# Jennifer Kavanagh: Why the U.S. Should Pull Back From the First Island Chain

An episode of [Glenn Diesen - Greater Eurasia Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1822142909), 18 Oct 2026, 49 min.

Audio: https://anchor.fm/s/fa789f4c/podcast/play/127684885/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-9-18%2F434450728-44100-2-42c7c590750eb.mp3

Jennifer Kavanagh is a Senior Fellow and Director of Military Analysis at Defense Priorities and an Adjunct Professor at Georgetown University’s Center for Security Studies. Kavanagh discusses her policy paper advocating a US withdrawal from the First Island Chain to avoid war with China, and explains why it sparked such a strong reaction.Follow Prof. Glenn Diesen: Substack: https://glenndiesen.substack.com/ X/Twitter: https://x.com/Glenn_DiesenPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/glenndiesen Support the research by Prof. Glenn Diesen: PayPal: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/glenndiesenBuy me a Coffee: buymeacoffee.com/gdiesengGo Fund Me: https://gofund.me/09ea012fBuy Diesen merchandise: https://diesen-shop.fourthwall.com/en-nokBooks by Prof. Glenn Diesen: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B09FPQ4MDL

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