# Talavera 2-3 Real Madrid Postgame Reaction

An episode of [The Real Deal: A Real Madrid Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1807821669), 17 Dec 2025, 24 min.

Audio: https://anchor.fm/s/103607aa8/podcast/play/112795435/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-11-17%2F414591992-44100-2-18219aca7cb2c.mp3

Sid breaks down the Copa Del Rey win in Real Madrid's penultimate fixture of the calendar year. Dean Huijsen, Endrick, Mbappe, the new right back Jimenez, and more.

## Transcript

[0:03] What's going on? Everyone didn't think there
[0:05] would be so much to talk about after a Copa del Rey game
[0:09] against Talavera. Round of 32, easy game in
[0:12] December. And yet with Real Madrid, you
[0:15] could see all the issues we had in this little game and if
[0:19] you've been watching the show, understand that we expect things
[0:22] to be very hard. But once again, the passing
[0:25] qualities of this team was very shocking.
[0:27] So let's get right into it. Just a quick reaction to the
[0:30] starting lineup. So everyone's wondering, why
[0:33] does Killian and Bape have to play?
[0:37] I think if you look at the stats this season and the fact that
[0:39] most of our goals are coming from him, it's pretty obvious
[0:42] that he needs to start. But regardless, it's it is a
[0:45] relatively young lineup. It's not for Castilla guys or
[0:48] anything, but David Jimenez get to start it right back.
[0:51] Dean Hoyson's back in the lineup, which is always good
[0:53] news. Elvaro Carreras playing center
[0:55] back, not so ideal as we've seen before.
[0:57] And the front 6 is like very attacking because it's a Copa
[1:01] del Rey game. I think Alonzo felt that he
[1:04] could kind of throw on a lot of attackers at the same time.
[1:06] So you get Andric, Gonzalo and Bape and Franco on the pitch at
[1:10] the same time, and then you get Arda and Sabios in midfield.
[1:13] Arda struggled deeper so there's no like Destroyer, there's no
[1:17] defensive minded player, no Fete Valverde, no Bellingham, no camp
[1:20] of Vinga, no Chuomeni. So that's our starting line up.
[1:24] I thought maybe you try to get an early one and take him Pape
[1:28] off, but as the game unfolds we see why that's not obvious.
[1:31] So the first 25 minutes I thought the issue became really
[1:36] obvious. We still can't like pass out of
[1:39] any sort of pressure and so even teams playing in a deeper block
[1:44] can kind of force us to the angles they want.
[1:46] But we're playing an easy team that doesn't have too much
[1:49] quality, so to seed them the ball would also be silly.
[1:53] So the first thing we were trying to do is play a highline,
[1:56] but we're doing a highline without press resistance,
[1:58] without press resistant quality. So that turns into a lot of bad
[2:03] possessions where we give up the ball and are conceding in
[2:06] transition. So we're giving up a lot in
[2:09] transition. The 1st 25 minutes, Talavera are
[2:12] just a very weak team. A decent team probably punishes
[2:15] us, but because they're weak we kind of get away with it.
[2:18] And the 1st 25 minutes I was disappointed.
[2:21] But the big shift around the 25 minute mark, I feel like Dean
[2:24] Hoyson really grew into the game.
[2:26] So once again, like we're not good necessarily to start the
[2:30] first half, but they're not. They have no technical quality.
[2:33] So we're kind of able to weather their few transition
[2:36] opportunities and turn that into a spell of dominance.
[2:39] Then we saw a lot of wasted chances for the last 20 minutes
[2:44] of the half, wasted cross after cross.
[2:47] Gonzalo Garcia just can't seem to like do anything with the
[2:50] chances. Like he gets near the end of a
[2:52] lot, but he's not putting them away.
[2:55] And it kind of answered the question as to why Mbappe
[2:58] started. I want to say because what we
[3:00] start doing is we play Arta Gulare in his role from earlier
[3:04] in the season where we are kind of playing set plays in open
[3:09] play, if that makes sense, Where we kind of set up where we know
[3:13] who's going to be released by Arda from a certain situation.
