# 3 Unsolved Disappearances: Mary Frances Gregory, Wendy Gessing, Heather Bloom

An episode of [Lazy Chill True Crime](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1815534472), 31 Jul 2025, 27 min.

Audio: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/APO7165132302.mp3

John me as we discuss the cases of Mary Frances Gregory, Wendy Gessing, and Heather Bloom. Chapters: 0:00 Mary Frances Gregory 8:32 Wendy Gessing 16:07 Heather Bloom 👇 Support My Work: 🛍️ Merch: https://lazy-chill-zone-shop.fourthwall.com ❤️ Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lazychillzone 👇 Youtube links: Lazy Chill True Crime Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8dVJtzeHcJgd_Z0bHrJTHQ Lazy Chill History Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@LazyChillHistory Lazy Chill Zone Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@LazyChillZone 👇Social Media Links: https://www.instagram.com/lazychillzone/ 👇 Podcast links: ⚡True Crime Podcast on Spotify⚡: https://open.spotify.com/show/0klIz08pAr7wR4we0Ia4sk?si=68qZxCeAQkysXzMZrHE0Iw 🍏 True Crime Podcast on Apple 🍎: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lazy-chill-true-crime/id1815534472 Keywords: Mary Frances Gregory disappearance, Wendy Gessing missing, Heather Bloom unsolved, true crime podcast, missing persons, missing woman, cold case podcast, California disappearance, Michigan missing woman, unresolved cases, real unsolved mysteries, 2021 missing case, 2005 disappearance, 1978 missing, police investigation podcast, crime analysis, who kidnapped Heather Bloom, what happened to Wendy Gessing, is Mary Frances Gregory still missing, vanished without a trace, female missing persons podcast, long-term missing, podcast about unsolved crimes

## Transcript

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[0:30] On a cold winter day in February 19, 7819, year old Mary Francis
[0:35] Gregory stepped into a car with a friend and set off from her
[0:39] hometown of Perry Sound in Ontario, Canada.
[0:42] She was headed for what she imagined would be a dream
[0:45] vacation in California, but she would never come home.
[0:50] Mary Francis Gregory's disappearance remains one of the
[0:53] most baffling cold cases to straddle the United States and
[0:56] Canada. More than four decades later,
[1:00] her fate is still unknown, leaving her family and
[1:03] investigators with more questions than answers.
[1:09] Mary was a 19 year old resident of Perry Sound, a small, close
[1:14] knit town on the shores of Georgian Bay in Ontario, Canada.
[1:18] Born on May 27th, 1958, she was a young adult with her whole
[1:23] life ahead of her when she decided to embark on a trip to
[1:27] California. Like many teenagers of her era,
[1:31] she was excited for adventure, specifically a vacation to sunny
[1:36] California, a state which has an almost mythical level of
[1:40] magnetism for tourists. For reasons that aren't entirely
[1:44] known, her chosen destination was Palo Alto.
[1:50] Mary left Perry Sound on February 15th, 1978 to begin her
[1:55] trip to California. She didn't travel alone.
[1:59] Accompanying her was a male acquaintance, described as a
[2:02] friend, who had agreed to drive her to the United States.
[2:06] The pair reportedly crossed the border via New York State on
[2:10] February 18th, 1978. From there, according to the
[2:14] man's account, they embarked on a zigzagging road trip across
[2:18] the country. This indirect path, rather than
[2:22] a more direct route to California, has drawn scrutiny.
[2:27] At any rate, he later told authorities that he drove with
[2:30] Mary through New York, PA, Ohio, Illinois, Colorado, Utah,
[2:37] Arizona, and then finally reaching Nevada.
[2:41] This trip took place over 10 days and covered approximately
[2:44] 2500 miles. Nearly two weeks after leaving
[2:48] Canada, the man claimed he dropped Mary off alone at a bus
[2:52] station in Las Vegas on February 28th, 1978.
[2:59] This Las Vegas bus station drop off is the last reported point
[3:03] where Mary was seen. However, it's important to note
[3:06] that this detail comes solely from the Companions account.
