# True Crime Cases So Chilling They Defy Logic | 259

An episode of [Lazy Chill True Crime](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1815534472), 19 Jun 2026, 50 min.

Audio: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/APO6954239105.mp3

Don't forget to hit follow button, rate the podcast and turn on the notification bell :) Also leave a comment saying whether you're watching or listening, or where you're watching from. Episode 259 of the true crime podcast btw. 👇 Youtube links: Lazy Chill History Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@LazyChillHistory Lazy Chill Zone Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@LazyChillZone 👇 Support My Work: 🛍️ Merch: https://lazy-chill-zone-shop.fourthwall.com ❤️ Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lazychillzone 👇Social Media Links: https://www.instagram.com/lazychillzone/ (lots of pics of my dog. dog pic central.) 👇 Podcast links: ⚡History Video Podcast on Spotify⚡: https://open.spotify.com/show/7km5pLWpYWEj1mrPpEfRUr?si=0FHYnZf-Qs2FY1GyLevfig ⚡True Crime Podcast on Spotify⚡: https://open.spotify.com/show/0klIz08pAr7wR4we0Ia4sk?si=68qZxCeAQkysXzMZrHE0Iw 🍏 True Crime Podcast on Apple 🍎: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lazy-chill-true-crime/id1815534472 mysterious disappearance, missing person, unsolved mystery, true crime, cold case, vanished without a trace, unexplained disappearance, missing persons case, real mystery, disappearance story, unsolved case, chilling mystery, disturbing disappearance, missing woman, missing man, last seen alive, strange disappearance, creepy true crime, baffling case, missing person investigation, real life mystery, unsolved disappearance, eerie mystery, mysterious case, true crime podcast, unsolved mystery, solved cases, true crime cases, disturbing cases, calm crime tales, true crime for sleep, sleep podcast, relaxing podcast, podcast for sleep, chilling true crime, calm true crime tales, relaxing true crime, calm true crime, true crime relaxation, true crime for relaxation, relaxing crime stories

## Transcript

[0:00] On a quiet Sunday afternoon in the summer of 2016, a young
[0:04] woman stepped out of her mother's home in Princeton, MA.
[0:08] She had planned to go for a walk along the wooded roads she'd
[0:11] known since childhood, but she never came back.
[0:15] Vanessa Marcotte, a 27 year old Google account manager living in
[0:19] New York City, was slain that day.
[0:23] What followed was an 8 month investigation, a painstaking
[0:27] manhunt, and a legal resolution that brought some measure of
[0:31] justice. Vanessa Marcotte was born on
[0:36] June 17th, 1989 in Leominster, MA, the only child of John and
[0:42] Rosanna Marcotte. She grew up in the Worcester
[0:46] County area, attended the Bancroft School in Worcester,
[0:49] and graduated with honors from Boston University in 2011.
[0:55] After college, Marcotte built her career in digital marketing,
[0:59] working at Wordstream, a Boston based online advertising
[1:03] startup, and then at Vistaprint. In January 2015, she landed what
[1:10] her family described as her dream job, an account manager
[1:14] position at Google's New York City office.
[1:18] Colleagues remembered her as warm and enthusiastic, known for
[1:22] her volunteer work and love of Boston sports.
[1:25] Outside the office, Marcotte devoted time to charitable
[1:28] causes, volunteering at food banks, tutoring high school
[1:32] students and supporting Boston Children's Hospital.
[1:38] Though she'd made her home in New York, Marcotte maintained
[1:41] deep ties to Massachusetts. She regularly visited her mother
[1:45] and aunt in Princeton, a quiet, small rural town of fewer than
[1:49] 4000 residents in Worcester County.
[1:52] It was a place that felt safe, where people walked the wooded
[1:56] roads without a second thought. That sense of security would be
[2:01] shattered on August 7th, 2016. On that Sunday afternoon,
[2:08] Marcotte left her mother's house on Brook Station Road.
[2:11] Sometime around one that afternoon, she was planning to
[2:14] walk before catching a commuter bus back to New York later that
[2:17] evening. According to witnesses, she
[2:20] stopped at the Mountainside Market on Hubbardston Road for a
[2:23] drink and was last seen alive walking while talking on her
[2:27] cell phone. Around 1:15, another witness
[2:30] reported seeing a vehicle following Marcotte on the road,
[2:34] turning around and then following her again.
[2:37] When several hours passed and Marcotte hadn't returned, her
[2:41] family called the police. Authorities launched an
[2:45] immediate search at approximately 8:15 that evening.
[2:49] Search teams with dogs discovered her body in a heavily
[2:52] wooded area off the road less than half a mile from her
[2:56] mother's house. Officials immediately classified
[3:00] the case as a slaying. Marcotte's body was unclothed,
[3:04] and she had burns to her face, hands and feet.
[3:10] An autopsy determined that the cause of death was
[3:12] strangulation. She had also suffered blunt
[3:15] force trauma to her head, including a fractured nose, as
[3:19] well as crushing injuries to her throat.
[3:22] Her clothing, cell phone and earbuds were missing and were
[3:26] never recovered, with the authorities believing that these
[3:29] had been taken as some sort of sick trophy by the attacker.
[3:34] Authorities determined that Marcotte had fought back
[3:36] fiercely. Cell phone data showed her phone
[3:39] was either shut off or disabled at 2:11 in the afternoon.
[3:44] Investigators believe that was likely close to the exact time
[3:47] of her death. In the days following the
[3:51] attack, investigators opened a 24 hour tip line and were
[3:55] flooded with more than 1300 tips from the public.
