# Frances Tiafoe Joins the Pod, 200th Episode Celebration & ATP Tinder | EP 200

An episode of [Nothing Major](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1756744318), 30 Jul 2026, 57 min.

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Episode 200 is absolute chaos from the start as Frances Tiafoe gets dragged onto the pod and immediately lives up to the hype. The guys relive Tommy Paul's wedding: Reilly's unforgettable speech, Tommy getting emotional, Frances losing his shirt, and John cashing a 5-to-1 bet with Querrey because apparently wagering on your friend's tears is perfectly normal. Then Frances looks back on the moment he believed he could make it, while the guys roast his junior forehand. He also shares stories from USTA dorm life, questionable roommates, why he's a driving nightmare, and the early Tour days before revisiting his unforgettable five-set heartbreak against John Isner at the US Open, his awful head-to-head against the boys... and the locker-room trash talk that followed after John's retirement. To celebrate Episode 200, ATP Tinder returns for Part 4 as Frances rates AI-generated versions of ATP stars, leading to nonstop roasting, brutal comparisons, and plenty of casualties. The episode wraps with Summer Buy/Sell picks, Fan Questions, and a reverse quiz game... exactly the kind of hilarious, unfiltered nonsense that's made Nothing Major 200 episodes strong! Chapters: 00:00 200th Episode Kickoff 00:40 Frances Tiafoe Joins the Pod! 01:22 Tommy Paul Wedding Stories 03:22 From Juniors to Pro Dream 05:58 USTA Dorm Life Chaos 09:01 Driving and Rivalries 13:26 Early Tour Battles 15:53 US Open Heartbreaker 17:52 Roland Garros Celebration 19:27 Travel Disasters and Miles Program 23:35 DC and US Open Energy 27:08 Night Match Routine 28:53 ATP Tinder... Is BACK! 34:06 Fila Tee and Combover 35:34 200th Episode Highlights 36:28 Tennis Warehouse Ad Read 38:12 Buy/Sell Picks for US Swing 40:40 Fan Questions 44:40 Racquet Grip Sizes 48:00 Reverse Quiz Game 55:43 Goodbye! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: All right, everyone, on today's episode of Nothing Major, it's
[0:02] Speaker 1: a big one. It's our 200th episode. And to celebrate,
[0:06] Speaker 1: we have probably our best interview to date, maybe the
[0:09] Speaker 1: most last for sure with Francis Tiafoe. And of course,
[0:12] Speaker 1: we include ATP Tinder part four with him, plus a
[0:14] Speaker 1: few fan questions, buy and sell, you name it. So
[0:17] Speaker 1: let's get into the show.
[0:18] Speaker 2: Jack Jones, Stevie and Sam, got close a few times,
[0:22] Speaker 2: never won a slam, nothing major.
[0:23] Speaker 1: All right, everyone, we are back. I've got John Isner,
[0:26] Speaker 1: Sam Querrey, Charlie Fox, the team at SIFT with us.
[0:29] Speaker 1: It's our 200th show, so let's kick it off with
[0:32] Speaker 1: an absolute banger of an interview with Francis Tiafoe. We
[0:36] Speaker 1: cornered him, we got him on the pod, so here
[0:38] Speaker 1: it is, Francis Tiafoe. All right, everyone, this is a
[0:42] Speaker 1: big show.
[0:42] Speaker 3: This is our 200th episode, and there's no better way
[0:47] Speaker 3: to have our 200th episode because we are joined by
[0:51] Speaker 3: the 2024 Delray Beach semifinalist, the.
[0:55] Speaker 1: One and only Francis Tiafoe. Big foe. Thanks for coming on, man.
[1:02] Speaker 1: We appreciate it. That was a great run, man. Everyone
[1:04] Speaker 1: remembers it.
[1:05] Speaker 3: Great run to the Sebbies in Delray. We ran into
[1:09] Speaker 3: you at Tommy Paul's wedding. We put a little peer
[1:12] Speaker 3: pressure on you to come on the show. Stevie then
[1:15] Speaker 3: fired off the text and we got you. So thanks
[1:17] Speaker 3: for coming on.
[1:18] Speaker 4: Nah, man. It's awesome to be here with you guys, man.
[1:20] Speaker 4: Long overdue, brother.
[1:22] Speaker 1: For sure.
[1:23] Speaker 3: So like I just said, we ran into you at
[1:25] Speaker 3: the wedding. What was the best moment of the wedding
[1:28] Speaker 3: for you?
[1:29] Speaker 4: I mean, I think we all agree Riley's speech was
[1:30] Speaker 4: pretty special.
[1:33] Speaker 3: Riley's speech was amazing.
[1:35] Speaker 4: It was pretty special.
[1:36] Speaker 5: But, I mean, I think honestly just seeing, like, TP, like,
[1:40] Speaker 5: so emotional and, like, you know, crying. I mean, I've
[1:43] Speaker 5: known the guy all my life pretty much, and I've
[1:46] Speaker 5: never seen him get choked up or choke on words
[1:49] Speaker 5: and cry, like, ever.
[1:51] Speaker 2: Dude, did you think he was, like, no shot, right?
[1:54] Speaker 1: You didn't think he was going to cry?
[1:56] Speaker 4: No, I thought he was going to be just– Completely Mrs.
[2:00] Speaker 4: Smooth and just be in there and just kill it.
[2:02] Speaker 1: Exactly.
[2:03] Speaker 2: So I didn't think he was going to cry either,
[2:04] Speaker 2: but I made a bet with Quarry right there, and
[2:08] Speaker 2: he gave me five to one odds. I said he
[2:09] Speaker 2: was going to cry, but I needed five to one
[2:11] Speaker 2: odds on five bucks. So I won $ 25 off of
[2:15] Speaker 2: Sam thanks to Tommy tearing up.
[2:16] Speaker 4: That's great. That's awesome. That's awesome.
[2:21] Speaker 3: I thought No Way was going to cry. You, for us,
[2:24] Speaker 3: you were one of the highlights, though. Like, your shirt
[2:26] Speaker 3: was off 10 minutes into the reception. Was that just
[2:29] Speaker 3: because you were sweating so much? Or is that just
[2:31] Speaker 3: you're feeling the vibe and wanted the shirt off? Because
[2:34] Speaker 3: your shirt's off a lot.
[2:35] Speaker 5: I mean, my shirt is off a lot. I'm surprised
[2:36] Speaker 5: I got a shirt on the show. I'm respecting y'all,
[2:38] Speaker 5: for sure.
[2:39] Speaker 4: But, no, I mean, I was sweating like nobody's business.
[2:43] Speaker 4: I had to get off.
[2:44] Speaker 3: Luckily, they had the fans blowing at the weddings. They
[2:46] Speaker 3: had the fans going in the tent. Otherwise, yeah, there
[2:49] Speaker 3: was probably been more shirts off.
[2:51] Speaker 4: No, it was, I mean, it was brutal. It was brutal.
[2:54] Speaker 4: But I mean, I'm happy. I'm happy I made it. Lovely.
[2:56] Speaker 1: Well, thanks again for joining us. It was a well-documented
[2:59] Speaker 1: battle with you and your shirt. I forget. I think
[3:01] Speaker 1: it was Fritz was putting it on or was it Opelka?
[3:03] Speaker 1: I can't remember, but.
[3:05] Speaker 4: No, no, no.
[3:05] Speaker 5: It was super well. I mean, they had play-by-play. Like,
[3:08] Speaker 5: it was actually awesome. I just kept reposting it.
[3:10] Speaker 4: It was dope.
[3:11] Speaker 1: I got a great photo with you, too, with the
[3:13] Speaker 1: shirt off. I just didn't post it. I got a
[3:15] Speaker 1: gold one. We were in front of the bar. We
[3:17] Speaker 1: were about to get a drink, foe.
[3:18] Speaker 4: Yeah, no, that was actually a sick one, honestly.
[3:21] Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.
[3:22] Speaker 4: It was good.
[3:22] Speaker 2: Well, look, I wouldn't, I wouldn't wear my shirt if
[3:24] Speaker 2: I had your body either, but honestly, we're going to get,
[3:29] Speaker 2: we're going to get a little bit serious here. It's
[3:30] Speaker 2: not all fun and games. Talk about like your journey
[3:34] Speaker 2: in this sport. Obviously it's well-documented like your upbringing coming up,
[3:39] Speaker 2: growing up in the DMV.
[3:40] Speaker 1: But what I want to know is when did.
[3:42] Speaker 2: You realize that you actually like that you had a
[3:45] Speaker 2: chance to make it in this sport professionally and Um,
[3:49] Speaker 2: at what point in your junior career did you feel like, like,
[3:51] Speaker 2: all right, this is what I'm going to do.
[3:53] Speaker 1: I'm going to go for it.
[3:54] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[3:54] Speaker 5: I mean, obviously that's, that was the goal from young,
[3:56] Speaker 5: but you know, I didn't, I didn't know it was
[3:58] Speaker 5: kind of realistic. I didn't really know what I was
[4:00] Speaker 5: kind of chasing. I was just, I just wanted to
[4:02] Speaker 5: be the best of my peers. That was kind of
[4:04] Speaker 5: like my thing. Um, and then, you know, like probably
[4:10] Speaker 5: when I was at 15, 14, 13, 14, I had
[4:11] Speaker 5: a nice growth spurt and I started playing much better.
[4:14] Speaker 5: And then, um, Yeah, I mean, I think when I
[4:18] Speaker 5: won the Orange Bowl and beat Kozlov, that was kind
[4:19] Speaker 5: of the moment where I was like, yeah, I think
[4:22] Speaker 5: I can do the thing. Because he was, I mean,
[4:24] Speaker 5: he was God's gift at that point.
[4:25] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[4:26] Speaker 1: So that was the moment when it clicked. But even
[4:28] Speaker 1: with that jacked up forehand, I mean, you fixed it a.
[4:31] Speaker 4: Lot, dude.
[4:34] Speaker 2: If our team here at SIF can find a video
[4:37] Speaker 2: of you with that forehand of yours in junior tennis, like,
[4:40] Speaker 2: I mean, if I was a coach, I'd be like, dude,
[4:42] Speaker 2: this guy needs to find another sport.
[4:44] Speaker 1: That thing was jacked up. But you had to go.
[4:47] Speaker 1: You made it work, dude. You made it work.
[4:49] Speaker 4: Well, I mean, that thing was torched, man.
[4:51] Speaker 5: I'm not saying it's much better now, but that thing was, like,
[4:54] Speaker 5: complete garbage.
[4:56] Speaker 4: But it got me some places.
[4:57] Speaker 2: I got, okay, between all the guys that were at
[5:00] Speaker 2: the wedding, you, obviously, Tommy, Riley, Taylor Fritz, between the
[5:06] Speaker 2: four of you, who was, like, the far and away
[5:08] Speaker 2: better player, the best player, excuse me, in juniors between
[5:11] Speaker 2: the four of you guys?
[5:12] Speaker 5: Taylor was definitely a late bloomer. I mean, he had
[5:14] Speaker 5: two left feet for sure.
[5:15] Speaker 4: Yeah. Riley also a bit of a late bloomer.
[5:20] Speaker 5: He was pretty good when we were young, but he
[5:21] Speaker 5: got really good when we got a little older.
[5:24] Speaker 4: I would say it was probably, I.
[5:28] Speaker 5: Mean, myself and Tommy were very, very tight, and Riley
[5:33] Speaker 5: was pretty good as well.
[5:33] Speaker 4: But, I mean, Kozlov was the guy. Koz, okay, the Koz.
[5:38] Speaker 4: Koz was, I mean, he was a freak. I thought
[5:42] Speaker 4: he was the best by far. I mean, no question.
[5:44] Speaker 4: I think all the guys would agree to that.
