# INTERVIEW with Marina Abramović & Blenard Azizaj

An episode of [Nie-winna Sztuka](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1834906739), 15 Jan 2026, 1 h 26 min.

Audio: https://anchor.fm/s/9531ea30/podcast/play/114058319/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-0-15%2F416198132-44100-2-b3dbe4b011b35.mp3

Kto by się spodziewał, że zrobię taki wywiad? Na pewno nie ja! Ale porozmawiałam sobie z Mariną i Blenardem, mam nadzieję, że się Wam spodoba i sami postanowicie wybrać się na Balkan Erotic Epic, czyli największe dzieło jakie kiedykolwiek stworzyła Marina, by zamknąć poprzednie rozdziały i skupić się na tym co teraz! To jeszcze nie koniec mojej przygody z tą dwójką, więc bądźcie czujni, bo ja już nie mogę się doczekać tego co wydarzy się w tym roku! Miłego słuchania, Marika Szwal. Post na instagramie: https://www.instagram.com/p/DTdzqndjYnZ/?img_index=1 Patronite: https://patronite.pl/niewinnasztuka Sklep: https://www.szwalmarika.com

## Transcript

[0:00] Cześć. Witam was w innym wywiadzie z
[0:03] mariną abramowicz i. Z okazji najnowszego performansu
[0:08] balkan erotic epik, na którym zresztą miałam przyjemność być
[0:13] niedawno w Manchesterze. Wiecie, podobno już nie da się
[0:15] nic nowego wymyślić w sztuce i nie tylko, ale Marina abramowicz
[0:21] pokazała, że można stworzyć coś, czego jeszcze nikt nie zrobił.
[0:25] Blend asizay to choreograf, który jest głównym choreografem
[0:28] balcan erotic epik pracował przy tych wszystkich 13
[0:32] performansach, a nawet w jednym brał udział, a z racji.
[0:36] Użyłam nowy niewinny odcinek o balkan erotica epic, no to
[0:40] chciałam się Marine i lenarda o co nieco podpytać, więc już nie
[0:43] przedłużam i zapraszam was do słuchania tego co mają nam do
[0:48] powiedzenia. O ola.
[0:52] Ja jem na wh. I see you i looks soc.
[0:58] Halo. Halo.
[1:01] Marina. Jest.
[1:05] Ale o meritum lenard. Ok.
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[1:22] Mariner wysłosek to nauka. O maj god już tu.
[1:40] Wróciła i never down is before thank you.
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[2:24] hught i love it i was impress and i always say like beggar is
[2:29] better so i think we are all like about manathings so the
[2:34] first sing is men a people say they don't understand art.
[2:38] In General. Czyli performance it's like hard
[2:41] to understand i min like the people who's it my podcast you
[2:45] not normal people not the people from art Industry.
[2:50] I think like in meny years of education maidens believe that
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[2:57] understand art what i think it's really like not through baday
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[3:09] leasing is to people who are and sure if the can come to balcan
[3:14] erotic appel. Lenard can you start for the
[3:16] normal people i will after. We don't hear you blenard.
[3:27] Na ziemi ok są Ameryka thank you so gen for this amazing podcast
[3:34] and keep sing some of your Things you are doing cool Things
[3:38] for Poland i all that you have all this people's fall z you
[3:43] can't learn a lot of Things from you and the people and the teams
[3:47] at you thatch very nice. Thank you so much and were.
[3:51] Were happy to be it's post in the podcast inne in Poland są
[3:56] regarding the questions that you see before before about art
[3:59] General about about balkan arritic epic.
[4:03] Sim si en go mordim musiom się performance is see different
[4:09] kind performance of arts because now we are living different
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[4:48] That's a lot of. Things, the inside osoba
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[4:57] like pornografii, or i don't o how the people can resive that
[5:00] that that peace. With i'm talking of from my side
[5:04] with bill invited from rea to be the choreograf firm of this
[5:09] peace the Concept and all the everything golds is of marinass
[5:15] because it's it's one of her like big production that is
[5:20] everything we really had. A Great time by creating that
[5:25] weather crazy Great team of people the really brother on
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[5:38] about love about about. Watch out there mylily mithings
[5:44] with Marine as all will just mention the be the selbert this
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[6:07] in oktober we had the premier in faction the National and you
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[6:22] Say with is that does people got reason with is the could find
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[6:32] O jest ja of course of są this is this is are the Things on the
[6:38] say it now. O is question i full me.
[6:45] Because you question was how norma people cool action go SC
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[7:26] the. Michaela your work about not
[7:30] because the art have to have like that can't talk to
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[7:53] President of the country. My work is emotional and i like
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[8:19] When i talk with my lisiners i always say like you don't have
[8:23] to understand you don't have to have the background it's good.
[8:26] Bath you have to like feel? The art it's the easyr and the
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[8:43] and i no Marina you are from ex jugosławia from albania są do
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[8:53] From your childhood when you were Young another than one ball
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[9:11] inną Syrię, ortodoks how have lost reaches celebrating all
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[10:02] and how we can extra played and in this is in this content.
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[11:14] men, so they dress Apple man day the day talk like a man the
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[11:52] No i think about the slavic red walls and we have everything is
[11:56] about love and in this really really expansive program for six
[12:00] proces i remember we have like seven Racing peace like look
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[12:09] with the Bridge and the House this us really funny for me and
[12:14] my question is like buting. The most important sing in life
[12:21] cost everything was about love. This i we hoes in this moment
[12:26] for this is the most basicly right now jest spending this
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[14:16] Jest one thing the World examsions important importer.
[14:22] No jest if you Putin i don't clean dead contest i'm really
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[14:33] Mówię o border. Ing the so important to me right
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[15:14] Są i have question about this coast you have than men many
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[15:21] World. And winow, it's like really big
[15:24] crysis we can see live really bad Things right obficie the
[15:29] World is really cruel so what Impact do you think back and
[15:33] erotic epic will have on the people who to partinet or maybe
[15:38] on the worlds you no you are Marine abramowicz you can user
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[15:44] I. Really want to ask you person
[15:47] question, what is Impact, the new i can't can't predict what
[15:51] Impact on to have because be very i credible.