[3:59] Early on, authorities stated that Marcotte's attacker was a
[4:04] male who would likely have had scratches, cuts, and bruises on
[4:08] his face and arms. They didn't believe Marcotte
[4:11] knew the perpetrator, suspecting instead a completely random
[4:15] attack. By November 2016, investigators
[4:20] released a crucial detail. They were seeking information
[4:24] about a dark colored SUV seen parked on the road at the time
[4:28] and location of the killing. In February 2017, the Worcester
[4:34] County District Attorney revealed that DNA recovered from
[4:37] Marcotte's hands had been analyzed and a suspect profile
[4:41] created. Based on the evidence and
[4:44] witness descriptions, authorities identified the
[4:47] suspect as a Hispanic male in his late 20s to early 30s.
[4:52] He was believed to be of average height with an athletic build
[4:55] and short hair or a shaved head who either owned or had access
[4:59] to a dark colored SUV. The critical break came through
[5:04] an extremely lucky break combined with a very observant
[5:07] police officer. A trooper with the Massachusetts
[5:10] State Police Detective Unit spotted a driver in Worcester
[5:14] who matched the suspects description.
[5:17] He was also driving a dark SUV consistent with the vehicle that
[5:22] witnesses from the day of the attack had uniformly reported.
[5:28] The trooper wrote the license plate number on his hand and
[5:31] followed up the next day by visiting the driver's home.
[5:35] That driver was Angelo Colon Ortiz, a 31 year old Worcester
[5:40] man Cologne Ortiz provided ADNA sample which matched the DNA
[5:45] found on Marcotte's hands. He was arrested on April 14th,
[5:50] 2017 and arraigned 4 days later at Leominster District Court
[5:55] with bail set at $10 million. Angelo Colon Ortiz had been born
[6:01] in Puerto Rico and moved to Worcester only about a year
[6:04] before the attack. He had no prior criminal record,
[6:09] was married with three children, and worked as a delivery driver
[6:13] for a third party contractor that provided trucking services
[6:17] for FedEx. That job made him familiar with
[6:20] Princeton and the surrounding towns.
[6:23] Cell phone records confirmed he was in the area on the afternoon
[6:27] Vanessa was killed. Despite having no criminal
[6:31] history, accounts from people who knew Colin Ortiz painted a
[6:35] troubling picture. Neighbors in Worcester described
[6:38] him as someone who frequently made vulgar and inappropriate
[6:41] comments to people in the neighborhood.
[6:44] He also worked under the assumption that Spanish is a
[6:47] very rare language that no one else speaks.
[6:50] Colleagues reported that he would make disturbing comments
[6:53] in Spanish to them on the job, and that they would report him
[6:57] and pretend they weren't proficient in the language.
[7:00] Despite this, he kept working, and it seems like he was widely
[7:04] known to be something of a ticking time bomb.
[7:09] Angelo's defense lawyers must have realized that there was no
[7:12] chance of success on a substantive, factual basis going
[7:15] to trial, so they threw their Hail Mary pass.
[7:19] Colon Ortiz's defense team challenged the DNA evidence,
[7:23] arguing that a language barrier had prevented him from
[7:26] understanding his rights when he provided the sample.
[7:30] His attorneys claim police didn't send a trooper with
[7:33] adequate Spanish skills and failed to properly translate a
[7:36] consent form. In January 2022, a judge denied
[7:42] the motion to suppress the genetic evidence, allowing the
[7:45] case to proceed. Notably, Angelo was proficient
[7:49] enough to maintain employment in an English language setting,
[7:53] which shows you how little chance of success they had on
[7:55] this. On October 26th, 2022, more than
[8:01] six years after Vanessa Marcotte's death, Angelo
[8:05] appeared in Worcester Superior Court and pleaded guilty to all
[8:08] charges. The plea deal had been requested
[8:11] by the Marcotte family, who wanted to spare themselves the
[8:15] ordeal of a trial. Under the terms of the plea
[8:18] deal, he won't be eligible for parole until he's 81 years old.
[8:27] In the fall of 1987, Boise, ID was still, in many ways, a small
[8:32] town. Violent crime wasn't something
[8:35] most residents worried about, and the community along Vista
[8:39] Ave. knew its neighbors well. Among the most familiar faces in
[8:43] the Vista Village Shopping Center was 65 year old Joyce
[8:47] Casper, owner of Casper's Vista Hallmark and Gift Shop.
[8:52] She'd been a fixture in the area for years, running what had
[8:55] originally been a drug store with a soda fountain where local
[8:58] kids would stop in after school. Joyce was also well known for
[9:02] her tireless work ethic. She routinely stayed late at her
[9:06] shop, tidying and organizing after the doors closed at 9 each
[9:10] evening. It was a habit that made her
[9:13] predictable and tragically, deeply vulnerable to predators.
[9:19] In the weeks leading up to October 13th, 1987, something
[9:23] disturbing happened. Joyce reported to the Boise
[9:27] Police Department that a young man, whom she described as being
[9:30] in his early 20s, had attempted to assault her in the parking
[9:34] lot behind her store. Joyce didn't go down easily.
[9:39] She slapped the man across the face and he backed off just
[9:42] enough for her to get into her vehicle and drive away.
[9:46] Police investigated but couldn't identify the attacker, and the
[9:50] incident remained unresolved. Then came the early morning
[9:55] hours of October 13th. A passerby discovered Joyce's
[9:59] body inside her car near the intersection of Day Drive and
[10:03] Robert St. This was just a few 100 feet
[10:06] from her shop and close to a set of railroad tracks.
[10:10] Local news reported that the attack left the community
[10:13] stunned and without a suspect in custody.
[10:16] Fear spread extremely quickly. What followed was one of the
[10:21] most painstaking investigations in Boise Police Department
[10:24] history. Detectives from the Violent
[10:27] Crimes Unit and Special Victims Unit threw themselves into the
[10:30] case, ultimately investigating and eliminating approximately
[10:34] 150 suspects. They traveled to other states,
[10:39] worked overtime and lost sleep, but despite their efforts, there
[10:44] was little movement in the case. DNA testing was in its infancy
[10:49] in the late 1980s and wasn't yet viable for forensic purposes.
