# One Year of Vain-ish: What We’ve Learnt & Loved

An episode of [Vain-ish](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1824105551), 8 Sep 2026, 38 min.

Audio: https://enrichment.soundstack.com/4vjqq8/episode.flightcast.com/01M1ZBV8RNPJ7CT7Q162F15SAK.mp3

Vain-ish is officially ONE! Bec and Jess celebrate their first year by looking back at their most vain-ish moments, favourite episodes and biggest beauty lessons - and the treatments they’re officially de-influencing you from trying. Jess reveals what’s been on her mind lately when it comes to beauty and surgery, while the girls revisit some of their favourite Vain-ish discoveries and share the affordable beauty secrets they swear by. It’s a very Vain-ish look back at everything they’ve learnt so far - and a hint at what’s still to come. Find us on Instagram: @vainishpodcast Hosts: @becjudd and @jessierobertsx Producer: Liza Altarejos Audio Imager: Chris Marsh Video Producer: Justin Hill Find more great podcasts at LiSTNR

## Transcript

[0:02] a listener production.
[0:05] I'm Bec Judd.
[0:06] And I'm Jess Roberts.
[0:07] And we're done with the smoke and mirrors.
[0:09] Fainish shares honest stories about what it takes to look amazing because we did not wake up like this.
[0:15] And you should know the stuff that we chat about on this podcast is based on our personal experiences.
[0:21] We're sharing it for your entertainment.
[0:23] It's definitely not medical advice.
[0:26] And we'll always be clear with you when something is a paid endorsement.
[0:29] Please always chat with your qualified healthcare team before making any decisions about your health.
[0:50] Hi guys, it's Bec John.
[0:51] And Jess Roberts.
[0:52] And welcome to Vanish.
[0:53] Happy birthday to us.
[0:55] Happy birthday to us.
[0:56] Happy birthday, dear Vanish.
[0:58] Happy birthday to us.
[0:59] La la la.
[0:59] La la la.
[1:01] We turn one.
[1:01] We turn one.
[1:02] I wish we were turning actually one physically.
[1:04] Oh, I wish my skin was as good as it was when I was one.
[1:07] Oh, same.
[1:08] I wasn't a rashy child.
[1:09] No, no.
[1:11] I had tight pores.
[1:12] It was great.
[1:13] No pores.
[1:13] No pores.
[1:14] Yeah, smooth as a baby's bum.
[1:16] So good.
[1:17] Oh, imagine all the collagen and elastin we had and the human growth hormone and all the good shit.
[1:22] Oh, my God.
[1:22] It was so good.
[1:23] That's probably the last time I slept.
[1:25] So one year of veinish.
[1:27] Can you believe it's been a year?
[1:28] I can't believe it.
[1:29] I can't believe it.
[1:30] It's gone so quickly.
[1:31] One year of talking about vein shit.
[1:33] Yeah.
[1:33] One year of parking tickets every week.
[1:36] What else?
[1:37] One year of...
[1:39] One year of...
[1:40] Working with our great team.
[1:41] Yes.
[1:41] Superstars.
[1:42] Liza.
[1:42] Liza, our producer.
[1:43] Brie, Marshy, Oscar, Jazzy, Sam, Mike.
[1:48] So good.
[1:49] So good.
[1:50] And then, yeah, one year of us working together and we still are friends.
[1:56] I love it.
[1:57] You know how they say like, don't work with your best friend?
[1:59] Yeah, don't do business with your best friend.
[2:01] I know, but look at us.
[2:02] Look at us, go.
[2:03] I know, we're more in love.
[2:06] You are so funny.
[2:08] So we thought for this episode, instead of getting someone on as a guest, we thought we're just going to go through some of the things we've learned over the last year.
[2:16] Some of our favorite parts, highlights, low lights, and all the good shit.
[2:22] Yeah, all the good shit.
[2:23] Yeah, what's been your favorite part?
[2:24] I think my favorite part has been working with you.
[2:28] That's been fun and just learning because it's obviously like we've spoken about so many things and treatments we want to get done, surgeries or whatever.
[2:36] And it's just nice to kind of have a professional on and, you know, debunk it and even just getting our friends on and just seeing the side of what we...
[2:45] See?
[2:45] Yeah.
[2:46] Yeah.
[2:47] Giving them a safe space to be their true selves.
[2:50] Yeah.
[2:50] And for people out there to really get to know them.
[2:53] Do you know what's been so cool?
[2:54] Like, I love it.
[2:55] This happens weekly.
[2:56] We get stopped all around Australia, wherever we are.
[3:00] Girls, I love your podcast so much.
[3:01] Thanks for keeping it real.
[3:03] We haven't got stopped at Coachella.
[3:04] Yeah.
[3:04] We're like, yes, from one stage to another, this whole bunch of girls are like, girls, we love your podcast.
[3:09] And then they kept walking.
[3:11] We're like, what?
[3:11] What's going on?
[3:12] And do you know what?
[3:13] I've had lots of feedback.
[3:14] There's obviously people in their 30s, 40s, 50s, but there's a younger generation as well who've been coming up to us.
[3:20] They're kind of like 19, 20, and they listen to podcasts, and they're like, we found yours.
[3:24] No one's doing what you girls are doing.
[3:26] Thank you so much for educating us properly about what's out there, and what's to come, and what we can do.
[3:31] you know, look forward to as we age and we become mums and then we're in postnatal and what happens to our skin because there really isn't anyone doing it like us who does it.
[3:41] But also with our good mates, TGA in mind, because I think one of the big things about doing a podcast like this and talking about treatments and medicines and surgeries and really, you know, medical procedures is that with Australian TGA law, it has to be done in a specific way.
[4:00] Things have to be said in a certain way.
[4:02] Yeah, the questions, the people we have on.
[4:05] And we've got such a great team here that we've been able to do it the right way because there's a lot of info out there on Instagram and other podcasts and it's not actually done correctly or safely.
[4:15] I'm surprised you're not in jail.
