Speaker 2: says there's no boulder harder than Doug and justin his
[3:19:00] Speaker 2: profit second straw to sixty six six. Indeed, I am
[3:19:05] Speaker 2: rock hard, and I'm I'm not just cubic zarconia hard.
[3:19:09] Speaker 2: I'm not just moistenite hard. I'm diamond hard for Doug. Also,
[3:19:14] Speaker 2: you can be moistenite for Sharon, because that's a good
[3:19:17] Speaker 2: double entendre there.
[3:19:18] Speaker 7: I like that one.
[3:19:19] Speaker 2: If you don't know what a moistenite is, I don't know,
[3:19:21] Speaker 2: you can google it. It's a fake diamond. It's it's
[3:19:23] Speaker 2: just as hard as diamonds, though it's just a it's
[3:19:25] Speaker 2: a man made one. It's way better than cubic zarconia.
[3:19:28] Speaker 2: Throw the Cubic Zarcodia is out, go moisten nite all
[3:19:30] Speaker 2: the way. Jeff says, can we stop the rapture talk
[3:19:34] Speaker 2: since the Messiah returned tonight. Indeed, the rapture talk is ended.
[3:19:38] Speaker 2: It's over. I'm here friends, what more proof do you need?
[3:19:41] Speaker 2: And Noko, thank you for sending out ten easy Debate memberships.
[3:19:45] Speaker 2: I super super appreciate that, friend, Big Big w And
[3:19:49] Speaker 2: also Noko, thank you for the twenty dollars super tie.
[3:19:53] Speaker 2: It says Happy Halloween. Instead of passing out candy, I'm
[3:19:55] Speaker 2: passing out spiritualized versions of candy. It wor's the candy, mister,
[3:20:01] Speaker 2: It's spiritual candy.
[3:20:03] Speaker 7: Oh.
[3:20:03] Speaker 2: I can envision it when kids ask what I'm dressed
[3:20:06] Speaker 2: up as, I'll tell them a bad hermineutic. This is amazing,
[3:20:09] Speaker 2: No coo, I love it. I love it. This is
[3:20:13] Speaker 2: I don't think the kids will appreciate it, but I
[3:20:15] Speaker 2: appreciate this. And Sonic Trump says a donation for Doug's Tabernacle,
[3:20:19] Speaker 2: Hot Rock Bar and grill. Well, thank you, Sonic Trume.
[3:20:23] Speaker 2: I appreciate that and the grill. The grilled room remains open. Luke,
[3:20:29] Speaker 2: thank you for the two hours supertest says for Sacramento, Kraken,
[3:20:32] Speaker 2: drink it on the rocks, and you know that I will.
[3:20:35] Speaker 2: My friend, well, I'll drink it. I don't say drink
[3:20:37] Speaker 2: it on the rocks, but I do like it on
[3:20:39] Speaker 2: the rocks. In the winter, I don't put it on
[3:20:41] Speaker 2: the rocks, but in the summer sometimes like in the
[3:20:42] Speaker 2: rocks because it gets hot outside. You know, you have
[3:20:45] Speaker 2: to cool off a little bit. And Eric says, I
[3:20:47] Speaker 2: used to think Jesus wasn't the Messiah before I really
[3:20:50] Speaker 2: studied the Bible. I still do, but I used to. Uh,
[3:21:00] Speaker 2: I think you're making a joke. I'm gonna double check.
[3:21:02] Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure. I used to think Jesus wasn't the Messiah,
[3:21:05] Speaker 2: and I still do. Okay, you still think that he's not.
[3:21:07] Speaker 2: Wed agree with you, Eric, he's not the Messiah. And Carlos,
[3:21:10] Speaker 2: thank you so so much for the two hundred and
[3:21:12] Speaker 2: mex of my friends. Is please get some treats for
[3:21:14] Speaker 2: your kid Happy Halloween. I will absolutely, and I'm even
[3:21:22] Speaker 2: with treats like candies. With my son, it's difficult. He's
[3:21:25] Speaker 2: very much. He knows exactly what he wants and he
[3:21:30] Speaker 2: doesn't like to try new things. It comes It's like
[3:21:32] Speaker 2: part of the territory of having a severely autistic child
[3:21:37] Speaker 2: is they really get embedded in routines. This is what
[3:21:40] Speaker 2: I want. I don't want anything else, even if it's
[3:21:42] Speaker 2: something you know they're gonna love, like a candy bar.
[3:21:45] Speaker 2: He will not eat a candy bar because it's not
[3:21:48] Speaker 2: on his list of these are my foods. So but yes,
[3:21:52] Speaker 2: I do try to routinely introduce him to stuff that
[3:21:55] Speaker 2: he'll love, stuff that I loved when I was a kid, obviously,
[3:21:59] Speaker 2: and Jay, thank you for the fight. Our super tip.
