# What Do You Wanna Talk About? - Fallon Henley

An episode of [What's Your Story? with Steph McMahon](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1809157423), 1 Jul 2026, 56 min.

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Fallon Henley sits down with Cody Rhodes to talk about learning under Shawn Michaels, Fatal Influence and the future of women’s wrestling. A WWE and Fanatics Original Production, brought to you by AG1. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:06] Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, this is the American Nightmare, Cody Rhodes.
[0:08] Speaker 1: Welcome to What Do You Want to Talk About? A
[0:10] Speaker 1: Fanatics and WWE original production. We have a very special
[0:15] Speaker 1: guest today.
[0:16] Speaker 2: Very special.
[0:17] Speaker 1: One third of fatal influence and brand new to the
[0:21] Speaker 1: SmackDown scene. Not brand new to the wrestling space, which
[0:24] Speaker 1: we're going to get into, but this is exciting. And
[0:27] Speaker 1: I also, I don't know if you can see from
[0:29] Speaker 1: where I can see, but there are some cowboy boots,
[0:32] Speaker 1: cowgirl boots here. their belt buckles. This is a bit
[0:35] Speaker 1: of a, yep, it's all happening right here. Please welcome
[0:40] Speaker 1: to What Do You Want to Talk About? Fallon Henley.
[0:48] Speaker 2: Wow.
[0:49] Speaker 1: One third of fatal influence.
[0:51] Speaker 2: Yes, sir.
[0:51] Speaker 1: Fresh on SmackDown.
[0:52] Speaker 3: Yep.
[0:53] Speaker 1: How are you feeling?
[0:55] Speaker 2: I feel like I'm in a dream. It doesn't necessarily
[0:58] Speaker 2: feel real yet. I mean, just the fact that I've
[1:02] Speaker 2: been with WWE this long still feels like a dream.
[1:06] Speaker 2: But the fact that I'm up on SmackDown, Paige, Brie Bella,
[1:11] Speaker 2: Charlotte Flair, Alexa Bliss, all of these names, it's surreal.
[1:17] Speaker 2: I'm on such a high.
[1:20] Speaker 1: I'll ask you a question that someone watching is automatically
[1:23] Speaker 1: going to go, I don't know if you should have
[1:24] Speaker 1: asked that question.
[1:25] Speaker 2: Uh-oh.
[1:25] Speaker 1: Were you happy to be called up to SmackDown versus Raw?
[1:29] Speaker 2: I think I was gonna be happy no matter where
[1:31] Speaker 2: I went.
[1:32] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[1:32] Speaker 2: Because on either brand, you have immense amount of talent.
[1:37] Speaker 2: So I think in the future, you can always go
[1:42] Speaker 2: to Raw, you can always change, you can always go
[1:44] Speaker 2: to the next place. So it's like, I was happy
[1:46] Speaker 2: wherever I was gonna go.
[1:47] Speaker 1: SmackDown has, I've been on SmackDown since WrestleMania 40. It's
[1:52] Speaker 1: uniquely positioned in the company. but it's still SmackDown. It
[1:56] Speaker 1: has so much quality content that's within it, and fresh
[2:02] Speaker 1: blood coming in is part of the WrestleMania cycle. It's
[2:06] Speaker 1: also part of the wrestling industry in general. We just
[2:09] Speaker 1: had Jimmy Hart talking about one class graduates, another class
[2:12] Speaker 1: comes up, and it's great how young you guys are
[2:18] Speaker 1: coming up because now you're The benefit is the same
[2:22] Speaker 1: benefit I had where you get to grow up in
[2:24] Speaker 1: front of them. You get to hate them, love them,
[2:28] Speaker 1: be mad at them, have them be mad at you, slip, fall,
[2:31] Speaker 1: do all the great everything. It's just a great time
[2:37] Speaker 1: for SmackDown. So I'm very glad that you guys are
[2:39] Speaker 1: on SmackDown. I feel that I might have made a mistake.
[2:43] Speaker 1: I said, hey, you got to come on the podcast.
[2:46] Speaker 1: But JC and Lainey are not here. Am I in
[2:50] Speaker 1: trouble with them?
[2:53] Speaker 2: The thing is, is we're a unit. So if one
[2:57] Speaker 2: of us does something, it's helping all three of us. So,
[3:00] Speaker 2: I mean, then again, you should probably have them on
[3:02] Speaker 2: the future, but.
[3:04] Speaker 1: I need to make it up.
[3:05] Speaker 2: Yes, for sure. I definitely would make it up, but
[3:08] Speaker 2: at the end of the day, if one of us
[3:10] Speaker 2: does something good, it helps all of us.
[3:12] Speaker 1: I dig that. Are you enjoying your time together? I
[3:15] Speaker 1: know as far as wrestling goes... Partners are very real often. Yes.
[3:21] Speaker 1: And then every now and then when you have no
[3:23] Speaker 1: chemistry and nothing amongst you, then it's not. And you
[3:26] Speaker 1: look for the things that link you and the connective tissue.
[3:30] Speaker 1: But you guys seem very much, just watching from a
[3:32] Speaker 1: confidence level in the ring, you guys seem very much
[3:36] Speaker 1: a unit.
[3:37] Speaker 2: Yes.
[3:38] Speaker 1: And also it seems like you had good teachers at
[3:41] Speaker 1: NXT and not just the obvious, but good advice too
[3:45] Speaker 1: because you came up in a very ferocious way.
[3:48] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[3:49] Speaker 1: You're taking something.
[3:51] Speaker 2: You have to.
[3:51] Speaker 1: Yes.
[3:52] Speaker 2: If you're going to make that big of a move,
[3:53] Speaker 2: you have to make a statement.
[3:54] Speaker 1: Sure.
[3:55] Speaker 2: And that's exactly what we did. I mean, JC and
[3:58] Speaker 2: I started training together, what, 10 years ago at this
[4:02] Speaker 2: point at the same place? So we've known each other
[4:05] Speaker 2: our entire careers.
[4:06] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[4:07] Speaker 2: So that helps in us. being a unit and working
[4:10] Speaker 2: together and being cohesive. And we brought Laney in and
[4:13] Speaker 2: she's just a sponge. She, she's always learning. She's always listening.
[4:17] Speaker 2: She takes what we say and she uses it. And
[4:20] Speaker 2: all together, we're, we're all our different selves, our individual selves,
[4:25] Speaker 2: but we all just work so well together. And I mean,
[4:29] Speaker 2: clearly you can see.
[4:30] Speaker 1: Yeah. Also you're, you're the strength in numbers aspect of
[4:34] Speaker 1: what we can do. There's been great examples of comes
[4:36] Speaker 1: in threes and sports entertainment, pro wrestling, the shield being,
[4:40] Speaker 1: you know, a very modern example. You guys have one
[4:43] Speaker 1: another to lean on.
[4:44] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[4:45] Speaker 1: In terms of NXT and coming up, what do you,
[4:48] Speaker 1: what do you think the best thing? Cause you're up,
[4:50] Speaker 1: it's you, you, you're out, you know, not, not to
[4:53] Speaker 1: say it like that, but you're out. You've moved, you've
[4:55] Speaker 1: now moved on to what they were preparing you to
[4:57] Speaker 1: move on for. What do you feel was the best
[4:59] Speaker 1: thing that you got personally? Just you, um, whether it
[5:03] Speaker 1: was from Sean or from Terry or from Bloom, or
[5:05] Speaker 1: what was the best thing you got before coming up?
[5:08] Speaker 1: Is there anything that rings in your head when you're
[5:10] Speaker 1: up doing this?
[5:12] Speaker 2: That's a hard question because I don't necessarily feel like
[5:15] Speaker 2: there's just one thing. In the Performance Center, we have
[5:19] Speaker 2: so many coaches and so many brilliant brains. So every
[5:23] Speaker 2: time we go out, no matter what we're doing, I'm
[5:26] Speaker 2: always hearing somebody in the back of my mind. So
[5:30] Speaker 2: it's hard to pinpoint just one thing. Because I learned
[5:33] Speaker 2: so much and I had the luxury of being there
[5:35] Speaker 2: for a good amount of time. So every day I
[5:38] Speaker 2: went in, I was learning something new and being able
[5:40] Speaker 2: to apply it. So I can't pick just one thing.
[5:43] Speaker 1: Do you have a coach you didn't like? No. All likes? No.
[5:48] Speaker 2: Everybody has their own style. So some people are going
[5:51] Speaker 2: to be a little bit tougher. Some people are a
[5:53] Speaker 2: little bit sterner. But at the end of the day,
[5:55] Speaker 2: everybody's there just to help us get better. And nobody
[6:00] Speaker 2: there didn't do that.
[6:01] Speaker 1: Here's an observation I made from watching other folks come
[6:06] Speaker 1: up from NXT, and I just tried to explain this
[6:08] Speaker 1: to Ricky the other day. One of the things that is,
[6:12] Speaker 1: it can only be taught by the natural experience of
[6:16] Speaker 1: bouncing around, trying to climb the ladder, trying to get
[6:19] Speaker 1: here in the first place, all these things. But one
[6:21] Speaker 1: of the things that I always am excited about someone
[6:26] Speaker 1: new coming up, because Sean's going to teach them pretty
[6:28] Speaker 1: much everything they need to know about wrestling, psychology.
[6:30] Speaker 2: Yes, you will.
[6:31] Speaker 1: You're going to get so much tarry about finishes. I mean,
[6:34] Speaker 1: there's just a unique spectrum and cornucopia of advice there.