[15:56] I really want to see how public nobody's in different.
[16:01] Public to the show nobody, sting, uspor.
[16:07] No there action is Extreme positive.
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[16:17] Import this is the time to see i want ask i no what you think the
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[16:29] Yy. Sorry.
[16:34] We were suprise because normally normally were waiting for were
[16:40] also expecting for. For negative crities islam with
[16:48] is like Marina want to do book with that with this is not the
[16:52] problem os of for me because we learn from that a lot bad we had
[16:59] like in from all the International newspape pers for.
[17:03] Stars. With this is this is as never
[17:05] happen before in the skall of. Performance like like like so
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[19:01] the public choice is very difficult of the Forest
[19:04] something you cit on the seat and you don't like it all you
[19:07] want to go and you can't of Force to this this is the
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[19:17] that can't way sudet really Creed to the new four of art.
[19:22] In theater, so, it's can't pety be the.
[19:27] Like this days it's really hard to creates something you and you
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[19:44] bad even i was and i'm not prother really i was show.
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[19:54] Because normally Works what if oso here the here General about
[20:01] about the Works of Marina because every you go you'a to go
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[22:15] everybody's looking at is can't wow, i'm no this something no
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[23:04] the all the all Energy Energy the is created.
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[23:13] i and dead, but you have to when we say that and the people when
[23:17] when people haven't weitness that it hard to it's hard on the
[23:22] stand and that the moment. It's it's easy to get Things.
[23:26] No we have to we have to we have to live the Things and whitney
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[23:36] about. About the ok.
[23:41] Please, please please. Remember the moment when she
[23:46] inviciu for the balkan erotic epic boot the you feel no it's
[23:50] like big deal for and artist working with somebody big like
[23:54] Marina abramowicz jest jej. Moment actually i tell the
[23:58] stories in all the. No web.
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[24:05] it's started. The stories.
[24:08] Title like a really really like was it is a crazy to jest really
[24:11] fast so all the all the story, the story behind it is the
[24:16] started from from Berlina ac czyli into hashent toni three
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[24:25] working with my now. In a the peace.
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[24:58] Music with is was. Very deep very Beautiful all the
[25:03] no how to discrib and i started to move i started to dance like
[25:07] it the Music tooks me our są an dna procent what is this Music
[25:11] World you wery from and x pinto miałam from Serbii.
[25:15] Oku i'm from all benia n we kind of connected that with Instagram
[25:20] n that was it will never metin. And.
[25:24] Then Marina jest amen i tolley ma that Night of course theme
[25:29] choreograffer and the cit, but with med with have dinner what
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[25:36] And. Marina The Times, looking for
[25:39] choreograffords for this is Speed.
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[25:48] Roots the head ball są list with main people Contact it at the
[25:54] people around some how no one was the one.
[26:00] Perfect for here to. Są one day i was home was
[26:08] angenery shift the call from from england normaly i don't
[26:13] open, the cold i don't have them i World the beatles to Speed is
[26:16] to me, słuchaj, what i did i this light image na the most
[26:21] deport of your life after the rap all rafing the egzekutywy
[26:31] abramowicz and i was like what is this now.
[26:34] Dreams NI sed like we looking for choreograf for backend or
[26:39] the gapik and if you can Marina out love to have a call a zoom
[26:43] call with you in the days. And i was.
[26:45] Still shock the what is happening here?
[26:49] And. Then.
[26:52] This. N.
[26:56] A se three days i was like my god is.
[26:59] Speak with Marina. I no like i was of course very
[27:02] sejm time i could believe that and then we spoke.
[27:07] Będę of course s soi challenger with the first started to speak
[27:12] and some how weath new that this full work most i from a rina.
[27:18] Jeżeli from me because itd. Ok never no bad.
[27:23] Dyskurs sorry really it cool. Story and the start just like
[27:26] that and the endem s starting sld for we set o k Marina to my
[27:33] lock let's meet in. Manchester we have Research.
[27:37] Wender and everything went really nice and then you are.
[27:44] Everybody better than him because all Bayern so important
[27:48] was i no to be from the region because you on the stands with
[27:54] tok sejm, sejm stories, sejm can't visual elements, the
[27:58] really moves as sejm kind of no article you to about life is
[28:02] incredible i can't have ebody a just to work with Damian j.
[28:08] Trzeba. Cyfry.
[28:10] Posyp the Bełchatów. Na pewno jest the only way to
[28:17] this peace and really is a matching heaven i think to of us
[28:21] because i'm learning im bot long the ratio and hill dance.
[28:28] Etka. Fanaber was assin were you booth
[28:31] were citting on the table so like i Medical i Sound this was
[28:35] a Reference to the artist is present like one of your family
[28:40] performance with blenard as ola were the like more easter eggs
[28:46] in bal can'erothic epic. Cos this was the One i was.
[28:50] Thinking about this. I złos easy i now.
[28:53] No. No deko.
[28:57] Really interesting i just can i no etson can't play peacedrom
[29:02] mają live są inną one wóz the one the artists present people,
[29:07] see byt i no after SI work with all i then the action everybody
[29:13] seat of positive me was everybody from the public so the
[29:17] actually present different simbles can't be allly sombody
[29:21] interpretation be hands i locity o pozytywnymi and have this
[29:25] moment DNA Little tango tango dancing.
[29:28] With really is the specially The Last nas jest important to me
[29:33] because is really deal see the all melancholii of the east
[29:38] block the one. Kind of lost Souls of this no
[29:44] and happy is about universe, so sudet iscanum ending that kind
[29:48] of inną mód and everything as is falling, apart and i no you just
[29:53] last image cdsus can't of really the very very can't can't of
[29:58] child hood i DSA head about ending.
[30:02] Usługę cius really Young. Są jugona be apart of balkan
[30:07] erotic epic in every country like in everything, Berlin,
[30:11] Barcelona, New York and hong kong orden.
