# Using Artificial Intelligence to Research your Software Options

An episode of [Let's Talk About Scams](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1797340531), 7 Apr 2026, 51 min.

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There are so many software options, how do you know which one is best for you? How do you research? In our presentations, we discuss how to research your options. David Hawkins is back to walk us through using Artificial Intelligence in our research. Let’s Talk About Scams is broadcast live Tuesdays at 8AM PT on K4HD Radio - Hollywood Talk Radio (www.k4hd.com) part of Talk 4 Radio (www.talk4radio.com) on the Talk 4 Media Network (www.talk4media.com). Let’s Talk About Scams TV Show is viewed on Talk 4 TV (www.talk4tv.com). Let’s Talk About Scams Podcast is also available on Talk 4 Media (www.talk4media.com), Talk 4 Podcasting (www.talk4podcasting.com), iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, Audible, and over 100 other podcast outlets. Disclaimer: The information contained in this podcast is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for individual professional / legal advice. The podcast information was carefully compiled from vetted sources and references; however, R.O.S.E. Resources / Outreach to Safeguard the Elderly cannot guarantee that you will not fall victim to a scam. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/let-s-talk-about-scams--6483699/support. This episode includes AI-generated content.

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[1:59] Speaker 2: healthy skepticism. So today, or first before I say today,
[2:05] Speaker 2: I hope everyone had a fantastic easter over the weekend.
[2:10] Speaker 2: Hard to believe it's April already, but it's April already.
[2:14] Speaker 2: But today we have David Hawkins back. And one of
[2:17] Speaker 2: the things that we talk about in our presentations because
[2:22] Speaker 2: we always get asked, you know, when we talk about
[2:24] Speaker 2: let's say antivirus software, well, what's the best one that
[2:27] Speaker 2: we should use? And everyone's situation is different, and so
[2:30] Speaker 2: we're going to talk about how to do and show
[2:32] Speaker 2: you how to do some research using artificial intelligence to
[2:38] Speaker 2: do some research to determine which antivirus software would be
[2:43] Speaker 2: good to use. So let's welcome David.
[2:47] Speaker 3: Good morning, good to see her again and happy. I
[2:50] Speaker 3: hope you had a happy Easter.
[2:51] Speaker 2: Yes I did. How about you?
[2:53] Speaker 3: It was excellent? Yeah, family and friends?
[2:56] Speaker 2: Nice? Nice, all right, So we are going to get
[3:03] Speaker 2: right into using an artificial intelligence software using it for good.
[3:08] Speaker 2: We're going to use it for research to determine and
[3:12] Speaker 2: I just threw out the you know, which antivirus software
[3:16] Speaker 2: would be good for me to use? Right and our audience,
[3:21] Speaker 2: and so I'm going to let you go ahead and
[3:25] Speaker 2: start with the demonstration.
[3:29] Speaker 3: Sure, sure, and I'll go ahead and share my screen,
[3:33] Speaker 3: but I'll also give you a little bit of a
[3:34] Speaker 3: backgrounder on the AIS in general, just just at a
[3:39] Speaker 3: high level. So it helps to make sure people a
[3:43] Speaker 3: lot of times when you don't know which one to use,
[3:47] Speaker 3: it becomes like I'm afraid to even use one.
[3:50] Speaker 2: Of them, right, oh, right, right, So.
[3:53] Speaker 3: So basically think about it this way. You know, the
[3:56] Speaker 3: the Internet is a great big library for us, right,
[3:59] Speaker 3: we can go out there in search and find anything
[4:01] Speaker 3: we need. So in a way, your AI is your librarian, right.
[4:07] Speaker 3: It's the Dewey decimal system of the Internet for us.
[4:10] Speaker 2: Nowadays, that's good way to look at them.
[4:13] Speaker 3: I know some of you know what that is, so
[4:16] Speaker 3: I do. So think of it as a librarian for you.
[4:20] Speaker 3: And the difference between a librarian and uh, you know,
[4:25] Speaker 3: just walking in and saying, okay, where do I find
[4:28] Speaker 3: the books on psychology? It's a big difference, right. You know,
[4:31] Speaker 3: the librarian actually talks to you and helps you find
[4:35] Speaker 3: what you're looking for. But it's the one thing about
[4:38] Speaker 3: this librarian is, unlike the librarians we probably grew up
[4:41] Speaker 3: with who actually knew to ask you all the right questions,
[4:45] Speaker 3: you kind of have to prompt them so that they
[4:48] Speaker 3: know what to look for for you.
[4:50] Speaker 2: Okay.
[4:51] Speaker 3: So the idea here though, is it's predicting answers, right,
[4:55] Speaker 3: It's just a pattern prediction engine. They're creative and fast,
[5:00] Speaker 3: so sometimes they'll come up with really good, interesting caveats
[5:04] Speaker 3: around a topic. And you know, one of the things
[5:08] Speaker 3: that they have is that there's no follow up. So
[5:12] Speaker 3: you know, if you if you ask a real librarian
[5:15] Speaker 3: where do I find books on psychology? They'll point you
[5:18] Speaker 3: in the right direction. And then when you get there,
[5:21] Speaker 3: they might even show up in the in the aisle
[5:24] Speaker 3: and say, is this what you were looking for? The
[5:26] Speaker 3: AI is not going to do that, And at a
[5:29] Speaker 3: quick high level, there's a couple of big ones out
[5:32] Speaker 3: there to know chat GPT is probably one of the
[5:35] Speaker 3: most common. People know it by name. It's heavily marketed,
[5:39] Speaker 3: so as a result, everybody gets a cop you know,
[5:42] Speaker 3: everybody gets emails and whatnot about it. Claude is a
[5:47] Speaker 3: lot less well known. It's really like the programmer's paradise
[5:52] Speaker 3: type of AI, so maybe a little overkill for most people.
[5:57] Speaker 3: Gemini is like a perfect sweet spot my opinion. The
[6:00] Speaker 3: tool that I'm actually showing you this in is a
[6:03] Speaker 3: Gemini product called Notebook LM and it's free, by the way.
