# TMT:58 Mark Orr On Taking The K’s To No.1 & Building A Modern Indie Success Story

An episode of [The Money Trench - The Music Industry Podcast with Mark Sutherland](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1753614109), 31 Aug 2025, 1 h 01 min.

Audio: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/TNL7162315722.mp3

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by Mark Orr, founder of LAB Records. Starting the company while still at university and promoting DIY shows, Mark has grown LAB to hundreds of releases, while keeping a laser focus on artist development, physical retail, and sustainable growth. During their chat, Mark also breaks down how Indies compete on the biggest stages, what really moves the UK charts in 2025, and why location outside London can be a superpower rather than a handicap. NEWSLETTER Sign up HERE for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories. SOUNDON The Money Trench is sponsored by SoundOn. TIXEL The Money Trench is sponsored by Tixel. PPL The Money Trench is sponsored by the PPL. KEEP UP TO DATE For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on: Instagram: @the_money_trench LinkedIn: The Money Trench Website: The Money Trench GET IN TOUCH If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here! Thanks to our partners SoundOn Tixel PPL Earth/Percent Tom A Smith Aimless Play Fourth Pillar Sennheiser Junkhead Studio Tape Notes Executive Producer: Mike Walsh Producer: Tape Notes

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