# Erin Holland Tell All

An episode of [Vain-ish](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1824105551), 9 Jun 2026, 1 h 01 min.

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Television presenter, singer, former Miss World Australia, and one of Australia's most recognisable media personalities, Erin Holland opens up about her career, approach to beauty, and the highs, heartbreaks, and resilience that shaped her five-year fertility journey, including 20 rounds of IVF. Plus, Erin shares her most Vain-ish moment, involving a front tooth, a long-haul flight, and a late-night emergency dentist. This episode includes discussion of miscarriage and pregnancy loss. If this brings up difficult feelings for you, support is available. In Australia, you can contact Pink Elephants on 1300 726 306 or Red Nose Grief and Loss on 1300 308 307. If you need immediate support, Lifeline is available 24 hours a day on 13 11 14. You don't have to go through this alone. Find us on Instagram: @vainishpodcast, and thanks to our guest Erin Holland Hosts: @becjudd and @jessierobertsx Producer: Liza Altarejos Audio Imager: Chris Marsh Video Producer: Justin Hill Find more great podcasts at www.listnr.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

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[0:49] Hey guys, it's Bec Judd.
[0:51] And Jess Roberts.
[0:52] And welcome to Vanish.
[0:53] Oh, it's been a stressful few days.
[0:55] Oh, it has.
[0:57] And you know what?
[0:57] It's not the type of stress.
[0:59] It's like family stress and all that stuff.
[1:01] Work stress.
[1:02] Not that.
[1:02] Not that.
[1:03] It's purchasing ticket stress.
[1:05] Purchasing ticket stress.
[1:07] Holy crap.
[1:08] I have three phones open to get tickets to Dom Dollar, which is like a fucking rave.
[1:15] I know.
[1:15] And I'm 43 and I've got...
[1:19] 12 tickets so far and I'm going to get more.
[1:22] Do you know what the funny thing is when I was watching all this unfold?
[1:26] And we had this group chat, you know, on about Dom Dollar.
[1:28] I was laughing because it said, like, what was it, 27,000 people in front of you?
[1:33] Just like, then you panic by because once you're in the room and you've got it.
[1:36] You just get them all.
[1:36] Just get them all.
[1:37] So unless you've been living under a rock, Dom Dollar is playing a stadium show at Marvel Stadium in Melbourne.
[1:46] He's turning the Marvel Stadium into a super club.
[1:49] And I think they're going to put the lid on.
[1:50] which will be cool.
[1:51] And then we're going to blow it off.
[1:52] Oh my gosh.
[1:53] And it is on the Thursday night before the AFL grand final.
[1:58] So Dom and his team have been teasing it and we knew the tickets were going to get launched.
[2:04] And we had all of our friends on our Dom Dollar chat because you've got to understand that our group of girlfriends, like we travel all around Australia and all around the world to see Dom Dollar.
[2:14] It's so bad.
[2:14] Honestly.
[2:14] How many times have we seen him?
[2:15] We're all like,
[2:16] Mid-30s, 40s.
[2:17] I don't know.
[2:18] I've probably seen him, I don't know.
[2:19] 20 times?
[2:20] No, maybe not that many.
[2:22] But I've seen him around the world.
[2:23] I've seen him in like Adelaide, Sydney, Melbourne so many times overseas.
[2:28] Anyway, so we're all there.
[2:30] And we're all like married mums.
[2:33] Chasing a 32-year-old man at 33.
[2:37] And we're all there and we're all logged on and I jump on.
[2:40] And it is so bloody stressful.
[2:42] It is.
[2:42] And the thing is...
[2:44] I jumped on and I was 18,000 in queue.
[2:47] Your sister was 27.
[2:49] And my sister was 27,000.
[2:50] There were people who were 30,000.
[2:51] We all jumped on at the same time.
[2:53] And then my girlfriend Charlotte jumped on.
[2:55] She was at my house with me.
[2:56] She jumped on.
[2:57] She was 1,800.
[2:58] Right?
[2:58] So she got in, got tickets, and I ended up getting in...
[3:01] had to get VIP, general soldier.
[3:03] And it's just the most stressful thing.
[3:04] And it took an hour out of my day.
[3:06] My heart rate was up and it is a lot.
[3:08] But what is kind of annoying about this is that we have secretly known about this show happening for a very, very, very long time.
[3:15] And we weren't allowed to say anything.
[3:16] And we weren't allowed to say anything because we are good secret keepers, right?
[3:19] Yeah.
[3:20] And bloody idiot over here sitting next to me forgot and went and booked a holiday in Vietnam the week that Dom Dollar is playing in Melbourne.
[3:30] You bloody idiot.
[3:31] I know, I know.
[3:33] I'm such an idiot.
[3:33] I've known about it for so long.
[3:34] Do you know what?
[3:35] It's my fault.
[3:36] Like, you don't know when the AFL Grand Final is.
[3:38] No idea.
[3:38] And you don't put things in your calendar.
[3:40] So I really should have micromanaged you on this.
[3:42] It's actually my fault.
[3:43] It is.
[3:43] I should have blocked it.
[3:44] And it also means you are missing Kylie Minogue, who is playing at the AFL Grand Final on Saturday, who is Jess's number one, like, idol.
[3:54] So she's got Kylie and then Dom Dollars here this week in Melbourne, in her hometown, both playing...
[3:59] She ain't going to be here.
[4:00] I'm not going to be here.
[4:01] What a dickhead.
[4:01] I know.
[4:02] And the worst thing about it, when I said to Tiff, I'm like, who is my favorite DJ in the world?
[4:05] And he goes, Dom Dahl.
[4:05] I'm like, who's my favorite pop star?
[4:08] He goes, Climb.
[4:08] And I'm like, they're playing in this week and we're going away.
[4:11] And I'm like, can I change the dates?
[4:14] Of the holidays?
[4:14] Of the holidays.
[4:15] He looked at me and goes...
[4:17] if you choose them over me, I'm going to be really, really mad.
[4:20] And then I was like, okay, okay.
[4:22] And so then I got it out of my mindset and I was really upset.
[4:25] I gave him the silent treatment all day.
[4:26] And then he comes back later and he's like, I was just kidding.
[4:29] You can totally go.
[4:30] I would never stop you from doing it.
[4:31] Really?
[4:31] But in my head, I've already gone, I'm not going.
[4:34] You've already dealt with it.
[4:35] So I've already dealt with the stress, the trauma, the hatred of, like I was actually thinking, I was like, I have, he's making me choose between Kylie, Dom and him.
[4:43] Yeah.
[4:43] I was like, this is a really.
[4:44] Because Kylie and Dom do a win over your husband.
[4:46] I know, literally.
[4:47] I think I've been over everyone's husband.
[4:48] I think Kylie and Dom went over my husband and family too.
[4:51] It's like, you know, you guys can go on an international.
[4:53] I'm staying in Melbourne.
[4:53] Yeah, I know.
[4:54] And I had to go through that whole psyche.
[4:57] Anyway.
[4:58] You've dealt with it.
[4:58] I've dealt with it and I've already mourned it.
[5:00] And yes, I'm going to be away.
[5:01] Because you've already booked your hotel, your flights and everything.
[5:04] And for an ADHD person to go back in and have to reschedule them.
[5:07] No, I didn't do any of that.
[5:08] I made G do that.
[5:11] Is G going to Vietnam?
[5:13] No, it's not Vietnam.
[5:14] It's Korea and Japan.
[5:17] I'm going to Vietnam in a few weeks.
[5:19] Oh my God, I can't keep up.
[5:20] Oh no, I'm going everywhere.
[5:22] So because you're not coming with me to Dom Dollar, guess who is?
[5:26] G is.
[5:27] No?
[5:28] Juddy is.
[5:29] Juddy is.
[5:29] Juddy is.
[5:29] I'm popping Juddy's Dom Dollar Cherry.
[5:32] Oh, my God.
[5:32] I know.
[5:33] He's never seen Dom Dollar.
[5:35] Oh.
[5:35] Yeah.
[5:35] So I'm taking my husband.
[5:36] So all the girls are actually, we're like, oh, let's bring the husbands to this one.
[5:40] So all the hubbies are coming.
[5:41] Oh, that's kind of cute.
[5:41] Yeah.
[5:42] You know what?
[5:42] He didn't come to Fred again, did he?
[5:44] No.
[5:45] And then now he likes Fred again.
[5:46] He loves Fred again.
[5:47] He's like, I love this.
[5:47] And I'm like, mate, you're like two years late to the party.
[5:50] Yeah, yeah.
[5:50] I feel like he's learned his lessons.
[5:51] He does love Dom though.
[5:53] He just hasn't.
[5:54] I don't know.
[5:54] Like raves and stuff are his thing.
[5:56] It's not his thing.
[5:57] He's not.
[5:58] Yeah.
[5:58] Like whenever we go to Coachella, he's a social media band.
[6:01] I'm not allowed to post any photos of Chris.
[6:03] I know.
[6:05] You all think that we're divorced?
[6:06] No.
[6:07] My husband's, they're taking the fucking photo.
[6:08] I'm just not allowed to post him.
[6:09] Yeah.
[6:10] It's literally every time we come back, there's an article that Beck and Chris has split up.
[6:15] We're like, no, he was there.
[6:16] When we're in Ibiza.
[6:17] Yes, that's right.
[6:18] And Chris is like, I was never here on this holiday.
[6:22] He was up at 20 in the morning.
[6:23] We're partying at 20.
[6:24] He's on the laptop like working.
[6:25] He's like buying, selling shares, dealing with his investors, you know, back at the villa.
[6:31] Like he's literally working.
[6:33] We're at Amnesia.
[6:34] Bye, babe.
[6:35] Bye.
[6:35] Have fun working.
[6:36] No, anyway, I know the stress because I've just done it for BTS.
[6:40] Oh, my.
[6:40] So you are obsessed with BTS.
[6:42] I'm obsessed.
[6:42] You're like K-pop queen over here.
[6:45] Their new album, by the way, like I don't know any of their old songs.