[10:53] Complicating matters even further.
[10:56] Further, there were no security cameras, no witnesses, and
[11:01] little physical evidence beyond biological material collected at
[11:04] the scene. Given the forensic technology at
[11:08] the time, the case ended up going cold, though the lead
[11:12] detective continued to advocate for new forensic techniques to
[11:15] be applied even after retiring. The case was formally
[11:21] reactivated in 2005, and in 2017, two new detectives began
[11:26] working on it full time. Using new forensic technology,
[11:31] they sent DNA collected from the original crime scene to a
[11:34] private forensics lab that could generate a physical profile from
[11:38] genetic material. The results indicated the
[11:41] suspect was a male of Latino descent, possibly of Puerto
[11:45] Rican or Colombian origin, with brown or Hazel eyes and dark
[11:50] hair. A computer generated composite
[11:53] was released to the public in October 2017, but it didn't
[11:57] produce leads. In 2019, the police again turned
[12:02] to a new technology, retaining A genetic genealogy company to
[12:07] attempt to identify a suspect. By the spring of 2023, the
[12:13] investigation had narrowed to a specific family in the Treasure
[12:16] Valley area. Detectives flew to Southern
[12:19] California to obtain DNA samples from the two sons of a man named
[12:24] Frank Rodriguez. Those samples were analyzed by
[12:27] the Idaho State Police forensic lab, and they confirmed a
[12:31] genetic match to the crime scene evidence.
[12:36] Frank Rodriguez had moved to Idaho from Massachusetts as a
[12:39] teenager and was living just a few blocks from Joyce's shop at
[12:42] the time of the attack. He would have been around 17
[12:46] years old in October 1987, loosely fitting the age range
[12:50] and physical description Joyce had given police after the
[12:53] earlier assault attempt. Investigators came to believe
[12:57] that Rodriguez was likely the same man who'd tried to attack
[13:00] Joyce weeks before her death. They believed that it may have
[13:04] been an act of retaliation after she fought him off in the
[13:08] previous attack. Police described Frank as
[13:12] severely mentally ill with what they characterized as a rage
[13:15] component. His Idaho criminal record
[13:18] included a 1995 aggravated battery conviction, amongst
[13:22] other charges. Unfortunately, though, Rodriguez
[13:28] would never face justice for the horrific crime against Joyce.
[13:32] In 2007, for reasons which aren't fully understood,
[13:36] Rodriguez decided to pull the curtains on his life, taking his
[13:40] secrets with him to the grave. Investigators also noted that
[13:44] given the nature of the crime, they found it difficult to
[13:48] believe this was Rodriguez's only serious offense.
[13:52] Law enforcement agencies across the country began reviewing
[13:55] unsolved cases for possible connections, but as of yet,
[14:00] there have been no other cases identified.
[14:04] For the Casper family, they'd finally reached the end of a
[14:08] story they'd been waiting decades to finish, but it was
[14:11] bittersweet since the man responsible would never be held
[14:14] accountable. Still, as one of her surviving
[14:17] children put it, knowing for certain what happened brought a
[14:20] sense of relief that had eluded them for most of their adult
[14:24] lives. In the early morning hours of
[14:28] October 1st, 1974, a 21 year old man named Daniel Walker pulled
[14:34] his Volkswagen van off Interstate 40, roughly 60 miles
[14:38] West of Needles, CA. He was crossing the Mojave
[14:42] Desert and he'd picked up a hitchhiker earlier that evening
[14:45] near Cajon Pass. The young passenger, 18 year old
[14:50] Ken Robinson, needed a ride to Texas, and Daniel had apparently
[14:55] altered his route out of California to help him get
[14:57] there. It was a simple act of
[15:00] generosity from a man who, by all accounts, was known for
[15:04] exactly that kind of thing. The newspaper headlines that
[15:08] followed his death would note that he was always doing favors
[15:12] for people, and this particular favor would be his last.
[15:17] But if you're expecting this to be the usual story of a Good
[15:20] Samaritan meeting a dark fate at the hands of a hitchhiker, think
[15:24] again. Daniel parked the van along the
[15:28] shoulder of the Interstate so they could both get some sleep.
[15:32] Robinson settled into the back, shielded by Daniel's belongings
[15:36] and gear. At approximately 6:00 in the
[15:39] morning, Daniel was jolted awake by a stranger.
[15:43] Before he could make sense of what was happening, the intruder
[15:46] shot him multiple times. According to the account later
[15:50] pieced together by investigators, Daniel begged for
[15:53] his life during the attack. Robinson, hidden among the cargo
[15:58] in the rear of the van, wasn't noticed by the attacker.
[16:03] He managed to escape after the gunman fled, eventually flagging
[16:07] down a passing motorist and calling for help.
[16:10] First responders transported Daniel to a local hospital, but
[16:14] his injuries were too severe. He died that day, just two weeks
[16:18] shy of his 22nd birthday. The San Bernardino County
[16:23] Sheriff's Department opened an investigation immediately.
[16:27] Robinson provided a description of the suspect and his vehicle,
[16:31] but investigators couldn't develop any meaningful leads.
[16:34] While suspicion was clearly initially on Robinson, he was
[16:38] very quickly cleared of any wrongdoing in the matter.
[16:43] When the police began to investigate, they quickly found
[16:46] that the crime scene didn't fit neatly into a common motive.
[16:50] Daniel's van, keys and money had been ripped from his pants
[16:53] pocket, yet other valuables were left behind.
[16:57] This was a detail that suggested either panic or something more
[17:01] erratic than a straightforward robbery.
