# Clothes That Almost Killed You

An episode of [Vain-ish](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1824105551), 1 Sep 2026, 22 min.

Audio: https://enrichment.soundstack.com/4vjqq8/episode.flightcast.com/01M1AGXD4BKA7SWVKVBG0BX41M.mp3

Bec and Jess get into the realities of modern parenting, from sports schedules and family dinners to the questionable parenting of the ’80s and ’90s. The viral Zara “death pants” get Bec thinking about her own wardrobe disasters - including a pair of Chanel sandals that proved dangerous and a jumpsuit incident that came very close to disaster. What clothes or accessories have almost killed you? Slide into Vain-ish’s DMs with your voice notes. Find us on Instagram: @vainishpodcast Hosts: @becjudd and @jessierobertsx Producer: Liza Altarejos Audio Imager: Chris Marsh Video Producer: Justin Hill Find more great podcasts at LiSTNR

## Transcript

[0:02] a listener production.
[0:05] I'm Bec Judd.
[0:06] And I'm Jess Roberts.
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[0:50] Hi, guys.
[0:50] It's Bec Judd.
[0:51] And Jess Robertson.
[0:52] Welcome to Vanish.
[0:54] Jess.
[0:55] Yes, Bec.
[0:56] What's going on?
[0:57] Nothing much, you know, just a daily grind, you.
[1:01] Yeah.
[1:02] Yeah.
[1:02] Had my matcha, had my water, planning what I'm going to do after school with all these bloody sport pickups and drop offs and when we're going to have time to eat and who's going to eat at what time and when we need to put the shepherd's pie in the oven and someone's going to wait at 5.30 and someone's going to eat at nine o'clock.
[1:18] I don't think I've ever sat at a table with my children in the last 12 months.
[1:21] Really?
[1:21] All of you as a family?
[1:22] Yeah.
[1:22] It is all staggered because of all my kids.
[1:25] My girls do like 21 dance classes a week.
[1:28] Between them both.
[1:29] And it's just staggered.
[1:30] Like we're never all at home at once.
[1:32] And it's like 8.30 at night when we're all home together.
[1:34] It's too late.
[1:35] Val works till like 7.
[1:37] It's just, yeah.
[1:38] It's anyway.
[1:39] Life's crazy.
[1:40] Crazy.
[1:41] But speaking of like, my mum never did this.
[1:46] when I was growing up, she never like, you know, did all the dance runs that we all do or sport runs.
[1:51] Back in the 90s, like we only did like maybe one or two classes kind of thing.
[1:55] Well, you kind of did like one sport and that was it.
[1:57] That was it.
[1:57] And now you've got so many different sports and then that sport now has so many different pathways.
[2:03] Yeah.
[2:03] So you can do like, like with your dance, there's so many different types of dance and then there's like specialist and solo and group stuff and blah, blah, blah.
[2:10] Netball, there's...
[2:12] There's normal netball.
[2:13] There's club training.
[2:14] There's club playing.
[2:15] There's school netball.
[2:16] There's academies.
[2:17] There's rep.
[2:17] There's school netball.
[2:19] There's school tournaments.
[2:20] Then there's footy and all the same things.
[2:22] The rep staff, academy staff.
[2:24] Oh, my God.
[2:25] There's so much.
[2:26] They just like to make it complicated for all of us.
[2:28] Yeah, and I feel like in the 90s, everyone just stayed in their lane.
[2:31] Yeah.
[2:31] So if you're a winter sport,
[2:34] That was the winter sport.
[2:36] And so just say you play footy or netball.
[2:38] That's all it was.
[2:39] But now we're seeing the summer sports like cricket, now they're starting to do pre-season in winter.
[2:44] And it's like, guys, can you just wait until your time, wait till October?
[2:48] We're still doing footy.
[2:49] We're still in footy.
[2:49] And they're like, oh, we've got cricket trials.
[2:51] And it's like, yeah, and we've got a football grand final this weekend.
[2:54] Like this is literally the most important weekend.
[2:56] And you're putting cricket trials on for something in summer.
[2:59] Yeah.
[3:00] And all the sports do it to each other.
