# What’s a Prompt? And Why Kids Should Learn to Use Them? (Older kids, parents, & teachers)

An episode of [AI for Kids](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1745917083), 23 Sep 2025, 31 min.

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Send us Fan Mail What if teaching your kids about AI felt as simple as asking a smart friend for help at the grocery store? In this episode of AI for Kids, we dig into one big question every parent is asking: What’s a prompt—and why should kids learn to use one? Together, we explore: • Can kids love science but hate math and still thrive in STEM? • How can you explain prompts to kids so it “clicks” right away? • What simple, fun prompts can kids try—from making coloring pages to writing stories? • What does it mean to think “AI-first,” and how can kids apply that mindset in everyday life? • Why starting small (with just three things you don’t want to do this week) is the easiest way for kids and parents to get comfortable with AI. Ashley also shares her new 10-day course designed to help future business owners use AI to turn their ideas into action—plus we get into her own journey from science lover to business builder. 👉 Tune in and discover how prompts can become your child’s secret tool for learning, creativity, and problem-solving. Resources Mentioned in This Episode: • How to Build a Business Using AI in 10 Days – Ashley’s Course • Connect with Ashley on LinkedIN Support the show Hey parents and teachers, if you want to stay on top of the AI news shaping your kids’ world, subscribe to our weekly AI for Kids Weekly newsletter: https://aiforkidsweekly.beehiiv.com/ Help us become the #1 podcast for AI for Kids, parents, teachers, and families. Gift or get the ABCs of AI Activity Deck to introduce your kids 5-9 to AI literacy. Like our content? patreon.com/AiDigiTales Get or gift the book “AI… Meets… AI” Social Media & Contact: • Website: www.aidigitales.com • Email: contact@aidigitales.com • Follow Us: Instagram • Books on Amazon or Free AI Worksheets Listen, rate, and subscribe! • Apple Podcasts • Amazon Music • Spotify • ...

## Chapters

- 0:59 Welcome Ashley Gross, AI strategist
- 4:10 The magic superpower of knowledge
- 4:59 Understanding prompts for kids
- 8:08 Tech trivia with Ashley
- 12:26 The Prompt Community explained
- 15:29 Why kids should learn AI
- 18:29 Building a business using AI
- 25:31 Two Truths and a Dream
- 30:29 Final advice and farewell

## Transcript

[0:31] Amber Ivey (AI): Hi everyone.
[0:31] Amber Ivey (AI): Welcome back to AI for Kids.
[0:33] Amber Ivey (AI): Today we have a special guest joining us on the show.
[0:35] Amber Ivey (AI): Please welcome Ashley Gross, an AI and business strategist.
[0:40] Amber Ivey (AI): I know you're wondering what that means.
[0:41] Amber Ivey (AI): Welcome, ashley.
[0:43] Ashley Gross: Thank you for having me.
[0:44] Amber Ivey (AI): I'm excited to be here we're so excited to have you because I just can't wait to dig into the full interview with you.
[0:50] Amber Ivey (AI): Before I do that, I want to ask you a question that I ask all my guests what was your favorite subject when you were a kid?
[0:56] Amber Ivey (AI): Did you always enjoy learning about things like technology and business?
[1:00] Ashley Gross: So I would say my favorite subject was probably science, hands down.
[1:04] Ashley Gross: I just loved exploring and understanding how things worked and intertwined, which naturally led me to technology.
[1:11] Ashley Gross: Business came later.
[1:12] Ashley Gross: I realized the impact technology had in solving real world problems, and then my business and my love for business came a little bit later and kind of connecting the technology and business aspects together.
[1:24] Amber Ivey (AI): So when you were thinking about science as a favorite subject, you liked it because of the connectivity, learning things.
[1:31] Amber Ivey (AI): What made you take the jump from?
[1:34] Amber Ivey (AI): Well, not really a jump, because science is around technology, but what made you take that jump from science to business?
[1:40] Ashley Gross: I think for me.
[1:41] Ashley Gross: I wasn't really amazing at math in school and so whenever you're taking degrees in science, you usually have to take statistics and pre-calc and things that I really, really didn't like.
[1:54] Ashley Gross: So I think for me it was a natural transition because I liked the science part but I didn't necessarily want to be swimming in the math equations all day, every day, that were required for school.
[2:06] Ashley Gross: So I liked business because it was rapid and it was fast and you could make things and ideas come to life a lot faster.
