# #141 Thomas Nobbs: Sleep brought him from 2:12 to 2:09 in the marathon (with coach Brant Stachel)

An episode of [The Marathon Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1803837535), 2 Apr 2026, 1 h 36 min.

Audio: https://anchor.fm/s/11464a0e0/podcast/play/122191058/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-5-30%2F427093329-44100-2-0cfe8f20fbe8a6f9.mp3

Get 20% off a STRAVA annual subscription with code KRISTIANSave on FlexBeam using this link or code WARWICKRUNS:https://rechargehealthas.sjv.io/55GAPb Start your free Musicbed trial:https://fm.pxf.io/kristianwarwick Thomas Nobbs just ran a 2:09:24 marathon! That's his breakthrough race, and this changes everything! But how did he do it? And how is it possible to never hit the race pace in training, and then go out and run that for 26.2 miles? We are joined by Thomas himself and his coach Brant! Time stamps: 00:00:00 – Introducing Thomas Nobbs and His Breakthrough 2:09 Marathon 00:02:34 – Unpacking Race Day Expectations for a 2:09 Marathon 00:08:38 – How Thomas Nobbs Paced His Unexpected 2:09 Marathon 00:19:59 – Cultivating the Mindset of an Elite 2:09 Marathoner 00:25:14 – Why Trusting Effort Trumps Obsessing Over Data 00:37:36 – The Scientific Benefits of Easy Runs and Polarized Training 00:44:06 – Navigating Data Overload and Trusting Your Intuition 01:03:20 – The Disbelief and Impact of Becoming a 2:09 Marathoner 01:08:32 – Key Training Changes That Led to Thomas's Breakthrough Performance 01:17:50 – Prioritizing Sleep and a Career Shift to Run Coaching 01:22:10 – How to Master High-Volume Treadmill Training for Marathons 01:26:23 – Thomas Nobbs' Heat Training Protocol and Chasing Dreams 01:31:52 – Host's Boston Marathon Shakeout and Community Updates Thomas: https://www.instagram.com/nobbs.not.knobs/ Brant:https://www.youtube.com/@FastandFreeCoaching 🎥 Full episodes + the Boston 2025 documentary: https://www.youtube.com/@Warwickruns📸 Follow my training journey on Instagram: @warwick.runs🎶 Music from Musicbed: MB01XPYH8ZYENVAMB0133EV2TCQFZY

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