[6:39] Speaker 1: But one of my things that I know is not
[6:41] Speaker 1: taught necessarily, and when they come up, I can be
[6:44] Speaker 1: the one to be like, hey, it's time management when
[6:47] Speaker 1: it comes to how SmackDown and Raw work. Because it
[6:50] Speaker 1: is terrifying. You get there, and it's Tommy or Kusama,
[6:57] Speaker 1: We're doing your walk in 30 minutes. And as soon
[7:00] Speaker 1: as your walk's in, can you be at the ring?
[7:02] Speaker 1: You're late for your rehearsal, which you booked the walk.
[7:04] Speaker 1: How am I late for the rehearsal? And that, you know,
[7:07] Speaker 1: just they have a job to do. So you can't
[7:10] Speaker 1: get mad at them. But then also you're trying to
[7:13] Speaker 1: focus on the content. I'm going to deliver this unbelievable promo.
[7:16] Speaker 1: I'm going to do something physically impressive. And I feel
[7:20] Speaker 1: that's where I've seen you. You're excelling at this so far.
[7:24] Speaker 1: And what you've done is it's hard. To get it
[7:27] Speaker 1: all to where you don't want to feel like you overcame.
[7:31] Speaker 1: You want to feel like you were fully prepared. You
[7:33] Speaker 1: feel like you're fully prepared?
[7:36] Speaker 2: I feel like I'm as prepared as I can be.
[7:39] Speaker 2: I've had so much experience. I've had so many teachers.
[7:43] Speaker 2: And I feel like they always say you're never going
[7:46] Speaker 2: to be 100% ready, but I feel like I'm as
[7:49] Speaker 2: ready as I can be now given everything that I've
[7:52] Speaker 2: gone through and everything that I've learned.
[7:54] Speaker 1: Well, when you're 100% ready, things like what happened to
[7:56] Speaker 1: me at WrestleMania happened where you just pull your tights
[7:59] Speaker 1: up just an extra and the knee completely rips. That's
[8:04] Speaker 1: what I feel like. Whenever you're 100% ready, that's curveball city.
[8:08] Speaker 1: That lately has been my whole career, but that's a
[8:11] Speaker 1: very good way to look at it. You talk about
[8:14] Speaker 1: JC and training. This is 10 years ago, getting into
[8:17] Speaker 1: the industry. Yep. Walk me through it, your journey. How
[8:21] Speaker 1: do you get here?
[8:22] Speaker 2: It was a long journey. Yeah. It was a long
[8:24] Speaker 2: one to say the least. But yeah, I think it
[8:27] Speaker 2: was like 2016, I want to say.
[8:29] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[8:30] Speaker 2: Started training at a school. JC was there as well.
[8:33] Speaker 2: I ended up moving somewhere. So I worked, I was
[8:36] Speaker 2: in college at the time. I worked at a gym,
[8:40] Speaker 2: and one of the personal trainers there was actually a wrestler.
[8:45] Speaker 1: Okay.
[8:46] Speaker 2: She only had like a small class of people.
[8:48] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[8:50] Speaker 2: But she was doing training, and she had just brought
[8:52] Speaker 2: a couple new students in, and I got linked up
[8:54] Speaker 2: with her, and she was like 20 minutes from my house,
[8:56] Speaker 2: so it was perfect versus like an hour drive, hour
[8:59] Speaker 2: and a half drive that I was making before.
[9:01] Speaker 1: Where is this? Where was this at?
[9:02] Speaker 2: This was... Over in like Tampa area.
[9:05] Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha, gotcha. Brandon.
[9:06] Speaker 2: Lexi Fife, Bonnie Maxson.
[9:08] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[9:08] Speaker 2: Bonnie Maxson was like my main... She's my wrestling mom
[9:13] Speaker 2: through and through. Lexi Fife, Mercedes Martinez. They all helped
[9:19] Speaker 2: me start in this journey. So I did the indies
[9:24] Speaker 2: for a while. I was always... I never hit them
[9:28] Speaker 2: as hard as I wish I did because by the
[9:30] Speaker 2: time I started to and I figured out the flow
[9:32] Speaker 2: and because it's intimidating, you know, there's a lot that
[9:36] Speaker 2: goes into it. A lot of conversations, constant different people.
[9:41] Speaker 2: So as soon as I hit the ground running, I
[9:43] Speaker 2: ended up having to get shoulder surgery. Nothing crazy, just
[9:48] Speaker 2: some bone removal. But that put me out for about
[9:50] Speaker 2: like a year and then COVID hit that put me
[9:52] Speaker 2: out for about a year. had some other work that
[9:55] Speaker 2: helped me get back into wrestling and everything again. Um,
[9:59] Speaker 2: and I think before that I had a tryout in,
[10:04] Speaker 2: what was it? 2019. I want to say, I think
[10:07] Speaker 2: it was like, I had three tryouts total.
[10:10] Speaker 1: Okay.
[10:10] Speaker 2: So I had one, I think it was like 2019,
[10:12] Speaker 2: 2020 and the 2021. I think it was back to
[10:14] Speaker 2: back to back if I remember correctly. My first one
[10:19] Speaker 2: was actually with Jade and Ivy Nile. So that was
[10:23] Speaker 2: really cool. I watched them grow. Ivy Nile is one
[10:26] Speaker 2: of my close friends now. And then I think the
[10:29] Speaker 2: second tryout I had, it was like in the midst
[10:31] Speaker 2: of COVID. So it was very, very small. I think
[10:34] Speaker 2: there was like 10 of us, 12 of us. It
[10:36] Speaker 2: was just girls. I think that was the one that
[10:39] Speaker 2: Tiffany got signed off of actually. And then what was it?
[10:44] Speaker 2: the very first taping of NXT where they finally brought
[10:48] Speaker 2: extras back in. Because over my whole career, I was
[10:51] Speaker 2: always doing extra work, whether it was up in Raw.
[10:54] Speaker 2: You saw me. Raw, I did tons of NXT extra work.
[11:00] Speaker 2: And in the very first taping they had that they
[11:04] Speaker 2: brought extras back, I had an enhancement match with Elektra Lopez.
[11:09] Speaker 2: And everything went great. Everybody was happy. So at the PC,
[11:13] Speaker 2: sometimes they'll do like PC live weeks where it's just
[11:19] Speaker 2: practice matches, practice shows every single day. So that was
[11:22] Speaker 2: one of those weeks that I came in for. And
[11:24] Speaker 2: a lot of times when those tryouts happen, like extended
[11:28] Speaker 2: tryouts is what they call them. Normally it's like a
[11:31] Speaker 2: group of people. So it's like, you know, four people
[11:34] Speaker 2: or so. I was by myself. Luckily I knew people,
[11:38] Speaker 2: you know, so it wasn't as scary, but at the
[11:40] Speaker 2: end of the day, I'm not signed. I'm by myself.
[11:42] Speaker 2: I'm trying to get here. So we do the first day.
[11:46] Speaker 2: I have a match. Goes great. Second day is a
[11:49] Speaker 2: TV taping. Hey, I think we're going to have you
[11:51] Speaker 2: come back in December for a tryout. In my head,
[11:54] Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my gosh. I must be doing something wrong.
[11:57] Speaker 2: This will be the fourth tryout. There's no way. And
[12:01] Speaker 2: I'm like, you know what? Whatever. I'm here. I'm just
[12:04] Speaker 2: going to bust my ass the rest of the week,
[12:07] Speaker 2: prove myself, and I'll come back and I'll do the
[12:10] Speaker 2: fourth tryout. No problem. Well, finish the week. Don't really
[12:15] Speaker 2: hear anything. And about two weeks later, I get the call.
[12:19] Speaker 2: Do you want to be an NXT superstar?
[12:20] Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
[12:21] Speaker 2: And it was like six o'clock on a Friday. Yeah.
[12:24] Speaker 2: I'm just hanging out. And I'm like, hmm. I'm like,
[12:28] Speaker 2: random number's calling me. Like, oh my gosh. I'm like,
[12:31] Speaker 2: it's Connecticut. I'm like, I don't know anybody in Connecticut.
[12:33] Speaker 1: 203, huh? Yep. 203, gotcha.
[12:35] Speaker 2: I'm like, do I answer it? Because like, you know,
[12:38] Speaker 2: we never answer phone numbers that we don't know, especially
[12:40] Speaker 2: with spam nowadays.
[12:41] Speaker 1: It's very smart.
[12:43] Speaker 2: You never know what you're going to pick up to.
[12:45] Speaker 2: So I'm like, all right, I'm going to answer it.
[12:47] Speaker 2: So I answer it, and it was the call. So
[12:51] Speaker 2: it was a long journey to get there, but it
[12:55] Speaker 2: always makes it more worth it in the end.
[12:57] Speaker 1: Of course. Here we are. We're on the journey to
[13:00] Speaker 1: you being ultimately where you are now. 2021, your life
[13:04] Speaker 1: dramatically changes in terms of perspective.
[13:06] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[13:07] Speaker 1: And walk me through that.
[13:09] Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's kind of crazy. Kind of happened out
[13:12] Speaker 2: of nowhere. I have twin sisters who are no longer
[13:15] Speaker 2: with us. The first one passed during that year. And
[13:19] Speaker 2: that was right before I got the call to do
[13:24] Speaker 2: the extra work that started back up that got me
[13:26] Speaker 2: my third tryout before my enhancement match with Elektra. It
[13:32] Speaker 2: was a really hard time. Like I said, it kind
[13:33] Speaker 2: of came out of nowhere. Essentially, all of her organs...