[3:16] And we get Arda the ball with space and time.
[3:19] And it's not obvious that player is going to get released because
[3:21] it's a very hard pass to make, but Arda can kind of deliver it.
[3:23] So we were running these Arda set plays and he was crossing it
[3:28] pretty well. I will give it to him.
[3:29] His ball striking and set piece specialty is incredible when
[3:32] trend is gone, like crosses corners.
[3:34] The delivery was good and the truth is today we kind of needed
[3:37] that because he was putting the ball pinpoint at the feet of
[3:40] attackers in the box. That's where some of the danger
[3:43] was coming from. It wasn't all from combination
[3:45] play. So yeah, we see Arda go to his
[3:47] role from earlier in the season and we saw tons of wasted
[3:50] chances, which proved why Mbappe had to start.
[3:53] And the other main thing I noticed was Andrick's movement.
[3:56] Gonzalo was struggling, but Andrick from early on looked
[3:59] really dangerous. He was playing these incredible
[4:02] Trivella passes, really just occupying the right half space
[4:07] that we asked Kilian and Bape to occupy a lot.
[4:09] And I just feel a little safer technically with him than
[4:13] Gonzalo. Gonzalo feels like a tall body
[4:15] that knows how to occupy the spaces of a nine.
[4:17] Andrick is obviously not a nine, he's too short, but I just feel
[4:21] like he's going to do more with the ball sometimes when it lands
[4:24] to him. His movements a little more
[4:25] dynamic. He's a winger, he can run in
[4:28] behind, he's faster. He made an incredible Travella
[4:32] pass to Mbappe for Mbappe's first chance tonight.
[4:35] So you put all that together and the main takeaways that we've
[4:39] had for this team all season just come back this game like we
[4:42] need more breast resistant quality, we need more Andrick.
[4:45] Why are you playing Gonzalo Garcia?
[4:47] Quick note on David Jimenez because he was receiving a lot
[4:50] of switches of play from Mbappe. Even Guler, every time he
[4:53] brought it down with his first touch looked really solid.
[4:57] So I don't have too much to complain in terms of Jimenez.
[5:02] But defense is something we could talk about.
[5:04] So the struggles of without passing quality on this team
[5:08] become more obvious in the second-half when they need to
[5:10] manage the game. We're up to nil, we we get a
[5:13] penalty and we finally look like we have a breather and that's
[5:18] when Jude and Chua, many actually end up coming on later
[5:21] in the game in order to help us close it out.
[5:25] Because essentially without passing quality, this team has
[5:29] not defended consistently to win high level games since Zidane
[5:34] like 2019 20s and we had passing quality that was baked into how
[5:38] we defend when Zidane was here. So if you can't defend with the
[5:42] ball, which we just cannot do right now, I don't care what you
[5:44] want to say. If we choose to defend with the
[5:46] ball, what happens is we end up getting forced back towards our
[5:49] box a lot, which is kind of what happened this game second-half
[5:53] and without the ball. This was a very offensive line
[5:56] up. It wasn't designed to defend
[5:57] without the ball. You had Frank Garcia playing, so
[6:00] first it's 21 because Frank Garcia is kind of playing up too
[6:04] high. I don't know if Jimenez is at
[6:05] fault for that goal looking back because the ball does go run all
[6:09] the way across goal, but we make give up one.
[6:11] It's 21. Chuomeni and Bellingham are on
[6:13] to try and close out the game, and it's really funny because
[6:16] Jude comes on and before it becomes 31, he he really starts
[6:21] shining as a lead playmaker again.
[6:22] It's like he gives the team what it needs side to side, passing
[6:25] some brave possessions, binking it out of the back, and it
[6:29] finally settles the game down enough for Mbappe to go take a
[6:31] crazy long shot. So that was amazing.
[6:35] But then Jude goes and takes an unnecessary turn out of our
[6:38] half, gives up a free kick, we give up a goal 32.