[3:10] Mary herself wasn't definitively cited by any independent
[3:14] witnesses in Las Vegas. No public explanation has ever
[3:18] been given for why Mary would have been left at a Las Vegas
[3:22] bus depot when her intended destination in California was
[3:26] still over 500 miles away. Mary never arrived in Palo Alto,
[3:32] or at least was never confirmed to be there, and was never heard
[3:35] from again. She had been carrying luggage on
[3:38] the trip, but her bags were never found after her
[3:41] disappearance. While some people find this part
[3:44] odd, personally I find this to be the least unusual part of the
[3:49] case since luggage gets lost all the time and travel and just
[3:54] ends up discarded. Her family received no calls or
[3:58] letters from her after she left home, and she simply vanished
[4:01] somewhere on the journey to her California dream.
[4:07] The disappearance of Mary Francis Gregory has been handled
[4:10] primarily by the Ontario Provincial Police in Canada.
[4:14] However, her case was also entered into California's
[4:17] missing persons records, given that Palo Alto was her intended
[4:22] destination. Notably, however, Mary is not
[4:25] listed as a missing person in Nevada, which raises questions
[4:29] about the legitimacy of the Las Vegas bus station account.
[4:35] Authorities have never publicly named the male travel companion
[4:38] who was with Mary, but police did speak with him and he
[4:42] provided the cross country travel story.
[4:45] His account remains the only version of events, and no
[4:48] independent witnesses have confirmed seeing Mary in Las
[4:51] Vegas or anywhere beyond her departure from Canada.
[4:55] Investigators have kept most details of the case confidential
[4:59] and without concrete evidence of a crime.
[5:02] No arrests have been made without this concrete evidence.
[5:08] Several theories have emerged about what might have happened
[5:11] to Mary. Since the case is just so ripe
[5:14] for speculation. One possibility is that her
[5:17] companion's story was virtually entirely false.
[5:21] Skeptics wonder if Mary ever made it as far as Las Vegas, or
[5:26] if something befell her earlier in the trip.
[5:28] If the man harmed her somewhere along the way, he might have
[5:31] fabricated the bus station drop off as a cover story.
[5:35] For instance, it's unclear why he would have left Mary in
[5:38] Nevada instead of driving her the rest of the way to
[5:41] California, a detail that many find deeply suspicious.
[5:47] The fact that Mary's bags disappeared with her never
[5:50] turning up at any bus depot or with any lost luggage reinforces
[5:55] the idea that she met with foul play.
[6:00] Many are skeptical that Mary even left Canada at all, and
[6:03] that perhaps the companion did something to her before even
[6:06] leaving the country. Notably, it's never been
[6:09] confirmed that the two ever crossed the border.
[6:12] In the 1970s, it was possible to cross the border just by
[6:16] swearing an oral declaration that you were indeed a Canadian
[6:20] citizen. Absolutely no identification was
[6:24] required whatsoever, and record keeping at the border for non
[6:28] commercial travel was absolutely minimal.
[6:33] Some have suggested that the male companion may have taken
[6:35] Mary in an entirely different direction.
[6:39] While going South from Perry Sound leads to the metropolis of
[6:42] Toronto, going north from this town leads to vast wilderness.
[6:47] Further, Perry Sound itself has thousands of small, deep lakes,
[6:52] many of which are only accessible by foot or by plane.
[6:55] If the companion used a local lake as a dump site, it's
[6:58] entirely possible that this lake may be holding this dark secret
[7:02] until this day. As the last person to see her,
[7:07] the unnamed companion remains a focus of suspicion to this day
[7:11] in the minds of many, though authorities have never publicly
[7:14] labeled him a suspect. Another theory is that the
[7:19] friend was telling the truth about leaving Mary in Las Vegas
[7:23] and that she fell victim to a stranger afterward.
[7:26] If Mary truly arrived alone in Las Vegas on February 28th,
[7:31] 1978, she may have tried to continue on to California by
[7:35] herself. The late 1970s saw many young
[7:39] travelers come to harm while hitch hiking or trusting
[7:43] strangers. Mary could have been picked up
[7:46] by a predator that left her missing without a trace.
[7:51] Her family, for their part, believes that she may have had a
[7:55] dissociative fugue and simply went on to live a new life after
[7:59] this period of amnesia. I can see why this idea would be
[8:03] very attractive to her family members, as this is something
[8:07] that can legitimately happen. This theory would allow Mary to
[8:11] both be alive and living her best life while having not ever
[8:15] intentionally abandoned her family.