[4:18] I'm surprised we're not sponsored by the TGA actually I know I'm waiting for my certificate I'm like I'm a TGA lawyer I'm waiting for it guys I don't understand we are the only TGA approved yes just kidding podcast hi TGA hi we love you we love you you love us we know you love us but anyway so
[4:38] I think just keep in mind that when you're wrapping your ears around what we're saying, that this is done in the best way, in the most legal way possible.
[4:47] And I think one of the big things for us is we have been able to cut through the crap.
[4:52] There's so many trends, beauty, treatment, surgeries that go viral now.
[4:57] That everyone's like, I want to try this now.
[4:59] I want to try this.
[4:59] We've been able to literally get the best experts in the country to educate our audience about it.
[5:06] And tell them what the risks are.
[5:07] Because there's a lot of bullshit out there.
[5:08] So much bullshit.
[5:09] I would like to think that we've saved a lot of people.
[5:11] Actually, we have.
[5:12] People come up and say, hey, I was going to get that.
[5:14] And then I heard this professor you had on your show talk about it.
[5:18] And I'm not going to do that anymore.
[5:19] So thank you so much.
[5:21] So...
[5:22] That's been really cool.
[5:23] And faces and bodies and skin.
[5:25] Yeah.
[5:25] And you know what the other thing is, is there's been a movement with this anyway, but I really feel like we are breaking down that stigma about talking about vanity and kind of anti-aging and just really being honest and not.
[5:41] It's not such a big deal now.
[5:42] We're not trying to gaslight people.
[5:43] And also, we're getting rid of that gotcha moment like, oh, my God, this celebrity got this surgery or got this anti-wrinkle or whatever.
[5:51] It's like, no, we just talk about it now.
[5:53] Yeah.
[5:53] So I feel like we're kind of helping people out.
[5:55] We've only actually got halfway through the list of what we've had done.
[6:00] We've got another year to talk about what we've had done.
[6:02] There's a few things we haven't said yet.
[6:05] No, no, no.
[6:06] And I want to talk about something with you because you're going to get something done.
[6:09] Yeah.
[6:10] I'm getting lots of things done.
[6:14] So, Jess, just talking about there's lots more shit to come.
[6:19] I'm so excited for you.
[6:21] Tell us what you've been up to.
[6:22] Also, I wanted to come.
[6:24] Oh, I was away.
[6:25] You were away.
[6:26] I know.
[6:27] That's right.
[6:27] I know.
[6:28] And I got like this last, it was so hard to get into this appointment and I got it like last second.
[6:32] Okay, so set the scene.
[6:33] Okay, all right.
[6:34] So we had a professor on and we were just talking about surgeries and stuff like that and there's just little things I just want to get like nipped and tucked.
[6:44] I just wanted to get the knowledge of what I need to do or, you know, maybe I'm just being crazy and all that stuff.
[6:50] So anyway, I got told to go to a particular surgeon and I did.
[6:55] And I booked in the appointment and I called Beck and I was like, oh, can you come to this appointment?
[6:59] She's like, no, I'm away.
[7:01] I'm in the Maldives.
[7:02] And I was like, okay.
[7:03] And I was like going to postpone the appointment, but I thought, no, if I don't do it now, I'm
[7:07] I'm not going to do it because my ADHD, I'm so bad at booking appointments.
[7:11] And I was like, a dopamine hit, book the appointment in.
[7:13] Yeah.
[7:14] And this guy is a, I would say like he's a face specialist.
[7:19] Yes.
[7:19] Plastic surgeon.
[7:21] And specializes in faces and was highly recommend by another very highly regarded plastic surgeon.
[7:28] Yes.
[7:28] So I went and saw him and there was things like as you get older, I was looking at like, you know, instead of getting all like these...
[7:37] Biostimulators and Botox and fillers and all that sort of stuff.
[7:41] I'm just so over these constant appointments.
[7:45] Lifting and tightening devices that don't work.
[7:47] Yeah, yeah.
[7:48] And hurt.
[7:48] Yes, and hurt.
[7:49] And you need six and they cost so much.
[7:51] And if you just add up all the cost of all that other stuff, it actually ends up more expensive than like a surgical option.
[7:57] Exactly.
[7:57] If that option is right for you.
[7:59] Exactly.
[7:59] And then you kind of don't know if it's right or not.
[8:01] Because it's kind of, I've had some lasers done and it's like not been right for my
[8:04] Skin.
[8:04] Skin.
[8:05] You're the only one who's had an IPL laser three times and hasn't shifted a single bit of pigment.
[8:09] Nothing.
[8:10] Nothing.
[8:11] That's your tech juju, though.
[8:12] I know.
[8:13] You know how you have tech and device juju where nothing works?
[8:16] Even the bloody IPL doesn't work on you.
[8:18] I know.
[8:19] Nothing.
[8:19] Dropbox, nah.
[8:20] Google Share Drive, nah.
[8:21] Nah.
[8:22] Logins, nah.
[8:22] Nah.
[8:22] Microsoft, nah.
[8:23] IPL, nah.
[8:24] Nah.
[8:24] Nah.
[8:25] Anything that's next.
[8:26] So does, nah.
[8:27] Yeah, anything that needs to be plugged into a wall and charged does not work for me.
[8:31] So anyway, so I went and saw a surgeon recently and asked a few questions.
[8:36] And so things I was like, you know, ponytail facelift.
[8:39] What is that?
[8:40] So ponytail facelift, my understanding of that is that it's not a deep, plain facelift.
[8:45] It's more of... A repositioning.
[8:47] Yeah, repositioning of muscles and not so much the skin.
[8:51] It's two incisions, either side in your hairline.
[8:55] Mm-hmm.
[8:55] So as you get older, gravity falls.
[8:58] So my cheeks are falling a little bit.
[8:59] So obviously the smile lines.
[9:02] Nasolabial folds.
[9:03] Yes, they're getting a little bit deeper.
[9:04] So I thought, I'd love to know what a ponytail facelift is and is it possible for me to have it because I'm, you know, 35.
[9:10] Yeah, and there's the rumours for Anne Hathaway and who else, Lindsay Lohan.
[9:15] They're all the rumours you hear about celebs because they're scarless.
