# Your AI May Be Smarter Than You. Can You Still Control It?

An episode of [AI Security, AI Cloud Ops & Infrastructure | ClearTech Loop](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1823980617), 28 Oct 2026, 15 min.

Audio: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2248577/episodes/20030951-your-ai-may-be-smarter-than-you-can-you-still-control-it.mp3

What happens when AI becomes capable of making decisions its creators can't fully anticipate or control? AI agents are gaining autonomy, accessing enterprise systems, managing credentials, and making decisions at speeds traditional security frameworks weren't designed to handle. But as these systems become more intelligent, are organizations becoming better at governing them? In this episode of ClearTech Loop, Jo Peterson sits down with Sandy Dunn, CISO at Knowtion Health and a core member of the OWASP Top 10 for LLM Applications project, to explore what AI governance really means when intelligence, autonomy, and accountability collide. Sandy compares governing advanced AI to raising a child who's smarter than you. It's a provocative analogy that raises an important question: How do you establish boundaries for a system that may be capable of finding solutions you never anticipated? Their conversation moves beyond traditional cybersecurity controls to examine AI agent identity, least privilege, unpredictable behavior, business risk, and the growing responsibility of security leaders to enable innovation without surrendering oversight. In This Episode • Why traditional identity and access management approaches fall short for autonomous AI agents • How unique agent identities improve accountability and traceability • Why increasingly intelligent AI systems don't necessarily demonstrate good judgment • What happens when agents pursue objectives in unexpected or unauthorized ways • How CISOs should approach organizations already behind on AI governance • Why security controls must support business innovation rather than obstruct it • How executive education and experimentation influence successful AI adoption • Why understanding AI model costs, performance, and business value matters Worth Reading + Watching • AI Threat Map v2.1: Navigating AI Threats & Tradeoffs for AI Adoption Sandy Dunn examines how organizations can navigate AI security risks while supporting innovation. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/ai-threat-map-v21-navigating-threats-tradeoffs-adoption-sandy-dunn-zprgc • OWASP Top 10 for LLM Applications Explore vulnerabilities and security risks associated with large language model applications, including excessive agency and prompt injection. https://genai.owasp.org/llm-top-10/ • ClearTech Loop with Rob Tiffany: AI Agent Identity Continue the conversation about agent identities, authorization, and why traditional identity management may not be sufficient for autonomous systems. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Lr4OVcBjEo Stay in the Loop Subscribe to Jo Peterson's LinkedIn newsletter for more conversations about AI security, cyber risk, and enterprise technology: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/7346174860760416256/ Subscribe to ClearTech Loop on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCR7xPyjXPgQJKMBvnjoGBQw ClearTech Loop is where AI, cloud, and security intersect. New conversations with the leaders shaping what's next in enterprise technology. See you in the Loop. 🎧 Listen: In Buzzsprout Player ▶ Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClearTechResearch/videos 📰 Subscribe to the Newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/7346174860760416256/

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