[3:02] This isn't just like a footy cricket thing.
[3:03] They all just cross over.
[3:05] They're trying to make you stick to one lane in a way.
[3:09] Oh, I think they just… But they're jacking up all the classes.
[3:11] Yeah, they're just overloading.
[3:12] There's business in it, right?
[3:13] Yeah.
[3:14] Like things cost money.
[3:14] Yeah.
[3:15] More uniforms, more… Oh, God.
[3:17] Swear to God, after spending the amount of money on my kids dancing, if they become strippers, God help me, I'm going to be so mad.
[3:24] They won't.
[3:25] They won't.
[3:26] But like... No, we wouldn't let... Aunty Beck wouldn't let them be strippers.
[3:28] No, no, no, we wouldn't.
[3:29] But I do.
[3:30] Like, just sit there going like...
[3:31] Sorry, if you're a stripper and you're listening, I'm sure an amazing dancer.
[3:35] They are.
[3:35] They're amazing dancers.
[3:37] But it's just like, for me, I'm going, oh, God, this is a lot of money for...
[3:40] If it goes nowhere in terms of like, they're like, they just quit dancing.
[3:44] Maybe because I've overdone it to them.
[3:45] I'm like, they're like, we're so tired.
[3:48] Like, you're going to...
[3:49] I'm a full tiger mom when it comes to dancing.
[3:50] Dance, mom.
[3:52] But anyway, so like...
[3:53] Saying that like our parents never got to do this or never did this, it made me think of like, is there things that you do at home that your parents did as a kid and then you've actually like brought it into a household?
[4:07] Like things that when you're a kid, you thought, I'm never going to do that when I'm a grown up.
[4:11] And then now you do it.
[4:12] Yeah, it could be that.
[4:14] It could be things that like, you know, how they clean the house or like
[4:18] Yeah.
[4:18] Do you know what I still do?
[4:19] Like I still, the house cleaning routine that my mum did, I still do the exact same thing.
[4:25] So we were always powder laundry detergent.
[4:30] And so I just still use powder because it's all my mum did.
[4:33] Whereas other people were like, no, no, you use a liquid and then you use a fabric softener to make your towel soft.
[4:38] And I'm like, oh, why would you do that?
[4:40] Like, I don't do it like that.
[4:41] It's unnecessary.
[4:42] But I think when you look back, we didn't add the fabric softener because it was another expense.
[4:46] So we just did the cheapest thing.
[4:47] So then in my mind, that's just all I do.
[4:50] I even use the same sponges that my mum used because she always hates, was it the WetX ones, the thin ones?
[4:55] She always gets like the fluorescent big thick sponges because they absorb better.
[4:59] So I just like those and I've been using them for 40 years because I used to help mum clean up.
[5:03] So I still use the exact same sponges.
[5:06] When I come over and I see your sponges, I have a log.
[5:08] It's like that's what my mum used to use, but I don't use them.
[5:11] I use like the microfiber.
[5:12] Microfiber, yeah.
[5:14] Yeah, I use them.
[5:14] But when I see your sponge, I always have a bit of a giggle.
[5:17] I remember that's like...
[5:19] I grew up with those sponges.
[5:20] Yeah.
[5:21] Mine is actually putting the pajamas that you wear under the pillow.
[5:26] Oh my God.
[5:27] I used to do that when I was a kid.
[5:28] Yes.
[5:28] Do you remember?
[5:29] So I know with my kids, my kids just like in the morning, take their pajamas off, put their school uniform on, out the door, and they're always on the floor.
[5:36] But I'm like...
[5:38] No, guys, I just pick it up and throw it under their pillow.
[5:40] Yeah.
[5:40] So that is the one thing that I have brought into my household.
[5:44] Yeah, that is so cute.
[5:45] I'm going to do that again.
[5:46] Tom and Darcy's usually smell like piss, so that might be hard, but Billy and Oscar maybe.
[5:52] Yeah.
[5:52] Yeah.
[5:53] And remember when you were a kid, like you'd wear the same set of pyjamas.
[5:56] Like two or three days.
[5:57] Yeah, like for most of the school week.