[13:37] Speaker 2: shut down. She got rushed to the hospital. And before
[13:42] Speaker 2: we knew it, she was gone. And she left behind
[13:49] Speaker 2: her two daughters that were still living with her and
[13:51] Speaker 2: her son. They had lost their dad, I want to
[13:55] Speaker 2: say a year or two before then. So they've had
[13:58] Speaker 2: a very Very hard, you know, beginning of life. But
[14:04] Speaker 2: I was over in Tampa, and that's where they had
[14:07] Speaker 2: been living at the time. And the only options they
[14:09] Speaker 2: really had were to go to Michigan to be with
[14:12] Speaker 2: my mom, go to California to be with one of
[14:15] Speaker 2: my other sisters, or come and stay with me. I
[14:19] Speaker 2: had a two-bedroom apartment at the time, so I brought
[14:21] Speaker 2: them in. They shared one of the rooms. I took
[14:24] Speaker 2: the smaller one. I think they were like... 16 and 17.
[14:31] Speaker 2: So one had to still finish high school and the
[14:35] Speaker 2: other one was just starting college. So kind of a
[14:41] Speaker 2: big change for what was I at the time, 22
[14:44] Speaker 2: or something, um, taking in these two teenage girls who
[14:49] Speaker 2: for my sake were extremely well behaved and mature and
[14:54] Speaker 2: given the life that they had gone through and all
[14:57] Speaker 2: the hardships that they had gone through. Um, so when
[15:00] Speaker 2: I got that call to do the extra work, I
[15:05] Speaker 2: mentally was not in a place where I thought I
[15:09] Speaker 2: could do it.
[15:09] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[15:11] Speaker 2: And I almost said no. And had I said no,
[15:17] Speaker 2: I wouldn't be here right now. I wouldn't be on SmackDown.
[15:19] Speaker 2: I wouldn't be doing any of the things that I'm doing. Um,
[15:24] Speaker 2: And I think that was like a little piece of
[15:26] Speaker 2: my sister kind of kicking me and telling me to
[15:30] Speaker 2: go do it because she knew how much I wanted this.
[15:32] Speaker 2: And she was probably Heather and Heidi were the twins
[15:37] Speaker 2: and they were probably my biggest supporters ever. So a
[15:43] Speaker 2: lot of what I'm working for now is for them.
[15:48] Speaker 1: And the girls are doing well.
[15:50] Speaker 2: They're doing amazing.
[15:51] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[15:52] Speaker 2: Yeah, the younger one, Tabby, she just started a full-time
[15:55] Speaker 2: job actually taking one of my sister's full-time jobs that
[16:00] Speaker 2: she had had. So she kind of stepped into her
[16:02] Speaker 2: shoes for that role. And then the older one, Julia,
[16:07] Speaker 2: she is now in nursing school.
[16:09] Speaker 1: What do they think of where you're at?
[16:12] Speaker 2: They're head over heels for me. Because they watched, they
[16:17] Speaker 2: were with me for a lot of my journey up
[16:20] Speaker 2: until that point. So they had seen how hard I
[16:24] Speaker 2: had been working, doing, you know, other extra work in
[16:27] Speaker 2: the indies and other things like that. So when I
[16:30] Speaker 2: was able to finally get there, it was just, we
[16:35] Speaker 2: were all just happy.
[16:37] Speaker 1: That, uh, thank you for sharing that. Uh, and I,
[16:43] Speaker 1: I didn't, I didn't know. And certainly, uh, like you said,
[16:47] Speaker 1: maybe it's, maybe it's your sister, but I'm glad that
[16:50] Speaker 1: you went through with it.
[16:51] Speaker 2: And, uh, Me too. So it's just happy everything worked
[16:56] Speaker 2: out in the way it did. Because like I said,
[16:58] Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of what I do now
[17:01] Speaker 2: is for them because they were always my biggest cheerleaders
[17:03] Speaker 2: before I even decided what I wanted to do with
[17:07] Speaker 2: my life. No matter what, like every time I saw them,
[17:10] Speaker 2: they were just pumping me up, telling me to follow
[17:13] Speaker 2: my dreams and do whatever I wanted. Even if maybe
[17:16] Speaker 2: my parents thought that I was silly for chasing something
[17:19] Speaker 2: that seemed out of reach, they were always the ones
[17:22] Speaker 2: to Tell me to keep sticking with it.
[17:25] Speaker 1: You hear a lot about the why. Why are we
[17:27] Speaker 1: out there that night? Why are we out there doing
[17:29] Speaker 1: this promo? Why is these two guys or two girls fighting?
[17:32] Speaker 1: But the why behind the why is the most important thing.
[17:37] Speaker 1: Thank you again.
[17:38] Speaker 2: Yeah, of course.
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[18:50] Speaker 2: Yes.
[18:51] Speaker 1: I actually am very curious about this. Elsewhere, you were
[18:54] Speaker 1: doing extra work.
[18:54] Speaker 2: I was.
[18:55] Speaker 1: And I was there in my executive role and wrestling
[18:58] Speaker 1: and all those things. Did we interact much?
[19:01] Speaker 2: I don't know, man. There's a really specific conversation.
[19:04] Speaker 1: Yes, it is. Well, I need to clarify something on
[19:07] Speaker 1: this specific conversation. Because you brought something up to me
[19:09] Speaker 1: and then I thought, am I misremembering this? It was Arby's.
[19:14] Speaker 2: Okay. This pops me every time because you would always
[19:19] Speaker 2: say rallies, but it was Arby's, but it was always Arby's.
[19:21] Speaker 2: And for some reason it would always make me mad
[19:23] Speaker 2: that you would say Arby's, but, or say rallies when
[19:25] Speaker 2: it was Arby's.
[19:26] Speaker 1: But you wouldn't be eating rallies.
[19:28] Speaker 2: No.
[19:29] Speaker 1: All right. So the story goes fair enough. Fair enough.
[19:32] Speaker 1: And listen, I, that's understandable. Arby's acceptable.
[19:35] Speaker 2: Honestly, I don't even think I've ever had rallies.
[19:37] Speaker 1: Well, oh, and rallies is, uh, for those who don't
[19:40] Speaker 1: know is also like checkers. It's, uh, who's who knows
[19:44] Speaker 1: about rallies in here national no well i'm the only
[19:49] Speaker 1: one it's a south thing huh well all right well
[19:54] Speaker 1: we were in the south kind of but anyways so
[19:56] Speaker 1: uh you were working there you were doing some extra
[19:59] Speaker 1: work and it was covid bubble kind of.
[20:02] Speaker 2: Covid bubble like the end of the covid.
[20:04] Speaker 1: End of it there's all a lot of us uh
[20:06] Speaker 1: in the hotel and i had a Workplace proximity associate,
[20:11] Speaker 1: Aaron Solo. He often talked about you very fondly and
[20:14] Speaker 1: very sincerely. He's, oh, she's so pretty and she's really
[20:18] Speaker 1: smart and then this whole thing. And finally, he didn't
[20:21] Speaker 1: talk a lot, if you remember. He's very not- He's
[20:25] Speaker 1: like a mute. Not Mr. Personality, right? Yeah. Yeah, I often,
[20:29] Speaker 1: the last time I saw him, I reintroduced myself to
[20:31] Speaker 1: him because that's how limited our conversations have become over
[20:35] Speaker 1: the years. But I think we're kind of friends anyways.
[20:39] Speaker 1: He had said so much that finally we all just
[20:41] Speaker 1: were like, well, you should talk to her. This is
[20:43] Speaker 1: a basic common. You learned this in high school. You
[20:46] Speaker 1: learned this before. You should say something to her. You
[20:48] Speaker 1: should say hello. You should ask her if she wants
[20:50] Speaker 1: to hang out. You should do anything, anything other than
[20:54] Speaker 1: talk to us about it. And we were all sitting
[20:57] Speaker 1: right adjacent to the elevators, Marriott, Jacksonville, Florida. And it's
[21:01] Speaker 1: important because the way I remember the story with the
[21:04] Speaker 1: correct food being Arby's, but you walked in. And you
[21:09] Speaker 1: had a bit of a social club there, I felt.
[21:12] Speaker 1: There was a group that was always together. It was
[21:15] Speaker 1: a good crew. And you guys always seemed to be
[21:17] Speaker 1: in good spirits, which was nice for me because my
[21:21] Speaker 1: time there was up and down. And you walked in
[21:24] Speaker 1: and you had a bag of Arby's. And he literally
[21:28] Speaker 1: nudged me and he goes, I'm going to go say
[21:32] Speaker 1: hi to her. I'm going to go. I'm going to
[21:33] Speaker 1: do it. And I thought, great. Do it. Here he goes.
[21:38] Speaker 1: Now we're watching and we're not roasting him. We're not
[21:41] Speaker 1: giving him a hard time. We are sincerely looking, hoping.
[21:45] Speaker 1: Hope this goes well. No one is making fun of him,
[21:47] Speaker 1: which is normally what guys I feel like would do
[21:49] Speaker 1: to each other. And you walk past, so he missed
[21:52] Speaker 1: that first opportunity. And then it's even weirder now because
[21:55] Speaker 1: he trails you to the elevator and you have a group.
[21:57] Speaker 1: So it's not looking good. And you turn and you
[22:01] Speaker 1: smiled at him. You were very nice.
[22:03] Speaker 2: I like to think I'm a nice person.
[22:04] Speaker 3: Yes.