[8:18] However, it's important to remember these states are
[8:20] extremely rare and usually only last a couple weeks at most.
[8:25] So while it may be comforting, it doesn't seem likely.
[8:31] Further yet, this scenario becomes even more unlikely when
[8:35] you take into account the surrounding circumstances with
[8:37] the male companion she was with. While both Ontario and
[8:43] California have open investigations into this case,
[8:47] given the jurisdictional issues, it's unclear how significant any
[8:51] ongoing efforts are. Unfortunately, it seems that
[8:54] Mary's case largely fell through the jurisdictional cracks and
[8:58] into obscurity. It was a routine Saturday
[9:04] afternoon in Crest Hill, IL when 50 year old Wendy Guessing
[9:09] walked out of her job and seemingly vanished into thin
[9:11] air. On June 12th, 2021, Wendy was
[9:17] part way through her shift at Pizzas by Marchelloni, which was
[9:21] a local pizza shop owned by her long time boyfriend.
[9:25] She stepped away to run a quick errand and ended up dropping off
[9:29] the face of the earth, leaving people still wondering where she
[9:32] is over four years later. However, in 2025, it would turn
[9:38] out that a dark secret from Wendy's past might provide the
[9:42] most plausible explanation for what happened in this disturbing
[9:45] unsolved mystery. On the afternoon of June 12th,
[9:50] 2021, around 4:00 PM, Wendy received a phone call while at
[9:55] work. She told a Co worker she was
[9:58] stepping out briefly to give someone a ride and then drove
[10:01] off in her Gray Honda CRV, possibly heading toward nearby
[10:05] Joliet. That was the last time anyone
[10:08] saw Wendy and she never returned to the pizzeria and didn't make
[10:11] it home. When Wendy failed to come back,
[10:14] her family reported her missing and police began to search.
[10:19] In the next few days, two puzzling clues turned up.
[10:23] On June 15th. Her cell phone was found
[10:26] discarded along a road in Romeoville, a town several miles
[10:30] away. Two days later, on June 17th,
[10:33] Wendy's Honda was discovered abandoned on a Dead End St. in
[10:37] Joliet. The car was parked on Bell Ave.
[10:40] A St. known for frequent police calls and criminal activity.
[10:46] Law enforcement mobilized significant resources and
[10:49] expertise to find Wendy. Crest Hill Police led the case,
[10:54] assisted by the Will County Sheriff's Office and the FBI.
[10:58] Detectives executed numerous searches and warrants, analyzing
[11:02] cell phone records, surveillance videos, and any physical
[11:06] evidence from her car. By 2025 / 25 search warrants had
[11:12] been issued and at least eight locations, from homes to wooded
[11:17] areas, had been scoured for any trace of Wendy.
[11:21] Nearly 200 pieces of potential evidence were collected, and
[11:25] Wendy's vehicle itself was combed for clues.
[11:28] Yet nothing has definitively revealed what happened to her.
[11:34] Early on, a tip suggested Wendy might have been spotted at a
[11:37] Motel 6 in Joliet a few days after she vanished.
[11:41] Reports claim that extremely grainy security footage did show
[11:45] a woman who could technically be her at that motel, but the image
[11:49] was too poor to be conclusive. Notably here I say reports
[11:53] claimed, since I haven't been able to find this footage myself
[11:57] online, and I'm usually pretty good at sniffing that sort of
[12:00] thing out on local news sites. Notably, Wendy's boyfriend
[12:06] doubted that the woman on the tape was her, and police could
[12:09] not confirm the sighting. Aside from that unverified lead,
[12:14] no confirmed trace of Wendy ever surfaced after she left the
[12:17] pizza shop. Throughout the investigation,
[12:22] Wendy's digital footprint remained eerily silent.
[12:26] No bank withdrawals or social media activity occurred after
[12:29] she went missing. Her boyfriend had an extremely
[12:33] solid alibi at a nearby social club during the time of her
[12:36] disappearance. In fact, authorities explicitly
[12:39] ruled him out, and he has been fully cooperative with the
[12:43] investigation throughout the entire time.
[12:47] And while sometimes I would question these findings when
[12:49] it's just a local Police Department involved, this is a
[12:52] case where the FBI is on it as well.