[6:00] Because you've showered, you're clean.
[6:01] Yeah.
[6:02] I couldn't do that now.
[6:03] I couldn't do that.
[6:04] I sweat in the middle of the night.
[6:05] All of a sudden I wake up stinky.
[6:07] I was never a stinky waker.
[6:08] Now I wake up, I'm like, oh.
[6:09] You don't wake up stinky.
[6:10] I've slept with you many times.
[6:11] You don't wake up stinky.
[6:12] Stinky for me.
[6:13] Yeah.
[6:15] I'll tell you one thing that I don't do that my mum used to do is smack dust with a wooden spoon.
[6:22] I used to get smacked with a wooden spoon all the time.
[6:23] That's why I am an angel.
[6:25] The only reason why we don't smack our kids with wooden spoons is that call child services on us.
[6:31] That tells the teacher.
[6:33] We'll be staffed.
[6:35] Look what my mum did.
[6:36] I've got this bruise.
[6:37] I remember I used to get so smacked in the caravan park.
[6:43] I remember going to the... Got smacked.
[6:45] I would have been shit-starring my brothers or whatever.
[6:47] I always was antagonizing them because I was like the only girl, two small brothers, bored.
[6:52] And you're a shit-starrer.
[6:52] I'm a shit-starrer.
[6:53] I shit-starr everyone.
[6:55] I do it to my own kids, but I remember I got so smacked.
[6:58] And it was on the back of the legs.
[6:59] It was hot.
[7:00] I was in my shorts and I go to the park.
[7:02] In the caravan park, there's like a playground.
[7:04] And this kid's like...
[7:06] what happened to you?
[7:07] And I had this full handprint.
[7:10] It was so red.
[7:12] And I obviously got attention for it.
[7:14] So I stood on top of the playground and go, look what my mum did.
[7:18] If a kid did that at school now, child services.
[7:22] I know.
[7:23] And, yeah, big trouble.
[7:25] Big trouble.
[7:26] Big trouble.
[7:27] I got smacked and I feel like I'm a pretty good kid now.
[7:30] Yeah, well, I probably got smacked like one time a year with a wooden spoon.
[7:34] Yeah.
[7:34] And I was a bloody angel.
[7:36] So I always used to talk to my kids about, oh, you know, when I grew up in the 80s and 90s, nanny kids used to have a wooden spoon because Tom and Darce are a bit tricky sometimes.
[7:45] Yeah.
[7:46] And my mum's come to live with us and I said, can you just bring the wooden spoon with you?
[7:51] You're not allowed to use it anymore.
[7:53] And mum's like, oh, gosh, I would never use it on my ground.
[7:55] No, no, like times have changed.
[7:58] Anyway, but I said, just have it there on the bench.
[8:00] And when they're being shits, just get it out and just tap it on the bench.
[8:04] So when they are being shits, she just gets out and goes, boys, tap, tap, tap.
[8:08] And they just bail.
[8:10] That is so funny.
[8:11] They clean up.
[8:12] They stop being naughty.
[8:14] It's just the threat of it because I tell the stories of how awful it used to be.
[8:18] Yeah.
[8:18] My mum used to break spoons on us.
[8:21] and then they got, the actual handle got thinner.
[8:25] Yes, yes.
[8:25] And when they were thick, they were really good.
[8:27] She couldn't break it, but then they got thinner, they would break.
[8:28] She goes, oh, stuff this.
[8:30] So she used to get the fly swat.
[8:31] Yes, the fly swat.
[8:32] The fly swat.
[8:33] My mum used to get the belt and the cane all the time at school from her teachers.
[8:38] Yes.
[8:39] Yeah.
[8:39] So I did Val.
[8:40] Val.
[8:40] Yeah.
[8:40] It's a very common thing.
[8:42] It was like in the 80s.
[8:43] They were still doing the, the teachers were still smacking.
[8:46] Like in the early 80s.
[8:47] So yeah, it's all over now.
[8:49] Yeah.
[8:49] But anyway.
[8:50] Yeah, wow.
[8:50] Trauma dumping.
[8:51] Trauma dumping.
