# MANSON VIBES?? | S49 Ep 4

An episode of [Making The Merge - Survivor Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1770945758), 16 Oct 2025, 48 min.

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Week 4 is upon us and the tribes have been shaken up. This week we discuss if Shannon is a secret cult leader, and how MC continues to dominate in challenges, and Jonathan has something important to say... or sing Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/cw/Survivorpodcast

## Transcript

[0:03] Speaker 1: Gina gin up, Gina.
[0:08] Speaker 2: Brand. This is making the merge.
[0:14] Speaker 3: We can windness.
[0:16] Speaker 4: I'm a dog person hours now buying them up. Let's
[0:19] Speaker 4: knock them down. Your dog was sick.
[0:21] Speaker 1: Guyamh, I'm coming over and over.
[0:24] Speaker 2: You know, crack back man.
[0:29] Speaker 4: To read in.
[0:35] Speaker 1: It's not about a million dollars.
[0:38] Speaker 4: All I want to do is win million hearts.
[0:46] Speaker 2: Great job, brand Brand.
[0:48] Speaker 5: It's a well remix, a remix the Brandon with with
[0:53] Speaker 5: the with the bells over the hearts, hearts, hearts, hearts hearts.
[0:56] Speaker 2: Welcome to making the merge. My name is p D. Bachman.
[0:59] Speaker 2: I'm joined by Chase Bridges, Jonathan Wright, and Brandon with
[1:02] Speaker 2: the bells.
[1:03] Speaker 4: That's right, Brandon with the bells. Everybody say their name,
[1:08] Speaker 4: your name?
[1:08] Speaker 2: Oh? Is this because of that person who thinks the same.
[1:11] Speaker 6: We've gotten We've got We've gotten like five people to
[1:13] Speaker 6: be like, I don't know who is who's that's right?
[1:16] Speaker 2: That just means you're new to the podcast and you
[1:18] Speaker 2: haven't tried that hard.
[1:19] Speaker 4: And what we don't want is new listeners. Yeah, dude,
[1:23] Speaker 4: out with the new, in with the old.
[1:25] Speaker 6: I'm Chase, I'm Jonathan, I'm PD.
[1:31] Speaker 4: We knew that p D. Why would you say that again?
[1:33] Speaker 6: Yeah, dude, come on, man, we just said we're out
[1:35] Speaker 6: with the out with the new.
[1:37] Speaker 2: I'm PD and my voice doesn't sound the same as
[1:39] Speaker 2: any of you, in my opinion. I don't know. Maybe
[1:42] Speaker 2: maybe that's just because I'm a white guy and can
[1:44] Speaker 2: differentiate my voice from other white guys.
[1:47] Speaker 5: But I do feel confused when people say that we
[1:50] Speaker 5: all sound the same. I wonder because it's just the
[1:53] Speaker 5: cadence that we're talking at, you know.
[1:55] Speaker 2: I think, yeah, this is what it is, And this
[2:01] Speaker 2: is the thing that happens with podcasts. You listen to
[2:04] Speaker 2: four new voices. Sometimes it's difficult to differentiate.
[2:09] Speaker 7: Yeah, and then sometimes one is very obvious for the
[2:12] Speaker 7: entire episode, and everyone's going to have a friend, Well,
[2:16] Speaker 7: what are you going to do when I do this brand,
[2:20] Speaker 7: You're really like, Okay, I can play this game.
[2:24] Speaker 4: No, No, I dang it, it's not that voice. I
[2:28] Speaker 4: do have a hard time.
[2:29] Speaker 5: I kind of can can sympathize with this because I
[2:31] Speaker 5: listened to U Seth Myers and his brother. They have
[2:34] Speaker 5: a podcast, and they already look alike and they sound
[2:38] Speaker 5: identical Sody from that seventies show. Oh yeah, yeah, that's
[2:43] Speaker 5: Randy dude, I forgot, uh what the other Myers brother's
[2:48] Speaker 5: name was.
[2:48] Speaker 6: And you guys come check out me and Jonathan's that
[2:50] Speaker 6: seventy show podcast over on the Bramble Jam Network.
[2:53] Speaker 4: I would do it at a heartbeat.
[2:55] Speaker 8: I can't wait to hear how you guys skirt around
[2:59] Speaker 8: what's his name?
[3:03] Speaker 2: You've got some things you'll have to hide, so.
[3:07] Speaker 6: The scientologist special brother. Alright, let's talk about survivor do.
[3:12] Speaker 2: You want to crack open this coconut? Alright? The crack
[3:17] Speaker 2: open this coconut. So because of a secret incident and
[3:20] Speaker 2: a subsequent challenge loss, the Blue Tribe only has two
[3:24] Speaker 2: people on it, and those people are Baldy and Alex
[3:29] Speaker 2: and it seems bleak, but they're in it to win
[3:31] Speaker 2: it together. Guys. They seem to be really bonded by
[3:34] Speaker 2: this experience. It's like Bobby John and Steph, but less
[3:37] Speaker 2: mental illness and less slurs.
[3:39] Speaker 4: And there was not one R word. Know what you do?
[3:44] Speaker 6: It like?
[3:45] Speaker 4: This doesn't feel right.
[3:47] Speaker 2: Baldy says it's been miserable so far and the only
[3:50] Speaker 2: way to go is up. And then right after she
[3:53] Speaker 2: says that the ocean takes their boat and the ocean
[3:56] Speaker 2: takes Sophie's shoe, So I don't know shoe banded brother.
[4:01] Speaker 4: Still with us, you know? But are we sure he.
[4:04] Speaker 8: Didn't die and he's not haunting the the island now?
[4:08] Speaker 3: I've been thinking about it, hear me out, Merman, Mrman, Jake, Mrman, Merman,
[4:17] Speaker 3: are you saying there is a separate Murman or that
[4:20] Speaker 3: Jake because of the secret bite, turned.
[4:22] Speaker 4: Into a Herman?
[4:23] Speaker 6: He is now exactly like a Stagnerman situation.
[4:27] Speaker 4: Like I like the ghost theory.
[4:31] Speaker 8: Hey, did you guys know I've found this out on
[4:33] Speaker 8: the on Fire podcast. Uh that apparently there's not a
[4:37] Speaker 8: test you can do to see if there's venom inside
[4:40] Speaker 8: of you.
[4:41] Speaker 6: WHOA, I've got a test?
[4:43] Speaker 4: Did you wake up this morning? Right, fella?
[4:46] Speaker 9: Yeah?
[4:46] Speaker 4: Yeah?
[4:47] Speaker 8: I think that was part of the real like we
[4:49] Speaker 8: talked about, like surprised, right, part of the reason why
[4:53] Speaker 8: they had let him back is you have to watch
[4:55] Speaker 8: them for like up to six hours just to make
[4:59] Speaker 8: sure because it can be a lay response because there's
[5:01] Speaker 8: not a test, and so once you've been out for
[5:03] Speaker 8: six hours, I think.
[5:05] Speaker 5: They're like, is his blood the consistency of Jello.
[5:09] Speaker 4: Turning into snake? He's just laying there and his tongue
[5:13] Speaker 4: just starts flapping around.
[5:14] Speaker 5: You're like, oh, I'm a slithery, slithery.
[5:19] Speaker 2: Spooky season and you got mad at me for millennial stuff.
[5:22] Speaker 5: And he just said that, dude, that's a literal YouTube
[5:25] Speaker 5: video from years and years ago.
[5:27] Speaker 2: Yeah, a millennial ass.
[5:28] Speaker 4: I know, what do you want for me? I'm just
[5:31] Speaker 4: making a reference. Pet.