[6:09] Speaker 3: And then of course there's GROCK and if you have
[6:12] Speaker 3: if you do anything on X or Twitter. This is
[6:15] Speaker 3: the default built in AI, and it's the one I
[6:20] Speaker 3: use the most because it tends to have both the
[6:24] Speaker 3: Internet stuff but also proponents. So you know, in a
[6:28] Speaker 3: cybersecurity realm, there's a lot of people in cybersecurity that
[6:32] Speaker 3: I know and that I work with, and so when
[6:35] Speaker 3: I go look something up in Grock. It goes out
[6:38] Speaker 3: to the internet, gets me results, but it tells me
[6:41] Speaker 3: what the experts over on x or Twitter actually say
[6:46] Speaker 3: about it. Oh okay, so that's one of the reasons
[6:48] Speaker 3: why I've always kind of gone in that direction. Okay,
[6:52] Speaker 3: now I'm going to talk a little bit in a
[6:54] Speaker 3: minute about how to create a good prompt. I'm going
[6:56] Speaker 3: to give you one quick tip. Ask the ask the
[7:00] Speaker 3: AI to help you make the prompt. Don't just do
[7:03] Speaker 3: it yourself. It's easy. It's easy to ask, but it's
[7:07] Speaker 3: called reverse prompting. Okay, you're going to say to the AI,
[7:12] Speaker 3: I don't know what to do. Help me to figure
[7:15] Speaker 3: out what to do before you even ask about the
[7:18] Speaker 3: first topic. And then you know, there's some of this
[7:23] Speaker 3: other stuff here is interesting, you know, in terms of
[7:26] Speaker 3: the use cases. But let's just talk about this for
[7:29] Speaker 3: one second. Because a lot of people, you know, AI
[7:34] Speaker 3: is generally free and for the average casual, average user,
[7:39] Speaker 3: you're going to go to any of these and you're
[7:42] Speaker 3: going to say, you know, search and it's going to
[7:45] Speaker 3: give you an answer. You don't have to subscribe. But
[7:48] Speaker 3: if you're like me, I'm heavy into research. I dig
[7:52] Speaker 3: into things really deep. So I pay for a couple
[7:54] Speaker 3: of these. I actually have more than one of these
[7:56] Speaker 3: that I pay for per year, and I would have
[7:59] Speaker 3: to say, if you're going to look at the one
[8:03] Speaker 3: that has the biggest bang for the bucket has to
[8:05] Speaker 3: be Google, because if you get if you decide to
[8:08] Speaker 3: subscribe to Google, what you get is something that has
[8:12] Speaker 3: twenty tools, and it's going to be very familiar. All
[8:16] Speaker 3: of those tools work in documents and spreadsheets, and there's
[8:21] Speaker 3: just so much that they offer as fringe products, even
[8:26] Speaker 3: even like going through your email and helping you find
[8:30] Speaker 3: things and eliminating spam and things like that. So probably
[8:34] Speaker 3: the best overall bundle is.
[8:36] Speaker 2: The gems in ninety nine a year.
[8:40] Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety nine per month, and they have an annual
[8:43] Speaker 3: if you choose to that actually has reduced cost on
[8:46] Speaker 3: all of that. All of these. Anytime you buy into
[8:50] Speaker 3: one of these, this is a monthly fee. It's not
[8:53] Speaker 3: for everybody, and you don't need to use the paid version,
[8:58] Speaker 3: but I find that it's very useful to actually be
[9:01] Speaker 3: aware of the paid version, because you know it is
[9:06] Speaker 3: for some people, it's going to be a little bit
[9:08] Speaker 3: more useful to have that paid version. Okay, so the
[9:14] Speaker 3: big things that I wanted to mention here before is
[9:16] Speaker 3: how do you ask AI anything right? How do you
[9:20] Speaker 3: figure out what AI is going to How do you
[9:24] Speaker 3: get the best results? Okay, it's not just search. If
[9:28] Speaker 3: you just search, you can find a bunch of things.
[9:30] Speaker 3: And you know what is the first rule of search?
[9:34] Speaker 3: But the ads at the top, so you're always going
[9:38] Speaker 3: to see a million ads when you just say show
[9:40] Speaker 3: me the best fist.
[9:40] Speaker 2: And that right, it'll say ads or sponsored ads?
[9:44] Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And if you you know our premise question
[9:48] Speaker 3: which we'll get back to in a second, of what
[9:51] Speaker 3: is the best anti virus? That whole discussion comes with
[9:56] Speaker 3: it's fraught with a few perils. One of the perils
[9:59] Speaker 3: is who paid for the most exposure in the search engine.
[10:06] Speaker 3: That's the one that's going to go to the top.
[10:07] Speaker 3: That's why chat GPT goes to the top. They pay
[10:11] Speaker 3: for advertising. So when it comes to which is the
[10:14] Speaker 3: best chat or AI to use, the one who pays
[10:20] Speaker 3: the most advertising is the one that shows up on top.
[10:23] Speaker 3: So that's how you the first rule of thumb when
[10:26] Speaker 3: it comes to search, always have a really clear idea
[10:30] Speaker 3: of what you're trying to do. Try and separate things
[10:33] Speaker 3: because a lot of times people will say, tell me
[10:37] Speaker 3: this and that right, So for example, what's the best
[10:41] Speaker 3: anti virus and VPN? Right, it's mixing product, you know.
[10:48] Speaker 3: So it's hard not to do that sometimes because a
[10:53] Speaker 3: lot of questions that I ask my AI from a
[10:56] Speaker 3: personal perspective, are I just copied and pasted all of
[11:02] Speaker 3: the pictures of the ingredients for all of my supplements
[11:08] Speaker 3: that I take. I copied and pasted them into a
[11:11] Speaker 3: word document, and I want to know is this overkill
[11:15] Speaker 3: or just right in terms of taking supplements? So it
[11:20] Speaker 3: can look at the images and get that information out.
[11:22] Speaker 3: But then you say, and is it right for my labs? Well,
[11:28] Speaker 3: then you're getting into a totally different topic and you're
[11:30] Speaker 3: going to have to post other files to make it work.
[11:33] Speaker 3: So you can just be very clear and concise to
[11:37] Speaker 3: get really good results. Okay, but this is the big one,
[11:40] Speaker 3: is the reverse prompt So before we begin, let's start
[11:45] Speaker 3: with actually doing some prompts. So my first question you said,
[11:50] Speaker 3: how do we discover what is the best anti virus?
[11:53] Speaker 3: So my first question is, and let me go back
[11:57] Speaker 3: to the document for one quick thing. I want to
[12:00] Speaker 3: ask the the AI to do something as a person. Okay,
[12:07] Speaker 3: So I want to tell them I want you to
[12:11] Speaker 3: act like an expert. That's the very first thing when
[12:16] Speaker 3: I create. I'm going to say, act like a security
[12:22] Speaker 3: professional that understands. Endpoint. I'm going to endpoint is like
[12:33] Speaker 3: our computers, right, endpoint security for consumers, because we don't
[12:41] Speaker 3: want to be a corporate right.
[12:42] Speaker 2: We don't want to write because that's different.
[12:45] Speaker 3: What is the best anti virus?
[12:49] Speaker 2: And do we need to say like for twenty twenty six?
[12:53] Speaker 2: So it's only pulling current information?
[12:56] Speaker 3: Not really, but sometimes it's better to just let the
[13:00] Speaker 3: AI do this.