[30:15] Going to i really want the ally time that i'm takie no to be is
[30:21] no get in this because we absolutely sen the god and a
[30:26] Speed the invitation to go to to czas zmienia w The big festiwal
[30:32] i czy jest now i john a this came so prodiction bo to me and
[30:36] i'm really working on the very big show the them in rome and
[30:41] also the tashed book backend rother is impossible for me this
[30:45] is also the peace that. Jedną z bill the way that
[30:49] develop inną without me every time, bo to jest problem.
[30:54] I don't want to be distrips twenty six source enery have to
[30:58] do something that i'm ready jedno commit myself disclaimer
[31:02] aspekt będę hongkong definitely everyther Press kind about.
[31:07] Disco z jedną miles want go to this performance of they have to
[31:11] know were Marina will be. Okej?
[31:19] Juno i want tak about danica i was reading your biografie true
[31:25] wall was and i was laki cos i soul danica in or g scarletton o
[31:33] RGN in cafana są i really you know i know the story about
[31:37] danica, it's danica not danica right it's danica je and i soul
[31:42] interview with you like we can't go with the Strange, British guy
[31:46] and your say about this like you found your mother's direct.
[31:50] Kiniu termino i am really curie's.
[31:54] If you think your relationship will be different with your
[31:57] mother if you wood find the dire before she diet or relation with
[32:02] yourself. Absolutnie by different even one
[32:07] page lub different badań read because here really washy Creed
[32:12] sentymentu i no są full full of the can of point righting the
[32:18] points staffrey that be the sejm Times i was very cold a religant
[32:23] the stoo this you want to make me World heaven the this is my.
[32:30] Su Maria stameco with charakter i need to liberation your from
[32:33] all of this and this is. Some.
[32:37] Ja s. All i'm telly you this Speed for
[32:40] miejscu i kredytów important that moment cofane every time
[32:44] idą wszystko mi tu work with the blender and timothy a imię tylko
[32:50] there to see liberation over over is very teropoetic formie
[32:56] is Extreme theopetics i'm really free from all this repression
[33:00] Effect. Your math about the performance
[33:07] and the katana. She absolutnie.
[33:16] Test in the madre i no i The mather i'm no Indie she on the
[33:22] stand są i don't know what mother this is past and you
[33:27] can't not River. Ok.
[33:30] Suplement aboutka fana i to ready bad this one of my
[33:34] favorite performance cos was different you know like you had
[33:38] funt Aleksander and with danica with Marina and.
[33:43] Every else were safering you now they were like in paint they
[33:47] were the head seks with ons są tę mnie about the fana the fun
[33:52] and Energy everything. Place.
[33:58] In during the process. It place is like a turn with.
[34:04] No there you go you have fan you have your Fleet Things, you can
[34:10] als of Fight you can also have seks you can also no celebrate
[34:18] get druh get way place of freedom, some how it's a place
[34:23] of being you badoo osób i can Resident because oso.
[34:28] We have it all benie about have i live in greed ass of mini
[34:32] years. Łaza łoza place, olso fine i
[34:36] found this freedom is well of me or going back to my memories or
[34:45] Things that have lost the forgotten and there sorry a
[34:52] could Connect with all of this memories plus the motions imie.
[34:58] Nne it's it's it's a place with everything is along there all in
[35:02] the in the in the peace in the performance.
[35:06] Meliners ja do k let's go, let's seat haven't and every Night all
[35:10] most when we have the shows the were new Things new element you.
[35:17] Not all of this is like free style.
[35:19] No no no. Free style don't get me rong,
[35:22] it, Polsat script, bad the World, also place the were you
[35:27] can ed more elements, if you feield.
[35:32] And we will out this freedom to have because when i min freedom
[35:37] but was a freedom that you could really be real not just no i
[35:41] play play the only thing that you can Express or do you have
[35:46] to be real the. Soul są i had a had a had a lot
[35:49] of fun. N all the most important thing
[35:52] is like the dance s Marina set before jest this the most
[35:57] important thing for in all of this show i because.
[36:02] I no it's. You could?
[36:06] Collection. All what is happening the
[36:08] standing from a very beginning and then the ending is like this
[36:11] one gives the in the. Ja go z jedną amcures if the
[36:17] paint's always a part of performance.
[36:22] In my case. In am talk about my w tym.
[36:29] Momencie. Roz dupce w misie zum czy mnie
[36:32] to dziwi? W.
[36:34] Ogóle a nie szkodzi, może kiedyś będzie okazja jeszcze dokończyć
[36:39] ten Wywiad? Marina już poszła na inny
[36:41] Wywiad, ale jest, dzwoniłam się jeszcze na chwilę z lenardem,
[36:44] żeby no domknąć klamrą ten piękny nomen omen.
[36:50] Podcast. Nie podcast Wywiad.
[36:53] Hej, ola como jest ta Barcelona? Barcelona sfera momentu ok.
[37:06] Penisz. Maj god i.
[37:10] Speak greek i speak, italian i speak English i speak.
[37:19] End Germain obite. Drive.
[37:27] Ok. To end our conversation co
[37:31] Weekend fake it is like different day we have you no.
[37:36] Of war now ok show. Me.
[37:43] Są sami there. Ała amsu gel plenert halo taki
[37:50] do gis o my gap a lot of them. The best aria o Barcelona to
[37:57] jest chilly, here's well. My Brothers place is not my
[38:04] place. Są drzeły z kama ju now in
[38:09] Poland now we have a lot of snow.
[38:12] All my. God i most red na about about i
[38:17] love no. Co maryka you good the red is
[38:23] very good on you thank you. Grass.
[38:28] And i love your most też. I'm like a don't don Diego, the
[38:33] la vega, skoro zoro zorro, a. Jej zorro jurajbaty ok.
[38:42] Są start am not good good interview.
[38:48] The first question, Barcelona now and we talk about this o
[38:53] ready bad can you tell as about the differences between
[38:57] Manchester and Barcelona about balkan erotyk epic.
[39:02] Są. There to versions of balkan
[39:05] erodica epic one version is were House version with this like
[39:10] like almost twenty aids thousand Square mithes is like a small
[39:14] village when we have divide the peace Inter team stages when
[39:19] people can't going interact and going different in different of
[39:23] this. Performance happening the sejm
[39:26] tam tylko za sejm time the performance jest.