[12:57] With her inner circle largely ruled out, detectives focused on
[13:01] leads beyond her immediate family.
[13:06] Nearly four years later, in 2025, police announced A
[13:09] breakthrough. Crest Hills police chief
[13:12] revealed they had identified a person of interest in Wendy's
[13:15] case. This individual had been in
[13:17] contact with Wendy in the weeks leading up to her disappearance
[13:21] and was allegedly involved in the local St.
[13:24] Pharmaceuticals scene. Investigators noted that the
[13:27] person of interest was known to frequent the same Joliet
[13:30] neighborhood where Wendy's car had been dumped.
[13:34] Furthermore, Wendy's phone had last pinged in an area that this
[13:38] person was known to often visit. These overlaps, personal contact
[13:43] with Wendy and ties to the locations where her belongings
[13:47] turned up made the unnamed individual a major focus of the
[13:51] investigation. Police have kept tabs on this
[13:55] person and have been in communication with them, though
[13:58] no arrest has been made as of yet.
[14:02] While authorities stopped short of officially calling this
[14:04] person a suspect, the development has given the case a
[14:08] new direction and renewed hope of finally finding answers.
[14:14] Given the evidence, a voluntary runaway scenario appears very
[14:18] unlikely. Wendy did nothing to prepare for
[14:20] disappearing and left behind everything important to her.
[14:24] Her finances were untouched and she contacted no one after June
[14:28] 12th. Those who knew her insist she
[14:31] would never have simply walked away from her life, and all
[14:34] signs suggest Wendy did not vanish by choice.
[14:40] Most theories therefore involve foul play.
[14:43] The most plausible scenario is that Wendy met with someone that
[14:46] afternoon who intended to harm her.
[14:49] As I mentioned at the beginning of this segment, she left work
[14:53] to help someone by giving them a ride, implying she met a
[14:57] specific individual. If that meeting turned
[15:00] dangerous, it could explain why her car was later left in a
[15:04] particular spot and her phone discarded elsewhere.
[15:08] This was likely an attempt by a perpetrator to cover their
[15:11] tracks. The person of interest
[15:15] identified by police fits this narrative.
[15:18] Someone who knew Wendy and had potential criminal motives.
[15:22] It's possible Wendy was unwittingly pulled into a
[15:25] situation involving illegal activity and became a target of
[15:28] violence. However, there's that one dark
[15:34] secret I hinted at in the beginning of this segment.
[15:37] Wendy had a history of substance use problems, though she had
[15:41] been clean for some time. The early stages of a relapse
[15:45] are generally considered the most risky in terms of an
[15:48] overdose. Since the tolerance for the
[15:50] substance has faded, an individual may believe they can
[15:54] take the sort of dose they took while they were in their
[15:57] addiction and had built up a tolerance and then
[16:00] unfortunately, accidentally OD. It's possible that she ended up
[16:06] overdosing in a trap house and that the dealer took steps to
[16:09] cover up what happened. Personally, this is the theory I
[16:14] prefer since it appears to fit all the evidence in the case.
[16:18] Now that the authorities have identified the person of
[16:21] interest in the case. Today, Wendy Guessing's fate
[16:27] remains unresolved, though it appears that the police are
[16:30] closer than ever to closing this case out once and for all.
[16:38] For four years, no one even realized that Heather Bloom was
[16:40] missing. From late 2005 until 2009, her
[16:45] disappearance went entirely unreported, a delay that
[16:49] hindered efforts to find her. Heather was a 28 year old woman
[16:53] with Down syndrome who depended on others for every aspect of
[16:56] her care. Yet she managed to vanish
[16:59] without a trace from Berkeley, CA in 2005 on a trip from New
[17:04] York where her mother dumped her off with her sister.
[17:07] Even more chilling, the only person who might know what
[17:10] happened refused to let anyone see Heather and then quietly
[17:14] left the country. In the years that followed, it
[17:18] seemed unthinkable that a vulnerable woman like Heather
[17:21] could vanish without anyone noticing.
[17:24] But it happened. Nearly two decades later, the
[17:28] question remains, what really happened to Heather Bloom?
[17:36] Heather had spent her entire life in New York, so a trip to
[17:39] California was a major change for her.
