# Q&A: Iran’s leverage, Hormuz tolls & will Trump leave NATO?

An episode of [Christiane Amanpour Presents: The Ex Files](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1807787260), 9 Apr 2026, 25 min.

Audio: https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/b92aefb6-3632-4b02-b813-861bc42df142.mp3?aw_0_1st.showid=fbbc0fd6-7f5d-4503-91ab-00eef2763889&aw_0_1st.episodeid=b92aefb6-3632-4b02-b813-861bc42df142

In this week’s Q&A, Christiane and Jamie discuss whether Trump’s handling of Iran has created a dangerous new source of power for Tehran - one that could end with Iran implementing tolls to re-open the Strait of Hormuz. They also examine whether any diplomatic solution exists without direct US leadership, and whether Europe, the Gulf states and China are now being forced to shape a new balance of power in the region. Finally, they look at the broader political consequences of American retreat: what happens to NATO, Europe and democracy itself when the United States is no longer treated as a dependable leader? This episode was recorded on Monday 6 April.

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