[6:49] But this album dropped and I'm like, holy shit.
[6:51] It is so good.
[6:52] It's like trying to catch up being an army over – like they've been around for, I don't know, 20 years, 15 years, whatever.
[6:59] I've been like deep diving.
[7:01] I've got 14 years to catch up on who these people are.
[7:04] They're so cool.
[7:06] Anyway, I bought tickets before they've gone on sale.
[7:08] Yeah, so how did you find this?
[7:09] Because on Instagram the other day, like Jess had been banging on about trying to get these BTS tickets and how hard it is.
[7:14] For about 8, 12 months.
[7:15] For ages.
[7:15] She's having a full stress.
[7:17] Like last week, she's like, I'm so stressed out.
[7:19] I'm like, what?
[7:20] She was about BTS tickets going on sale next week.
[7:22] I'm like, calm your farm.
[7:24] I've reached out to every single person that I could imagine.
[7:27] I've offered every part of my body up.
[7:28] I've got...
[7:29] You can get me BTS tickets.
[7:31] I'll do whatever.
[7:31] Yeah.
[7:32] And then you got them for yourself.
[7:33] I got them for myself.
[7:34] Because some loophole happened on the weekend with the ticketing.
[7:36] Tell me about it.
[7:37] Yeah.
[7:37] So, Marble Stadium, because they're playing there.
[7:39] I thought if it was the MCG, if it was Rod Laver.
[7:41] Oh, we got the jagged box.
[7:42] We got boxes.
[7:42] We got the box.
[7:43] We're fine.
[7:44] We're fine.
[7:44] But of course, they had to play at Marble Stadium.
[7:45] I'm like, who the fuck owns Marble Stadium?
[7:47] We got no boxes there.
[7:48] No boxes there.
[7:49] And then, anyway, so we ended up...
[7:52] Marble Stadium released these packages, but for the Medallion.
[7:57] Medallion Club, yeah.
[7:58] Yeah, so they released that, but they didn't really quite announce it.
[8:01] And then someone obviously found it, and then they put it on their Instagram.
[8:06] After they'd bought their allocation of tickets.
[8:08] Yeah, $1,000 per ticket.
[8:09] But for Medallion Club, that's pretty good.
[8:11] Medallion Club's more like premium seating.
[8:13] Yeah, so by the way, your ticket's $1,000.
[8:15] Yeah.
[8:17] I'll take it off the tally that you owe me.
[8:19] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[8:20] There's a spreadsheet of that.
[8:21] So then they'd gone on sale again.
[8:24] To the general admit.
[8:26] General, yeah.
[8:27] Well, no, it's army sale.
[8:28] I had to sign up to be an army on their Weverse.
[8:32] Like such a... You're like your proper army.
[8:34] Like your proper BTS army chick.
[8:36] Yeah, yeah.
[8:36] Don't know about... How much did you have to pay to be in the army?
[8:39] I don't know.
[8:39] Like... Like... Yeah.
[8:42] Hundreds?
[8:43] I think, yeah, about a hundred.
[8:45] Wow.
[8:45] A hundred US.
[8:45] And what do you get for that just early access?
[8:47] Early access, but like… Well, Dom Dollar lets you do it for free.
[8:52] I know, but then the army access is like, you still don't have a chance because there's 400 billion people that are army.
[8:58] Yeah, yes.
[8:59] These guys are making… How many followers do they have on Instagram?
[9:01] Oh, like 82 million.
[9:02] Oh, wow.
[9:03] I know.
[9:03] Anyway.
[9:04] And you know, everyone knows about them now though because their latest album, like this, Diplo's on it so heavily.
[9:09] There's a lot of- Cool artists.
[9:11] A lot of cool artists.
[9:13] Yeah.
[9:14] It's a lot more mainstream.
[9:15] It is.
[9:16] Yeah.
[9:16] Anyway, so I've like- Secured the tickets.
[9:19] Did you get the tickets?
[9:20] I got the tickets, but I've like, now there's Bangkok tickets that I've got to get.
[9:26] I'm going on a tour, guys.
[9:26] You're going on the BTS world tour.
[9:28] Yeah, I'm in proper army.
[9:29] Yeah.
[9:31] Not really, guys.
[9:31] Not really.
[9:32] I'm not army.
[9:33] I'm not army.
[9:34] I am army.
[9:35] I'm totally army.
[9:36] Yeah.
[9:44] Today's conversation includes discussion of miscarriage and if this brings up difficult feelings for you, support is available.
[9:51] For anyone affected by miscarriage or pregnancy loss in Australia, you can contact Pink Elephants on 1300 726 306 or Red Nose Grief and Loss on 1300 308 307.
[10:06] If you need to talk to someone right away, Lifeline is available 24 hours a day on 13 11 14.
[10:13] You don't have to go through this alone.
[10:18] Okay, Bec, so we've got a wonderful guest in.
[10:21] We've known her for a long time and we've been watching her journey to becoming a mother.
[10:26] Oh, yeah.
[10:27] And this chick, not only is she stunning, she's such a good vibe, so positive, always has a smile on her face.
[10:33] But you know what?
[10:33] She does it all.
[10:34] Yeah, she's a weapon.
[10:35] Have you heard her sing?
[10:36] Yes.
[10:36] She does the carols singing and she's always in a beautiful jeton gown.
[10:39] When I watch it, I just watch it for her.
[10:41] She is amazing.
[10:43] She's actually a trained opera singer.
[10:45] Yes.
[10:45] She's so good.
[10:46] I believe it.
[10:47] She's absolutely stunning.
[10:48] We are talking about Erin Holland.
[10:50] Yeah.
[10:50] Of course, television presenter.
[10:52] She's a singer, model, former Miss World Australia 2013.
[10:56] That's when I first heard about her was when she went off to compete for Australia.
[11:01] She's an entrepreneur.
[11:03] She's also a beauty and fashion personality and she's become one of, not just in Australia, but one of the best sports broadcasters in the world.
[11:13] I know.
[11:14] She covers any international cricket.
[11:16] She has other sports as well, but she is very well known for her cricket coverage in cricketing nations.
[11:21] She's huge overseas.
[11:23] She's married to cricket icon, Ben Cutting.
[11:26] And she is, yeah, like we said, a classically trained vocalist.
[11:31] I mean, Erin.
[11:33] Welcome to the show, Erin Holland.
[11:35] Thank you so much.
[11:37] So happy to have you here.
[11:38] This just feels like a fun chat, to be honest.
[11:40] It is.
[11:41] It is.
[11:41] It's not a podcast.
[11:42] It's like a brunch.
[11:42] It really is.
[11:43] It's like the ladies at lunch.
[11:44] Yeah, but we didn't say, oh, we didn't save the pregnant lady any cake.
[11:48] We ate it all.
[11:48] We ate it all.
[11:49] And they can't have a margarita.
[11:51] This has gone down the toilet already, guys.
[11:54] I'm out.
[11:54] I'm out.
[11:55] Oh, my God.
[11:56] First and foremost, congratulations.
[11:58] Oh, my God.
[11:59] He's so happy for you.
[12:00] Yeah.
[12:01] Like, when I found out, and I already said this to you because I saw you at the Cobram Estate a few weeks ago, and I said to you, it's like time.
[12:10] this is Australia's baby.
[12:11] Like Australia's rooting for this baby so bad.
[12:14] And everyone, when we saw you were on the guest list, everyone, because we were flying in from Melbourne, you were flying in from Sydney, and someone's like, oh, who's coming today?
[12:23] And I said, oh, I've got the guest list.
[12:24] And I read it out.
[12:25] When I said your name, no shit, the entire plane, there was like 20 women on it.
[12:30] Everyone screamed.
[12:31] You made me cry.
[12:32] It was like, Erin's, Erin Holland.
[12:33] Everyone went, ah.
[12:35] Everyone's coming.
[12:36] So I think the Stella cover only came out like two days earlier.
[12:38] It was fresh.
[12:39] It was like the first time I'd seen people in the wild.
[12:42] No one had seen you since the announcement.
[12:44] So, and it was so soon.
[12:45] It was literally two days after your Stella cover announcement.
[12:49] And then Jess has seen you today.
[12:50] Yeah, I did.
[12:51] I was like, oh my God, I'm so excited.
[12:52] I think because you've taken us
[12:54] through the journey of your pregnancy and, you know, getting pregnant and stuff.
[12:58] And it's not been easy.
[13:00] So when I heard the news or when I saw the news, I literally had a lump in my throat.
[13:04] I was like, oh, because, you know, we're talking about it probably about two years ago.
[13:07] You and I were talking about like, you know, I was saying how I had kids and, you know,
[13:11] you know, you're going through this journey and I was just so seeing that was just so amazing.
[13:16] So we're so happy for you.
[13:17] Yeah, I think everyone had a happy tear for you.
[13:19] Literally, literally.
[13:22] So how are you feeling?
[13:24] Yeah, what are you up to?
[13:25] What are you up to?
[13:26] Grow your child.
[13:26] Grow your human.
[13:27] Yeah.
[13:28] I have to say, though, after the absolute shite show of five years of IVF, 20 rounds, I mean, I would have had thousands of needles, thousands of self-administered needles.
[13:40] I don't even want to look at an internal ultrasound ever again in my life.
[13:46] After all of that, all of the drugs, all of the hormones, all of the money, all of the financial, physical, mental toll.
[13:53] this has been the easiest pregnancy.
[13:55] And I'll clip that up because I'll probably in third trimester, something will happen and I'll be so unwell and I'll regret ever saying it out loud.
[14:02] But I've been... No, you'll be fine.
[14:05] We're knocking on every piece of wood.
[14:08] The universe has got you, babe.
[14:09] I've been so well.
[14:11] That's so good.
[14:12] Not sick at all.
[14:13] I found out because of IVF, obviously, you find out so incredibly quickly that something has worked.
[14:18] And I've been...
[14:18] You know, the excitement really only has just started kicking in because I've heard four times before that you're pregnant and it's never worked out and I've miscarried.
[14:26] So I've been quite guarded with my feelings up to that point.