[13:02] Speaker 2: Okay.
[13:02] Speaker 3: So the first thing I'm doing is I'm kind of
[13:06] Speaker 3: framing my question and then I'm going to say, give
[13:10] Speaker 3: me the best prompt. This is the reverse prompt to
[13:18] Speaker 3: get a side by side comparison of these products.
[13:28] Speaker 2: Now, should we say for seniors?
[13:33] Speaker 3: Yes? Would that be okay, senior over fifty five and
[13:40] Speaker 3: not a tech genius.
[13:43] Speaker 2: Okay, that's good. So it's automatically going to look at
[13:46] Speaker 2: ones that are easy to use.
[13:48] Speaker 3: Right, right, And so that goes back here to this
[13:51] Speaker 3: And by the way, I'll share this document. We can
[13:53] Speaker 3: put it up as a leg on the at the
[13:55] Speaker 3: end of the session. But you know, how do we
[14:00] Speaker 3: want to see the data right that we're telling it
[14:02] Speaker 3: right now, give me a side by side comparison. We're
[14:06] Speaker 3: asking it to give us the best prompt so that
[14:08] Speaker 3: we get the best results. We're giving a little bit
[14:11] Speaker 3: of background. That's hey, I'm over fifty five and I'm
[14:14] Speaker 3: not a tech genius, and we told it to use
[14:17] Speaker 3: a persona and we try to be very clear and specific.
[14:21] Speaker 2: Okay.
[14:21] Speaker 3: So that's really the focus, and that's how we start.
[14:25] Speaker 3: So if you had a set of bullets like that
[14:28] Speaker 3: in like in a note that you keep handy, whenever
[14:31] Speaker 3: you want to make a prompt, you just copy and
[14:34] Speaker 3: paste those into the prompt and then rewrite it for what.
[14:37] Speaker 2: You're looking for, right, okay.
[14:40] Speaker 3: And by the way, just to give you an illustration
[14:42] Speaker 3: of that, I actually have this thing in Google I
[14:47] Speaker 3: use keep notes and what I do with my keep
[14:53] Speaker 3: notes and let's just refresh it. There we go. So
[14:57] Speaker 3: I have this thing down here called prompts, and I
[15:00] Speaker 3: just saved. I just keep saving prompts that I'm getting
[15:04] Speaker 3: good results. I copy the prompt after I used it,
[15:08] Speaker 3: if it got good results, and I paste it in
[15:10] Speaker 3: over here like you know how to shop. This is
[15:14] Speaker 3: a beautiful one and we'll talk about that afterwards. But yeah,
[15:20] Speaker 3: so let's take a look at how this comes out.
[15:23] Speaker 3: And you know, the one thing about AI, this isn't instantaneous,
[15:27] Speaker 3: So this is a great time, Like I love to
[15:30] Speaker 3: take a sip of coffee right about now and recognize that.
[15:35] Speaker 3: And you notice, by the way, it's already took. I
[15:38] Speaker 3: don't know if you can see it.
[15:39] Speaker 2: It's it's a little hard to see.
[15:41] Speaker 3: Yeah, but what it's actually saying is pricing and details
[15:49] Speaker 3: and articles that it is pulling up based on twenty
[15:52] Speaker 3: twenty six. Okay, that's why I didn't bother with the
[15:55] Speaker 3: year because it very first thing it does is tells us, okay,
[15:59] Speaker 3: a little bit about that it So now remember this
[16:02] Speaker 3: was step one. This is not the actual results. And
[16:06] Speaker 3: what we did is we created a prompt and the
[16:08] Speaker 3: prompt is as a security professional, right, and then it
[16:12] Speaker 3: gave me the prompt so I can take this whole thing. Now,
[16:16] Speaker 3: I can just copy it and I'm going to make
[16:18] Speaker 3: a brand new chat so that it's clean, and then
[16:22] Speaker 3: I'm going to pay it and then I'm going to
[16:25] Speaker 3: hit enter. Now it's going to go get the results
[16:29] Speaker 3: that I'm looking for, and it's going to be nice
[16:32] Speaker 3: and clean, side by side comparison with the table. It's
[16:37] Speaker 3: giving me pricing information because I asked for that, said,
[16:41] Speaker 3: who is it best for? It's best for seniors in
[16:44] Speaker 3: this case. You know who's getting the top scores and why? Okay,
[16:51] Speaker 3: why is it easy? You know things like that, So
[16:55] Speaker 3: it thought through how to get these kind of results
[16:58] Speaker 3: for us, because we ask the AI to make a
[17:03] Speaker 3: quality prompt for us, and it's thinking of things we're
[17:06] Speaker 3: not right, pros and the cons. If we go further down,
[17:11] Speaker 3: it'll have an honest recommendation. Bit Deefender Total Security seems
[17:17] Speaker 3: to be the top with the best lab tests by
[17:21] Speaker 3: catching viruses, scams and ransomware and so on. So the
[17:26] Speaker 3: main lesson here is to recognize that if you treat
[17:32] Speaker 3: AI like a search engine, yes you can get great results,
[17:36] Speaker 3: but if you ask it to help you get the
[17:39] Speaker 3: best results the first go around, it will give you
[17:44] Speaker 3: incredible results that you don't so you don't have to
[17:47] Speaker 3: do two or three iterations of this.
[17:49] Speaker 2: Okay, so how do you how do you then know
[17:55] Speaker 2: where it's pulling this information that you know, because obviously
[18:01] Speaker 2: you know scammers make they impersonate companies with fake websites.
[18:07] Speaker 2: Ian you just want to make sure that where it's
[18:12] Speaker 2: pulling the information is from. Okay, so please cite your
[18:16] Speaker 2: sources and show me the links for each and.
[18:22] Speaker 3: You could have put that into the prompt at the beginning,
[18:25] Speaker 3: by the way.
[18:25] Speaker 2: Okay, So when we do.
[18:27] Speaker 3: That, now it's going to respend the whole thing, and
[18:31] Speaker 3: this time it'll have links and the sources. So it's
[18:37] Speaker 3: telling us that the A v test dot org is
[18:40] Speaker 3: one of the key resources av comparatives c net PC magazine,
[18:46] Speaker 3: So it's telling us where it got the sources, the
[18:49] Speaker 3: official product links. So in this case, what it's actually
[18:52] Speaker 3: telling us is the to make sure you don't accidentally
[18:56] Speaker 3: click on that advertisement that brings you to a scammer.
[19:00] Speaker 3: It's saying, here's the actual uh details on the deals
[19:06] Speaker 3: from the site from the vendors themselves, and then the
[19:12] Speaker 3: quick note you know, the production ratings and ease for
[19:15] Speaker 3: seniors and all of those descriptions are you know, it's
[19:20] Speaker 3: giving you it's it's it's methodology. It gave you these
[19:24] Speaker 3: links and research.