[2:13] Ashley Gross: So I think that's what kind of swayed me and transitioned me from science to business.
[2:18] Amber Ivey (AI): I'm glad you talked about that.
[2:19] Amber Ivey (AI): I've actually never like pulled out that nuance of loving science which often has math attached to it, but also not necessarily loving math and how you were able to transition that into a career.
[2:31] Amber Ivey (AI): So I know a lot of times there are kids who are like I don't do STEM because I'm not interested in the M part of the STEM right.
[2:36] Amber Ivey (AI): So I like that you were able to still be in a STEM career without loving math.
[2:41] Amber Ivey (AI): If you could have any superpower, what would it be and why?
[2:46] Ashley Gross: So I wish that my superpower could be like I could go up to any book and just touch it and absorb all of the knowledge instantly.
[2:53] Ashley Gross: So there's so much out there to discover and I'm so curious.
[2:57] Ashley Gross: I will go on deep dives and learn and research all day long if I could.
[3:01] Ashley Gross: So that would be the superpower that I choose the ability to absorb the knowledge from everywhere instantly.
[3:09] Amber Ivey (AI): I have to admit, I have a lot of books on my bookshelf that you can't see behind me, as well as my nightstand that I'm literally like trying to go through.
[3:17] Amber Ivey (AI): I'm trying to do Audible at the same time but I love that idea of being able to touch a book and everything is there.
[3:21] Amber Ivey (AI): Maybe with AI one day, right, we can get like the version of that.
[3:26] Amber Ivey (AI): So we'll see.
[3:27] Amber Ivey (AI): Maybe that can actually be a superpower that actually comes to fruition in the future.
[3:31] Amber Ivey (AI): I hope.
[3:32] Amber Ivey (AI): I hope so too, because I'm not going to get through all those books, but either way, you started something called the prompt community to help people learn how to use AI.
[3:41] Amber Ivey (AI): Can you tell us what a prompt is in a way that a kid can understand?
[3:46] Ashley Gross: Absolutely so.
[3:47] Ashley Gross: A prompt is like a magic question.
[3:49] Ashley Gross: You ask a computer a magic question to get it to help you.
[3:52] Ashley Gross: So if you were at a supermarket or a grocery store, right, and the computer was like your little super smart robot friend and you needed to ask it in a special way so that it helped you find something in the store, that's exactly what AI is.
[4:07] Amber Ivey (AI): It's just a little buddy that you ask questions so that it can help you understand, no matter what you're learning or where you're at and when you're thinking about prompts that kids can use, like some kids are actually using prompts and they're using tools that are available out there, that are large language models, with their parents.
[4:26] Amber Ivey (AI): What are some easy prompts a kid could use as they're exploring AI in the beginning?
[4:32] Ashley Gross: Such a great question.
[4:33] Ashley Gross: So some of my favorites are prompting ChatGPT to create a coloring book.
[4:40] Ashley Gross: So my son's really, really, really into dinosaurs and so on rainy days, I will just ask ChatGPT to create me a coloring book page and I'll describe the dinosaur, which is amazing because my son's three.
[4:53] Ashley Gross: So he'll just be like mommy, I want to draw, you know, a T-Rex, and there's trees and there's an ocean.
[4:58] Ashley Gross: You know, kids have such vivid imaginations and I can make all of that happen instantaneously, so it really is magical to him.
[5:04] Ashley Gross: So that's probably one of my favorite use cases that I would always recommend kids start out with, because you get it immediately and you're excited about it and it's something that you want to do and you're using technology to get you there faster.
[5:19] Amber Ivey (AI): That is such a cute idea, especially for a kid who, like you said, your son, is three.
[5:23] Amber Ivey (AI): Often people think about kids jumping onto these tools or using with their parents when they're much older, but that's just a really cool way.
[5:29] Amber Ivey (AI): And then when you print it out, and then they have a coloring page that they just literally were part of creating and, like you said, it does feel very much so like magic.
[5:37] Amber Ivey (AI): So, as a mom and an AI business owner, what do you think is the best way for kids to then learn how to prompt?
[5:43] Amber Ivey (AI): Like that was one great example of how you are prompting with your child, who is three.
[5:47] Amber Ivey (AI): What are some other ways that kids can learn how to do this?
[5:50] Ashley Gross: I think it really just starts with being curious and playful with technology.