[5:33] Speaker 6: I feel like I need to make a statement again
[5:35] Speaker 6: this week. I know I've been making a lot of statements,
[5:38] Speaker 6: but in our Patreon chat last night, everybody said I
[5:40] Speaker 6: give millennial energy, and I just want to shut this
[5:44] Speaker 6: down real quick. So I am making a formal statement
[5:49] Speaker 6: that the next person that calls me a millennial is
[5:51] Speaker 6: getting banned from the Patreon.
[5:53] Speaker 4: Wow.
[5:54] Speaker 2: You know in the last podcast you sang a train.
[5:57] Speaker 6: Song ironic when someone does something for comedy that doesn't
[6:03] Speaker 6: make it true to their character.
[6:05] Speaker 5: Yeah, it's pretty That's why I can reference the snake
[6:09] Speaker 5: video and things. You're okay, but we are a millennial.
[6:14] Speaker 5: But I like to think of myself as the cool millennial.
[6:19] Speaker 4: Every millennial thinks they're the.
[6:20] Speaker 5: Cool millennial millennialsand thinks I'm a cool millennial.
[6:26] Speaker 4: He says it like that, too. Yeah, so what so
[6:31] Speaker 4: what happens next PD?
[6:33] Speaker 2: I'm just a small girl, you know. It's it might
[6:38] Speaker 2: seem a little early for this, but believe it or not,
[6:41] Speaker 2: it's challenged time with Chase.
[6:43] Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope it's.
[6:48] Speaker 6: And it looks like this challenge is setting people up
[6:51] Speaker 6: to be in payers. What psych, This isn't a challenge
[6:55] Speaker 6: at all. They built this whole thing as a prank.
[6:59] Speaker 6: A We spent an afternoon putting this together just for
[7:02] Speaker 6: Jeff to be like, psych, we're changing up the tribes.
[7:06] Speaker 5: He said in this moment, we were never doing a.
[7:11] Speaker 4: Challenge Survivor Survivor fake out.
[7:13] Speaker 5: The Survivor fake out. We were never doing a challenge.
[7:16] Speaker 5: Do you believe that? I don't believe it.
[7:20] Speaker 2: He's like, we did all this just to show how
[7:22] Speaker 2: you guys are idiots and anything can happen in Survivor.
[7:26] Speaker 8: I mean, I guess I just think, you know, we
[7:30] Speaker 8: wasted a ton of materials to prove the pot So
[7:33] Speaker 8: what if, well what if next week they h we
[7:36] Speaker 8: walk out of the challenge and we're like, hey, wait
[7:38] Speaker 8: a second, I recognize those challenge things.
[7:43] Speaker 4: They reused the challenge from last week.
[7:45] Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought that was so interesting that he was like,
[7:48] Speaker 6: we never were going to do a challenge. But also
[7:50] Speaker 6: in the same kind of conversation, he was like, you know,
[7:53] Speaker 6: it was always the plan for us to switch tribes,
[7:55] Speaker 6: but because of Jake's incident, we're switching up the tribes
[7:59] Speaker 6: earlyer than we thought. And I was like, oh, well,
[8:01] Speaker 6: you didn't plan for it to happen this early.
[8:05] Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, And so I mean planned to
[8:07] Speaker 4: not have a challenge.
[8:08] Speaker 2: Ye, well he planned on it being at fourteen. It's
[8:11] Speaker 2: just fourteen came early. So they got they were going
[8:14] Speaker 2: to do this fake out. They had it ready to
[8:16] Speaker 2: go for in a few weeks. They had the fake
[8:19] Speaker 2: I ready to go. So we do get a tribe
[8:20] Speaker 2: shake up, and it's good.
[8:23] Speaker 8: You know sometimes you see a tribe shake up and
[8:26] Speaker 8: it's like, you know, like a couple of people move.
[8:30] Speaker 8: This is true a tribe and true yeah, shakeup.
[8:36] Speaker 6: Nw Kella has four from the original Yellow tribe, but
[8:41] Speaker 6: I'll do the breakdowns of the new tribe real quick.
[8:43] Speaker 6: So Nukena has Juwan, Nate Rizzo, Savannah, Jason Matt and
[8:51] Speaker 6: Baldy Sophie Baldy. Nu Kella has Christina mc Sophie Stephen Say,
[9:00] Speaker 6: Shannon and Alex. Now, what's very interesting and the reason
[9:05] Speaker 6: that I predicted that either Baldi or Alex was going
[9:08] Speaker 6: to go home in this episode is they are both
[9:12] Speaker 6: on the Blue tribe that got down to just two
[9:15] Speaker 6: people and they got separated, so they were truly by
[9:19] Speaker 6: themselves on both of their new tribes. But what PD
[9:23] Speaker 6: pointed out correctly before the episode in our chat is
[9:27] Speaker 6: that it's kind of a great position to be in
[9:30] Speaker 6: because the majority that needs the numbers kind of pulls
[9:34] Speaker 6: you into their alliance because you're the you're the flip vote.
[9:39] Speaker 2: They're floating out there as the free agent, and then
[9:42] Speaker 2: the other two big tribes just want to go to
[9:44] Speaker 2: war with each other. Yeah. So what I'm saying what
[9:47] Speaker 2: we saw, yeah, yam yam. Sophia is yamyam. That's what
[9:51] Speaker 2: I'm saying.
[9:52] Speaker 4: Sophia is yamim.
[9:53] Speaker 6: Sophie Baldy or Sophie doctor Detective cigarette now myself detective
[9:59] Speaker 6: cigarette is on the case.
[10:04] Speaker 4: Man. That is a sexy what I love that?
[10:07] Speaker 1: Yeah?
[10:08] Speaker 4: Cool, it's good.
[10:11] Speaker 2: I ran through like thirty something sax sloops in uh
[10:14] Speaker 2: in garage band, the one Let's go to the Newhena tribe.
[10:18] Speaker 2: Rizzo says, if you're too comfortable, you need to get uncomfortable,
[10:22] Speaker 2: and what better way to get uncomfortable than swapping tribes.
[10:25] Speaker 2: But even though he doesn't have his vote yet, he's
[10:27] Speaker 2: not uncomfortable because he's on the Majority Alliance, so he's
[10:30] Speaker 2: gonna have help. And then Baldy is thrilled to be there,
[10:33] Speaker 2: even though she's not on the majority Alliance. She's just
[10:36] Speaker 2: so happy to be around fire and coconuts and you know,
[10:41] Speaker 2: just things in general, because she didn't have any of
[10:43] Speaker 2: that on the Blue tribe. Blue is a dump. But
[10:46] Speaker 2: Shannon's vibes are as high as they've ever been. You know,
[10:49] Speaker 2: they're all getting to know each other. And Shannon tells
[10:51] Speaker 2: her tribe that she runs a high ViBe's women's community,
[10:55] Speaker 2: so you know, if anybody's trying to breathe, she's your girl. Uh,
[11:00] Speaker 2: and she loves a good tequila shot. We also found out.
[11:05] Speaker 6: Yeah and horses. Yeah, I America girl energy right away.
[11:12] Speaker 6: Oh man, but she's a cool horse girl.
[11:17] Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true.
[11:19] Speaker 2: Uh, Steven is a genius. And then Sage, dude, I'm.
[11:26] Speaker 5: There's not an episode that has gone by where I
[11:28] Speaker 5: don't really wish that the dice had let me have
[11:31] Speaker 5: somebody else, Sage.
[11:33] Speaker 4: It's worked out for.
[11:35] Speaker 2: Yoursel after last week the friends thing.
[11:38] Speaker 4: You don't go.