[39:31] Łaj wear, the verge is the feather vergen Łódź jest like
[39:33] Classic all version już tej justice in the go on jeden jest
[39:38] show and. The rease you can't going side
[39:43] Stage byli Justin, head of hear of arm.
[39:48] Są this is a version i started a work in the.
[39:54] Of the Camera, where the game Manchester.
[39:56] To work with people with the dancers that children and worn
[39:58] be last people inne in the feather vergen always when you
[40:04] gonna when the all around the World NA work with them and it's
[40:08] quite quit quit nights like it's now lecimy feather with.
[40:14] All. No.
[40:15] Dary sejm people from the people head like a dancers i heads like
[40:20] 45 flow i host like forty ok. Ok.
[40:25] It is the it is the very i think it's go very challenging one są
[40:31] were also speaking with Marina and the team to no jest to, to
[40:36] to be together and this beat coherent how one menedżer są we
[40:42] started next week we start next week we go and re hearts i have
[40:48] to re hearts in the feather with and.
[40:51] I have to hear is like some days and think that the could and
[40:55] managed tour your Heart in Manchester like the death dance
[40:58] and will have like. Short Vision of it like really
[41:03] ten mind here to jest also very challenging because the time is
[41:09] really. It's really is lito.
[41:13] Short ok. A lot of work i remember you to
[41:18] me this can't be like a bit spoiler bad you will don't have
[41:23] rain but you will have snow in Barcelona.
[41:28] Win Barcelona that should because the rain for technical
[41:32] reasons is it's not possible in this time i think may be next
[41:37] time all fine way ba this time all this know in the end to
[41:42] because. Jest dając to git with Marina
[41:46] and this is another another Vision not Vision sorry this is
[41:51] the dancehd anchester dancehind it was i this three big.
[41:57] Beautiful monsters Beautiful costumes and that know there są
[42:03] nd n were tright to to have all of this orchestrated together
[42:09] like them and then mean Renault will be the girl osoby kahana
[42:13] sahal and the eugeronictwo snow in the n Battle.
[42:17] No i think like Manchester version version was the best.
[42:22] Jest aj aj aj believe soul but let's see because i don't have
[42:27] opiniun yes about this version now because with do it są may
[42:31] Weekend talk about it's another time when this premie will be
[42:36] here and this is the computer Łódź jest the best different is
[42:40] not on the because everything is it's choreograf.
[42:43] It's is Stage to be the sejm every time it the space.
[42:47] Gonna be different. The Energy of the space
[42:50] different your right absolutnie absolutnie.
[42:54] Remember maybe Marina State about about this like the place
[42:57] in Manchester in Aviva. Głos the place inspired her for
[43:02] make this that beat you now this.
[43:05] Is stroo because i Michelle when we wender to work with Aviva
[43:10] Studios were sposób weather version with it to ours pat.
[43:14] Inną Marina Marina, sformule day are like a long ration of and
[43:18] the sea is like to ares, a one our to ares for here i what is
[43:22] this is the soul and them we went to steel spacerach jest tej
[43:28] resort the space of Marina. Was more money for the people
[43:35] there to fajne managed and we managed to make it sully as you
[43:42] also with it there's i. Was laki that through.
[43:47] Cost last time when we talk Weekend.
[43:51] Weekend with the question about the paint always the pain is
[43:56] always part of the performance the.
[43:59] Pains of because i don't you with just second, because i road
[44:05] something yesterday to find it what i set o KOK.
[44:12] Because the Night i wonder remember the.
[44:16] I want to remembrid. Głos za można osoby having jest
[44:22] wtedy. I had tłumacz o my god.
[44:28] Crazy bo jest good nowhere still and.
[44:35] Show i'm sting, the pain is it's it's it one possible.
[44:41] Linguig for the performance, but is not the essence.
[44:44] Okej, o. That it's nice that Things.
[44:47] Są performance can coast can't cross borders.
[44:53] The boys of presents, vulobility and.
[44:59] Desert the Things, bad the pain is one post to language for
[45:03] performed is not the essence the one State you and because this
[45:07] is the dan before I Main meny years ago all a Marine has dany
[45:12] thank of World, but now you are we have Other top picture talk
[45:15] about is not on the pain są now because World the World and the
[45:21] life will now it's is always. It talk about think but with to
[45:26] fine Wayne within with being this pain on Stage.
[45:31] Tu sam how to bring sam light and light minds in the soul pod
[45:37] asfalt, a hope the people can find because all was are carring
[45:42] our crossing is life right we have all at our our problem is
[45:47] or i don't know how we can call them South out win my in my in
[45:52] my in my work i'm trafił to find.
[45:59] In medium to bring the boast the boast the boost ways that you
[46:06] can't see theme badaniu sobie a bad is one.
[46:11] Do pienin osób can have can have no a way how you can transformed
[46:15] and fine the light and fine the way out to make the how to make
[46:21] light the life no. A i feel like that because i'm.
[46:28] I see that we are sock soft temperalin this World and life
[46:34] and art are really? Connected like strongly
[46:38] together. Believed all people are artist
[46:42] in the way bat some. Praktycznie ten sam nos.
[46:46] Everybody can't be or artist. No i think we are all we are all
[46:53] we are all we have i think were all percents of gods.
[47:00] Please we are. Sendies of being good all was
[47:05] all people in the planet because we are Inter twin with the
[47:09] universe were Inter twin with everything with the Nature with
[47:12] everything. I no.
[47:15] Bad i disa Green i don't think everybody can't be an artist.
[47:20] My with it's on way it like from me on to like a good chef in
[47:27] rest is an artis. This is true o KOKI can't think
[47:33] like this in this way i can't agree.
[47:38] Way because it's involve the estetic insight.
[47:43] Jest. Ja.
[47:45] Bardzo shot hard like for for ours you have to do one thing
[47:50] with your bad is like. Of course, but then first of all
[47:55] the artists all the artist with the old artis are beat.
[48:00] Masaż jest no ale o k. Lista.