[5:54] Ashley Gross: So, for example, you could ask an AI to help you write a story about your favorite superhero or ask it to solve a fun math puzzle.
[6:02] Ashley Gross: So I think it's less about what you're doing with it and more so I think the key is to think about prompts, like friendly questions that make the AI your helper, because the earlier on that you can figure out that the AI is going to enhance what you're already good at and learning a way to kind of jive with that and learn the balances and what's possible, then you can really open up your world to every possibility out there.
[6:26] Ashley Gross: You just have to learn how to communicate with it and get it to communicate back with you in a way that makes the most sense.
[6:31] Ashley Gross: So, whatever you're trying to use AI for I would just say learning and trying to get down pat what your communication style is and how the AI understands you, and making sure that the relationship with the LLM that you're using is working and it's beneficial both ways.
[6:49] Ashley Gross: That's where I would start, because the earlier you can get it to communicate really well back with you and you can enhance your communication to it, the more possibilities there are out there, because you can really do anything.
[7:01] Ashley Gross: But if you don't get past those initial hurdles of communication, then it becomes kind of like this monster instead of being a helper.
[7:10] Amber Ivey (AI): You're totally right about that, because some of the things that you mentioned were around just using it.
[7:14] Amber Ivey (AI): I think a lot of times people are a little bit nervous about using these tools, and it's just something that happens when you start to play around with it and you start to prompt it, where you learn its capabilities, where you can go from there.
[7:26] Amber Ivey (AI): I think you have to start by using it before you can even get to that point.
[7:29] Amber Ivey (AI): So I really appreciate you for calling that out.
[7:31] Amber Ivey (AI): I'm looking forward to digging even deeper into this whole idea of prompting, but we're going to do a quick tech trivia.
[7:37] Amber Ivey (AI): Are you interested in playing a game with me?
[7:38] Amber Ivey (AI): Yes, I promise you it's not too bad, and we kind of use questions that actually relate to your field.
[7:46] Amber Ivey (AI): So I'm going to start with a softball, and you kind of answered it, but I want you to go into what are prompts.
[7:57] Ashley Gross: Prompts are directions that you give your computer to help you get something out of it.
[8:03] Ashley Gross: That would be my answer.
[8:09] Amber Ivey (AI): Yep, that's exactly right and you went into it earlier, but I was like still going to ask you in case you want to update that answer for sure.
[8:15] Amber Ivey (AI): The next one is what is an LLM?
[8:34] Ashley Gross: means there's different kind of helpers, right.
[8:35] Ashley Gross: So there's different kinds of computers and they all have special gifts and skills and it just depends on what you need the computer to do.
[8:40] Ashley Gross: And then, based on what you need the computer to do, then you go pick which lln that you want.
[8:46] Ashley Gross: But really it's just different versions of artificial intelligence where, depending on if you want to conversate, you can go to ChatGPT because it's in the name, right.
[8:56] Ashley Gross: If you're trying to use something more specific, you can go to a different LLM for that.
[9:01] Ashley Gross: So Claude's a great example of an LLM that's really really good at parsing through hundreds and hundreds of PDFs and absorbing that knowledge and then breaking it down.
[9:10] Ashley Gross: So it's really just a different way of communicating.
[9:14] Ashley Gross: You need to look at it as you've got different helpers.
[9:16] Ashley Gross: Those are LLMs.
[9:18] Ashley Gross: They're all different and, based on the use case that you want, you can go to different ones that are better than others.
[9:55] Amber Ivey (AI): I'm glad you said that because I know we're in tech trivia, but I wanna dig deeper there for a second.
[9:59] Amber Ivey (AI): A lot of people don't realize that each of the different LLMs that are available are exactly what you just said.
[10:04] Amber Ivey (AI): They may be better at some things than others.
[10:07] Amber Ivey (AI): One of the ways I see this is the examples you just shared around, like PDFs with Claude or like for me.
[10:13] Amber Ivey (AI): I use Copilot during my day job, but I use ChatGPT at night, and ChatGPT is the model or LLM behind Copilot, but Copilot is built for a work instance and it acts very differently than its ChatGPT version that I use on the OpenAI site.
[10:28] Amber Ivey (AI): So it's just very interesting to see, as you're learning about these different models, some are better or get better at other use cases than others.
[10:35] Amber Ivey (AI): So I really appreciate you for calling that out.