[8:52] But as I said, I don't like being smacked as a kid.
[8:55] Like I hardly ever got smacked.
[8:57] When I did, I was very naughty.
[8:59] I don't feel like, I don't hate my mum for it.
[9:03] Like I've,
[9:03] I felt like, you know, she needed to do that at the time.
[9:05] And I learnt my lesson.
[9:06] I learnt quick, smart, and I never did it again.
[9:07] But anyway, we can't do that.
[9:10] It's a different time now, guys.
[9:11] Different time.
[9:11] And it's highly illegal.
[9:13] Do not try this at home.
[9:14] Do not try that at home.
[9:16] Okay, Jess.
[9:25] Yes, darling.
[9:26] So I've got some new shoes on.
[9:28] I was looking at those before.
[9:28] They're so cute.
[9:29] These new Chanel black sandals.
[9:33] And they're the new, I think it's creative director of Chanel, Mathieu.
[9:37] I think that's how you say it.
[9:39] It's Matthew in French.
[9:40] Mathieu.
[9:41] Blaise.
[9:42] He was at Bottega, did a great job there.
[9:44] And now he's at...
[9:45] Chanel and everything that he is releasing at Chanel.
[9:49] You can't get it.
[9:50] You can't.
[9:50] You can't get it.
[9:51] You've got to go on lists.
[9:52] You've got to know people who work there.
[9:54] They won't do anything.
[9:57] This is so unrelatable, by the way.
[9:59] I acknowledge that.
[10:00] They don't do anything.
[10:00] They don't send links for you to buy and send out, like via credit card.
[10:06] You have to go into the store and you have to get it, right?
[10:09] Yeah.
[10:09] Yeah.
[10:10] And I had these grandpa sandals.
[10:14] They've been a few years old now, but they were those kind of iconic.
[10:17] They went viral, these grandpa sandals.
[10:20] And these ones I'm wearing today are like the new take.
[10:23] They're the blazy take on the grandpa sandal.
[10:27] When she says the grandpa sandals, these are the ones that the backpackers travel in.
[10:30] Like the black chunky ones.
[10:32] Yeah, yeah.
[10:32] Back in the day, they were like a reef.
[10:34] The reef that did them, yeah.
[10:35] I remember when you bought the Chanel ones, I was like, girl, what are you doing?
[10:38] Do you know what I do?
[10:40] If I have a really strong reaction to a pair of shoes that I think are so ugly, usually I end up loving them a couple of months later.
[10:48] Yeah.
[10:48] So the same thing.
[10:50] So I had that reaction when I first saw these Chanel grandpa sandals.
[10:52] I was like, my 80-year-old Nana would literally wear those.
[10:55] Yeah.
[10:55] Yeah.
[10:56] And then I just kind of kept looking at them going, no, I think there's something about them that I really, really like.
[11:00] So I ended up getting them and I wore them all the time.
[11:03] But they were just so comfy and I just loved the styling.
[11:06] The same thing was these Loewe sneakers that had the sole kind of wraps up like a tongue across the toes.
[11:13] And the first time I saw them, I was like, oh, those sneakers are great.
[11:15] Gross.
[11:16] And then the more I saw people wearing them styled up, I was like, those sneakers are fucking cool.
[11:20] And now I'm onto my second pair of them.
[11:22] So it's usually what I think is genuinely ugly, I end up becoming obsessed with.
[11:26] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[11:27] What's that about?
[11:28] I don't know.
[11:28] Do you have that with anything where you're like, that's gross, and then it's like, no, I need to have it?
[11:31] No, I look at everyone's going, when it comes to shoes, I feel like I look at them and go, nobody wants them, so I'm going to get them.
[11:38] Yeah, right.
[11:39] I'm more like that.
[11:40] Yeah, because you've worn my grandpa Chanel sandals and I've got a chunky Celine as well.
[11:45] And you are so funny.
[11:47] You're like, I can't do it.
[11:48] I feel like I look like a dickhead.
[11:49] They just don't suit me.
[11:50] And I'm like, babe, you've just got to rewrite your narrative.
[11:52] They're fucking cool.