[17:42] Heather's story took a mysterious turn in the fall of
[17:45] 2005, when she and her mother stayed with Heather's sister,
[17:49] Sherri. This visit would be the last
[17:51] time Heather was seen by anyone outside her family.
[17:55] During the stay, police were called to Sherry's apartment to
[17:58] intervene in a loud argument between Phyllis, the mother, and
[18:02] Sherry, With Heather in the middle of the commotion, the
[18:06] officers diffused the situation, and once things calmed down,
[18:11] Phyllis returned home to New York, leaving Heather and
[18:14] Sherry's care at the Berkeley apartment.
[18:17] That unusual handoff of Heather to Sherry marked the beginning
[18:21] of Heather's unexplained absence.
[18:25] For a while, nothing apparently seemed to miss, and after
[18:29] Phyllis left California, she apparently lost contact with
[18:33] both of her daughters. She heard no updates from Sherry
[18:37] and had no direct communication with Heather.
[18:40] Heather, a vulnerable adult who couldn't speak for herself,
[18:45] simply vanished from public view.
[18:48] There were no familiar neighbors or friends in California to
[18:51] notice her absence, and Heather wasn't enrolled in any local
[18:55] care programs or services that might have raised an alarm.
[18:59] It wasn't until June 2009, nearly four years later, that
[19:05] Phyllis finally reported Heather missing.
[19:10] When Berkeley police opened a missing person investigation in
[19:13] 2009, they were already years behind.
[19:17] Detectives discovered that Sherri had moved out of her
[19:20] apartment back in 2007, leaving no sign of where Heather had
[19:24] gone. It took months to track Sherri
[19:27] down, and when they finally located her in March 2010, the
[19:32] mystery only deepened. Sherri refused to let officers
[19:36] inside her home, speaking to them only through a window.
[19:40] She insisted that Heather was fine but would not allow anyone
[19:44] to see her, offering no evidence of her sister's well-being.
[19:48] This evasive behavior raised immediate red flags for the
[19:51] police, who feared for Heather's safety.
[19:55] However, it also put law enforcement in a bind.
[19:59] They were alarmed, but without clear evidence of wrongdoing or
[20:03] a court order, there was little they could do to force Sherry's
[20:06] compliance. Police soon uncovered more
[20:11] unsettling details. Sherry's landlord and neighbors
[20:14] reported that they had never seen Heather at the apartment.
[20:17] Not even once. Shortly after that tense welfare
[20:21] check, Sherri abruptly packed up and moved again, disappearing
[20:26] before authorities could learn anything more about Heather's
[20:28] fate. She was evicted from the
[20:31] apartment for owing around $13,000 in back rent, suggesting
[20:36] A chaotic and unstable situation.
[20:40] Once Sherri left town, this time, the trail to find Heather
[20:43] went cold again. Years passed with no sign of
[20:48] either sister. Finally, in 2016, a breakthrough
[20:53] investigators learned that Sherri had left the country and
[20:56] gone to Norway on a student visa.
[20:59] She had moved overseas for school, which explained why she
[21:02] had been so hard to find. Sherri's relocation abroad posed
[21:07] a major roadblock for the investigation.
[21:10] Berkeley police and local journalists tried to contact
[21:13] Sherri in Norway, but she never responded.
[21:16] Given Heather's disabilities, it seemed unlikely she could have
[21:20] travelled overseas under the radar.
[21:23] Most likely, if she was still alive, she remained somewhere in
[21:26] California. But with Sherry out of reach and
[21:30] refusing to cooperate, authorities had no leads on
[21:33] where to look next and no way to verify Heather's condition or
[21:38] whereabouts. Several theories have emerged to
[21:43] explain Heather Bloom's disappearance.
[21:47] The most direct suspicion falls on Sherry as the last person
[21:51] with Heather. Sherry's odd behaviour has led
[21:54] many to believe she knows exactly what happened.
[21:58] Her refusal to produce Heather on demand and her pattern of
[22:01] abruptly moving away suggest she may have been hiding something
[22:05] all along. Neighbors didn't report seeing
[22:09] Heather around at any time. This fuels A grim theory that
[22:15] Heather may have perished under Sherry's care, whether due to
[22:18] untreated health issues, an accident, or even something more
[22:22] sinister. For the first two options,
[22:26] there's always the potential that Sherry panicked and covered
[22:29] it up instead of reporting it. However, authorities have found
[22:34] no evidence of foul play and have not charged Sherry with any
[22:37] crime. Officially, Heather remains a
[22:40] missing person, not a confirmed crime victim.