[10:37] Amber Ivey (AI): Are you ready for one last question?
[10:39] Amber Ivey (AI): I'm ready.
[10:40] Amber Ivey (AI): Appreciate you for calling it out.
[10:43] Amber Ivey (AI): Are you ready for one last question?
[10:44] Amber Ivey (AI): I'm ready.
[10:44] Amber Ivey (AI): Which company had an LLM that they created but then changed its name?
[10:50] Ashley Gross: What a great question.
[10:52] Amber Ivey (AI): You know the answer.
[10:53] Amber Ivey (AI): I promise you, you know.
[10:55] Ashley Gross: Is it Chachi PT Google?
[11:06] Ashley Gross: Because they went from bar to oh, bar to Gemini.
[11:07] Amber Ivey (AI): I did know that I was like you got it right.
[11:08] Ashley Gross: I was like you know the answer to this one, but it's the anxiety of being like on a on a show, and it's like you got to answer fast.
[11:16] Amber Ivey (AI): And that's the fun part of it, right, but also the part that, like you said earlier, the whole idea of, like the questions on what's the name of that show how to the fifth grader.
[11:25] Ashley Gross: Oh, are you smarter than a fifth grader Are?
[11:26] Amber Ivey (AI): you smarter than a fifth grader Every single time, because it's like the pressure of it, like you know it and it's just your brain has to find the answer.
[11:32] Amber Ivey (AI): But yeah, like there are, know these answers.
[11:45] Amber Ivey (AI): So can you share more about the prompt community, what it does in a way that kids can understand?
[11:49] Ashley Gross: Sure.
[11:50] Ashley Gross: So the prompt community is like a big club where people learn to talk to smart computers.
[11:53] Ashley Gross: So we share tips and tricks on asking the right questions so the computers can help us with the cool projects that we want to do.
[12:00] Ashley Gross: So I created it because I want everyone, even kids, to see how fun and useful AI can be.
[12:06] Amber Ivey (AI): Where did the idea come from?
[12:08] Amber Ivey (AI): Were you thinking about it?
[12:10] Amber Ivey (AI): Because of the different tools you were seeing come up.
[12:12] Amber Ivey (AI): But what made you create this thing?
[12:15] Ashley Gross: What was your process?
[12:17] Ashley Gross: Yeah, absolutely so.
[12:18] Ashley Gross: I've been using generative ai so smart computers right since 2020, and back then it wasn't necessarily cool.
[12:25] Ashley Gross: It was a different climate to talk about um, and so you know, I've had four years of experience just seeing so many amazing use cases.
[12:34] Ashley Gross: And you know, I worked for an enterprise company which just really means that it's a big company and when I rolled company which just really means that it's a big company and when I rolled multiple smart computers out to our marketing org, we saw all these insane use cases and we were saving so much money, there was so much more productivity, people were loving their jobs because they were automating a lot of the tasks that they hated doing and I thought, okay, this is insane, this is amazing, very exciting, but I think that it could be more beneficial to small business owners and entrepreneurs instead of you know, huge corporations.
[13:06] Ashley Gross: I really wanted to give the power back to, you know, the freelancers and the entrepreneurs, because the smaller a company is especially if you know you're just building a business on your own, like I am the faster you can move, because you can experiment with these tools a lot quicker and there's not so much red tape.
[13:24] Ashley Gross: So I thought this is what I want to do.
[13:26] Ashley Gross: I want to teach the entrepreneurs and the future business owners of the world how to use this technology this early on, so that 10 years down the road they are not facing the same challenges that we have now and we've had in the past.
[13:41] Amber Ivey (AI): I love that because I also use generative AI in my side businesses AI for Kids AI, digitales, et cetera and it just saves so much time in just doing often mundane activities you have to do over and over again.
[13:57] Amber Ivey (AI): It allows me to be creative and do other things and not have to worry about some of the things like write this email or even for like this conversation we're having today.
[14:05] Amber Ivey (AI): I created a prompt that allows me to have a template that's able to pull in the bio and then I can edit the questions, of course, after it does what it needs to do to make sure it hits what I want to talk about, but it makes it so much easier in generating just information that needs to be generated pretty quickly to get the information out.
[14:21] Amber Ivey (AI): So I don't have to have an assistant there who's writing all the emails and et cetera.
[14:25] Amber Ivey (AI): I can literally use the tool there.