[5:45] Speaker 2: He's still out there grinding too, man.
[5:48] Speaker 1: You go to the challenger tournaments on the app, he's
[5:51] Speaker 1: out there grinding. Yeah. But I mean, Big Fo, you
[5:54] Speaker 1: kind of mentioned like, you know, with Taylor, Tommy, Riley,
[5:58] Speaker 1: you know, these guys, you guys all lived at the USTA.
[6:00] Speaker 1: I mean, were you guys having like just the most
[6:02] Speaker 1: fun at like 14, 15, 16, like living together in
[6:04] Speaker 1: the dorms, playing, practicing, or was it like super competitive
[6:07] Speaker 1: with you guys out there on the practice courts?
[6:09] Speaker 4: No, I mean, we're all idiots, man. Just doing stupid stuff,
[6:11] Speaker 4: getting in trouble.
[6:13] Speaker 5: I mean, we, Coach has pushed us hard, man. I mean,
[6:16] Speaker 5: it was cool. It was cool balance being with those guys,
[6:18] Speaker 5: like how crazy they were. And then obviously being at home,
[6:20] Speaker 5: it was super weird. I go back to Maryland, I
[6:22] Speaker 5: was like the man. Then you come back down there
[6:25] Speaker 5: and you're like, I mean, I'm with a bunch of
[6:28] Speaker 5: dudes like that are the guys where they're from. So
[6:30] Speaker 5: it was an interesting dynamic for me.
[6:32] Speaker 4: But we're all just really close, man. I mean, just
[6:35] Speaker 4: being kids is trying to just figure it out. But
[6:37] Speaker 4: ultimately you just.
[6:38] Speaker 5: We did a lot of stupid stuff. But we were
[6:42] Speaker 5: all really good, and we all hated to lose. I
[6:44] Speaker 5: think that was the biggest thing that kind of got
[6:46] Speaker 5: us close. We all hated to lose, but we all
[6:48] Speaker 5: wanted each other to win. It was all like good blood,
[6:50] Speaker 5: as long as it wasn't against one another.
[6:53] Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I feel like I know the answer
[6:55] Speaker 1: to this, but who's causing the most trouble in that
[6:57] Speaker 1: dorm room?
[6:57] Speaker 4: Oh, I mean, Tommy.
[6:58] Speaker 1: Tommy was a different beast, man.
[7:00] Speaker 4: Tommy was a different beast. Good question, Steve. I mean,
[7:06] Speaker 4: it was a different reason.
[7:07] Speaker 1: Any good stories that stick out there?
[7:08] Speaker 4: I mean, obviously the rope story is pretty iconic.
[7:14] Speaker 5: I don't want to do my man like that.
[7:18] Speaker 1: You don't want to get anybody in trouble out here.
[7:20] Speaker 4: No, no, no.
[7:22] Speaker 5: I mean, there was some good ones. I mean, things
[7:26] Speaker 5: that I just believe that he did.
[7:29] Speaker 1: Who was your actual roommate when you were like 14, 15,
[7:31] Speaker 1: 16 in Orlando?
[7:34] Speaker 5: Oh, we, this, this is Boca at the time. This
[7:35] Speaker 5: is back in, yeah, this is Boca at the time,
[7:37] Speaker 5: but we were, uh, I mean, I was, I was
[7:40] Speaker 5: in and out. So, I mean, I would be, I'd
[7:43] Speaker 5: be with, uh, I'd be with Tommy sometimes, be with
[7:45] Speaker 5: Blumberg sometimes, Riley, Nathan Pondwith. Uh, Blumberg was also a
[7:51] Speaker 5: different beast. Um, me and Mo, me and Mo would
[7:54] Speaker 5: room together.
[7:55] Speaker 4: Um, Yeah, I mean, there was a weird, like, funny
[7:59] Speaker 4: going on back in the day, for sure.
[8:01] Speaker 1: I mean, who would be, like, the dirtiest or, like,
[8:03] Speaker 1: you get down there, you're like, I've got this guy
[8:04] Speaker 1: as a roommate. I mean, you pretty much get along
[8:06] Speaker 1: with everyone. But who is, like, the guy you're like,
[8:08] Speaker 1: I don't want to room with him this week. He's
[8:09] Speaker 1: dirty or he's, you know, he kind of makes a mess.
[8:12] Speaker 1: Or would that be you?
[8:13] Speaker 4: No, no, no. I'm actually, like, people won't believe it,
[8:15] Speaker 4: but I'm actually quite excited. It's kind of weird. I
[8:18] Speaker 4: like that.
[8:19] Speaker 1: It doesn't look that way on the court after you've
[8:20] Speaker 1: taken off 14 shirts and five centers.
[8:24] Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's when I get so stressed out that
[8:27] Speaker 5: I'm just like, I'm just throwing it out. Like, I
[8:28] Speaker 5: don't even care. Blumberg was pretty bad. I mean, everyone was, like,
[8:33] Speaker 5: pretty bad, but we had, like, if we wanted to, like,
[8:36] Speaker 5: back then go to the mall, and that was, like,
[8:37] Speaker 5: the most fun thing to do in Boca.
[8:40] Speaker 4: We had to, like, pass a cleaning check.
[8:42] Speaker 5: So, yeah, rooms would be completely disgusting, and then, like, come, like, Thursday,
[8:46] Speaker 5: we'd all be, like, full cleaning, like, vacuuming, but... Tommy
[8:51] Speaker 5: Blumberg were pretty bad. But I used to ruin Mo
[8:53] Speaker 5: a lot, and he was disgusting.
[8:55] Speaker 4: Completely disgusting. I mean, he was another level, bro. Oh, man.
[9:01] Speaker 3: Did anyone get their license first, and then at 16,
[9:04] Speaker 3: able to put the crew in the car and drive
[9:06] Speaker 3: to the mall.
[9:07] Speaker 4: Or the movie theater?
[9:08] Speaker 1: We all know who didn't get their license first.
[9:09] Speaker 4: Yeah, we know you.
[9:11] Speaker 1: We know that. It's the guy right here.
[9:13] Speaker 4: I'm about three years in, bro.
[9:15] Speaker 2: Three, four years in.
[9:18] Speaker 5: Yeah I definitely wasn't doing that I mean I was
[9:20] Speaker 5: my Uber bills were getting quite expensive for sure so um.
[9:24] Speaker 1: Want the guys get it first.
[9:25] Speaker 4: Yeah yeah yeah I mean Riley Riley I.
[9:27] Speaker 5: Remember when we were young 17 Riley got a cool
[9:30] Speaker 5: Cadillac um and then Tommy got a pretty pretty cool
[9:33] Speaker 5: car so it was Tommy and Riley and they were
[9:35] Speaker 5: And then they got a place together, so they were
[9:37] Speaker 5: riding around, and I would catch rides with them all
[9:39] Speaker 5: the time.
[9:39] Speaker 2: Yeah, I can totally picture Tommy driving around without a license.
[9:43] Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He doesn't give a crap.
[9:45] Speaker 4: Yeah, he doesn't care.
[9:46] Speaker 5: He's like, oh, I'm only going around the corner, so
[9:48] Speaker 5: we'll break it up.
[9:48] Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I mean, hold on. Before we move on, Sam,
[9:51] Speaker 1: Big Foe, if we're in Cincinnati, we're in Mason, Ohio,
[9:54] Speaker 1: we're at the hotel, can you safely get us from
[9:57] Speaker 1: downtown Cincinnati to the tennis courts? No, I wouldn't.
[10:00] Speaker 4: Course, of course, of course, of course. I'm nice. I'm
[10:02] Speaker 4: a good driver.
[10:03] Speaker 1: Are you driving in Cincinnati or somebody else?
[10:05] Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no.
[10:05] Speaker 4: I'm driving, I'm driving.
[10:06] Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right. We've had some people say otherwise.
[10:09] Speaker 2: What about from the tennis center in D.C.? And you've
[10:11] Speaker 2: got to get to the hotel in downtown D.C., all
[10:14] Speaker 2: those one-way streets with the circles and.
[10:17] Speaker 1: All this stuff.
[10:18] Speaker 4: It's a tough drive.
[10:18] Speaker 1: It is a tough drive.
[10:20] Speaker 4: It's a tough— like, you've got to actually— But I'll kill it.
[10:23] Speaker 1: Can you do it without the Apple Maps?
[10:26] Speaker 5: Oh, hell no. My sense of direction is garbage. And
[10:32] Speaker 5: I grew up in the city. I'm still having GPS.
[10:34] Speaker 1: Oh, that's so good.
[10:36] Speaker 3: Speaking of all those guys that you were in the
[10:39] Speaker 3: dorms with and at the wedding with, when you guys
[10:41] Speaker 3: were that age, like 15, 16, were you guys competitive
[10:44] Speaker 3: with each other? Or was it friendly?
[10:48] Speaker 4: No, it was all friendly.
[10:49] Speaker 5: I don't even, like, we didn't even talk that much tennis,
[10:51] Speaker 5: to be honest, like, when we weren't there. I mean,
[10:53] Speaker 5: we're all cocky as hell, so we're all, like, clowning, like,
[10:56] Speaker 5: we have our kids and doing all that type of stuff.
[10:57] Speaker 5: But we weren't, like, super competitive and doing dumb stuff.
[11:00] Speaker 5: I mean, maybe we're, like, playing, like, mini tennis, because
[11:02] Speaker 5: I was, like, USTA. I mean, they, like, controlled us
[11:05] Speaker 5: so much that, like, with that type of stuff, we
[11:07] Speaker 5: would like being competitive, because.
[11:08] Speaker 4: Like, there's always fun serving at somebody, but they lose.
[11:11] Speaker 4: But other than that, not, I mean, not really. I mean,
[11:14] Speaker 4: we just... I mean, wild card tournaments and stuff, maybe, but.
[11:19] Speaker 3: You're one of the funniest guys. Opelka's one of the
[11:21] Speaker 3: funniest guys. Is Opelka still the funniest of, like, the
[11:25] Speaker 3: guys in the group, would you say?
[11:26] Speaker 4: Riley Opelka is one of the funniest dudes I know.
[11:29] Speaker 5: And I think, because, I mean, he's just like me,
[11:32] Speaker 5: where he just doesn't care to say anything off the cuff.
[11:34] Speaker 4: I mean, I get away with a lot of things.
[11:36] Speaker 4: I'll just be, like, smiling.
[11:37] Speaker 5: But his actual, like, jokes and wordplay is pretty impressive. Like,
[11:41] Speaker 5: things that come to his head. In, like, the most
[11:44] Speaker 5: random times, it's pretty funny.
[11:46] Speaker 3: Would you say out of all the guys, like, do
[11:48] Speaker 3: you feel like everyone's kind of similar to, like, when
[11:50] Speaker 3: they were 16 compared to now? Like, everyone kind of
[11:52] Speaker 3: acts the same, similar mindset?
[11:55] Speaker 5: Yeah, everyone's exactly the same. You just mature a little
[11:58] Speaker 5: bit more, but everyone's exactly the same. I mean, I think, yeah,
[12:02] Speaker 5: I mean, everyone's tightening the screws a little bit. Like, obviously,
[12:04] Speaker 5: Tommy's not exactly how he was back then.
[12:06] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[12:07] Speaker 5: I mean, Riley, if anything, Riley wasn't as bad when
[12:10] Speaker 5: we were young.
[12:11] Speaker 4: Like, Riley wasn't talking off the cuff like that when
[12:12] Speaker 4: we were young. As he does now. I mean, now,
[12:15] Speaker 4: I mean, these guys have got a comment for everything.
[12:18] Speaker 1: Yeah, he does. He's found his voice. He's taking on
[12:21] Speaker 1: the doubles tour all by himself.