[14:28] But from December 23rd when I found out, I've been pregnant all year.
[14:34] I've done 55 flights so far.
[14:36] I've done four countries.
[14:37] Like, you know, I've been going full steam ahead, air on as normal.
[14:41] And I can only do that because I have been so well.
[14:43] I've not been sick.
[14:44] It's like my body's...
[14:46] been on drugs for so long, IBF drugs, it doesn't know what normal is, I think maybe.
[14:52] And so I'm not upsetting any normal hormonal pattern.
[14:54] That's, I mean, don't take my word for that.
[14:56] I have no idea what the medical reason is.
[14:58] But I think there's got to be something in that, that I wasn't upsetting any sort of regular female hormone pattern.
[15:04] Do you know what's really funny you saying that?
[15:06] Like you kind of didn't stop your daily life, like your daily grind.
[15:09] Beyonce did the same thing.
[15:10] She was in an interview.
[15:12] I'm wearing Beyonce.
[15:12] Yeah, Beyonce.
[15:13] I was just looking at your hair.
[15:14] Yeah, Beyonce.
[15:14] I was just looking at your hair.
[15:15] I was just looking at your hair.
[15:16] Thank you.
[15:16] We're going to talk about that hair, by the way.
[15:19] That's too good.
[15:20] No, but Beyonce, she was open about her miscarriage.
[15:24] And she said when she found out she was pregnant, she kind of stopped everything and then, you know, wanted to be pregnant and, you know, enjoy it.
[15:31] And then she miscarried and then she got pregnant again and she said, her doctor said, don't stop what you're doing.
[15:38] Your body is so used to that regular like thing.
[15:42] And don't put your body into shock because she's like, I'm about to go on tour, like da-da-da, I'm about to sing for the Billboard Awards.
[15:47] And he's like, no, just keep going because the minute you stop.
[15:50] Was she pregnant with twins as well?
[15:51] No, this one was just pregnant with Blue.
[15:52] So she had a miscarriage before and then Blue came along and she said, I was in this thing like I wanted to protect and stop
[15:59] But then the obstetrician's like, keep doing you, keep doing you.
[16:03] And she did.
[16:04] Bubba likes your voice.
[16:05] I'm getting kicks as I'm sitting here.
[16:08] I agree.
[16:08] It's bad.
[16:09] I think, and, you know, my specialists have said this to me, and I've seen a number across my five-year journey, but what's normal for you?
[16:17] kind of continue doing that.
[16:18] And that goes down to your exercise, down to your work, down to obviously, you know, maintain as less stressful an environment as possible.
[16:26] But, you know, for me, traveling is not stressful.
[16:29] I get on a plane twice a week anyway, irrespective of work, because my husband's based in Brisbane and I'm based in Sydney.
[16:34] So things that cause stress for others don't necessarily cause stress for me.
[16:38] I like to train.
[16:39] I train pretty much every day of the week.
[16:42] I'm kind of at about 70% at the moment, though, rather than like, you know, full ball.
[16:45] But like that is what's normal for me.
[16:47] Running marathons is not.
[16:48] I'm not starting running anytime soon.
[16:50] But, you know, there's definitely something in that, I think.
[16:52] And for me, the mental trauma of the last five years, I needed to feel as, quote unquote, normal as possible, I think, just to get through the milestones because I've been expecting, like looking over my shoulder at every turn that something is going to go wrong.
[17:05] Yeah.
[17:05] Every time we go to the bathroom, you know, you wipe and you're just so afraid that it's going to go wrong again.
[17:10] Yeah.
[17:10] So it's been the best thing for me to just keep at it.
[17:14] Keep life as normal as I possibly can.
[17:17] And it's been easier.
[17:18] This has been easier than IVF for me because I don't have the mental load, the physical load of the hormones, the injections.
[17:24] What am I taking at this time?
[17:25] What do I need to do?
[17:26] It's a scan every day.
[17:28] however many weeks.
[17:29] It's not the daily three or four injections a day and this supplement at this time.
[17:34] This has actually been a dream so far.
[17:36] You deserve it.
[17:37] You so deserve that.
[17:39] You deserve that.
[17:40] You'll go off and have not 10 kids now.
[17:42] Yeah.
[17:44] We're 37 now, babes.
[17:45] It's been a while.
[17:46] You said you've travelled to four countries.
[17:51] Since you've been pregnant.
[17:52] And I grew the lining in a fifth.
[17:54] I grew the lining when I was in Abu Dhabi at the end of last year working.
[17:57] Oh, wow.
[17:57] That's crazy.
[17:58] You know, she is worldwide, baby.
[18:01] Do you know the gender?
[18:03] Not yet.
[18:03] Not yet.
[18:04] In my head, it's always been a girl just because Ben and I have always spoke about it.
[18:08] And a lot of cricketers have girls.
[18:09] I'm getting girl vibes.
[18:10] Yeah.
[18:11] But then the OB accidentally said he...
[18:14] Or she in a scan.
[18:15] So now I'm like, oh, it's a boy.
[18:17] So I don't know what it is.
[18:19] We will find out though because my husband is A-type, very OCD, wants to plan, wants to decorate, wants to do all the things and I don't let him win in anything.
[18:28] So I'm like, I'll give you this.
[18:30] You can choose this.
[18:32] But yeah, we haven't yet.
[18:33] I'm kind of one thing at a time.
[18:35] Maybe once I hit the 30-week mark.
[18:36] I like the three in front of it.
[18:38] That feels a bit –
[18:40] So safer, if that's the right word to say.
[18:42] Yeah.
[18:42] We're almost there, Beth.
[18:43] Oh, yeah.
[18:43] You're almost there.
[18:44] Very close.
[18:45] I think by the time this comes out, very close.
[18:46] Yeah.
[18:47] And I think it's like when you find out the gender.
[18:49] Like I know one of my babies I didn't.
[18:51] My second I found out the gender.
[18:52] And then this third one I found out the gender, but I didn't tell my husband what the gender was.
[18:56] You gatekept.
[18:57] I gatekept.
[18:58] He didn't want to know though.
[19:00] How did you keep that in?
[19:01] Oh.
[19:02] Yeah, how did you keep that?
[19:03] Oh, I told Bex straight away.
[19:04] So she knew before your husband did.
[19:06] Everybody knew except for my husband.
[19:07] And I would go to like the boy section and then he'd be looking at me at like David Jones or something and then he'd go, I'm like, oh, shit.
[19:13] And then I walked to the girl section and then I walked back to the boy.
[19:16] Red herring, keep him guessing.
[19:17] Oh, yeah, it was.
[19:19] But when I found out the gender, I think for me,
[19:22] and you'd probably be the same, you know, wanting to have that three in front of it.
[19:25] When you find out the gender, there's a whole different, I don't know, a connection.
[19:31] Yeah.
[19:31] It's real.
[19:32] Like, this is really happening.
[19:33] Well, you kind of, like, then you really see the future.
[19:37] And this is completely gender stereotyping, but your husband's obviously an amazing cricketer.
[19:42] And...
[19:43] you see the boy and you imagine them like playing cricket or playing footy or going and doing this as a job or having these play dates with his mates or liking dinosaurs.
[19:52] And with girls, you start thinking of your pink pretty dresses.
[19:54] Being on stage and sing.
[19:55] Or being on stage and singing, which you know you're very good at.
[19:58] You know, you start imagining their life and how it's going to look.
[20:01] Am I having a cricketer or a pop star?
[20:03] Yes.
[20:04] Why don't we have birth?
[20:05] Oh yeah, we can.
[20:07] We can.
[20:07] We can.
[20:08] We can.
[20:08] But I think that's so right.
[20:10] And given the journey that we've been on and the fact that the only way that I've gotten through is by dissociating, to be honest.
[20:18] And I've really not even believed that it's true.
[20:21] and it's happening, I think hopefully that will help me start connecting in a way that I haven't been able to.
[20:26] And now it's out in the world and everyone's coming up and sharing excitement or, you know, and you can imagine the DMs because what is so tragic about sharing an IVF journey in real time is you realise how many others are walking the same path as you.
[20:41] And it's like I'm so grateful.
[20:43] And you've been there.
[20:44] That's you for so long.
[20:45] For the messages.
[20:46] And I'm so grateful for the joy from people who still haven't experienced
[20:50] Even getting this far.
[20:53] But it's so just terribly sad how many people are going through it as well.
[20:57] So I think for that reason, maybe finding out the gender this time will actually help me specifically bond.
[21:05] And seeing Ben finally...
[21:07] pull down some of those walls that he's put up for such long time.
[21:10] He's a very stoic, very pragmatic, very measured sort of person.
[21:14] And I think cricket teaches you that because gentlemen in sport, they can't have a lot of feelings on the field.
[21:18] Yes, yeah.
[21:19] It's like ingrained into him.
[21:20] He's got to be level.
[21:21] Yeah, you can't just throw a cricket bat.
[21:23] No, you get fined for that.
[21:24] Believe me.
[21:25] Some of them do.
[21:26] Sometimes even as a grown adult, they still throw their gear and they get fined exorbitantly for it.
[21:33] I think cricket's taught him that.
[21:35] And so the walls have been up for a very long time.
[21:38] So maybe once he can visualise it as well, that will help us both sort of connect in a different way.
[21:44] But I think you've just given so many people so much hope, right?
[21:48] Like you're pregnant, those treading that path, you're the beacon right now, right?
[21:54] Like you literally...
[21:56] are the hope.
[21:56] And I'm sure there were people who you looked up to at that time as well and stories that you'd followed and thought they've done it and not to give up.
[22:05] Am I speaking the truth?
[22:06] Yeah, yeah.
[22:07] Oh, 100%.
[22:08] I mean, Tanya Hennessy was very open about her IVF journey.
[22:11] I love Tanya.
[22:12] She's great and she still checks in because she's like, I know what you're going through right now.
[22:15] She's like, how are you feeling?
[22:16] Are you even like, are you there?
[22:17] And I'm like, no, I'm not there.
[22:18] Like, she's, you know, feel all those feels as well.