[14:27] Amber Ivey (AI): Granted, you should also still have assistant, and I have it for other places, but I'd rather use an assistant in other areas that a human truly needs to be a part of, and I try to remove those activities that most people don't like anyway and put the AI in place of those.
[14:40] Amber Ivey (AI): Absolutely, I love that.
[14:43] Amber Ivey (AI): So why is it important?
[14:45] Amber Ivey (AI): And I plan to join your community if it's open.
[14:47] Amber Ivey (AI): We'll talk about that soon on how people can get involved but why is it important for kids to learn how to use AI tools?
[14:53] Amber Ivey (AI): And I'll start there first before I ask this follow-up question.
[14:57] Ashley Gross: Sure.
[14:57] Ashley Gross: So AI is going to be a big part of the future, and so learning it will be for you to really use it to enable you to be or do anything that you want.
[15:27] Ashley Gross: That's what I would say.
[15:28] Ashley Gross: It's like a skill.
[15:30] Amber Ivey (AI): I definitely agree with that and I like the idea of AI first.
[15:34] Amber Ivey (AI): I often hear like share first, data first and those types of concepts.
[15:37] Amber Ivey (AI): I haven't heard that yet, so that's super helpful to hear.
[15:40] Amber Ivey (AI): Can you talk a little bit more about what AI first means to kids, who may not know what you mean by that?
[15:46] Ashley Gross: Yeah, absolutely so.
[15:47] Ashley Gross: What I mean by that is, you know, if you were to look at really any task, right, it's a process.
[15:54] Ashley Gross: And if you have to do something over and over and over again, I guarantee you.
[15:58] Ashley Gross: Let's just take, for example, what's something manual that kids have to do every single day?
[16:05] Amber Ivey (AI): Like setting an alarm or waking up every morning.
[16:07] Ashley Gross: There we go.
[16:07] Ashley Gross: Okay, so instead of spending I don't know 10 minutes every single day readjusting your alarm clock so that it wakes you up every morning right, Because you have to have that wake you up every morning, Otherwise your whole day gets delayed.
[16:19] Ashley Gross: So it's important.
[16:20] Ashley Gross: So you can't get rid of that process.
[16:26] Ashley Gross: But let's just say you want to enhance it with AI and look at that problem specifically from an AI-first perspective.
[16:29] Ashley Gross: Well then, maybe you create or I'm sure this already exists or it will soon in the future you prompt an LLM and you say hey, a special computer.
[16:41] Ashley Gross: And you say, hey, every morning, at 8 am, I want you to wake me up.
[16:44] Ashley Gross: And then, instead of you manually having to tweak your alarm clock every single morning, you set one rule one time and now it's taken care of every single morning.
[16:53] Ashley Gross: And now you still need to make sure that it's working right, Because I'm sure at some point you'll have to remind it again to reset it at 8, or maybe eight, or maybe on the weekends you want to sleep in, so you want it to ignore that.
[17:04] Ashley Gross: So there's some tweaking that you have to do and you still have to be the person that is creating those rules and enforcing them.
[17:10] Ashley Gross: But that's an example of having an AI first mentality.
[17:14] Amber Ivey (AI): Oh, I love that example and that's super helpful to think about just where there's a problem, think of how AI can solve it and try to solve it with AI and, like you said, always go back to it, because a lot of times I think for new to AI, we may think whatever it gives me, that's it, and not having to check back in and not having we're not making sure that it's still working or editing it or asking it to even go further with its responses.
[17:37] Amber Ivey (AI): So I love the idea of the feedback loop as well.
[17:39] Amber Ivey (AI): So how can kids start learning about AI?
[17:44] Ashley Gross: I would say one always go at it with a friend, because it's so much easier to learn things if you have at least one friend, if not a few, learning the same thing.
[17:54] Ashley Gross: It just makes it more fun because, if you think about it, you spend most of your days with the same group of people, and so if you're not talking about AI with those people, it's really hard for you to be motivated to learn about it and keep using it.
[18:05] Ashley Gross: So I would say, buddy up one.
[18:07] Ashley Gross: The second piece of advice I would give is write down three things that you have to do this week that you don't want to do, and then go, try to figure out a way to use AI to help you do those tasks faster, because it'll make you happier and it'll bring you immediate value and joy.
[18:25] Ashley Gross: And that's what we want to do.
