# Prima o Poi

A podcast by Marco Montemagno, Paolo Barberis, Max Ciociola. Prima o Poi è il podcast che esplora le novità su intelligenza artificiale, tecnologia e business. Condotto dagli imprenditori Marco Montemagno, Paolo Barberis e Max Ciociola, offre uno sguardo diretto sulle tendenze che stanno plasmando il nostro mondo tra riflessioni e ironia. Conversazioni imperdibili per chi vuole capire il futuro prima che arrivi. 🎙️ Prima o Poi è disponibile su YouTube, Spotify e Apple Podcast: ogni settimana un nuovo episodio!

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## Latest episodes

- [Zuck rimette Meta in corsa, Reverse Engineering di tutto? Spie negli uffici di OpenAI? – PoP #65](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/001eb836f599) (2026-10-16, 57 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/127567028/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-9-16%2F434295511-44100-2-f2fc7db3a390f.mp3
- [L'agente decide il modello per te, Amazon chiude a Muse? Anche Google vola in orbita – PoP #64](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/eab3162197cf) (2026-10-08, 53 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/127121595/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-9-8%2F433705997-44100-2-430c801be3fe2.mp3
- [Non è tutto AGI quel che luccica, OpenAI schiera 10.000 agenti, Tesla lancia il Cybercab – PoP #63](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/b3130dfa390d) (2026-09-11, 67 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/125538346/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-8-14%2F431854838-44100-2-a53fb5eb0f508.mp3
- [GPT-6 esce a sorpresa, Tim Cook lascia la guida di Apple, Meta patteggia 18 miliardi – PoP #62](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/aab9a5461ba5) (2026-09-04, 56 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/125208269/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-8-4%2F431189844-44100-2-32af56a41e2f3.mp3
- [Anche gli agenti vanno in vacanza, un'AI evade per barare e la Cina apre Kimi K3 – PoP #61](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/90193ea4a9a4) (2026-07-23, 64 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/123219958/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-6-23%2F428481527-44100-2-1ff33be7bc839.mp3
- [Il modello AI più potente è stato bloccato, Elon compra Cursor e sì, siamo tutti cyborg – PoP #60](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/a45128d97d28) (2026-06-19, 64 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/121712864/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-5-19%2F426455589-44100-2-64aa6d6198623.mp3
- [L’AI sitter di cui tutti avremmo bisogno, IPO esplosive e anche il Papa parla di AI – PoP #59](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/71b06215aad3) (2026-06-05, 62 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/121054974/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-5-5%2F425575437-44100-2-3b454e41acc07.mp3
- [SpaceX va in borsa! Zuckerberg spia i dipendenti? Claude Mythos è pericoloso? – PoP #58](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/45a22a139a7b) (2026-05-22, 65 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/120387892/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-4-22%2F424687096-44100-2-426687514353f.mp3
- [Usi improbabili dei robotaxi, GameStop vuole comprare eBay, OpenAI ha mentito a tutti? – PoP #57](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/77955e1ce8a6) (2026-05-07, 62 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/119646436/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-4-7%2F423693297-44100-2-4a3096d5aa2cb.mp3
- [AGI rumors, token che costano come stipendi e startup che si gestiscono da sole – PoP #56](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/eb4414cfed64) (2026-04-29, 57 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/119234971/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-3-29%2F423127908-44100-2-3a02844dcfb09.mp3
- [Claude Code leak, startup senza team né budget, l'AI non ti sostituisce, lavora con te – PoP #55](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/5e9d96e4fdec) (2026-04-03, 70 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/117899441/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-3-3%2F421334098-44100-2-c988ec54c919e.mp3
- [AI obbligatoria sul CV, Claude Code sorprende tutti, conflitti mondiali in una dashboard – PoP #54](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/5d357ffc2e2f) (2026-03-06, 62 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/116494630/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-2-6%2F419429296-44100-2-c6d1369e11a53.mp3
- [I numeri mostruosi di NVIDIA, Stripe punta a PayPal, chi vincerà Sanremo? L’AI risponde – PoP #53](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/4e85694a0dc9) (2026-02-27, 65 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/116145972/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-1-27%2F418957085-44100-2-d4d41289c35b7.mp3
- [Anthropic ha vinto il Super Bowl, Gemini ha la memoria corta, il lato oscuro della Silicon – PoP #52](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/2f650d944b19) (2026-02-11, 57 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/115362902/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-1-11%2F417913956-44100-2-f7ab46b4e2d8d.mp3
- [Tutti pazzi per Clawdbot: hype, adoption e rischi di sicurezza con Marcello Ascani – PoP #51](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/4d83f3dc24c7) (2026-01-30, 66 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/114794157/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-0-30%2F417155073-44100-2-6ba9deb6d3859.mp3