[22:21] And the thing about why I started sharing was because I felt like
[22:25] And I completely understand why because it's so hard in the moment to be vulnerable and to share as you're experiencing loss after loss after hope after loss is that people don't share in real time because it's too painful.
[22:38] Yeah.
[22:38] But then when you're in it, all you want is to see someone else or be able to speak to someone else or listen to something that…
[22:45] rides on that journey with you.
[22:48] And so I thought if I can be that person, if I can share something that at all resonates with someone or at least just be like, hey, you know, I'm going through it too.
[22:58] And, you know, the private DMs, the people in our circles as well who've reached out, he would have no idea had gone through it as well.
[23:04] Yeah.
[23:05] It was actually a referral from, you know, someone who we all know very well in this world who put me on to the doctor that was ultimately successful.
[23:11] So I'll be forever grateful for her, for that connection.
[23:15] But it's, yeah, it's...
[23:17] I think it's like because people look at us...
[23:20] on TV or on radio or whatever, I think people think that, you know, this is why we did Vanish, that people think that we're almost like robots.
[23:29] Like everything's perfect.
[23:30] Life is, you know, there's no flaws, but we all do like have flaws.
[23:35] There's something going on.
[23:36] We're humans as well.
[23:37] Infertility does not discriminate.
[23:39] No, and that's the thing.
[23:40] I'm so lucky that I was in a position to be able to keep going and that's what breaks my heart is that, you know,
[23:46] So many people hit dead ends because they can't afford to keep going.
[23:50] And my issues were complex and they were very medical and there was a number of things along the way that had to be solved in this jigsaw puzzle of finding out what my issue was.
[23:59] And I'm very cautious to not ever share the specifics of that because it's such a...
[24:05] Like everyone's journey is completely different.
[24:07] It would be very negligent of me to say anything medical because what my situation was would be so different to anyone else's situation.
[24:15] But the one thing I will say is if you're not happy and you feel like you're hitting, you know, you're heading against a brick wall and you're not getting anywhere, seek a second opinion.
[24:23] You don't have to leave your doctor tomorrow, but just, you know, put it out there, speak to other people, see what other people can come up with.
[24:30] And that is, I think, ultimately what helped me.
[24:33] Yeah, amazing.
[24:34] Amazing.
[24:35] So let's... Baby chat.
[24:37] Baby chat was epic.
[24:39] I love that.
[24:40] But we've also touched base that you haven't really changed your routine, except for I'm sure it's skincare or like maybe, yeah, like exercise.
[24:49] You said you're, you know, obviously you're doing it at 70% now.
[24:52] So what is the day in the life of you?
[24:56] Like what is your skincare wellness routine?
[24:58] I'm going to stop you right there.
[24:59] I'm terrible because I do not have a routine.
[25:03] There is no routine.
[25:05] I mean, I live in two cities.
[25:07] Yeah.
[25:08] And then you're overseas all the time.
[25:09] I'm overseas a good six, seven months of the year, at least in different time zones.
[25:13] I think the thing about me is that I'm so malleable and hopefully that will make me a good parent because I don't know what sleep is and I think I'm permanently jet-lagged as well with the travel.
[25:23] But there really isn't a routine.
[25:25] It's just try and make the best possible option, decision,
[25:28] with what you've got and whether that's, I can't really train properly today because there isn't a gym in the hotel I'm at in the middle of India, wherever I am.
[25:36] And this is what I can do.
[25:38] So I'm going to do that.
[25:39] Or...
[25:40] I need to prioritize sleep.
[25:41] I'm really tired.
[25:42] I haven't slept very much.
[25:43] I'm not going to get up at 4am and go to the gym before I start shooting all day from six because that's not in my best interest.
[25:48] I just try and make the best possible decision with what I've got.
[25:52] And yeah, that goes down to beauty.
[25:55] Such a sports cliche, babe, but you're taking it one day at a time.
[25:58] One day at a time.
[25:59] And it stops the disappointment or getting psyched out of your mental space of, oh, well, this week's done now because I stuffed up Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
[26:07] I'll give up.
[26:08] I'll just
[26:08] No, just if you can get up and you can move in some way, that's what I do.
[26:12] Oh, my God, you're going to be the best parent ever.
[26:14] When shit hits the fan, you'll be like, so cool, calm and collect.
[26:17] You know, but my husband's the complete opposite, so I really worry about this child.
[26:20] If it's more me than him, like the judgment.
[26:23] You're still married.
[26:25] You're having a baby, so you're doing something right.
[26:27] I live in another city.
[26:28] It works really well.
[26:29] FIFO.
[26:29] What's it?
[26:30] FIFO.
[26:30] FIFO.
[26:30] But I think, I thought you were going to say FIFO.
[26:32] What's that?
[26:33] FIFO.
[26:35] around and find out.
[26:37] I'm a lot of that, to be honest.
[26:39] I love it.
[26:40] But that's what saved me and I think I used to beat myself up about routine.
[26:44] I used to think I have to eat so clean, so healthy, train all these days.
[26:47] The Miss World pageant, how my journey kind of started days.
[26:52] It was a very different time back then as well, obviously.
[26:54] We're talking...
[26:56] 13 years ago I won that.
[26:58] And then I was, you know, my background is, I don't know if people don't know, but I trained as basically a baby opera singer.
[27:03] I did classical voice at the Sydney Con.
[27:05] I wanted to do musical theatre.
[27:06] So dancing, being on stage, all of that was very much my lifestyle.
[27:10] Yeah.
[27:12] And it just, it doesn't work for you.
[27:14] Like mentally it doesn't work for you because you upset the routine, you upset the apple cart, everything goes out the window.
[27:20] Whereas holistically just trying to make good choices whenever I can and just accepting that some days are crazy and, you know, getting up at 3 a.m. to go to the gym is probably not in my best interest.
[27:30] Probably trying to get more than four hours sleep is going to be better for me.
[27:33] And just trying to live my life that way because it's so spontaneous, this world, as you know, the best opportunities come.
[27:39] Yeah.
[27:40] Yeah, and especially your job.
[27:42] Hey, I wanted to quickly ask, because I'm a germaphobe and I really worry about going to places like Bali and India.
[27:47] Being pregnant and traveling to India, has the pregnancy affected how or what supplements you take or how you approach your trips overseas where there's more bacteria and viruses?
[27:58] Different hotels.
[27:58] Deli Belli and things like that.
[28:00] Because when I was filming The Amazing Race and we were in India, Kate and I, and actually Jana Pittman and her son, we were the only teams not shitting our pants every day while we were on the race.
[28:10] Everyone was vomiting and shitting and passing out.
[28:14] How do you navigate that?
[28:15] That's the privilege of living in Australia, is you can touch something and you don't worry about the fact that there's... Oh, I still do, though.
[28:21] I still sat as ice, but yeah, that is the privilege.
[28:23] A drink from the tap.
[28:25] And as you rightly said, you don't have time to be sick.
[28:27] when you're doing those things.
[28:28] So it's just being very mindful all the time.
[28:31] It's so easy to open your mouth in the shower because you're so used to doing that in Australia, washing your mouth out or whatever, doing your teeth in the shower or whatever it is.
[28:38] It's just being so diligent.
[28:40] And because I've traveled there for, I got my first trip to India was in 2013 as well.
[28:45] So I've probably gone there about 20 times in my life.
[28:48] I go to Pakistan, I go to Bangladesh, I go to Sri Lanka.
[28:50] Yeah.
[28:51] I go to a bunch of places where you just have your wits about you a little bit more.
[28:55] And we just, in general, have different bacterias in different parts of the world.
[29:00] So I always get my... You're pretty much a local.
[29:02] You probably get the... You've got the iron gut, you know, of like, you know...
[29:06] I actually do think I have Karachi guts now, which is what they call it.
[29:09] Karachi gut?
[29:09] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[29:11] It's like a thing.
[29:11] It's a thing in Pakistan in particular because it's like you just strong insights now.
[29:16] Did you get sick back in the day?
[29:17] Like have you been sick in all the places?
[29:19] So you've kind of like got those antibodies or whatever that now when you go there, you're fine.
[29:23] It's interesting you say that.
[29:24] So the only time I've ever been really sick is when I did do Miss World.
[29:27] So after I won in Australia, I had to go and compete and I spent a month in Bali.
[29:31] Yeah.
[29:32] And I got so sick, but I didn't know I was sick.
[29:36] I got a parasite.
[29:37] Yeah.
[29:38] And I didn't know I was sick because everyone else at the 130 other girls were also tiny and losing weight from stress and just, you know, being in that environment.
[29:47] I didn't realize how bad it had got till my parents came to visit me at the end and they were like, what happened to you?
[29:52] You look like a pragmatist.
[29:53] And I was like, what?
[29:54] Really?
[29:54] I just look like everybody else.
[29:55] But yeah.
[29:56] I'd picked up a parasite and I hadn't been able to shake it for the entire month that I was there.
[30:00] Didn't know that I had it.
[30:02] Was a little bit sick every now and again.
[30:03] Not anything crazy, but more just like it attacked my immune system.
[30:06] And that took me years to shake that.
[30:09] I would get staph infections.
[30:11] I would get like any break in the skin.
[30:13] I would react really.
[30:14] I got so sick for a long time.
[30:16] But since I...
[30:17] fixed that immune system.
[30:19] You've been good.
[30:20] Did you have to take prescription medication to get rid of the parasite?
[30:24] Yeah, doctors gave me a really heavy-duty course of antibiotics, but then it took time just to sort of get my gut health, I think, back to a good place.
[30:32] And ever since then, I'm just really careful.
[30:35] I'm not overly careful.
[30:37] Like, I'll still indulge.
[30:38] I still obviously go out and eat at restaurants.
[30:40] I don't eat street food.
[30:41] I would love to because it's some of the best cuisine.
[30:43] you'll ever find in South Asia.
[30:46] But it's because I know I can't risk getting sick.
[30:48] It's just little things like that.
[30:49] Always have bottled water, have hand sanitizer.