[17:04] Despite the eyewitness account and physical evidence, the case
[17:08] went cold. It would stay that way for
[17:11] nearly half a century. Daniel's slaying devastated his
[17:16] family. His younger brother, Doug, was
[17:18] just 15 years old at the time. Doug later recalled that there
[17:22] had been tension between Daniel and their father, which had led
[17:26] to Daniel going out West. Their father, according to Doug,
[17:31] never truly recovered and blamed himself for the chain reaction
[17:35] that would ultimately lead to Daniel's death.
[17:40] For decades, the Walker family adhered to a painful tradition
[17:44] of trying to forget and move on. But despite this, Doug wouldn't
[17:48] give up. In 2010, Doug traveled to the
[17:52] Inland Empire in Southern California and retraced his
[17:55] brother's final steps. Cold case detectives pulled
[17:59] Daniel's file at that time, but they couldn't make any headway.
[18:05] It wasn't until much later that Doug channeled his decades of
[18:08] grief and research into a book titled Daniel, My Brother
[18:13] Mystery in the Mojave. Interestingly, the book was
[18:17] co-authored with Ken Robinson, the hitchhiker who'd survived
[18:21] that night. The two men had stayed in
[18:23] contact over the years and bonded over the shared desire to
[18:27] see justice done for Daniel, a fact that I personally find
[18:32] heartwarming in an otherwise very dark case.
[18:35] The book was published in October 2023, nearly 49 years to
[18:40] the month after Daniel's death. And then, just like that,
[18:44] something happened. On November 15th, 2023, just
[18:50] weeks after Doug's book was published, the San Bernardino
[18:54] County Sheriff's Department Cold Case Team reopened the
[18:57] investigation. Detectives obtained new
[18:59] information and identified a suspect, Thomas Creech, a 73
[19:05] year old serial predator who is currently incarcerated in Idaho.
[19:09] Thomas Creech was a name that sent shock waves through the
[19:12] Walker family and the true crime world, since he's potentially
[19:16] one of the most prolific predators in history.
[19:20] Born in Dayton, OH in 1950, Creech grew up in an unstable
[19:25] household marked by domestic conflict that ended in his
[19:28] parents divorce. He ran away from home as a
[19:32] teenager and became a drifter, and by the time he was in his
[19:35] mid 20s, he'd compiled A staggering record of violence
[19:39] across multiple states. He'd been convicted of five
[19:42] slayings in Idaho, Oregon and California.
[19:46] Beyond those convictions, authorities believed strong
[19:49] evidence linked him to at least six additional victims.
[19:53] At various points, Creech himself had claimed
[19:56] responsibility for as many as 42 killings, though he later
[20:00] revised that number downward to 26.
[20:04] Unfortunately, as with many of these predators, they seem to
[20:08] think a higher victim count is some sort of badge of honor.
[20:12] Many of his confessions included outlandish claims involving
[20:16] occult rituals and contracts for a motorcycle gang.
[20:20] This made it difficult for investigators to separate fact
[20:23] from fabrication. Though they do believe there's
[20:26] at least a kernel of truth to his additional confessions.
[20:31] What connected Creech to Daniel Walker were what the San
[20:34] Bernardino County Sheriff's Department described as details
[20:38] from statements Creech had made to law enforcement.
[20:42] Working in collaboration with the ADA County District
[20:45] Attorney's Office in Idaho, cold case detectives were able to
[20:49] corroborate those details against the known facts of the
[20:52] case. The timing of the identification
[20:55] was notable because it came just days before an Idaho parole
[20:59] board was set to consider whether to commute Creech's
[21:02] death sentence to life in prison.
[21:05] Ada County prosecutors characterized the Walker case as
[21:08] further proof of Creech's unrepentant brutality.
[21:13] Creech's defense team pushed back hard on the allegations.
[21:17] His public defender called the case against him extraordinarily
[21:21] thin, but this wasn't at a trial.
[21:24] Rather, this was a clemency hearing in an attempt to stop
[21:28] his execution. The attorney argued that it
[21:31] relied entirely on unspecified details that Creech had
[21:35] supposedly provided long ago, and that we're only now being
[21:39] used against him. The defense pointed out that law
[21:42] enforcement had tried to link Creech to Daniel's slaying as
[21:45] far back as 1975, and they'd never been able to make the
[21:50] connection stick. The clemency hearing itself
[21:53] became a spectacle. The Idaho Commission of Pardons
[21:57] and Parole deadlocked 3 to 3 on whether to grant Creech relief.
[22:02] Under the rules of the state, this meant that his death
[22:04] sentence stood. Governor Brad Little declined to
[22:08] intervene, and the warrant was signed, with Creech's execution
[22:12] scheduled for February 28th, 2024.
[22:17] But on that day, in a remarkable turn, the execution failed
[22:23] despite the best efforts of those involved.
[22:26] Medical staff spent nearly an hour attempting to establish an
[22:30] intravenous line, trying 8 different locations on Creech's
[22:34] arms, hands and legs. But his veins collapsed each
[22:39] time the execution was called off, and Creech was returned to
[22:43] his cell. A second date was set for
[22:46] November 13th, 2024, but a federal judge granted a stay
[22:52] just one week before allowing time for Creech's legal
[22:55] challenges to proceed. His attorneys argued that a
[22:59] second attempt would constitute cruel and unusual punishment,
[23:03] and that the botched first attempt had left him with post
[23:06] traumatic stress disorder. Idaho's prison system
[23:11] subsequently suspended all executions while it retrofitted
[23:15] its chamber to accommodate alternative methods, including a
[23:18] firing squad. As of late 2025, Creech remains
[23:24] on death row at the Idaho Maximum Security Institution,
[23:28] his legal battles ongoing, his fate unresolved.