[3:22:01] Speaker 2: If your brother came on here and played the part
[3:22:03] Speaker 2: of Justin with just his own understanding of scripture, how
[3:22:06] Speaker 2: long would it take for us to notice? Well, you
[3:22:08] Speaker 2: noticed pretty quick. But that being said, he's no schlub,
[3:22:11] Speaker 2: like he's familiar with the book. Uh, he went to
[3:22:14] Speaker 2: school for youth ministry at Liberty too, so like he's
[3:22:18] Speaker 2: not he like he didn't attend seminary, but he knows
[3:22:21] Speaker 2: his stuff pretty well.
[3:22:23] Speaker 13: One of these days you just need to slip it
[3:22:24] Speaker 13: in where you just you just slip in your brother
[3:22:26] Speaker 13: and and see how long it takes me to realize
[3:22:30] Speaker 13: just talking to him before I figure out something's off
[3:22:33] Speaker 13: some people would be that it's a Gamey met my twin.
[3:22:39] Speaker 3: No, I haven't met him.
[3:22:40] Speaker 2: I didn't think so he's he sounds identical to me,
[3:22:43] Speaker 2: like if if you if you turn the camera off,
[3:22:47] Speaker 2: you wouldn't know which one's talking. Wow, it's pretty crazy.
[3:22:52] Speaker 3: Usually i'd be able to tell the difference because I
[3:22:54] Speaker 3: think I've seen you guys in pictures. But yeah, yeah,
[3:22:57] Speaker 3: that's it now. I've never heard his voice before.
[3:23:00] Speaker 2: But yeah, we're true identical twins. We got just a
[3:23:04] Speaker 2: couple more super chests left, and we're gonna go party
[3:23:05] Speaker 2: at Dalton's place. Guts says, Praise the Messiah justin, the
[3:23:08] Speaker 2: true son of Doug and Sharon. No grape of a
[3:23:11] Speaker 2: thirteen ye old required. Indeed, no true prophet of God
[3:23:15] Speaker 2: is going to grape a thirteen year old named Mary
[3:23:18] Speaker 2: or Mary a six year old named Ayisha. That's an abomination.
[3:23:23] Speaker 2: And Simeon, thank you for the ten hour super tie.
[3:23:27] Speaker 2: That says, if Dalton still needs a Bible Guy podcast cocktail,
[3:23:30] Speaker 2: I suggest the Weeping Jesus. It's a peach mixer with absinthe.
[3:23:36] Speaker 2: Apparently absinthe can be slightly hallucinating, so perfectly summarizes all
[3:23:40] Speaker 2: of Christianity. I love it.
[3:23:43] Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's great.
[3:23:44] Speaker 13: All I need is just to be sit there debating
[3:23:46] Speaker 13: someone who isn't there. That'd be fantastic.
[3:23:50] Speaker 2: I'm gonna get the ingredients to make a weeping Jesus
[3:23:53] Speaker 2: myself sometimes. Soon when I first started streaming, I had
[3:23:56] Speaker 2: cracking on the regular, which is why my men ship
[3:24:00] Speaker 2: is the Crack and Crew. I had to I had
[3:24:02] Speaker 2: to cut back though, because well for reasons, because there
[3:24:06] Speaker 2: are people I know that are recovered, like they're recovering alcoholics,
[3:24:10] Speaker 2: and I don't I don't want to trigger people, to
[3:24:11] Speaker 2: be honest, so I keep it to a minimum. What
[3:24:14] Speaker 2: are you gonna say?
[3:24:15] Speaker 1: Shut oh oh, I was.
[3:24:19] Speaker 3: Gonna say, if you're you're hallucinating your conversation, it will
[3:24:22] Speaker 3: probably be more interesting debate than what.
[3:24:25] Speaker 1: You Yeah, that's true.
[3:24:27] Speaker 13: Would just be uh my, my my favorite kind of
[3:24:30] Speaker 13: like it'd be a perfect Christian who could actually quote scripture.
[3:24:33] Speaker 13: Would be the most entertained I've probably ever been.
[3:24:37] Speaker 2: I would tune in for adult and debates himself, debate
[3:24:41] Speaker 2: and smack thank you for the fifty eight oh cases,
[3:24:45] Speaker 2: just tuned in justin you look and chanting as a babushka.
[3:24:51] Speaker 2: I have to say, well, thank you. Do you have
[3:24:53] Speaker 2: any old wife's cure to provide to stave off gout
[3:25:00] Speaker 2: and consumption? I can't say that.