- [Musk litiga con tutti, OpenAI di nuovo in tribunale, a Davos si parla di AGI – PoP #50](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/f50ce5ce1983) (2026-01-23, 71 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/114445736/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-0-23%2F416693990-44100-2-2b5ed2ca0be0c.mp3
- [12 previsioni tech per capire il 2026: come cambiano lavoro, salute e istruzione – PoP #49](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/f650a743b22e) (2026-01-16, 73 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/114096017/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-0-16%2F416244973-44100-2-a95dc825b0367.mp3
- [Prima o Poi takes SIOS Winter 2025 – Speciale PoP](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/4cf1f2aaa666) (2025-12-18, 20 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/112823885/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-11-18%2F414628476-44100-2-5a60937c0221a.mp3
- [Netflix vuole Hollywood, SpaceX si prepara all’IPO, quali sfide ci attendono nel 2026? – PoP #47](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/79e8731bb647) (2025-12-12, 65 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/112548149/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-11-12%2F414275725-44100-2-04adb7c70bbda.mp3
- [Robotica, auto senza pilota, biotech e vita da creator con Jakidale – PoP #46](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/fb212fae3662) (2025-12-05, 65 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/112192313/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-11-5%2F413817634-44100-2-ee20b10333187.mp3
- [Quando a scrivere è l’AI: giornalismo, musica e responsabilità: PoP ospita Luca Sofri – #45](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/84c5db84c29c) (2025-11-28, 81 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/111851256/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-10-28%2F413373760-44100-2-7f43c87459785.mp3
- [Abbiamo provato Gemini 3 ed è ASSURDO: benchmark, limiti e giudizio finale – PoP #44](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/110925f9c543) (2025-11-21, 63 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/111514550/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-10-21%2F412916137-44100-2-e2b144489bc2.mp3
- [AI dappertutto: chat, spesa, viaggi e lavoro. La vita diventa un prompt? – PoP #43](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/4c5632b6194c) (2025-11-14, 59 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/111178999/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-10-14%2F412475550-44100-2-d48f55dc47f8a.mp3
- [Data center in orbita, 52 pagine di accuse per Altman, Siri si salva con Gemini – PoP #42](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/c735ddace778) (2025-11-07, 50 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/110834471/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-10-7%2F410789043-44100-2-31f864d4594f.mp3
- [Robot a 20k$ in casa tua, NVIDIA valutazione da brividi, Bending Spoons li compra tutti – PoP #41](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/144036f347b6) (2025-10-31, 65 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/110497754/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-9-31%2F410344241-44100-2-201bcbb3fd197.mp3
- [ChatGPT 18+, Google KO con Atlas di OpenAI? Amazon sceglie i robot: 600k posti a rischio? – PoP #40](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/7f382304481d) (2025-10-24, 54 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/110146142/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-9-24%2F409883358-44100-2-556b9d481681d.mp3
- [OpenAI ruba il Web e svela i TOP 30, bolla tech SBOOM, Grok uccide Wikipedia? – PoP #39](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/c86aba56cf71) (2025-10-10, 64 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/109492870/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-9-10%2F409027326-44100-2-b9863ea858d93.mp3
- [Il TikTok dei deepfake, milioni facili con il vibe coding, litigate di coppia? C'è ChatGPT – PoP #38](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/1e7f5189ac3f) (2025-10-03, 62 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/109172854/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-9-3%2F408610665-44100-2-1fdcf6d80b787.mp3
- [Tre uomini e un prompt, 100 Mld per dominare l’AI, perché nudisti e surfisti odiano Elon – PoP #37](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/35b18e388e58) (2025-09-26, 68 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/108855198/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-8-26%2F408199015-44100-2-7fae65e7ed626.mp3
- [Banane, banane AI ovunque, cena tech alla Casa Bianca, chi è l’uomo più ricco del mondo? – PoP #36](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/e0f9f79823fc) (2025-09-12, 63 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/108213924/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-8-12%2F407372413-44100-2-fa74e48ea60f6.mp3
- [Grok IV ti riempie di insulti, Nvidia boom, BitChat uccide WhatsApp? – PoP #35](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/7948e452a147) (2025-07-11, 54 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/105366757/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-6-11%2F403740134-44100-2-deda239696f77.mp3
- [50 Mln per sposarsi a Venezia, la band AI che conquista Spotify, ChatGPT funziona ancora? – PoP #34](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/0d71ced53b9f) (2025-07-04, 55 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/105029098/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-6-4%2F403309458-44100-2-e0a912b467dfb.mp3