[12:25] Speaker 5: The fact that these guys are hitting first volleys and
[12:27] Speaker 5: thinking of Riley is the funniest thing I've ever seen
[12:29] Speaker 5: in my life.
[12:30] Speaker 4: I mean, it's incredible. It's incredible.
[12:36] Speaker 1: He's on a mission.
[12:37] Speaker 2: Also, if someone was at Tommy's wedding, go back to
[12:40] Speaker 2: his wedding, there was kind of like, Not many people
[12:42] Speaker 2: are posting anything.
[12:42] Speaker 1: But if someone had a video of his speech, it
[12:45] Speaker 1: was unbelievable.
[12:46] Speaker 4: It was incredible. Even his joke, like he came to
[12:49] Speaker 4: the table, he's like, oh, man, sorry I did the joke.
[12:52] Speaker 4: I was like, bro, I love it.
[12:53] Speaker 1: He spared no one. He went after it. It was great.
[12:57] Speaker 1: More of a roast than a speech.
[12:58] Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a roast. To his credit, he said,
[13:01] Speaker 4: I'm coming for all of you. Yeah, exactly.
[13:03] Speaker 1: And he kept saying it.
[13:04] Speaker 5: And I wasn't even paying attention to it. I wasn't
[13:06] Speaker 5: thinking about it in his speech. I wasn't even thinking
[13:08] Speaker 5: about it. But he's like, I got every single one.
[13:10] Speaker 5: I just want you all to be prepared.
[13:12] Speaker 3: It was great because it was almost like an inside
[13:14] Speaker 3: joke amongst the 25 people there that got it. And
[13:16] Speaker 3: there was 200 people that didn't get the references.
[13:18] Speaker 1: If you got it, you got it.
[13:20] Speaker 4: Yeah, you got it, you got it.
[13:21] Speaker 5: Especially all y'all, like the 10th players, everyone got it,
[13:25] Speaker 5: which is pretty funny.
[13:26] Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about when you first burst on
[13:28] Speaker 2: to the professional scene, Big Foe.
[13:31] Speaker 1: What do you remember.
[13:31] Speaker 2: About the three of us in particular?
[13:34] Speaker 1: And also, and also, and also, and also.
[13:38] Speaker 2: is there one match between the three of us that
[13:40] Speaker 2: you had that maybe sticks out to you? Maybe one
[13:43] Speaker 2: that you lost in heartbreaking fashion? Yeah.
[13:46] Speaker 4: Well, first off, first off, you can go. I mean,
[13:55] Speaker 4: it's pretty funny. I mean, I like, you know, when
[13:57] Speaker 4: I think, when I think about you.
[13:58] Speaker 5: Guys, obviously, uh, you know, I mean, I was, I
[14:02] Speaker 5: was a, tennis nut growing up so it's like to
[14:04] Speaker 5: be able to come out and play against you guys
[14:06] Speaker 5: when i was super young and tour was super cool
[14:08] Speaker 5: but uh yeah i mean playing against you guys was
[14:12] Speaker 5: it's i'm just happy at least i got stevie at
[14:14] Speaker 5: the end but.
[14:16] Speaker 1: I will say i admitted it at the end i
[14:18] Speaker 1: remember shaking francis and i'm like i'm glad we got
[14:20] Speaker 1: you early because we ain't getting you anymore.
[14:22] Speaker 5: Yeah exactly exactly at the at the end um you
[14:26] Speaker 5: know i'm gonna bring this up again i mean i
[14:27] Speaker 5: told john this at the wedding but i mean he
[14:29] Speaker 5: still has one of the most classic lines of him
[14:31] Speaker 5: losing six to fifth this.
[14:34] Speaker 2: Is pretty good yeah yeah tell that story tell that
[14:37] Speaker 2: story losing six.
[14:38] Speaker 5: And a fifth mo i mean and you know we're
[14:40] Speaker 5: being grateful in the locker room you know he lost
[14:43] Speaker 5: racking like we don't even see him my last.
[14:45] Speaker 4: Ever match his last ever match.
[14:47] Speaker 5: And he comes in and you know you know you're
[14:49] Speaker 5: pissed or whatever emotions are going and he's tired as
[14:52] Speaker 5: hell and he walks in and he stops and looks
[14:54] Speaker 5: at tommy and i said well At least I never
[14:56] Speaker 5: lost to y'all in my career.
[15:00] Speaker 4: That was incredible.
[15:02] Speaker 5: I thought, like, the moment of it was just incredible.
[15:05] Speaker 1: Oh, that's so good.
[15:06] Speaker 5: Me and Tommy were dying laughing. But, nah, man, like,
[15:09] Speaker 5: playing you guys, I mean, I lost to John a lot.
[15:12] Speaker 5: Quarry got me real bad at the Franks one year.
[15:15] Speaker 5: That one stings.
[15:17] Speaker 4: Oh, wait, Stevie, I was up to Central up against
[15:19] Speaker 4: you and lost in the Franks.
[15:20] Speaker 1: In the French.
[15:21] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[15:22] Speaker 4: Damn, I forgot about that one.
[15:24] Speaker 1: What do you think your combined record was against the
[15:26] Speaker 1: three of us?
[15:27] Speaker 4: Man, I lost to John, what, four times? Three times?
[15:31] Speaker 4: Three or four times? I lost to you.
[15:35] Speaker 5: How many times did we play against him?
[15:38] Speaker 4: Twice? Yeah. Wow. I had a horrible record against y'all.
[15:41] Speaker 4: So what's that? Like one in seven?
[15:44] Speaker 1: Exactly. You were one in seven against the group. That's
[15:47] Speaker 1: pretty good.
[15:47] Speaker 4: Dude. God, man, this is really nothing major. God damn.
[15:51] Speaker 4: That's great.
[15:53] Speaker 1: Well, what about, what about that one? We're talking about seven,
[15:55] Speaker 1: six and the fifth. I tried to, you know, lead
[15:57] Speaker 1: you to the, to the, the answer there. US Open,
[16:00] Speaker 1: your first US Open.
[16:02] Speaker 4: Okay. So I just want to, let me paint the
[16:03] Speaker 4: picture for the viewers.
[16:04] Speaker 5: So, so I'm 18, you know, I got, I got
[16:08] Speaker 5: the little high top.
[16:10] Speaker 4: Like I got, I got the chains.
[16:11] Speaker 1: Got the high top. Yep.
[16:13] Speaker 4: Like I got the chains going, Nike, like neon colors.
[16:16] Speaker 4: I was feeling good.
[16:17] Speaker 5: Like, Win a Bucket of Challenges, I was like, yo,
[16:19] Speaker 5: I think I got it, John. I go up two
[16:21] Speaker 5: sets to love. I'm coming out.
[16:22] Speaker 4: I mean, I'm hitting, like, off overhead winners. I'm slapping forehands.
[16:26] Speaker 4: I'm playing out of my mind. I'm playing completely out
[16:29] Speaker 4: of my mind.
[16:30] Speaker 5: And, you know, the Wiley veteran just kind of keeps
[16:32] Speaker 5: holding serve and, you know, like, gets us to a fifth.
[16:35] Speaker 5: And I was cool with that and get a big
[16:37] Speaker 5: break at 4-3 in the fifth. Absolutely go nuts. Like,
[16:41] Speaker 5: I'm talking, like, I, like, I mean, you would have
[16:45] Speaker 5: thought I won the Open.
[16:46] Speaker 6: And.
[16:48] Speaker 4: By the way, this is the first ever match on
[16:49] Speaker 4: a new grandstand.
[16:50] Speaker 1: That's a grandstand, right? Yeah, that's exactly right.
[16:52] Speaker 4: First ever match on a new grandstand. Yeah, first on.
[16:55] Speaker 4: 30 love up in the game. So I'm like, this
[16:58] Speaker 4: is over. We're done. We're out of here. Ended up
[17:01] Speaker 4: getting broke in that game.
[17:04] Speaker 5: And I'm sitting there and I'm like, there's no way
[17:06] Speaker 5: this guy just broke me to stay here.
[17:10] Speaker 4: Me of all people did. I was like, there's no way.
[17:14] Speaker 4: It's impossible. And then we get to a breaker and
[17:17] Speaker 4: John does what he does best and win breakers.
[17:19] Speaker 5: And then, you know, obviously I give the big bear
[17:22] Speaker 5: a hug and absolutely gutted. And his reaction was massive
[17:27] Speaker 5: after that.
[17:28] Speaker 4: And it was awesome. It was a big moment. But
[17:31] Speaker 4: awesome for him, not so much for me.
[17:33] Speaker 1: I'll never forget that one. That was, that was fun.
[17:36] Speaker 1: The embrace. That was like the start of like, you,
[17:38] Speaker 1: you like.
[17:38] Speaker 2: To hug people at the net, you know? And I
[17:41] Speaker 2: feel like I got one of the first hugs from
[17:43] Speaker 2: Big Tho.
[17:45] Speaker 4: You got the start of it. People ask me about
[17:48] Speaker 4: that all the time. It's hilarious.
[17:51] Speaker 3: Speaking of celebrations, your celebration at Roland Garros this year,
[17:54] Speaker 3: after you beat Hercotch in five and you hit the
[17:56] Speaker 3: forehand winner, maybe the best celebration I've ever seen in
[17:59] Speaker 3: all of tennis. Shirt off, flexing to the camera. It
[18:02] Speaker 3: was like a two minute long celebration around the whole court,
[18:05] Speaker 3: like a parade. Like you were like part of the
[18:07] Speaker 3: Lakers winning a championship.
[18:09] Speaker 5: Bro, it was, but build up like context to it.
[18:12] Speaker 5: Like you got one, like I think I told you
[18:14] Speaker 5: that like sinners out. I got this, I got this,
[18:18] Speaker 5: I got this black dude screaming to me that sinners out.
[18:23] Speaker 5: And so, and so, and so it's like, yo, sinners out,
[18:26] Speaker 5: big foe is in, this is your time, blah, blah, blah.
[18:29] Speaker 4: Her cat, I'm up two sets to one at a time.
[18:30] Speaker 5: Her cat starts, in battling, and then it's 95 degrees,
[18:34] Speaker 5: it's so hot in Paris, I'm like, when is it
[18:36] Speaker 5: ever this hot? So as soon as I'm running to
[18:38] Speaker 5: the forehand, I was like, oh man, that felt good.
[18:40] Speaker 5: And I saw the winner, the crowd's right next to me,
[18:43] Speaker 5: I was like, let's give them a hug. They got
[18:45] Speaker 5: a little too excited, so then I came off it,
[18:48] Speaker 5: I dabbed by Hubie, I'm walking off the court, I'm like,
[18:50] Speaker 5: hold on, I'm thinking I'm down a racket. Like, Mark,
[18:55] Speaker 5: you know, Mark's Mark, he missed the detail. He's like, man,
[18:57] Speaker 5: you got to make a post.
[18:58] Speaker 4: You got like, we got to get this racket back.
[19:00] Speaker 4: If we don't have all rackets.
[19:01] Speaker 5: I was like, whoa, relax. It's a whatever big story.
[19:06] Speaker 5: And then the whole, that whole thing happened. But that
[19:08] Speaker 5: was one of the craziest reactions. And then screaming in
[19:10] Speaker 5: the crowd. And then when I came to, I was like,
[19:13] Speaker 5: I even laughed at Mark. I was like, damn, I'm
[19:14] Speaker 5: only in third round.
[19:15] Speaker 1: It was unbelievable. It was like my favorite moment of
[19:19] Speaker 1: the tournament. It was electric.
[19:21] Speaker 4: It was so good.
[19:22] Speaker 1: The course got a great atmosphere, though.
[19:24] Speaker 4: No, the course was sick.
[19:26] Speaker 1: Unreal.