[19:26] Speaker 2: So when it gives you these links, like go down
[19:28] Speaker 2: a little bit further to like the actual sites. How
[19:35] Speaker 2: do you know that that is the actual legitimate site
[19:38] Speaker 2: and it's not a scammers site.
[19:41] Speaker 3: Yeah, so the first off, the AI is going to
[19:46] Speaker 3: clarify and make sure that they're not bad sites, so
[19:52] Speaker 3: it does not behoove the AI to send you to
[19:55] Speaker 3: some location that's going to compromise you. Now, that doesn't
[19:59] Speaker 3: mean that it's perfect, right, But again you hit on
[20:04] Speaker 3: yet another thing that I would say, Let's start at
[20:08] Speaker 3: this original prompt because I want to take this prompt.
[20:13] Speaker 3: I want to keep this perhaps, but let's put a
[20:16] Speaker 3: couple of things in the prompt that started out. Let's
[20:19] Speaker 3: add a few lines to this, give me links. I'm
[20:24] Speaker 3: gonna just copy and paste. I don't need to redo this,
[20:27] Speaker 3: so I'm just going back down to the what we did, Yeah,
[20:31] Speaker 3: and I'm going to just copy that and I'm going
[20:33] Speaker 3: to stick it in that original prompt. And you notice
[20:36] Speaker 3: all I'm doing is editing the original prompt. And then
[20:41] Speaker 3: I'll go back down to the very last one where
[20:44] Speaker 3: I started to where we got these links. Here there
[20:48] Speaker 3: we go, and I'll copy this one. So this is
[20:52] Speaker 3: how we're actually improving this prompt for future use. And
[20:57] Speaker 3: so now we'll just hit that and paste it in.
[21:02] Speaker 3: That was the same one. That's okay. But the final
[21:04] Speaker 3: one is please show me proof that the links you
[21:14] Speaker 3: give me are safe?
[21:18] Speaker 2: All right, very good?
[21:19] Speaker 3: Okay, And that is yet another way to protect yourself
[21:24] Speaker 3: because anytime, and I would actually think your question just
[21:30] Speaker 3: gave me the idea that that has to be in
[21:32] Speaker 3: every prompt I do from now on because I don't help.
[21:38] Speaker 3: But sure, yeah, so it's it's a great idea. So
[21:42] Speaker 3: here's the links again, and proof that the links are safe.
[21:46] Speaker 3: These are officially company official company websites. They appear in
[21:52] Speaker 3: reputable reviews and major review sites like the ones cited,
[21:58] Speaker 3: and you can verify the safety quickly by here's the
[22:04] Speaker 3: logic as to how they are. See. So that's right
[22:10] Speaker 3: off the bat. Probably the best approach that I would
[22:15] Speaker 3: take when you're doing research, start off by asking it
[22:19] Speaker 3: to give you good research mechanisms, and then iterate and
[22:25] Speaker 3: make little changes to it and run it again and
[22:28] Speaker 3: again until you get what you like.
[22:30] Speaker 2: Can you go down to the comparison? Sure, and let's
[22:34] Speaker 2: talk about the details in the comparison, And so it
[22:39] Speaker 2: gives you the antivirus option, the overall protection rating, and
[22:43] Speaker 2: where they got that from twenty twenty six labs, So
[22:47] Speaker 2: that right there tells you that they're getting it from
[22:50] Speaker 2: a source that is evaluating things in twenty twenty six. Yes,
[22:55] Speaker 2: and it tells you why it has the top marks,
[23:00] Speaker 2: the ease of use for non tech and then key
[23:06] Speaker 2: helpful features for everyday seniors, current first year priced US
[23:15] Speaker 2: and then one to five devices, so it'll tell you
[23:18] Speaker 2: how much it is annually for anywhere from one to
[23:22] Speaker 2: five devices. And I like how it says it would
[23:26] Speaker 2: like the first one Bitdefender Total Security at sixty dollars
[23:30] Speaker 2: for five devices for the first year, but it'll renew
[23:33] Speaker 2: at one hundred and ten.
[23:37] Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, and they have deals.
[23:41] Speaker 2: Yeah, they have deals, so you know you can always
[23:44] Speaker 2: look for discount codes. And then it's best for and
[23:47] Speaker 2: I think this is really good seniors who want simple,
[23:50] Speaker 2: quiet top protection without the fuss. And then like the
[23:54] Speaker 2: Norton one, it says it's best for seniors who want
[23:58] Speaker 2: extras like a v and a backup plus reliable help.
[24:03] Speaker 2: So if somebody was like, oh, okay, well, the next
[24:06] Speaker 2: thing I was going to search was going to be
[24:08] Speaker 2: I need to do regular backups and I need a VPN.
[24:11] Speaker 2: Then they'll look at that and go, well, maybe I
[24:13] Speaker 2: want to go with Norton because I can get all
[24:16] Speaker 2: those in one bundle.
[24:18] Speaker 3: Correct, Yep. And I will tell you a quick buying
[24:22] Speaker 3: tip for a lot of these products. There are some
[24:26] Speaker 3: unique situations sometimes, especially if the product is newer. If
[24:31] Speaker 3: it's a newer and just forget that I'm talking about
[24:33] Speaker 3: anti virus for a second, let's just talk about software
[24:37] Speaker 3: in general. Every now and then you will find a
[24:42] Speaker 3: product like maybe some Bitdefender Total security product and they say,
[24:48] Speaker 3: buy the lifetime license. Do it? And I say that
[24:54] Speaker 3: because I actually have a malware Bytes license that I
[24:59] Speaker 3: bought back in two thousand. I'm gonna say two thousand
[25:02] Speaker 3: and seven, maybe two thousand and eight. I bought it
[25:05] Speaker 3: for maybe fifty dollars. I've never had to pay for
[25:08] Speaker 3: it again.
[25:11] Speaker 2: Yeah, so you buy it in because if you do
[25:13] Speaker 2: it annually, you're going to hit whatever price increase.
[25:16] Speaker 3: They have exactly exactly.
[25:18] Speaker 2: So you can save yourself money.
[25:20] Speaker 3: Yeah, it's shocking. I mean, bear in mind, they're going
[25:24] Speaker 3: to build all kinds of features around that original product,
[25:27] Speaker 3: and they'll stop developing on that original product, and then
[25:30] Speaker 3: you know, eventually you'll probably want to go with their
[25:33] Speaker 3: newer subscription. But if you just imagine for a second
[25:37] Speaker 3: that you get a forty five dollars a year charge
[25:41] Speaker 3: for one license, and you bought an original product as
[25:48] Speaker 3: a lifetime license one time and it's sixty dollars, and
[25:54] Speaker 3: then you go ten years without having to upgrade it
[25:57] Speaker 3: at all, ever the same things is staggering.