- [Cambieresti lavoro per 100 Mln? Streamer digitali conquistano la Cina, bolla AI o realtà? – PoP #33](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/2974179b5d01) (2025-06-20, 70 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/104399871/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-5-20%2F402504881-44100-2-69c391e5fe9f.mp3
- [Veo 3 spacca tutto, Musk fa marcia indietro, ChatGPT perde a scacchi – PoP #32](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/d16ee2c9433a) (2025-06-13, 65 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/104085521/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-5-13%2F402106694-44100-2-4b0e49847b8db.mp3
- [La profetessa dell’AI, la Cina controlla il meteo, l’AI corre, ma l’Italia è ferma – PoP #31](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/54f89e8b79e5) (2025-06-06, 52 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/103760128/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-5-6%2F401700892-44100-2-9593269e6375c.mp3
- [Musk flop totale? Vita da Founder: mito o realtà? La GEO cambia il web: Google in pericolo? –PoP #30](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/09e26a7fb9b3) (2025-05-30, 52 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/103435469/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-4-30%2F401290379-44100-2-868a2fb31e15.mp3
- [OpenAI oltre lo smartphone, Google I/O in fiamme, guerra Tesla-Waymo: ospite Daniele Rielli –PoP #29](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/e7f4a5b67cd7) (2025-05-23, 75 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/103106999/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-4-26%2F401020569-44100-2-f6ea1a9ba0463.mp3
- [Cripto Boom, l’AI licenzia 7 mila dipendenti, search vs prompt, chi vincerà? – PoP #28](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/d5a69f40017b) (2025-05-16, 64 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/102764751/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-4-16%2F400419940-44100-2-13474727df112.mp3
- [Habemus Episodium XXVII: cervelli umani nel cloud, robot in rivolta, OpenAI al fianco dei governi](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/f71dcdd82f34) (2025-05-09, 59 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/102422132/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-4-9%2F399931577-44100-2-1584020fca4f4.mp3
- [Un chatbot per amico con Zuckerberg, esploriamo la mente di un'AI con Anthropic – PoP #26](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/bacc6a9c3469) (2025-05-02, 54 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/102086473/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-4-2%2F399476364-44100-2-3d15c15c39362.mp3
- [VIP in orbita con Blue Origin, l’AI minaccia il copyright, parleremo con i delfini? – PoP #25](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/eacf4430aad0) (2025-04-17, 59 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/101415510/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-3-17%2F398557914-44100-2-12f3f631b8412.mp3
- [Dazi per tutti, OpenAI fa il botto e investimenti belli e folli con Stefano Bernardi – PoP #24](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/97914005cf5a) (2025-04-04, 66 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/100834290/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-3-4%2F397816106-44100-2-1f01521bbab47.mp3
- [Ologrammi ai concerti, H&M sostituisce modelli con l'AI e la città-fabbrica di BYD – PoP #23](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/bed620c37dbf) (2025-03-28, 63 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/100467959/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-2-27%2F397351298-44100-2-43e626d0034cf.mp3
- [Il Super Bowl dell’AI, Perplexity prende in giro Google AI, Wiz acquisita per 32 mld – PoP #22](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/200c755258b8) (2025-03-21, 56 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/100174036/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-2-21%2F396977690-44100-2-0f421c38023d3.mp3
- [Tinder e l'AI per il flirt, Meta copia X, la fine degli agenti immobiliari – PoP #21](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/fb19b263062d) (2025-03-14, 60 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/99853786/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-2-14%2F396572368-44100-2-fc8f0a8d81982.mp3
- [AI che seducono, agenti AI da $20.000 e il futuro delle auto senza pilota – PoP #20](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/89f27b8e9716) (2025-03-07, 53 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/99518321/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-2-7%2F396152236-44100-2-0755331542c48.mp3
- [Musk minaccia i federali, Amazon lancia Alexa+, l'arrivo di Grok 3 – PoP #19](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/56b5beca0856) (2025-02-28, 63 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/99178921/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-1-28%2F395726346-44100-2-2a2d4b74b3112.mp3
- [Musk offre 100 Miliardi per OpenAI, primo Amazon Store in Italia, ChatGPT spoilera Sanremo – PoP #18](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/b025d65fdd68) (2025-02-13, 65 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/98452664/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-1-13%2F394821506-44100-2-8665f2e9b16ba.mp3
- [AI Act e Big Tech: l’Europa frena mentre Google e OpenAI accelerano – PoP #17](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1790406372/c6b4f8a48c2d) (2025-02-10, 55 min): audio https://anchor.fm/s/fe7d1028/podcast/play/98286071/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-1-10%2F394611972-44100-2-86295193fe33e.mp3
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