[22:05] Speaker 1: And then he just looked at you and he said, Arby's, huh?
[22:10] Speaker 1: And you went and I feel like I could hear
[22:14] Speaker 1: you say it because we were far away at this point.
[22:16] Speaker 1: And then I just heard, yeah. And then the- The
[22:20] Speaker 1: elevator doors shut in my story and you went away.
[22:24] Speaker 1: And then he came back to us as if, why
[22:29] Speaker 1: would you even walk back to us? Walk to your car,
[22:33] Speaker 1: drive away, leave this city. Don't ever come. You like,
[22:37] Speaker 1: that's all that talk. So like a month of, of buildup,
[22:41] Speaker 1: all that for, for that moment. Arby's huh? Real, really.
[22:45] Speaker 1: But that he, he, he shot his shot, I suppose.
[22:48] Speaker 1: And that was it. And, you know, nice guy.
[22:52] Speaker 2: Very nice.
[22:52] Speaker 3: Right?
[22:53] Speaker 2: Very nice.
[22:53] Speaker 1: Nice guy. Did you have any interaction after that? Or
[22:56] Speaker 1: was it just that story that bonded you? Because I
[22:59] Speaker 1: think I brought it up to both of you at
[23:01] Speaker 1: one point.
[23:01] Speaker 2: You did. Bring it up every time you saw me.
[23:04] Speaker 1: I do, yeah. Yes.
[23:05] Speaker 2: You still do?
[23:06] Speaker 1: It was a significant moment.
[23:07] Speaker 2: It's pretty funny.
[23:08] Speaker 1: I needed it at the time.
[23:10] Speaker 2: It was good.
[23:10] Speaker 1: Yes, okay.
[23:11] Speaker 2: But no, I don't think there was ever any interaction passed.
[23:14] Speaker 1: So you feel I probably, now that we're doing this
[23:18] Speaker 1: podcast together, you're on SmackDown, you're cruising, I probably should,
[23:22] Speaker 1: we should get a new story.
[23:24] Speaker 2: I think we should find a new story.
[23:25] Speaker 1: I think you're right. We should get a new story.
[23:26] Speaker 1: But I really was excited. I don't think I've ever
[23:29] Speaker 1: seen any male or woman drop the ball He never
[23:33] Speaker 1: even had the ball. Like, I've never seen anything like it.
[23:37] Speaker 1: God bless Aaron Solo. What a disaster. Well, yeah. So
[23:41] Speaker 1: our new story, SmackDown.
[23:43] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[23:45] Speaker 1: Ultimately, you, the group, however you look at it, I
[23:49] Speaker 1: feel like something I learned from Cena a long time
[23:52] Speaker 1: ago was the why. Why are we doing this? Why
[23:55] Speaker 1: are we doing this promo? Why, why, why? It also
[23:59] Speaker 1: can kind of equate to the goals in terms of
[24:01] Speaker 1: what you want to do. Mm-hmm. What's the goal for
[24:04] Speaker 1: Fatal Influence? What's the goal for you this first year,
[24:06] Speaker 1: this first if you're a goal type person? Yeah.
[24:10] Speaker 2: So I think for us, it's just taking over everything,
[24:16] Speaker 2: running everything. I mean, when we were in NXT, we
[24:19] Speaker 2: ran NXT for almost two years. So I think as
[24:24] Speaker 2: a group, we just want to run everything.
[24:27] Speaker 1: Run it all.
[24:27] Speaker 2: Run shit.
[24:28] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[24:28] Speaker 2: That's our goal. Take over everything.
[24:30] Speaker 1: Three hours.
[24:31] Speaker 2: Dominate everything. Yeah.
[24:33] Speaker 1: Can I tell you something from my perspective as someone
[24:35] Speaker 1: on SmackDown?
[24:36] Speaker 2: I suppose.
[24:36] Speaker 1: Secretly, I would love that. Because, you know, there's a
[24:42] Speaker 1: lot of segments. And you have those days when you
[24:44] Speaker 1: get there and they're like, all right, so seg one arrival,
[24:46] Speaker 1: seg one promo. Sega 16 is going to be the match,
[24:50] Speaker 1: but then there's all these other ones. Again, time management.
[24:53] Speaker 1: Here's Tommy. Here's Kusama. Here's the new guy, Zane, from
[24:57] Speaker 1: the writing crew. Like, you got to do this warm-up,
[24:59] Speaker 1: and it's sponsored by Goo Goo Gaga. We got to,
[25:02] Speaker 1: you know, just something that's like, it's a contractual deal,
[25:05] Speaker 1: and I didn't know. And what do I wear? Am
[25:08] Speaker 1: I in gear yet? Oh, no, it's five seconds before
[25:10] Speaker 1: your match. It's just a whole lot of stress. So, yeah,
[25:14] Speaker 1: run it.
[25:14] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[25:15] Speaker 1: Yeah, go. Run it.
[25:16] Speaker 2: That's the goal.
[25:16] Speaker 1: I think that's a great goal is running it. The
[25:21] Speaker 1: cowboy boots, the belt buckle, do you feel authentically that
[25:25] Speaker 1: you are a cowgirl?
[25:26] Speaker 2: At heart.
[25:27] Speaker 1: Yeah?
[25:28] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[25:28] Speaker 1: Modern or always grew up that way?
[25:31] Speaker 2: A little bit of both.
[25:32] Speaker 1: Yeah?
[25:33] Speaker 2: Mostly modern, but I grew up in a really small town. Yeah. Like...
[25:38] Speaker 2: My driveway was a half mile back into the woods.
[25:41] Speaker 2: You could not see anything around you. You could not
[25:43] Speaker 2: hear anything around you. Behind the woods was cornfields on cornfields.
[25:48] Speaker 2: I grew up riding horses.
[25:49] Speaker 1: Oh, so you're automatically cowgirl cowboy. You're in. Riding horses
[25:54] Speaker 1: does it.
[25:55] Speaker 2: Absolutely.
[25:55] Speaker 1: There's a wrestler. I'm not going to name names because
[25:57] Speaker 1: he's gigantic. He's retired, and he wears a hat. And
[26:02] Speaker 1: I remember when I was wrestling him, I kind of thought,
[26:05] Speaker 1: are you? And he technically, yes. Cause he worked with cattle.
[26:10] Speaker 1: So that, that's all you need. Riding horses, cattle, some
[26:14] Speaker 1: sort of thing, agriculture, I guess, based or equestrian based something,
[26:19] Speaker 1: but okay. So grew up riding horses.
[26:21] Speaker 2: Yeah. My horse, um, I leased a horse. His name
[26:25] Speaker 2: was Edwin for a really long time. And then my
[26:28] Speaker 2: horse that I owned, his name was Oliver.
[26:30] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[26:31] Speaker 2: It was an X race horse. I did a lot of, um,
[26:35] Speaker 2: English riding and.
[26:36] Speaker 1: Competitions, um, What is English riding?
[26:39] Speaker 2: So there's two different styles of riding. There's English. I mean,
[26:42] Speaker 2: there's more than this, but there's English and there's Western.
[26:44] Speaker 2: Western is going to be more my modern day. And
[26:48] Speaker 2: English is a little bit more prim and proper. So
[26:52] Speaker 2: Western's all the barrel racing, bull riding, all that stuff.
[26:56] Speaker 2: And then English is going to be like your show jumping, dressage,
[27:01] Speaker 2: cross country.
[27:02] Speaker 1: Dressage.
[27:03] Speaker 2: Dressage.
[27:03] Speaker 1: Dressage is when we got our horses kind of bucking
[27:05] Speaker 1: back and forth, right?
[27:06] Speaker 2: Like they're doing a dance. They're dancing.
[27:09] Speaker 1: You've seen the famous Snoop Dogg going over the dressage clip. Yes. Yeah.
[27:13] Speaker 1: That's like, yeah. Cause he's crip walking the one horse. Yeah. Uh, okay.
[27:17] Speaker 1: So you were on that side of the, the English riding. Yes.
[27:20] Speaker 2: More so. I did both, but mostly, mostly English.
[27:23] Speaker 1: That's how long did you do this?
[27:26] Speaker 2: For probably like five years.
[27:29] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Any horses now?
[27:31] Speaker 2: No, unfortunately not. That's, A goal of mine?
[27:34] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[27:35] Speaker 2: I definitely want, you know, in the future, I want
[27:39] Speaker 2: to have a farm. I want to have horses. I
[27:40] Speaker 2: want to have goats. I want to have chickens. I
[27:42] Speaker 2: want to have land. I want all the things. So
[27:44] Speaker 2: that's definitely something I want to get back to because
[27:47] Speaker 2: I miss it a ton. I miss it so much.
[27:51] Speaker 1: If you had a new horse, I mean, this is
[27:52] Speaker 1: an on-the-spot question, obviously. Your horse is going to probably
[27:57] Speaker 1: inspire something differently. But this future goal horse of yours,
[27:59] Speaker 1: what would you name it? Well, here's my whole thing
[28:04] Speaker 1: as I ask you this question. I'm playing this game,
[28:06] Speaker 1: Ghost of Tsushima, on PlayStation. I've played it like 60,000 times.
[28:11] Speaker 1: Nothing pisses me off more than you can't name your horse.
[28:14] Speaker 1: You have to pick from the names. And the names
[28:17] Speaker 1: all suck. And my horse is named Nobu, and he's cool,
[28:20] Speaker 1: and I respect Nobu. But it's like, come on. I
[28:23] Speaker 1: want to put my own spin.
