# #12: “Us” vs “Them”, zombies, beauty and awe | Robert Sapolsky Father-Offspring Interviews

An episode of [Robert Sapolsky | Father-Offspring Interviews](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1782280922), 28 Nov 2024, 16 min.

Audio: https://anchor.fm/s/1029ca3e4/podcast/play/100062249/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-2-19%2F396834317-48000-2-ece0f5c01606e0f1.mp3

Episode 12 of Father-Offspring Interviews. This video touches on the “us” vs “them” mindset, Taylor Swift in a Zombie Apocalypse, beauty in nature, and more.

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