# Can democracy survive political violence and extremism?

An episode of [Christiane Amanpour Presents: The Ex Files](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1807787260), 16 Sep 2025, 39 min.

Audio: https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/5c3128e5-ddf8-464f-ac35-6109137ab9a3.mp3?aw_0_1st.showid=fbbc0fd6-7f5d-4503-91ab-00eef2763889&aw_0_1st.episodeid=5c3128e5-ddf8-464f-ac35-6109137ab9a3

The White House has said it will “disrupt, dismantle and destroy” a “vast domestic terror movement” and threatens “the radical left” after Charlie Kirk’s assassination. This comes after Elon Musk addressed a London rally organised by far-right figure Tommy Robinson, urging the crowd to “fight back or die.” What does this moment tell us about the rise of political extremism and violence - and can democracy withstand it? Meanwhile, Jamie reports from The Hague where he is testifying at the International Criminal Court. He and Christiane ask is the ICC still relevant in a world of powerful leaders who appear untouchable? How do indictments work, and will figures like Putin, Netanyahu, or Assad ever face trial? And as Donald Trump touches down in the UK, what should the British government demand in exchange for the King granting him another state visit? Contact us at: amanpourpod@global.com For more content, please follow us: Watch us: https://www.youtube.com/@AmanpourPod Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amanpourpod X: https://x.com/AmanpourPod Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Christiane-Amanpour-Presents BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/amanpourpod.bsky.social

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