[28:24] Speaker 2: On this, right?
[28:25] Speaker 1: I want to put my own spin.
[28:25] Speaker 3: All right, all right.
[28:27] Speaker 1: Hmm, I don't know.
[28:28] Speaker 2: Because I feel like when you pick a name... it
[28:31] Speaker 2: goes with the personality. It goes with the look of
[28:34] Speaker 2: the horse. So like to just pull something out, I
[28:36] Speaker 2: would just be making something up.
[28:38] Speaker 1: Your horse knowledge. Do you know all the different breeds
[28:41] Speaker 1: of horses? Um, let me hold up, hold up. So
[28:45] Speaker 1: I had to read this thing when I was younger
[28:46] Speaker 1: cause my dad was so into horses and all this color,
[28:50] Speaker 1: but the different color and the dapple was a word
[28:53] Speaker 1: you kept seeing and all, you know, like, and the
[28:55] Speaker 1: only time I ever thought, I'm glad I knew any
[28:58] Speaker 1: of this. was, again, when I played Red Dead Redemption,
[29:01] Speaker 1: of all things. Because it's like, oh, that's a good horse.
[29:03] Speaker 1: You want that Arabian. That's a good horse. It gives
[29:05] Speaker 1: a really strange outlook on it. But OK, you knew
[29:09] Speaker 1: these horses. You knew them all. Yes.
[29:10] Speaker 2: I mean, all the markings have different names. The markings
[29:13] Speaker 2: on the face, the markings on the legs.
[29:15] Speaker 1: Yeah. You're not the only cowgirl in the wrestling space. You,
[29:21] Speaker 1: Mickie James?
[29:22] Speaker 2: Absolutely.
[29:23] Speaker 1: Yeah? Tell me about it.
[29:24] Speaker 2: One of the nicest humans I think I've ever met.
[29:27] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[29:27] Speaker 2: Just always so sweet, always so helpful. Like she was
[29:31] Speaker 2: coming to NXT for a while when she was doing
[29:33] Speaker 2: the LFG show. and every time I saw her it
[29:36] Speaker 2: was just tons of hugs lots of advice complimenting everything
[29:42] Speaker 2: like she's just sweet as pie like it's sickening how
[29:47] Speaker 2: sweet she is.
[29:48] Speaker 1: I like that can be you know some people it's
[29:51] Speaker 1: too much but I she was the same way at
[29:53] Speaker 1: OVW and she was actually just breaking in this is
[29:56] Speaker 1: like post the moment with her and Trish happening and
[29:59] Speaker 1: all that post that, but she was still just young
[30:01] Speaker 1: herself and she was incredibly helpful.
[30:03] Speaker 2: Because I think that's the thing is like, you said
[30:06] Speaker 2: it can be too much sometimes, but I think it's
[30:08] Speaker 2: too much when it's not genuine. And for her, she's
[30:12] Speaker 2: just a straight up genuine person, no matter what she's doing,
[30:15] Speaker 2: where she is.
[30:16] Speaker 1: Yeah. Is there a current locker room leader in the,
[30:19] Speaker 1: I mean, you're, again, you're coming in a group of three. Yes.
[30:22] Speaker 1: Going to be a little heat on you naturally, which
[30:24] Speaker 1: is a good thing. As Michael Hayes told me many
[30:26] Speaker 1: years ago, too much heat is not good though, apparently. Uh,
[30:29] Speaker 1: but yes, you've got each other. Is there someone in
[30:32] Speaker 1: our current locker room or on SmackDown that you look
[30:34] Speaker 1: to at least look to or model anything after or
[30:37] Speaker 1: like what they've presented? You named a bunch of people
[30:40] Speaker 1: off the top, all people that you're going to mix
[30:42] Speaker 1: up and be in the ring with already are. Yes. Um,
[30:44] Speaker 1: is there someone who leads, leads that gang? I've seen,
[30:47] Speaker 1: and I feel like again, Pam Bailey is, is incredibly,
[30:53] Speaker 1: she seems to have that same thing that Mickey has a,
[30:56] Speaker 1: It's all about leading to the next, the next generation
[31:00] Speaker 1: and what she's doing with her camps and all that.
[31:02] Speaker 1: Who you got?
[31:03] Speaker 2: For SmackDown, it's really hard for me to name one
[31:07] Speaker 2: person when it comes to these things because I feel
[31:10] Speaker 2: like everybody plays their part in guiding everybody through this
[31:14] Speaker 2: because at the end of the day, we all work together.
[31:17] Speaker 2: And we're all a team as much as we're not.
[31:21] Speaker 2: We're all in competition, but we all work together. So
[31:24] Speaker 2: I think... The locker room has been really great. Everybody's
[31:28] Speaker 2: been super nice, super supportive. You know, obviously they have
[31:33] Speaker 2: to watch their backs, but I think collectively it's just incredible.
[31:37] Speaker 2: And it's really insane because I think about when I
[31:40] Speaker 2: first got into wrestling because I was never somebody who
[31:44] Speaker 2: watched it growing up. I didn't have friends that watched it.
[31:46] Speaker 2: My family didn't watch it. It's something I found when
[31:49] Speaker 2: I was in college. I didn't know what the hell
[31:51] Speaker 2: I wanted to do with my life. I ended up
[31:53] Speaker 2: getting a degree in criminology and business. What I was
[31:57] Speaker 2: going to do with that. I don't know. Um, but
[32:00] Speaker 2: when I was, you know, lost trying to find what
[32:03] Speaker 2: I wanted to do, I found wrestling. And during that time,
[32:07] Speaker 2: you know, black and gold was really big. So, um, man,
[32:11] Speaker 2: it was, you have the, the Bailey's, the Alexa's, the
[32:14] Speaker 2: Charlotte's like seeing all of those people. And then now
[32:18] Speaker 2: being on the same roster as them, it's, it's insane.
[32:21] Speaker 2: So it's just, it's just incredible. Cause I never would
[32:25] Speaker 2: have thought that when I decided I wanted to wrestle,
[32:28] Speaker 2: I really didn't think I was going to make it
[32:29] Speaker 2: this far.
[32:30] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[32:30] Speaker 1: When you're, when you're across from somebody that you felt
[32:32] Speaker 1: you were a fan of or watched, do you, where
[32:36] Speaker 1: are you at in at all? I know that for
[32:37] Speaker 1: me personally, I have now, I'm in a lot of
[32:41] Speaker 1: rooms where I'm impressed with someone in that room, but
[32:47] Speaker 1: I'm also 40 and I, that point in my career,
[32:50] Speaker 1: I always have to remind myself, and sometimes I literally
[32:53] Speaker 1: have to say it under my breath, hey, I'm meant
[32:55] Speaker 1: to be here. I'm meant to be here. Yeah, you're
[32:58] Speaker 1: my favorite wrestler ever. I just had a conversation with
[33:01] Speaker 1: Jimmy Hart. Yeah, all that, but also what can I
[33:04] Speaker 1: do for you? And it seems like the energy you
[33:07] Speaker 1: guys have brought is very, you're not starstruck by anybody. Again,
[33:10] Speaker 1: these are all people you admire, but that's the greatest
[33:12] Speaker 1: thing in wrestling is the real, you mentioned, we're a team,
[33:17] Speaker 1: but it's a competition. And If that, if you, I
[33:21] Speaker 1: don't know what the word is for it, whether it's
[33:23] Speaker 1: collaborative or, but my biggest competitors at WWE are, I'm
[33:30] Speaker 1: huge fans of theirs, but I'm not giving them that.
[33:32] Speaker 1: I'm not conceding that to them. Not in these moments,
[33:35] Speaker 1: at least, you know, like you, what are you doing
[33:37] Speaker 1: for me? What am I doing for you? I don't know.
[33:38] Speaker 1: It's a whole, it seems like you guys, you guys
[33:42] Speaker 1: very much are not starstruck by anybody there. If that
[33:46] Speaker 1: makes sense.
[33:48] Speaker 2: I think yes and no. I think when it's game time,
[33:51] Speaker 2: it doesn't matter who's standing in front of me. You're
[33:54] Speaker 2: the target. But at the end of the day, when
[33:57] Speaker 2: you go home, it's like, okay, it's cool.
[34:00] Speaker 1: Cool moment. Yeah.
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[34:37] Speaker 1: You're talking about watching black and gold. Did you have
[34:39] Speaker 1: a favorite wrestler finally? And a lot of times I,
[34:42] Speaker 1: I found this with OVW when I went there, everyone assumed, Oh,
[34:45] Speaker 1: is Dusty's kids. So Dusty's favorite wrestler or he's already
[34:48] Speaker 1: been trained, which I hadn't been trained at all. I
[34:52] Speaker 1: was in love with wrestling, but I fell deeper in
[34:56] Speaker 1: love with wrestling when I start for sort of doing
[34:59] Speaker 1: it myself and figuring these things out and moments are
[35:01] Speaker 1: happening for me. And Oh, they told me to do
[35:03] Speaker 1: this and I did it and it worked and that
[35:04] Speaker 1: felt good. And Oh, I can do this. And, my
[35:08] Speaker 1: favorite wrestlers would change and evolve. Did you have one as,
[35:11] Speaker 1: as you were training and as you were coming up
[35:13] Speaker 1: or through all that extra work, was there someone, a
[35:15] Speaker 1: guiding light for you or just someone that is your favorite?