[30:52] Yeah.
[30:52] Because, you know, you're going there for work.
[30:54] You're going there for, you know, and you're pregnant now.
[30:55] Like you're not going to risk it.
[30:56] No, no.
[30:57] Do you take like a travelan or like a probiotic or a cow colostrum or anything like that?
[31:02] No, I take, I always have my flu jacket before I go.
[31:06] I just find I don't want to get sick in those countries.
[31:08] I take any travel vaccinations that are recommended for the country.
[31:11] When I went to the Caribbean, I had to have yellow fever, for example.
[31:14] Yep.
[31:15] I always, you know, stay up to date with your tetanus and things like that if you accidentally cut your foot while you're overseas.
[31:20] But no, I like taking a lot of protein when I go because obviously some things are hard to get when you're away from home.
[31:27] So I always take my collagen.
[31:30] I've got a great...
[31:31] Great collagen that I take.
[31:32] I always take my protein.
[31:33] I have a lot of snacks.
[31:34] So if I'm ever stuck at the ground for long periods of time and the ground food doesn't – looks like it's been there for a little while.
[31:40] It doesn't make anybody sick, right?
[31:41] It doesn't matter where you are in the world or something sat there for a while.
[31:43] Yeah, I just try and sort of be prepared.
[31:47] And that goes down not just to the food and the supplements but also like –
[31:52] My beauty stuff.
[31:52] Yeah.
[31:53] Because it's really hard to get your beauty stuff when you're overseas as well.
[31:56] Sometimes it's like 45 degrees and humid and you're on camera.
[31:59] So what makeup do you use?
[32:02] I love something like a Makeup Forever Ultramatte HD or the YSL All Hours because it really sticks with you, which is lovely.
[32:10] It doesn't move too much.
[32:11] I'm luckily from Cairns in far north Queensland, so I'm very good with humidity.
[32:15] Yeah.
[32:16] I'm kind of custom-built.
[32:16] You're real mate to marry a cricket ass and go to India for work.
[32:21] I was.
[32:22] But, you know, you learn the products that work really well for you and stand the test of time because often when you're working in sport, you're there for like an 8, 10, 12-hour day as well on camera.
[32:31] Wow.
[32:32] A fixing spray as well, like a Huda Beauty.
[32:34] They've got a really good, I think it's called Boss Face or Boss Bitch Face or something like that.
[32:39] Have you ever used the L'Oreal one, the sellout one, that's just like a hairspray for your face?
[32:43] Oh, yeah.
[32:43] No.
[32:44] What's it called?
[32:44] I need that.
[32:45] It's red and it's in a can.
[32:47] It's like literally hairspraying in a face.
[32:49] Jessie Murphy uses it.
[32:51] Tammy Handbrow uses it.
[32:52] Yeah, I used to and I've got two cans but I've sold out everywhere now.
[32:55] No, I don't use it because I've noticed maybe it's just the foundation I'm pairing it with.
[33:02] powdery.
[33:02] It's, I don't know, it's not sitting.
[33:04] The layer on the skin.
[33:05] Yeah, it's not sitting.
[33:07] The makeup almost like separates a little bit.
[33:09] So maybe it's just my skincare routine that I do beforehand or yeah, I've got to play around with it, but it's really good.
[33:15] It's apparently like, or face glue, which is a new thing.
[33:18] Do you use that?
[33:19] No, no, I need to get on this.
[33:21] Yeah.
[33:21] And do you change from Sydney to being obviously in a humid environment?
[33:25] Do you change skincare routines or?
[33:27] No.
[33:28] Nah.
[33:28] That's too much drama.
[33:29] Too much drama.
[33:29] Yeah.
[33:29] It's the same face.
[33:31] It's just that.
[33:31] Talk to me about your hair.
[33:33] This hair's insane.
[33:35] Is that all yours or James?
[33:37] No.
[33:37] But it's been so well coloured that I had to ask because there's no real difference in like the texture and colour between your hair.
[33:45] Well, you know I'm blonde naturally.
[33:46] Like I'm just his colour naturally.
[33:47] This colour.
[33:49] So these roots get done every three weeks because I'm fair as.
[33:53] Wow.
[33:53] We're like Norwegian.
[33:55] I never knew that.
[33:56] You're Norwegian.
[33:57] We're Norwegian background, English, Irish, Norwegian, very fair, very pasty skin.
[34:00] Same as me.
[34:01] We're probably sisters.
[34:02] We're cousins.
[34:03] Can't go on the sun because I'm like, Vikings.
[34:05] We are.
[34:06] We are.
[34:07] So this is all completely manufactured.
[34:08] And yes, I have a whole head of hair extensions.
[34:11] It's just got done.
[34:12] Tape, wefts or K-tips.
[34:14] I'm very passionate about this and look great.
[34:16] Whatever your hair journey, whatever works for you.
[34:18] But for me and what I do for work, I need a keratin bond.
[34:21] I need something that can be malleable no matter what.
[34:24] So whether I'm wearing a slick back like your beautiful do today, whether I've got my hair down, because the bonds are flat bonded, so I use Great Lens Extensions.
[34:31] It's real hair.
[34:32] It's just not grown on my head.
[34:35] And it's just the easiest way to have the most available options for styling.
[34:40] Jess and I have the sewn-in weft and weft.
[34:42] I might look okay from the front, but from the back.
[34:45] Give us a look.
[34:46] You can see them.
[34:46] They need to be moved.
[34:48] Yeah, you can just see the line.
[34:50] They need to be moved.
[34:52] But also I need to keep them really low because I've got a low crown.
[34:54] So in the wind, they separate and you can see them if they're too high.
[34:58] So I'm going to have it low, but then you can see it in a podium.
[34:59] I play netball and tennis and it's a drama.
[35:01] So I'm going to get the keratin bonds.
[35:03] I really am.
[35:04] How long does it take you?
[35:06] It's a process.
[35:06] Like it definitely takes a few hours.
[35:08] But what I like about them as well, and the number one thing I get asked is,
[35:11] does it damage your hair, obviously, with how much you get it styled?
[35:14] And my answer to that is, and I saw my hair only two days ago when Remy redid my hair extensions, but my own hair is better quality now than before I got hair extensions because when you're styling the extensions...
[35:27] It's not your hair, it's... Yeah.
[35:29] It moulds and around it.
[35:30] And so because the extensions hold shape so much better than your natural hair, I'm not styling my hair every day.
[35:34] I got this done two days ago.
[35:36] I haven't touched it.
[35:36] Yeah.
[35:37] Until I wash it, this will still keep the bulk of that.
[35:39] That's
[35:40] So I'm finding I'm actually styling a lot less, which therefore means less heat damage, which is better for my hair overall.
[35:46] The only downside to them is that they are not reusable, these ones, but they do get donated back to cancer charities who create wigs out of them.
[35:54] So for patients, which is awesome.
[35:56] So that's one great thing.
[35:57] Great links do also have tapes and things, but for me personally, with what I do, I'm
[36:01] Yeah.
[36:02] And depending on how.
[36:02] You need them disguised so you can't see them.
[36:04] And it depends on how fast your hair grows.
[36:06] My hair grows really fast.
[36:07] So I'm about every four months I get a new set, but people can have them for six months.
[36:10] Yeah.
[36:11] So you literally do that two to three times a year.
[36:14] Well, we're doing ours like every five weeks.
[36:16] Game changer.
[36:18] I am done with my extensions.
[36:20] I'm so surprised that you wouldn't have them already because they're so much better for styling.
[36:23] But our friend that gets them, she gets them done in Sydney as well.
[36:25] I don't think it's really a Melbourne thing.
[36:28] I can find you someone, babe.
[36:29] Don't worry.
[36:29] Can you please let us know?
[36:31] And then we're going to get them on Vanish to talk about it.
[36:34] But for me, it's just the volume is like just amazing.
[36:37] It's great.
[36:38] Your hair is amazing.
[36:39] And I'm actually thinking like pop stars when they're on stage and they have the big wind blowing thing.
[36:43] It's because she's a pop star.
[36:44] They need to have that so you don't see the tapes and you don't see the weft.
[36:47] And you're not colouring your hair because they create colour.
[36:50] So I have four different colours.
[36:52] They split on them so they create more fine blended colour by...
[36:57] Splitting them, rebonding them together and then putting them in your head.
[37:00] So you can create colour without having to put any colour in your own hair as well, which I love.
[37:04] So highlights and things like that.
[37:05] It's not my own hair.
[37:06] It's just extensions.
[37:07] So what made you go brunette?
[37:10] Because blondes have more fun.
[37:12] Well, yes.
[37:13] No, they do.
[37:13] It would be a lot easier for me to be blonde.
[37:16] But it was actually a colour campaign for Fashion Week in 2000 and I want to say 17 or 18.
[37:23] 18.
[37:23] So it's been a long time now.
[37:25] And Goldwell Colour Company, they wanted to change my hair for Fashion Week for like a big PR moment.
[37:31] Yeah.
[37:31] And they wanted to dye it pink.
[37:32] And I was like, oh.
[37:34] I'm not sure I can make pink work with work.
[37:37] Yeah.
[37:37] So my great manager, Morgan, out there, he's like, it's ever the diplomat.
[37:40] He's like, how about brown?
[37:42] Yeah, yeah.
[37:42] Because she's been blonde her entire life.
[37:44] Like, let's take a dark.
[37:46] And then everyone thought it was so much better than being blonde.
[37:49] They said, oh, it brings out your eyes.
[37:50] It makes you look, you do really suit it.
[37:52] It looks very, like, beautiful and beautiful for you.
[37:54] But then the...
[37:55] fake tan has to keep up with it as well.
[37:57] So she's a lot of high maintenance.
[37:59] But it's, you know, I do really like it.
[38:02] I'm playing around with different kinds of brunette now.
[38:04] I've been really, really dark.
[38:06] I've been a bit lighter.
[38:07] We're kind of on the way back at the moment to lightness.
[38:09] But yeah, my hair grows really fast.
[38:12] Maybe I say this is me going, should I go brunette?