[9:19] And they're like, well, they've had something done.
[9:21] And they call it ponytail because you can wear a ponytail afterwards or because it gives you the look of a really tight ponytail.
[9:27] Ponytail or both.
[9:28] Yes.
[9:28] So you and I constantly have our hair up in ponytails.
[9:31] I love it.
[9:31] Love it because it pulls everything.
[9:33] Yeah, it pulls everything back.
[9:34] And I thought...
[9:35] Why do that every single time?
[9:37] Probably going to get alopecia from pulling my hair back so tight.
[9:40] What is the cost?
[9:41] And let's just look into it.
[9:42] So I went and saw a plastic surgeon and just asked him, like, what's a ponytail facelift?
[9:47] Am I a good candidate for it?
[9:49] And my understanding, it's more about repositioning the actual muscles, giving that ponytail look.
[9:57] There's no skin taken away either.
[9:59] Mm-hmm.
[10:00] A deep plain usually is.
[10:01] They'll take a bit of skin.
[10:02] I'm too young for that.
[10:03] So where's the incision go?
[10:05] So the incision's just kind of where your temples are, a little bit lower, but in your hairline.
[10:09] And they're just little two incisions on either side of your hair.
[10:13] And then they just go in and they just pull all the ligaments and all... Everything back.
[10:17] Everything back.
[10:18] It doesn't change the shape of your face.
[10:20] It doesn't change...
[10:22] How you look, it just freshens you.
[10:24] Yeah.
[10:24] So it would pull your eyes and your cheeks.
[10:27] It wouldn't really pull my eyes.
[10:28] It's more of like the cheeks.
[10:30] Mid-face.
[10:31] Mid-face pulled back.
[10:32] Yeah.
[10:33] Just there.
[10:34] But you can't have it pulled back too much because if you have it pulled back too much, you get this kind of lump.
[10:39] Not lump.
[10:39] You get kind of like a...
[10:41] Almost like a fold.
[10:42] Yeah.
[10:42] Yeah, yeah.
[10:43] I know what you mean.
[10:43] Yeah, a fold underneath between your eye and your cheek.
[10:45] So anyway, had that.
[10:46] And then I looked at an upper bleph.
[10:49] Which I've had.
[10:50] Yes.
[10:50] Yeah.
[10:51] And a fat grafting.
[10:52] Which I've had.
[10:54] Tick, tick, tick, tick.
[10:56] So a fat grafting.
[10:57] So it's not from one part of the eye to the end of the eye, from start to finish.
[11:01] It's just more half.
[11:02] Yeah.
[11:03] Yeah, the incision.
[11:04] The incision.
[11:04] Half incision.
[11:05] Half incision from the middle of your eye, a bit of skin removed, and then also a bit of fat grafting, which is actually put underneath your eyebrow.
[11:13] Because I didn't realize as you get older, the hollowness of where your eye sockets actually sinks.
[11:20] Sinks.
[11:20] Yes.
[11:21] So fat grafting.
[11:22] So when some people get their eyes done, they kind of look crazy.
[11:25] Well, they look too round.
[11:26] Rounded.
[11:27] Yeah.
[11:28] And so to keep the shape, you get this little bit of fat grafting, which is on the inner upper corner.
[11:32] Yes.
[11:32] Yes.
[11:32] Yes.
[11:33] So I just had a look at that.
[11:34] So I've just had an appointment, guys, as a consult.
[11:38] And just to see if I'm a candidate.
[11:40] Backcrafting, upper bleph, and a ponytail lift.
[11:42] Yes.
[11:42] All three things.
[11:43] All three things.
[11:44] Are you going to do it?
[11:45] Well, yeah, if I get paid.
[11:46] Yes!
[11:46] Oh, sorry.
[11:47] Sorry, TJ, I didn't say yes.
[11:48] I meant, okay, you should consider that and talk to a professional.
[11:53] Haven't had it done yet, guys.
[11:54] I'll let you know when I do.
[11:56] So what's the next phase?
[11:57] So you've had your initial consult.
[11:59] Then there's some legalities before you're allowed to book, right?
[12:03] So tell people, because I don't think people actually understand what the new rules are around booking a plastic surgery procedure.
[12:10] Yep.
[12:11] So you go in for your consult, you speak to your surgeon, you say what you want to have done.
[12:15] They will push back and be like, you know, because they're not going to over-treat.
[12:19] If you don't need it, you're not going to have it.
[12:21] So I was like, can I get this done, this done?
[12:22] He's like, no, no, no, no, no.
[12:23] I was like, oh, okay.
[12:25] So yeah, so you have your first initial consult.
[12:27] Then you've got to go back in for a second appointment.
[12:30] And it's more of an appointment for, you know, psychological appointment.
[12:35] Like a psychological assessment for body dysmorphia, isn't it?
[12:38] Yeah, which I feel like is really important.
[12:39] Really important.
[12:40] And when we had Dr. Toni Pickles in, she does a lot of work in this space and works with a lot of plastic surgeons and helps to do those psychological assessments because –
[12:49] There are so many people with BDD and I think it's really important, but they have to do it by law now, right?
[12:54] Yeah, they have to do it by law.
[12:55] So you have to go in for this psychological appointment to see if you, you know.
[12:59] Have body dysmorphia.
[13:00] Yeah, exactly.
[13:01] And that's just, you know, which I feel like is a really good thing.
[13:03] And then after they kind of tick the box and say that, yeah, no, you're okay to have the surgery done, then you book into your next appointment, which I think is the surgery.
[13:12] I haven't gotten that far yet.
[13:13] Yeah.
[13:13] So anyway, we'll see.
[13:14] So we'll see.
[13:15] I would like to have the surgery done.
[13:17] It's just when and time and... Recovery.
[13:21] Recovery.
[13:22] I've got to look at all that.
[13:23] I've obviously got to talk to my husband, see if he's going to pay for it.
[13:27] He probably won't.
[13:28] Obviously talk to the children about it.
[13:30] As I said, I'm not... Well, we can't talk about cost.
[13:33] No.