[18:26] Ashley Gross: Right, we want to slowly build up our use cases and our experience using these special computers by creating use cases that take 30 seconds and then 60 seconds and then 90 seconds, and then, before you know it, you're doing all these really, really cool things and using AI.
[18:42] Ashley Gross: And maybe you know one session with an AI agent takes 30 minutes.
[18:47] Ashley Gross: But if we work at it incrementally and do little baby steps.
[18:50] Ashley Gross: It's more fun, it's more motivating and you're learning at a more sustainable pace.
[18:55] Ashley Gross: So that would be my advice.
[18:56] Amber Ivey (AI): I love that idea, and even for adults, for sure.
[18:59] Amber Ivey (AI): Every day, I try to get people to use AI more and more, but people are often nervous about it or don't know its limitations or where to start.
[19:06] Amber Ivey (AI): But to your point, I love the idea of taking three things that I do not want to do.
[19:10] Amber Ivey (AI): I have no interest in doing and starting there, especially when you're either a kid and you're new to this, or an adult when you're new to this.
[19:17] Amber Ivey (AI): I think it just puts a different perspective around how I can use AI, and each week, I'm going to have three different things that I can work on, so I'm learning how AI can be used across different tools, et cetera, and even trying out different tools to do this, to see the impacts, and I appreciate that example and I'm going to borrow that from you to tell other folks how they should be using AI and learning about AI.
[19:36] Amber Ivey (AI): Please do, thank you, I have permission, so I'm going forward.
[19:43] Ashley Gross: AI, please do.
[19:44] Ashley Gross: Thank you.
[19:44] Ashley Gross: I have permission, so I'm going forward.
[19:45] Ashley Gross: You do not need my permission at all, but I'm encouraging you to.
[19:48] Amber Ivey (AI): Can you tell us about a project or something you're really excited about right now?
[19:52] Ashley Gross: Yes, so my first course and it is called how to Build a Business Using AI in 10 Days and it is actually modeled off of the blueprint on how I built my business in 10 days.
[20:03] Ashley Gross: So I'm really, really excited because when I was going through the process of building my business, I was really just like we were talking about.
[20:12] Ashley Gross: I had this AI first mentality.
[20:14] Ashley Gross: So I've been a business owner for a while, I've had a few past businesses, and so it was nice because this is the first business that I've had in the AI era.
[20:24] Ashley Gross: And so when I was looking at building my business, I was like, okay, here's all the things that I know I have to do that I really am not excited about.
[20:30] Ashley Gross: So it was filing legal paperwork, and kids probably don't know a lot about this stuff, but the parents can relate to the EIN and which LLC and all of this legal mumba trademarking.
[20:42] Ashley Gross: I had to have an encyclopedia open while I was doing all this stuff because it was so technical I didn't understand any of it.
[20:48] Ashley Gross: So when I was building my business, I was like, okay, here's all the things that I am not excited to do, that I have to do.
[20:53] Ashley Gross: Here's the tools that are going to help me do this right.
[20:57] Ashley Gross: So, and a great example is you know, when I had to fill out my trademark for my how to build a business and AI course, I had a little AI chat bot that could break down all of these words so that I understood what I was signing my name to and what I was doing.
[21:12] Ashley Gross: So I'm really excited about this course because I had an AI approach to it as well, as I just looked at the three reasons that business owners usually don't succeed and the challenges they face, and I built the course as an exact replica of okay, here's the challenges that you're going to face, but here's the solutions for all of those challenges, so you can't fail.
[21:36] Ashley Gross: Solutions for all of those challenges, so you can't fail.
[21:37] Ashley Gross: And I'm really excited and proud of that because I think that it's practical, it's easy, the course is 10 days and it's jam-packed with so much meat and substance in there as far as learning goes.
[21:47] Ashley Gross: So, after the course is over, every activity that they've done every single day adds up to be a business plan, including a financial aspect.
[21:55] Ashley Gross: So they're actually ready to go take this business plan and their financial projections and go raise money or go find an angel investor or bootstrap it if they want to, which means that they raise their own money for it, for all the kids out there.
[22:08] Ashley Gross: So they actually have this, and usually I'm sure you can relate to this it takes so, so, so long to create a business plan with financial projections.
[22:17] Ashley Gross: So I teach them how to do that without even making them realize that they're doing that.
[22:22] Ashley Gross: At the end of this, their minds are going to be blown.