[26:02] Speaker 2: Yeah, right, so because you're just paying forty five or
[26:04] Speaker 2: sixty dollars a year versus eighty one hundred. But so
[26:08] Speaker 2: you said without upgrading, So it's let's hit on that
[26:14] Speaker 2: the license that you bought could have upgrades every so
[26:19] Speaker 2: often to the software, which you need to do. When
[26:23] Speaker 2: you're talking about not having to upgrade, that would be
[26:26] Speaker 2: upgrading to a different license.
[26:29] Speaker 3: Yes. Yeah, So my original malware bytes license, like I said,
[26:35] Speaker 3: I bought it for about sixty dollars for a lifetime,
[26:37] Speaker 3: one time purchase. It gets all the latest updates for
[26:42] Speaker 3: the original product. But they've added VPN, They've added all
[26:46] Speaker 3: of these other fringe products which frankly I still don't
[26:50] Speaker 3: even buy, I don't need. And so I had the
[26:54] Speaker 3: original product and I've I bought it one time, and
[26:59] Speaker 3: now now I do have a subscription for other devices,
[27:04] Speaker 3: but I have one device in my house that forever
[27:08] Speaker 3: is on this platform.
[27:09] Speaker 2: Got it okay, And you know, it's a.
[27:12] Speaker 3: Rare thing to come across that. Bear in mind, it's
[27:15] Speaker 3: not like you're going to just find this anywhere. It
[27:19] Speaker 3: usually comes into play when you have a brand new
[27:22] Speaker 3: product coming to the market. And the reason that I
[27:25] Speaker 3: brought it up is because when you start doing these
[27:28] Speaker 3: side by side comparisons or you start researching for something
[27:32] Speaker 3: new like this, you're probably going to find some new
[27:35] Speaker 3: products in the process. And when you do that, it's
[27:39] Speaker 3: really nice to be able to buy those products.
[27:43] Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll lock it in at the lower price.
[27:45] Speaker 3: Yeah. And another one I did that with is a
[27:48] Speaker 3: product called da Vinci Resolve, which I use for video editing.
[27:53] Speaker 3: I bought a one time purchase of that product, and
[27:57] Speaker 3: if you bought the original version of a one time
[28:00] Speaker 3: purchase about five years ago, it's still fully functional. It
[28:05] Speaker 3: gets everything. The newest one added AI features, So I
[28:10] Speaker 3: had to buy up to that. Oh, at least I
[28:12] Speaker 3: wanted those AI features. But other than that, you know,
[28:17] Speaker 3: these are like when you find one of those, if
[28:20] Speaker 3: you can do it, do it. It's it's it's a
[28:22] Speaker 3: real deal.
[28:23] Speaker 2: Yeah, well that Yeah, who doesn't want to save money, right?
[28:27] Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, and especially when when when you think about
[28:31] Speaker 3: how much you use something like this. This is supposed
[28:33] Speaker 3: to be a set it and forget it software. You
[28:36] Speaker 3: shouldn't have to go back in and fiddle around with
[28:38] Speaker 3: your antivirus.
[28:39] Speaker 2: Every other day because it should be running twenty four
[28:42] Speaker 2: to seven. Yeah, it's just going to notify you right
[28:45] Speaker 2: when maybe you've clicked on a bad link or you're
[28:48] Speaker 2: going to get on a website and they're like, hey,
[28:50] Speaker 2: we don't think this is really safe. You know. But
[28:54] Speaker 2: you can also set within the software settings, you can
[28:59] Speaker 2: set it to automatically update.
[29:01] Speaker 3: That's right.
[29:03] Speaker 2: You can go in. You have to open up the app,
[29:05] Speaker 2: the software app, and go.
[29:07] Speaker 3: Into the example. I'll bring it up. We'll open it
[29:12] Speaker 3: up and right off the bat, you know, it's it's
[29:16] Speaker 3: warning me to now and now that, to be fair,
[29:21] Speaker 3: is actually just marketing for additional products that I don't know.
[29:25] Speaker 3: It's trying to get me to.
[29:26] Speaker 2: Buy up to make that bigger.
[29:29] Speaker 3: Yeah, they want more, more money. So but yeah, that's
[29:35] Speaker 3: the best I can do on the size. Sorry about that,
[29:37] Speaker 3: I don't Yeah, it doesn't zoom in too much. One
[29:42] Speaker 3: of these days I got to get the magnifying glass,
[29:45] Speaker 3: the old magnifying glass tool. Yeah, let me see if
[29:50] Speaker 3: I can actually do that. Accessibility here This is if
[29:57] Speaker 3: you if you are using there are certain products that
[30:04] Speaker 3: exist in Microsoft from an accessibility perspective. Accessibility. Ops. Oops,
[30:14] Speaker 3: I gotta spell it rights accessibility. There we go. Now
[30:27] Speaker 3: let's see if it can I spell today. There we go.
[30:34] Speaker 3: So we have an on screen keyboard, a contrast theme,
[30:37] Speaker 3: audio settings, and I was looking to see if there's
[30:44] Speaker 3: up there we go magnifier. So if you use the
[30:47] Speaker 3: magnifier starting it on, you can actually bring this over
[30:52] Speaker 3: and let's do. There we go.
[30:55] Speaker 2: How's that it didn't do anything?
[31:00] Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure that the magnifier will always work
[31:06] Speaker 3: the way I would expect, but I'm gonna zoom it down.
[31:09] Speaker 3: We'll turn on the magnifier again and let's see if
[31:14] Speaker 3: we can get there we go. Did that zoom in
[31:18] Speaker 3: for you at all? No?
[31:19] Speaker 2: No?
[31:20] Speaker 3: Yeah, this works great on your own computer and it
[31:24] Speaker 3: zoomed in two hundred percent. But it doesn't it doesn't
[31:28] Speaker 3: go through the desktop share unfortunately.
[31:31] Speaker 2: Got it?
[31:31] Speaker 3: Okay, but I have one more quick trick of my sleeve.
[31:35] Speaker 3: On this one, I'm going to use a screen shot.
[31:39] Speaker 2: Oh, there you go, and I'll.
[31:41] Speaker 3: Take the screen shot and zoom in the screen.
[31:43] Speaker 2: Here we go, There we go.
[31:46] Speaker 3: So these are all little tricks you can do when
[31:48] Speaker 3: you're trying to show people things. So the up top
[31:53] Speaker 3: here was this fix now, and this is the tool
[31:56] Speaker 3: trying to get me to buy up to a newer thing.
[32:01] Speaker 3: And it's you can see that what it's saying is
[32:04] Speaker 3: that because I don't have a VPN turned on, that
[32:07] Speaker 3: I'm potentially exposed.