[38:14] You look amazing.
[38:15] Do you know what?
[38:16] Yeah, well, I did go brunette.
[38:18] I did go brown a couple in 2023.
[38:21] I just couldn't keep up with spray tans.
[38:23] I just, that was the thing.
[38:24] And when I didn't have a spray tans, I just looked washed out.
[38:26] My eyebrows are really blonde.
[38:27] I just washed me.
[38:29] Maybe you see more blonde foils through it.
[38:31] Yeah.
[38:31] There's a bit more variation.
[38:33] What's it called?
[38:33] There's a new blonde now.
[38:35] It's called Rich Blonde.
[38:37] Oh.
[38:37] Which is like, you know, the Margot Robbie.
[38:39] Oh, okay.
[38:40] It's like that whole honey color.
[38:43] I thought I could do that, but my bank account's not adding up to it.
[38:46] I could see that.
[38:47] I could see you doing that.
[38:48] I think that'd be beautiful.
[38:49] Yeah.
[38:50] For winter.
[38:50] Try a little bit darker for winter.
[38:52] You've inspired me.
[38:53] You've inspired me.
[38:54] No.
[39:01] Erin, do you do like facials or lasers or like what's the maintenance with that?
[39:06] And you mentioned spray tans.
[39:08] What's the routine?
[39:08] Yeah, not too many spray tans these days.
[39:10] Obviously, you've got to be a bit cautious when you're pregnant.
[39:13] So make sure that it's highly ventilated if you go and get them done.
[39:16] I get some amazing ones at the Parlour Room, which is a place in Sydney.
[39:19] They're incredible and they've got really beautiful...
[39:22] salons and spaces where it's safe to do so and it's highly ventilated.
[39:25] Otherwise, I use Three Warriors, you know, that Aussie, Wabon local tan, Sonny Kruger does a lot with them as well.
[39:33] Yeah.
[39:33] But it's Tasmanian, it's infused with olive oil.
[39:36] Oh, nice.
[39:36] Yeah, which is really nice.
[39:38] And just take the edge off the pastiness because when I say I'm pasty, like I look like a gecko.
[39:43] Like my veins, you can't even see them through that.
[39:45] Imagine if I had no tan.
[39:47] Yeah, like I'm.
[39:48] I've got tan on.
[39:48] My husband calls me a gecko.
[39:50] I've got tan on.
[39:51] Yeah, yeah.
[39:51] You win, Jess.
[39:52] No, but I've got tan on.
[39:53] I'm freshly painted.
[39:54] No, you don't.
[39:54] You don't have tan on, Jess.
[39:55] I do have tan on.
[39:56] On that side, not on the under.
[39:57] I do at all.
[39:58] But I need to touch it up.
[40:00] Whoa, babe.
[40:01] It's called blue blood.
[40:02] We're broil.
[40:04] I love that.
[40:04] And I'm finding because apparently you're pumping so much more blood around your body when you're pregnant too.
[40:08] Yeah, you get even veins on my chest.
[40:11] The boob veins.
[40:12] The boobs.
[40:13] Can we just go back to the boobs?
[40:14] A boob vein.
[40:15] I've never even had boobs.
[40:16] How good are they?
[40:16] Oh, so good.
[40:17] Wait till the milk comes through.
[40:19] It's weird.
[40:19] The boob vein I popped with Oscar, my oldest, never went away afterwards.
[40:23] So I've always just got this thick vein that just stays.
[40:25] Sexy.
[40:26] Probably a varicose vein.
[40:27] Yeah, yeah.
[40:28] You're like, thanks, darling.
[40:29] Thanks.
[40:29] Thanks, baby.
[40:31] If you could get one beauty treatment for the rest of your life, what would it be?
[40:35] I really like the way my skin responds to skin needling.
[40:39] And it is something that I still can do at the moment, pregnant, but we are easing off a little bit at the moment just because my barrier is a little bit impaired.
[40:46] So we're doing more enzyme facials than needling, but I really like needling.
[40:50] Yeah, I find skin needling probably gives me the best result and bang for my buck.
[40:54] So I just feel like my skin looks fresher.
[40:57] The texture feels better.
[40:59] Yeah, I just think in terms of
[41:01] whether I get an enzyme or a skin needling, the skin needling just seems to just, yeah, just work for you.
[41:05] Do that a little bit more, yeah.
[41:06] It's not comfortable, but I'm also like, no pain, no gain.
[41:09] Yeah, exactly.
[41:11] Yeah, do you numb first?
[41:12] No, God, no.
[41:13] No, waste the time.
[41:14] After IVF, like, you, needles are nothing.
[41:18] They're like, yeah, absolutely nothing.
[41:19] I'm like, crank it up.
[41:20] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[41:21] And do you do like Fraxels or CO2 or anything?
[41:23] Because the reason I'm asking you, your skin is so clear.
[41:25] Like you have no pigment.
[41:26] There's no like marks.
[41:28] You might just have really good foundation.
[41:29] You might be like, you should see me underneath.
[41:30] Good genes.
[41:31] Yeah.
[41:32] No, I have been blessed with pretty good skin.
[41:35] During IVF, I had a lot of really deep-seated congestion and my skin really freaked out in a different way.
[41:41] And that was one of the hardest things for me because I felt like my exterior was looking as crap as my interior.
[41:46] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[42:05] When I went through my immune protocol IVF, which is where they pump you full of steroids and different kind of drugs, trying to basically lull your body into a sense of not attacking any foreign bodies like embryos that go in, I puffed up.
[42:19] So you get moon face when you've been on steroids for too long.
[42:21] So like prednisone, you actually get all this fluid retention and my face swelled up to like a little moon.
[42:27] I didn't realize how bad it was until I started going through my old
[42:30] content that I'd taken depressingly across the last five years.
[42:33] And I was like, oh, I remember that phase.
[42:35] Oh my God, why didn't anyone tell me that my face looked like I've been attacked with a filler pen, which I've never done.
[42:40] And I was like, oh my God, I look like I've really gone to war.
[42:44] Yeah.
[42:44] You know, at a cosmetic surgeon and come out with a moon face, but all the fluid from the prednisone that I was on every day and the colexine injections, which are like a blood thinner, as well as the egg stims.
[42:55] I was so round.
[42:57] I kind of feel like as my face has gone back to normal, it doesn't look quite the same as it did.
[43:02] Yeah, yeah.
[43:04] My skin is very good at bouncing back from things.
[43:07] I can get needling done and I can be at work that night.
[43:10] Some people have redness and then like for whatever reason, my skin reacts very well.
[43:14] That's the Irish in you.
[43:16] Is it?
[43:17] Yes.
[43:17] I feel like I go get lasers or I go get, I've only had like maybe two or three lasers.
[43:21] Yeah.
[43:21] in my life, but I'll go get something done or a peel.
[43:24] And my skin, I walk out the same going, it's not done anything.
[43:28] Why is my face not peeling off?
[43:29] And they've gone to the highest and it just doesn't budge.
[43:32] When you got IPL that time, you got not a single bit of pigment came out.
[43:36] And I've got pigments.
[43:37] I was like, they're like, it's Teflon.
[43:39] The settings.
[43:40] The settings on you.
[43:41] They just don't have machines that are used to seeing such white skin.
[43:44] Yeah, I think I miss everything.
[43:45] Not strong enough.
[43:46] The thing right with IPL hair removal and stuff, I can't get it.
[43:49] I'm not going to be able to do it.
[43:51] It's the worst.
[43:52] You can't see, but like, I am so blonde.
[43:54] Yeah.
[43:55] Like, there is, yeah, there's nothing.
[43:56] We're blonde from head to toe.
[43:58] Yeah.
[43:58] I say no bullshit, it's blonde.
[43:59] It's blonde.
[44:00] I feel like we need to set a laser.
[44:01] I have to say this, and like, everyone's going to hate me, and I'm so sorry, but I genuinely didn't know the difference between a Brazilian and a bikini wax.
[44:08] Oh.
[44:09] Because it didn't grow where it wasn't meant to.
[44:11] And I was like, aren't they the same thing?
[44:12] And everyone's like, shut up.
[44:13] Yeah, yeah, because it doesn't grow when they're blonde.
[44:15] Because it's like there's a coarseness to pubic hair.
[44:18] And then for blondes, it's like hair on your head down there.
[44:23] Yes, and it doesn't go, it doesn't travel.
[44:24] It's soft.
[44:25] It's quite straight.
[44:26] It's straight, yeah.
[44:26] It's weird.
[44:27] Where did we get here?
[44:29] Maori over here with blonde hair.
[44:32] Black hair.
[44:34] Let me tell you, and you probably noticed just among the community when you go to the beach or your girlfriends or whatever, the darker the hair, the more it grows and it spreads.
[44:41] Yeah.
[44:42] It's like, whoa, like get out the hair and trim it.
[44:44] But also when we're blonde, you can't even see it.
[44:46] So it's like, you know.
[44:48] I remember when I was a kid looking at my mum one day, I'm like, oh, my God, it grows halfway down to your knees.
[44:55] So you're the favourite child out there, obviously.
[44:58] I love when I walked out one time, but I was like sitting there, I was like, he was in the bed and I was like, had a shower and I was going to get dressed.
[45:03] He's like, oh honey, did you wax for me?
[45:07] And I'm like, no babe.
[45:08] And he's like, oh no, it's just see-through because it's like so fair.
[45:11] It's just...
[45:13] All right, shut up, I'm jealous.
[45:14] Shut up, you two.
[45:15] I want to know, Erin, random or affordable beauty products you genuinely swear by, like supermarket chemist kind of finds that are in your kit, non-negotiable all the time.
[45:25] Yeah, I think in terms of beauty, you can't go past a good Maybelline mascara because you can get it anywhere.
[45:31] Even when I'm overseas as well, everyone imports stuff in.
[45:34] I can always get myself a really good, you know, the pink one with the green lid, whatever it's called.
[45:40] I've had it in.
[45:40] Because I'm a dancer too.
[45:42] Madeleine great.
[45:42] Yeah, that's good.