[13:34] Was it really, really, really expensive?
[13:37] Was it on par with what you've seen quoted overseas or was it below your expectations?
[13:43] No, it was kind of what I thought it was going to be.
[13:46] But I think what we've kind of worked out in the...
[13:50] plastic surgery and surgeons around Australia, it's kind of like they're all different prices.
[13:55] Postcode.
[13:56] Yeah.
[13:57] It depends on the postcode.
[13:58] Postcode, but then I think it also depends on like… Double Bay, Bellevue Hill, Turac, Peppermint Grove.
[14:03] Yeah, but it's also like, you know, I think it's just like how long you've been in the industry for, like how long you've been practicing.
[14:09] Like it was interesting to get the price because there's been so many different prices.
[14:14] But it was kind of what I thought it was going to be.
[14:16] Yeah.
[14:17] So, yeah, we'll see, guys.
[14:18] I might get the surgery.
[14:19] I might not get the surgery.
[14:20] But if I do, I can't keep my own secrets.
[14:22] I'll let you know.
[14:23] Can I come in and film it?
[14:25] Yeah.
[14:26] You're picking me up.
[14:27] Can we do a live, veiny-ish podcast from theatre?
[14:31] Yes.
[14:32] Can we wear a GoPro?
[14:34] Do they do a two-for-one?
[14:35] Yeah, I did ask that.
[14:37] I did.
[14:37] I go, can you buy one, get one free?
[14:39] And he just looked at me like I was crazy.
[14:40] I was like, you know, you know.
[14:43] No, but anyway, that's like probably my most vainish thing I've done is just seeking advice.
[14:49] I'm not saying I'm getting it done.
[14:52] And I said, I'm not changing my facial features.
[14:53] I just feel like a little freshen up.
[14:55] Yeah.
[14:55] And I know you, like this has bothered you for a while now because you haven't bloody shut up about it for the last six months.
[15:00] Yeah, I know.
[15:01] Yeah.
[15:01] I know.
[15:01] Every time I see.
[15:02] I turned 35 and everything's like,
[15:03] They say 35, everything just starts to sag.
[15:06] Yeah, I notice my knees.
[15:07] Oh, the knees.
[15:08] The knees.
[15:09] And the weenus.
[15:10] The weenus?
[15:10] The knees, the neenus and the weenus.
[15:12] Yes, I was just like, everything's going.
[15:15] And I was the same.
[15:16] So my most vainish moment in the last 12 months since doing this podcast was having my upper bleph and all the fat transfer around my eyes.
[15:25] And yeah, it bloody bothered me.
[15:27] And every time I looked in the mirror or photos, I was always like, ugh.
[15:31] and I got it tweaked and that doesn't bother me.
[15:34] Yes.
[15:35] And the thing is, I think when people go, oh, but then, you know, you're going to want the next thing and the next thing, it's like, I actually don't.
[15:40] No, you don't.
[15:41] Like, I got it done.
[15:43] For me personally, it really helped my confidence around my eyes and I don't, like, my under-eye hollows
[15:50] The big holes that always made me look tired are gone now.
[15:52] And I'm happy for now.
[15:54] Like I'm not there now going, now I need this, now I need this.
[15:57] It's like, no, I'm good.
[15:57] Yeah, I agree.
[15:59] I agree.
[15:59] And I think it's like it's just freshening.
[16:03] And as I said, I think the eye thing is definitely annoying me.
[16:06] Like I can feel the heaviness.
[16:08] Mm-hmm.
[16:09] I can feel that.
[16:10] And the ponytail facelift, I was just interested and intrigued on what it is because I don't know anyone that's had it done personally.
[16:19] Yes.
[16:19] But I'm getting like a lot in Korea and stuff, they do a lot of that treatment.
[16:23] And I thought, you know what?
[16:24] Let's seek advice in Australia before I go to Korea.
[16:27] And I'm like, you know, do me.
[16:28] Smart.
[16:28] let's just go get it done because it's $2.
[16:30] Yes, because with your ADHD, you spend money on weird shit and you just don't want to do it on a whim because you need a dopamine hit on a day out in Korea.
[16:38] Yeah.
[16:39] Just walk into a surgery and get it done.
[16:40] And you and I are constantly talking.
[16:42] We love the whole ponytail look.
[16:44] So I thought, why not seek it and see what it's about, what's the recovery, how much it's going to cost, the risks, and yeah, so that's my most vainish moment.
[16:54] Great.
[16:54] You had the surgery, mine's booking the appointment.
[17:04] Let's talk favorite episodes.
[17:07] All right.
[17:08] My favorite episode would be, well, knowledge-wise, Andrew Greensmith about fat grafting.
[17:15] Yeah.
[17:15] So Andrew Greensmith is the plastic surgeon who did my fat grafting and my upper bleph.
[17:20] And he came on and explained that he was great.
[17:23] He was really good.
[17:24] And I think it's because, like, I didn't even know what fat grafting was until you were talking about getting it done.
[17:30] And I know a lot of people have gone,
[17:32] I didn't know that was even a thing.
[17:33] Everyone just thought it was just filler.
[17:35] Yeah.
[17:36] So that was, I really enjoyed having Andrew Greensmith and like debunking and talking about what fat grafting is and how it's done.
[17:43] That was really good.
[17:44] I loved Effie.
[17:47] Effie Katz.
[17:48] Effie Katz.
[17:49] Loved her.
[17:49] What a little dynamite.
[17:51] She's a dynamite.
[17:52] So much fun.
[17:53] And then obviously Nadia, one of our closest.
[17:55] Yeah.
[17:56] Amazing.
[17:56] Do you know what I loved about?
[17:58] Effie, she just came on and just went hard.
[18:02] Like she spoke about everything.
[18:05] There was no gatekeeping.
[18:06] She was so, so open about everything she'd had done and why she had it done and her postnatal struggles.
[18:13] And for her to give us that and to open up to us because she's never spoken about that before was such a privilege for us.
[18:20] But then afterwards, she even said to us like, it was just so good to get it all off.
