# TMT:45 Jamie Oborne On Managing The 1975 & Keeping The Spirit of Independence Alive

An episode of [The Money Trench - The Music Industry Podcast with Mark Sutherland](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1753614109), 25 May 2025, 1 h 00 min.

Audio: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/TNL2561867575.mp3?updated=1748175920

Welcome to The Money Trench! This week, Mark sits down with Jamie Oborne, founder of Dirty Hit Records and All On Red Management, and the guiding force behind The 1975, Bleachers, The Japanese House, and more. Jamie shares his journey from artist to manager to label boss, building one of the most influential independent operations in the UK music industry. Mark joins Jamie at Dirty Hit HQ for a candid conversation about building artist-first businesses, dealing with viral fame and controversies, maintaining independence, and preparing for one of the biggest gigs of their career: The 1975 at Glastonbury. NEWSLETTER Sign up HERE for the TMT newsletter - featuring each week’s hottest music industry stories. PPL The Money Trench is sponsored by the PPL. KEEP UP TO DATE For the latest podcast and music business updates, make sure to follow us on: Instagram: @the_money_trench LinkedIn: The Money Trench Website: The Money Trench GET IN TOUCH If you have any feedback, guest suggestions or general comments? We’d love to hear from you! - Get in touch here! Thanks to our partners PPL Earth/Percent Tom A Smith Aimless Play Fourth Pillar Sennheiser Junkhead Studio Tape Notes Executive Producer: Mike Walsh Producer: Tape Notes

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