[35:18] Speaker 2: I think because I was able to meet her, it
[35:22] Speaker 2: was like, I think it was, I had just started wrestling,
[35:25] Speaker 2: like just started at the wrestling school, maybe like a
[35:27] Speaker 2: few months. And it was the Dallas WrestleMania to, I
[35:33] Speaker 2: think it was 2016, 2017, somewhere around there. Um, But
[35:38] Speaker 2: I met Bailey.
[35:39] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[35:40] Speaker 2: And she came to one of the shows that we
[35:41] Speaker 2: were working at. And again, just like Mickey, so nice,
[35:46] Speaker 2: so genuine. So I think because I had that little
[35:50] Speaker 2: bit of time to connect with her, when I got
[35:53] Speaker 2: to then watch her again on TV, she was just
[35:55] Speaker 2: somebody that always stuck with me. Also, Sasha Banks. Watching
[36:01] Speaker 2: them grow.
[36:03] Speaker 1: Amazing. Yes. Yes. Because, I mean.
[36:06] Speaker 2: What they did in NXT was huge for women. Just huge.
[36:11] Speaker 2: So to be able, like, because obviously I didn't know
[36:16] Speaker 2: much about wrestling before then.
[36:18] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[36:19] Speaker 2: But when you would hear the people talk about it
[36:21] Speaker 2: and you would see the crowd and you would see
[36:23] Speaker 2: the way they were able to connect.
[36:25] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[36:25] Speaker 2: It just blossomed.
[36:28] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[36:29] Speaker 2: And because of them and because of all the women
[36:32] Speaker 2: before them, it's led us to be able to do
[36:34] Speaker 2: what we're doing now.
[36:35] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[36:35] Speaker 2: So for me, Sasha and Bailey were two really big
[36:38] Speaker 2: people that just ignited that fire.
[36:41] Speaker 1: It's a very common, what's your favorite wrestling match of
[36:43] Speaker 1: all time? At least at the Nightmare Factory, it's a
[36:45] Speaker 1: very common with our female trainees. That's the one. Yep,
[36:50] Speaker 1: that's a great one to choose from. Because that's, as
[36:53] Speaker 1: Arne Anderson would say, that's a very high-tech match, which
[36:57] Speaker 1: just meant there was athleticism in it. I'm not sure,
[37:00] Speaker 1: but he would always say they do the high-tech stuff too, but...
[37:04] Speaker 1: Are you able to watch old, old wrestling? Yes. Yeah?
[37:07] Speaker 1: Does it hold up for you?
[37:08] Speaker 2: It's just different.
[37:10] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[37:10] Speaker 2: It's just evolved. But, like, Terry... We'd watch stuff in
[37:15] Speaker 2: Terry's class.
[37:16] Speaker 1: This is Terry Taylor?
[37:17] Speaker 2: Yes, Terry Taylor.
[37:17] Speaker 1: Shout out to Terry Taylor.
[37:18] Speaker 2: But, like, he'd pull up old clips and stuff, and
[37:21] Speaker 2: it's different, yes, but there's always something that you can
[37:23] Speaker 2: take from it.
[37:24] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[37:24] Speaker 2: And I think, you know, sometimes people who... Newer people
[37:30] Speaker 2: coming in can't necessarily see it because now... Everything is
[37:34] Speaker 2: so fast, especially in NXT. It's go, go, go, go, go.
[37:37] Speaker 2: So much is happening, but there's still so much you
[37:41] Speaker 2: can take because the devil's in the details. And a
[37:44] Speaker 2: lot of the old stuff has a lot of those
[37:47] Speaker 2: details that we might pass over or maybe don't think
[37:51] Speaker 2: about going into a match. And so I think that
[37:54] Speaker 2: no matter what kind of style, what era, there's always
[37:58] Speaker 2: something you can take from it.
[38:00] Speaker 1: I think you're uniquely positioned to answer this question more
[38:02] Speaker 1: than maybe anybody who's come on this podcast. Oh, no. No,
[38:05] Speaker 1: I do because I fall into a different category of
[38:09] Speaker 1: the type of wrestling I like and the type of
[38:11] Speaker 1: wrestler I am and definitely the type of wrestler I'm becoming.
[38:15] Speaker 1: But I hate when the old-timers, I don't even know
[38:20] Speaker 1: if old-timers, OGs, luminaries, Hall of Famers.
[38:23] Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
[38:24] Speaker 1: I don't like when they explain it as if there's
[38:27] Speaker 1: only one way to do it. And they're really, and
[38:29] Speaker 1: this isn't all that, but they really push the moments
[38:32] Speaker 1: and the, the cinema and the, and that they push
[38:36] Speaker 1: the moments. And then it seems like there's almost this
[38:40] Speaker 1: punk rock rallying cry against it amongst the really young
[38:44] Speaker 1: where they're not saying, Hey, screw your moments, but we're
[38:47] Speaker 1: just going to do these really awesome moves that you
[38:49] Speaker 1: can't do. And they're going to blow the, you know,
[38:52] Speaker 1: crowds mind. And, um, I have said, I think it's
[38:57] Speaker 1: in the middle.
[38:58] Speaker 2: Yes.
[38:58] Speaker 3: Right.
[38:59] Speaker 1: Are you of the same thought that it's in the middle? Okay.
[39:01] Speaker 2: Because if you have all of this cool, awesome stuff happening,
[39:06] Speaker 2: but you have no emotional moments that somebody can connect to,
[39:11] Speaker 2: then it was just a bunch of really cool stuff.
[39:13] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[39:14] Speaker 2: If we're always doing really cool stuff, what makes it
[39:17] Speaker 2: different than the last match that went on before you?
[39:20] Speaker 1: The gentleman who trained me, he, he always used to say, uh,
[39:23] Speaker 1: it was like fireworks. He's like, you go see fireworks.
[39:25] Speaker 1: It's awesome. But you just go see fireworks once, twice
[39:29] Speaker 1: a year, maybe, or, you're impressed when they come up,
[39:31] Speaker 1: but you're not seeking actively fireworks. It's a bonus. And
[39:35] Speaker 1: that's how he used to describe overly high spot filled shows,
[39:41] Speaker 1: overly dream match filled shows because after a while there's,
[39:46] Speaker 1: the crowd can only do so much and it's almost
[39:49] Speaker 1: where your position on that card can be beneficial to
[39:51] Speaker 1: you whereas when you're in the beautiful spot of being
[39:54] Speaker 1: last but also sometimes the burden of being last of
[39:58] Speaker 1: what is there left and do I have enough of
[40:01] Speaker 1: a connection with them which at that moment that's when
[40:03] Speaker 1: you want to have that connection the most because that's
[40:05] Speaker 1: what will get you to the finish line but yeah
[40:08] Speaker 1: he used to say fireworks right now a lot of
[40:11] Speaker 1: discussion in general about your psychology at a young age
[40:15] Speaker 1: okay in terms of in the ring, is this something
[40:19] Speaker 1: that innately, some people just have it. Other people can
[40:24] Speaker 1: learn it and other people can take forever to learn it.
[40:27] Speaker 1: Speaking to NXT and coming from under Shawn Michaels and
[40:32] Speaker 1: everyone else there, is that something you picked up from
[40:35] Speaker 1: Shawn being one of the greatest in the ring ever
[40:38] Speaker 1: and to many, the greatest ever and my favorite wrestler
[40:41] Speaker 1: growing up? Is that something that comes from Shawn Michaels?
[40:43] Speaker 1: Is that something that you felt you had in your
[40:45] Speaker 1: bones already?
[40:46] Speaker 2: No, I think it definitely comes from my time in
[40:49] Speaker 2: NXT and learning under Sean because whenever we're having rehearsals,
[40:54] Speaker 2: you know, we do them a little bit more thorough
[40:58] Speaker 2: than on main roster.
[41:00] Speaker 1: I noticed.
[41:01] Speaker 2: But with that comes the ability for us to learn
[41:05] Speaker 2: like the why.
[41:06] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[41:07] Speaker 2: The why's for everything because you can tell me to
[41:09] Speaker 2: do something all day long, but if you don't tell
[41:11] Speaker 2: me the why, it's not going to stick in my brain.
[41:13] Speaker 3: Sure.
[41:13] Speaker 2: And I think that's something Sean really takes the time
[41:15] Speaker 2: to do is, especially when there's stories in the matches,
[41:21] Speaker 2: why we're doing what we're doing. Because if you don't
[41:24] Speaker 2: know the why, it just is not going to click.
[41:27] Speaker 2: So I think that's something that he was really able
[41:31] Speaker 2: to help me and the girls kind of grab onto
[41:35] Speaker 2: is the why and the how and the how to
[41:38] Speaker 2: show it. So, no, Sean is.
[41:42] Speaker 2: An unbelievable bottle of knowledge. So to be able to
[41:48] Speaker 2: have learned under him for so long, it has helped
[41:50] Speaker 2: propel me in my career tremendously.
[41:53] Speaker 1: Well, there's this famous class years ago from OVW, which
[41:56] Speaker 1: is Brock and Sina, Batista, someone else. I feel like
[42:01] Speaker 1: I'm for Randy. Oh my God. This is an unbelievable class.
[42:04] Speaker 1: I was just thinking the other day, I'm thinking we've
[42:07] Speaker 1: reentered one of these amazing classes. Cause we, we got
[42:11] Speaker 1: fatal influence. We got Oba, we got trick. Uh, Ethan
[42:15] Speaker 1: is on his way. Crybaby Ricky saints is.
[42:18] Speaker 2: Is doing stuff.