[48:04] Mind. All them they the main thing is
[48:09] a paint in the concentrated to the paintball formie.
[48:13] Personel to ja mieli artykule, bo all is paint i want
[48:17] transformers light and the hope for.
[48:20] You was easyr cos you were exciting in cafana or drinking
[48:24] you now not all the time doing one thing.
[48:30] Like crazy i no. I was dancing.
[48:32] Crazy later around that also for me dances been of the protest of
[48:37] vist one. Mam ten film dezerter created
[48:41] peace, lot of head, the lot of waiting my shoulders no a
[48:44] everyone's but talking to bring the Things together the dance
[48:48] and how to communicate how to bring people together this is
[48:51] this is this is these of pain is this is the ecological pain Łódź
[48:54] goes and badia tak bodaj min. It steel paint i remember.
[48:59] You told me you cree the choreographic for ballcan erotic
[49:02] epic for for days or something like this.
[49:05] It is was almost for days. In provization everything.
[49:11] Everything was like in counts ok.
[49:16] Forty five minutes the World, peace, the World like fifty
[49:18] minutes one our no. Night dance example was like
[49:24] forty five minutes fifty minus forty five like the Black
[49:29] wedding with was like fifty minutes o k all.
[49:32] Of this peace. The death dance that Ghost all
[49:35] run for one, our but i no jest to sam repetitions oso.
[49:40] All this i didn't for days mhm. I'm in not all inforth it peace
[49:47] i didn't in for days within bit in Other case is to do one of
[49:52] the peace you need may be one have manthers and level.
[49:55] Jest on. You love the healthy do that i
[49:59] don't know how it do that. Badał włoskim Bogdan stadium
[50:05] that i'm a tak n pers personally this peace no i love this peace
[50:11] and this peace for meet it will before eternity i because it's a
[50:15] peace is one life Times, bo wspomniał nobody ten and it's
[50:19] it's gave me lot of. Frankf.
[50:24] I też winy sq a have learn all aways how to proach my technic
[50:29] and how to do dance dark i can't put amade colors i no like.
[50:37] This game osob more life like a self confidence.
[50:46] Darmen Things no you no people are mnie it's like it's like a
[50:50] it's it's like a bird of like a World is a World i to jest.
[50:55] I remember like you said something like Marina gave lot
[50:59] of freedom są it's the reason you had a lot of self confidents
[51:03] absolutnie. Because i am a person time i'm a
[51:06] hard work always been a hard work and all so i have i have a
[51:10] lot of Energy as a person like i have my our all it's very stron
[51:16] ben Force thome people, this can be good coo nos and for some
[51:20] people this can beet like weird no because.
[51:25] It's hard maver noc like i'm not a completed i'm not the hard
[51:30] person in a way to collaboratory with person i never never create
[51:33] problems for example i never in my Works never create problems,
[51:37] some how Other environments i reese five no like problems from
[51:42] nowhere mhm i on jest ten. Other people or you prefer just
[51:47] making something by yourself. I let's work without people, but
[51:52] now in this case in my life i know what i don't like to do you
[51:57] and that's very important. Do you like?
[52:01] Słuchaj i know it home wanna collaborator of course live and
[52:06] people are always the can't suprise you can never now person
[52:11] full Follow because it's is the process of life, but i work a
[52:17] lot of estee last time i work with my i d wisien a lot with my
[52:22] with feeling the people and the good of that i'm good of
[52:25] creeding good groups. To create good people, even
[52:29] sometimes to create from nowhere nothing from Zero i can't take
[52:33] is people if i see the day is something there.
[52:37] I on jest ten. I light's process and indyjskiej
[52:43] when Marina są jest występ dla sejm with sport.
[52:47] Było shino ze noise NI know that chinols and it's so Beautiful to
[52:57] to witness here no House, you workshouse i words House.
[53:05] Think House. Things House operated with the
[53:10] people no because it's it's noth art for to create a World within
[53:14] a World the small World you and. The washed jest to dla ten mi
[53:20] Łódź maybe jeden no it and see me this freedom, to go on tools
[53:26] the people's it only you too's the people and work by the
[53:29] people i want. End o wow i will no me we will
[53:35] no chiller i on like this thing made me like wow click.
[53:41] In this moment like i think you are art sol made or something
[53:45] like this. Were still there?
[53:48] World and when when the person i think it makes when the someone
[53:53] dive is space. You no what happeneds that the
[53:59] Things the Works activities, the even more.
[54:04] Musi expected as n outcome. Because you feel apried.
[54:11] Nrd jest nic osób nic the count spad jest osób sąsiedzi dent n
[54:17] very thank the. Chłop i gather back.
[54:22] Say this o ready on our interview time i.
[54:27] Remember. I love this work i love art.
[54:31] I love i love people where we are Special as well.
[54:35] We have something to give you to learn from something that they
[54:40] are i love in rocity i love that that's art no that art is well.
[54:47] Epic as not just you no like fun it something murder.
[54:57] Because in balcan erotic epic there fertin thirtin stages i
[55:02] know and the in the station of different the motions in all
[55:05] theme. The lot of Things, lot of
[55:11] imotions sedness happiness, fill days, all involved fill.
[55:20] Passion days all involved death you can't idea all the motions
[55:25] of life, isin, the some with everyone.
[55:31] I gest can't get in ball can get light like.
[55:36] N Express, student like to feel to going side and Travel you
[55:39] feel like. Everybody will feel this or
[55:42] understand this i don't. Think it everybody will a
[55:45] standard because this also it's it depends.
[55:51] From the from the life experience that everyone has had
[55:55] the rose of the may all about the.
[56:00] Cultural cultural side because it's is were coming from the
[56:05] ball cander. Interview ani i think everybody
[56:10] everybody will find a way to connected this peace because in
[56:14] were all humans and we shir the sejm i motions and the same
[56:18] sorris. But you can't.
[56:22] Imagine how i feel the after balcan erotic epic.
[56:27] Więc, no ale to jest Beautiful is the osob, maybe nosa, katar,
[56:32] plik PiS i no. Mniej.
[56:34] Bije. It's really you is really is a
[56:41] osób prowokacji win a way like has some parts.