[3:25:03] Speaker 25: I do.
[3:25:05] Speaker 2: I listen. Even though I am the Messiah, I do
[3:25:08] Speaker 2: believe in modern medicine. If you've got gout, you got
[3:25:11] Speaker 2: to see a doctor to get that taken care of.
[3:25:15] Speaker 2: My father would have said something stupid and ridiculous like
[3:25:18] Speaker 2: put which hazel on it. But that's please, don't do that.
[3:25:21] Speaker 2: Which Hazel won't care anything. It's basically like putting wind
[3:25:24] Speaker 2: decks on your skin. It's not gonna do anything. But
[3:25:28] Speaker 2: you know the old wives tales, the old wives cyrings,
[3:25:32] Speaker 2: medictional applications of old or fun. Evan says, never half
[3:25:37] Speaker 2: ass anything, always use both cheeks. Agreed, you never need
[3:25:41] Speaker 2: to half ass anything when you can whole ass it,
[3:25:43] Speaker 2: for sure. And Viking chef again, good to see. He says,
[3:25:47] Speaker 2: a great song by snot my ball's your chin. It's
[3:25:51] Speaker 2: a banger, dug and chair and provides, indeed it would
[3:25:55] Speaker 2: be a banger. You get it, anyone get it? I
[3:25:59] Speaker 2: think got it? Yeah, that was good, Thank you, chef.
[3:26:03] Speaker 2: I hope you're doing well, friend, Trump failed. Ha haa
[3:26:07] Speaker 2: easy on the Irish jokes we got our white card
[3:26:10] Speaker 2: when the Italians came immigrating. I mean that is the case.
[3:26:15] Speaker 2: The Irish did not have a smooth landing in the Americas.
[3:26:21] Speaker 2: It wasn't a good time for them. They had to
[3:26:22] Speaker 2: struggle pretty mightily. And red Link says, my faith and
[3:26:27] Speaker 2: Doug will break iron chariots unlike that other God. Indeed, listen,
[3:26:33] Speaker 2: what did they use in catapults to destroy iron chariots?
[3:26:37] Speaker 2: Walls and other weapons of war? Large large stones. Indeed,
[3:26:45] Speaker 2: no iron chariot will could do anything. The dog he's
[3:26:48] Speaker 2: not scared whatsoever. And last super chat from Nero's brother
[3:26:52] Speaker 2: from another mother, thank you so much, says lying was
[3:26:55] Speaker 2: a sin apparently unless you did it outrageously and persistently enough,
[3:26:59] Speaker 2: in which case that qualifies as scripture as long as
[3:27:04] Speaker 2: no one's there to fact check. You rock hard for Dougs,
[3:27:08] Speaker 2: simply wet for Sharon, simply stop and wet for Sharon.
[3:27:12] Speaker 2: I see doublesses six x' six hell bro Well, thank
[3:27:15] Speaker 2: you Nero's brother, I really appreciate that. And friends, that
[3:27:19] Speaker 2: is the end of our special Halloween live stream. Thank
[3:27:22] Speaker 2: you so much for being here daw in the Bible
[3:27:25] Speaker 2: guys about to go live on TikTok. We're gonna go
[3:27:27] Speaker 2: join him over there, and then hopefully in the coming days,
[3:27:31] Speaker 2: we're gonna get his computer set up so he can
[3:27:33] Speaker 2: stream to TikTok and YouTube at the same time, and
[3:27:36] Speaker 2: then we can send people over to his live stream
[3:27:39] Speaker 2: on both YouTube and TikTok.
[3:27:42] Speaker 7: Yeah.
[3:27:42] Speaker 13: Now that I've got this tower here, I'm gonna like
[3:27:45] Speaker 13: buy a monitor and keyboard, and actually, like tomorrow I'll
[3:27:49] Speaker 13: go Amazon shopping for those things. And everyone just give
[3:27:52] Speaker 13: me a couple of minutes because I got to use
[3:27:53] Speaker 13: the restroom, and then we'll start the live.
[3:27:56] Speaker 2: Here's all right, friends, Love you, take care of yourselves,
[3:27:59] Speaker 2: pet your cats and dogs, and be good to your
[3:28:01] Speaker 2: kids and family, and we'll see you again in a
[3:28:04] Speaker 2: couple of days.
[3:28:05] Speaker 4: Chat.
[3:28:05] Speaker 2: It was so good, senior friend. I hope you're doing
[3:28:07] Speaker 2: well and we'll see you tomorrow.
[3:28:11] Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, I'm heading over to Daltons as well, so
[3:28:13] Speaker 3: I guess I'll see you all over there too.
[3:28:15] Speaker 2: It's cheers, friends,

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