[6:42] And the scariest part of that game was the ending there where
[6:45] we had no way of defending if we're not playing offense and
[6:49] Lunan has to make a crazy save. So all things considered, bitter
[6:53] taste, lot of people upset. And I'm going to go through some
[6:57] of the reactions now in the comments.
[6:58] Talk to you guys, take your questions to close out.
[7:01] So that was apparent embarrassing.
[7:02] John Chipenya says it definitely was.
[7:06] And he says barely surviving against a team that Castilla
[7:08] beat. Oh my God, that is crazy.
[7:10] That should tell you how much this team is in like survival
[7:13] mode right now because I just think without Trent, who can
[7:17] instantly teleport it to the other half and make it 4/2 and
[7:21] 5/2 with Guler struggling in duels.
[7:23] So we can't like play a solid defense with him.
[7:26] Sometimes it's really hard to control the game.
[7:28] Guys, we're not we can't keep the ball against the press.
[7:32] We don't have a defensive galactico team.
[7:35] Like we've seen how the season played out.
[7:36] When we tried going defense first, we had locker room
[7:39] issues. So it's really tricky honestly.
[7:43] Like I believe we have to control games with offense.
[7:45] You had an offensive profile. It works or everyone has to
[7:48] commit better defensively. And again, if you're playing
[7:51] your offensive profiles in a small game and they can't
[7:54] defend, it is very disappointing.
[7:56] And once again, a controlling player changes a lot.
[7:59] Maybe we get two goals instead of like sitting in our half.
[8:02] One thing that stood out was how poorly we looked trying to keep
[8:06] defensive possession in the second-half.
[8:09] Even some of the phases of the first half of the 1st 15 games
[8:12] of the season where it felt like we were able to do that, we
[8:15] couldn't really do it. And it was interesting that we
[8:18] couldn't even decently press a third division team.
[8:20] I will say in general with pressing, I do consider pressing
[8:24] in the manner we want with Jabi, like where you're boxing the
[8:27] other team, it's always going to have some challenges.
[8:29] But yes, considering where we came from Marseille where we get
[8:34] made them give up like 14 turnovers in zone 14 or
[8:37] something or something in their half, 14 high turnovers or
[8:40] something most of the season, The contrast to this game was
[8:43] very, very shocking. We got scammed by Bournemouth.
[8:46] One guy says Dean knows nothing about defending.
[8:49] Listen, he is an incredible playmaker, but he has a long way
[8:53] to go as a defender. I think it's not Bournemouth,
[8:56] but it's Ireola. He does something to some of his
[8:58] players like look at Frank Garcia.
[8:59] Frank Garcia is like nothing like what Ireola sold.
[9:02] Liverpool are finding that out with Kirk is do not buy left
[9:06] backs from Ireola. I don't think Dean has been as
[9:10] bad as people say. There's no question that
[9:12] sometimes him and Carreras make weird decisions, especially Dean
[9:16] in possession. But just watching the game
[9:19] today, the lack of ball like manipulation of the press, the
[9:23] angles, disguising of passes, ability to like shift the block
[9:27] in our whole team outside Dean is really apparent.
[9:30] And Dean is the best player in our back line along with
[9:33] Carreras and actually like speeding things up.
[9:35] And that's not going to work against Athletico Madrid in
[9:37] these best teams. But I don't know how to say it.
[9:40] We need Dean right now. So you need to bring Jude on for
[9:44] this team. I mean, the truth is you could
[9:46] argue that you don't. You need to bring Jude on, but
[9:49] it was 21 and Jude comes on. I I believe like we gave up that
[9:53] goal even with Jude on. So what we're looking at is even
[9:57] with the two way pieces coming on to try and closeout the game,
[9:59] there is some gap in terms of overall defensive quality.
