# Defence spending, national security and AUKUS

An episode of [Why Can't They Just...](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1818980418), 14 Sep 2025, 40 min.

Audio: https://anchor.fm/s/105531ab4/podcast/play/108300751/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-8-14%2F1fc1ba34-1c71-7de6-5813-22e723d5aee9.mp3

In this episode, Callum and Janaline discuss why Australia might need to increase defence spending, what are the real strategic threats to Australia and will we actually get any subs under AUKUS? Here's the transcript. Please leave a comment, particularly if you have your own "Why can't they just..." question, or email us at whycanttheyjust@gmail.com. We'd love to hear from you. Please also feel free to rate and review us as it does help people to find us. Music:"Insurrection" Written by Pierre Chrétien Performed by the Souljazz Orchestra Courtesy of Do Right Music Inc.

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