[11:39] Speaker 5: There was that moment where I was like, maybe I'm
[11:41] Speaker 5: glad I have Sage. But then there's the moment where
[11:44] Speaker 5: she has the opportunity to completely reset with this group,
[11:49] Speaker 5: and the first thing she says is, well, I just
[11:54] Speaker 5: figured I would let you guys know like that. You know,
[11:56] Speaker 5: this kind of lets you know my personality. I really
[11:59] Speaker 5: like blackheads, but I like them so much that I
[12:02] Speaker 5: keep them for a little while in the jar.
[12:04] Speaker 4: And I'm like, why would that be the first thing?
[12:07] Speaker 4: Does she say that to every.
[12:11] Speaker 6: When she was in school and they made her say
[12:13] Speaker 6: her name in a fun fact about herself, That's what
[12:15] Speaker 6: I'm saying. It's like, yeah, I will say though that
[12:19] Speaker 6: In this episode, we get to kind of peak the
[12:22] Speaker 6: curtain back a little bit on her weird, weird girl energy,
[12:27] Speaker 6: and we see that she's actually a pretty strong player.
[12:30] Speaker 4: This is true.
[12:31] Speaker 6: She's thinking aggressive and looking at people, particularly Shannon, and
[12:37] Speaker 6: the way that Shannon's playing the game by kind of
[12:40] Speaker 6: using faith and spiritualism to try to win over some
[12:44] Speaker 6: new friends on the New tribe and Sage is like,
[12:48] Speaker 6: I'm not buying it. I think she's manipulating people in
[12:51] Speaker 6: playing she's got sp hey, man, can I say anything
[12:58] Speaker 6: without all that?
[13:00] Speaker 2: I think normally it could be spirituality. I guess it's interchangeable.
[13:07] Speaker 2: Not very spiritual stuff coming from Chase right now, but.
[13:11] Speaker 5: Depends on which spiritual part you know, But it's you know,
[13:15] Speaker 5: I I agree though that that whole uh like meditation
[13:19] Speaker 5: on the beach thing Brand the whole time is happening.
[13:22] Speaker 5: I was like, Brand's gonna hate this.
[13:24] Speaker 8: Well, it's hard because like I'm fine.
[13:29] Speaker 4: With it, right, Like there is something.
[13:33] Speaker 10: Something tells me he's not no, no, no, no, you hear what
[13:36] Speaker 10: I'm saying.
[13:36] Speaker 4: Do that on your own time.
[13:38] Speaker 6: Just don't get kids.
[13:41] Speaker 4: Children.
[13:42] Speaker 8: I think the hard thing about survivors kids are on
[13:46] Speaker 8: the beach.
[13:48] Speaker 4: Somebody, there's somebody where we're all somebody's kid.
[13:51] Speaker 5: I remember somehow children at heart, you know.
[13:54] Speaker 8: They're the thing about survivor is you never want to
[13:56] Speaker 8: be alone, right or you never want to be like
[13:59] Speaker 8: and you So when someone says, hey, you know, I'm
[14:02] Speaker 8: going to be doing a little meditating on the beach,
[14:04] Speaker 8: I'm gonna be working through it. If anybody wants to come.
[14:07] Speaker 8: It's kind of like it's a mandate at that point,
[14:10] Speaker 8: like it's not optional.
[14:11] Speaker 4: So once a couple people do it, you're like, Okay,
[14:14] Speaker 4: I gotta do it.
[14:14] Speaker 8: And I this was the first episode where I really
[14:21] Speaker 8: liked Alex. I thought Alex was really funny during this
[14:26] Speaker 8: entire meditation thing, And at first I was like, oh,
[14:30] Speaker 8: this is just a clever edit.
[14:32] Speaker 4: But then they kept showing him just like.
[14:35] Speaker 8: Even wide shocks of everybody doing the meditation stuff and
[14:39] Speaker 8: him just looking annoyed and just being like I can't
[14:41] Speaker 8: believe I have to be here right now for this.
[14:43] Speaker 2: Uh.
[14:44] Speaker 4: And I loved it. I thought it was so funny.
[14:47] Speaker 8: But they're like I, I, but again, I am fine
[14:50] Speaker 8: with a meditation on the beach or something back on
[14:55] Speaker 8: a higher power.
[14:58] Speaker 4: Wow. Wow. Yeah. I mean that's the thing.
[15:01] Speaker 5: Is it feels like she's just using it. Yeah, But
[15:05] Speaker 5: I mean, of course it's hard to know someone's motives completely,
[15:07] Speaker 5: but it's like, it does feel like she's using that
[15:12] Speaker 5: to try to like, I don't even know what she's
[15:15] Speaker 5: trying to do.
[15:16] Speaker 2: She's trying to get everyone's vibes up.
[15:19] Speaker 6: Yeah, but no, she's the one whose parents own the
[15:22] Speaker 6: Survivor Cafe.
[15:23] Speaker 4: The bar interesting.
[15:25] Speaker 6: You know, if I grew up with good, like if
[15:27] Speaker 6: I if I grew up with money, I think I
[15:28] Speaker 6: would be super spiritual, right, but the dreads.
[15:35] Speaker 5: It's easy to think meditation works when you don't have
[15:38] Speaker 5: a hard time in life.
[15:39] Speaker 4: You know. Yeah, It's like, dude, when I spend.
[15:41] Speaker 6: Twenty minutes on the beach, just kind of thinking, Mother Earth.
[15:44] Speaker 4: Good things happen for me. I get the Survivor Bar.
[15:49] Speaker 2: Stephen was calling her out for being kind of like
[15:52] Speaker 2: a cult leader.
[15:54] Speaker 4: I joked last night of the.
[15:56] Speaker 5: Patreon chat you can join us on Patreon, I said
[15:59] Speaker 5: that she was gonna the Charles Manson of the trial.
[16:03] Speaker 4: They're gonna work together and start killing people.
[16:05] Speaker 10: Well see, they're gonna start voting people out, but she's
[16:10] Speaker 10: gonna do it from like an advising role where she's
[16:12] Speaker 10: gonna tell people to go vote them out, and then
[16:14] Speaker 10: she's not gonna actually do any of the voting herself.
[16:18] Speaker 2: So Shannon is just you know, she's on the beach
[16:21] Speaker 2: helping people breathe, and then Jonathan thinks that she's a
[16:24] Speaker 2: psychotic criminal.
[16:26] Speaker 5: I can't help it that I've been reading about these
[16:29] Speaker 5: things in a book right now.
[16:30] Speaker 6: So it's wait, hold on, hold on and stop stop stop.
[16:35] Speaker 6: You're reading a book about Charles Manson right now.
[16:37] Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, And so the investigator read and that's the
[16:43] Speaker 2: same person I'm watching on Surrivor.
[16:45] Speaker 6: You're the kind of person that, like, you watch a
[16:48] Speaker 6: documentary on something and then the next day everything you
[16:50] Speaker 6: see is like, man, this is just like that documentary.
[16:52] Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
[16:54] Speaker 5: I don't mean to sound alarming, but she's just like
[16:57] Speaker 5: Charles Man's.
[16:58] Speaker 4: Yeah, I gotta be honest, you you gotta.
[17:02] Speaker 8: I'd be on high alert if I was back at
[17:04] Speaker 8: base camp. You never know, she's gonna She's not gonna
[17:07] Speaker 8: do any of the killing that And that's the thing
[17:09] Speaker 8: I don't Again.
[17:10] Speaker 4: I don't want to have too much of the connection.
[17:11] Speaker 5: But she keeps referring to her family and Charles Manson's called.
[17:18] Speaker 4: The family.
[17:19] Speaker 5: If you read the book, you'd only know that if
[17:22] Speaker 5: you read any books.
[17:23] Speaker 2: Okay, and this has nothing to do with what I'm
[17:26] Speaker 2: reading or watching, but Jonathan reminds me a lot of O. J.