[11:53] Just embrace it.
[11:54] I don't think my legs are too short.
[11:56] I don't know.
[11:57] I'm too short for them.
[11:57] I don't know.
[11:58] I just look chunky.
[11:59] No, you look hot.
[12:00] Anyway, the whole point of me telling this story is this segment is about clothes or accessories that almost killed you.
[12:06] So these bloody Chanel sandals almost killed me the other day.
[12:11] So they came with no grip on the bottom of them.
[12:13] And I chucked them on and I went to walk up the stairs.
[12:16] Lucky I was walking up the stairs and not down.
[12:18] So as I walked halfway up the stairs and pushed off, the whole thing slid out behind me like I was wearing a ski and I was skiing on the snow.
[12:27] Yeah.
[12:28] And I face planted on the stairs, put my hands out.
[12:30] They're all bruises down my arms and on my knees.
[12:34] Right, because you need them re-gripped.
[12:36] So I've sent them off to get them re-gripped and they're fine now.
[12:38] Does it say in the box, like, please grip your shoes?
[12:41] It should because they are black and shiny and they are so dangerous.
[12:47] It is literally like wearing skis.
[12:49] Yeah.
[12:49] So, so, so, so dangerous.
[12:51] And it reminded me of this time, another time where...
[12:55] I was almost killed by my clothes.
[12:57] And it was when I was wearing a full-length pant jumpsuit and it was to the Bar Bambi opening and you're walking down that ACDC lane in Melbourne City and there's cobblestones and it's already steep and I had heels on.
[13:10] I was a wide-leg flare pant.
[13:12] And as I was stepping down already thinking, oh, God, I'm probably going to roll my ankle because I can't wear heels.
[13:19] I can't walk in heels very well anymore.
[13:20] Yeah.
[13:21] I stood on the inside of the pant and then it pulled down the connected halter neck over the top of my nipples.
[13:29] Like it pulled everything down and I lunged forward.
[13:32] Thank God I had my husband.
[13:34] So I grabbed onto him and then had to tuck my boobs back in.
[13:37] But that was, there was all paps down the bottom.
[13:40] Every, all media were there welcoming everyone to this new bar and I almost face planted completely.
[13:45] And showed your tics.
[13:46] Yeah.
[13:46] And they popped out.
[13:47] Lucky there was no images.
[13:48] Yeah.
[13:49] But it is actually such a thing.
[13:52] And I don't know if you've seen on Instagram, but this is currently happening to these death pants.
[13:57] They call them death pants by Zara.
[13:59] There's a famous wide leg death pant happening right now and everyone's sharing their experiences on Instagram.
[14:05] Have you seen it?
[14:06] I have seen it.
[14:07] I have seen it.
[14:07] Have they taken them off the shelf?
[14:09] Are they just like, let's just see.
[14:10] I don't know, but there's like hundreds of videos of people getting their feet stuck in these wide-legged pants, breaking arms, breaking legs, falling down stairs.
[14:18] Imagine if you actually died and at the funeral, that's what you died from.
[14:21] Yeah.
[14:22] Maybe there have been people.
[14:24] I don't want to get sued by Zara.
[14:25] Yeah.
[14:26] but I want to know, like, have you almost been killed or had an injury from clothing or accessories?
[14:32] Yeah.
[14:33] So like active wear, when my feet get cold, because they're always cold, I put my, in the flared active wear, I'll put my feet tucked into the flare.
[14:42] Ah, yeah, yeah.
[14:43] And then- Like you wrap them around.
[14:44] Wrap them around.
[14:45] So yeah, anyway, and I'll walk around the house like that.
[14:47] And then I remember walking up the stairs and nearly ate like,
[14:51] the whole staircase from slipping in it.
[14:54] Yeah, but it's obviously not the active where it was me, how I was putting them on.
[14:58] Yeah.
[14:59] Yeah, yeah.
[15:00] And I always nearly die in heels.
[15:01] I remember one time actually.
[15:04] I was about 17 and I think it was like New Year's Eve or something.
[15:09] Anyway, I was in New Year's at the time.
[15:12] and I think I was just being an idiot.