[19:27] Speaker 3: Being a tennis player, we obviously travel all around the
[19:29] Speaker 3: world all year long. Have you ever had a horrible
[19:33] Speaker 3: travel disaster where multiple flights canceled, stuck somewhere for a
[19:38] Speaker 3: night or two or anything like that?
[19:39] Speaker 4: Yeah. I've had some rough ones. First off, I was
[19:41] Speaker 4: going to Davis Cup.
[19:47] Speaker 5: Uh, actually the year, the year, the year, uh, Marty
[19:49] Speaker 5: called me and I was sitting there, I'm drinking, I'm
[19:52] Speaker 5: drinking mimosas. I get a call from Marty fish. He's like,
[19:55] Speaker 5: he's like, bro, you want to go to Davis cup?
[19:57] Speaker 5: And I'm like, I look at that. I just got to,
[20:00] Speaker 5: I just got to my vacay. And I'm looking at
[20:02] Speaker 5: my girl. I'm like, yo, Marty asked me to go
[20:04] Speaker 5: to Davis cup. Like, can't be already turning down Davis cup.
[20:07] Speaker 5: I'm like, five mimosas in. I was like, yo, give
[20:09] Speaker 5: me a second. Let me like, hydrate.
[20:14] Speaker 4: Did you have.
[20:14] Speaker 1: To leave the vacation to come to Davis Cup?
[20:16] Speaker 4: Yeah, so I leave the vacation to go there. I
[20:19] Speaker 4: get there. I leave my.
[20:20] Speaker 5: Passport at the resort.
[20:24] Speaker 4: So I had to go. I had to go.
[20:28] Speaker 5: I had to go. Like, for some reason, we never
[20:31] Speaker 5: check in this early before a flight. I was like, yo,
[20:34] Speaker 5: we're out here in Cabo. Let's check in really early.
[20:36] Speaker 5: So then, So somebody came and brought it to me.
[20:40] Speaker 4: We go there. We had a connection.
[20:44] Speaker 5: I forget where we stopped. And we both are so tired.
[20:49] Speaker 5: It was still lit from the day before. We're sleeping
[20:53] Speaker 5: right next to the gate. There was no seat to
[20:54] Speaker 5: sit right in front of the gate. We're sleeping next
[20:55] Speaker 5: to the gate. We missed the.
[20:58] Speaker 4: Flight.
[21:04] Speaker 1: I can just picture you sleeping right there.
[21:07] Speaker 3: Wait, so then did you call Marty and be like, hey, man,
[21:11] Speaker 3: my bad, I missed the flight?
[21:13] Speaker 4: At that point, I had to lie, right? I mean,
[21:15] Speaker 4: I said, yeah, I was like, man, the flights keep
[21:16] Speaker 4: getting delayed. Like, it's crazy.
[21:19] Speaker 5: But obviously, you know, Michelle knows what's going on. So, like,
[21:22] Speaker 5: she's like, how are you not, like, she called me, like,
[21:23] Speaker 5: why are you not on the flight left? And I
[21:26] Speaker 5: was like, all right.
[21:29] Speaker 4: So then obviously they were, like, worried about playing me.
[21:31] Speaker 5: So then obviously then I've, I can't even remember the route,
[21:34] Speaker 5: but then I had to take, like, another extra flight.
[21:38] Speaker 5: I finally get there, and then we end up playing,
[21:41] Speaker 5: and I play that crazy match where I'm down, like,
[21:44] Speaker 5: two match points and end up winning, but it's crazy.
[21:47] Speaker 3: When you're flying around, this is, like, my favorite question.
[21:50] Speaker 3: Are you sticking to one airline and hoarding airline points,
[21:52] Speaker 3: or are you flying with whatever is getting you places
[21:55] Speaker 3: quickest and easiest?
[21:55] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[21:56] Speaker 4: I'm going to United, for sure. I love that. I
[21:58] Speaker 4: love that.
[21:59] Speaker 1: How many miles you got right now?
[22:00] Speaker 5: I'm global services, whatever that means, but I'm high.
[22:05] Speaker 4: You're big time, dude. Thank you for being global service.
[22:09] Speaker 4: That's nice.
[22:10] Speaker 1: How tidy is that? That's Sam on American Airlines.
[22:12] Speaker 2: He's a concierge key on American Airlines.
[22:18] Speaker 1: All right, foe. Wait, we've asked this. We've tossed around
[22:22] Speaker 1: this question. Do you think Roger Federer has ever collected
[22:24] Speaker 1: airline points?
[22:27] Speaker 4: Bro, I would love to ask him that.
[22:29] Speaker 1: I know, dude.
[22:30] Speaker 4: I would love to ask him that. Like, I was like, man,
[22:33] Speaker 4: do you ever, like, yo, man, can I get the upgrade?
[22:35] Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
[22:36] Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
[22:37] Speaker 2: Exactly.
[22:38] Speaker 3: We always joke, like, hey, Mirka, there's a good mileage
[22:40] Speaker 3: flight to Australian business right now.
[22:42] Speaker 1: Like, let's jump on it.
[22:46] Speaker 4: Oh, bro.
[22:47] Speaker 5: I would love, like, next time I see you, I
[22:49] Speaker 5: got to ask him. Like, not, like, obviously when you
[22:52] Speaker 5: came rocking, but early in your career, you.
[22:53] Speaker 1: Kind of like, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
[22:56] Speaker 3: Are you ever, like, searching around for, like, going to
[22:59] Speaker 3: a tournament and you see a good mileage flight and, like,
[23:02] Speaker 3: business or first and you get it?
[23:04] Speaker 4: Oh, no question. No question. No question. Even still now, yeah.
[23:08] Speaker 4: I mean, I'm doing that. Why not?
[23:10] Speaker 1: John never does it. He's always like, no, you pay
[23:12] Speaker 1: for it.
[23:12] Speaker 3: It's a write-off, which it is, but he acts like
[23:14] Speaker 3: it's free.
[23:14] Speaker 1: Not if you're, like... No, I'm not. Yeah, I'm a hoarder.
[23:19] Speaker 1: I hoard. I don't use my miles. It's horrible.
[23:23] Speaker 4: I've barely done it.
[23:24] Speaker 5: I barely done it, but if it makes sense.
[23:29] Speaker 4: I'm definitely using it.
[23:30] Speaker 5: I mean, I got a lot to play with, so
[23:31] Speaker 5: I'm like, why not?
[23:35] Speaker 1: Yeah, so Big Fo, I mean, it's the U.S.
[23:37] Speaker 4: Summer.
[23:38] Speaker 1: It's the best time of the year. We all thought
[23:40] Speaker 1: we loved it, you know, This is going to come
[23:42] Speaker 1: out during DC, obviously, but for you, how much fun
[23:45] Speaker 1: do you have playing in DC? And then, you know,
[23:47] Speaker 1: later in the summer at us open under the bright
[23:49] Speaker 1: lights is for you. I feel like some guys we
[23:52] Speaker 1: don't thrive so well, but for you, like when the
[23:54] Speaker 1: lights get bright, big foe is arrived.
[23:56] Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I mean, I, I mean, I love it, man.
[23:58] Speaker 4: I love it. I love playing in DC. Like it's
[24:02] Speaker 4: a different type of energy, man. I look in a crowd.
[24:04] Speaker 4: I know everyone.
[24:04] Speaker 5: I know all the, like, like the workers and everyone
[24:08] Speaker 5: at the tournament. It's just, It's crazy how I love it.
[24:10] Speaker 5: I just get super excited to play. People that normally
[24:13] Speaker 5: wouldn't come to me actually come.
[24:15] Speaker 1: For you, Francis, playing in New York under the bright lights,
[24:19] Speaker 1: two-time semifinalist at the Open, how much joy do you
[24:22] Speaker 1: get when you walk out to Ash Stadium? You've seen
[24:25] Speaker 1: it your whole life growing up. Now you get a
[24:27] Speaker 1: chance to play on it. You've been so successful out there.
[24:30] Speaker 1: What's that feeling like for you?
[24:32] Speaker 5: Winning is major for sure. I get goosebumps thinking about it.
[24:37] Speaker 5: I never really feel that activated playing. Um, I mean,
[24:41] Speaker 5: I guess I come out of the open and I
[24:44] Speaker 5: was like, I guess a lot of that energy. I mean,
[24:46] Speaker 5: cause it's, it's fans that don't even really know tennis.
[24:48] Speaker 5: They just want to scream and get drunk. And, um,
[24:51] Speaker 5: you know, and obviously all the who's, who's there is,
[24:53] Speaker 5: is great. I mean, I just, and I'm just playing
[24:56] Speaker 5: really well. And it's something I always wanted to win,
[24:58] Speaker 5: you know, growing up. I, uh, you know, I was
[25:01] Speaker 5: someone that I, you know, I want to, I want
[25:03] Speaker 5: to play on that court, you know, uh, on our
[25:06] Speaker 5: dark stadium.
[25:07] Speaker 4: And, And, you know, one day I'm going to hopefully
[25:09] Speaker 4: win the U.S. Open.
[25:10] Speaker 5: That's what gets me super activated to be out there, man.
[25:14] Speaker 4: It's a vibe. It's just awesome. It's a crazy vibe.
[25:17] Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, Sam and John, I think if they,
[25:19] Speaker 1: we all kind of, if we can win one, they
[25:21] Speaker 1: wanted to win Wimbledon. I wanted to win the U.S.
[25:22] Speaker 4: Open.
[25:23] Speaker 1: So it feels like U.S. Open's the one for you.
[25:25] Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. No question. I mean, winning Wimbledon, I mean,
[25:27] Speaker 4: winning anyone would be cool. But I mean, obviously.
[25:29] Speaker 1: But if you could, you know, if you had won
[25:31] Speaker 1: like U.S. Opens above the rest or no?
[25:33] Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't even, it's a different strategy.
[25:36] Speaker 4: Not even close to me.
[25:37] Speaker 5: Um, yeah, like I don't get the same excitement going deep,
[25:40] Speaker 5: you know, slammed and the open, like, you know, those
[25:43] Speaker 5: deep runs I've had, I was just like, Oh, it's
[25:45] Speaker 5: getting interesting.
[25:49] Speaker 3: When you had those deep runs, did you actually feel
[25:52] Speaker 3: like you could win the tournament at that time?
[25:55] Speaker 4: Oh, no doubt. For sure.
[25:56] Speaker 5: Um, especially the first, especially the first one, first one,
[25:59] Speaker 5: more than the second one. Cause obviously the second one, I,
[26:03] Speaker 5: I mean, That loss to Taylor hurt. It still does. Like,
[26:07] Speaker 5: we joke about it now, but that was brutal. Definitely
[26:10] Speaker 5: thought I was in a good position. But, I mean,
[26:13] Speaker 5: the first one, obviously, I know I lost to Carlos, but,
[26:15] Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I mean, at that point, you know,
[26:19] Speaker 5: to play for a final, like, I thought it was
[26:23] Speaker 5: kind of up for grabs, even though, you know, obviously
[26:26] Speaker 5: Kasper was going for.
[26:27] Speaker 4: Number one, but I still thought it was up for grabs.
[26:28] Speaker 5: That would have been his first time experience, I think,
[26:30] Speaker 5: for both of us.
[26:31] Speaker 2: That That Carlos semifinal is one of the best atmospheres
[26:34] Speaker 2: I've ever seen in my life.
[26:37] Speaker 4: I've never seen anything like that.
[26:41] Speaker 2: And now I'm talking about, like, I grew up watching
[26:43] Speaker 2: the tournament.
[26:44] Speaker 1: You know, Arthur S. Jamin's been around for a long,
[26:45] Speaker 1: long time. Nothing even close to that.
[26:47] Speaker 4: I've never seen anything like that. Yeah, you guys.
[26:50] Speaker 1: Lit that place on fire.