[56:45] Bates what is here, it's here it her World, sam how i could see
[56:50] to her World Tour Concept after fine on i on jest this was the
[56:57] like this collaboration was host Fashion.
[57:00] Bad you did a lock of work you now for can erotic epic it's
[57:04] like you feel like this is your performance 2.
[57:12] I min. Is the is the performance of
[57:14] everyone i have i was more in the in the movement paragraf i
[57:20] no więc performance of the of the light design jest
[57:22] performance performance. No do z Marina.
[57:27] A. Imię see the one is like is a
[57:31] family some family of this ball radic the one is part of this is
[57:35] it a branch of this of this source of no let's of art of
[57:43] Energy of the like everyone is related samo to that peace nie.
[57:49] I no. Everyone.
[57:52] Są why not i can't Call of my peese but a peace that as been
[57:57] with a nather team no ja. The questions rock cost my
[58:02] English jest shit. Ups, no no.
[58:04] Problem bad albo was był n was a team was team that all the
[58:09] collaborated so strong and so hard and everybody work because
[58:13] was a really fast everything. Wapno level time.
[58:18] No w tam na badam stwo prepper for tam looking forward to start
[58:23] is new version with the lot of Energy and will and Beautiful by
[58:29] n ja i wanna joy life, no i wanna joy life osad true art but
[58:34] als of through the true people like people like family or
[58:38] Sunday is co important i want to leave the now.
[58:43] So much because is is down thing that we have real is the now the
[58:49] rest is memories. Organ Things and ever come no i
[58:52] sobie najlepiej Future never comes no to tomorrow never comes
[58:57] or comes in a different way time always cancells big planes.
[59:04] Nothing i. Plan, but i Plan in whiled i
[59:07] can't stand stand film to zębat owszem not get Heart in no
[59:12] because there is through the expectation you can really get
[59:15] Heart so i'm am i'm coaches hej. I make be plants of course, bo
[59:22] tam coach to jest tyle aa. Bardzo ja w tym joy because.
[59:28] Bati sing now you will have time for en joint live if you have to
[59:32] work a lot with barkan erotykatica epic you.
[59:38] Will Travel a lot. I my life always find the way to
[59:41] find joy i important from the joy all the way for you work and
[59:46] is your. Favorit joy in life.
[59:50] Do gory the Nature tu Steve. Sunset to see the du in morning
[59:58] in the in the grass to see to see like the wind like blond the
[1:00:03] trees. Ilona min.
[1:00:04] And the Silent ze stinger this is my my joy, simple Things and
[1:00:10] john picture some. Albania and the Nature, there is
[1:00:13] really crazy and Beautiful all my.
[1:00:15] That is the topic buda al benight is sacie Beautiful
[1:00:19] country and. I know we is a all benince are
[1:00:23] very mis on the stoo the round the World, but the people there
[1:00:28] a so welcome and anther Souls Souls to nights and there'a
[1:00:31] people people from your country, the good po recations i sobie
[1:00:35] different the Beautiful. Oldsin eligres TI am you have
[1:00:40] Mount and we FOI got są są some Things i wish that you.
[1:00:46] One day gothar in joyed or if i gother i tell you and we can me
[1:00:49] those when all benin. Ok i will for sure, but i you no
[1:00:54] i remember one picture or video from your story with the big
[1:00:58] three was like a bit like this and with front wind this was
[1:01:02] like amazing and peace of art. Lesław Justin, the moment.
[1:01:09] I it is very powerful and i that soldriven to the moment.
[1:01:17] Because it's goes i can't be Report dust again that that it
[1:01:21] on second nancy, ale second is completed new thing.
[1:01:27] I have the sejm bad just in this year like last year i started do
[1:01:30] it like Engine every moment. It's important because then you
[1:01:36] have the right people with you are the right Energy is because
[1:01:40] we every everything is Energy the way how we that people how
[1:01:44] we hard how we talk how i stihing is Energy take the or it
[1:01:50] is it make you have i have to. Have osom Energy cos i always
[1:01:56] meet cool people like you for example.
[1:01:59] You are also i love when we talk because it's day is an
[1:02:05] understanding and is all this very important.
[1:02:08] Ja będę. Ci tej the English barier?
[1:02:11] It's not the English we can understand and Philips chiller
[1:02:14] even without words i no people like this like i'm i gest i can
[1:02:18] also be good friends, also by sharing the silence i ona mi.
[1:02:24] Thing something in all Benjamin. Albo niem.
[1:02:34] Je Sztum, emir i Spirit szum to bogu.
[1:02:39] Aj aj aj want it's tr if i will understand but it's not se
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[1:02:51] absirat bookera honorem. Casill.
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[1:03:27] Is this is this came from arina pers because she nos more than i
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[1:03:39] think this is life. Nie because normally in the
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[1:03:49] Limited of time and web to be nice ford light costumes SZN
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[1:03:58] city. With marines collaboration with
[1:04:03] is like through. Long reason to forums.
[1:04:08] Everything starts in the long is performance when everything is
[1:04:12] exosition. And then the.
[1:04:13] Magic happens the ok. In this way seat it was the
[1:04:18] first time is collaboration between danters and choreografię
[1:04:23] teraz jest danym her carier and. Because dangers we get tiret no
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[1:05:27] Co jest auto something you? Parlament.
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[1:05:41] from Marina, what the says and how we can talk and how can find
[1:05:44] ways because i love to collaboratory wither more.
[1:05:50] But you think you will do something more with her after
[1:05:54] balkan or you will make something.
[1:05:57] On jest jest i min. We are it's were bo freelanders
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[1:06:13] No jest sił dziennik formie Disney it's something coming
[1:06:19] from the universe i have question.
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[1:06:53] No something organ do something nights in art soul.
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[1:07:02] Feel good with this like everybody aske about Marina.
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[1:07:12] the World of Marine what i do is completed different, but when we
[1:07:15] are together and assing for the command collaboration web dam
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[1:07:25] Things. No the problem from me ok i.
[1:07:29] Can't wait make epizod about you i started writing i told you
[1:07:33] ready. About about.