[22:46] Another possibility is that Heather is alive but was
[22:49] secretly placed in a care facility or with a caretaker,
[22:52] and even the police have entertained this hopeful
[22:54] scenario. Perhaps Sherri became
[22:57] overwhelmed by the responsibility and, without
[23:01] telling anyone, arranged for Heather to live in a private
[23:04] care home or with another caregiver.
[23:08] It's even possible that she took her out of state to dump her off
[23:11] somewhere else, perhaps simply leaving her abandoned in a
[23:14] hospital waiting room. If so, Sherri's secretiveness
[23:19] could have been her way of avoiding legal trouble for
[23:21] abandoning her dependent sister. This theory lines up with the
[23:25] optimism police expressed, the hope that somewhere Heather has
[23:30] been receiving the care she needs, even if her identity
[23:34] isn't known to authorities. However, so far, checks of
[23:38] hospitals and care homes haven't turned up any trace of Heather
[23:42] under another identity. But the possibility cannot be
[23:45] ruled out. Perhaps the most sinister
[23:49] allegation is that Heather's mother and sister colluded to
[23:52] make her quote UN quote disappear.
[23:55] Some have speculated that Phyllis might have willingly
[23:58] left Heather with Sherry as part of a plan.
[24:01] Moving Heather across the country would make her absence
[24:04] in New York much less noticeable and would provide an easy
[24:07] explanation for why Heather was no longer there.
[24:12] However, this allegation falls apart extremely quickly under
[24:16] scrutiny. It was Phyllis who eventually
[24:19] sounded the alarm in 2009, an unlikely move if she had
[24:23] intended for Heather's disappearance to go unnoticed as
[24:26] it had been. Authorities have never
[24:29] implicated Phyllis in any wrongdoing, and officially she
[24:33] was a distraught parent seeking help to find her missing child.
[24:40] Though of course it's inescapable that even in the
[24:42] official version of events told by Phyllis, it appears she
[24:46] dumped off her disabled daughter with her non disabled daughter.
[24:51] After that, Phyllis washed her hands clean of both of them for
[24:54] four years. Which brings me to my next
[24:56] point. One lingering question is why
[25:00] Phyllis waited so long to report Heather missing and what
[25:04] triggered her to eventually do so.
[25:07] It's an aspect of the case that continues to baffle observers.
[25:11] We may never know what was going through the mother's mind during
[25:14] those four years. What is certain is that the
[25:17] delay in reporting has made investigating Heather's
[25:20] disappearance that much more difficult.
[25:23] This lost time is one of the most frustrating facets of the
[25:26] case, leaving basically everyone to wonder if the outcome might
[25:30] have been different had the alarm been raised sooner.
[25:36] Another question that's been raised is who was cashing
[25:38] Heather's government checks intended for her care during
[25:41] those four years, if anyone? I suspect the authorities
[25:45] already know the answer to this question and simply haven't
[25:49] released this to the public. However, I do question whether a
[25:53] forensic accountant has looked over the accounts of both Sherry
[25:56] and Phyllis, though I suspect that isn't possible since
[26:00] neither have been implicated officially.
[26:04] Today, nearly 20 years after she vanished, there is still no
[26:08] answer to Heather Bloom's fate. Heather would be in her late 40s
[26:12] now, but no one knows whether she is alive or not.
[26:16] However, I'm hopeful that the simplest solution is the
[26:19] accurate one. In this case, Heather may have
[26:22] been abandoned as an unknown person somewhere safe, and she's
[26:25] now being cared for by the state.
[26:28] It's not ideal by any means, and it's both incredibly sad and
[26:32] infuriating, but the alternatives are so much more
[26:35] disturbing. Of course, the conduct of the
[26:41] sister and the mother is already disturbing.
[26:43] Regardless, Heather needed love and care, and it appears that at
[26:47] best she got abandonment twice by two of the people who were
[26:52] supposed to love and care for her most.
[26:55] So yeah, this is one of those stories that really makes me
[26:58] question humanity, which is saying a lot considering that I
[27:01] constantly research and cover dark content.

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