[26:52] Speaker 4: I mean, because it was just shot making.
[26:54] Speaker 5: Like, it was just energy. Two guys just battling that
[26:58] Speaker 5: really rock with each other.
[26:59] Speaker 1: There was no botting going on.
[27:01] Speaker 4: No, there's no botting. No, no, no. It's just pure tennis.
[27:03] Speaker 1: No one's botting out there.
[27:05] Speaker 4: Real good tennis, man.
[27:08] Speaker 1: I got one for you, Phil. You got a big U.S.
[27:11] Speaker 1: Open night match.
[27:12] Speaker 2: Take us through your routine in preparation for that night match.
[27:17] Speaker 2: Start the night before. What are you trying to do
[27:19] Speaker 2: to get yourself totally ready to compete the next night
[27:22] Speaker 2: on Arthur S.
[27:23] Speaker 4: Stadium?
[27:23] Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll probably be in my room chilling, ordering some
[27:26] Speaker 5: towels to the room, I love Tao.
[27:30] Speaker 1: You order it to the room, okay?
[27:33] Speaker 5: I stopped going out in New York after the last
[27:37] Speaker 5: few years because this has been a lot. People get
[27:42] Speaker 5: super excited and then obviously I don't want to get
[27:45] Speaker 5: distracted so I just kind of stay in. I order
[27:51] Speaker 5: Tao to the room, start watching matches. I like watching
[27:54] Speaker 5: Arthur Ashe matches. If it's a good match, see some
[27:56] Speaker 5: of the guys and then then after that, start watching
[28:00] Speaker 5: a Netflix show, I mean, try to disconnect, wake up
[28:03] Speaker 5: in the morning, do like a, eat some breakfast, do
[28:08] Speaker 5: a little gym session, and then drive on there about,
[28:12] Speaker 5: you know, five hours before, get there, you know, do
[28:16] Speaker 5: a little hit, I'm super loose before a match, like
[28:18] Speaker 5: I don't really like, I'm not really thinking about it
[28:20] Speaker 5: like that, start getting closer to it, I like to
[28:23] Speaker 5: take a nap before a night match, especially like, If
[28:26] Speaker 5: I play second, but even if I play first, take
[28:29] Speaker 5: a nap. If I'm playing at 7, take a nap
[28:31] Speaker 5: at 5, 5.30, wake up at 6, and then we're going. Like,
[28:38] Speaker 5: put some water in my face, and then we're going, bro.
[28:42] Speaker 3: Can you just fall asleep at 5.30 for 30 minutes?
[28:46] Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
[28:47] Speaker 1: That's amazing. That's a great skill. It's a great skill
[28:50] Speaker 1: to have. I don't have one.
[28:52] Speaker 4: I got to knock out before.
[28:53] Speaker 1: Finally, we got for you.
[28:54] Speaker 3: Have you ever seen on this, on our show, we
[28:56] Speaker 3: do this thing where AI Tinder, where we take guys
[29:00] Speaker 3: and we turn.
[29:00] Speaker 1: Them into women.
[29:01] Speaker 4: Yes.
[29:01] Speaker 1: The funny thing is, we got one for you right now.
[29:04] Speaker 3: So pretend you obviously write, you got, you got a
[29:07] Speaker 3: beautiful girlfriend and I am pretend you're single right now.
[29:11] Speaker 1: We have, we've got some players.
[29:14] Speaker 3: We've turned them into women. We want to know if
[29:16] Speaker 3: you're going to swipe right or left on him.
[29:17] Speaker 4: All right.
[29:17] Speaker 2: Here we go.
[29:18] Speaker 4: Here we go.
[29:18] Speaker 2: Here we go.
[29:18] Speaker 1: We haven't seen him yet either. We haven't seen him either.
[29:21] Speaker 1: So we're going in blind too.
[29:22] Speaker 4: All right. Let me see this.
[29:25] Speaker 1: Number one.
[29:28] Speaker 4: Who is that? Who is.
[29:31] Speaker 1: That? A date. It doesn't matter. You're going right or left.
[29:34] Speaker 4: Nothing major.
[29:37] Speaker 1: Is that right? That's a no. Is that Mickelson?
[29:43] Speaker 4: Is that Mickelson?
[29:44] Speaker 1: No. Brooksby. He looks like a nice elementary school teacher.
[29:51] Speaker 4: Yeah, a little substitute.
[29:53] Speaker 1: Jensen's looking pretty good, actually. He looks Amish.
[29:56] Speaker 2: What?
[29:59] Speaker 1: All right, Brooksby. So that's a no, then, on Brooksby?
[30:07] Speaker 4: No, go ahead. No, I'm going to say no. Brooksby's wholesome.
[30:11] Speaker 4: That sentence sounded hilarious, bro.
[30:13] Speaker 1: All right, let's see who we got next.
[30:18] Speaker 4: B-Knock! B-Knock. Oh, that's B-Knock. That's B-Knock. Oh, my God, dude.
[30:25] Speaker 1: Are they all wearing the same shirt today or what? Yeah,
[30:27] Speaker 1: they are. It looks like it.
[30:28] Speaker 5: I got nothing but love for B-Knock, but I'm good, brother.
[30:31] Speaker 4: Nothing but love.
[30:41] Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Oh, so good. Let's go next. We
[30:45] Speaker 1: got four more. How about the hair? They did him
[30:51] Speaker 1: dirty with the hair.
[30:51] Speaker 5: That's still strong.
[30:54] Speaker 4: The features are strong.
[30:57] Speaker 1: Francis is not getting any good love today. It's the
[31:01] Speaker 1: same shirt again.
[31:03] Speaker 4: Maybe he lets me borrow the backhand. I don't know.
[31:12] Speaker 4: I can't do it, man. They did you wrong, brother.
[31:15] Speaker 4: They did you wrong.
[31:17] Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. 0 for 3 here. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I mean.
[31:24] Speaker 1: We could work with this.
[31:26] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[31:26] Speaker 4: I'm going to work with Lerner, man. I'm going to
[31:28] Speaker 4: work with Lerner.
[31:28] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[31:29] Speaker 4: I'm going to work with him, bro. I'm with you. Yeah.
[31:32] Speaker 4: I'm going to work with Lerner, man. I got to
[31:36] Speaker 4: show Lerner some love. You look so sweet there, too. Like,
[31:38] Speaker 4: so nice. Yeah, like innocent. Yeah, exactly. This is so funny, man.
[31:44] Speaker 4: This is so funny. My God.
[31:47] Speaker 1: All right. Let's see what we got next. Oh, my gosh.
[31:51] Speaker 4: Oh, my gosh. Dude.
[31:53] Speaker 1: There's no way.
[31:54] Speaker 4: There's no way.
[31:56] Speaker 1: Ethan is just catching strays upon strays on this show. Yeah,
[32:03] Speaker 1: poor Ethan. This has been a brutal week for Ethan.
[32:08] Speaker 4: Back to the future, baby.
[32:10] Speaker 2: We lit Ethan up on our show last week, just
[32:13] Speaker 2: out of nowhere. And now we're lighting him up again.
[32:16] Speaker 4: I mean, this is cool. Aunt Sally. Nah, bro.
[32:20] Speaker 1: I'm taking a photo of that.
[32:22] Speaker 4: Golly, Ethan.
[32:25] Speaker 5: Golly.
[32:28] Speaker 4: I mean, maybe Garber still would. I don't know.
[32:30] Speaker 1: Maybe Garber. Holy Toledo.
[32:32] Speaker 4: Oh!
[32:38] Speaker 5: Oh, man.
[32:40] Speaker 4: Wait, who is that? Shut the f * * * up.
[32:41] Speaker 4: That's not me.
[32:43] Speaker 1: That is you. It's not the same grill, though. It's
[32:46] Speaker 1: not the same grill. You know what I mean?
[32:49] Speaker 4: You gotta have the gap tooth, though.
[32:51] Speaker 1: You gotta have the Michael Strahan going on. I didn't
[32:54] Speaker 1: know that was you either. I didn't either because we.
[32:59] Speaker 1: We did you one of the other ones and it
[33:00] Speaker 1: was a different photo. We all swiped right on you
[33:03] Speaker 1: because we knew that you'd have a fun night. Lots
[33:06] Speaker 1: of laughs.
[33:07] Speaker 7: We have lots of laughs. You're definitely doing community service
[33:11] Speaker 7: with me. That's the ugly ass moment.
[33:18] Speaker 1: Oh man, that was... Oh yeah, look, there's the old
[33:20] Speaker 1: school photo. That was the OG photo.
[33:23] Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm cool.
[33:24] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[33:25] Speaker 4: Yeah. And we have three more.
[33:30] Speaker 1: There we go.
[33:32] Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what?
[33:34] Speaker 1: Not bad. It's not bad. I'll be honest.
[33:38] Speaker 4: It's not terrible, bro. It's not.
[33:40] Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. Are you also seven feet tall, though?
[33:44] Speaker 1: I'm towering over you. That's a good question. I'm towering
[33:46] Speaker 1: over you. So it's probably a swipe left, but.
[33:50] Speaker 1: I'm happy with that.
[33:52] Speaker 4: I'm not that mad at that.
[33:53] Speaker 1: Yeah, I look pretty sweet.
[33:56] Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, yeah. Good country girl. Yeah. I'm okay
[34:04] Speaker 4: with it.
[34:04] Speaker 1: All right, go next.
[34:07] Speaker 4: Oh. Just get rid of it. Just get rid of it.
[34:12] Speaker 4: Get rid of it. It's bad, huh?
[34:13] Speaker 1: With the feel of tea on.
[34:14] Speaker 4: With the feel of tea.
[34:15] Speaker 1: I forgot about this one.
[34:16] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[34:16] Speaker 1: The feel of tea. Mine's no better, dude. With different hair, maybe, right?
[34:21] Speaker 1: Maybe if I had different hair. What's up with the
[34:23] Speaker 1: comb over there? I don't know. What's up with the
[34:27] Speaker 1: comb over there?
[34:27] Speaker 2: You know, Sam's taking Nutrafol right now, so maybe his
[34:31] Speaker 2: hair grew in.
[34:31] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[34:32] Speaker 1: Quite a bit.
[34:36] Speaker 6: All right.
[34:36] Speaker 1: One final one. Stevie's is rough. Stevie's is rough. I
[34:40] Speaker 1: might vomit. That's how bad it is. He's in the
[34:42] Speaker 1: Yannick shirt.
[34:43] Speaker 5: Get ready.
[34:43] Speaker 2: Get ready, foe.
[34:45] Speaker 1: So bad. Come on.
[34:46] Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
[34:49] Speaker 1: Oh, my goodness. You know what he looks like? I
[34:51] Speaker 1: just figured out. He's Rosie O'Donnell right there.
[34:53] Speaker 4: Oh, my God. Yes. He looks exactly like Rosie O'Donnell.
[34:57] Speaker 4: That is so good.
[35:01] Speaker 1: I'm going to be sick.
[35:02] Speaker 4: That's brutal, man. Yannick's had to bless you, but that's brutal, man.
[35:06] Speaker 4: It's tough.
[35:07] Speaker 3: All right, Francis. We'll let you go. Thanks for coming on, man.
[35:11] Speaker 3: That was so much fun.
[35:13] Speaker 1: Long overdue.
[35:14] Speaker 4: You guys are killing it, man.
[35:16] Speaker 5: Happy for y'all, what y'all doing, man. This is funny
[35:18] Speaker 5: as hell. You guys are doing some great stuff. We'll
[35:20] Speaker 5: see you in Cincy.
[35:21] Speaker 4: We'll be cheering on you this summer. Nothing major. Moving
[35:23] Speaker 4: to Cincy? All right.