[23:33] Daniel Walker's story is, at its core, about the terrible
[23:37] randomness of violence and the unimaginable burden it leaves
[23:41] behind. The identification of Thomas
[23:43] Creech as the suspected perpetrator brought a measure of
[23:48] resolution, but it didn't bring closure in any neat or
[23:52] satisfying sense. Creech has never been formally
[23:57] charged with Daniel's slaying, and given his existing sentence
[24:01] and the legal complexities surrounding his case, it's
[24:04] unclear whether he ever will be. Further, some have noted that
[24:08] the publicly known evidence to connect him to the slaying is
[24:11] rather flimsy. Given that there will likely
[24:14] never be a trial in this matter, it's unclear if we will ever
[24:18] know why the authorities are so certain that Creech is the
[24:21] perpetrator. Personally, it's very hard for
[24:25] me to consider this case fully solved based on the evidence we
[24:28] currently have. That said, it looks like we've
[24:31] reached the end of the line in terms of the official
[24:33] investigation, and this conclusion, though not fully
[24:37] certain, will likely be the resolution to the case.
[24:41] Given how prolific Creech's crimes were, I do also have to
[24:45] question if he himself even fully remembers if he took
[24:48] Daniel's life. On a warm June day in 1976, a
[24:54] trio of fishermen on the Oswego River made a grisly catch.
[24:59] Instead of fish, they found a human body drifting toward the
[25:02] surface, bound to heavy cinder blocks beneath the murky water.
[25:07] It was a chilling scene, a young man, clearly the victim of foul
[25:12] play, deliberately weighted down as if someone intended for him
[25:16] never to be discovered. The clues that would be
[25:19] discovered would hint that this John Doe may have been mixed up
[25:23] in the chilling world of organized crime.
[25:28] The body was discovered in mid June 1976 in the town of
[25:31] Lysander, New York, just north of an area called Three Rivers.
[25:36] Local authorities determined the remains were a white male,
[25:40] approximately 25 to 35 years old, about 5 feet 10 inches
[25:45] tall, and £130. He had been in the water for an
[25:49] estimated 2 weeks, enough time that decomposition had set in
[25:54] and made immediate identification impossible.
[25:57] A length of rope was used to tie the body to two cinder blocks,
[26:01] anchoring it to the riverbed. Those blocks were traced to a
[26:06] nearby company, suggesting the perpetrator source them locally.
[26:11] The victim's head was wrapped in part of a light colored shirt, a
[26:14] grim sign of what likely befell him in his last moments.
[26:18] In other words, someone had suffocated him, likely using
[26:23] that very cloth, then tried to hide the crime by sinking his
[26:27] body in the river. Once the body was recovered,
[26:31] investigators noted distinctive physical features of the victim.
[26:35] He was a slender man with medium length brown hair and a
[26:38] prominent angular nose. He had a thin mustache or
[26:42] stubble of dark brown facial hair, as if he hadn't shaved for
[26:46] a few days. There were no tattoos, scars, or
[26:51] obvious identifying marks on the body.
[26:55] Despite the lack of identification, the victim's
[26:58] clothing and personal items provided intriguing clues.
[27:02] He was dressed in layered clothes, a beige cashmere V-neck
[27:06] sweater over a dark blue ribbed turtleneck.
[27:10] He wore blue jeans with a wide brown belt and brown leather
[27:12] designer boots. He also wore a particularly fine
[27:16] pair of underwear, which was only available in a few
[27:19] department stores in New York State.
[27:23] Other personal effects compounded the mystery.
[27:27] He wore a gold neck chain with two interesting charms. 1 was an
[27:31] Italian mono cornuto, A horned hand symbol designed to ward off
[27:35] the evil eye, and the other was a tiny horn shaped cornichello,
[27:40] again worn for luck. The Italian charms hinted that
[27:44] the victim had a familial connection to Italy.
[27:49] In an effort to identify the victim, investigators collected
[27:53] as much forensic information as possible.
[27:56] Fingerprints were unfortunately not available due to the
[27:58] condition of the remains, but dental records were obtained.
[28:03] They showed the man had extensive dental work, including
[28:07] many fillings and crowns, indicating he had seen a dentist
[28:11] regularly in his life. At a much later date, his DNA
[28:15] profile was also secured and entered into databases, though
[28:19] no match has ever been found to a missing person or family
[28:22] member as of yet. With the trail turning cold, law
[28:28] enforcement sought the public's help.
[28:30] A disturbing forensic facial reconstruction was commissioned
[28:33] to put a face to the victim's remains, using the skull to
[28:37] approximate his features. The clay reconstruction depicted
[28:41] a Caucasian male with a long, thin nose and medium length
[28:45] brown hair, consistent with the medical examiner's findings.
[28:50] Hoping someone might recognize this face, investigators
[28:53] circulated images of the reconstruction in newspapers and
[28:56] law enforcement bulletins. Unsurprisingly, this depiction,
[29:02] which bears more in common with one of those disturbing Austrian
[29:05] or Bavarian Alpine demon masks, didn't solve this case.
[29:12] With this case being unsolved for half a century.
[29:16] Despite such distinctive identifying features, a number
[29:20] of theories have proliferated about this case.
[29:23] One prevalent idea centers on the method of disposal.
[29:27] Tying a body to cinder blocks and dumping it in a river is a
[29:31] method reminiscent of an organized crime hit.
[29:36] And this isn't just online sleuths claiming this either,
[29:40] but rather this has been the main focus of the investigation.
[29:44] The presence of Italian good luck charms on the victim
[29:47] further fuels this line of thought.
[29:49] It's an enticing theory that paints the John Doe as possibly
[29:53] a mob associate or victim of a gang hit.
[29:56] However, no direct evidence has ever emerged linking him to
[30:00] known organized crime, and law enforcement has not confirmed
[30:04] any Mafia connection. The Mafia theory remains
[30:08] speculative, born from the circumstances more than from
[30:11] concrete proof. Another theory suggests that
[30:16] this man was involved in the Mafia in perhaps a much less
[30:19] direct way. Under this theory, he may have
[30:22] invited the vampire into his home, so to speak, by taking out
[30:26] a loan from someone associated with a criminal organization.