[45:43] Been around forever since we were at school.
[45:44] Yeah, Jade uses it still.
[45:45] It's so good.
[45:45] It was like my first ever mascara was that.
[45:48] And it's still good and iconic.
[45:49] I have eyelash extensions.
[45:50] That's another thing that I can't really go without 24-7.
[45:53] Yeah.
[45:54] I just find it easier for work as well when I've got to do my own glam.
[45:56] But the brush on it is great for not clumping your lashes together and it just separates them but gives a little bit of volume.
[46:04] It's great.
[46:05] I always have nipple.
[46:06] Hollywood secrets or booby tape nipple covers, which you can get in like Kempsway House and Woolies and everything now, which is great.
[46:14] I always travel with them.
[46:15] Although I kind of have to start wearing a bra now, which is the first time in my life, which is really inconvenient.
[46:21] Oh, this is nothing, babe.
[46:23] Wait till they're coming through.
[46:24] The other day I genuinely got a shock because I was like, what can I feel?
[46:28] And I was like, on me.
[46:29] You feel me on me.
[46:31] And it's never happened.
[46:32] It's been my life.
[46:33] Yeah, I can put a pen under my boobs now.
[46:35] I was like, drapage.
[46:37] You've got drapage.
[46:38] Do you know what one of my favourite things was when I got pregnant, especially with the twins, is it felt comfortable to sit down.
[46:45] I've always had the boniest, skinniest ass.
[46:48] Not by choice, guys.
[46:50] I was just born like that.
[46:51] Sitting down for a long time, especially on the aeroplane seats, my sitting bones, I've got kind of permanent dark skin, bruising marks on my butt from...
[47:00] sitting.
[47:01] And then when I got pregnant with the twins, oh, my God.
[47:04] Did you get a booty?
[47:04] It was like sitting on a – A bouncy ball.
[47:06] Like a cushion.
[47:06] Yeah.
[47:06] My ass became a cushion.
[47:08] I'm like, this is what it's been like for everyone.
[47:10] Like, this is actually – I'm actually comfy sitting on a cushion.
[47:13] You could never have said a nine-to-five job in an office.
[47:16] No.
[47:17] No.
[47:17] No, I've got permanent sit mark stains on my skin.
[47:20] Yeah.
[47:21] Wow.
[47:21] Anyway.
[47:22] I love our cycles.
[47:22] Yeah, pregnancy was good like that.
[47:24] Yeah.
[47:24] Yeah.
[47:24] Sounds like a win.
[47:25] I know.
[47:25] I quite enjoy the boobs, but I don't imagine they'll stick around, unfortunately.
[47:31] They might.
[47:32] They might.
[47:33] They might.
[47:34] Oh, you can.
[47:34] There's things you can do.
[47:35] Yeah.
[47:36] You can.
[47:38] Mine didn't stick around since when I'm born near bed.
[47:40] Same.
[47:42] Okay.
[47:43] Is there any beauty trend or treatment you've tried that you thought never, ever again hated it, disaster, hide me from the world?
[47:50] To be honest, I haven't had too many bad experiences, which has been great.
[47:55] I haven't tried.
[47:56] I mean, I've never tried.
[47:58] I'm glad I didn't go down the skinny eyebrows thing because as a blonde, I'm always trying to give myself eyebrows.
[48:03] Then all of a sudden, everyone was trying to take them away again.
[48:05] I was like, no, no, no.
[48:06] One thing I won't do is microblading.
[48:09] I just get a bit scared, I think, with my skin and with the hair that...
[48:14] if it bleeds, if something happens, like you can't take it back.
[48:17] Basically, I'd rather go and get them tinted every two, three weeks and go down.
[48:21] Yeah.
[48:21] Then go down that route.
[48:22] I just, I'm just not that lucky.
[48:24] Yeah.
[48:24] I just think.
[48:25] I always think like when you do like, I have done the tattooing before on my eyebrows and I actually really liked it.
[48:29] It gave it a good border and
[48:31] you know, just to kind of fill in.
[48:32] Yeah.
[48:32] And just to follow, you know, when I get my wax, the shape of it.
[48:36] But I did find that like when I did it, cause we're so blonde, you'd see all these little white hairs and it was dark underneath.
[48:42] It was weird.
[48:43] It was weird.
[48:44] It was weird.
[48:44] I actually do enjoy it.
[48:45] I just need to, if I was to do it, do it more often.
[48:48] Yeah.
[48:49] That's all it is.
[48:49] Yeah.
[48:50] But yeah, no, I get it.
[48:51] I get it.
[48:51] The permanency of it scares me a little bit.
[48:53] I like the fact that if it, you know, if it goes out of trend or if it's...
[48:56] Yeah.
[48:57] You know, we're doing a shoot or something where they're like, no, we want that like no brow look.
[48:59] And I'm like, I'm going to give it to you.
[49:01] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[49:02] Yes, that's so true.
[49:03] That's so true.
[49:03] And with extensions, the great thing is, is like, I don't have to commit to a look so I can chop them off and then I get a new set if I want the length or we can change the colour really easily.
[49:12] I'm not attached to my hair, which is quite nice.
[49:16] So I don't have to worry too much about committing to something because if I hate it, I'm like, oh, I'll put some more back in.
[49:22] Yeah, yeah.
[49:22] Next time I get it done, which is fun.
[49:24] Yeah, there you go.
[49:26] All right.
[49:27] Here is our iconic question to ask you.
[49:30] What is your most vainish moment?
[49:35] I love it.
[49:35] Everyone laughs about this.
[49:36] I feel like it should have been when I was at Miss Well, but I had no idea what I was doing.
[49:41] If I could do it again now, knowing what I know, I would have been like these girls that came with folders with the daily outfit and the look and the this and the that.
[49:49] And I'm a kid from Cairns that didn't really know what she was doing.
[49:52] Just throwing it together, hoping for the best.
[49:54] Probably the most vainish moment was when I knocked out half of my front tooth on a plane.
[50:00] Oh, no.
[50:01] On my way to shoot a campaign for Qatar Airways at a new destination, and my poor manager, my long-suffering manager, Morgan, and I had to, in our stopover, get in a taxi, call an international dentist and go and get a new front tooth at like 1am in the morning in a five-hour stopover.
[50:19] Oh, my.
[50:19] And because at the time, and because I was working for the airline I was on, thank God, the problem.
[50:24] pilots like had to call ahead and find me somewhere to go.
[50:27] Before you land.
[50:28] Basically, I'd come back from Canada that day.
[50:32] So I've been hosting a comp over in Canada.
[50:33] It's like 27 hours or something back from Toronto to Vancouver to Sydney.
[50:38] And I couldn't just go straight to Malta where we were going.
[50:41] Yeah.
[50:42] Because we were shooting on the plane.
[50:43] So I had to come back to Australia.
[50:44] I had six hours to unpack, repack and go.
[50:46] So I'm like, I'm death's door at this point anyway.
[50:48] I'm so tired.
[50:49] And I never, ever take sleeping tablets.
[50:51] Like I don't like...
[50:53] the way they make me feel when I wake up.
[50:54] I like a little bit of melatonin, which I can't even have at the moment.
[50:57] But that's kind of as far as I go.
[50:59] And I'm like, no, I really need to sleep because as soon as we get to Malta, like we are filming all day for the next three days.
[51:04] I need to sleep.
[51:06] So I have like half of a sleeping tablet.
[51:08] And in my stupor and my bladder the size of a small child, even pre-regnancy, I've gotten up to go to the toilet, obviously.
[51:15] And woken up on the floor of the toilet and there's blood.
[51:18] I was like, oh, God.
[51:19] Like, oh, my God, I've cut my eyebrow.
[51:21] Oh, my God.
[51:21] I look in the mirror, I smile, and half my front tooth is gone.
[51:25] And I was like, oh, God.
[51:27] Oh, my God.
[51:28] So you've passed out because of the sleeping tablet in the toilet.
[51:31] I think a bit of low blood pressure, which is very normal for me.
[51:33] Been flying for so long as well.
[51:34] Been flying for so long as well.
[51:36] Jet lag on top of jet lag.
[51:37] I've gotten up and stumbled my way to the bathroom.
[51:40] Hmm.
[51:41] Fainted in the toilet, knocked out my front tooth, gone, oh my God.
[51:44] Where was the blood from?
[51:46] The eyebrow.
[51:46] So I split the eyebrow.
[51:47] I was like, oh my God.
[51:48] So I've gone, I need help.
[51:50] So I've opened the door, tripped over my little slipper, collapsed and hit the galley in front of me and then passed out again.
[51:56] So I wake up.
[51:58] Oh, my God.
[51:59] When was this?
[52:00] This was in 2000 and I want to say 19 maybe, which is why I have veneers now because once you lose a bit of your front tooth, it always comes off at the most inopportune time, which is not great when you're a TV presenter.
[52:14] So I've woken up again and they're looking over me going, oh, my God, like what are we going to do?
[52:18] So they rush and they go and they wake Morgan, my manager, up and he kind of comes over and he's looking at me and he's like, oh, she's fine.
[52:26] And he's like, oh, okay.
[52:27] And then he wakes up a few hours later and he goes, I just had the weirdest dream that you'd knocked out your front tooth and I just smiled at him and he went, what?
[52:34] I didn't tell that was this cold.
[52:36] It wasn't even a good one.
[52:37] I'm just so useless.
[52:39] He had a wild dream.
[52:40] He thought it was a dream and I just smiled at him and he goes, oh, God, it wasn't a dream.
[52:45] So I had to go and get this fake tooth.
[52:48] put on me.
[52:48] And then I had a cut and a swollen like side of my face where I collapsed.
[52:53] I was kind of cheating the whole shoot.
[52:54] Like from this side, like don't look at me.
[52:56] And then it was just such an issue for the years after I kept losing the cap on the tooth.
[53:03] It was always right before I had to do something, a big shoot, whatever it was.
[53:06] And I just had to go to a point where I was like, I can't, like I've got to, I've got to sort it out.