[1:07:35] This to my curious and the told me like no i will tell you have
[1:07:41] a lot of Polish funds here. It's really cool.
[1:07:47] You thank you, that's from you America, the will stan look
[1:07:54] forward i love being Poland differencities you say you.
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[1:08:05] Warszawa, mhm. I do were but i'm waiting for
[1:08:12] you. Way, co znała ten remember the
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[1:08:21] Rossmann jest. Roslave złe i like there.
[1:08:28] Lata w historię arts well Poland, the lot of save i like
[1:08:33] than Wrocław in the Street there sam sam.
[1:08:38] Wstecz jest taki i. Don't know i'm how you call this
[1:08:43] in English. Wstecznymi, ale no stać jest
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[1:08:54] World not there's the World like humans.
[1:08:58] Bad in. My city we have the sejm bad
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[1:09:11] sady dance Cracovia. Laki.
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[1:09:26] Like amazing. Story.
[1:09:31] Je no. Bardzo.
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[1:09:41] I leven years ago. And i feel like it's like this
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[1:09:50] Korea. No.
[1:09:53] Almost nothing about about the place and your story about like
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[1:10:04] like the people from coreat go to China and save the life.
[1:10:11] For you i was like all my gov and i was cringe like three
[1:10:15] Times when i was were thing your people.
[1:10:17] Beautiful because ave the lot bardz i'm stand you, but when i
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[1:10:54] The lots lot of pin it's no way ball we have a lot of pain.
[1:11:01] I don't know why is place is attraction somax pain.
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[1:11:35] generari till december total ben.
[1:11:39] Polish for sure there's. Of Polish people, i'm in Things
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[1:12:01] of Central European gaj to stay because is not my calter and i
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[1:12:11] deal with is weather with the culture is the Beautiful
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[1:12:20] All like. More happy when the sun is you
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[1:12:27] Central Europe is always gray and the effects, the ecology of
[1:12:32] course. Ender no the mode no staw bardzo
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[1:12:42] lot a broad i work load in nowhere, magister now Barcelona
[1:12:49] bodaj work lots also in in i been grise daty słucham time to
[1:12:56] Connect with all being a bit more to bring.
[1:13:00] Sam sam element of my of my work experiences why not changes a
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[1:13:09] Not how big thing są one train to bring people sometimes i beto
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[1:13:20] the sorry and people from the dances from a broad są i won't
[1:13:25] change Things butli no you can't do this change.
[1:13:28] Leon and units people are support in my case.
[1:13:31] Why you? Always make your are to like in
[1:13:33] all benia or in al beniam language no co najstar do
[1:13:38] Research about you everything was like in albaniam.
[1:13:44] Lajk. I now is dance without words,
[1:13:47] bad when you have like interviews are always with in
[1:13:51] all beniamin TV or something like this the titles always in
[1:13:56] al Benjamin. Ja.
[1:13:58] Because because benin Festival and then it's hard for them to
[1:14:03] to translate in English from a television the Things wpadł na
[1:14:09] this sun intervision been before all this here i had af you.
[1:14:13] Because is all Beyond the can out do the mind English i'm in
[1:14:16] now they should. For twenty some years i know
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[1:14:25] depends America bad no generalnie because i love
[1:14:28] televisions the no or Counter like very fun of TVN.
[1:14:34] A skin kawał dysku? Zajcudent understand your now.
[1:14:41] Macie i can will? Ask you when i will make epizod
[1:14:47] ok. On zoom i will does tekst you e
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[1:15:15] this i will i will see if i need you for this like if i need more
[1:15:20] information or may be i will just do the story or may be we
[1:15:24] wild. End of the story like right now
[1:15:29] you now i am not sure but my podcast intersting you have to
[1:15:34] speak Polish you speak like to jest you can't speak Polish too.
[1:15:38] Dziękuję więc. No to nable.
[1:15:42] Outlook open to i'm i love every country not i love the people.
[1:15:49] I love i love you i love to learn i'm angry for no legend.
[1:15:55] We have to fajne. We have to fine ways and in joy
[1:16:03] life. I found the way amen joint life
[1:16:08] a lot of art and trips. This and how lock you we are to
[1:16:14] do what we love in this World now.
[1:16:18] Never take nothing for Grand the never.
[1:16:23] Wyłączy something more. I hope that the Polish people
[1:16:29] will like our stories in when the will Heart and i wish for
[1:16:33] the lot of luck, lot of love, the can be s together is the can
[1:16:39] to be kind with Other to the World to everything.
[1:16:44] Because pod meathers now just this.
[1:16:48] Your right? The World so fakt ap to be onest
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[1:16:57] it's the World in this moment is sunset.
[1:17:02] N we all toursells that to find light within dark Times.
[1:17:09] Bolo was bo jak to fine way n alpital.
[1:17:13] And be najs to i chatber. Night children let's not take
[1:17:20] nothing for Grand the because is life it's.
[1:17:24] I teraz everything and we've to fine way to to to czas and dream
[1:17:29] and do Things. Your right thank you really like
[1:17:36] toku with you. Live is the America, the you.
[1:17:41] Have to. Day i'm with my family you House
[1:17:45] of the waiting outside the were cooking for me because i need to
[1:17:49] masz tam because being a way all time.
[1:17:54] I no jest people of sund easily you can disconnect with them.
[1:18:00] A w lew my country forbienie jest więc tu thousand for no n
[1:18:05] sometimes when i go back i need to be time to Connect even with
[1:18:09] my parents there sun and there the only people the World love
[1:18:14] you and the love you'm conditional.
[1:18:17] So proud of you. Love time it my parent were ball
[1:18:23] in arts, the were boot my fall o was like a folk denting, poly
[1:18:27] Phoenix down mother to bed less my fall was mor in festiwal ten
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[1:18:44] Powerfon. Ja win need this kind of kind of
[1:18:48] fun conditional love now condition.
[1:18:52] Connection and win need because like this we can transform and
[1:18:58] we can change Things all it your love we can change Things is the
[1:19:02] only way. And art.