[30:30] He may have been unable to pay the exorbitant interest rate, or
[30:34] he may have simply refused to pay directly, leading to him
[30:38] being found in a river. Another theory is that the John
[30:43] Doe wasn't local at all, but a traveler or transient who met a
[30:47] deadly fate far from home. Under this theory, he may have
[30:52] been an Italian tourist who had embarked on a tour across
[30:56] America. During the 1970s.
[30:59] It was common for young people to hitchhike, and in a grim
[31:03] twist, this openness led to many people being targeted by serial
[31:07] predators. However, the authorities appear
[31:11] to consider this to be a much less likely scenario.
[31:14] Though this may just be based on simple statistics and
[31:17] demographics, there were way more Italian Americans and
[31:21] Italian immigrants in New York State than Italian hitchhikers
[31:25] in the 70s. Another plausible angle is that
[31:30] the Onondaga County John Doe originated in Canada in the
[31:34] 1970s Southern Ontario, especially Hamilton, and the
[31:39] Montreal region across the border in Quebec had significant
[31:43] mafia activity. He could have been in America on
[31:47] a job for one of these mafia families.
[31:50] If the victim was Canadian, that could help explain why he never
[31:54] appeared in American missing persons files.
[31:59] Ultimately, the case will be cracked whenever the local cold
[32:02] case team decides to send his genetic information away for
[32:05] genealogical testing. Until that time, the Onondaga
[32:10] County John Doe will remain a complete unknown and the person
[32:14] or group who did this to him will keep getting away with it.
[32:22] Hey everyone, Jimmy here, just reminding you to hit the like
[32:26] button and the notification bell and turn on all notifications.
[32:30] Also, don't forget to hit that share button and send this video
[32:34] to two people you know. I'm constantly working on
[32:37] putting out new content, and the best way you can ensure that
[32:40] continues is by clicking that share button and helping the
[32:44] audience grow. On a cold evening in December
[32:50] 2017, a high school auditorium in Bailey, Co buzzed with
[32:55] anticipation for a concert. 17 year old Maggie Long was
[33:00] supposed to be there, helping manage the event and even
[33:03] bringing homemade cookies for the audience.
[33:06] But as the opening act began, Maggie was nowhere to be found.
[33:10] Instead, just a few miles away, firefighters were battling a
[33:15] blaze at her family's home, a fire that would reveal A
[33:19] horrific crime and leave a community in shock.
[33:23] This is the story of Maggie Long's slaying, an unsolved case
[33:28] that has perplexed investigators and fueled numerous theories in
[33:32] the years since. That fateful night, December
[33:37] 1st, 2017, began like any other day for Maggie Long, a senior at
[33:42] Platte Canyon High School. That afternoon, she left school
[33:47] briefly to head home, intending to change clothes and pick up
[33:50] some cookies for the concert she was helping organize.
[33:53] At the school, Maggie was known as a responsible and involved
[33:58] student, so when she failed to return to the concert, those who
[34:02] knew her immediately sensed something was wrong.
[34:06] Her older sister, Connie, later said she had a gut feeling
[34:09] something was wrong since Maggie would never just skip out on an
[34:13] event she was managing. As time passed with no sign of
[34:17] Maggie, Connie tried calling her phone but got no answer.
[34:23] Growing increasingly anxious, she drove toward their family's
[34:26] rural property. When Connie arrived around 7:20
[34:30] PM, she was met with a scene of chaos.
[34:34] The long house was engulfed in flames and emergency vehicles
[34:38] swarmed the driveway. Firefighters kept the family
[34:42] back as they fought the blaze, and it wasn't until hours later
[34:46] that authorities confirmed their worst fear.
[34:51] Around 7:00 PM on December 1st, a 911 caller reported a fire and
[34:56] disturbance at the long residence outside Bailey.
[35:00] Firefighters arrived to find the house engulfed in flames.
[35:04] After the blaze was extinguished, responders
[35:07] discovered Maggie's remains in the charred house and it was
[35:10] immediately clear her death was no accident.
[35:14] Investigators determined that Maggie had been brutally
[35:16] attacked and that the fire was deliberately set to cover up the
[35:20] crime. In fact, investigators
[35:23] discovered multiple ignition points in the house, showing the
[35:26] perpetrators determination to erase evidence.
[35:30] Evidence at the scene showed she had struggled with her
[35:33] assailants before being overpowered and horrifyingly,
[35:37] she was set on fire while still alive.
[35:39] According to the coroner's findings, the perpetrators also
[35:44] stole a number of items from the home, including numerous weapons
[35:48] and thousands of rounds of ammunition.
[35:51] They also made off with a small safe that they apparently were
[35:54] unable to crack on sight. This suggested the intruders
[35:58] targeted the longhouse expecting to find valuables and weapons,
[36:02] and they were willing to use extreme violence to get away
[36:05] with their loot. Despite a multi agency task
[36:10] force, months passed with no arrests or major breakthroughs.
[36:15] Early on, authorities released composite sketches of three male
[36:19] suspects seen around the long property that day, but so far
[36:25] none have been identified. Investigators tracked down
[36:29] numerous tips and persons of interest, including some local
[36:33] individuals with troubled or violent histories, but every
[36:37] lead eventually went nowhere. Then an unexpected lead emerged
[36:42] from 700 miles away in Missouri in mid 2018.
[36:47] A similar case in Missouri, where a young woman was attacked
[36:51] and set on fire during a burglary, caught investigators
[36:55] attention as a possible connection.
[36:58] The two men arrested in Missouri were in their 20s, which led
[37:02] Colorado detectives to investigate whether they had
[37:05] ever been in Colorado around the time of Maggie's death.
[37:09] Ultimately, however, no solid link between the Missouri
[37:13] criminals and Maggie's slaying could be established.