[17:29] Speaker 2: Simpson's Law.
[17:32] Speaker 4: Robert car.
[17:36] Speaker 2: Uh. Getting back to Steve and Stephen called Shannon a
[17:40] Speaker 2: shark in a spiritual guru's body. WHOA So maybe something
[17:45] Speaker 2: manson theory is accurate. Who knows?
[17:47] Speaker 8: I love like I love that Steven and a lot
[17:50] Speaker 8: of people on Survivor do this, but Stephen's like, I
[17:54] Speaker 8: like her.
[17:54] Speaker 4: Okay, I just hate everything about it, but I love her.
[18:01] Speaker 4: But gosh, I wish she was dead.
[18:04] Speaker 5: That's me when people ask what's Chase like?
[18:06] Speaker 4: You know, hey, man, that was a good one.
[18:14] Speaker 2: On the new Heena tribe, Sophie, Sophie Baldy pitches herself
[18:19] Speaker 2: as a number to the four Uli members because that's
[18:22] Speaker 2: the only real option for at this point. She said,
[18:24] Speaker 2: people look at me like a lost puppy, and you
[18:26] Speaker 2: don't want to leave a lost puppy out alone. You
[18:28] Speaker 2: want to adopt the lost puppy. And that's what Baldi wants.
[18:31] Speaker 2: She just wants to be adopted by somebody and have
[18:34] Speaker 2: them love her in the game. That's what she said. Hey,
[18:38] Speaker 2: don't think Savannah is the one to adopt her?
[18:40] Speaker 4: I think so. Yeah.
[18:42] Speaker 5: I don't mean to sound alarming, but now.
[18:47] Speaker 2: Let's get back to Charles Manson.
[18:49] Speaker 5: I'm not gonna say that it isn't connected with Charles Manson.
[18:52] Speaker 4: Charles Manson have a dog.
[18:54] Speaker 5: He didn't, but he did adopt a lot of people
[18:58] Speaker 5: lost puppy.
[19:00] Speaker 4: You're onto something, dude.
[19:02] Speaker 2: I think, come on to it. So Savannah is Charles Manson.
[19:05] Speaker 5: No, I'm saying all of them might be. We never
[19:08] Speaker 5: really know who Charles Manson is until he's too late.
[19:12] Speaker 8: We're all kind of Charles Manson if you really think
[19:15] Speaker 8: about it.
[19:16] Speaker 4: You know, I've thought about it, and I don't think
[19:17] Speaker 4: that's true. Okay, great.
[19:19] Speaker 2: You know in two weeks me and Chase are going
[19:21] Speaker 2: to go to the Survivor bar. What if we see
[19:23] Speaker 2: Shannon and have to answer for this?
[19:26] Speaker 6: Yeah, hey, I heard you guys talking about my CMEME,
[19:30] Speaker 6: my Charles Manson energy.
[19:32] Speaker 5: Look, Charles Manson was apparently Why are we talking about
[19:36] Speaker 5: because of you?
[19:36] Speaker 4: You brought it up?
[19:38] Speaker 5: Y'all Stop bringing up Charles Manson.
[19:40] Speaker 4: Please, sorry, read.
[19:42] Speaker 5: I can't handle Charles Manon.
[19:44] Speaker 4: I got a friend who's reading a book about him.
[19:45] Speaker 4: I can't stop talking about. I have an acquaintance that
[19:49] Speaker 4: is reading a book.
[19:50] Speaker 2: About on the New Heenus, Nate is sad he misses
[19:53] Speaker 2: his kids.
[19:54] Speaker 4: Uh.
[19:55] Speaker 2: Baldy was there to comfort Nate, and so she's really
[19:58] Speaker 2: endearing herself now to Vanna and Nate, seems like Baldy's
[20:02] Speaker 2: set up for success. And then we have Savannah, who
[20:04] Speaker 2: wants to connect with Jason and Matt the old Hena members.
[20:07] Speaker 2: She notices Jason is pretty upfront about his love for
[20:10] Speaker 2: his old tribe and dance Dance Revolution, but at least
[20:13] Speaker 2: he's being honest about it, and she doesn't like what
[20:17] Speaker 2: she hears from Matt and brand. Why don't you explain
[20:21] Speaker 2: what the reporter took issue with?
[20:23] Speaker 8: Oh yeah, so he comes clean about his previous occupation,
[20:29] Speaker 8: which was in what he says is I was in finance,
[20:33] Speaker 8: right Like, he doesn't like finan He doesn't really get
[20:36] Speaker 8: into it, and you would think that he said that
[20:39] Speaker 8: he was Charles Benson. I've never met someone in finance
[20:45] Speaker 8: that I can trust. They're always the absolute worst people,
[20:48] Speaker 8: the absolute the just the depravity of man on showcase
[20:52] Speaker 8: in the finance department of every business. She hates the
[20:56] Speaker 8: finance department and very much a red flag for her
[21:01] Speaker 8: that mattch decided, maybe I agree with her, I'm gonna
[21:07] Speaker 8: leave finance.
[21:08] Speaker 4: She didn't. She chose not to see it that way.
[21:11] Speaker 8: She chose to be like, hey, once in finance always finance.
[21:15] Speaker 5: See, yeah, I'm like, you know, maybe him growing out
[21:20] Speaker 5: his own dreads and moving airplane ramps instead of being
[21:24] Speaker 5: in finance management would speak to the fact that he
[21:27] Speaker 5: also did not like being finance.
[21:29] Speaker 4: Maybe ask hey, why did you end up leaving? Let
[21:33] Speaker 4: the guy tell his.
[21:34] Speaker 6: Would I would argue, you can't believe anything being said
[21:37] Speaker 6: on Survivor, So maybe in her mind she's like, I
[21:39] Speaker 6: don't even think he works at an airport. I think
[21:41] Speaker 6: he was just trying to cover up his finance stuff
[21:43] Speaker 6: so that we actually give him the million dollars when
[21:46] Speaker 6: he doesn't need it.
[21:47] Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
[21:49] Speaker 8: But he doesn't handle it great because at first he's like,
[21:51] Speaker 8: I wasn't sure if I was gonna tell you guys this,
[21:53] Speaker 8: and then they're like, why wouldn't she tell us tell
[21:56] Speaker 8: us about that? He was like, well, I mean like
[21:58] Speaker 8: I was always gonna tell if somebody asked.
[22:01] Speaker 4: I didn't know if somebody was gonna ask. He did, like,
[22:02] Speaker 4: and he did, and then he's like, I'm in finance,
[22:04] Speaker 4: so it was a weird.
[22:06] Speaker 8: Yeah, I would be a little bit skeptical of maybe
[22:08] Speaker 8: this guy's not being honest about what he currently does
[22:11] Speaker 8: because of the way that he responded when asked about
[22:13] Speaker 8: what he did.
[22:14] Speaker 2: Do, and then Savannah's take, which is, if you work
[22:17] Speaker 2: in finance and you're at the top, you are associopath
[22:20] Speaker 2: no matter what.
[22:21] Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree.
[22:24] Speaker 6: We get to see we get to see a lot
[22:25] Speaker 6: of Savannah in every episode.
[22:26] Speaker 4: We get to see a lot of Svana.
[22:28] Speaker 6: We gotta see a lot of Savannah and Rizzo kind
[22:31] Speaker 6: of working together.
[22:32] Speaker 4: They have a mad go od or is god baby. Yeah.
[22:35] Speaker 6: We haven't seen like a formal gathering, like a formal
[22:38] Speaker 6: alliance between these two, but they seem to be working together.
[22:40] Speaker 6: They seem to be really vibing, as Rizzo would say,
[22:44] Speaker 6: And uh, I think there's a big reason that these
[22:46] Speaker 6: two are the ones that come back for fifty.
[22:48] Speaker 4: I think they're gonna go really far. Yeah. Is that
[22:51] Speaker 4: a hot take?
[22:52] Speaker 6: Is that a hot take to say that I think
[22:53] Speaker 6: the two players are turning for video are gonna go far.
[22:55] Speaker 4: I think that we're we might end up with a
[22:59] Speaker 4: Joe and E. But I don't think they're the winners.
[23:02] Speaker 4: I really don't.
[23:03] Speaker 5: I think that we're about to get a power duo
[23:05] Speaker 5: that people are gonna love and that they I don't.
[23:08] Speaker 2: Know that they'll win though, Well, if not them who.
[23:11] Speaker 2: I think Baldy or mc.
[23:14] Speaker 6: Both good options, but I would prefer someone on my Steelers.
[23:19] Speaker 5: It's definitely someone those Steelers.
[23:20] Speaker 4: We know it's not Jake.
[23:22] Speaker 2: I think me and brand are winning regardless of if
[23:24] Speaker 2: it's the fifty people.
[23:27] Speaker 4: Shut up beat hey man.
[23:28] Speaker 6: That's some big talk from someone who hasn't won in
[23:30] Speaker 6: a few years.
[23:31] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[23:31] Speaker 2: I haven't won, but you know I got the dead
[23:35] Speaker 2: weight off my team this week. We'll get to that.
[23:40] Speaker 2: So took the offer. Amp Yeah, on the on the
[23:43] Speaker 2: Kela tribe. Let's get back to Shannon, our favorite person
[23:46] Speaker 2: to talk about in this episode. Shannon is not in
[23:49] Speaker 2: the majority tribe, but this is okay because she told
[23:52] Speaker 2: God she didn't need to be in the majority tribe.
[23:54] Speaker 2: She just needed to be brought to the people she's
[23:56] Speaker 2: meant to be with. And look, maybe it did work
[23:59] Speaker 2: out that way. Because Christina Mills has a good feeling
[24:02] Speaker 2: about Shannon. Christina doesn't think Shannon is a cult leader.
[24:05] Speaker 2: Christina said that she was sad that they didn't get
[24:08] Speaker 2: to keep the Hammocks, and then Shannon said, God gives
[24:12] Speaker 2: his hardest challenges to his strongest soldiers.
[24:15] Speaker 4: That's right, the hardest challenge being not having Yeah.
[24:20] Speaker 5: I love that she got that right off of an
[24:22] Speaker 5: arts and craft sign from Hobby.
[24:24] Speaker 6: It's like it's like before she showed up on the island,
[24:27] Speaker 6: she's like, Okay, I'm gonna be the spiritual person, the
[24:30] Speaker 6: religious person, but she doesn't have any actual like.
[24:34] Speaker 2: She went to hobby Lobby.
[24:35] Speaker 6: Yeah, she's just like, oh man, what would a religious
[24:38] Speaker 6: person say right now? You know, God gives his toughest
[24:40] Speaker 6: battles to his strongest soldier.
[24:42] Speaker 2: That's a meme. Yeah, that's become a meme.
[24:44] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[24:45] Speaker 5: Yeah, she's gonna at some point be like when we
[24:47] Speaker 5: were putting up the tower, I couldn't help but notice
[24:49] Speaker 5: there's only one pair of footprints in the sand, and
[24:52] Speaker 5: I realized that it was because they were carrying.
[24:54] Speaker 4: Me the whole time, right. I. I got a kick
[24:57] Speaker 4: out of like how.
[24:59] Speaker 8: Easy Christina like was I don't know, like pulled into
[25:06] Speaker 8: Shannon's orbit because back on the beach when they're doing
[25:09] Speaker 8: the meditation, she's like, you know what, I like shout
[25:14] Speaker 8: out Jesus basically like just naming things. And when Kristin
[25:18] Speaker 8: hears Jesus, Christin goes Christina. I think it grabs her
[25:22] Speaker 8: necklace and it's like yes, And it was like at
[25:25] Speaker 8: that point Kristin was like, she said Jesus that one time,
[25:31] Speaker 8: that's my I can trust her.
[25:32] Speaker 4: I can I can trust her with my life.
[25:35] Speaker 8: And uh yeah, it was an interesting move, like to
[25:41] Speaker 8: see how easy it was, like because after up, after
[25:44] Speaker 8: she says Jesus, Christin is all in sh on Shannon.
[25:50] Speaker 2: And Sage is not. Because Sage says she would love
[25:53] Speaker 2: to trust Shannon, but Shannon is laying it on a
[25:55] Speaker 2: little thick with the spirituality, said Shade towards her. But
[25:59] Speaker 2: she's been bringing it up a lot more on the
[26:01] Speaker 2: New Tribe. She thinks that because people are responding to
[26:04] Speaker 2: it more positively on the New Tribe, that she's just
[26:07] Speaker 2: like really planned it up.
[26:09] Speaker 5: Maybe they're more impressionable. Maybe they're gonna end up following her,
[26:14] Speaker 5: and maybe they're gonna end up doing some crimes on her. Behalf, Guys,
[26:19] Speaker 5: I don't mean to be taking this this far.
[26:21] Speaker 2: Maybe they're gonna go to Brad Pitt's house and after
[26:25] Speaker 2: he smokes an acid cigarette and thank's gonna be crazy.
[26:30] Speaker 6: Heck, yeah, dude, you know, I have a buddy that's
[26:32] Speaker 6: reading a book about that.
[26:34] Speaker 4: Oh really, you gotta give them that.
[26:37] Speaker 2: What's a fun time in Fiji?
[26:40] Speaker 4: Nice?
[26:41] Speaker 2: Thank you. Now it's time for us to actually go
[26:44] Speaker 2: to everybody's favorite part of the episode.
[26:47] Speaker 6: Yeah, hey man, guys, I don't know if this is
[26:52] Speaker 6: I don't know if this is everybody's favorite part of
[26:54] Speaker 6: the episode anymore. Guys, No, I don't know. I mean
[26:58] Speaker 6: this is so far this season, I don't think any
[27:00] Speaker 6: of the challenges have been good.
[27:01] Speaker 4: But this week, this week is ever episode. This challenge
[27:06] Speaker 4: was awesome.
[27:08] Speaker 6: It was way better than just a regular obstacle course. Basically,
[27:11] Speaker 6: what happens is you had to collect blocks on your
[27:13] Speaker 6: way across and then once you got to the end,
[27:15] Speaker 6: instead of a puzzle, you had to stack blocks up
[27:19] Speaker 6: like twenty high. And while it sounds really simple and
[27:22] Speaker 6: it doesn't sound exactly entertaining, it because of how high
[27:26] Speaker 6: they have to stack these blocks. It was a lot
[27:28] Speaker 6: of fun. We got to see people do some athletic
[27:32] Speaker 6: feats like MC.
[27:33] Speaker 4: Which was crazy, just crazy.
[27:36] Speaker 6: This challenge we got to see Nate really complain about
[27:40] Speaker 6: how heavy risk Good is when he had him on
[27:42] Speaker 6: his shoulders.
[27:43] Speaker 4: He just kept going out, give him the block.
[27:46] Speaker 2: And have you given? He looks like he weighs ninety pounds.
[27:50] Speaker 5: I can't do that.
[27:52] Speaker 4: Give him the blocks? Can?
[27:55] Speaker 8: I ask you guys your thoughts on Matt being the
[27:58] Speaker 8: one that was a sign and balancing.
[28:02] Speaker 5: Yeah, he's really bad at ramps for a guy who
[28:04] Speaker 5: does it as his profession.
[28:06] Speaker 8: I found it interesting that they would say, hey, oll
[28:08] Speaker 8: this guy here, show us what you got on the balancing.
[28:12] Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, I don't know.
[28:14] Speaker 5: Again, I thought it was just strange because this whole
[28:17] Speaker 5: time he's been like, I do airport ramps, and I
[28:20] Speaker 5: work with ramps, and I work with moving things down
[28:22] Speaker 5: and up ramps and moving the ramps themselves. Yet when
[28:26] Speaker 5: he went to walk down the slope of the balance
[28:29] Speaker 5: beam carrying we'll call it luggage for the sake of narrative,
[28:33] Speaker 5: he drops all of it and could not navigate the ramp.
[28:36] Speaker 4: So I wouldn't trust him with my back. I would think,
[28:38] Speaker 4: I'm still in finance, is what I would think.
[28:41] Speaker 8: I would have trusted small guy Jason like kind of
[28:44] Speaker 8: like lower to the grounds. Yeah I bet, Yeah, I
[28:48] Speaker 8: bet he could balance better.
[28:49] Speaker 4: But you know, what, do you know? I got another question?
[28:54] Speaker 8: Was it said, like could they have when they put
[28:58] Speaker 8: the block like a smaller blocks on top, right, And
[29:01] Speaker 8: that's when we start getting to where we got to
[29:04] Speaker 8: figure out because we're not high enough to get could
[29:06] Speaker 8: they not have like their phone blocks? Could you not
[29:11] Speaker 8: have lifted it one up or three up or whatever?
[29:15] Speaker 4: Yeah? I think that might have.
[29:16] Speaker 6: Been one of the rules that Jeff gives that we
[29:18] Speaker 6: didn't see on TV.
[29:19] Speaker 4: You have to go to the top, yeah yeah.
[29:23] Speaker 5: And I mean I saw people doing where they would
[29:25] Speaker 5: stack like three in their hand and then they will
[29:27] Speaker 5: try to put those three up top. So I guess
[29:30] Speaker 5: the thing was that they probably were not allowed to
[29:33] Speaker 5: work from the bottom.
[29:35] Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, which makes sense because that would be too easy.
[29:38] Speaker 4: I think we learned two big things in this challenge. One.
[29:42] Speaker 6: Savannah is also a huge challenge beast.
[29:46] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[29:46] Speaker 6: I mean she was doing the Michael Jordan logo on
[29:50] Speaker 6: someone's shoulders like a cheerleader and putting blocks on top.
[29:56] Speaker 6: She's incredible, man. I think if she doesn't win this game,
[30:00] Speaker 6: understand why she comes back for fifty. She might be
[30:02] Speaker 6: my favorite New Era player as.
[30:06] Speaker 2: Of right now, and about fifteen people, so yeah.
[30:10] Speaker 6: Yeah, and it'll change, it'll change.
[30:13] Speaker 4: I mean I was.
[30:13] Speaker 8: Just so impressed, once again by what MC was able
[30:17] Speaker 8: to do not only did EMC like have somebody on
[30:22] Speaker 8: like on her shoulders for a very long time, she
[30:25] Speaker 8: then got up there and like had the balance like.
[30:28] Speaker 4: Ye, she's like it was just very impressive.
[30:32] Speaker 8: Like yeah, to be a type of person that can
[30:34] Speaker 8: both hold someone on their shoulders for an extent amount
[30:37] Speaker 8: of time and then have the balance to stand on
[30:39] Speaker 8: top of somebody else, that's that's really impressive.
[30:43] Speaker 4: MC's incredible, guys.
[30:43] Speaker 8: There's plenty of room in the MCU for anybody that's
[30:46] Speaker 8: interested in coming.
[30:47] Speaker 2: And if they were able to just pick up the
[30:48] Speaker 2: blocks and put them under, I think MC would have
[30:50] Speaker 2: finished it a lot faster. But because they had to
[30:53] Speaker 2: bop up, bop to the top, well a little bit longer.
[30:57] Speaker 2: But she did a great job.
[30:58] Speaker 4: Would you say they wiped away there inhibition away my
[31:02] Speaker 4: into abitions? That's right, stra your stuff A nice.
[31:11] Speaker 6: New Kelly won the challenge thanks to MC and and
[31:16] Speaker 6: you know the absolute feat that she pulls off and yeah,
[31:21] Speaker 6: that's the.
[31:21] Speaker 4: End of the challenge. Gentlemen.
[31:23] Speaker 5: I had so much trouble watching this challenge because as
[31:28] Speaker 5: I'm watching it the whole time, I'm thinking, you know,
[31:30] Speaker 5: who would have been really helpful.
[31:32] Speaker 4: It would have been Jake. Jake would have been helpful.
[31:35] Speaker 2: Yeah, he could have. He would have been the number
[31:37] Speaker 2: one candidate to lift somebody up.
[31:38] Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. He has the stature and the ability.
[31:41] Speaker 5: But I've been for like the past week really contemplating
[31:45] Speaker 5: this whole theory that Brand had because I'm like, I
[31:47] Speaker 5: don't think my guy, the only guy that I would pick,
[31:50] Speaker 5: would just leave the game. I think that this is
[31:54] Speaker 5: actually kind of a plan. I really do think that
[31:57] Speaker 5: Jake left on purpose to be with his child. But
[31:59] Speaker 5: it's like torn about it and so not to not
[32:03] Speaker 5: to toot my own horn, but I decided to write
[32:05] Speaker 5: a little, a little little song about Jake and bring
[32:08] Speaker 5: things back around. And so, uh, Bran, wow, our first song.
[32:13] Speaker 5: I know, I know you Just when you thought the
[32:16] Speaker 5: stars were gone, the stars are back baby.
[32:19] Speaker 4: So, uh, Brian, would you cue.
[32:21] Speaker 5: Up my song about Jake Snake incident.
[32:25] Speaker 4: Making the Merge podcast?
[32:27] Speaker 2: That's perfect, nice song.
[32:29] Speaker 4: This one's for you, Jake.
[32:31] Speaker 11: Oh not so long ago, I remember how that Blue
[32:38] Speaker 11: Tried was falling all aboart know if I had the
[32:46] Speaker 11: chance side steal a human have a laugh, and maybe
[32:51] Speaker 11: they'd be searching for a while. The Fiji waters made
[32:59] Speaker 11: me shiver. With every team loss.
[33:02] Speaker 5: I remembered I was with my first born.
[33:08] Speaker 4: Then I saw news on.
[33:09] Speaker 11: The scene, sure, and I can't remember if I cried,
[33:16] Speaker 11: but Alex brought his binder by my side, and I
[33:21] Speaker 11: felt a fang deep inside.
[33:24] Speaker 1: The day the Sea Great bite, Bye bye to some nipple,
[33:38] Speaker 1: Pius guy saw a sea gret. Now I fear faith
[33:42] Speaker 1: and Jeff's right by my side.
[33:44] Speaker 11: Got tired of watch and failure from the Blue tribe.
[33:49] Speaker 11: So this will be the day that I die.
[33:54] Speaker 1: This will be the day that Jake dies.
[34:00] Speaker 5: Did you know the.
[34:02] Speaker 9: Sea grade is an elusive stink that most locals miss.
[34:07] Speaker 1: All the Phijians told a super.
[34:12] Speaker 9: I can't believe that I had to go, even if
[34:16] Speaker 9: my wife had told me, knowing that I would miss
[34:21] Speaker 9: my son's bird.
[34:25] Speaker 4: Well, I know was just a dry bike, but in my.
[34:30] Speaker 1: Heart of hearts, I just died.
[34:33] Speaker 2: So now I.
[34:34] Speaker 4: Think I'm a ghost.
[34:36] Speaker 5: So now the Oobjact pro looks.