[35:25] Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
[35:25] Speaker 1: We'll be there. We'll have a presence. We'll have a
[35:27] Speaker 1: presence on site. We will have a presence, yeah.
[35:30] Speaker 4: We'll see you guys soon, man. Be easy. Take care, guys.
[35:32] Speaker 1: All right, folks. All right, thanks.
[35:34] Speaker 4: All right, everyone.
[35:34] Speaker 1: That was it. What an awesome interview. I don't think
[35:37] Speaker 1: the four of us have stopped laughing since that interview.
[35:39] Speaker 1: Francis is just legendary. How do you explain Francis? Just
[35:43] Speaker 1: an electric personality. He's so fun to be around, Sam.
[35:46] Speaker 1: He's contagious.
[35:47] Speaker 3: His like his smile and his aura and his attitude.
[35:53] Speaker 3: It's obvious why people love him all over the world.
[35:55] Speaker 1: People just gravitate to him. I mean, it's just he's
[35:58] Speaker 1: I hope he has just an absolute massive summer because
[36:01] Speaker 1: we'd love to see him back late in the U.S.
[36:03] Speaker 1: Open later this summer under those bright lights at Ash. John,
[36:06] Speaker 1: you think he's got a big summer ahead of him?
[36:08] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[36:08] Speaker 2: I mean, we got we got Francis and he did
[36:11] Speaker 2: that interview from from the DMV. So he's been there
[36:14] Speaker 2: for a bit, getting ready since Tommy's wedding.
[36:18] Speaker 1: But thanks, Francis.
[36:19] Speaker 2: It seemed like that was long overdue for nothing.
[36:22] Speaker 1: Long overdue, but I'm excited we got him for the
[36:24] Speaker 1: 200th episode. It seems like a good milestone for us.
[36:28] Speaker 1: But we know with Francis, he's got the big Lulu deal.
[36:30] Speaker 1: He's not worried about getting his shoes from Tennis Warehouse,
[36:33] Speaker 1: but we are. And the summer is here and we
[36:35] Speaker 1: need it. We need more shoes. Thanks to our partners
[36:38] Speaker 1: at Tennis Warehouse.
[36:38] Speaker 2: Yes, we've talked about the shoes. We talked about it
[36:41] Speaker 2: on Monday's episode. You're training for a big event, or
[36:44] Speaker 2: in our case, a big exhibition in Memphis. You realize
[36:47] Speaker 2: your shoes or your gear is just not up to date. Well, luckily,
[36:50] Speaker 2: that's where Tennis Warehouse comes into play. They have everything
[36:53] Speaker 2: you need to get you up to date and get
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[36:56] Speaker 1: It's literally everything.
[36:57] Speaker 3: It's not just the shoes and the shirts and the rackets.
[36:59] Speaker 3: It's ankle braces, vibration dampeners. They probably got ball machines there.
[37:05] Speaker 3: It's all those little extra things. They've got everything tennis
[37:08] Speaker 3: related that tennis warehouse.
[37:09] Speaker 1: They got the real players using it every day. It's
[37:11] Speaker 1: tennis warehouse. They focus on the tennis and they have
[37:14] Speaker 1: a top tier program. So you can try everything before
[37:17] Speaker 1: you buy it. Yeah.
[37:18] Speaker 2: And they're like, they're gear heads. So they have the
[37:20] Speaker 2: most knowledge, knowledgeable customer service. When you call, they always
[37:23] Speaker 2: have the right answer for you. Um, absolutely everything at
[37:27] Speaker 2: their disposal, excuse me, to get it right for you.
[37:31] Speaker 3: And I said this Monday, if you're listening to this
[37:32] Speaker 3: right now, you rich, right? We know you're rich.
[37:35] Speaker 1: Free shipping over 50 bucks, but everything you're getting is
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[37:55] Speaker 1: We're going to get Sam up to the warehouse. We are.
[37:58] Speaker 1: One of these days.
[38:00] Speaker 2: It's a Charlie's hometown.
[38:02] Speaker 1: Exactly. We're going to get up there. S-L-O-S-A-B-I-S-P-O.
[38:05] Speaker 4: Slow. S-L-O-S-A-B-I-S-P-O. All right.
[38:12] Speaker 1: Well, we have done this for the grass and the clay.
[38:15] Speaker 1: A little buy and sell. We're each going to pick
[38:16] Speaker 1: one player that we are going to buy for the
[38:19] Speaker 1: summer swing here on the hard courts and sell. So
[38:22] Speaker 1: with that, John, who are we buying and who are
[38:25] Speaker 1: we selling during the U.S. summer swing? Can I start
[38:28] Speaker 1: with my sell?
[38:29] Speaker 4: Yes.
[38:29] Speaker 1: This is why I don't like it. I just feel
[38:31] Speaker 1: like I'm just throwing a dart. I'm going to sell Minsheek.
[38:34] Speaker 4: Okay.
[38:34] Speaker 1: It's a weird one, right? I'm selling it. I just,
[38:39] Speaker 1: I feel like you can go walk about a little bit.
[38:41] Speaker 1: Here and there.
[38:44] Speaker 2: Anyways, I'm going to sell him, and I will buy Hodar.
[38:49] Speaker 1: I think he's going to have a big one. Because
[38:52] Speaker 1: he's a European.
[38:53] Speaker 2: He played college tennis. He likes America, right? So I
[38:56] Speaker 2: think he's going to play well. His game is suited
[39:00] Speaker 2: for all surfaces.
[39:02] Speaker 1: Give me Hodar.
[39:04] Speaker 2: Have a big run in one of these Masters events
[39:07] Speaker 2: and a quarterfinal US Open.
[39:09] Speaker 1: Sam, who do we got? I like those. I'm going
[39:11] Speaker 1: to sell Kaboli.
[39:12] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[39:13] Speaker 1: Good sell. I hope Kaboli proves me wrong. I really hope. Yeah, Kaboli.
[39:18] Speaker 4: I don't know.
[39:18] Speaker 3: I don't know if he's going to back up the
[39:20] Speaker 3: massive Roland Garros. And then he backed.
[39:23] Speaker 1: It up with a great Wimbledon, too. And buying Tsitsipas. Oh, wow.
[39:28] Speaker 3: You thought I was gonna go Medvedev I think and
[39:30] Speaker 3: by buying Tsitsipas like I don't think he's gonna semi
[39:33] Speaker 3: or final a master series or a major but I
[39:35] Speaker 3: think he's just gonna win a bunch of matches this
[39:38] Speaker 3: summer and get the ranking back to like in the
[39:40] Speaker 3: mid 30s Aussie Open will he be seated yes okay
[39:44] Speaker 3: I think it's you know like a quarter in DC
[39:46] Speaker 3: and then a A third-round Toronto and maybe a third-round Cincy,
[39:50] Speaker 3: and then he pops a fourth round of the Open.
[39:52] Speaker 1: Those are kind of what I'm looking at for him. Yeah,
[39:55] Speaker 1: I can see that. I can see that. I am
[39:56] Speaker 1: going to buy Arthur Feese. I just refuse to quit
[40:01] Speaker 1: on him. I think he's electric. I think he's going
[40:03] Speaker 1: to have a massive summer. And then I am going
[40:05] Speaker 1: to sell... Oh, where did he go? I'm going to
[40:08] Speaker 1: sell Yuri Lahechka. Just don't... I don't know. I don't
[40:12] Speaker 1: know why. I love that guy. Why do you hate Lahechka?
[40:14] Speaker 4: I just got.
[40:15] Speaker 1: I don't hate him. I don't hate him. I just
[40:18] Speaker 1: think he's a little injury prone.
[40:22] Speaker 4: I don't know.
[40:22] Speaker 1: The U.S. summer is hot.
[40:24] Speaker 4: I don't know.
[40:25] Speaker 1: I've got no reason to do it again. He's one
[40:26] Speaker 1: of the best ball strikers on tour. Is he not?
[40:28] Speaker 1: The sound when it comes off his racket. No doubt.
[40:33] Speaker 1: But we probably got all those wrong. Well, hopefully we
[40:35] Speaker 1: got all the sells wrong. Hopefully we got all the
[40:37] Speaker 1: buys right for the players' sake.
[40:39] Speaker 4: Exactly.
[40:40] Speaker 1: But yeah, for our 200th episode, we're going to hit...
[40:43] Speaker 1: Some fan questions before we get into the reverse silly
[40:47] Speaker 1: game that John now has for Sam this week. But
[40:49] Speaker 1: first we're going to hit some fan questions. And the
[40:51] Speaker 1: first one is from Caleb in Tennessee. What is your guys'
[40:54] Speaker 1: personal highlight from the 200 episodes you have done?
[40:57] Speaker 4: Sam?
[40:58] Speaker 1: It's a good one.
[40:59] Speaker 3: You know, it's honestly probably back to like, I want
[41:02] Speaker 3: to say this is in like the first 15 episodes
[41:04] Speaker 3: we did. The whole debate on whether or not if
[41:08] Speaker 3: I would fight a bobcat who would come out alive.
[41:10] Speaker 1: This is still raging on, yeah. We talked about this
[41:12] Speaker 1: in Memphis.
[41:13] Speaker 3: I still stand by like if I was going to
[41:14] Speaker 3: battle a bobcat in a room, I would be the
[41:16] Speaker 3: one to come out alive or you guys, not necessarily me.
[41:18] Speaker 3: Just a grown athletic man would beat a bobcat in
[41:21] Speaker 3: a head-to-head battle. That is honestly like my favorite moment.
[41:26] Speaker 1: What about a police attack dog? No way.
[41:28] Speaker 4: No way.
[41:29] Speaker 7: Okay.
[41:29] Speaker 4: All right.
[41:29] Speaker 5: All right.
[41:30] Speaker 1: That's like twice the size of a bobcat. Not really.
[41:32] Speaker 2: It could be one of those Belgian Malamutes. They're not
[41:34] Speaker 2: like that much bigger. They're like 50 pounds.
[41:37] Speaker 1: What about one of those like beagle bomb sniffing dogs?
[41:41] Speaker 1: A bobcat's 25 pounds. You're still losing to the bobcat.
[41:44] Speaker 3: I like the.
[41:48] Speaker 1: Richard Gasquet interview. It just– the whole– the commotion of
[41:52] Speaker 1: it all.
[41:53] Speaker 2: Yeah, like of course– we make fun of European internet
[41:56] Speaker 2: and of course his internet didn't work over there.
[41:59] Speaker 1: For three days. Exactly. It was fun. The one that
[42:03] Speaker 1: always like gets me to laugh is when Sam couldn't
[42:05] Speaker 1: pronounce a name. Hi, my name is and he went Hemi-Name. Oh,
[42:09] Speaker 1: that was good. Well, he was– I think that was
[42:11] Speaker 1: early summer. He was at the US Open. By the way,
[42:13] Speaker 1: Brock says a grown man beats a bobcat in a fight. Yeah,
[42:16] Speaker 1: but they're assuming you're a grown man. You're not. You're
[42:20] Speaker 1: just like a– It's pure size. It's pure.
[42:23] Speaker 2: I liked, um, letting everyone in on, um, Wienergate.
[42:30] Speaker 1: From Wienergate was good.
[42:31] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[42:31] Speaker 1: Yeah. That was, that was a great story. I mean,
[42:35] Speaker 1: we had to sit on that for how long?
[42:37] Speaker 5: Like, yeah.
[42:38] Speaker 2: I mean, like, well, it just kind of came up
[42:40] Speaker 2: because someone asked a question and, you know, we've known
[42:43] Speaker 2: it for 20 or 16 years now, or it was like,
[42:47] Speaker 2: it's been 16 years or something like that.
