# TMT:89 Martin Talbot On Why The Charts Still Matter

An episode of [The Money Trench - The Music Industry Podcast with Mark Sutherland](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1753614109), 10 May 2026, 1 h 01 min.

Audio: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/TNL3127968955.mp3

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark is joined by former CEO of the Official Charts Company, Martin Talbot. After nearly 2 decades at the helm of the OCC, Martin is here to share exactly how the charts work, and how they’ve evolved in that time. The pair also discuss how the wider music industry has changed in that time, and how technology is shaping the future. NEWSLETTER Sign up HERE for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories. SOUNDON The Money Trench is sponsored by SoundOn. TIXEL The Money Trench is sponsored by Tixel. PPL The Money Trench is sponsored by the PPL. KEEP UP TO DATE For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on: Instagram: @the_money_trench LinkedIn: The Money Trench Website: The Money Trench GET IN TOUCH If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here! Thanks to our partners SoundOn Tixel PPL Earth/Percent Tom A Smith Aimless Play Fourth Pillar Sennheiser Junkhead Studio Tape Notes Executive Producer: Mike Walsh Producer: Tape Notes

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