# #93 - Jackson Warne - This Is Why Australians Are Losing Trust In The Government An episode of [2 Worlds Collide Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1748669782), 12 Apr 2026, 1 h 10 min. Audio: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/7463vtz3p8g8aqyp/Jackson_Spotifyalhqx.mp3 πŸŽ™ In This Episode of the 2 Worlds Collide Podcast, I sit down with Jackson Warne for a direct and open conversation about what’s happening in Australia right now and the conversations many people feel aren’t being had honestly. We dive into one of the most talked about issues in the country β€” the treatment of Ben Roberts-Smith. We unpack the broader conversation around soldiers, war, accountability, and why many Australians are questioning how veterans are judged years after combat. Beyond that, we discuss the state of Australia more broadly β€” including the long-term impact of COVID, the vaccine rollout, and the growing divide and loss of trust that came out of that period. This is a real, unfiltered conversation about national issues, public perception, and where the country is heading. 🧭 In This Episode We Cover: πŸͺ– The Ben Roberts-Smith conversation πŸ‡¦πŸ‡Ί The state of Australia today πŸ’‰ COVID, vaccines, and public trust βš–οΈ Accountability and public perception πŸ”₯ Division and national direction πŸ’₯ Support independent voices 🧒 Merch: https://www.2worldscollide.com.au/cat... 🀝 Join Patreon: https://www.2worldscollide.com.au/s-p... πŸ“Ί Stay Connected YouTube: @2worldscollide Instagram: @2worldscollidepodcast X: @2worldsPodcast Website: https://www.2worldscollide.com.au πŸ”– Follow the conversation #2WorldsCollide #JacksonWarne #BenRobertsSmith #Australia #COVID19 #PodcastAustralia #RealTalk #CommonSense ## Chapters - 0:00 Intro - 5:00 Jackson Warne and his perspective - 18:00 Ben Roberts-Smith discussion - 35:00 COVID, vaccines, and trust - 50:00 The direction of Australia Shows are listed from Apple Podcasts' charts and directory, and Podcast Index where it is used. Every show and episode belongs to its publisher and plays from the publisher's own feed; this site hosts none of them.