[37:19] From the outset, investigators believed Maggie's slaying was a
[37:23] burglary gone wrong. In their estimation, this was
[37:26] essentially A botched robbery that turned deadly.
[37:30] The item stolen and the apparent focus on the family safe
[37:34] suggested the intruders specifically targeted the long
[37:37] home for its valuables. They believe that Maggie's
[37:41] unexpected arrival likely provoked the violent
[37:44] confrontation. However, in 2021, the FBI
[37:51] announced a very different possible motive.
[37:54] Maggie may have been targeted for a very different reason.
[37:57] Her case was reclassified and agents began investigating
[38:01] whether bias against Maggie's Asian American background played
[38:05] a significant role in this crime.
[38:08] This shift brought additional federal resources to the case
[38:12] and raised the question of whether the extreme cruelty of
[38:15] the attack was driven by this factor.
[38:19] Now, I can't really comment on this much further since the
[38:22] authorities haven't released any evidence whatsoever as to why
[38:25] they have come to this potential conclusion.
[38:28] However, in general, when the FBI comes out and makes a
[38:32] statement like this, they have a very strong reason to believe
[38:35] that's the case. As of now, Maggie Long's slaying
[38:41] is still unsolved, standing as one of Colorado's most haunting
[38:44] cold cases. Nevertheless, neither her family
[38:48] nor law enforcement have given up.
[38:51] The reward for information leading to an arrest now stands
[38:55] at $75,000, contributed by the Long family and multiple
[39:01] agencies involved in the investigation.
[39:04] Further, given the potential motivation for this attack, the
[39:08] authorities are investigating similar crimes both in Colorado
[39:12] and across the nation. Anyway, Whether the motive was
[39:17] robbery or something much more sinister, this case is
[39:21] incredibly disturbing and the perpetrators need to be brought
[39:24] to justice as soon as possible. Unfortunately, Maggie's case
[39:28] hasn't gotten the attention it deserves, So if you're in a
[39:31] position to signal booster case, get out there and do it.
[39:35] With cold cases like these, the only way they seem to get solved
[39:40] is by ongoing and unrelenting attention to the case.
[39:47] On July 14th, 1882, a man named James Yost was hauling wood
[39:52] through the dry grasslands of West Turkey Creek Canyon in
[39:55] Arizona Territory when his dog started acting strangely.
[40:00] Nearing a peculiar cluster of five large oak trees that grew
[40:03] in a semicircle from a single root, Yost saw what he first
[40:07] took to be a man sleeping. But the dog's nervous snorting
[40:11] told a different story, and upon investigation, Yost found the
[40:15] lifeless body of one of the West's most notorious outlaws,
[40:19] Johnny Ringo. He was seated on a large Flat
[40:23] Rock within the embrace of the oaks, his back against a tree in
[40:27] an almost peaceful pose. But the scene was anything but
[40:31] peaceful. A single bullet had entered his
[40:34] right temple and exited the top of his head.
[40:37] His weapon was still in his hand and it looked very clear what
[40:41] happened. But as time went on, this clear
[40:44] cut scene became one of the Old West's greatest mysteries.
[40:50] Ringo was barefoot, his feet wrapped in makeshift bindings
[40:54] torn from his own undershirt. His horse, with his boots still
[40:58] tied to the saddle, wouldn't be found for another 11 days 2
[41:02] miles away. He wore 2 cartridge belts, but
[41:06] the one for his revolver was buckled upside down, an
[41:09] inexplicable mistake for a seasoned veteran of the Old
[41:12] West. Most disturbing of all was a
[41:15] small clean cut at the base of his scalp, as if someone had
[41:19] taken a piece of his head to prove that the deed was done.
[41:25] To understand how Johnny Ringo ended up under those oaks, you
[41:28] have to understand the man. He was born in Indiana in 1850.
[41:34] His life was defined by a profound early trauma.
[41:39] At the age of 14, while his family migrated W, he witnessed
[41:44] his father accidentally take a shotgun blast directly to the
[41:47] face. The family was forced to bury
[41:50] him on a hillside along the trail and move on, with little
[41:54] time to contemplate whether this was really an accident or not.
[41:58] This gruesome event created a dark psychological echo that
[42:03] would reverberate throughout Ringo's own life.
[42:08] In the years that followed, Ringo cultivated the persona of
[42:12] a refined, educated gentleman outlaw, a man who could quote
[42:16] Shakespeare and carried a small library of classic books.
[42:20] Many who knew him described him as a reserved, college educated
[42:24] man, though the truth was more complex.
[42:27] While well read, Ringo had very little in the way of formal
[42:31] schooling. This intellectual image was a
[42:34] performance, a charming mask for a disturbed and violent man who
[42:38] wanted to be known for something other than his willingness to
[42:41] blast his Roscoe. His outlaw career began in
[42:47] earnest in Texas, where he got his start committing some cold
[42:50] blooded slayings. After the heat got too hot under
[42:54] the Texas sun, he decided it was best to move on.
[42:59] After drifting to Arizona, he fell in with the loose
[43:02] confederation of rustlers known as the Cochise County Cowboys in
[43:07] Tombstone. His reputation for a foul temper
[43:11] was cemented by incidents like shooting a man simply for
[43:14] refusing a shot of whiskey in favor of beer.
[43:20] Ringo was not present for the famous showdown at the OK
[43:23] Corral, but in its aftermath, he became a chief antagonist of the
[43:28] ERB faction. He openly challenged Wyatt Earp
[43:31] and Doc Holiday to a fight on the streets of Tombstone, a
[43:35] confrontation that was only stopped when a constable
[43:38] intervened. The Irps, in turn, suspected
[43:41] Ringo was involved in the ambush that crippled Virgil Earp and
[43:45] the slaying of Morgan Earp. When Wyatt Earp began his
[43:49] infamous Vendetta Ride, Ringo, despite being an absolute
[43:54] psychopath, was deputized by the Sheriff of Tombstone to hunt him
[43:58] down. Faced with the scene in Turkey
[44:03] Creek Canyon, a coroner's jury quickly reached a verdict.