[32:09] Speaker 2: Oh okay, I don't.
[32:10] Speaker 3: Necessarily need to worry about that, you know. That's that's
[32:13] Speaker 3: just like I said, it's marketing. So but when it
[32:18] Speaker 3: comes back to doing these types of tools, it's always
[32:24] Speaker 3: good to understand how is it updating, how often is
[32:28] Speaker 3: it updating? And is it scanning when you want it to?
[32:32] Speaker 2: So great, so I see the automatic updates right there.
[32:35] Speaker 2: You have it turned on. Yes, the second one. Yeah,
[32:39] Speaker 2: you just go to the gear icon, whether it's up
[32:41] Speaker 2: at the top or it's down on the left side
[32:43] Speaker 2: toolbar or the right side, you go to that gear
[32:46] Speaker 2: icon and you just you can manually go in every
[32:49] Speaker 2: now and then and click check for updates. But it's
[32:52] Speaker 2: best to just automatically download and install updates and have
[32:56] Speaker 2: that turned on, because you know, you could forget. I know,
[33:01] Speaker 2: even though I put everything on my calendar. I've had
[33:05] Speaker 2: it happen where sometimes I go, yeah, I'm gonna I'm
[33:07] Speaker 2: doing that right now, so I delete it and then
[33:10] Speaker 2: an email comes in and I scroll off onto the
[33:14] Speaker 2: emails and then I forget what I was doing. Oh yeah,
[33:18] Speaker 2: So it's just best to have it automatically update.
[33:21] Speaker 3: Yeah. And here's here's another one for you that I
[33:24] Speaker 3: think is easily forgotten is the scan and detections. So
[33:30] Speaker 3: when you get an anti virus, no matter what kind
[33:32] Speaker 3: it is, make sure that it's UH scanning automatically. And
[33:38] Speaker 3: nowadays they have these use artificial intelligence to detect threats.
[33:42] Speaker 3: That's a good idea obviously, because you know that that
[33:46] Speaker 3: is a good UH leverage the capabilities of the tool
[33:51] Speaker 3: to the best of portability. And then you know, I
[33:54] Speaker 3: didn't do it online, not because I don't want to,
[33:57] Speaker 3: but because I simply forgot. So scanning for root kits
[34:02] Speaker 3: is always a smart move. This is just an extra
[34:07] Speaker 3: so I would I would definitely do that.
[34:09] Speaker 2: What is root kits.
[34:11] Speaker 3: So a root kit is something where sometimes you click
[34:16] Speaker 3: on something and it infects you, and once you're infected,
[34:20] Speaker 3: it stays resident on your system and when you reboot,
[34:24] Speaker 3: it can come back with administrative privileges called root privileges
[34:32] Speaker 3: and so rout. The way that root kits generally work
[34:35] Speaker 3: is it's a method for the virus whatever infected you
[34:40] Speaker 3: to elevate its own privileges now has super user privileges
[34:46] Speaker 3: on your computer and it can install software, go download things.
[34:49] Speaker 2: Yep.
[34:50] Speaker 3: So you want to you.
[34:51] Speaker 2: Want to prevent those, Okay, So if you see that
[34:54] Speaker 2: on your settings under scan and protection all, always make
[35:00] Speaker 2: sure you turn on the scan for root kits.
[35:03] Speaker 3: There you go, and I'll just bring that back up
[35:06] Speaker 3: so you can see it.
[35:08] Speaker 2: Then you're going to turn yours on.
[35:10] Speaker 3: Yeah, I did.
[35:13] Speaker 2: That's the screenshot.
[35:15] Speaker 3: And by the way, this occasionally gets turned off on updates,
[35:20] Speaker 3: so sometimes you have to come back in here and
[35:21] Speaker 3: turn it back on. You know.
[35:23] Speaker 2: That's a that's a good thing that you know we
[35:26] Speaker 2: haven't talked about, is you know, you always want to
[35:29] Speaker 2: do your updates, but you should really go back into
[35:34] Speaker 2: your apps and look at the permissions that are given
[35:37] Speaker 2: because you don't want it to in essence default back
[35:42] Speaker 2: to what you originally had given permissions too.
[35:44] Speaker 3: That's correct. Yeah, you want to double check every time
[35:48] Speaker 3: it does an update, you know, so once a month
[35:51] Speaker 3: or whatever, go in here.
[35:52] Speaker 2: And however you once a week, once every other week.
[35:55] Speaker 2: Just mark it on your calendar and just go into
[35:57] Speaker 2: your apps. Takes a few seconds to go in, look
[36:00] Speaker 2: at the permissions, turn them off if you don't want them,
[36:02] Speaker 2: and you know, and save it and go to the
[36:05] Speaker 2: next app. If you have a thousand apps, then it's
[36:09] Speaker 2: going to take some more time.
[36:10] Speaker 3: But I like to, you know, whenever I think about
[36:13] Speaker 3: anti virus, I like to talk about the protection elements,
[36:16] Speaker 3: because one of the first things that we talked about
[36:20] Speaker 3: was how do you know those links are good? The
[36:23] Speaker 3: web protection for most of these tools actually does that.
[36:29] Speaker 3: When you click on a link that's bad, it just
[36:31] Speaker 3: immediately pops up with a Hey, you didn't want to
[36:33] Speaker 3: do that, trust me. Yeah, And when it works, it's
[36:38] Speaker 3: a blessing believing. Yes, I can't tell you even though
[36:43] Speaker 3: I'm a security professional, it doesn't mean that I don't
[36:46] Speaker 3: occasionally make mistakes. And I will say that because I
[36:50] Speaker 3: keep my anti virus up to date and my anti
[36:53] Speaker 3: malware tools up to date. I don't have generally, I've
[36:57] Speaker 3: never really had anything, you know, in ten years where
[37:01] Speaker 3: I've had to rebuild everything from scratch because of a
[37:05] Speaker 3: virus or something like that.
[37:06] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[37:08] Speaker 3: Why is because Number one, I don't click on things
[37:10] Speaker 3: I kind of know I shouldn't. But second, if I
[37:14] Speaker 3: do click on something bad, I have these tools like
[37:17] Speaker 3: web Protection warn you. Yeah, and it just it freezes
[37:21] Speaker 3: the action so that you're not accidentally doing something you shouldn't.
[37:26] Speaker 2: Right, And you know, that's something where we tell people,
[37:28] Speaker 2: you know, you in your subscription for antivirus anti malware,
[37:34] Speaker 2: you want to make sure it has multiple devices because
[37:37] Speaker 2: you want to have it on your phone, and you
[37:40] Speaker 2: really the way to get it on there is you
[37:43] Speaker 2: go into your account like you're doing here, and you
[37:49] Speaker 2: search for how to install on an iPhone or how
[37:52] Speaker 2: to install on an Android phone. It's going to take
[37:54] Speaker 2: you to the screen within that app, and it's usually
[37:58] Speaker 2: a QR code that you scan your phone, you know,
[38:02] Speaker 2: and then it brings it up and it'll install it
[38:05] Speaker 2: on your phone. Because clicking on a link by accident
[38:09] Speaker 2: is so easy to do on a mobile phone.