[42:49] Speaker 1: But anyways, um, That was good stuff. We have plenty
[42:52] Speaker 1: more good moments coming. And this one is from Shannon
[42:54] Speaker 1: in Minnesota. How much do you guys look forward to
[42:57] Speaker 1: the tour being back in the States? Did it give
[42:59] Speaker 1: you an air of confidence? And was there anything that
[43:01] Speaker 1: the non-American players would do that bothered you? See, I
[43:04] Speaker 1: absolutely loved it. Like I, I would tailor my schedule.
[43:08] Speaker 2: Maybe, maybe some people thought this was not the smartest decision,
[43:12] Speaker 2: but after Roland Garros, I'd always come back. I didn't,
[43:15] Speaker 2: especially towards the end of my career, I didn't play
[43:16] Speaker 2: grass court warmups because I just couldn't move around. on
[43:20] Speaker 2: any of those courts. And so I just felt always
[43:22] Speaker 2: super uncomfortable. I would just play Wimbledon. Um, cause I
[43:27] Speaker 2: wanted to be fresh for the summer, um, hard court swing,
[43:32] Speaker 2: which was my best time of the year. Um, so yeah,
[43:37] Speaker 2: it did, you know, did give me some confidence. I,
[43:40] Speaker 2: the guys that like the, especially the Europeans, like, Didn't
[43:44] Speaker 2: do anything annoying, but they would complain about the AC
[43:47] Speaker 2: a lot. They'd come in from a practice in Cincinnati.
[43:51] Speaker 2: It's hot as crap. They'd walk in the locker room,
[43:53] Speaker 2: and they'd say, the locker room's too cold. Dude, it's
[43:55] Speaker 2: 100 degrees out in Cincinnati. Don't you kind of want
[43:58] Speaker 2: a cooler locker room?
[44:00] Speaker 4: Apparently not.
[44:01] Speaker 1: Yeah, 100%. Sam, any thoughts? I love playing in the U.S.
[44:05] Speaker 1: just like we all did. I would play a ton.
[44:06] Speaker 1: There was years where I would play Newport, L.A., D.C., Indy, Toronto. Cincy,
[44:13] Speaker 1: New Haven, U.S.
[44:14] Speaker 4: Open.
[44:16] Speaker 3: Everyone loves playing at home. If you're European, you love
[44:20] Speaker 3: playing in your home country.
[44:22] Speaker 4: Same here. It was the best.
[44:24] Speaker 3: You always look forward to toward the end of that
[44:26] Speaker 3: grass court swing. You're like, oh, the next three months
[44:29] Speaker 3: is great.
[44:30] Speaker 1: We pretty much have the same feeling the Europeans have
[44:32] Speaker 1: after Miami when they get to go back to Europe
[44:34] Speaker 1: for eight weeks through Wimbledon. It's the exact same. Nothing
[44:38] Speaker 1: better than playing in the States. We've got a last
[44:41] Speaker 1: question here from Fly Zipper in Canada. A fan question
[44:44] Speaker 1: from one tall guy to another. What do John and
[44:47] Speaker 1: Sam do for their racket grip size? It seems that
[44:49] Speaker 1: most manufacturers are only making things up to four and
[44:51] Speaker 1: a half these days. You guys must have access to
[44:54] Speaker 1: larger options.
[44:55] Speaker 4: Yes, you do.
[44:55] Speaker 1: Well, Sam was four and a half anyways. No, I
[44:57] Speaker 1: played four and three eights. Yeah, Sam played a small grip.
[45:00] Speaker 3: I was four and a half and then it hurt
[45:02] Speaker 3: my elbow. And then John, your brother, Jordan Isner, told
[45:04] Speaker 3: me to go down to four and three eights. And
[45:06] Speaker 3: I did it and I never had an elbow injury
[45:08] Speaker 3: after that.
[45:09] Speaker 4: No way.
[45:09] Speaker 1: Yep, Jordan Isner. And you took his advice? I took
[45:12] Speaker 1: his advice and it worked. It's tough.
[45:15] Speaker 3: Like if you use the bigger grip you have, I
[45:17] Speaker 3: feel like you lose feel with your hands, you know?
[45:20] Speaker 1: It depends.
[45:21] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[45:21] Speaker 2: I get what you're saying, but like when you have
[45:24] Speaker 2: mitts like this, right? Like I was a 5.8, 4
[45:26] Speaker 2: and 5.8s, and maybe manufacturers have changed, but prints, which
[45:32] Speaker 2: was my racket of choice, like they always, my grip
[45:35] Speaker 2: was not custom made. The biggest they had in their
[45:37] Speaker 2: shop was always 4 and 5.8s, so I didn't have
[45:39] Speaker 2: to get anything custom. So I think 4 and 5.8s
[45:42] Speaker 2: for me probably felt like a 4.5 for you, Sam.
[45:45] Speaker 1: I know you went down to a 3.8s. Stevie, were
[45:47] Speaker 1: you a 3.8s? I was a three eights, yeah.
[45:50] Speaker 2: Yeah, I was a five eights. Four and a half,
[45:54] Speaker 2: just a little too small for my big mitts.
[45:57] Speaker 1: It is easy. All pros had guys that custom your rackets.
[46:00] Speaker 3: If you wanted a grip size that's a seven, I
[46:02] Speaker 3: don't even know that's a size, you could have got
[46:04] Speaker 3: it done.
[46:04] Speaker 1: Karlovic had a special.
[46:06] Speaker 2: He had a grip bigger than mine that priority one
[46:10] Speaker 2: would do for him. But yeah, the grip sizes are,
[46:14] Speaker 2: most players are three eights or a half.
[46:16] Speaker 1: Not many people are five eights. Yeah.
[46:18] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[46:18] Speaker 1: I mean, it's, I mean, like Sam mentioned, you know, the,
[46:20] Speaker 1: the smaller you go with grip, I feel like the
[46:21] Speaker 1: more you can use like your hand on the racket.
[46:23] Speaker 1: So that's probably, I mean, you can kind of use,
[46:25] Speaker 1: you can kind of work the ball around the bigger
[46:27] Speaker 1: grip you go. It's kind of feels like more of
[46:28] Speaker 1: a hammer. I couldn't use a five eights. It looks,
[46:30] Speaker 1: sounds crazy.
[46:31] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[46:32] Speaker 1: But your hand's not even a half. Like I couldn't use,
[46:34] Speaker 1: like it didn't feel right. Did Rafa use something even
[46:36] Speaker 1: smaller than a quarter?
[46:38] Speaker 2: And so Rafa was like, I think, you know, back
[46:42] Speaker 2: in the day, like Sampras had a five eights, right?
[46:44] Speaker 1: Like the old school guys, like big grips.
[46:47] Speaker 2: A hammer, the Rafa comes along and he's got the,
[46:51] Speaker 2: what do you, what was that quarter?
[46:53] Speaker 1: Four and a quarter.
[46:53] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[46:54] Speaker 2: Um, you know, with like a light, maybe a lighter
[46:57] Speaker 2: racket with the small grip and just got so much
[47:00] Speaker 2: action on everything.
[47:01] Speaker 5: Yeah.
[47:02] Speaker 1: So it's, uh, yeah, but basically to finish that question off,
[47:04] Speaker 1: we can, as pros, you can kind of get whatever
[47:07] Speaker 1: you want. So we can, we can find a way,
[47:09] Speaker 1: but the big guys, they need not Sam though. Thanks
[47:12] Speaker 1: to Jordan Isner, tennis knowledge, Jordan Isner. What do you
[47:16] Speaker 1: got going on there? Abby asked me to take the
[47:18] Speaker 1: trash cans out.
[47:19] Speaker 3: It's Trash Dater House, and Abby asked me to take
[47:21] Speaker 3: the trash cans out last night, and I forgot, and
[47:22] Speaker 3: I can see her doing it now.
[47:24] Speaker 1: And I'm just like, I don't want to leave this room.
[47:28] Speaker 1: I know I'm going to get it earful. Do you
[47:29] Speaker 1: have a long driveway?
[47:30] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[47:32] Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. That is so funny.
[47:35] Speaker 3: No lattes today, Sam. You're getting after that. It's like
[47:39] Speaker 3: two recycles and a garbage, and then like two land.
[47:42] Speaker 3: I could see your face just. She's not happy right now.
[47:45] Speaker 4: No.
[47:46] Speaker 1: That's pretty good. That's pretty good. Is Ford old enough
[47:49] Speaker 1: to do the trash yet? No, I picked up the
[47:51] Speaker 1: dog poop yesterday, so you can do this. Okay, okay.
[47:53] Speaker 1: Trash cans just get too heavy. Yeah, they do. You
[47:55] Speaker 1: can't have that. Then it falls on them. That looks
[47:57] Speaker 1: like bad parenting.
[47:58] Speaker 4: Yeah, it does.
[47:59] Speaker 1: All right, well, let's move on. Last week, Sam had
[48:03] Speaker 1: an idea. He tried to stump John on pop culture people.
[48:06] Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, John got four out of ten, correct?
[48:09] Speaker 1: Four out of ten. Or less?
[48:10] Speaker 2: Four out of ten.
[48:11] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[48:11] Speaker 1: Four out of 10. So now we flipped it. John
[48:14] Speaker 1: would love to, I'm going to give it to John,
[48:16] Speaker 1: but he's got 10 or I think it's 11 athletes. No,
[48:19] Speaker 1: I have 10.
[48:20] Speaker 2: Tom added one, which I think you're going to know.
[48:23] Speaker 1: Correct. So that's true. If you do know it, I'm
[48:25] Speaker 1: not going to give you credit for it because it's
[48:26] Speaker 1: all from Tom. In my opinion, I think Sam gets
[48:31] Speaker 1: probably the same number. He's going to know a couple, obviously,
[48:34] Speaker 1: like you did, but he's not going to know the name.
[48:36] Speaker 1: Two hockey guys was the rule as well. Two hockey guys.
[48:41] Speaker 1: You'll see. I kind of mix it. Two hockey, two football,
[48:45] Speaker 1: two tennis.
[48:46] Speaker 4: Oh, no.
[48:46] Speaker 1: Sam?
[48:48] Speaker 4: Okay.
[48:49] Speaker 1: Oh, no.
[48:51] Speaker 4: Anyways.
[48:52] Speaker 1: Well, let's get into it. I'm very excited for this.
[48:54] Speaker 2: And we got to figure out something we can quiz
[48:56] Speaker 2: Stevie on, but he seems to be just very well-rounded.
[48:58] Speaker 1: He's so versatile.
[48:59] Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. All right, here we go.
[49:01] Speaker 1: That's what they say. Let's get this going. Number one. Okay,
[49:05] Speaker 1: I'm going to go Patrick Kane. No, that one shouldn't
[49:09] Speaker 1: even count. No, that's a good picture of him, dude.
[49:12] Speaker 1: You would know who that is. You do know who
[49:14] Speaker 1: that is.
[49:14] Speaker 4: It is.
[49:15] Speaker 1: I would know it.
[49:15] Speaker 4: It's Leon Dreisaitl.
[49:16] Speaker 1: Leon Dreisaitl.
[49:18] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[49:19] Speaker 1: Like the four. best hockey player in the world. Seriously,
[49:21] Speaker 1: hold on. To the suits.
[49:22] Speaker 2: You can't just go on Google and find a picture
[49:24] Speaker 2: of him skating in his Edmonton Oilers uniform and use
[49:26] Speaker 2: it on our podcast?
[49:27] Speaker 1: Is the NHL going to come after us?
[49:29] Speaker 4: Yeah, copy.
[49:30] Speaker 1: They're saying we can't. That's insane.
[49:32] Speaker 3: The suits say we can't do that. Suits love copyright.
[49:35] Speaker 3: It's like their favorite word.
[49:36] Speaker 1: There's no way. I don't buy that, guys.