[44:08] They looked at the scene and figured that this was the work
[44:10] of one man, Johnny Ringo himself.
[44:14] This ruling was supported by a considerable amount of anecdotal
[44:18] evidence. The story about the so-called
[44:20] accident his dad had during the family's westward travels was
[44:24] well known and suggested a potential family history of this
[44:27] sort of event. In the months before his death,
[44:31] Ringo was reportedly in a deep state of despair.
[44:35] The herb vendetta had decimated the ranks of his friends and
[44:38] allies. Further, he had recently visited
[44:41] his family in California and had been met with a cool reception
[44:46] and politely told he wasn't welcome to stay there, leaving
[44:51] him feeling rejected. The freewheeling, lawless world
[44:55] he knew was vanishing, and he seemed to be vanishing with it.
[45:02] His final days were spent in a prolonged drunken stupor.
[45:06] He left Tombstone after the 4th of July celebrations with
[45:09] several bottles of booze and was last seen by a sheriff's deputy
[45:14] who noted that he was falling off his horse.
[45:17] More telling were Ringo's own premonitions.
[45:20] He had told a newspaper editor just weeks earlier that he only
[45:23] had a few weeks left at best, and he implied that this event
[45:26] could be caused by either himself or by his enemies.
[45:33] Despite the official ruling, the strange clues at the scene have
[45:36] fueled speculation of a slaying for over a century.
[45:40] Several suspects have been named, their motives rooted in
[45:44] the legendary feuds of Tombstone, AZ.
[45:49] The most famous and cinematic theory is that Wyatt Earp,
[45:52] perhaps accompanied by Doc Holiday, secretly rode back into
[45:57] Arizona to fill Ringo full of lead and complete his vendetta.
[46:02] Earp himself helped craft this narrative in his later years,
[46:06] even providing his biographer with a detailed account of a
[46:09] supposed duel. This story provides A satisfying
[46:13] dramatic conclusion to the Earp Cowboy War, pitting the two
[46:17] factions champions against each other in a final showdown.
[46:22] However, this theory completely falls apart under factual
[46:25] scrutiny. Since Ringo died in July 1882,
[46:29] Earp and his posse had fled Arizona as wanted men.
[46:32] Four months earlier, in March, Doc Holiday, the other supposed
[46:37] participant, attended court in Colorado the same day as Ringo
[46:41] perished. Wyatt Earp himself was
[46:44] documented to be in Colorado as well during this period, though
[46:48] his whereabouts are less ironclad.
[46:51] Further dispelling this account is the fact that both of these
[46:55] men were wanted outlaws in Arizona at the time, with
[46:59] substantial bounties on their heads.
[47:02] The consensus from historians is now that Wyatt Earp simply
[47:06] fabricated this event while he was building his own legend in
[47:10] the early 20th century. A far more plausible suspect was
[47:16] a man Ringo considered a friend, a very bad hombre named
[47:19] Buckskin. Frank Leslie Buckskin was a
[47:22] bartender, a scout, and a known psychopath who was in essence a
[47:27] serial predator before the terminology had been coined.
[47:31] The evidence against him is compelling.
[47:34] In November 1882, Leslie got into an argument with one of
[47:38] Ringo's good friends, a fellow outlaw named Billy Claiborne, to
[47:43] defend his honor. Buckskin promptly eliminated
[47:45] Claiborne, with some accounts having him finishing off the man
[47:49] in cold blood. Even after he posed no threat,
[47:53] Claiborne's dying words to those around him made it clear that he
[47:57] had seen Buckskin shoot Ringo. Years later, while serving a
[48:03] sentence for slaying his wife, Buckskin reportedly confessed to
[48:07] a prison guard that he had in fact eliminated Ringo.
[48:12] According to this account, Buckskin, Claiborne and Ringo
[48:15] were in the Turkey Creek area when the men got into an
[48:18] argument. Buckskin claimed he shot in
[48:21] self-defense. But this is a guy with a lot of
[48:24] bodies to his name, including completely innocent people, so
[48:28] take that with a grain of salt. A final, often overlooked
[48:34] suspect is a gambler named Michael O'Rourke.
[48:37] In 1881, O'Rourke eliminated a man in a nearby town over a
[48:42] minor disagreement, and an angry mob formed up to hunt him down.
[48:48] Johnny Ringo was amongst the members of this mob, and Wyatt
[48:52] Earp ended up stepping in to save O'rourke's life.
[48:55] Under this theory, this gambler saved by Earp may have done a
[49:00] favor for him by taking out Johnny Ringo.
[49:04] While the motive is clear, the most persuasive evidence is what
[49:08] happened after Ringo's death. 1 of Ringo's closest friends later
[49:12] haunted down and slew Michael O'Rourke.
[49:15] According to some, this can be seen as a verdict delivered by
[49:19] way of Old W Frontier Justice. In the end, the death of Johnny
[49:25] Ringo remains an unsolvable case.
[49:28] The official verdict is supported by his psychological
[49:31] state, but contradicted by the bizarre physical evidence and
[49:34] circumstantial evidence. While the theory blaming Wyatt
[49:38] Earp directly is a fiction, the cases against Frank Leslie and
[49:42] Michael O'Rourke have significant circumstantial
[49:44] evidence in their favor. However, unless we have some
[49:48] unlikely new evidence that surfaces, such as a journal
[49:52] entry with a very direct confession that matches the
[49:55] evidence, the truth will remain an unsolved mystery.

Shows are listed from Apple Podcasts' charts and directory, and Podcast Index where it is used. Every show and episode belongs to its publisher and plays from the publisher's own feed; this site hosts none of them.