[53:10] It was obviously a really big thing to go through, but I couldn't have that.
[53:13] bit of my tooth coming off.
[53:15] The day before something.
[53:16] Yeah.
[53:16] Or the day of.
[53:17] Or the day.
[53:18] And it happens so many times.
[53:19] Like there'll be so many times it'd be right before a game across like Christmas time or something.
[53:23] And I'm like, I'm on Channel 7 that night.
[53:24] And I'm like, oh my God, my tooth's falling out.
[53:26] And it's like, come on, come here.
[53:28] Yeah, yeah.
[53:28] It's only Christmas day, but whatever.
[53:30] Whatever.
[53:30] Oh, gosh.
[53:32] I know.
[53:32] So that was probably... That's a pretty great story.
[53:35] It's pretty wild.
[53:37] Great international dentist in Doha.
[53:38] I've got one.
[53:39] Everyone needs one.
[53:40] Yeah, all hours.
[53:41] All hours.
[53:42] Literally 1am, the poor bastard.
[53:44] And thank God for travel insurance.
[53:46] That's all I'll say.
[53:47] Yeah, wow.
[53:48] But yeah, that was a lot.
[53:49] And just like problem solving that in the time was...
[53:52] I just love that the pilot just calls ahead.
[53:55] Well, it was only a plane that didn't have Wi-Fi.
[53:58] Otherwise, I could have done it myself.
[53:59] Yeah.
[54:00] To get on the boat.
[54:02] What's it called?
[54:03] The station?
[54:03] The air tower.
[54:05] We need a dentist.
[54:06] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[54:07] The ambassador of the airline has knocked out our front two.
[54:09] Not our fault.
[54:10] Not on the plane.
[54:10] Not on the plane.
[54:11] Fuck any help around.
[54:11] We were an ambulance on the tarmac.
[54:14] It was wild.
[54:15] Oh, my God.
[54:16] Oh, gosh.
[54:17] And you're right about the universe works in funny ways.
[54:20] Usually when you've got a big job for something, some weird beauty thing happens.
[54:25] Whenever I'd have a bloody brown low, I'd get like,
[54:27] Cold sore.
[54:28] Cold sore or like a massive breakout the night before or I'm shooting like a makeup campaign or a jewellery campaign and I'd wake up with my eyes stuck together and four conjunctivitis from the kids or I was shooting a skincare company campaign, lip liners and lipstick, and I did get a cold sore that day.
[54:44] It was like your first cold sore too.
[54:46] Oh, my God.
[54:46] I was like, what?
[54:47] Yeah, yeah.
[54:48] But then the owner, Joel, at the skincare company, goes...
[54:51] Oh, babe, your lips look pretty big and luscious though.
[54:54] Don't really use that lipstick you're about to put on my lips.
[54:55] Yeah, but it was just on one side.
[54:57] Yeah, I remember.
[54:57] So I had to like just favour that side and it kind of hide it.
[55:01] But the lips were enormous.
[55:02] So I had a fully blown cold sore.
[55:04] Yeah, yeah.
[55:04] On the day that I'm shooting a lipstick campaign, the only day of my life I've ever shot a lipstick campaign and I woke up with a cold sore.
[55:10] I look at the universe and go, God, this is weird.
[55:12] What are you doing to me?
[55:13] Absolutely.
[55:14] It's like presenting.
[55:15] I need my teeth.
[55:16] Yeah.
[55:16] Everyone's looking at my mouth.
[55:17] Just before you're on TV, tooth drop out now.
[55:20] Like it's insane.
[55:21] It's just like, you know, you just gotta roll with the punches.
[55:23] If that's the worst thing that ever happens to us, obviously we're doing very well, but very –
[55:28] inopportune time, that's for sure.
[55:30] And it ended up being one of the biggest things I've ever had to do aesthetically to fix that and just to stop it happening ever again.
[55:36] Well, your teeth look great.
[55:37] Thank you.
[55:37] You do have really great veneers, actually.
[55:40] They're very natural.
[55:41] They don't look like veneers.
[55:42] And that is what we want.
[55:43] Yes.
[55:44] Transparency in the teeth and like the little grooves and stuff.
[55:47] I'm like, I know all about teeth now.
[55:49] Not blue and fluorescent that you can see from like across the... Yeah, exactly.
[55:52] We're talking about teeth like they're
[55:53] diamonds.
[55:54] It's a D-E with a fluorescent.
[55:56] Yeah, they're fluorescent as diamonds.
[55:58] Yeah, literally.
[56:00] Babe, what is next for you aside from growing a baby?
[56:03] What are you working on?
[56:05] What are you excited about right now?
[56:06] Yeah, so my husband and I have had a little development company for a while now.
[56:10] So we do a bit of residential and multi-res builds on the side.
[56:15] But as my husband transitions out of cricket, he's become a full-time real estate agent.
[56:19] And I've gotten my own real estate license as well in the last 12 months because I'm undertaking a new project.
[56:25] We're Century 21 called Home of the Century, which is a little, basically a mini TV show, but I'm calling it a vodcast all about real life Australians.
[56:33] The way that they've gotten themselves in this property market, whether it's investing, renovation, property pitfalls, auctions, how to navigate this landscape, which, you know, really couldn't be more prevalent given...
[56:44] the way things are at the moment.
[56:46] Capital Gaines changes and negative gearing.
[56:48] All of that fun stuff.
[56:49] So that's been really fun, doing that with Darren Palmer, who is the best.
[56:53] We're getting Darren on the show soon.
[56:54] Oh, he's so good.
[56:56] We just had the best time.
[56:57] And obviously we traveled kind of all the way over New South Wales for the first season and we'll be going into other markets as it progresses.
[57:02] But, you know, spending five, six hours in the car with him, like the way.
[57:05] It'd be so much fun.
[57:06] You should put a camera in the car.
[57:07] There's your show.
[57:08] There's your show.
[57:09] Go pose on your head.
[57:10] Yeah, but it's great.
[57:11] And I think, you know,
[57:12] Australian dream of owning the four walls that you live in is still really alive and well, but it feels like it's impossible for so many of us these days.
[57:18] So it's been really nice to sit down with everyday Aussies, find out how people have gone about getting into the market for the first time, the things that they've learned as, you know, the landscape changes exorbitantly.
[57:30] Just...
[57:31] Any tips and tricks and just, yeah, real life stories people can relate to about how to deal with it as well has been really fun.
[57:38] And it's a nice new string to the bow, I suppose.
[57:41] It's so interesting because it's like, how do you afford a property?
[57:44] Like, what are, you know, how did you get there?
[57:47] Because, yeah, like you said, it's definitely a lot of people think it's out of reach.
[57:51] Yeah.
[57:51] And can you blame them?
[57:53] Yeah.
[57:53] No, you can't blame them.
[57:54] Every article you read is doom and gloom.
[57:56] You know, the younger generation, too much avocado on toast, you can never be able to afford your own home.
[58:00] Like, good luck unless you've got parents who've got money.
[58:03] Well, that's the thing.
[58:04] Bank of mum and dad.
[58:05] It's the bank of mum and dad now.
[58:07] Yeah.
[58:07] which, you know, I didn't have and I had to find my own way.
[58:11] And, you know, a lot of things that I had to say no to in my early years, in my early 20s and things to be able to afford to save and like investing outside of the areas that I live in because I couldn't afford the areas that I lived in, rent vesting, renting that out, having an asset that,
[58:27] you know, was in a great area that's appreciated so much now.
[58:30] It allowed me to get into the property market again, things that I didn't understand.
[58:34] Yeah.
[58:34] And also like Darren's first property, you know, watch episode one, but he did it with three other people, his partner and two friends.
[58:41] And that's how they got in at 27 years of age.
[58:43] And had he not done that, the Darren Palmer we know and love would not exist.
[58:47] That's what started his whole journey.
[58:49] Yeah.
[58:49] It is a really
[58:51] you know, Australia is such a wonderful country to live in for so many reasons.
[58:55] And I just hope we find a solution in a way that enables more Aussies to get into the market.
[58:59] My husband and I have got a new project coming up as well, some townhouses in Brisbane as well, which is great.
[59:05] So that's keeping us busy too.
[59:06] But for me, just...
[59:08] Having my own live property investor experience, but then also like coming at it from the education of actually being a licensed agent now as well, I feel like it's true.
[59:18] I know.
[59:18] But you know what it's like?
[59:20] The first time, you know, you ever step into a new field, they go, what would you know?
[59:23] And I go, well, I know some things.
[59:25] Yeah.
[59:26] I know this area.
[59:28] I do know.
[59:29] And, you know, I feel qualified at least to speak on some areas of the market.
[59:32] Housing crisis.
[59:34] Yeah.
[59:34] I mean, the people who are supposed to know still don't know how to deal with that.
[59:37] So it's an overarching topic that's really prevalent for Aussies everywhere, all over the country at the moment.
[59:42] But it's been a lot of fun.
[59:44] And I'm really enjoying that foray.
[59:47] I love it.
[59:48] It's so different from like cricket.
[59:50] Miss World, fashion.
[59:52] Miss World, fashion.
[59:53] She's a slashy, but I love it.
[59:55] I love it.
[59:56] I think having such a wide, varied ray of interest that I get to sort of delve into, no matter what the day of the week is, is really fun.
[1:00:03] Yeah.
[1:00:03] And keeps you busy.
[1:00:04] It's not easy, this industry.
[1:00:06] No, it's not.
[1:00:06] It's not.
[1:00:07] It's not.
[1:00:07] Well, thank you so much for coming on and giving us your tell-all.
[1:00:10] It's always so nice to see you.
[1:00:12] Yeah.
[1:00:13] And good luck with the book.
[1:00:14] Thank you.
[1:00:14] Thank you so much.
[1:00:15] Best of luck with Baba and the houses and the show.
[1:00:18] And, yeah, thanks for coming on Bainish.
[1:00:19] Yes.
[1:00:19] It's been an absolute pleasure, guys.
[1:00:21] Aw.
[1:00:22] Bye for now.
[1:00:23] Bye for now.

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