[18:23] my chest and it's out in the open now and there's no kind of gotcha moments or what's Effie had done.
[18:28] It's out there now and good on her for being so honest and they're her choices to make and she owned it and I just felt proud of her but also what a privilege that she shared that with us.
[18:37] I know, I know.
[18:38] And I think the other thing with Effie as well, it's like,
[18:41] That's the girl that we see.
[18:42] Yeah.
[18:43] The fun girl.
[18:43] So funny and so fun.
[18:45] So funny and so fun.
[18:46] I think to have, you know, our listeners to know a little bit inside her world and how grounded and humble and fun she is.
[18:53] Yeah.
[18:53] Yeah.
[18:54] Yeah.
[18:54] So I love.
[18:55] And hilarious.
[18:56] And hilarious.
[18:56] And also just a massive shout out, like one of our best, most listened to episodes was Nadia Bartel and she was too, but she was our first celebrity tell-all.
[19:06] And she really set the tone for how this show runs its tell-alls and she created this really kind of safe space for future celebs.
[19:17] She was so open and honest about her journey over the last few years and also a procedure she'd had done.
[19:23] She said this.
[19:24] With my nose, I think it was something that like it was crooked.
[19:27] I was always conscious about it.
[19:29] I grew up just not even wanting to wear my hair up because, you know, I was really self-conscious.
[19:34] But like looking back now, would I definitely do it?
[19:37] You know what I mean?
[19:37] It's like you do these things because you're so just, you think it's a bigger issue than it is, but it's just in your head.
[19:43] Yeah.
[19:44] But that was something that I did that was a very, very vain issue.
[19:47] And it was just so open.
[19:48] She'd never shared that with anyone before.
[19:50] It had been actually quite traumatic at the time.
[19:52] I remember the day she had it done and how there was a paparazzo waiting at the hospital to photograph her.
[19:58] It was already on the Daily Mail that same night with her nose bandaged up.
[20:02] Some awful person had given the paps a tip off that she'd been having that surgery that day.
[20:09] And for her to come on and talk about that with us on our second episode, it was one of our most listened to of all time.
[20:16] And just, you know, really set the tone for our tellers going forward.
[20:20] And we've had so many amazing celebs come on and share their stories with us.
[20:24] Yeah, and they didn't have to.
[20:25] And I feel like, yeah, because she went into what surgery she's had done, it did make people feel comfortable coming in and talking about their things.
[20:33] Yeah.
[20:33] Yeah.
[20:34] She was so good.
[20:35] So thank you, Nadia.
[20:36] We're forever grateful.
[20:37] Forever grateful.
[20:39] What else has been your favorite?
[20:40] A really big episode.
[20:42] And I remember when we were recording, it was like, whoa, there was so much info was when Professor Mark Ashton came on and spoke about tummy tucks.
[20:50] Yeah.
[20:51] Tummy tucks.
[20:52] And that's such a big surgery, but also so many women who have had children I've spoken to that have like,
[20:58] you know, at one point looked in on getting it done or have had it done.
[21:02] So it was really good to have him on and just explain all the different types and just the recovery because a lot of people didn't realize the recovery.
[21:11] I know people that have had the surgery and have not realized that it was so intense.
[21:16] Yeah.
[21:16] Like think about having a cesarean.
[21:19] But then having, oh gosh, especially the full wraparound and the hernia and the lipo and the hip to hip scar or the wraparound scar.
[21:29] Like it is so full on.
[21:30] We know someone who literally has a 12 month recovery from it.
[21:34] Like it is so full on.
[21:36] It's really interesting because I was talking about it with a group of mums and there were eight of us.
[21:46] And five of the group had had some form of stomach reconstruction post having children.
[21:55] Five out of eight.
[21:56] And no one had ever spoken about it.
[21:58] And we were all friends.
[21:59] Yeah, yeah.
[22:00] All in this group with these, our kids had brought us together.
[22:03] I'd had like a hernia repair.
[22:06] And then another one...
[22:08] had the exact same thing.
[22:10] And then another one had just missed.
[22:12] We hadn't seen her for a while because she'd actually had the hip-to-hip.
[22:15] And then someone else was like, oh, yeah, I had that after my kids.
[22:18] And I was like, whoa.
[22:19] And even belly button revision as well.
[22:21] There are so many belly buttons.
[22:22] Some people just go in and get the belly buttons out because there's a hernia there.
[22:25] So they just get the belly button put in.
[22:27] Like there's so many things that you can do, which Professor Mark Ashton told us about.
[22:32] Yeah.
[22:32] I just didn't realise after kids how, the options that we have.
[22:37] I think in the olden days, you just kind of got on with it.
[22:40] But now we have procedures where you can actually bring your muscles back together and fix your hernias.
[22:48] Yeah, but it's also not for cosmetic reasons.
[22:50] Like I know people that have had hernias redone and refixed for exercise purposes, but also for their back.
[22:56] That was me.
[22:56] Yeah.
[22:57] Yeah.
[22:57] I couldn't do a sit up.
[22:58] I could not sit up.
[22:59] I can't do a sit up now.
[23:00] I've still got a three finger separation and it's literally, so my bottom's really tight.
[23:05] My top's really tight, but where my belly button is, it's almost like a triangle.
[23:09] Triangle, yeah.
[23:10] Not even a triangle.
[23:10] It's like a,
[23:11] And your back does get sore.
[23:12] And my back is so sore.
[23:13] I do Pilates when you can't bloody sit up.
[23:15] I can't just sit up.
[23:16] Unless Noel holds my feet down and then I can sit up.
[23:19] Sit up, yeah.
[23:19] Because I'm so numb there even though the muscles have been joined back together.
[23:22] I can't activate them because there's no feeling.
[23:24] There's no feeling.
[23:25] Thank you, Tom and Darcy.
[23:28] So, yeah, he was really good to have on.
[23:30] Yeah, and I think because people go tummy tuck, oh, it's a vanity thing.
[23:33] It's all because your tummy's messed up and, oh, you want your skin fixed and you want your life on it.
[23:38] And it's like, no, there's so many.
[23:39] And yes, there's that.