[15:14] And my boyfriend at the time was like, that's it.
[15:16] I'm dumping you and broke up with me.
[15:18] Why would anyone ever break up with you?
[15:20] I know.
[15:20] He obviously regrets it now.
[15:22] What an idiot.
[15:23] What did you do?
[15:24] I don't even remember.
[15:26] What a dickhead.
[15:26] What's his name?
[15:27] Yeah.
[15:28] I was going to say.
[15:31] Anyway, so I literally was walking.
[15:33] So he's like, he goes, I'm breaking up with you.
[15:36] That's it.
[15:37] And he cracked the socks and he's walking down this like huge hill.
[15:41] And I'm in full blown slow.
[15:42] He's like running up, like running after him.
[15:45] I fully slipped, like landed on my butt and broke my coccyx bone.
[15:50] Chasing after this idiot.
[15:53] No, he's not an idiot.
[15:53] I love him.
[15:55] But yeah, no.
[15:56] But coccyx bones are hard to recover from.
[15:59] Yeah, I remember that.
[16:00] They take a long time.
[16:01] It was like I was sitting on a donut for, I reckon, I reckon months and months and months.
[16:06] It was such a slow burn.
[16:08] It was so bad.
[16:08] Do you remember when my mum, we had some Christmas party and my mum always comes because she's young and fun and we went to Stoke House and she drank way too many tequilas and there's like a rock outside Stoke House.
[16:20] And she went to sit on it, but she fell off it.
[16:23] And she cracked her coccyx bone.
[16:26] But this was just before mum retired.
[16:27] She was driving huge mining trucks.
[16:30] So she literally sits on her ass for 12 hours at a time driving trucks at the mines.
[16:34] You can't sit.
[16:35] She went back to work and her boss was like...
[16:38] Ah, you're broken.
[16:39] Go home.
[16:39] So then she came back to Melbourne to stay with us.
[16:41] That's right.
[16:42] It's because she broke her coccyx from drinking margarita.
[16:45] She went to sit on the rock and missed it and fell on the floor.
[16:47] I wasn't even drinking.
[16:49] I just tripped because actually the soles of the things were… Too slippery.
[16:52] Slippy.
[16:53] They were just leather.
[16:54] Yes.
[16:54] I ate it.
[16:55] Yeah.
[16:56] I ate it.
[16:56] And then you know what?
[16:57] He got back with me.
[16:58] Fully gripped now.
[16:59] They're fully gripped now.
[17:00] Rubber grip.
[17:00] But they were like that before.
[17:01] Like super slidey.
[17:02] Yeah.
[17:03] He got back with you.
[17:04] Yeah.
[17:04] Because he feels sorry for you.
[17:05] Yeah, probably.
[17:06] No, no.
[17:06] I think because he realized that he was just overreacting.
[17:08] I think I wasn't giving him enough attention or something.
[17:10] Oh my God.
[17:11] Needy men.
[17:11] What an ick.
[17:12] Yeah, yeah.
[17:12] I can't deal with men like that.
[17:14] Go away.
[17:15] No, he's a nice guy.
[17:16] He's a nice guy.
[17:16] But yeah, I broke my coccyx bone over him.
[17:19] That's never been the same.
[17:28] So guys, before we go, we just wanted to slide into our DMs and we have this one to share.
[17:33] Hey, Beck and Jess, this is Sally-Anne.
[17:35] I'm just curious.
[17:36] I've done the salmon sperm facial twice now and I can't see or feel the difference.
[17:42] Have you had it done since the salmon sperm episode at all?
[17:47] Thanks.
[17:49] Ah, the salmon sperm facial.
[17:50] You've had it.
[17:51] Yeah, I've had a ton.
[17:51] Yeah.
[17:52] How many times?
[17:53] I only did it once.
[17:54] Okay.
[17:54] Because you meant to have three.
[17:55] I was always recommended that I got three sessions.
[17:59] So some biostimulators are designed to support skin quality and texture over time.
[18:04] Anyway, so I did my whole thing and... She couldn't wait.
[18:09] So I did the treatments and then had to wait.
[18:12] And my review on it is, I don't know.