[38:12] Speaker 3: So especially when you get those text messages, right, the
[38:18] Speaker 3: crazy text messages. I will say, I've been noticing that
[38:23] Speaker 3: the iPhone in particular has been really ramping up some
[38:28] Speaker 3: good features related to that. Okay, you know, in one
[38:34] Speaker 3: of the chat features, you know, when I use my mind,
[38:39] Speaker 3: I have these these buttons at the top that are
[38:43] Speaker 3: my favorite people. Way up at the top, there's on
[38:48] Speaker 3: this side there's a filter button, and that filter button,
[38:53] Speaker 3: when you tap it, it gives you this little pop
[38:55] Speaker 3: up list. And I know that's probably really hard to see,
[38:58] Speaker 3: but the pop up list tells me that they've actually
[39:01] Speaker 3: got unknown senders, spam recently deleted, and manage your filtering
[39:06] Speaker 3: all available to you there, which makes it so much
[39:10] Speaker 3: easier to actually know that you're getting something from a
[39:16] Speaker 3: safe sender.
[39:17] Speaker 2: Okay, all right, very good, All right, we have got
[39:21] Speaker 2: like seven or eight minutes left. So what do we
[39:24] Speaker 2: want to.
[39:25] Speaker 3: Well, how about we go back to the chat tools
[39:27] Speaker 3: for a second. Let me give a little bit of
[39:31] Speaker 3: a guided tour of the general Like, I've got a
[39:35] Speaker 3: couple of these chat tools open here, and you know,
[39:39] Speaker 3: there are some features that you should know about if
[39:43] Speaker 3: you decide to use one of these tools, and if
[39:46] Speaker 3: nobody's ever shown you. You would never know. So the
[39:50] Speaker 3: chat is pretty straightforward, right, you know, it's just type
[39:54] Speaker 3: in a message, type in a prompt, ask to help
[39:56] Speaker 3: create a prompt. That's all straight And if.
[39:58] Speaker 2: You click on the microphone over to to the right,
[40:01] Speaker 2: you could actually talk yeah, and it's going to populate.
[40:05] Speaker 2: Then you can make sure that you know it's capturing
[40:08] Speaker 2: everything you're saying.
[40:09] Speaker 3: Yeah. And as a matter of fact, on my phone
[40:12] Speaker 3: or in my car because I have a Tesla. I
[40:15] Speaker 3: did buy a Tesla, and I can push the button
[40:18] Speaker 3: on a steering wheel and it brings up rock. Oh wow.
[40:21] Speaker 3: The the reason why I have GROC is it allows
[40:23] Speaker 3: me to use it in my car and it's part
[40:25] Speaker 3: of the car. It's not like attached to my phone.
[40:29] Speaker 3: It's actually the computer in the car has GROC right there.
[40:33] Speaker 3: So I hit the button. Then I say what restaurants
[40:36] Speaker 3: you know, eleven o'clock at night? I want a snack,
[40:39] Speaker 3: I want an ice cream or something, and what stores
[40:41] Speaker 3: are open and where can I get ice cream at
[40:44] Speaker 3: eleven o'clock And it'll plot out on the map for
[40:47] Speaker 3: me exactly where to go. And then I just hit
[40:50] Speaker 3: full self driving and it drives me there and I
[40:52] Speaker 3: don't have to touch the wheel. This is this is
[40:55] Speaker 3: the extreme of AI going out.
[40:57] Speaker 2: Yeah, I think in a few short years are cars
[41:00] Speaker 2: are going to be able to fly.
[41:02] Speaker 3: There's actually already a set of cars that are flying.
[41:06] Speaker 3: There are in California if you watch Moonshots it's a
[41:11] Speaker 3: YouTube podcast. There are two companies here in the US
[41:16] Speaker 3: that are already working on flying cars and they're talking
[41:19] Speaker 3: about how it's going to transform real estate because places
[41:23] Speaker 3: you would never normally be able to get into, these
[41:26] Speaker 3: cars will just bring fly in and drop down right
[41:30] Speaker 3: in the area. So imagine the cabin in the woods.
[41:33] Speaker 3: You find the clearing up on the mountain side that's
[41:36] Speaker 3: level where you can fly in and you never actually
[41:39] Speaker 3: have a road, you just fly in. So but anyways,
[41:44] Speaker 3: to go back to this, I just want to give
[41:47] Speaker 3: you a quick tour here, and I'm going to use
[41:50] Speaker 3: the screenshot stuff to work on this so we can
[41:54] Speaker 3: easily see it and do it that way. So most
[41:58] Speaker 3: of these tools have obviously search, which is the search
[42:04] Speaker 3: is don't be deceived. The search is looking at all
[42:07] Speaker 3: of your previous chats, so it's saying, remember that I'm
[42:12] Speaker 3: looking for that chat we had where I talked about
[42:15] Speaker 3: my medications.
[42:16] Speaker 1: Got it.
[42:17] Speaker 3: That's what the search is for.
[42:18] Speaker 2: That's a that's not searching the internet. It's just searching
[42:21] Speaker 2: your previous chats that you've saved.
[42:24] Speaker 3: And because these chats, you're going to keep them over time,
[42:26] Speaker 3: especially if you subscribe, and they've become super useful. So
[42:31] Speaker 3: being able to search the chats is what that's for.
[42:34] Speaker 3: Chat itself is when you're asking on a prompt. The
[42:37] Speaker 3: voice obviously is when you want to just talk to
[42:40] Speaker 3: it and have a conversation. And then imagine, in this case,
[42:44] Speaker 3: is video you want you want it to create an
[42:47] Speaker 3: image or a video instead of creating a text response. Now,
[42:54] Speaker 3: the second area, and most of these products have a
[42:58] Speaker 3: version of this, is a thing called projects.
[43:01] Speaker 2: Okay.