[42:19] Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And they're all hitting at once,
[42:22] Speaker 1: which is the, you don't get, I feel like as a,
[42:26] Speaker 1: as a wrestling company, you don't get that lucky that
[42:28] Speaker 1: often that this all, this all happens at once. We
[42:31] Speaker 1: talked about black and gold. We talked about Sasha and, and,
[42:33] Speaker 1: and Bailey and that specific matches Barkley's and, tearing the
[42:37] Speaker 1: house down and being a lot of people's favorite matches.
[42:40] Speaker 1: There's setting a table. And then previously to that, you
[42:44] Speaker 1: had the, the, the divas generation who was working their
[42:47] Speaker 1: tails off the natties and the Bellas. And they're, they're
[42:50] Speaker 1: trying to create a, you know, Mickey, they're trying to
[42:53] Speaker 1: set it and it's building upon building. And I think
[42:56] Speaker 1: unfairly building slower, but it's here now. And it's at
[42:59] Speaker 1: this apex that you're coming into a twofold in terms
[43:04] Speaker 1: of how do you feel about, being part of that now,
[43:08] Speaker 1: but also have you noticed that the wrestling audience is
[43:14] Speaker 1: very female, very, I mean that, and what does that
[43:18] Speaker 1: mean to you?
[43:20] Speaker 2: It's really exciting. Um, a little bit intimidating because, you know,
[43:26] Speaker 2: the groundwork was laid for it to be all the
[43:28] Speaker 2: way up here and it's up here and now that's
[43:30] Speaker 2: where I'm coming in at. So a little bit intimidating,
[43:33] Speaker 2: but very motivating. Um, to keep it going because without
[43:39] Speaker 2: everything that's been done before, I wouldn't be able to
[43:42] Speaker 2: do what I'm doing now. And I want the people
[43:44] Speaker 2: coming in after me to be able to continue to
[43:46] Speaker 2: do it. And I think the women all together have
[43:49] Speaker 2: just been killing it across the board, across all brands.
[43:51] Speaker 2: Like in NXT, the women were main eventing so often.
[43:58] Speaker 2: It was incredible. Like I, I was able to have
[44:00] Speaker 2: so many main event matches. I think it was 2025. Um,
[44:04] Speaker 2: and that was awesome. So it's, it's really cool. And
[44:09] Speaker 2: to be able to do it alongside with the people
[44:12] Speaker 2: that I watched is even cooler. And again, it's one
[44:15] Speaker 2: of those things that's just very surreal. Like if you
[44:18] Speaker 2: would have told me when I first started watching wrestling, Hey,
[44:22] Speaker 2: one day you'll, you'll be in the ring with Rebella
[44:25] Speaker 2: and Paige and Charlotte and Alexa and all these people.
[44:28] Speaker 2: I would have said no. And I am.
[44:32] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[44:32] Speaker 2: So it's just really cool. And I, I'm very grateful
[44:36] Speaker 2: to be able to do it because they have so
[44:38] Speaker 2: much knowledge that I can learn from. So to just
[44:41] Speaker 2: suck all the knowledge out of everybody and continue to
[44:44] Speaker 2: pass it along, it's.
[44:47] Speaker 1: Pretty freaking cool. You mentioned main eventing, and particularly the
[44:51] Speaker 1: Royal Rumble this past year. The Royal Rumble this past year,
[44:55] Speaker 1: I watched backstage in Saudi, and I was just watching
[44:58] Speaker 1: the Rumble go on, and I knew... Again, the Royal
[45:02] Speaker 1: Rumble is not entirely dependent on you, I guess, unless
[45:04] Speaker 1: you're winning the thing or if you're in there the
[45:06] Speaker 1: whole time. You've got your block in it. You've got
[45:08] Speaker 1: your moments. Some people pretty long, you know, they're basically
[45:12] Speaker 1: the spine of the book on it. But I knew
[45:15] Speaker 1: it would be very difficult for the men to follow.
[45:18] Speaker 1: And I could see as they got to the deeper
[45:20] Speaker 1: water of it and they got down to live and
[45:22] Speaker 1: they got down to it that this is hitting hard.
[45:28] Speaker 1: And I feel like taking it on the chin and
[45:32] Speaker 1: executing on some pretty difficult stuff, which kind of shuts
[45:35] Speaker 1: up the old-timey type who, oh, they can't pull it
[45:38] Speaker 1: off in those settings, and then they could pull it
[45:40] Speaker 1: off in those settings. But so really this year was
[45:43] Speaker 1: a prime example. Also, any time EO's been in the
[45:46] Speaker 1: ring or on– like there's big– there are cards we
[45:49] Speaker 1: have that I'll look and be very thankful for some
[45:54] Speaker 1: of the names. And EO's one that I'm always of, oh.
[45:57] Speaker 2: Io's incredible.
[45:58] Speaker 1: Incredible. And in a way, it lightens things. Like, all right,
[46:04] Speaker 1: if I blow it, they're going to be fine. Io's
[46:07] Speaker 1: gone out there and put in a shift already. She's
[46:10] Speaker 1: killed it. And I noticed, and that's why I asked
[46:12] Speaker 1: you about it, with a lot of the different meet
[46:14] Speaker 1: and greets and signings and just appearances that we're out,
[46:18] Speaker 1: all of us doing, very, very large female roles. audience,
[46:24] Speaker 1: very large. And I think that number has gone up
[46:26] Speaker 1: from years ago when they finally, you know, touted, Hey,
[46:29] Speaker 1: it's 30% or whatever. And I actually, this week did the, uh,
[46:32] Speaker 1: the Disney upfronts and ESPN and everything. And that was
[46:34] Speaker 1: a big, a big talking point. It was, Oh, we
[46:37] Speaker 1: didn't realize how many, yeah, I do you, this is crazy.
[46:42] Speaker 1: Maybe this might be a misogynistic question and I might
[46:45] Speaker 1: not know it. So call me on it. If it
[46:46] Speaker 1: is do women watching, do you, what do you think
[46:50] Speaker 1: they want? Are you, do you think they're looking for,
[46:53] Speaker 1: women main eventing, women on top of the card at WrestleMania?
[46:57] Speaker 1: Or do you think, I'm curious what the women fans watching.
[47:01] Speaker 2: I mean, I think they would all love to see it. Yeah. Like, absolutely.
[47:06] Speaker 2: But I think that's kind of the beautiful thing is like,
[47:12] Speaker 2: no matter where you put us, we're going to kill it. Yeah.
[47:15] Speaker 2: But it would definitely be cool to see us in
[47:17] Speaker 2: those spots.
[47:17] Speaker 1: Oh, no, for sure. And I feel the conversation every
[47:20] Speaker 1: year becomes... And somebody said it two years ago, the
[47:25] Speaker 1: fact that it's a discussion, and it's always a discussion,
[47:29] Speaker 1: men and women discussion, what could be it? What could
[47:31] Speaker 1: be the one? That's a really great problem to have.
[47:34] Speaker 1: And Hunter being really honest with us always about it's
[47:37] Speaker 1: the best story. The best story is going to be.
[47:40] Speaker 1: And to your point about NXT, you'll see that because
[47:44] Speaker 1: it was happening down there and now down there is
[47:46] Speaker 1: coming back. not to say up, but coming to SmackDown,
[47:48] Speaker 1: coming to Raw, coming to MMA. So you'll see it
[47:51] Speaker 1: transfer in real time, which is a really beautiful thing.
[47:54] Speaker 1: And again, it's a competition, but it's also a collaborative effort.
[47:57] Speaker 1: This is awesome.
[47:59] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[48:00] Speaker 1: You mentioned running it all, running it all. Are there
[48:03] Speaker 1: any girls on the Raw side that you feel you
[48:05] Speaker 1: want to step into the ring with?
[48:08] Speaker 2: I mean, there's so many.
[48:09] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[48:10] Speaker 2: Bayley for one.
[48:11] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[48:11] Speaker 2: Bayley's a big one.
[48:12] Speaker 1: Bayley's a, we had Bayley on the pod before. I
[48:16] Speaker 1: feel like we got to get Bailey back. Bailey's been
[48:18] Speaker 1: up to a lot of stuff.
[48:18] Speaker 3: Huh?
[48:19] Speaker 1: What's, what's Bailey's camp called? It has a unique name.
[48:22] Speaker 1: I just say her camp.
[48:24] Speaker 2: Uh, I always load, load, load stone, load stone, right?
[48:28] Speaker 1: Yeah. Cold stone, load stone.
[48:30] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[48:31] Speaker 1: Do we know why?
[48:32] Speaker 2: I don't actually know.
[48:34] Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I, I kind of was counting on you
[48:36] Speaker 1: to know why. I just know that.
[48:37] Speaker 2: I'm sure she said it, but I'm sure there's some.
[48:40] Speaker 1: Deep, insightful reason why, but that camp is amazing.
[48:43] Speaker 2: But that, but that's like, the amazing thing is just
[48:46] Speaker 2: like watching all the women help each other and bring
[48:49] Speaker 2: each other up and share the knowledge and want everybody
[48:52] Speaker 2: to succeed and do well. And like, no, it's amazing
[48:55] Speaker 2: that she's doing that. It's incredible. Not to mention how
[48:57] Speaker 2: busy her schedule is and she's still making time for.
[48:59] Speaker 1: All of that. Uh, talking about that camp. And I
[49:02] Speaker 1: feel like you, you having just been, you know, you've
[49:05] Speaker 1: been with WDB for some time, but coming up, is
[49:07] Speaker 1: there anyone out there that we don't know about? I mean,
[49:11] Speaker 1: there always is, but there are anyone you have your
[49:13] Speaker 1: eye on that's not Signed a WWE yet?