[22:25] Amber Ivey (AI): That is one super cool.
[22:27] Amber Ivey (AI): I'm definitely excited to share that in the show notes as well.
[22:30] Amber Ivey (AI): I love the idea of, especially for adult learners.
[22:32] Amber Ivey (AI): We have to be able to take something and use it immediately, and you've applied that in your program and made it very easy for someone to go through all the steps, not feel the pain of the steps.
[22:42] Amber Ivey (AI): Right, you take away the pain of it and then they get to the end and they're like oh, I've been doing the work and I have this business plan or directions for how I'm going to run my business.
[22:50] Amber Ivey (AI): I think that's super cool and kudos to you for using AI to create a business and to create a business that's helping others figure out how to run their businesses.
[22:58] Amber Ivey (AI): I think it's just a really good example.
[23:00] Ashley Gross: Thank you.
[23:01] Ashley Gross: I think everyone is so full of amazing ideas and you know everyone can be a business owner.
[23:06] Ashley Gross: I just think that you know, unfortunately, there's a good bit of a gap with a lack of affordable and accessible education, and you know those two things are huge barriers for a lot of people, and even someone like me who works in technology, trying to fill out you know documents or looking at privacy policies.
[23:24] Ashley Gross: It can be so overwhelming.
[23:26] Ashley Gross: So, instead of letting that be a reason to prevent me from staying in the field, I'm just using you know AI to rewrite the rules for other people so that they understand it in a way that resonates with them.
[23:36] Amber Ivey (AI): To rewrite the rules for other people so that they understand it in a way that resonates with them.
[23:39] Amber Ivey (AI): I like that because even with, like you said, you've gone, you've worked for these big companies, you've done all this, but you yourself are like what is going on in this trademark?
[23:48] Amber Ivey (AI): I have a legal degree and I'm still like why are we putting this out there for people to make life decisions with these complicated terms and complicated words?
[23:55] Amber Ivey (AI): And it's just not fair and people often feel like they can't do it without a lawyer.
[24:00] Amber Ivey (AI): But, like you said, tools like AI can help you understand the words, understand what it means, but AI also will tell you if it can't do it.
[24:07] Amber Ivey (AI): It'll say, hey, talk to a lawyer.
[24:09] Amber Ivey (AI): It'll always say, hey, this medical issue, talk to a doctor.
[24:12] Amber Ivey (AI): Like it tries to also point you in a direction.
[24:13] Amber Ivey (AI): But I'm glad people have access to mostly free tools where they can get that help and I just appreciate you for bringing that up, because those are very important things and that was the whole point, I believe, of the Internet is to give everybody access to the same playing field, and these tools are hopefully making it a little bit more.
[24:30] Amber Ivey (AI): Even so, thank you for that.
[24:35] Amber Ivey (AI): We're going to do something fun again to learn more about you.
[24:37] Amber Ivey (AI): It's called Two Truths and a Dream.
[24:37] Amber Ivey (AI): We're going to do something fun again to learn more about you.
[24:39] Amber Ivey (AI): It's called Two Truths and a Dream and you're going to tell us two true facts about your life and a dream job or dream experience.
[24:44] Amber Ivey (AI): It doesn't have to be related to a job, if you don't want to share a job that you may have had as a kid, and myself, along with the kids, are going to try to guess which one's the dream.
[24:50] Amber Ivey (AI): Are you ready?
[24:52] Ashley Gross: I'm ready.
[24:53] Amber Ivey (AI): Okay, go for it.
[24:54] Amber Ivey (AI): Feel free to mix it up.
[24:55] Amber Ivey (AI): Two facts and a dream.
[24:57] Ashley Gross: Okay, I was once a scientist, I was once a hotel manager and I wanted to be a ballerina dancer.
[25:07] Amber Ivey (AI): Okay.
[25:07] Amber Ivey (AI): One you were once a scientist.
[25:10] Amber Ivey (AI): Two you were a hotel manager.
[25:12] Amber Ivey (AI): And three you wanted to be a ballerina dancer.
[25:15] Amber Ivey (AI): You said want it to right, yes, okay.
[25:18] Amber Ivey (AI): So one you were a scientist.
[25:21] Amber Ivey (AI): You have said to me I'm going to, like kids, also do the same thing at home.
[25:25] Amber Ivey (AI): Think about what Ashley has talked to us about the whole time.