[23:40] And good on you if you want to do that.
[23:42] Awesome.
[23:42] You do you if it makes you feel more confident.
[23:44] I'm all for it.
[23:45] There's so many different versions as well for so many different reasons.
[23:49] And there are also reasons like what you were just talking about where there is
[23:54] a medical reason with a hernia that you can actually talk to your GP and have a referral and you can have Medicare get involved with certain things as well.
[24:03] So if you are in a lot of pain, talk to your doctor because you might be able to access that funding and...
[24:10] Yeah.
[24:10] Yeah.
[24:11] Hey, do you know what I love?
[24:12] Some of my favorite eps were the de-influencing ones.
[24:14] Yeah, that were good.
[24:15] Yeah.
[24:15] And Jess, you know when you were using the tanning nasal spray?
[24:19] Mm-hmm.
[24:19] So you'd spray it up your nose and it was meant to tan your skin when you went out in the sun?
[24:24] Oh, I wanted to ask you.
[24:25] Mm-hmm.
[24:26] So that's like a melanotan thing, right?
[24:29] Mm-hmm.
[24:29] Everyone says that that makes you really horny.
[24:31] Yeah.
[24:31] Did it make you horny?
[24:32] I'm always horny, so I don't know.
[24:34] No.
[24:35] Actually, I was really horny.
[24:37] You were really horny.
[24:38] I was really horny.
[24:39] Yeah.
[24:40] I'm still horny.
[24:41] That's so funny.
[24:44] So the melanotan stimulates your melanocytes, and so you can either have it in drops or you can spray it up your nose.
[24:52] We had Dr. Ryan DeCruz, cosmetic dermatologist, come on, and he explained to us that when you stimulate your melanocytes, it increases your risk of developing a skin cancer.
[25:01] Yeah.
[25:02] so straight away we were like, wow, we're never doing that again.
[25:05] Yeah.
[25:06] And I loved that our audience also came up to us after and said, I was going to buy that, and you literally de-influenced me from buying it.
[25:12] And, guys, I only did it just to see what it did so I could talk about it on the podcast.
[25:16] I actually put myself as a scientist.
[25:18] Yeah, you were our crash test dummy, so I was put our guinea pig.
[25:21] Yeah, our guinea pig.
[25:22] I was just, yeah, anyway.
[25:23] And you weren't on it for long enough to do any damage.
[25:25] No, I wasn't.
[25:26] So that was a really good one.
[25:28] And then I tried the eye color change thing.
[25:32] Oh, the eye color change.
[25:33] Oh, God, I tried.
[25:34] Oh, my God, and you steamed your fanny.
[25:36] I steamed my fanny.
[25:37] And then you thought you were pregnant.
[25:38] Yes.
[25:39] Yes, that's right.
[25:41] Oh, my God.
[25:42] There were so many things to my fanny.
[25:44] And I stuck the salmon jizz in my eyeballs.
[25:46] Yes, and then I did that too.
[25:47] Yeah.
[25:48] And I got the surgery.
[25:50] What else did I do?
[25:50] Do you know what else I did?
[25:51] Yeah.
[25:52] Yeah.
[25:52] My surgery I did was eye vision correction.
[25:54] You did the eye vision correction.
[25:56] How are your eyes?
[25:57] What's the follow-up?
[25:57] Oh, my God.
[25:58] Seriously, I didn't actually... See, I'm not an anxious person.
[26:02] I didn't realize I had a bit of anxiety and I think it's because of my vision.
[26:06] So, you know, when I would wake up, I couldn't see properly, all of that.
[26:09] So that's really helped me personally with my nerves, my nervous system.
[26:14] I, as I said, didn't realize I was an anxious person until I had 20-20 vision and realized all those nerves and anxious was... Because you couldn't see.
[26:23] I couldn't see.
[26:23] I didn't realize I was an anxious person either until I was driving with you.
[26:27] Yeah, yeah.
[26:27] At night.
[26:28] But I'm a really... Then I was like, she's in a Tesla.
[26:31] They drive themselves.
[26:32] They won't crash.
[26:33] And now I'm the most amazing.
[26:35] Actually, my husband actually has always said to me, I'm a really good driver.
[26:37] You're a good driver now that you can see.
[26:39] Yeah.
[26:39] Yes.
[26:40] Oh, gosh.
[26:40] Who knows what we'll do in the next 12 months.
[26:42] Oh, God.
[26:43] You might do the surgery you spoke about.
[26:45] Yeah.
[26:45] Yeah.
[26:45] Yeah.
[26:46] I've run out of surgeries to do.
[26:50] But she'll do a tallow over the next 12 months.
[26:53] Biostimulator for the knees, I think, is next on my list.
[26:57] Yeah.
[26:57] Yeah.
[26:58] I've been wanting to try that.
[26:59] Yeah.
[26:59] It's so expensive.
[27:00] I would love something for cellulite.
[27:02] I reckon I'm getting – skinny people get cellulite too, guys.
[27:05] Yeah, I know.
[27:05] Just saying.
[27:06] Everyone's like, oh, skinny people, they don't get this and that.
[27:08] No, no.
[27:09] You can be skinny with skinny people who have cellulite.
[27:10] I've got it on my ass.
[27:11] I've got it on my legs.
[27:12] I would love a cellular treatment.
[27:15] Yes.
[27:15] When we've actually reached out, because a lot of people, a lot of you guys write to us and say, can you get someone on for cellular?
[27:22] When we reach out to these doctors, they're like, no, nothing works.
[27:25] We're not going to talk about anything or promote it because there's nothing that reliably works with good evidence.
[27:30] There's new things that come out and people try them and then they fall away because the evidence isn't there.
[27:35] Yeah.
[27:35] And the results aren't there.
[27:37] So I would love to do something for that.
[27:39] Yeah, some more biostimulators.
[27:42] And what else?
[27:44] Oh, you know what I want to try?
[27:45] I want to try stem cell.
[27:47] Stem cells, I was meant to get it in Korea, but then I got COVID.
[27:50] Yeah, so I would love to do the stem cell.