[49:16] Speaker 2: Ooh, that's a hard one.
[49:17] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[49:18] Speaker 2: That's a real hard one. i feel like i've been
[49:22] Speaker 2: in my own bubble since oh yeah coming up here
[49:26] Speaker 2: yeah i'm gonna have to you gotta.
[49:28] Speaker 1: Get out of the bubble i gotta get out of
[49:29] Speaker 1: the bubble but it's good you know what it feels good.
[49:30] Speaker 2: To be in the bubble it does feel good to
[49:32] Speaker 2: be in the bubble but.
[49:32] Speaker 1: I feel one of the biggest things i found when
[49:35] Speaker 1: i was away from here was oh You got to
[49:38] Speaker 1: get out because other places have bubbles too.
[49:41] Speaker 2: Of course.
[49:41] Speaker 1: I remember wrestling in Japan. Their bubble was we're the
[49:44] Speaker 1: only thing. Nothing else exists. And I thought, yeah, here.
[49:48] Speaker 1: But like and then I thought, hey, you know what?
[49:50] Speaker 1: The best thing would be to just not be in
[49:51] Speaker 1: any bubble.
[49:52] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[49:52] Speaker 1: Not be in any bubble. And then again, when you
[49:54] Speaker 1: go do all these things you're doing and going to
[49:56] Speaker 1: be doing with all of ESPN, doing our PLEs and
[50:00] Speaker 1: all these. you know, Fanatics Fest coming up and the
[50:02] Speaker 1: fact that we're there with the sports elite, they have
[50:06] Speaker 1: their own bubbles as well. Ours is the best bubble though.
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[51:14] Speaker 1: a single moment. Fallon, do you have a fun fact? Well, yes. Okay.
[51:21] Speaker 2: But it's about your wife.
[51:22] Speaker 1: Okay, hit me.
[51:23] Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever told you this. But it
[51:27] Speaker 2: was one of the first few times I came to
[51:30] Speaker 2: work elsewhere. I was just chatting up with her. I
[51:32] Speaker 2: think I was getting ready for my match or something,
[51:35] Speaker 2: and we were just talking. And the ice rink that
[51:40] Speaker 2: I had my first job at when I was in
[51:42] Speaker 2: high school– was where she taught ice skating lessons.
[51:45] Speaker 1: That's actually wild.
[51:46] Speaker 2: Isn't that insane?
[51:47] Speaker 1: Yes. What did you do at this ice rink?
[51:50] Speaker 2: I had like three different jobs. I was scorekeeper for
[51:53] Speaker 2: like our younger youth hockey teams, office staff, and then
[51:58] Speaker 2: I did the barista at our coffee shop.
[52:01] Speaker 1: So you're doing everything. Yeah. What are you going to
[52:04] Speaker 1: do with this criminology and these business degrees? What are
[52:07] Speaker 1: we going to do?
[52:08] Speaker 2: I don't know what my plan was. I went through
[52:11] Speaker 2: a lot of different things. My dad was very, my
[52:15] Speaker 2: dad was Air Force, spent 35 years in the airline
[52:20] Speaker 2: industry after that.
[52:21] Speaker 1: Okay. And he was just- One airline?
[52:26] Speaker 2: Essentially, yes. They just got bought out. So it was
[52:29] Speaker 2: Northwest and then they got bought out by Delta.
[52:31] Speaker 1: Your dad, right? Yes. He's in the Air Force. My
[52:33] Speaker 1: first opportunity to do a major movie and that's Guile
[52:36] Speaker 1: and Guile is Air Force. And depending on when you
[52:40] Speaker 1: are looking, 1994, you know, is he colonel, is he captain,
[52:43] Speaker 1: whatever it may be. But please just let me know
[52:46] Speaker 1: when the movie comes out how I did.
[52:48] Speaker 2: Okay.
[52:48] Speaker 1: Yeah, because I had a lot of facts.
[52:50] Speaker 2: All right.
[52:51] Speaker 1: I only had these facts loaded up in case somebody
[52:53] Speaker 1: called for knowledge of the military schematics in 1992 or whatever. What? Basically,
[53:00] Speaker 1: I didn't want to get caught. There's a lot of
[53:02] Speaker 1: fun people on this movie. Eric Andre is on this movie. Yeah. Katow,
[53:05] Speaker 1: the director. There's a lot of improv. So I was
[53:08] Speaker 1: basically ready wrestling style. I want one person to try
[53:12] Speaker 1: and ask me about the B4. I want one person.
[53:16] Speaker 1: I never needed any of this. It's in there in
[53:18] Speaker 1: a way, but yes. All right.
[53:19] Speaker 2: Well, at least you were ready. I flew planes for
[53:21] Speaker 2: a while because I was going to be a pilot.
[53:22] Speaker 2: That didn't work out either.
[53:23] Speaker 1: What kind of plane were you flying?
[53:25] Speaker 2: A little Cessna. Yeah? Yeah.
[53:27] Speaker 1: Did you feel good about it? Yeah. Were you a
[53:29] Speaker 1: good pilot?
[53:30] Speaker 2: I was actually really good.
[53:31] Speaker 1: Yeah?
[53:32] Speaker 2: I was just really scared because– The thought of flying
[53:35] Speaker 2: a metal object full of people and they're my responsibility,
[53:40] Speaker 2: I mentally could not get past that. So I was like,
[53:42] Speaker 2: I'm not going to go through all of this training
[53:43] Speaker 2: and do all of this to then back out later.
[53:46] Speaker 1: Do you still have your pilot's license? No. But you
[53:49] Speaker 1: did have a pilot's license.
[53:50] Speaker 2: I did not. I stopped. Okay, listen. We got to
[53:53] Speaker 2: the solo flying.
[53:54] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[53:56] Speaker 2: Terrified.
[53:57] Speaker 1: Yeah.
[53:57] Speaker 2: I was going to be up there by myself. What
[53:59] Speaker 2: if something went wrong? Do you know how many of
[54:00] Speaker 2: those little planes crash?
[54:01] Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I do. Was it about to be me?
[54:05] Speaker 1: Here's my question. We take a lot of charters as
[54:07] Speaker 1: a group. Worst case scenario, right? Something happens. Pilots both
[54:11] Speaker 1: pass out. We don't know. Can you get that plane
[54:14] Speaker 1: safely back?
[54:16] Speaker 2: I will sure do my darndest.
[54:17] Speaker 1: I think, yeah. Who else? Do you know anyone else
[54:22] Speaker 1: who flew planes or knew someone who flew planes?
[54:24] Speaker 2: It's you.
[54:24] Speaker 1: You're the one in that regard.
[54:26] Speaker 2: Although Jordan Grace just started taking flying lessons. I saw that. Really? Yeah,
[54:29] Speaker 2: she did.
[54:30] Speaker 1: Trying to catch up, huh?
[54:31] Speaker 2: I guess so.
[54:31] Speaker 1: Trying to catch up to you. If I find that
[54:34] Speaker 1: you guys, we have a bunch of female pilots in
[54:36] Speaker 1: the locker room, it's going to be a unique.
[54:38] Speaker 2: I don't think there's going to be many. Yeah.
[54:40] Speaker 1: It's you without your license. So unofficial.
[54:42] Speaker 2: Unofficial.
[54:43] Speaker 1: You're unofficial.
[54:44] Speaker 2: Unofficial pilot. For single engine aircrafts.
[54:47] Speaker 1: Single engine, unofficial pilot. Yes. Um, Here's where I think
[54:51] Speaker 1: this degree is going to help. How much time have
[54:53] Speaker 1: you spent with Mr. Heyman? How much time have you
[54:55] Speaker 1: talked to Mr. Heyman?
[54:56] Speaker 2: A good chunk.
[54:57] Speaker 1: Yeah. That type of life experience is the type of
[55:01] Speaker 1: thing he really relies on and leans on and finds
[55:05] Speaker 1: things that you didn't even realize. Okay. Yeah, so he's
[55:09] Speaker 1: a special one to have.
[55:09] Speaker 2: Okay.
[55:11] Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if fatal influence is in
[55:14] Speaker 1: the Heyman girl slot, you know, if you're there or not,
[55:17] Speaker 1: but you'll know. Okay. But he's a good one to have.
[55:20] Speaker 1: But you don't need him. You've got your two homies.
[55:22] Speaker 1: You're going to run it. And we will bring them
[55:25] Speaker 1: on the pod to make them feel as they should.
[55:28] Speaker 2: We'll have to regroup in the near future. Have all
[55:31] Speaker 2: three of us come out.
[55:32] Speaker 1: I was still a little bitter because I gave JC
[55:34] Speaker 1: my only mask I still had left. And then like
[55:38] Speaker 1: two weeks later, I don't know what she did with it.
[55:41] Speaker 1: I think she forgot. Oh, it's here. It's right there. Well,
[55:44] Speaker 1: we got it back.
[55:46] Speaker 2: So what are you complaining for?
[55:47] Speaker 1: I'm not. Why are you coming after her? She's wonderful.
[55:49] Speaker 1: There you go.
[55:50] Speaker 2: We like that answer better.
[55:53] Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming. Thanks for having me.
[55:56] Speaker 1: I very much look forward to everything, and thank you
[55:58] Speaker 1: for being on SmackDown.
[56:00] Speaker 2: Honored.
[56:01] Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, what do you want to talk about?
[56:03] Speaker 1: Fallon Henley. All right.

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