[25:28] Amber Ivey (AI): Think about if you can figure out which one of these is right from her experiences.
[25:31] Amber Ivey (AI): So one you said you wanted to be a scientist.
[25:35] Amber Ivey (AI): I do recall that as a kid, science was your favorite, or you were a scientist, I was, sciences was your favorite topic.
[25:40] Amber Ivey (AI): So I'm going to hold that one for now, because that could be.
[25:43] Amber Ivey (AI): You also have a technology focus, business focus.
[25:46] Amber Ivey (AI): You could have done a job that relates to science.
[25:48] Amber Ivey (AI): So let me stop and put that one on the side.
[25:50] Amber Ivey (AI): You were a hotel manager.
[25:52] Amber Ivey (AI): You could have been growing up a long life, but nothing came up for me.
[25:59] Amber Ivey (AI): That makes me think that that was one of the things you may have done, because I didn't hear any context around that, but still you could have been.
[26:02] Amber Ivey (AI): So I'm still holding that one on for a second.
[26:04] Amber Ivey (AI): And then the third one was you want it to be a ballerina.
[26:08] Amber Ivey (AI): I feel like we all want to be ballerinas at one point.
[26:10] Amber Ivey (AI): So I think that one is the truest one of them all.
[26:13] Amber Ivey (AI): And I'm probably wrong, but I'll take.
[26:15] Amber Ivey (AI): I'll take the chance.
[26:15] Amber Ivey (AI): I'm going to assume you want to be a ballerina, because we all want to be ballerinas.
[26:19] Amber Ivey (AI): That's one, or at least I did Two.
[26:22] Amber Ivey (AI): I'm going to guess that it was that you weren't a scientist and that was a dream.
[26:28] Amber Ivey (AI): That dream is scientist.
[26:34] Ashley Gross: You are correct.
[26:37] Amber Ivey (AI): I was wrong, sorry.
[26:38] Amber Ivey (AI): I'm going to go ahead and hand clap myself.
[26:40] Amber Ivey (AI): Sorry, kids and everyone else who got in you for hearing my scream.
[26:43] Amber Ivey (AI): I thought I was wrong, awesome.
[26:45] Amber Ivey (AI): So talk more about that.
[26:46] Amber Ivey (AI): Talk more about the three different things.
[26:48] Amber Ivey (AI): Well, the ballerina piece, as well as the hotel manager.
[26:50] Amber Ivey (AI): I want to learn more about that role.
[26:53] Ashley Gross: Yeah, so I actually was a ballerina dancer.
[26:56] Ashley Gross: That's so cool, Okay, cool.
[26:57] Ashley Gross: So at one point in time I wanted to be a professional ballerina dancer but unfortunately, biologically I am not really equipped to be a ballerina dancer.
[27:08] Ashley Gross: So I have very flat feet with actually like no arch at all, and so I am just genetically not created to be a dancer.
[27:18] Ashley Gross: I was getting injured all the time.
[27:20] Ashley Gross: I actually had to go from like foot doctor to foot doctor to foot doctor and get them to sign off saying that I was allowed to dance professionally.
[27:29] Amber Ivey (AI): And.
[27:29] Ashley Gross: I went through four doctors to find a doctor that actually signed off on it until I got, you know, injured so many times that he was like I don't think I can sign off on this anymore.
[27:38] Ashley Gross: So unfortunately it was not in the cards for me, but that was the ballerina dancer.
[27:42] Amber Ivey (AI): I didn't know the thing about flat feet.
[27:44] Amber Ivey (AI): I just learned that today.
[27:44] Amber Ivey (AI): I didn't know that, yeah.
[27:46] Ashley Gross: Cause you spend a lot of your time being on, you know your tippy toes and you have to balance your foot a certain way, and so, whenever you're using one part of your foot and not the other one, if there's no arch to make up for that lack of support, then every time you come down it's an impact yes, Got it?
[28:02] Amber Ivey (AI): Oh wow.
[28:03] Amber Ivey (AI): Learn something new and then tell us about when you were a hotel manager.
[28:07] Ashley Gross: Yes.
[28:08] Ashley Gross: So I was transitioning careers and I really wanted to pick up marketing and I lived in a beach town in North Carolina.
[28:17] Ashley Gross: I lived in the Outer Banks for four years.
[28:20] Amber Ivey (AI): Oh yeah.
[28:20] