# Ep. 18: 8 Biohacks for Longevity + Skin Health with Bethany and Courtney

An episode of [Grounded Wellness by Primally Pure](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1768354655), 15 Jan 2025, 1 h 01 min.

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This episode of Grounded Wellness will show you why biohacking – in any capacity – is well worth your time. Whether you want to take a more intuitive approach like Courtney – or a slightly more tech-heavy approach like Bethany, This conversation between Courtney and Bethany provides an entertaining + thought-provoking overview of popular biohacks. These are some of the best ways to intentionally better your health to show up as the best version of yourself. Let’s dig in. Episode Resources: Mentioned in this episode; Products: Red Light Therapy:https://boncharge.com/ Sauna: https://heavenlyheatsaunas.com/ Ozone Generator: https://www.simplyo3.com/ Ozone Balm:https://livinglibations.com/ Grounding: https://www.earthing.com/ Grounding Shoes: https://www.earthrunners.com/ Grounding Shoes: https://raumgoods.com/ Grounding Shoes: https://bahe.co/ Books: Complete Guide to Fasting: https://www.doctorjasonfung.com/the-complete-guide-to-fasting Intuitive Fasting:https://drwillcole.com/intuitive-fasting Earthing:https://www.amazon.com/Earthing-Most-Important-Health-Discovery/dp/1591202833 Blogs: Bethany’s 6 Day Water Cleanse: https://primallypure.com/blogs/blog/i-did-a-six-day-water-only-fast-and-this-is-what-i-learned?_pos=10&_sid=186c96e7c&_ss=r Autophagy: https://primallypure.com/blogs/blog/autophagy-age-backwards-with-this-natural-process?_pos=5&_sid=bd89e8933&_ss=r Top Biohacks: https://primallypure.com/blogs/blog/top-biohack-practices?_pos=1&_psq=bio&_ss=e&_v=1.0 Holistic Habits: https://primallypure.com/blogs/blog/accessible-holistic-habits Explore Primally Pure: Shop: https://bit.ly/4e1HzVv Blog: https://bit.ly/4gAeIsY

## Transcript

[0:01] Welcome to Grounded Wellness, your go to podcast for
[0:04] simplified and trusted information on how to live a
[0:07] more non-toxic and holistic life.
[0:10] We're your hosts. I'm Bethany McDaniel, founder of
[0:13] Primarily Pure biohacking enthusiast and mom of three.
[0:16] And I'm Courtney O'Connor, holistic esthetician with over
[0:19] 15 years experience in the healing power of touch and
[0:23] holistic skin care rituals. If you've ever googled
[0:26] biohacking, you might think some of these people are crazy.
[0:30] As a self-proclaimed biohacker, I totally get why.
[0:33] Biohacking can definitely take things to the extreme, but don't
[0:36] write it off just yet. In today's episode, Courtney and
[0:39] I cover a wide range of bio hacks.
[0:41] We touch on basic and accessible bio hacks, but also dive into
[0:45] some more obscure and advanced options.
[0:47] Let's dig in. Hello everyone and welcome to
[0:55] Grounded Wellness. Courtney and I are here at the
[0:57] farm and we are talking about biohacking today.
[1:01] And for anyone that isn't familiar with biohacking, Dave
[1:05] Asprey who is the self-proclaimed father of
[1:09] biohacking defines it as using science, biology, and self
[1:13] experimentation to enhance health and life.
[1:17] Courtney, did you do any biohacks this morning preparing
[1:20] for this episode? You know, my morning was a
[1:23] little bit shorter of routine to get out here on the farm for the
[1:26] podcast, but I did do my moment of stillness and breath work
[1:30] just to settle in and regulate my nervous system before filming
[1:34] today. What about you?
[1:36] Oh yeah, I did the hyperbaric chamber.
[1:39] I went in there and reviewed some notes for today, read my
[1:44] Bible a little bit, and then I actually did a rectal ozone
[1:48] inflation. Wow.
[1:50] Can you tell me? About that really quick before
[1:53] we dive into that hard. To tell you really quick about a
[1:55] rectal ozone and completion, maybe we'll just cover it when
[1:57] we get to the ozone section. I might.
[2:00] We might lose half our audience if I, like, dive into the deep
[2:03] end. Amazingly, yeah.
[2:04] We'll start a little slower. So the idea behind Bio Hacks and
[2:08] why we're doing this episode is because we are up against a lot
[2:14] in our modern world, like we are surrounded by more toxic
[2:18] exposures than ever before in history.
[2:22] And so while these are not necessarily foundational, you
[2:28] know, must do's for health, they can be really helpful in
[2:32] mitigating some of the the toxins that we're exposed to in
[2:36] this modern world. But I also don't want to
[2:38] downplay them. Like some of these things can be
[2:41] really life changing and even life saving, as we'll talk about
[2:45] with some of these bio hacks. A lot of these bio hacks are are
[2:47] pretty cool and can make a big difference in someone's.
[2:50] Life, definitely, and we're going to talk about some of the
[2:54] more technologically advanced, like Bethany just mentioned, a
[2:57] couple that you incorporated this morning, ones that may be a
[3:00] little bit more of an investment, but a worthwhile
[3:03] investment. And then more of the simpler,
[3:06] accessible and more budget friendly options.
[3:09] And just really encouraging all of our listeners in our
[3:13] community that regardless of where you're at on your health
[3:15] journey or your budget, that you can implement these biohacks and
[3:20] see such a significant change and baby steps really do make
[3:24] such a big difference in your health.
[3:26] There's a lot of different options in the biohacking world.
[3:29] You don't have to go full throttle at it.
[3:31] You can kind of pick and choose what works for you.
[3:33] And I think one other thing I want to bring into the
[3:36] conversation is this concept of self health that we talk about a
[3:39] lot primarily pure different than self-care.
[3:42] This isn't about like doing the the thing that you like want to
[3:46] do necessarily in the moment that's going to give you like
[3:48] that boost of endorphins and feel good.
[3:50] I think the self-care movement gets it wrong when it just
[3:54] relies excessively on this idea of like indulgences and treat
[3:57] yourself like your puppy. Chow when you're pregnant?
[3:59] Yeah. And then you feel awful.
[4:00] Afterwards, I told the story on a podcast episode that we just
[4:03] recorded about how I had this intense craving for Muddy
[4:07] Buddies, AKA Puppy Chow. I made myself a batch of it with
[4:12] the cleanest ingredients I could find and felt absolutely
[4:16] terrible after eating it. Sometimes our cravings and our
[4:20] emotions lie to us about what we want.
[4:22] And so that's kind of like where I think the self-care movement
[4:26] gets it wrong of like this overly big emphasis on self
[4:31] indulgence at the expense a lot of times of like your overall
[4:34] well-being. Because sometimes doing the hard
[4:37] thing in the moment is what's best for us.
[4:38] Sometimes not giving into those cravings or we know whatever
[4:41] that temptation is, is what is actually best for us long term.
[4:45] Not that there's not a time and place for that, for sure.
[4:48] That's self-care. Self health is more so investing
[4:51] into your own health, not from a place of like narcissism or just
[4:57] wanting to feel good about everything else in life, but
[5:01] investing in yourself, investing in your health so that you can
[5:04] better show up for your calling, your purpose in life, and the
[5:07] people around you in life. And so that's, I think like how
[5:11] biohacking fits into to that equation, like these little
[5:14] hacks that we can implement that allow us to show up as our best
[5:18] self. Yes, I love that and I think too
[5:21] sometimes biohacking can feel really intimidating and
[5:23] overwhelming. But really there is this
[5:25] beautiful back to basics approaches.
[5:27] Well and how even just simple things that we're surrounded by
[5:31] a nature like grounding and earthing, the breathwork things
[5:35] that we're just, we have access to on the on a daily basis.
[5:39] And just yeah, reintegrating these basic habits into our self
[5:43] health routine to biohack how we feel and our well-being.
[5:47] I think we come from a unique approach as well 'cause I think
[5:50] so often in this biohacking space and different experts or
[5:55] speakers or people who are implementing these bio hacks can
[6:00] come from a place almost of trying to play God and outsmart
[6:06] death essentially and try to never die.
[6:10] Like to be this generation that outlives everyone and can just
[6:16] play God essentially. I had a friend who went to a
[6:18] biohacking conference and he told me that there was a speaker
[6:22] who was quite vulnerable in his presentation.
[6:24] But how? Because he didn't know what was
[6:27] on the other side of death. And this fear of death, this
[6:32] fear of the unknown, he was trying to do everything within
[6:34] his power to prevent that from happening.
[6:37] And that just hit me so hard on like, because we have this
[6:40] unknown of what's on the other side, we're essentially living
[6:43] out of this place of fear and implementing these bio hacks
[6:47] purely to prevent the unknown from happening, which is also
[6:50] impossible. And so just wanting to come from
[6:54] a place of the self health perspective, wanting to remain
[6:57] present and show up for a purpose this side of heaven here
[7:00] on earth. And I think, yeah, to us, these
[7:04] bio hacks aren't to try to outlive or play God, but to
[7:08] really just show up more present for a purpose and the people we
[7:11] love. Yeah, this is not to be lumped
[7:13] in with Brian Johnson's $2,000,000 a year quest for
[7:18] immortality. Like that is not what we're
[7:20] talking about. That's not what we're advocating
[7:22] for. This is about just little things
[7:25] that we can do, little tweaks that we can make to be healthier
[7:28] while we're on this planet. Yep.
[7:29] Not because we're afraid of death, but because we want to
[7:32] live life to the fullest. Yeah.
[7:34] Yeah. For that.
[7:35] Having said that, let's see it. Let's do.
[7:39] All right. First, biohack.
[7:40] We're starting out really tame with this one.
[7:43] Red light therapy, love, this is something that both of us do.
[7:47] It's recognized as being very safe, very low risk, but also
[7:51] really beneficial. This works on a cellular level,
[7:55] improving the health of your mitochondria, which is the
[7:57] powerhouse and energy source of our cells.
[7:59] And as we know, healthier cells mean a healthier self.
[8:03] And so this is a really powerful one.
[8:06] It's also really good for skin health, really good for collagen
[8:09] production, balances skin tone, soothes inflammation, really
[8:12] good for tissue repair. There's one study that I was
[8:15] just looking at where they compared two groups, one that
[8:18] was doing red light therapy only twice a week and one that
[8:21] wasn't, and it showed a significant improvement in
[8:25] complexion and collagen density in the skin.
[8:28] Amazing. So this really works.
[8:30] It's really simple. It feels good.
[8:32] There's a lot it's. Not a huge time commitment, no.
[8:34] That study was just twice a week.
[8:35] Yeah. Twice a week and I forget the
[8:38] total duration of time, but it the total duration wasn't even
[8:41] that long either. So there's so many different red
[8:44] light devices on the market right now, I don't actually know
[8:47] which ones or which one you have and use.
[8:51] I have the Juve handheld device OK with the little dock that it
[8:55] comes on. I know bond charge has a lot of
[8:58] amazing. Yeah, Bond Charge is great.
[9:00] I love their red light face mask.
[9:03] They're a great company. They have a lot of different
[9:05] options, but it's really easy to have it stuck with this one too.
[9:09] Yes, you can do something else. I like laying down and listening
[9:12] to a podcast like on airplane mode while I'm doing red light
[9:15] therapy. I'll also do it in the middle of
[9:17] the night sometimes if I wake up, my mind's like racing and I
[9:20] can't go back to sleep. That's a brilliant idea.
[9:22] It works. So well, and I discovered this
[9:24] on accident one time when I woke up too early and I was like OK,
[9:28] well I'll just do some red light.
[9:29] I have nothing else to do right now and if after I did it I
[9:34] noticed that within a few minutes I was like super drowsy
[9:37] again and I just thought huh, that's interesting.
[9:40] But I tried it a few more times and the same thing would happen
[9:43] every single time. And so now it's been years and
[9:45] it's like my hack for falling back asleep in the middle of.
[9:48] The night, and that's amazing because I feel like often the
[9:50] like typical thing to do if you wake up at 2:00 AM is to scroll
[9:54] on your phone and then you're getting that blue light exposure
[9:56] if you don't have the red setting on your phone.
[9:58] So instead of hindering deeper sleep with the blue light with
[10:02] your phone, you're doing the red light to help.
[10:03] Support deeper sleep. Exactly Who's that?
[10:06] Yeah. What do you do when you do red
[10:07] light therapy? I'll do.
[10:09] I have this app that I love. It's like this meditation prayer
[10:12] app. And then I do legs up the wall
[10:13] to support my nervous system. That's a good thing.
[10:16] Or just lay and hold it. And I always forget to do that.
[10:20] Legs up on the wall. Wow, that's a good one though.
[10:22] Yes, yes, highly recommend. And yeah, like 10 minutes is
[10:26] that, yeah, it's really simple to incorporate.
[10:28] So easy to fit into your life, yes?
[10:30] So do you typically do the face mask one?
[10:34] I have that one and I have a handheld one, OK.
[10:36] And so I just kind of rotate. There's not really a rhyme or
[10:40] reason to it. Yeah.
[10:41] And do you feel anything when you're doing it?
[10:43] Like for someone who's never tried red light before, like,
[10:46] what do you feel? What's the experience like?
[10:50] I feel, I mean, my skin, I feel like just, it feels a little bit
[10:54] more even and like I noticed like an improvement in texture
[10:59] and like softness, maybe some of that I'm like imagining, but
[11:04] especially like with continued use, I feel like my skin
[11:07] responds really well to it. Yes.
[11:09] And I don't know, it kind of calms me too.
[11:12] Do you feel that way when you do it?
[11:13] I do so I love doing it before bed cuz I do feel like it helps
[11:17] to just relax my whole nervous system and after working on a
[11:21] computer all day and writing content I feel like it helps to
[11:24] mitigate that blue light from the day which I try to wear my
[11:27] blue light glasses. And I noticed a difference with
[11:30] my tone and with my wrinkles like especially on my forehead
[11:34] like I noticed some soften when I'm really consistent with my
[11:37] red light. Although I will say I am prone
[11:39] to cold sores and I have found if I don't wear an SPF lip foam
[11:45] it sometimes can trigger cold sores really for me.
[11:48] Interesting, so you wear an SPF lip balm when you do the red
[11:51] light? Therapy.
[11:51] I wear ours that were testing. Oh my.
[11:54] Gosh. Sneak peek for all of our
[11:56] listeners, but yes. Interesting, I also think it
[12:01] helps with with acne with pimples.
[12:03] It does, yes. Because it's good for for easing
[12:06] inflammation. And so if I have a breakout or
[12:09] if I have a few pimples, I am extra committed to my red light
[12:16] therapy because it really does make a difference and how long
[12:19] it takes for those to go away. Truly, I'm obsessed with this
[12:21] hack because I feel like it incorporates like a full body
[12:25] health and skin health and you see and feel a shift so quickly.
[12:29] And if you aren't able to invest in a red light device, which
[12:31] some of you have, like the full panels, which are definitely
[12:33] more of an investment, or they have like the smaller solar wand
[12:36] type devices or the mask, but also just getting outside first
[12:41] thing in the morning for sunrise or sunset, that's when there's
[12:45] higher levels of red light from the sun.
[12:48] And so that's a simple, easy way to also get those medicinal
[12:51] benefits from red light in the sun.
[12:53] Yeah. Free red light therapy free You
[12:55] love that cold. Therapy don't love.
[13:00] So cold therapy, the benefits include boosting immune function
[13:04] and that happens because it increases your white blood cell
[13:08] count. It's good for energizing the
[13:10] body. It can be anti-inflammatory,
[13:13] boost mental clarity. It can be also really helpful
[13:16] for anxiety and depression. And different forms of cold
[13:20] therapy include like full on cold plunge like automated.
[13:24] You can also get portable cold therapy plunges like Amazon has
[13:29] several of those options. You can set up your own your own
[13:33] cold plunge, like in the bathtub.
[13:35] You can take a cold shower, take a dip in a lake or a river
[13:43] certain times of the year in certain places and get cold
[13:46] therapy that way. So there's a lot of different
[13:48] ways to incorporate cold therapy into your life.
[13:52] You don't love it, why not I? Well, first of all, just because
[13:57] it doesn't feel the greatest initially, but obviously all the
[14:01] benefits you just mentioned you've it's the self health
[14:03] thing. Like it may not feel good in the
[14:05] moment, but you know, the long term effects are definitely
[14:07] worth it. I think definitely in certain
[14:11] phases of our cycle, like I feel like men can cold plunge anytime
[14:14] all the time. Or with women, we have to be
[14:16] more mindful about where we're at in our cycle and not when
[14:19] we're menstruating or in our ludial phase, but when we're
[14:21] ovulating or like in our follicular phase.
[14:24] I think that could be great. I think the only time I've
[14:27] really been down to cold plunge is after I sauna.
[14:31] I feel like I can. Handle it a bit more and it
[14:34] doesn't feel as intense. Yeah, that's the only time I do
[14:38] it, OK. Amazing.
[14:39] And how often do you do yours? I go in phases with it.
[14:42] Sometimes I'm in it like multiple times a week and
[14:45] sometimes I'll go weeks without doing cold therapy at all.
[14:48] So it just depends. But yeah, no, I only do it after
[14:52] the sauna. I mean, it feels the best to me
[14:55] doing it then and it's the easiest because the cold sounds
[14:59] nice after you've been in the heat for so long.
[15:01] So that's the only time that I do it.
[15:03] And also like you mentioned, the cycle, I'm the same way.
[15:07] I won't do it right before I start my period or during my
[15:11] period, but afterwards. What's the middle phase again?
[15:16] Ovulatory. Ovulatory, yeah, but, but I love
[15:19] cold plunging during the ovulatory phase and kind of a
[15:22] little bit before or after that. Yes.
[15:24] And how long do you typically stay in the cold plunge and what
[15:27] temperature do you typically keep it at?
[15:30] 52° is what we keep ours at and I'm in there anywhere from like
[15:35] a minute to 3 minutes. I don't go for that long, but
[15:40] oftentimes 2. I'm like a minute and a half and
[15:42] then I go in the sauna for another 10 and then I get
[15:45] another minute and 1/2 or two minutes.
[15:47] I've heard 11 minutes per week is like the sweet.
[15:49] Spot OK in total. Yeah, total amazing for the
[15:52] whole week. Yeah, Yeah, I do feel really
[15:55] good when I do it. Like I feel energized.
[15:57] I feel amazing. I think there's also something
[15:59] to this idea of like starting your day for people, that cold
[16:03] plunge in the morning, like starting your day with something
[16:05] really hard. Yeah.
[16:06] And then overcoming that and then the other challenges that
[16:09] you face throughout the day don't seem as difficult because
[16:12] you've already chosen to do something really hard.
[16:15] On that note, my fiance, actually, he does his Co plunges
[16:19] pretty consistently because it also increases the size.
[16:24] I call it MC for short because I can't remember the full name of
[16:27] it in our brain. But when we do things we don't
[16:29] want to do, it actually increases the size of that in
[16:32] our brain, which increases our capacity and our resiliency.
[16:36] And so whether it's Co plunging or another biohack or something
[16:39] else for our health, when it's something we in, that's just the
[16:41] beauty of discipline too. It's like, I know this is good
[16:43] for me. I don't want to do it, but I'm
[16:45] going to. And it actually increases our
[16:46] resiliency and capacity over time.
[16:48] So maybe I need to start doing my cold plunging and help that
[16:52] grow a bit. And what are your tips, Bethany,
[16:55] when you're doing your cold plunging to like help you stay
[16:57] focused and like stay in the cold plunge?
[16:59] Well, first of all, I'm really not that tough with it.
[17:03] I mean, as you can tell by the amount of time I'm in there,
[17:05] it's not it's not that impressive, but it's still hard.
[17:08] I mean, it's still you still have to like tap in a little bit
[17:11] to that that mental strength. And so I just breathe.
[17:15] I just like I, I don't try not to panic.
[17:18] I try to go to a place of just calm and, and focus, focus on my
[17:23] breathing and just tell myself like, it's kind of like
[17:28] childbirth, like this hurts, but it's OK.
[17:30] Like, it's OK, you're uncomfortable, but you're OK,
[17:32] you know, just kind of like. Keeping that mind, telling your
[17:35] body you're safe, this is all. This is a good thing, yeah.
[17:39] Because it can be quite shocking when you get into the cold
[17:41] plunge. Yeah, this is something that is
[17:44] fun for my kids, too. Like they, they see us doing it.
[17:47] And so they like the idea of it and they'll, they're curious
[17:51] about it and they'll try it, but they obviously like don't last
[17:54] very long. But it's fun to see them, just
[17:57] like it's fun to see how it sparks their interest and
[17:59] curiosity And they're like willingness to, to do
[18:03] challenging things. Amazing.
[18:05] So on the opposite of cold therapy, let's talk heat therapy
[18:08] as another biohack. And similarly, there are lots of
[18:11] options to implement heat therapy.
[18:14] One is something we've already touched on, but the infrared
[18:17] saunas, which we absolutely love.
[18:20] And I'm excited to talk to you about that because I know you
[18:21] have one and use it regularly. And also dry saunas.
[18:25] And so heat, this heat therapy essentially rises your core
[18:28] temperature and it creates this hormetic stress, which is what
[18:31] we've been talking about. So it's beneficial stress that
[18:35] builds the resiliency within your body and within your
[18:37] health. So talk to us about your
[18:40] experience with saunas and the benefits that you've experienced
[18:43] doing this consistently. Yeah, I love saunas.
[18:46] Our infrared sauna was like the first health investment that my
[18:50] husband and I made and it may still be like my favorite
[18:54] biohacking tool that we have in our tool kit.
[18:57] It just feels so good. Like you notice an immediate
[19:01] difference and it's it's not like the cold plunge also feels
[19:04] good, but it's more of like an energizing, jarring, like
[19:08] alertness, good feeling the cold plunge and the sauna's just like
[19:12] it's like a reset. It's so feels so therapeutic,
[19:15] It's relaxing. You can do it in the morning,
[19:17] you can do it before bed, and no matter what, it's going to be
[19:20] beneficial. So I love the sauna.
[19:23] It's so detoxifying. Like just sweating is so good
[19:25] for you. It's one of the most important
[19:27] ways that our body gets rid of toxins.
[19:29] And I don't think most of us sweat nearly enough.
[19:33] But then you don't have to. Do like a grilling workout to
[19:36] like get the sweat on like you can sit in a sauna.
[19:38] Yeah, amazing. It's like a shortcut.
[19:39] Yeah. But I Yeah, and I can't say
[19:43] enough good things about sauna. I love this study that was done
[19:47] in Finland where most people sauna regularly.
[19:50] So the control group for this study was actually people who
[19:52] sauna once a week because that's just the norm there.
[19:54] Like everyone's going in the sauna at least once a week.
[19:57] So the control group were people that went in the sauna once a
[20:00] week. It was a 20 year study with 2000
[20:02] people and they compared the once a week sauna goers to
[20:07] people that did two to three sauna sessions a week.
[20:10] And then people who did four to seven sauna sessions a week.
[20:14] So the people that did two to three sauna sessions a week had
[20:17] a 24% lower risk of death overall.
[20:21] And then the people that went in four to seven times a week had a
[20:24] 40% lower risk of death overall. That's a real biohack right
[20:28] there. Right.
[20:29] Like there's your proof. Yeah.
[20:31] And those numbers are pretty crazy.
[20:32] Like going in the sauna 4 to 7 * a week to have a 40% lower risk
[20:37] of death. It's pretty remarkable.
[20:41] Wow, I love that. And So what kind of sauna do you
[20:44] prefer and what do you have? So I have a sauna, an infrared
[20:48] sauna from a company called Heavenly.
[20:49] Heat. And what I love about Heavenly
[20:51] Heat is that they don't use chemicals to treat the wood that
[20:55] they used to make the saunas. They don't use glues to make
[20:59] their saunas. And the problem with using
[21:01] chemicals to treat the wood and using glues is that when you're
[21:04] in the sauna and obviously the temperature is really high, that
[21:08] can release a lot of fumes that you will then breathe in if
[21:12] there's like a bunch of chemicals and glues in there.
[21:14] So I love that about Heavenly Heat.
[21:17] We started with a really small model and now we have one that
[21:22] all of us can fit in at the same time.
[21:24] So yeah, they're a great, very great option.
[21:27] And then there's more budget friendly options.
[21:29] There are sauna blankets. Bond Charge has a great one.
[21:33] What are your thoughts on the blankets?
[21:34] Because I know I feel like we've had some questions of are they
[21:36] as effective? Are they worth purchasing or
[21:39] should they hold out for like the real thing?
[21:41] What are your thoughts on it? It's hard to say exactly.
[21:43] I think like if you're, I think the real thing is going to be
[21:46] like the best option that you're that you'll probably like use
[21:49] the most and get the most out of.
[21:51] I think that the blankets can still be really effective
[21:55] though. If that's just like way out in
[21:57] the future for you, like getting a real wood sauna.
[22:01] I think the blankets can be super effective and a great
[22:03] option. I have lots of friends that use
[22:04] them and love. Them amazing.
[22:06] Love that. Yeah.
[22:07] And then hot baths are one for the therapy and I think there
[22:10] was a study to done where a 30 minute bath burns as many
[22:14] calories as a 30 minute water. Yeah.
[22:16] I've heard that and obviously won't have like the same like
[22:18] benefits for your muscles and things like that, but totally.
[22:21] But yeah, hot baths have a lot of their own benefits and really
[22:26] effective for detoxifying. I love taking hot baths with up
[22:28] with Epsom salt. Yes, at our sea.
[22:30] Soak in there. Yeah, I love.
[22:32] And sometimes I find that I I'm surprised by how much I will
[22:35] sweat in a hot bath. Like there's super effective for
[22:38] that. I also love just being in a
[22:41] humid place and like walking outside for like 30 minutes.
[22:46] Like last summer we did a big road trip and we spent a lot of
[22:49] time in the South. We were in like Florida, South
[22:51] Carolina, Georgia, and it was just so hot and muggy and humid.
[22:57] And I know that that sounds horrible to a lot of people, but
[22:59] I was just like, yes, no, I sign we.
[23:01] Drive in that space. I like in humidity.
[23:05] I thrive in the heat. Just like walking out and being
[23:07] drenched in sweat. I'm like, Oh yes, I love it.
[23:12] Yes, we're like describing some people's worst nights.
[23:14] Absolutely. I think I grew up in Michigan as
[23:18] well where we're under snow for like 9 months out of the year.
[23:21] So I think I'm like, I'm, I'm past my cold phase of life and
[23:24] I'm like, give me all the heat. Yeah, yeah.
[23:27] I grew up mostly in California, and so traveling to those places
[23:30] in the past, like initially it was kind of shocking to me and
[23:34] and it was like really pervasive and overwhelming.
[23:36] But as I've gotten older, I've just grown to really love it.
[23:40] OK, next topic, Grounding. This is a favorite of
[23:44] Courtney's. Courtney's been grounding before
[23:47] this was being widely talked about before it was accepted by
[23:50] the masses. I don't know if it's fully been
[23:52] accepted by the masses yet, but I think it's it's going in that
[23:55] direction. What do you love about
[23:57] grounding? This is a biohack, which it's so
[24:01] incredible that we can even call this a biohack.
[24:04] It shouldn't be a biohack really.
[24:06] Like it's this is foundational. Yes.
[24:08] Like I know at the beginning we said these aren't foundational.
[24:10] This one is though. Absolutely.
[24:11] And it is free, like fully free being barefoot on the earth,
[24:16] which is what we're doing here. And I have found this to be the
[24:20] most immediately grounding experience, like truly the way
[24:25] that it just allows me to exhale more deeply and regain
[24:31] perspective. And it's incredible to know like
[24:35] you feel the immediate shifts in your nervous system, in your
[24:38] mindset, just lowering stress levels very quickly.
[24:43] And then on a very scientific level, looking at scans of the
[24:47] body, it actually lowers inflammation immediately.
[24:51] Like inflammation cannot be happening when we are connecting
[24:55] to the Earth in this way. And so I love it because I also
[24:59] just think like this is how God created the earth, like as
[25:03] medicine to help to heal us. This is one of the most healing
[25:07] things we can do for our body and mind and nervous system.
[25:12] And it's super simple. You just slip off your shoes and
[25:16] just enjoy the earth. Yeah, it's really amazing.
[25:18] And like you said, there are literally scans that show the
[25:21] before and after and within seconds of grounding.
[25:25] Like you can see in these scans, the inflammation just radically
[25:29] decreases, like red inflamed areas, once they're grounded,
[25:34] become shades of green and blue in these scans that show like
[25:37] inflammation and measure inflammation in the body.
[25:40] And the reason this works is because the earth has an
[25:43] abundance of free electrons. And so when we're inflamed, when
[25:46] any part of our body is inflamed, free radicals will
[25:49] steal electrons from the nearest possible molecule.
[25:52] But when we're grounded, the free electrons flood the body
[25:56] and go towards the area of the body or areas of the body that
[25:58] need to be repaired and just flood that area with an
[26:02] abundance of free electrons. So there's real science behind
[26:05] this. It sounds simple, it sounds woo
[26:08] woo, but it's not. There's legitimate, legitimate
[26:11] benefits to grounding. We had Clint Ober on the show
[26:14] recently. He is known as the grandfather
[26:17] of the grounding movement. And I love this quote from him.
[26:20] He said that the rubber soled shoe was single handedly the
[26:23] most deadly invention of all time, like so powerful.
[26:28] And the reason for that is because it separates us from the
[26:31] earth. When we were wearing, you know,
[26:33] leather shoes, shoes made with natural materials, we were
[26:37] always connected to the earth. And since the invention of the
[26:40] rubber sold shoe, we have lost that connection to the earth at
[26:44] our expense. Yeah, definitely.
[26:47] And so even practicing grounding, if you don't have
[26:50] access to be barefoot on the earth, like if you are buried in
[26:53] a bunch of snow or you live in a city, there are other ways.
[26:56] Like even if you're walking barefoot on concrete or gravel
[27:01] that's not sealed, that's effective.
[27:03] Walking late on lakes, rivers, I think to even like moist earth
[27:07] helps to accentuate and enhance the more.
[27:10] Conductive. And there's incredible companies
[27:14] like Clint Overs called Earthing and some other amazing shoes
[27:18] like Earthrunner or Rome that you can actually, what is that
[27:23] one called? Bahe Bahe, you can purchase
[27:25] grounding shoes. So even if you don't have access
[27:28] to earthing or you don't feel comfortable walking barefoot all
[27:32] around, like at the beach, it's very socially acceptable for me
[27:34] to walk barefoot everywhere. There's you walk barefoot
[27:37] everywhere, Period. Whether or not it's socially
[27:39] acceptable, that's true. That's true.
[27:41] And even sleeping mats for grounding, that's something I've
[27:45] invested in and I've had on my bed now for about a year.
[27:48] And I truly remember when I first put it on my bed, waking
[27:52] up the next morning, I was like, I have not slept that deeply in
[27:55] SO. Long, I feel the same way.
[27:57] We've had ours for a few months now.
[27:59] Yeah, it's a game changer. And I felt like that was the
[28:02] best investment piece because I'm like, what's like the
[28:05] longest I can be connected to get the benefits of grounding
[28:09] and it's when I'm sleeping in my bed.
[28:11] And there's also patches that you can purchase.
[28:14] And I actually was such a cool story with one of my dear
[28:17] friends. And Clint has done some studies
[28:20] with his products, too, that have shown similar results.
[28:23] But she had a lump on her breast, and she put the
[28:26] grounding patch on the lump and within a few months it was gone.
[28:32] And Clint said he did a study up in, I think, Marion County in
[28:35] Northern California, where there was countless breast cancer
[28:39] cases in a really condensed area.
[28:43] And so they brought their grounding products up and did
[28:45] this test with these women and told them to put the patch on
[28:48] the breast until the tumor was gone.
[28:50] Just keep it on. And he said some of those tumors
[28:53] were gone in three days. What profound.
[28:56] That's insane. Crazy and he has like all these
[28:59] studies on his website and can look deeper into it.
[29:02] Yeah, earthing.com is a great place to start if you're
[29:05] interested in grounding products and and Clint Ober's book as
[29:08] well. And we like to do some of our
[29:11] facials on the farm sometimes where I'm grounding.
[29:14] And he's talked about as well that even if you're earthing and
[29:17] you touch somebody else, they get the impact and the benefit
[29:21] of earthing as well. So even I love being barefoot on
[29:24] the earth doing facial treatments, because then there's
[29:26] the added benefit of being grounded during your facial for
[29:30] even deeper parasympathetic support and lower inflammation
[29:33] levels. Yeah, there's nothing like a
[29:35] grounded facial at the farm. I've had one of them and it was
[29:38] the best. So good.
[29:41] Let's talk about ozone therapy. I know we both have a little bit
[29:44] of experience with ozone. I have an ozone generator at
[29:48] home. Shout out to Simply O3.
[29:50] They make amazing ozone generators.
[29:53] Ozone has a lot of benefits. It is O3, so oxygen is O2.
[29:58] Ozone is O3 and it's oxygen with an extra molecule.
[30:02] And what that extra molecule does is it attaches itself to
[30:06] pathogens in the body and pathogens can't live in an
[30:09] oxygen rich environment. So it's really effective at
[30:12] eliminating pathogens from the body in different capacities.
[30:15] It can be infused into water that you can drink.
[30:19] It can be infused into oil that you can use on the skin.
[30:22] You can use the gas in your ear canals which is good for the
[30:25] brain and eliminating pathogenic bacteria in the brain.
[30:29] You can also do rectal ozone insufflations with the gas.
[30:33] Now we're going to talk about it.
[30:35] You can do vaginal ozone insufflations with the gas, so
[30:38] it can be administered in a lot of different ways.
[30:40] It can be used in IV form to purify the blood, and so I've
[30:46] done several of these at home with my ozone generator.
[30:49] So I'll unpack the rectal ozone insufflations a little bit.
[30:53] Rectal ozone insufflations are a really good way to get ozone gas
[30:57] into your bloodstream without using IV ozone, which I
[31:01] obviously I'm not able to do that at home with my generator.
[31:04] I would need to go into a clinic or a doctor's office that has
[31:08] that type of ozone set up. Rectal ozone insufflations are
[31:11] like the next best way to really get that hit of ozone into your
[31:15] system. I've noticed personally that it
[31:18] really helps with mental clarity.
[31:20] Like I was doing a lot more of this when we were dealing with
[31:24] mold and trying to detox from molds.
[31:26] This is a really effective way to eliminate those pathogenic
[31:31] bacteria from the whole body. It has a systemic effect.
[31:34] So it it, yeah, you administer it rectally, but it really has
[31:37] like a an effect on your whole system infinitely.
[31:40] I did a lot of ozone gas in my ear canals also when we were
[31:43] recovering from the mold stuff. And I always have ozonated olive
[31:49] oil at home. I haven't actually made this
[31:50] myself with my generator, but I get it from pure O3.
[31:54] So my generator's from simply O3, but I get the ozonated oil
[31:57] from pure O3 and I know you have experience with the oil as well.
[32:01] Yes, so I mentioned previously with the red light, I am very
[32:05] prone to cold sores, sun exposure, stress, sickness even
[32:09] in my cycle before I start my menstrual cycle and I've tried
[32:14] every possible cold sore cure on the planet.
[32:16] I feel like and for like it'll work once and then it will stop
[32:19] being effective. Ozonated bones are the first
[32:23] thing I have found that consistently like cut my cold
[32:25] sore healing time in half and so I just stab it on as soon as I
[32:28] start to feel that little tingle and within a few days it's gone,
[32:32] which is a godsend for me. That's amazing.
[32:36] And what company do you get yours?
[32:37] From Taylor, social media manager told me about a brand
[32:41] from Canada called Living Libations and she's based in
[32:44] Canada. So she sent me a sample to try,
[32:46] which I was like, I'm forever indebted to you for this.
[32:49] So it's an ozonated ball that they create.
[32:51] I've used the ozonated olive oil on breakouts also and it's
[32:55] really effective. Yeah, it does have an
[32:58] interesting aroma to it. It's ozone.
[33:01] People say it smells like rain. Oh.
[33:05] Which makes sense because our atmosphere has an ozone layer
[33:08] and some of that comes down after a rain.
[33:11] I. Love that.
[33:11] Yeah. I have a question on all these
[33:15] different forms of administering ozone.
[33:17] How were you guided by somebody? How did you learn about this?
[33:21] And are there like specific protocols that you have to
[33:24] follow? If you Google Ozone, probably a
[33:27] lot of what you'll see is that this is unsafe and dangerous and
[33:32] that you shouldn't do it. But ozone is widely used in
[33:37] medical settings in several other countries, and it's
[33:42] really, really safe if you dose it appropriately.
[33:45] And so it can be unsafe if you don't have the right dose.
[33:48] But Simply O3 has amazing guides and instruction manuals on how
[33:53] to dose each type of ozone that you can do based on like what
[33:58] you can do with the machine and the setup that you have.
[34:01] And so those were really helpful for me.
[34:02] I also just did so much research on my own before I started doing
[34:06] anything with ozone and I'm in touch with a local those on
[34:12] expert here in Menifee not too far away who has like been
[34:16] really helpful and kind of like guiding us on how to use it
[34:19] appropriately. But it's super, super safe if
[34:22] you get the right dose. You don't want to overdo ozone.
[34:24] You definitely want to research it before you just dive in and
[34:28] ideally like find someone to work with and, and, and ask
[34:31] questions too. But this can be a really
[34:34] beneficial biohack, especially for anyone who has a high viral
[34:38] load or parasitic overgrowth or has dealt with mold illness.
[34:45] Ozone can be life changing. Wow.
[34:48] Which I feel like we all need that then like I feel like we
[34:50] all kind of can be exposed to those or how those in our
[34:53] bodies. Yeah, things are.
[34:54] Here's the place for it. Yeah, there's another biohack
[34:58] that I feel like it's kind of in the same vein, like maybe new to
[35:02] a lot of our listeners and may feel a bit intimidating.
[35:05] So Bethany talked to us about hyperbaric oxygen chambers, what
[35:09] they are and why you love them and why you have one.
[35:13] Yeah, hyperbaric oxygen, it sounds kind of wild, but it's
[35:17] actually it's a really like safe and pretty tame biohack, I would
[35:22] say. We have a hard shell hyperbaric
[35:24] chamber in our home. This was like a recent
[35:26] investment that we made. Some people invest in Bitcoin,
[35:30] we invest in health devices. Love it.
[35:34] But basically what it does is it floods your body with
[35:36] pressurized oxygen. So you you go go into this
[35:40] chamber. There's different sizes.
[35:43] Ours is the decent size where like I can fit in it with my
[35:46] husband. I can fit in it with one of my
[35:47] kids. So it doesn't feel
[35:49] claustrophobic for me. But you go inside, you shut the
[35:52] gate, and then you start pressurizing the chamber while
[35:55] you're breathing in pure oxygen in a tube through your mouth.
[36:00] And the pressurization process takes like 10 minutes.
[36:04] You want to get it to a decent pressure.
[36:06] So you're in this pressurized chamber breathing the oxygen,
[36:09] and it just floods your body with oxygen and it floods your
[36:13] blood, your tissues, oxygenates your whole system.
[36:16] And so as you can probably imagine, this is just good for
[36:19] like almost anything. It's really good for longevity.
[36:23] There was a study done in Israel where they showed that
[36:26] hyperbaric oxygen therapy increased telomere length.
[36:30] And so telomere length is a biomarker of longevity, like our
[36:34] telomeres shorten as we age. And so I think this might be the
[36:39] only thing that has ever been shown to actually increase the
[36:42] length of our telomeres and our telomeres are a part of our DNA.
[36:45] So really good for that. It's been approved for like I
[36:49] want to say 10/12/14 like medical quote uses where a
[36:54] doctor can actually prescribe hyperbaric oxygen therapy for
[36:57] something. I think some of those things are
[37:00] like sports injuries, crushing accidents.
[37:03] So like if you're let's say your foot is crushed in an accident,
[37:06] a doctor can prescribe like literally write a prescription
[37:09] for hyperbaric oxygen therapy. When I broke my heel and I had
[37:12] to go to my wound care center, there was a huge hyperbaric
[37:16] oxygen chamber section. And I knew at that point that
[37:19] you would, like, started doing this practice.
[37:22] And I was like, Oh my gosh, it's at the hospital.
[37:24] That's yeah. Yeah.
[37:25] Oh, did you do it at? All they didn't prescribe.
[37:27] It to me I wonder if you asked I was right next.
[37:29] Door should have, yeah. I did do red light therapy
[37:32] though. That's something I meant to say.
[37:33] So for injuries and healing, near infrared light.
[37:37] Yeah, I mean, it should be prescribed for so many more
[37:39] things than what it's like been approved for.
[37:42] Head injuries are another thing like a lot of NFL athletes that
[37:46] have these debilitating head injuries have gotten better with
[37:50] hyperbaric oxygen therapy. With brain scans, you'll have a
[37:54] scan showing parts of the brain that are like not functioning
[37:59] and essentially just like dark and after hyperbaric oxygen
[38:02] therapy, like come back to life really and start working again.
[38:06] So it's really cool how. Frequently do you do it.
[38:10] Would you? I try to do it twice a week
[38:11] because it takes some time. Like to get it pressurized
[38:14] alone, it takes about 10, 10 to 15 minutes.
[38:19] And then you have to be in there for an hour and then to
[38:21] depressurize, it's like another, it's like 10 minutes to
[38:24] depressurize. So it's a bit of a commitment.
[38:26] Yeah. And with ours, you're not
[38:28] supposed to bring phones in or computer because what could
[38:33] potentially happen is like the battery could explode under the
[38:37] pressure, which would be very, very bad and deadly.
[38:40] So we just steer clear of that. I think with some chambers,
[38:43] people do bring devices and we just don't do it.
[38:45] And it's kind of like kind of protects the space as well.
[38:47] It's like a place that you just go to read or like for me, I'll,
[38:51] I'll look over podcast notes and prepare sometimes for these
[38:54] mornings. Yeah.
[38:57] So I try like twice a week. Oh good wow.
[38:59] For those listening that might be interested in pursuing this
[39:02] biohack, do you have any resources or recommendations on
[39:04] where to go? How to start implementing it?
[39:07] Yeah, If you can't, if you don't have a condition that warrants a
[39:11] prescription for hyperbaric oxygen therapy, and if you do,
[39:15] you'll probably have to ask for it.
[39:17] Like most doctors won't just prescribe that.
[39:20] So it's something that you would have to like, advocate for and
[39:22] really push for. But aside from that, there are
[39:26] lots of like these stand alone like clinics that have them
[39:30] available. They can be quite expensive even
[39:33] just for a session though, but but that's an option.
[39:37] There are a lot of like these health centers that have them
[39:40] now, is there? Like a range of a rate that it
[39:44] would cost to. Yeah, I think so.
[39:46] And it probably depends on like whether it's soft shell or hard
[39:49] shell. The hard shell ones are more
[39:50] effective but also more expensive.
[39:52] If this is something though that like you think for anyone
[39:55] listening, if you like you think that you would really benefit
[39:58] from this or a family member in some capacity.
[40:00] Like I would recommend pooling together with a few friends or
[40:04] family members and maybe investing in one that that can
[40:07] be shared amongst like a group. Of people.
[40:09] I love that idea. Yeah, I feel that way with the
[40:11] sauna too. Yeah.
[40:12] Get the neighborhood together. Get a neighborhood sauna.
[40:16] Right. It's like, it's like health
[40:17] insurance, like community health insurance.
[40:19] OK breath work. This is such a simple 1.
[40:22] I feel like it would be easy to overlook, but it's super
[40:25] powerful. How do you incorporate breath
[40:28] work into your day? This is the one I did this
[40:30] morning and similar to grounding the immediate effects that I
[40:35] feel by really tuning into my breath and really being mindful
[40:39] and prioritizing that, it immediately shifts your nervous
[40:44] system. Like when we incorporate breath
[40:47] work, it activates our vagus nerve and our vagus nerve is the
[40:51] longest cranial nerve in our body.
[40:53] It actually contains 3/4 of the tissue in our parasympathetic
[40:56] nervous system. And so our breath is a direct
[41:00] link to our nervous system. It's like our bodies chill out
[41:03] button essentially. And so especially with just
[41:07] living in just chronic stress a lot of the times and living in
[41:12] our fight or flight phase and in the sympathetic state, breath
[41:16] work is something that we always have access to and we can always
[41:19] take a moment and just slow down.
[41:22] It's another free one. It's another free one that we
[41:25] always have with us. And a breath, a breathing
[41:29] practice that I really love, is the extended exhale.
[41:33] And so breathing in for four, holding for four, and then
[41:36] exhaling for 8:00. I think often times if you think
[41:39] about it like if we're afraid or stressed or scared, we do this
[41:44] like short little gasp of an inhale.
[41:46] But then when we're like settling in and we feel safe and
[41:49] we feel relaxed, we let out this like sigh.
[41:53] And so I'm really kind of honing in into that sigh.
[41:57] And that exhale helps to trigger that parasympathetic nervous
[42:00] system and. That's another trick that helps
[42:02] me go to sleep. Exhale.
[42:06] In particular, do you follow a certain pattern or do you just?
[42:12] I do this thing and I don't even know where I got this, but it's
[42:15] like 6 seconds or no. I'll start with like 3 like 3
[42:19] seconds and hold for three seconds, 3 second exhale, and
[42:22] then I'll go up to like 10 and then like back down to three,
[42:25] like 333-4445. And then.
[42:28] So I don't know where that came from, but I started doing that a
[42:31] while ago. Yeah.
[42:32] And I'll do Wim Hof like during the day usually.
[42:35] How is the Wim Hof breathing I. Like it, I feel like some people
[42:38] say it's too intense. I don't feel like it's that
[42:40] intense. Like I love the breath hold.
[42:43] I feel like that is a great way to like oxygenate the body of
[42:48] the deprivation hold. And then like the the hold at
[42:50] the top of the breath, I don't know, does something.
[42:54] I like it. I almost feel it.
[42:55] Can you lead us in that? Can you do it?
[42:57] Like right now, yeah. I mean, I feel it would take a
[43:02] long time, 'cause I would have to do, yeah, I'd have to do the
[43:03] 30 minute, the 30 breaths in and out.
[43:05] Oh, OK. And then you and then you like
[43:09] like after the last one you breathe out and then you hold
[43:11] and it's like a hold for like a minute.
[43:14] OK, OK. And then take a deep breath in
[43:16] and when I'm like, the more I do it, the more the longer I can go
[43:20] well. So sometimes I'll be able to do
[43:22] like a 2 minute plus like breath hold.
[43:25] Wow. How do you feel after that?
[43:28] Really good. Wow.
[43:29] Centered. Yeah, wow.
[43:32] Energized, but not like, jittery or like, yeah, I think some
[43:37] people think that it's just like, like too intense, but I
[43:39] don't know. I like it.
[43:40] Oh my gosh, I haven't tried Imhoff, which is I was like, can
[43:42] you lead us? But that's like a good
[43:44] description of like, what it entails.
[43:46] Yeah. And I just feel like I really
[43:48] love the self help practices in the bio hacks that really
[43:52] support our parasympathetic nervous system 'cause that's
[43:55] when our bodies can regenerate and heal and repair.
[43:58] And I feel like our breath is one of the most powerful ways to
[44:01] support that and to regulate our nervous system.
[44:04] And when we're regulated, that has an effect on the people
[44:07] around us and we can actually Co regulate others.
[44:09] So even like, I don't know, do you ever do this with your kids
[44:11] where you like breathe with them?
[44:13] If they're ever like really heightened or really having a
[44:16] moment? Yeah.
[44:17] How do you have you seen that be beneficial with them parenting?
[44:20] It's so hard for them when they're so caught up in the
[44:22] moment and their emotions to like, pause and breathe.
[44:27] It's like we're still kind of working on that.
[44:29] But yeah, it's super powerful if they can take a minute and like,
[44:33] just, it really helps to calm them.
[44:36] Yeah. Mouth taping too.
[44:39] I wanted to touch on with this as a way to help breathing
[44:44] because there's a lot of information around mouth
[44:47] breathing versus nose breathing. And so even mouth taping to
[44:51] support breath and breathing and getting that just proper oxygen
[44:57] through the nose and doing that while we sleep can have a big
[45:01] effect on do you do it sleep quality.
[45:04] I love it. Similarly with the grounding
[45:06] mat, the red light before bed, the mouth taping.
[45:09] Best sleep of my life, definitely.
[45:12] When I go to sleep now, yeah, there's just so many things when
[45:15] I travel and I like have to put all the stuff together to go
[45:17] somewhere. I'm like, this is crazy.
[45:19] But it's like I don't bring my grounding mat actually.
[45:21] But at home it's like the grounding mat.
[45:23] It's the sleep mask to like get rid of any, any bit of light at
[45:28] night. It's the earplugs, the mouth
[45:30] tape. It's like so many little things.
[45:32] Sleep is the number one. Biohack, I feel yeah, like that
[45:35] is so important to optimize. So all these are supporting
[45:39] deeper sleep. It's worth it.
[45:41] And I think even the breath fit going back to like your cold
[45:44] plunging, like what it what's helping you maintain your time
[45:48] in the cold plunge is your breath.
[45:50] And so even like helping to manage pain and get through
[45:52] stressful situations, like it's a really, really powerful tool
[45:54] that we always have access to. Yeah, and birth.
[45:57] And birth. So that too, yeah.
[46:00] It's not like the the old school like, like I think women that
[46:05] were doing that a lot in like the 90s maybe.
[46:08] And it's like, not the right move.
[46:10] Right when my sister was in labor and I was there by her
[46:12] side to help support her. And I knew nothing about birth
[46:15] at that time. I mean, I still don't know that
[46:17] much, but I went up to her ear to help guide her breathing and
[46:19] that's what I did. And she was like, that is not
[46:22] helpful. So stop breathing in my it's.
[46:23] Like what we always saw in the movies Growing.
[46:25] I was like, this is what I've seen.
[46:27] All right, last biohack we're going to touch on is fasting.
[46:32] So also, in my opinion, something that is like
[46:36] foundational to being human and has always been a part of being
[46:39] human, whether by choice or out of necessity, I think that our
[46:43] bodies are capable of going for periods of time without food.
[46:49] This is something that I've gotten into a lot over the last
[46:53] several years and I have found there to be really profound
[46:58] physical, mental and spiritual benefits to fasting.
[47:02] My favorite physical benefit of fasting is just the autophagy
[47:04] and the cellular cleanup that happens when you're in a fasted
[47:07] state. So when your body's not focused
[47:09] on digesting and putting all of its energy into breaking down
[47:13] food and extracting energy out of the food, this cool cellular
[47:16] repair mechanism called autophagy is activated where old
[47:20] and broken down cells are recycled and better functioning
[47:24] cells are made. And so the best way to activate
[47:27] this is when you're in a fasted state.
[47:29] And I actually like when I first got into fasting, I really like
[47:33] felt the benefits of this, Like I felt more clear and clean and
[47:38] like it just I could feel like the cleanup that was happening
[47:43] in my. Body like how long I was into
[47:44] your fast? Did you start to feel these?
[47:46] Even just with intermittent fasting, like and for me that's
[47:49] like a 16-8 fasting eating window.
[47:52] So fasting for 16 hours and then eating within an, an 8 hour
[47:56] period during the day, which I don't do all the time now.
[47:58] But when I started out, I, I wasn't diving into like multi
[48:03] day fasts right away. I started with intermittent
[48:05] fasting. And even with that, I felt a lot
[48:08] of those benefits. And then especially when I
[48:10] started doing extended fasts, I really experienced those
[48:13] benefits and the mental clarity that was another one that was
[48:17] huge. I will say like before I get
[48:20] into all of this, like I do a lot less fasting now.
[48:22] I feel like my body was really beneficial in the beginning,
[48:26] having gone a lifetime of like eating, snacking, always
[48:32] throughout the day from like when I would wake up to when I
[48:34] would go to sleep. So in the beginning, I really
[48:37] reaped the benefits of going for periods of time without food.
[48:40] And now I feel like I don't have to do it as often.
[48:45] And I kind of do it intuitively based on like when I feel like
[48:49] my body needs it. And more like a reset.
[48:52] Yeah, yeah, I think you can definitely overdo it with
[48:55] fasting. It can be detrimental if you do
[48:57] too much of it, like any of these bio hacks, you know?
[48:59] But I also don't really agree with people who say that like,
[49:02] women should never fast and that fasting is not a good idea at
[49:06] all and it's not healthy. Like totally disagree with that
[49:09] notion. I've also found it to be so
[49:12] beneficial kind of like with cold punching in terms of just
[49:16] the mental discipline of doing something that's hard and kind
[49:20] of like the rewards and the transformation that can come
[49:23] from doing hard things. And then spiritually as well,
[49:27] like for me, like as a Christian, the Bible says like
[49:30] the Bible doesn't talk about fasting in the sense of if you
[49:33] decide to fast. It talks about in a sense of
[49:35] like when you fast. So I believe like as a follower
[49:39] of Jesus, it's something that we are called to do and incorporate
[49:43] into our lives and, and really like commit ourselves to praying
[49:47] for certain things and accompanying that with fasting.
[49:50] And so I've seen the benefits of that personally.
[49:53] And, and going forward, honestly, like now fasting is
[49:57] more of that for me. Like when I do engage in it,
[50:00] it's more of a a mental spiritual thing and less of a
[50:03] physical thing. Yeah, that's so beautiful.
[50:07] Thanks. Love that, can you What are some
[50:09] resources you would recommend if people are new to fasting and
[50:11] wanting to start incorporating it?
[50:13] Yeah, Doctor Jason Fung has a great book called The Complete
[50:16] Guide to Fasting. Will Cole also has a book on
[50:20] fasting that I read. That one was really good.
[50:23] And then I wrote, I've written a few blog posts about fasting
[50:26] that I think are really helpful where I explained like exactly
[50:29] how I started the process because like I mentioned, I was
[50:33] someone that was like snacking or eating from the time I wake
[50:37] up, from the time I went to bed all of my life.
[50:39] And so initially the idea of fasting just seemed really scary
[50:43] and honestly kind of impossible. Totally.
[50:46] But I really break down these blog posts like exactly how I
[50:48] went about it in a gentle way that wasn't like too much of A
[50:52] shock to my system. And it and it started with
[50:54] intermittent fasting just shortening my eating window
[50:57] throughout the day and then kind of shortening that more and more
[51:00] and more. Not every single day.
[51:02] There was still some days where I would eat breakfast, lunch,
[51:04] dinner, normal. But yeah, it was kind of a
[51:07] gradual progression starting with intermittent fasting and
[51:09] then getting into like my first 24 hour fast and then my first
[51:13] 72 hour fast. And the longest one I did is was
[51:17] a six day fast. And I have a blog post on and
[51:20] purelife.com all about that. The comments section has been
[51:23] going off on your fasting loaded and everyone's sharing their own
[51:27] experiences and their journey. That's actually.
[51:29] A really good place to like to start and to hear other people's
[51:32] experiences on fasting too. Yep, definitely yeah.
[51:35] And we'll link those blog posts and book recommendations in the
[51:38] show notes, too. So as we wrap up our favorite
[51:40] bio hacks, there are several others that we haven't talked
[51:43] about, either because we haven't tried them yet or we have tried
[51:46] them and we hate them. So let's just let's quickly go
[51:50] through a few that we haven't really talked in depth about and
[51:53] why that's the case. Yeah, let's do it.
[51:57] NAD plus IV therapy. Do you have thoughts?
[52:01] The only thoughts I have is that I was seeing an endocrinologist
[52:06] a few years back who takes a very holistic approach.
[52:09] Like her whole emphasis was on balanced nutrition and stress
[52:13] reduction and supplementation and we weren't really getting
[52:19] very far and she recommended this for me.
[52:21] I never did it but it was on her recommendation and I truly
[52:25] trusted her and her approach and her holistic mindedness and so I
[52:30] was open to it. But then I didn't actually
[52:33] pursue it. So doesn't really answer the
[52:36] question, but it was on my rater for a little bit.
[52:38] Yeah, would you do it if you were presented with the option?
[52:44] I think I would purely because it was almost as if she had
[52:47] prescribed it to me. And like I think this would be
[52:49] really beneficial after taking all my labs and knowing me
[52:52] intimately for like 2 years because I trusted her.
[52:55] But I honestly haven't done my own personal research even on
[52:58] what it is or what the effects are, but purely because I was
[53:01] working with her I would. I know it's good for longevity.
[53:05] That's really all I know about it.
[53:07] But I think it's been like well studied and and I think that
[53:12] there are probably a lot of benefits to it.
[53:13] But what I don't like about this one is that it takes so long.
[53:18] It I've heard it makes you feel like you are like crawling in
[53:21] your skin, like it jacks you up like how people describe it is
[53:25] what I would imagine it feels like to be on speed.
[53:28] Wow. I know.
[53:28] And so that's a bit of a turn off for me.
[53:30] Yep. And then the IV, because you
[53:32] have to, because it does have that effect.
[53:34] Like it you have to go so slow with it that I've heard it can
[53:38] take like four or five hours. In terms of the cost benefit
[53:41] analysis, like this one, the cost for me just feels like it
[53:45] might be too high. Yeah.
[53:46] And I'm not interested. OK.
[53:48] And it's really expensive. OK.
[53:49] I think actually that was one of the reasons I was like, maybe
[53:51] I'll pause on this because they did look it up at a local clinic
[53:54] and it was quite expensive. Yeah, yeah, not worth it in my.
[53:57] Opinion I like to stay calm so if that makes me feel like I'm
[54:01] being numb mate. And maybe it doesn't.
[54:03] If anyone's tried it, please let me know what it.
[54:05] I know it would give me like. A solid description of what it
[54:08] feels like, but it doesn't sound fun based on what I've heard.
[54:11] Yeah. OK, coffee enemas.
[54:15] This is 1 I just can't get behind, pun intended.
[54:20] But I have tried it twice and I just it just it just can't do it
[54:26] on a regular basis. What didn't you like about it?
[54:32] I think everything she's like. Everything it, I think it just
[54:36] feels like slightly invasive. And like you, were violated.
[54:41] A bit and like having to lay on the bathroom floor and then go
[54:44] to the bathroom feeling like I was just in India for six weeks,
[54:47] like I'm not here for that. I get that, I get that.
[54:50] I did coffee enemas regularly for a really long time.
[54:54] And then I stopped when I got pregnant with with my son.
[54:58] And, you know, that was, you know, two years ago.
[55:00] He's 2, he's 2 now. And I always thought like, I'll
[55:02] get back into it. I'll get back into it.
[55:04] And I just haven't like felt, haven't felt peace about like
[55:09] diving back into the coffee enemas for whatever reason.
[55:12] I think it is like a bit of a process too.
[55:15] And then the cleaning, like the brewing coffee, the cleaning,
[55:19] another one that just kind of, it feels like a big
[55:22] inconvenience. And I know, like, I've done it
[55:25] regularly. Like when you get in the habit
[55:26] of it, it's fine. But yeah, it just hasn't been
[55:30] something that I've been eager to like, dive back into.
[55:33] Have you ever done water enemas or purely coffee?
[55:36] No, I've never done a water enema.
[55:38] I've only done coffee. Cuz actually I did the water
[55:41] once. I have never done a coffee, but
[55:42] it was water that I did. I do love the feeling
[55:45] afterwards, like you do feel really clear headed and good,
[55:48] but I feel that way from doing ozone insufflations, rectal
[55:51] insufflations and that's a lot less of a headache.
[55:55] I also do colonics. I do colonics once a month.
[55:58] I think I would prefer to do that, just have someone else,
[56:00] yeah. Exactly, take care of it exactly
[56:02] and you don't have to deal with any of it, any of the mess or
[56:05] any of the like pre or post stuff.
[56:07] But I do like my monthly colonics.
[56:09] Is it a similar experience like how you feel after with the
[56:12] coffee enema and the colonics? Yeah, because she flushes me
[56:15] with water several times and then she does a coffee flush at
[56:17] the end. So you still get that boost in
[56:20] glutathione and like the mental clarity and all of that.
[56:23] So amazing. It's like so much salt that you
[56:25] just float on the surface. And I think what people say
[56:29] about this is that it's super relaxing.
[56:32] I know at the place that I went to, they were saying that a lot
[56:34] of a lot of veterans would come in and it would like it was.
[56:39] It was the only place that they were able to really relax and
[56:42] sleep. Like some people would come in
[56:43] and sleep in the float tank like overnight, so I could see there
[56:50] being a place for it. It's not something that I would
[56:53] like spend time on or pay to do. I didn't.
[56:57] I just didn't get that much out of it personally.
[57:01] Did you feel claustrophobic in it?
[57:02] No. Or like okay.
[57:03] No, I just didn't like it. It was just kind of like that
[57:06] was just floated for an hour. I did float in the Dead Sea and
[57:11] thought it was a cool experience.
[57:12] Well, that would be. Really.
[57:13] But not like out in the open in nature and like an enclosed
[57:17] like. That's an experience for sure,
[57:19] yes. This was like trying to emulate
[57:21] that, but kind of missing the mark in my opinion, yeah.
[57:23] What about wearables? The aura ring, the whoop
[57:27] bracelet? Like these things are so popular
[57:29] right now so. Popular.
[57:31] Would you ever get any of those or try any of those?
[57:34] I feel like I have an unpopular opinion, but I do not love them.
[57:39] I feel like sometimes it can just feel a little like, I think
[57:42] if you had a very intentional purpose for it and you're
[57:46] tracking something that's like vital to your health and you're
[57:48] trying to see balanced and it can help you reach those goals
[57:53] in a very specific way. But I feel like it could easily
[57:56] just become like a little bit obsessive with like tracking all
[57:59] this data and all these numbers. And I, I just, it just feels
[58:05] like too much. And unless I'm really using the
[58:07] data to make, like if you're using the data to make changes
[58:11] in your health, but just to track it, just to track it feels
[58:14] like. An extra variable that you maybe
[58:17] don't need. Yes, and I don't love having
[58:19] something attached to me at all times so.
[58:23] Yeah, I I agree. I think they can be valuable,
[58:26] just depending on what your goals are.
[58:28] I was interested, I was really interested in getting the aura
[58:31] ring several years ago, but this was when my son was little.
[58:35] And I'm like, I'm being woken up multiple times a night.
[58:38] Like I have all these things outside of my control.
[58:40] I don't want a device telling me like you've you slept horrible
[58:43] last night. Like, OK, I know I did.
[58:45] Yeah. There's nothing I can do to
[58:46] change that. So in the beginning, I'm like,
[58:49] I, I don't want to deal with that.
[58:51] Like a stress of having something tell me that I'm not
[58:53] doing well when there's nothing I can do to change it.
[58:55] Yeah. But now I kind of almost still
[58:57] feel the same way. Like if I make a choice that is
[59:00] going to impact my sleep or my heart rate variability or
[59:03] whatever, it's like most of the time I try my best.
[59:07] And if I don't, it's because I'm intentionally choosing to like
[59:09] sacrifice this health marker for this other thing.
[59:13] And it's, it is what it is and I'm choosing to do it.
[59:15] And I know it's like, I just, I don't know, I feel like if you
[59:18] have an awareness of these things already, yes, maybe it
[59:21] isn't as necessary. But that's just my two cents.
[59:26] Yeah. Same.
[59:27] Some people love them and yeah and get a lot out of.
[59:29] Them yes, which is fun when I have facial guests who wear
[59:31] their aura ring and then they look back at that day it they
[59:35] took a nap during that hour of their facial like that's how
[59:38] deeply relaxed they were is their ring thought it was cool.
[59:41] It's interesting like. Totally.
[59:42] It's interesting. Place in life where you can take
[59:44] it all like as information and not and not let it impact you
[59:50] too much or like stress you out too much.
[59:53] But it can be helpful. What about rebounding?
[59:55] Oh, love. Yeah.
[59:57] Love. That was an easy one.
[59:58] Yeah. Yeah.
[59:59] Have one. Love it.
[1:00:00] It's just a simple, simple, fun way to get your lymphatic system
[1:00:04] going, which is so vital for health.
[1:00:06] And it makes you feel like a little kid again.
[1:00:08] And you really only need like. I mean, you can do it however
[1:00:10] long you want, but even just like 3 minutes in the afternoon
[1:00:13] can provide such a benefit. That's a good bang for your
[1:00:15] buck. Great bang for your.
[1:00:16] Buck Biohack, OK, I think that was a good one to end on, good
[1:00:19] positive light one to finish up with.
[1:00:22] Yes, Bethany, I love your bio hacks.
[1:00:24] They're so inspiring, hiring and just seeing how you implement
[1:00:27] these. As a mother of three running a
[1:00:29] business, it's like it is possible to take care of your
[1:00:31] health and it's so vital to show up with the purpose that you
[1:00:35] feel called to follow this side of heaven.
[1:00:38] And so thanks for sharing all of your insights today.
[1:00:40] So grateful. Thanks.
[1:00:41] And I love your simple approach to all of it.
[1:00:42] Like you don't have to have all the things.
[1:00:44] Sometimes they can be helpful and beneficial, but there's also
[1:00:47] a lot you can do on your own with just the earth and your own
[1:00:52] breath work and just O many different things that all of us
[1:00:55] have access to. Yes.

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