[27:52] So many things to look forward to, Jess.
[27:54] So many.
[27:57] Okay, Bec, what have you learnt this whole year?
[28:01] I think the most I learned was actually about peptides.
[28:04] Like medicine and wellness and treatments is moving at such a crazy speed.
[28:10] And all everyone's talking about is peptides, peptides, peptides.
[28:13] And I saw on the news the other night, they said in five years, there will literally be a peptide for everything.
[28:19] peptide for gray hair, a peptide for weight loss, a peptide for bigger lips, a peptide for bigger tits, a peptide for ADHD, a peptide for this, a peptide for that.
[28:28] We had Dr. Jason Chan come on and discuss peptides and it was mind blowing.
[28:32] And for me, that's kind of been the biggest learning from Vanish in terms of all the guests we've had on is how crazy that is.
[28:41] And they're not TGA approved.
[28:44] And
[28:44] there's still so much we don't know about them.
[28:46] They come with a huge disclaimer if you're going to embark on taking them.
[28:50] There's risks that will reveal themselves in future years.
[28:54] But this is, to me, every second person I talk to is investigating a peptide or on a peptide.
[29:00] And I think just having a doctor come on who works in that space and is at the forefront of that medicine in Australia was really valuable and blew my mind.
[29:09] And that's a space that will keep evolving.
[29:11] Yeah.
[29:12] What have you learned?
[29:13] Yeah.
[29:13] I reckon the same thing, to be honest.
[29:15] Yeah.
[29:15] I think because I was like going down that way of looking into it.
[29:19] What is it about being ad targeted?
[29:22] Yeah, the algorithms got me on the peptides.
[29:24] Yeah, got me.
[29:25] And it's like, so to have him on was really good.
[29:29] Yeah.
[29:29] Really good to kind of say like what...
[29:31] is for what and, you know, how people are getting it and why you shouldn't be getting it and what you need to do to be able to have it.
[29:39] So, yeah, that was really, really informative.
[29:41] I think that's so fresh in my brain at the moment.
[29:43] That's what I'm kind of being ad-targeted.
[29:46] Heptides, watch this space.
[29:55] Okay, so for everyone that's listening, that obviously we've spoken about some very expensive treatments.
[30:00] Oh, gosh, plastic surgery.
[30:02] Peptides.
[30:04] Like lasers.
[30:05] Yeah.
[30:06] Biostimulators are like $1,500.
[30:08] Oh, what did I?
[30:09] I spent a fortune on one that I had that Dr. Sean came in and spoke about.
[30:13] It's got five amino acids with a blend.
[30:14] It's a new one.
[30:15] Oh, yes, I had that too.
[30:16] I had a fortune on that.
[30:18] Yes, yes.
[30:19] And like money's tight.
[30:21] It is.
[30:21] No one's got any money to spend on this shit, so we're going to give you some cheaper tips.
[30:25] Exactly.
[30:25] So I feel like my cheap things that I've learned and takeaway and that I actually do use is a good peptide serum.
[30:33] I was going to say that as well.
[30:34] Were you?
[30:34] Yeah.
[30:35] If you are thinking about peptides, we had Dr. Cara McDonald, dermatologist, come on and explain all about them.
[30:43] We also did with Dr. Ryan DeCruz.
[30:46] A peptide serum.
[30:47] Yes.
[30:48] Peptides are signal, amino acids that signal your cells to do things like lay down collagen and elastin.
[30:53] Yes.
[30:54] I think that's been a really big thing that I've got in my skincare routine that's affordable.
[30:59] Yep.
[30:59] So look for things like copper peptide.
[31:00] When you think of peptide serum, but especially copper peptide, there's one, I can never say it.
[31:05] It's like...
[31:05] argiline.
[31:06] So that peptide's thought to interact with signaling pathways involved in muscle contraction.
[31:11] Although the research in this area is still like a little bit evolving, but it's the anti-wrinkle in a bottle.
[31:15] You know when you hear people say, oh, it's anti-wrinkle in a bottle.
[31:18] They're talking about argiline and it's actually spelled A-R-G-I-R-E-L-I-N-E.
[31:23] If you see it on the back of a bottle, that's what it is.
[31:26] Dr. Ryan DeCruz had this to say about it.
[31:28] So it rose to fame because of its neurotransmitter-like properties, right?
[31:32] So it's working like botulinum toxin.
[31:35] They're probably one of the most famous ones for helping to do a few other things in the skin other than just the repair enzymes.
[31:42] So Dr. Ryan, they say that some of these peptides are just like an anti-wrinkle injection in a bottle.
[31:50] How does it stack up?
[31:51] Let's be real here.
[31:53] You're never going to get anti-wrinkle effects from any serum, full stop.
[31:59] It may be trying its best, but it is not a fair fight, right?
[32:03] So anything that you inject in the skin, particularly a neurotransmitter that inhibits muscular contraction, will work far better than any topical.
[32:11] However, for fine lines, early lines, complementary treatment, absolutely go ahead with it.
[32:17] But just don't think you're going to get the same for those really deep set wrinkles.
[32:21] Okay.
[32:21] So what percent are we talking there?
[32:22] Like 10%, 20%, 30%?
[32:25] Look, for fine lines, wrinkles, it depends on the formulation.
[32:29] You can get anywhere from 10% to 30% improvement, sure.
[32:32] Not for those deep, what we call dynamic wrinkles that have been there for 5, 10, 15 years.
[32:36] Yeah.
[32:37] Okay.
[32:38] That's amazing.
[32:39] That's a topical peptide over the counter.
[32:44] If you can't afford to get an anti-wrinkle.
[32:45] If you can't, you know, I feel like that's like probably my biggest, biggest thing.
[32:50] I think I've learned this year as well that's, you know, guys, if you're not wearing sunscreen on your face,
[32:57] The biggest anti-ager.
[32:58] Biggest anti-ager.
[32:59] We've seen it.
[33:00] Like there's some people that are so, so hot, so beautiful, so amazing looking when they're younger and in their 20s.
[33:11] And then you see them 10 years later and the ones who are out in the sun every day, like literally look 100.