[10:05] And yeah, like Cake Eater says of all games today, that's
[10:08] really not on Alonso. There's no coach in the world
[10:10] that can make players give a shit versus the third division
[10:12] team. Yeah, I I think like in the past
[10:15] too, our coaches made them give enough of a shit to play
[10:17] offense. I just keep emphasizing these
[10:19] guys love playing offense, but when you lack that controlling
[10:23] profile and you can't execute that well, they're not going to
[10:26] suddenly become defense first players.
[10:28] It it's just my belief. They're they're they've shown
[10:30] that this season that even if you win, they don't want to do
[10:32] that. I don't know how you work with
[10:34] that. Play Mbappe for a full game.
[10:36] That was a big question for a lot of people.
[10:38] I mean, he scored two goals. He made it 3-2.
[10:41] Like, I don't know what people are saying.
[10:42] Nobody else can score. Gonzalo Garcia can't score.
[10:45] Arta Guler is the passer. Vinny was rested for this game.
[10:49] Rodrigo came on later. But if you're not playing
[10:51] Rodrigo, Jude and Vinny, all three of them, you may not have
[10:54] goals in your line up. We've seen this going back years
[10:57] like we would we had when we had passing quality.
[11:00] We would overwhelm the other team and Hoslu would come on.
[11:02] But some of those guys are gone now.
[11:04] So the only guy who's shooting reliably on this team is
[11:07] Zimbape. I will argue that like his quest
[11:11] for goals for the calendar year, that normally shouldn't matter.
[11:14] I think if you're playing a La Liga game and you need to rest
[11:17] someone for your Champions League game, I think if rest is
[11:20] going to make him Bobby play better, those are the games that
[11:23] you're resting for. But with nothing on the horizon
[11:26] now and with the winter break coming up, you're less worried
[11:29] about fatigue. You're also not worried about
[11:32] the extent to which Mbappe is going to run his ass off because
[11:36] this is yes, like that's the point when you put out this type
[11:39] of lineup in this game, you don't expect Mbappe to have to
[11:42] do a lot of defending in the 1st place.
[11:44] So that's, that's the main thing to understand.
[11:48] A lot of people are just complaining in the comments,
[11:51] going through more of it. People are hitting chubby.
[11:53] People are saying, listen, the big flaws I've said before is we
[11:57] need more Andrik. I don't know why coming into
[12:00] this phase of the season, Gonzales played so much more
[12:03] than Endrick. Endrick is a more dynamic
[12:05] player. I generally think a Hosalu type
[12:08] is good, but if that Hosalu is so much more limited than
[12:10] Hosalu, I would rather lean into the fact that we don't have a
[12:14] nine. But Ron Endrick and Endrick's
[12:15] header over the weekend or whenever he last played, when he
[12:18] had that header that was saved, that I thought was a good
[12:22] example of how even though he's short, he finds a way to get a
[12:27] body or his body on the ball. And I think that's really
[12:31] important. You, you just need someone who's
[12:32] willing to be aggressive. Gonzalo does that, too, but his
[12:35] touch is a lot worse. Like if, if, if one of them is
[12:38] going to accidentally bundle the ball in, it's more likely to be
[12:42] Endrick. So, yeah, now that those are
[12:46] most of my thoughts here, Gonzalo Garcia, I guess, is a
[12:50] good place to close. Gonzalo had his Club World Cup
[12:52] performance, so he built up some reputation.
[12:54] But that is falling away fast as Jason in the comments, Correct.
[12:59] I think the Club World Cup has done some damage to what we
[13:02] think this team could be because it's happening in a time where
[13:06] the variables are just not locked in.
[13:08] Every team is kind of half assed.
[13:09] Every team is just stitching together enough fitness and
[13:12] motivation to earn that prize money.
[13:14] That's really all that tournament was for.
[13:16] And at the back of some of their heads was the season coming up,
[13:19] in my opinion. And you look at Gonzalo, he
[13:22] might have been good in that environment.
[13:24] But even the Club World Cup, we had some close calls.
[13:27] It was very much Alonzo like managing the games as they go
[13:31] and things kind of bouncing our weight honestly, like I just
[13:34] don't think the Club World Cup is something that should be used
[13:37] as a barometer for how we should play going forward.
