# Abdul El-Sayed Wants to Pick Up Where Obama Left Off

An episode of [Bulwark Takes](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1794450472), 21 Oct 2026, 18 min.

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Jonathan Cohn sits down with Michigan Senate candidate Abdul El-Sayed to discuss his admiration for Barack Obama, the shortcomings of the Obama presidency, and the lessons he hopes to carry into the Senate. El-Sayed explains why he believes Obama made it possible for people like him to run for office, where he thinks Obama fell short on health care and other issues, and why Democrats need to stop assuming Republicans will negotiate in good faith. Plus, El-Sayed discusses standing up to Trump, why he believes Americans are less divided than they think, and his philosophy of fighting bullies without becoming one himself. This video is sponsored by The New York Times.

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