# Points of Vibration (with Conan O'Brien and Allen Stare)

An episode of [The Severance Podcast with Ben Stiller & Adam Scott](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1788381175), 26 Jun 2025, 1 h 05 min.

Audio: https://pdst.fm/e/tracking.swap.fm/track/v9Uiw3bGr54f6BVZKSyc/pscrb.fm/rss/p/serve.castfire.com/audio/8165396/8165396_2026-04-10-135236.192.mp3?rssID=5930

It's been a few months since the season two finale, but Ben and Adam just couldn't stay away from the mic. For their first episode back, they sit down with Conan O'Brien, a Severance superfan, to discuss how he inspired a pivotal scene from the finale, the fear and risk involved with making creative work, and they try to get to the bottom of why Ben wasn't invited to Conan's Mark Twain Prize event. Then, Ben and Adam talk with another Severace superfan -- Allen Stare, host of Severed: The Ultimate Severance Podcast -- about why he started a Severance podcast as his retirement hobby.

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