[34:39] Speaker 1: I was strong Nadian Jimmin tail with a team that
[34:44] Speaker 1: could and win, but would fail. And I knew that
[34:48] Speaker 1: I had failed.
[34:50] Speaker 9: The day the Sea Grade fights, Alex is saying bye
[34:58] Speaker 9: bye to some nipple postu. I saw see right now,
[35:01] Speaker 9: I've gave bayn Engine right by my side.
[35:04] Speaker 5: I got tired of watching Blue from.
[35:06] Speaker 1: The Blue Dribe.
[35:07] Speaker 9: So the soup and the Day of the Jag guys,
[35:11] Speaker 9: missu be the Day of the Jake guys.
[35:16] Speaker 5: You know, just just threw little something together.
[35:18] Speaker 4: Wow.
[35:19] Speaker 2: Wow, I didn't expect. I was waiting for it to stop.
[35:22] Speaker 2: But I think you were going to keep knowing that long.
[35:25] Speaker 4: That's what I told you.
[35:27] Speaker 5: I told you guys that I was working on something
[35:28] Speaker 5: and it might be a little long.
[35:31] Speaker 4: You know.
[35:31] Speaker 6: We give Jonathan a hard time on this show, but
[35:35] Speaker 6: I don't think anyone can deny that that was beautiful.
[35:39] Speaker 4: I'm joining the.
[35:40] Speaker 6: Colt Yeah, I'm.
[35:42] Speaker 4: Joining the Flint and Steelers. Guys.
[35:43] Speaker 6: When when Jonathan said, now I'll haunt Jeff Probes and
[35:47] Speaker 6: then he gives like a little Jerry Lee Lewis.
[35:51] Speaker 2: I had nipple pierced guy?
[35:54] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[35:55] Speaker 2: Also, once he gets into it, he sounds like weird al.
[35:59] Speaker 5: I okay, so this is also.
[36:03] Speaker 4: Song.
[36:03] Speaker 5: I had this problem because as I was listening to it,
[36:06] Speaker 5: I was like, I sound more like the weird out.
[36:08] Speaker 5: The saga begins, versus begins begins. What Yeah, I don't know.
[36:19] Speaker 5: I don't know what happened. I did that in a
[36:21] Speaker 5: one take er too, PD. I just really yeah, I did.
[36:24] Speaker 5: I'll send you the video the harmonies too. That's crazy, dude, how.
[36:29] Speaker 4: Do you do that?
[36:30] Speaker 2: Well?
[36:30] Speaker 4: Okay, I did the lead in. I just wouldn't lie here,
[36:38] Speaker 4: I am. This is all. This is all to just say.
[36:42] Speaker 5: My argument is that Jake would have done good in
[36:44] Speaker 5: the challenge, and that I really think Jake he just
[36:48] Speaker 5: he's either one turned into a ghost and is taking
[36:52] Speaker 5: shoes on the seashore like Brand said, or he went
[36:56] Speaker 5: home on purpose and used that snake. He was like,
[36:59] Speaker 5: I'm glad I get to see my son's birth. And
[37:01] Speaker 5: now the Blue Tribe is strong. You notice that they
[37:04] Speaker 5: they're strong.
[37:05] Speaker 4: Blue Blue Tribe strong.
[37:07] Speaker 2: Yeah, man, thanks to the ghost of Jake.
[37:10] Speaker 5: Thanks to his encouragement of them thinking he almost died.
[37:14] Speaker 2: Yes. Uh, and now we got a speed run through
[37:17] Speaker 2: this last ten minutes because brain has to get out
[37:19] Speaker 2: of here.
[37:20] Speaker 4: I got a heart on.
[37:20] Speaker 7: Uh.
[37:21] Speaker 2: Yes, So heina lost. That means Rizzo needs to start
[37:24] Speaker 2: looking for that advantage. Fortunately for Rizzo, Savannah is already
[37:28] Speaker 2: on it. She was like, Uh, let's just look for it, right,
[37:32] Speaker 2: now at the water well because she was with Nate
[37:34] Speaker 2: and she was with Juwan, and so they start digging,
[37:37] Speaker 2: they find the map, they give it to Rizzo. Rizzo
[37:40] Speaker 2: takes it to the rocks. He knew exactly where to look,
[37:42] Speaker 2: and Rizzo has the idol amazing.
[37:46] Speaker 4: You love to see it, You love to see it.
[37:48] Speaker 4: I stand by it.
[37:49] Speaker 8: I like the bowhare advantage, Jonathan, and I don't really
[37:51] Speaker 8: care what you say.
[37:52] Speaker 5: In a situation like this, it does feel like there
[37:55] Speaker 5: were stakes to it because of the whole like mix
[37:58] Speaker 5: up and all that stuff, right, But I would love
[38:01] Speaker 5: to see again a regular old idol sprinkled out there.
[38:04] Speaker 4: Who's to say it's not. It could be. I would
[38:07] Speaker 4: be a happy camper. I don't know if you know this,
[38:11] Speaker 4: but they don't want you to know what's coming on Survivor.
[38:14] Speaker 4: That's why they built a challenge that they were never
[38:18] Speaker 4: going to use.
[38:19] Speaker 2: And this is where I knew that, This is where
[38:22] Speaker 2: we all knew that the two people on the block
[38:24] Speaker 2: were Matt and Jason. I knew Matt was going home
[38:27] Speaker 2: because Matt thinks Baldy's the easy target. But he thinks
[38:30] Speaker 2: he can make a big swing and get Nate out
[38:32] Speaker 2: of here. So he pitches Juwan on a new alliance
[38:35] Speaker 2: and it's called the Section, Chase, do you remember why
[38:38] Speaker 2: it's called the Section? I don't.
[38:40] Speaker 4: I don't think they said.
[38:45] Speaker 8: Jets fly in the air force. When you're coming from
[38:49] Speaker 8: both sides, they call it the section.
[38:51] Speaker 6: Okay, because I didn't understand what was going on when
[38:54] Speaker 6: they were talking about I didn't either, And then immediately
[38:57] Speaker 6: we get a confessional where he's like, what a stupid name.
[39:02] Speaker 8: I felt so bad for getting Matt and also like
[39:06] Speaker 8: kind of crazy acting by Juanka.
[39:08] Speaker 4: Dude, oh man, Yeah, he sold into this.
[39:11] Speaker 8: I also kind of thought the section was pretty bad
[39:13] Speaker 8: personal one.
[39:15] Speaker 4: I was.
[39:16] Speaker 5: I was surprised at how excited Juwan was about it,
[39:19] Speaker 5: Like he was really excited.
[39:21] Speaker 4: And then when the Juan might be.
[39:23] Speaker 8: In finance because he's a good liar, he's a psycho.
[39:26] Speaker 2: Path To me, the Section sounds like a show that
[39:29] Speaker 2: would get canceled after one season.
[39:31] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[39:32] Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's like a mockumentary about a certain section
[39:35] Speaker 5: of a department store or something, you know, right, Uh anyway, Yeah,
[39:39] Speaker 5: Juana I think is a great player, by.
[39:42] Speaker 2: The way, Yeah, he looked good in this moment, calling
[39:45] Speaker 2: Matt an idiot. Meanwhile, Jason is considering using his shot
[39:51] Speaker 2: in the dark. Nobody's used a shot in the dark yet,
[39:54] Speaker 2: and then Savannah wants him out for that reason because
[39:57] Speaker 2: she wants him to just be willing to vote out Matt.