[18:15] I don't know.
[18:16] I think...
[18:19] What it was helpful for for me was skin texture, so really good skin quality.
[18:27] But if you are looking at a salmon sperm facial to add volume, I would look somewhere else.
[18:35] It does not add volume because I was kind of going down that path for dark circles to cover my dark circles.
[18:43] And then in the end, I still had the dark circles
[18:47] which in hindsight was like a structural issue, not a skin issue.
[18:51] Just a shadowing.
[18:52] Yeah.
[18:52] So then I changed the structure by doing a fat transfer under my eyes where they harvested fat from my leg.
[18:59] They mix it up and they sieve it and they get it into tiny little particles and then they feathered it underneath my eyes and that changed the structure and filled kind of the hollows.
[19:08] So the dark eyes were caused by a shadow.
[19:10] So it was the fat and changing the structure that got rid of the eye bags and...
[19:14] It wasn't the salmon sperm.
[19:16] However, the skin quality as a 43 or under my eyes is quite exceptional.
[19:21] However, however, again, I also use a prescription retinol.
[19:26] I also have used other biostimulators.
[19:29] I also get lasers.
[19:32] I also use copper peptide.
[19:35] So...
[19:36] Who the hell knows what is actually working?
[19:40] Because I do it.
[19:40] I take collagen.
[19:41] I take beauty supplements.
[19:43] I do all the things.
[19:44] So when people say, hey, did that work?
[19:46] I'm like, I don't know.
[19:47] Like something's working because it looks good.
[19:50] But I can't tell you out of the 531 things I do.
[19:54] What's actually working?
[19:55] Yeah, I think it's the whole bits and pieces of the whole thing.
[19:59] Yeah.
[19:59] What about you?
[20:00] So I had it done once and I remember when you got it.
[20:03] Your recovery was really quick.
[20:04] We went and did it on a Friday.
[20:05] It's like 24 hours.
[20:06] Yeah, and we had netball the next morning, first thing up, and all the little lumps had gone.
[20:12] So I was like, okay, it's going to just, the lumps will only be there for like maybe 12 hours, 16.
[20:18] I think it was like 16 hours and your lumps were gone.
[20:19] And then even the times I got it after that was even quicker.
[20:22] Yeah, so I went and got it done and mine was like three days, four days of these lumps.
[20:26] So my lumps didn't go away as quickly as they did for you.
[20:29] So you were like, fuck this?
[20:30] Yeah, I was like, oh, no, I don't have time for this shit.
[20:32] But also...
[20:34] I felt for me that it did brighten up underneath my eyes.
[20:38] I don't actually have dark circles anyway.
[20:40] No.
[20:41] I do have some shadowing now.
[20:44] But I felt for me it brightened up that area of skin.
[20:49] I don't know if my skin quality didn't change or anything like that because I didn't do the three treatments.
[20:53] Yeah.
[20:54] But there was definitely a brightness and I feel like I still have that brightness.
[20:57] Yes.
[20:57] Yeah, yeah.
[20:57] Oh, yeah.
[20:58] You're bright, baby.
[20:59] You're shiny.
[20:59] You're shiny.
[20:59] Yeah.
[21:00] But I would feel like, no, no, clearly, if this is a treatment that you're thinking you want to have, be clear in your mind exactly what it is that you would like to treat and talk to a professional about it.
[21:12] Because you might be thinking it's going to help with your dark shadows and it might not.
[21:17] There might be a different treatment that's better suited to you.
[21:20] So go and talk to your dermatologist or your doctor.
[21:23] And yeah, for me, salmon sperm facial was skin quality and that's about it.
[21:28] Mine was brightness and that was about it.
[21:30] And yeah, my recovery was too long.
[21:32] yeah so I wasn't going to do that another two times and it's expensive it's pretty expensive I feel like there's other things I would go back to before I went and did that if you did miss our salmon sperm facial episode it was one of our earlier episodes jump on Vainish Podcast Instagram go into the highlights and you can click on the link to have a listen okay bye guys keep sending your DMs and we love hearing from you but we'll see you again next week bye for now
[22:05] Same.

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