[13:40] And I think with Gonzalo, he he's been a bit of a victim of
[13:43] that. But I think where you criticize
[13:45] Alonzo is like not going to him and Andrew I I totally do.
[13:49] And that's where I'm so curious about the locker room dynamics
[13:52] because Edrick is Juni Calafat client if I'm not wrong.
[13:55] So Juni is someone who backs Edrick, Rodrigo, Vinnie, Feta,
[13:59] Valverde and all those guys. So is it where Vinnie and
[14:04] Rodrigo like want minutes so much that Jabi then can't afford
[14:09] to give any Dendrick? I don't know what's going on.
[14:11] I'm not trying to make excuses for him.
[14:12] I'm just saying when you're not inside the club, sometimes you
[14:15] don't know what's happening. And this Edrick decision is one
[14:18] of the most bizarre ones. The main thing I'll say to close
[14:21] out here about Alonzo and all these things is it's OK for a
[14:27] coach to make a mistake and work through it.
[14:29] Like Zidane. His first spell during the three
[14:32] peat was making a lot of mistakes.
[14:34] The rest defense was not good. A lot of people criticize the
[14:36] rest defense now. When we had really good ball
[14:39] players and a better team, the rest defense was still pretty
[14:42] bad. It was a lot of Ramos and Verani
[14:43] heroics. Then the second spell he got
[14:45] better. I operate off the general belief
[14:48] of respecting our club legends. You need to like the number of
[14:52] guys who have played here and also understand that there are
[14:56] things we do uniquely here that aren't done anywhere else.
[14:59] It's really small number guys who have played next to
[15:02] superstars and seen how their lack of defending hurts us.
[15:06] Very small number. Zidane and Alonzo are two of the
[15:09] only guys who can coach that way.
[15:10] Arbelo is not Arbelo and Raul. I don't believe they will be
[15:13] anywhere near the caliber of coach because they weren't
[15:15] midfielders. Midfielders view the game a lot
[15:17] more dynamically generally. Like Carlo was a midfielder,
[15:19] Zidane's a midfielder, Alonso's a midfielder.
[15:21] So I'm more focused on the parallels he has with some of
[15:25] these X club. These like Zidane, basically the
[15:29] X midfields stars who understand how the game is played.
[15:32] And he wasn't a star the way Zidane was, no question.
[15:36] But the amount of disrespect to him, I don't understand.
[15:38] Like, he's a human being. We don't have that many options.
[15:41] And there's no other Carlo Ancelotti out there.
[15:44] I think that's the funniest thing.
[15:45] Like, there is no, there is no Carlo Ancelotti out there.
[15:50] So yeah, Jason Blass says thank you for doing react to even this
[15:54] low level game. You are welcome.
[15:56] Consistency is what we are aiming for.
[15:58] And, you know, I understand that there aren't too many people
[16:01] providing a steady voice about Real Madrid right now, let alone
[16:05] anyone who's had any semblance of professional goals in the
[16:08] past. So I just want to make sure that
[16:10] no matter what happens, we have someone who's trying to view the
[16:12] game tactically on here. And yeah, just tactically just
[16:17] find the last time we turned out of pressure and took advantage
[16:19] of like those crazy overloads we do on the far side.
[16:22] Remember those like 4 on twos where like Jude, Rodrigo, Vinnie
[16:26] Cruz, half the team would go stand on one side.
[16:29] It worked because we would turn and play through pressure so
[16:31] impossible angles that the other team, they thought they would
[16:34] close off, they would think, ah, you're stupid for over
[16:36] committing, let's go close it off.
[16:38] We would get through those and they would look stupid for
[16:40] trying to press us. We wouldn't always do it with a
[16:43] build up structure. So what would happen is teams
[16:45] would experience partial success, maybe entire halves or
[16:48] phases where we're not able to build out.
[16:50] But because we had those players, the manner in which we
[16:53] escaped would be very unpredictable.