[43:02] Speaker 3: So projects are where you can store a set of
[43:06] Speaker 3: prompts that you want to use over and over again. Okay,
[43:10] Speaker 3: So in my case, I've got these three projects. One
[43:13] Speaker 3: is high traffic X posts. I like to see what's
[43:17] Speaker 3: new today, and every morning, what I do is I
[43:21] Speaker 3: open this prompt and then I write, click on the
[43:24] Speaker 3: link and open it in the new tab and I
[43:26] Speaker 3: go right down. I usually have about twenty of these
[43:28] Speaker 3: and I just pop them all open real quick, and
[43:31] Speaker 3: then I just read them and I'll show you that
[43:33] Speaker 3: in a second. The personal health one is exactly what
[43:37] Speaker 3: it sounds like. I've taken my medical records and by
[43:40] Speaker 3: the way, ninety percent of these, especially if you own
[43:43] Speaker 3: the project. You can set the projects to private, and
[43:46] Speaker 3: it's only your data. I've uploaded my labs, my medicines,
[43:52] Speaker 3: my supplements, put it all in there, and I use
[43:56] Speaker 3: it to say should I increase or decrease a given
[43:59] Speaker 3: suff clement, so that I'm not just taking too much
[44:03] Speaker 3: of something.
[44:05] Speaker 2: So you can set the specific project to private. Right,
[44:10] Speaker 2: and so then somebody else using this AI tool, your
[44:16] Speaker 2: information is not going to be out there for their
[44:19] Speaker 2: prompt to grab.
[44:21] Speaker 3: That's exactly right, Okay, exactly right. And so I started
[44:25] Speaker 3: off with these special instructions, and this is essentially my
[44:31] Speaker 3: super prompt, right, this is the I asked it to
[44:34] Speaker 3: help me create a prompt. Yeah, and that's what I
[44:38] Speaker 3: put in here. So okay, and you can see I
[44:40] Speaker 3: gave it a persona. I said, you are a precision
[44:43] Speaker 3: nutrition AI specialized in optimal health meal planning. Okay, and
[44:48] Speaker 3: then I created a little bit further down, you know,
[44:51] Speaker 3: some instructions, and then from the instructions, I create conversations
[44:57] Speaker 3: and it gives me exact ingredients for recipes and things
[45:01] Speaker 3: like that. Okay, So, and the output of something like
[45:06] Speaker 3: this is I wanted to say, based on my nutrition,
[45:10] Speaker 3: based on my supplements, based on my my health profile,
[45:16] Speaker 3: I want you to go propose a bunch of menu
[45:20] Speaker 3: items that I can put on my menu for this week.
[45:23] Speaker 3: And then I want you to go find all of
[45:26] Speaker 3: the local shopping places where I can get that stuff
[45:30] Speaker 3: and tell me who's got it on sale?
[45:32] Speaker 2: Oh wow, nice?
[45:34] Speaker 3: And that's what this is because now flis.
[45:38] Speaker 2: Walmart. I saw on there.
[45:41] Speaker 3: Because I'm just picking the stores that are close to me.
[45:44] Speaker 3: So I've got Publics, Walmart, all these And then basically
[45:49] Speaker 3: it breaks down the list and says, get the following
[45:52] Speaker 3: items at Walmart because they're cheapest there, go to publics
[45:55] Speaker 3: because they have a buy one, get one because they
[45:58] Speaker 3: have a great price.
[46:00] Speaker 2: Yeah wow. Can you we have like about a minute
[46:05] Speaker 2: and a half left. Can you show how to set
[46:08] Speaker 2: a project as private?
[46:11] Speaker 3: Sure? So the first step in creating a project is
[46:16] Speaker 3: to set it up so that project only can only
[46:20] Speaker 3: access its own memories. So it's staying inside the project, Okay,
[46:24] Speaker 3: and then we'll say and we'll create a project, and
[46:31] Speaker 3: then when we get into the project settings, typically this yeah,
[46:39] Speaker 3: the project only is the trick. It's it's staying inside
[46:42] Speaker 3: the source.
[46:43] Speaker 2: But the.
[46:47] Speaker 3: I'm not sure, but you know, this is chatchypt and
[46:52] Speaker 3: I don't know if they have a privacy setting on theirs.
[46:55] Speaker 3: Let's go back to grock. So when I when I
[46:58] Speaker 3: use grock, it has this private option, and when I
[47:02] Speaker 3: go to new projects, we'll give it a name. And
[47:10] Speaker 3: this is where I would put in that prompt before
[47:12] Speaker 3: you know, i'd create a prompt first, and then once
[47:16] Speaker 3: I have the prompt, at this point, I drop files
[47:21] Speaker 3: in or I can add sources. There's a bunch of
[47:23] Speaker 3: different ways to add sources. And then from here when
[47:27] Speaker 3: I get into a conversation, it's usually in the pro
[47:37] Speaker 3: conversation that I'm going to set things as private. So
[47:41] Speaker 3: and it may be that I overspoke about the privacy
[47:46] Speaker 3: settings of the project itself, because generally speaking, the project,
[47:50] Speaker 3: it's your personal files that stay private that you're restricting
[47:54] Speaker 3: it to the project. The chat is where you're going
[47:59] Speaker 3: to do general When you do a general chat, that's
[48:02] Speaker 3: where you can set things to private. So you go
[48:06] Speaker 3: back out there we go in the top right corner.
[48:09] Speaker 3: This is a private chut your chat.
[48:11] Speaker 2: Okay, all right, projects should automatically sure.
[48:15] Speaker 3: That you had privacy settings in the projects. But it's
[48:17] Speaker 3: not it's not that you're having privacy settings. It's that
[48:21] Speaker 3: you're restricting to the content in the project.
[48:24] Speaker 2: Okay, but your most people are going to go under
[48:27] Speaker 2: the chat and in the top right hand corner they'll
[48:30] Speaker 2: see private and they can just on private.
[48:33] Speaker 3: And this this is another place where let me just
[48:36] Speaker 3: confirm it before I state it and behavior I believe no,
[48:47] Speaker 3: So I'm pretty sure that you can set some privacy settings.
[48:55] Speaker 3: But I'm secure that's one thing we'll have to maybe
[49:00] Speaker 3: even requests here we go security.
[49:02] Speaker 2: Yeah, again with the pass word multi.
[49:07] Speaker 3: Security. So okay, yeah, I think we need to. I'm
[49:12] Speaker 3: going to request a feature on this actually and say, hey,
[49:15] Speaker 3: by the way, I want my project to be private,
[49:19] Speaker 3: and where can I set that? So yeah, I'll actually
[49:23] Speaker 3: be doing that for Gronck at least because since I
[49:25] Speaker 3: pay for it, they'll listen a little bit a little
[49:27] Speaker 3: bit closer.
[49:28] Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, all right, Well that's a lot of information, David,
[49:31] Speaker 2: thank you so much. I've got about maybe thirty seconds
[49:36] Speaker 2: to close here before I get in trouble for going over.
[49:39] Speaker 2: Go ahead, So anyways, thank you guys for joining us today.
[49:45] Speaker 2: Lots of great information on how to do your research
[49:48] Speaker 2: for different software products and how to refine those the
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[50:05] Speaker 2: It'll walk you through how you can verify that. So
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