[40:00] Speaker 2: Jason wasn't willing to do that. But Matt's already you know,
[40:03] Speaker 2: screwed himself over by throwing everybody's name out there. And
[40:07] Speaker 2: then let's go to tribal. Nate said it's pretty clearly
[40:11] Speaker 2: between Matt and Jason and that they adopted Baldy. And
[40:15] Speaker 2: then after finding out that Baldy's been adopted, Matt was like, up,
[40:20] Speaker 2: that doesn't bode well for me. And then he keeps
[40:22] Speaker 2: throwing Sandra under the bus, which Sandra took issue with
[40:25] Speaker 2: on Instagram.
[40:28] Speaker 5: Not to mention, you know, Matt has this moment where
[40:31] Speaker 5: he's like completely I just completely murdered by by Nate,
[40:39] Speaker 5: Like where Nate just calls him out on the fact
[40:41] Speaker 5: that he's throwing out these people's names and all this.
[40:44] Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, like the elephant in the room is
[40:46] Speaker 2: that my name was thrown out today by Matt or
[40:48] Speaker 2: something like that.
[40:49] Speaker 5: Well, no, no, no, there was a second one where
[40:52] Speaker 5: he basically Matt said, I don't know who's throwing names
[40:56] Speaker 5: out there and being dishonest. And Nate's just like, you
[41:00] Speaker 5: threw out so like so like he just said, you threw.
[41:03] Speaker 6: Threw his teammates under the bus.
[41:04] Speaker 2: Oh that's when he brought up the Sandra thing. He's like,
[41:07] Speaker 2: anybody but me, you know, I hate Sandra, but anybody.
[41:09] Speaker 8: Both moved to talk trash about a two time winner
[41:13] Speaker 8: on the show that you are currently on, also one.
[41:16] Speaker 2: As cool as Sandra.
[41:18] Speaker 6: Yeah, Jeff took a problem with it too and immedately said, hey,
[41:21] Speaker 6: it worked out for her twice twice.
[41:23] Speaker 8: Yeah, she's two million dollars richer playing the game that
[41:26] Speaker 8: you don't like.
[41:27] Speaker 6: After taxes, she's about, what do you guys think? Twelve
[41:30] Speaker 6: hundred twelve twelve.
[41:32] Speaker 4: Hundred dollars, But you gotta pay, you gotta pay those times.
[41:35] Speaker 2: She can afford all the rocket pops she wants. Sometimes
[41:37] Speaker 2: she'll post the picture of those in her freezer. Uh, Sandra,
[41:41] Speaker 2: After she threw that fish for Rupert, one of my
[41:44] Speaker 2: favorite players of all time, Amen, she avenged Rupert, the
[41:52] Speaker 2: ghost of Rupert, the Ghost of Rupert.
[41:55] Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought Matt did a pretty bad job with
[41:58] Speaker 5: his play like all way leading up to Tribal, because
[42:02] Speaker 5: I just thought as soon as he took that swing
[42:04] Speaker 5: at Nate, I was like, he just screwed himself, Like
[42:06] Speaker 5: he's gonna go home, because I knew Jiwan was not
[42:10] Speaker 5: just gonna take that and that it was not going
[42:12] Speaker 5: to just stay between them, and that this plan was
[42:14] Speaker 5: gonna work. And so then going into Tribal and seeing
[42:18] Speaker 5: how I mean, obviously Nate knew about it. I feel
[42:23] Speaker 5: like Nate had a vendetta of like, how do I
[42:25] Speaker 5: throw Matt under this bus as quick as possible?
[42:30] Speaker 4: You know?
[42:31] Speaker 8: Yeah, I wrestle with it because I like, I kind
[42:34] Speaker 8: of I get the move right, like it this is
[42:39] Speaker 8: it's big. It's big move Survivor era, right, Like everyone's
[42:43] Speaker 8: trying to just make big moves, and I feel like
[42:46] Speaker 8: we've we've got to We've had a bit of a pivot.
[42:50] Speaker 8: It does seem to be going back a little bit
[42:52] Speaker 8: more to really loving your alliance, even even a strong four.
[42:58] Speaker 4: And so I don't know, I'm I like the move.
[43:02] Speaker 8: I think I think I probably would have tried to
[43:05] Speaker 8: make the same argument and the same move if I
[43:09] Speaker 8: if I'm in his shoe.
[43:09] Speaker 4: I think if you're in his shoes.
[43:11] Speaker 5: You get why he made the argument, but I just
[43:13] Speaker 5: think it wasn't it was always enough done.
[43:17] Speaker 2: Says I think throw Jason under the bus is the
[43:20] Speaker 2: right thing to do.
[43:21] Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know, Like I think that I would
[43:24] Speaker 5: have just tried to get the other guy to go
[43:26] Speaker 5: home and just sell like basically my own alliance value,
[43:32] Speaker 5: you know, rather than trying to take like a really
[43:35] Speaker 5: big swing when the stakes are already you're going home.
[43:38] Speaker 4: You know.
[43:39] Speaker 5: It's not like he decided to try to take a
[43:41] Speaker 5: big swing while other people's names were on the table.
[43:44] Speaker 4: It was his own name.
[43:46] Speaker 5: And another person's that it was split right down the
[43:48] Speaker 5: middle with. And I just feel like by him trying
[43:51] Speaker 5: to send Nate home, which everybody seems to like Nate,
[43:56] Speaker 5: that they just it was like, why why are you
[43:59] Speaker 5: doing this?
[44:01] Speaker 2: You know? Yeah, if Jonathan was in that spot, he'd
[44:03] Speaker 2: be like, let me consult my Charles Manson book.
[44:10] Speaker 5: You know, there was a lot of deception that happened
[44:13] Speaker 5: in this trial that I used to read about.
[44:16] Speaker 4: That's what I Charles Manson.
[44:19] Speaker 8: Is my die, that's those are your words.
[44:28] Speaker 2: I'm not that upset about it. He was my last
[44:31] Speaker 2: pick and I had said that I didn't really want
[44:33] Speaker 2: him on my team in the first place. I wish
[44:36] Speaker 2: I had picked Alex. Now, yeah, I definitely wish i'd
[44:39] Speaker 2: picked Alex. But you know, you live and you.
[44:42] Speaker 4: Learn final draft pick Alex.
[44:48] Speaker 5: Brand, you still have a full team, right, That's right?
[44:51] Speaker 5: And so Chase is down one. I'm down one, not
[44:53] Speaker 5: by vote, and PD is down.
[44:55] Speaker 8: One's gonna keep in mind all that I did not
[44:59] Speaker 8: lose into a.
[45:00] Speaker 4: Vote via secret. I think once again to make the way.
[45:06] Speaker 2: So Chase picked last, and he lost one first and
[45:09] Speaker 2: the way. No, Jonathan was technically the first person to
[45:12] Speaker 2: lose a player.
[45:13] Speaker 5: But we lost him by his own will. I think,
[45:15] Speaker 5: you know, by his own hands.
[45:20] Speaker 8: You're running with this theory that I gave less than
[45:23] Speaker 8: a percent.
[45:26] Speaker 2: So three people are missing a player. Brand's next next week,
[45:30] Speaker 2: Brand's losing a player. I'm calling, who do you think
[45:33] Speaker 2: it is? I think it's gonna be Alex.
[45:37] Speaker 4: Hmmm.
[45:42] Speaker 8: I think, just judging off of those episode, I think
[45:46] Speaker 8: Christina goes before Alex or Jason.
[45:49] Speaker 6: I really like Christina. I hope she goes the long run.
[45:52] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting the way the tribes are set up.
[45:55] Speaker 2: Because the new Hena is what majority uli the new
[45:59] Speaker 2: kle a majority Hina. Yeah, yeah, so I think it's
[46:05] Speaker 2: either Christina or or not Christina. Who would be safe?
[46:09] Speaker 2: It's either Sage, Shannon or Jason on the block. Yeah,
[46:14] Speaker 2: next week.
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