# Sawbonna: Victim-led Restorative Justice

An episode of [The Ben Mulroney Show](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1783348751), 22 Oct 2026, 24 min.

Audio: https://pdst.fm/e/traffic.megaphone.fm/CORU9140872749.mp3

On today's episode of "The Ben Mulroney Show," Ben welcomes Margot Van Sluytman, developer of the SAWBONNA process. Sawbonna is a victim-led restorative justice and social healing model grounded in the Zulu greeting Sawbonna (meaning "I see you" or shared humanity), the framework shifts justice away from purely retributive systems and into an experiential, relationship-empowering process. If you enjoyed the podcast, tell a friend! For more of the Ben Mulroney Show, subscribe to the podcast! https://link.chtbl.com/bms Also, on youtube -- https://www.youtube.com/@BenMulroneyShow Follow Ben on Twitter/X at https://x.com/BenMulroney Insta: @benmulroneyshow Twitter: @benmulroneyshow TikTok: @benmulroneyshow Executive Producer: Mike Drolet Reach out to Mike with story ideas or tips at mike.drolet@corusent.com Enjoy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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