[1:19:07] Lowe utworzone because were talkinglow not in the toppic of
[1:19:12] art was free commerciation but without are they's no life.
[1:19:18] Daje znon life udało i we need more arts everybody has
[1:19:22] everybody has with is home way. Ujaw to be together m create
[1:19:29] more art it's like is can ever Revol it's time for Revolution
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[1:19:39] To no never sur render to be there with all the figure this
[1:19:42] because that one it it change are transfers ok.
[1:19:47] Bad i know a lot of people. Who wood tell you now like we
[1:19:52] have another problems, beger problems like words like pull
[1:19:56] people and why you focus on art it's not the most important
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[1:20:07] I no bad this this this topics are red now the are like in
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[1:20:33] and Night it's had to year that it's had imie of course it salt
[1:20:38] it sat to steel people people hill no that people hill chader,
[1:20:44] because even the animals when the kill the kill when the
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[1:20:51] can been harding with Other animals i noming.
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[1:20:59] Streaming. Spis ale no no.
[1:21:03] But differently. The full the article cure ive
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[1:21:17] taxi sols and for. Mes like i can't brief wit out,
[1:21:22] art i can't imagine love without art.
[1:21:26] Is this this the Street i was filmik that day and that bo tam
[1:21:32] sing is the artist is it is every way mhm.
[1:21:37] A new can you can feel? Ten, ale może chciałeś lot of
[1:21:42] stories? Leon say words i don't this free
[1:21:46] because i see the people can oso REACT sam like and the can oso
[1:21:53] connected to them South. Listing always full.
[1:21:57] Of mean, holly and subness i think when you at some.
[1:22:03] Not always all. Most almost always always the.
[1:22:08] Melancle is all że not. Bad.
[1:22:14] Not bad. Kiwi, że lata w tej 100.
[1:22:20] Tu Seattle and thing and the. Stars for no i pomimo
[1:22:29] melanclease stories for transformation islam.
[1:22:33] You can lee must Things you can be more i like you can be
[1:22:37] bourne'a, but my sejm time you can have Stream.
[1:22:42] I understand and when i see you stories all when we talk like
[1:22:46] private i think like you have a lot of levels, insight of you so
[1:22:51] it really interesting. Samochód, bo ona jest hit ping
[1:22:55] the real no event from pink even from pictures or like a movie
[1:23:00] sequent that fix to me in no n sometimes are people that the
[1:23:05] won't hear this Things. Ten o wow o k my there is
[1:23:09] someone thinking like your feeling like me.
[1:23:14] Ten may that person can przerwy to someone'a ten that show i can
[1:23:18] the transformation begins. Well, we are thegner.
[1:23:23] Think is time to think and be morin collective no.
[1:23:33] To jest not time for lorent jest nie more i think ok.
[1:23:37] Topic blender you have to go to your family and fun.
[1:23:43] Ky for conversation, acts and kiss for your family.
[1:23:50] Mam nadzieję. Że spodobał wam się Wywiad z
[1:23:56] mariną i z lenardem, że dowiedzieliście się czegoś
[1:23:58] nowego? Ja dziękuję oczywiście i marinie
[1:24:00] i lenartowi, no bo. Było to stresujące, ale bardzo
[1:24:05] przyjemne i ja myślałam, że moja przygoda z epic naprawdę się
[1:24:09] skończy na momencie, w którym ja wyszłam z tego performansu,
[1:24:13] kiedy byłam w Manchesterze, możecie zobaczyć to na vlogu.
[1:24:17] Tam jest jeden wielki Chaos, fill otulony moimi emocjami, bo
[1:24:22] byłam tak podekscytowana, a wyszło jak wyszło.
[1:24:24] No życie jest nieprzewidywalne. Bardzo się cieszę, że fill, no
[1:24:28] że to wszystko się tak potoczyło.
[1:24:30] Ja na pewno wybiorę się Jeszcze raz na balkan erotic epik
[1:24:33] ponieważ. Ee no nie ma co ukrywać, cieszę
[1:24:36] się, że byłam w Manchesterze, bo to był taki og dżi nie
[1:24:39] performens, ponieważ ta cała przestrzeń Aviva studio
[1:24:43] zainspirowała marinę do zrobienia bakan erotic epic
[1:24:46] ptaki, sposób fill w jaki zrobiła, a teraz w wielu
[1:24:50] miastach jednak będzie to w wersji teatralnej, czyli
[1:24:52] siedzicie, nie możecie chodzić, nie zapadacie się w tę miękką
[1:24:56] podłogę zrobioną z czarnej trawy, to myślę, że.
[1:25:00] Dużo odbierze tej fill. Magii.
[1:25:03] Tego performansu, ale przekonamy się tak, jak blenard powiedział,
[1:25:06] porozmawiamy sobie. Ich.
[1:25:09] Skończeniu. Barcelony, czyli tak około chyba
[1:25:12] lutego. Mam nadzieję, że też do.
[1:25:14] Mnie napiszecie jeżeli wybieracie się do Barcelony albo
[1:25:16] do innych miast jak wygląda ten performens no bo Jestem pewna,
[1:25:20] że w każdym mieście będzie to trochę inne fill doświadczenie,
[1:25:24] a jeżeli się nie wybieracie, albo chcecie być przygotowani,
[1:25:27] no to zrobiłam cały odcinek o balkcan erotic epic z moimi
[1:25:30] przemyśleniami, no ale tam są spoilery, po prostu opowiadam
[1:25:33] wam jak każdy z tych 13 performansów fill wygląda tak,
[1:25:38] że. To już wasza decyzja, czy
[1:25:40] posłuchacie sobie przed po czy kiedykolwiek w ogóle nie
[1:25:43] przedłużam, bo to był długi Wywiad, ale naprawdę mam
[1:25:47] nadzieję, że ll wam się podobał i że miło spędziliście z nami
[1:25:52] czas tak, że słyszymy się już niebawem w kolejnym niewinnym
[1:25:57] odcinku, który będzie albo o marku szagalu, albo o blenardzie
[1:26:00] asizay, zobaczymy także. Do usłyszenia w kolejny
[1:26:04] czwartek, pa.

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