[49:38] Speaker 3: Also, side note, I know we announced the volume deal
[49:41] Speaker 3: last week. A lot of people worried the suits that
[49:43] Speaker 3: they're not going to be involved anymore.
[49:45] Speaker 1: They're still here. Don't worry. Suits are with us till
[49:47] Speaker 1: the end.
[49:48] Speaker 2: But what is stopping the suits from actually doing that?
[49:51] Speaker 2: They're scared that post our show, the NHL is going
[49:54] Speaker 2: to sue us into oblivion and If we don't have
[49:57] Speaker 2: image rights, then no one has image rights.
[49:59] Speaker 1: I don't... All right, 0 for 1. All right, let's
[50:00] Speaker 1: move on. Because, Sam, that's not fair to you. I
[50:03] Speaker 1: wasn't going to get that anyway, but let's keep going. Yeah,
[50:05] Speaker 1: he wasn't going to get that anyways. He wasn't. If
[50:07] Speaker 1: they're not in their uniforms, he's dead. Okay, here we go.
[50:09] Speaker 1: The hell?
[50:10] Speaker 4: Wait, wait. I know who that is. Hold on.
[50:15] Speaker 1: That's Hung Tuck Lee. No, no, no, no.
[50:18] Speaker 5: Chung.
[50:19] Speaker 1: It's Chung.
[50:20] Speaker 4: Huyen Chung. Chung.
[50:21] Speaker 3: It's the dude that made the semi-Australian Open like eight
[50:24] Speaker 3: years ago and he hurt his foot.
[50:26] Speaker 1: Chung.
[50:27] Speaker 4: Chung.
[50:27] Speaker 1: That's my final answer. But you said Hung Taek Lee.
[50:30] Speaker 4: Oh my God.
[50:31] Speaker 1: Hung Taek Lee. I got that right. Hung Taek Lee.
[50:34] Speaker 1: What a blast from the past. That guy was nasty.
[50:37] Speaker 1: He was in good shape. Yeah, he was in really
[50:38] Speaker 1: good shape. So 0.5. So you can't use a tennis
[50:44] Speaker 1: photo of Hung Chung? I think the point was to
[50:48] Speaker 1: not use that one as a tennis photo. That is crazy.
[50:51] Speaker 1: The world's gone mad. That's unbelievable. If some podcast used
[50:56] Speaker 1: a photo of you, Sam, from Wimbledon, were you going
[50:58] Speaker 1: to go after them? Oh, I'm going to sue them
[51:00] Speaker 1: now that I know that that's a thing. It's ridiculous.
[51:02] Speaker 4: Okay, sorry, suits.
[51:04] Speaker 1: Everyone out there, just so everyone knows, everyone can use
[51:07] Speaker 1: our stuff.
[51:07] Speaker 4: From this show as openly, as freely as they want.
[51:09] Speaker 1: Yeah, seriously.
[51:10] Speaker 4: All right, here we go.
[51:11] Speaker 1: All right. He's not going to know. Is that a Winklevoss?
[51:15] Speaker 4: I mean, fuck.
[51:16] Speaker 1: It's Michael Stieck. It's Michael Stieck. Oh, Michael Stieg from–
[51:23] Speaker 1: it's a young Michael Stieg.
[51:24] Speaker 5: All right.
[51:24] Speaker 2: Honestly, I think I would have struggled with that one.
[51:28] Speaker 2: When I'm thinking Michael Stieg, I'm thinking him in tennis gear.
[51:30] Speaker 2: I'm blaming the suits.
[51:32] Speaker 1: The hell? How hard is this game? I don't even–
[51:37] Speaker 1: Place for the Braves? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[51:40] Speaker 2: Of course.
[51:41] Speaker 4: Acuna Jr.
[51:42] Speaker 1: Yeah, Acuna Jr.
[51:43] Speaker 4: All right.
[51:43] Speaker 1: I didn't think you'd get that one.
[51:46] Speaker 4: Cedric Haleen. Good one. There you go.
[51:48] Speaker 1: Okay, touche. See, he's in, like, tennis gear somewhat. You know?
[51:53] Speaker 1: He's just in, like, a lacrosse polo. Could be tennis gear.
[51:56] Speaker 4: There we go.
[51:56] Speaker 1: That's a good one.
[51:57] Speaker 4: Matt LaFleur. Yeah.
[51:59] Speaker 1: He's going to know that one for sure.
[52:00] Speaker 4: Coach of the Packers. Okay. Okay. Touche.
[52:07] Speaker 1: I don't know that one.
[52:07] Speaker 2: If we were to put him in a Cincinnati Bengals uniform,
[52:10] Speaker 2: would you get it?
[52:11] Speaker 1: No, because not Joe Burrow.
[52:14] Speaker 4: Jamar Chase.
[52:15] Speaker 1: Who's his stud wide receiver? Oh, it's Jamar Chase? Yeah,
[52:17] Speaker 1: Jamar Chase. Dang it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wouldn't have
[52:19] Speaker 1: known that.
[52:20] Speaker 4: Even in the uniform. Okay.
[52:23] Speaker 1: I know Jamar Chase. Obviously, he's unreal. I wouldn't have
[52:25] Speaker 1: known what he looks like.
[52:26] Speaker 4: Okay. All right.
[52:28] Speaker 1: This is a good one. This is really kind of
[52:31] Speaker 1: zero chance.
[52:32] Speaker 4: It's our hockey goalie who won the gold.
[52:34] Speaker 1: There you go. Can't remember his name, though.
[52:36] Speaker 4: It's a long last name. I remember that. You're all
[52:39] Speaker 4: over it.
[52:40] Speaker 5: I'm mad.
[52:41] Speaker 1: I'm mad. I can't think of it right now. Give
[52:43] Speaker 1: me what it starts with. H.
[52:44] Speaker 4: Doesn't help.
[52:45] Speaker 1: First name Connor.
[52:46] Speaker 4: Connor.
[52:48] Speaker 1: I don't know. Connor Hellebuck. That was my favorite one.
[52:52] Speaker 3: And I know who it is.
[52:54] Speaker 1: You don't know the name.
[52:55] Speaker 4: I didn't get the name.
[52:57] Speaker 1: We've got a couple more. Oh, that's a good one.
[53:01] Speaker 1: That's a good one.
[53:01] Speaker 4: This actually is a good one too.
[53:05] Speaker 1: It's a profile shot.
[53:09] Speaker 4: Marco Mira? Yes. Oh, wow.
[53:14] Speaker 1: I didn't see that coming. Very good. Master's champion.
[53:20] Speaker 4: Wow.
[53:21] Speaker 1: Very pleased with myself. I'm impressed with that one, Sam. Yeah.
[53:25] Speaker 1: Are there any more? Oh, there we go. Oh, this
[53:27] Speaker 1: is a good one. Is that Mutombo?
[53:30] Speaker 2: No.
[53:30] Speaker 1: Good guess. Good guess. Right era. Wait for Seattle. Did
[53:35] Speaker 1: he play on the Rockets? No, Seattle Supersonics.
[53:38] Speaker 4: Seattle?
[53:39] Speaker 1: I'm not going to know it. Sean Kemp?
[53:42] Speaker 4: Sean Kemp.
[53:42] Speaker 1: I wasn't going to get that.
[53:43] Speaker 4: Okay. Okay.
[53:45] Speaker 1: Okay, this is also a good one. This is going
[53:47] Speaker 1: to be tough for Sam. Also, 30 years old. I mean,
[53:52] Speaker 1: I can't believe that's the photo we're using for this game.
[53:54] Speaker 1: This is just unbelievable. This is like a junior team.
[53:57] Speaker 1: Think Atlanta Braves. I'll say it's Atlanta Braves. Is that
[54:01] Speaker 1: like a young Chipper Jones?
[54:02] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[54:04] Speaker 6: Close tom glavin left tom glavin and that's the photo
[54:08] Speaker 6: we're gonna use i would have got tom glavin 19
[54:11] Speaker 6: or 20 times if you show me tom glavin in
[54:14] Speaker 6: normal tom glavin form.
[54:16] Speaker 1: Yeah like 1994 tom glavin you're gonna in a.
[54:19] Speaker 3: Brave tom glavin on the mound in a brave uniform
[54:22] Speaker 3: without getting showing glavin on the back i'm getting it
[54:24] Speaker 3: brave greg maddox is my favorite player of all time
[54:26] Speaker 3: i love the braves for like those five years okay fair.
[54:29] Speaker 1: Enough all right the game kind of oh here we
[54:32] Speaker 1: go then anthony lynn.
[54:35] Speaker 2: No.
[54:35] Speaker 1: You're wrong. You'd be wrong. You're close. Give me the sport. Basketball.
[54:47] Speaker 4: Basketball.
[54:49] Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn. For like a cup of coffee. You're all
[54:52] Speaker 1: over it. It's the dude on the Knicks. You're all
[54:55] Speaker 1: over it.
[54:55] Speaker 4: I'm all over it.
[54:56] Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn. Jeremy Lynn.
[55:00] Speaker 4: Jeremy Lynn. Jeremy Lynn.
[55:03] Speaker 1: That was a good one.
[55:04] Speaker 4: That was a good one. Linsanity.
[55:05] Speaker 1: That's tricky. That was tricky.
[55:07] Speaker 2: I mean, like, I wanted Michael Steak, like, serving at Wimbledon.
[55:10] Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
[55:12] Speaker 1: Yeah, copyright. I don't know if Sam would have got
[55:14] Speaker 1: that anyway. Yeah, I don't know if I would have
[55:15] Speaker 1: got Michael Steak anyway.
[55:16] Speaker 2: If I showed you Michael Steak, I don't know if
[55:18] Speaker 2: we don't get caught, but, like, holding the.
[55:20] Speaker 1: Wimbledon trophy, are you getting it?
[55:22] Speaker 4: No.
[55:22] Speaker 1: See, that's the one I want.
[55:23] Speaker 2: I mean, the guy won Wimbledon, and that's what makes
[55:25] Speaker 2: it a good one.
[55:26] Speaker 1: Wouldn't have got it. At least that's better. These guys
[55:28] Speaker 1: don't have Instagram, so we can't. pull up photos.
[55:32] Speaker 4: Sorry.
[55:32] Speaker 1: John and I were, we pretty much had you penciled in.
[55:34] Speaker 1: Like we thought Jamar chase was a layup for you. Well,
[55:37] Speaker 1: it's not in uniform, but that's, I get what you're saying.
[55:39] Speaker 1: Cause the football players are, they're always in helmets, right?
[55:41] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[55:42] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[55:42] Speaker 4: Yeah. All right.
[55:44] Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate you guys doing that.
[55:46] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[55:46] Speaker 2: Good.
[55:46] Speaker 1: 200th episode.
[55:48] Speaker 4: Francis.
[55:48] Speaker 1: What an interview. Francis was great.
[55:50] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[55:51] Speaker 1: What an interview. Um, and next week, We're going to
[55:56] Speaker 1: talk Cabo a little bit. We'll all be there. And
[55:58] Speaker 1: we've got a big interview next week with Eva Lise
[56:00] Speaker 1: coming out next Thursday. So tune in for that. Boys,
[56:04] Speaker 1: 200 episodes. Never thought we'd make it, but hopefully 200 more,
[56:07] Speaker 1: if not more.
[56:08] Speaker 2: That's right.
[56:08] Speaker 4: I know. Exactly.
[56:10] Speaker 1: Sam, good luck with your wife and not taking out
[56:12] Speaker 1: the trash. John, good luck with the kids.
[56:13] Speaker 3: Yeah, you as well.
[56:15] Speaker 1: See you guys. And we'll see everybody on Monday. All right.
[56:18] Speaker 4: See ya.
[56:27] Speaker 5: Nothing, nothing made you Nothing, nothing made you
[56:56] Speaker 4: Nothing made you.

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