[33:16] Like they go from looking so young and fresh to so old for their years and it's always the ones who work outside all day.
[33:23] Yeah.
[33:23] I agree.
[33:24] So sunblock is a big thing.
[33:25] I've been really like big on that.
[33:27] I used to just wear it when I used to go out in the sun.
[33:29] I literally have it in my skincare routine when even if I'm at home and I'm like just for the windows, I'm like there is a sunblock on my face.
[33:38] Sunglasses, hats all the time.
[33:39] You and I are big on sunnies and hats.
[33:41] Hats, yeah.
[33:42] We cover up.
[33:43] For me, a vitamin A, a really good vitamin A, and it is like a bit of a chemical kind of
[33:49] peel.
[33:50] My favorite one is, and I work for them, they're called the skincare company.
[33:53] They have an exfoliant serum.
[33:55] If you put too much on it, it's literally like giving yourself full face, bloody fraxel.
[33:59] Tread lightly.
[34:00] There's a lot of kind of exfoliant serums with an AHA and a BHA in it and also a vitamin A.
[34:07] So if you don't quite have the money for a peel or a laser, look at these more highly targeted vitamin A's and AHA, BHA serums.
[34:15] Very, very good.
[34:16] Dr. Ryan DeCruz had this to say about it.
[34:19] Probably the skincare hero ingredient that has the most research is vitamin A derivatives.
[34:23] Yep, so retinoids or retinols.
[34:25] Absolute hero is the prescription strength retinoid, so we call that tretinoin.
[34:29] Yes.
[34:29] But there are a few precursors that exist in skincare that you can start with, and that would be a starting point.
[34:34] Yeah, because retinol, you can react to that, right?
[34:38] Like it is very shedding.
[34:39] I remember when I first started using it.
[34:41] I'm too scared to use it.
[34:44] You kind of got to stick with it and be consistent.
[34:45] Yes, I am not consistent.
[34:46] I start shredding and I'm done.
[34:48] Yeah, you almost got to break through that and then the good stuff comes and then be consistent.
[34:51] So you don't then go back to having to start all over again.
[34:55] Yeah, well, that's what always happens to me.
[34:56] I've just given up on it.
[34:58] Lastly, I wanted to shout out, I know we get so many questions about this, is eyelashes.
[35:04] So two things.
[35:05] I use an eyelash growth serum.
[35:07] I get it from Amazon, but you can just Google.
[35:10] It's one with peptides in it.
[35:12] I can't even remember what the brand's called, but it's designed to support the appearance of fuller looking lashes.
[35:16] Oh, yeah.
[35:17] I had this conversation with Beck 10 years ago.
[35:18] She goes, you've got really good eyelashes.
[35:20] And I look at Beck and go, you've got good everything.
[35:22] But yeah, I have got better eyelashes than you.
[35:23] But now, now she's got better eyelashes than me.
[35:28] So anyway, yes.
[35:29] Yeah.
[35:29] But do you know what?
[35:30] I would say like tread lightly with it.
[35:32] Because there's a lot of that you can't use.
[35:34] Yeah, and some get, they do, I notice when I'm using it every day, it does make my eyelid, the skin on my eyelid like a reddy purpley colour.
[35:42] It does change the colour of the roots where your lash line goes.
[35:46] It does fade when you stop using it.
[35:48] So just don't use too much of it.
[35:50] I don't know, I've got very sensitive eyes after my Thailand experience in the pool where I ended up hospitalised with an eye infection after... Mmm.
[35:57] pretending to be a mermaid in a whiskey bottle.
[35:59] So I just can't put too many serums and stuff on my eyelashes.
[36:02] The other thing is pre-glued fake eyelashes.
[36:06] Literally go onto Amazon.
[36:07] Google pre-glued stick-on eyelashes and you'll get all the different types and they come in little clusters.
[36:13] They're so easy to put on.
[36:14] Yeah.
[36:14] They've been an absolute game changer.
[36:16] You put them under the lash.
[36:17] Not over the lash.
[36:18] You clamp them on.
[36:19] They're undetectable.
[36:20] They're so amazing.
[36:21] Anyone can put them on.
[36:23] Like literally anyone.
[36:24] You don't have to be a makeup artist.
[36:26] And they've been an absolute game changer.
[36:28] So that's everything I've learned.
[36:29] Yeah.
[36:30] I'm just trying to think if I've learned anything else.
[36:32] Tomato sauce in blonde hair.
[36:34] What's that?
[36:35] Being blonde, my daughter's hair and my hair goes green in the pool.
[36:39] Even if someone's like, oh, it's a mineral salt pool.
[36:41] No, our hair can still go green.
[36:44] Also, just copper piping in our water system.
[36:48] Even there is chlorine in our water that we drink.
[36:51] Our hair gets so dry.
[36:53] It picks up a lot of brassiness.
[36:54] It picks up a lot of green.
[36:56] So I've used tomato sauce, which is an old hack that my mum used to do when we were in the 90s as kids.
[37:02] I still do that.
[37:03] So the red takes out the green?
[37:05] The red takes out the green, which is it lifts it.
[37:07] But the smell, I hate the smell of tomatoes.
[37:09] It stinks, but you know what?
[37:10] You know, you look hot after.
[37:12] So that's definitely another thing.
[37:13] And another thing that I do is I've got filters for my taps, for my shower, for my hair and skin.
[37:20] Yeah, nice.
[37:21] Yes.
[37:21] Nice, nice.
[37:22] And you get them on Amazon really, really cheap.
[37:24] You can.
[37:25] Yeah.
[37:25] Yeah.
[37:25] I've got a home filtration system on my water.
[37:28] I can't afford that.
[37:28] It's the same thing.
[37:29] It's the same thing.
[37:29] I can't afford that, but...
[37:30] But you can get these filters on Amazon as well or Timu.
[37:35] You are like the fucking face of Timu.
[37:37] I know, I am.
[37:38] I know, I am.
[37:39] But you can get them and you throw them onto your shower and it's really good for your hair and skin.
[37:43] So good.
[37:43] Well, there you go.
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