[16:55] So when we escaped, we would always do so with the
[16:57] qualitative and quantitative or some sort of advantage that's
[17:00] gone. Now.
[17:01] When you see the qualitative advantage or quantitative
[17:03] advantage, the space disappears before the pass is played unless
[17:06] Guler is already facing there or Trent when he was playing.
[17:10] Trent has a way of doing it from right back, but he's out two
[17:12] months. So, you know, just go back to
[17:15] our old shows, guys. The writing's been on the wall.
[17:17] We really don't look good against anyone because we lost
[17:21] the conductors that gave us agency.
[17:24] So yeah, that's what I'm going to say.
[17:27] I still support Alonzo. It's the last thing I'm.
[17:30] I'm a big fan of Jaby and I think he might have.
[17:34] He has made some mistakes. I think he's also received
[17:36] pushback from the players and not been backed sufficiently by
[17:39] Florentino. I think Florentino's head is
[17:42] somewhere else sometimes. And these reports coming out
[17:45] about each game, they do kind of bother me because Olivez was a
[17:48] bad performance. This was a bad, like very
[17:50] mediocre performance, Pretty bad relative to opposition.
[17:54] I don't expect that much better against Sevilla.
[17:56] The only good news is it's the last game of the season.
[17:58] So last game of the season means good things.
[18:03] It it, I mean, sorry, the calendar year.
[18:04] So it means that they're going to kind of lock in more.
[18:06] I would like to think they all put it together for the last
[18:09] game of the calendar year, make it to Arabia and then let the
[18:13] team's shortcomings expose themselves when they try, is
[18:16] what I would hope. I hope they expose themselves in
[18:18] a way where Florentino takes accountability.
[18:22] That would be the main thing I would say.
[18:23] If he can take accountability and not try to use this moment
[18:26] to find a reason to deflect it onto the coach, I think we will
[18:30] be in a better spot as a club. Jason says I'm not Jabby out but
[18:34] he really struggles to have any impact from the Subs.
[18:35] That's a consistent failure I can only put on him.
[18:38] I agree, but I would just say it's a mix of him and the
[18:41] dynamics. Like previous seasons.
[18:42] Even if we played badly for an entire half, the exhaustion of
[18:46] containing Cruz and Modrich or just Cruz would catch up to the
[18:49] other team. It's so like we've seen this
[18:52] even before Jabby took over under Carlo.
[18:54] The whole like we haven't been able to shift the momentum of
[18:58] games without suddenly playing crazy defense.
[19:01] And again, when Modrich was dribbling through 4 PSG guys
[19:05] when he had to come back 2022. Now we're in a state where there
[19:09] is no Modrich. And like Cake Heater says, you
[19:12] can tell he can't sub out certain players.
[19:14] I agree he can't offend certain players.
[19:16] And I think the worst thing is like within all that, it's
[19:19] fallen where he has to leave Killian on because Killian's the
[19:22] only one who's shooting. But just to go back to
[19:25] everything, the Andrick experiment has begun.
[19:27] Like coaches are allowed to make mistakes in my eyes, like
[19:30] they're paid millions, but you're you don't want to be in a
[19:33] place where you're paying millions because you hired the
[19:35] wrong coach. You'd rather let the coach
[19:37] figure it out. Like, and fundamentally, coaches
[19:39] have a lot less impact on teams than players.
[19:43] That's proven mathematically. Like the coaches are a tiny
[19:46] multiplier effect on top of the team, which is the players are
[19:50] mostly deciding your floor and ceiling in most situations.
[19:53] So I think that's something where I was definitely too harsh
[19:56] on enchilada last season. I think that's where I'm going
[19:58] to end. I do owe an apology to Carlo.
[20:01] I was way too harsh no matter what he did.
[20:03] I like said way too much about his lack of sophistication.
[20:07] Carlo, I think did his best with what he had and there isn't much
[20:12] more you can do sometimes with a group of players.
[20:14] And that's the same I say for Guardiola.
[20:15] Like he has won Champions League all those years, but I argue
[20:18] that his team actually wasn't the best in terms of personnel.
[20:21] Every year it's. Like, like we got Jude when we
[20:24] want, we get like Vinny was better than Sterling.
[20:27] Like they don't have the best players.
[20:28] Players kind of dictate everything.
[20:31] And so that's how I would say. And lastly, is and isn't Andre
[20:35] going on loan? I think the rumors suggest that
[20:36] he's staying. I think Andrick is important to
[20:39] watch out for because it's the one area where I think everyone
[20:43] can agree he needs to play more, including people.
[20:46] Whether you're for or against Alonzo, happy with his tactics
[20:49] or not, no matter where you are on the aisle.
[20:51] I just feel like Andrick needing to play more is something we all
[20:54] agree on and how that Garcia, Andrick and striker situation
[20:59] around Mbapi unfolds is what I'm watching because that kind of
[21:02] influences our attacking dynamics for the rest of the
[21:04] season. Cactus J says sorry man but if
[21:07] he can't sub out certain players he's not going to last.
[21:09] But even then, these players can't have a say like that and
[21:11] are playing bad at the same time.
[21:13] That's why I say it all starts with Florentino Perez.
[21:16] And that's why I don't like the reporting coming out of the
[21:18] club. We have to beat Sevilla.
[21:20] No question. Alonzo needs to make it to
[21:22] Arabia. If he can survive long enough,
[21:24] Perez might be able to justify going to next season.
[21:27] But my understanding is Perez demands instant results if you
[21:30] let him sign even one or two players.
[21:33] So that's the last thing I'll say he so if he like like there
[21:38] was a lot of pressure on Saddam because he got for land Mendy
[21:42] and like hazard and all those pieces.
[21:43] Even when Hazard got hurt, there was a lot of pressure on him
[21:46] because he got to sign who he wanted.
[21:48] And I don't agree with this because the club is just blind
[21:50] to the the gaps in the squad. Instead, instead of they're
[21:53] fixating on what they gave the guy, instead of focusing on
[21:56] maybe they leave gaps in the squad that screw all their
[21:58] coaches and they weren't thinking that way.
[22:00] So that's the big wordy I have because they they put that
[22:04] pressure on Sidon, which means on some level they're that
[22:07] Lonzo. They're like, Hey, we gave you
[22:08] Carreras and Dean, go do something with them, like go win
[22:11] something. And I largely agree with that
[22:13] mindset if they then back the coach.
[22:15] But there is a very clear line of thinking and that I'm seeing
[22:20] from the club that Perez has told Alonzo when he can play
[22:24] Vinny or bench him. It it does feel like there's a
[22:26] conversation. It the feeling is that Vinny can
[22:29] kind of has to be informed in advance if he's not playing like
[22:32] today was in a sense a change because Vinny didn't play at all
[22:37] for the first time in a long time.
[22:38] So it is what it is. It's a complex situation.
[22:42] Listen everyone, I'm going to close out here.
[22:44] Thank you all for tuning in once again.
[22:47] Thank you for the Super chat Jason.
[22:49] We are going to try to react to every single game no matter
[22:51] what. The last thing I'll say one of
[22:53] you had put a super chat in before we rebranded.
[22:56] I'm going to go go pull up your name when I can find it again.
[22:59] But because we never got to it when we had technical issues
[23:02] with the content you did put your money.
[23:03] We will be getting you something complimentary.
[23:06] So if you're the Turkish guy who was giving us a super chat
[23:09] before we started rebranding, please like leave a comment or
[23:12] e-mail or whatever. We're we're going to make sure
[23:14] we hook you up with something when we can.
[23:16] Thank you all for tuning in. Make sure you stay safe.
[23:20] Like make sure you read good news, good information, good
[23:22] media. Don't read anything.
[23:24] Consume quality stuff or don't consume at all is what I would
[23:27] say. Social media is not a safe place
[23:28] when you're discussing rhyometered content.
[23:31] Go build your lives like we're going to win again someday, and
[23:33] we'll be there when we do.

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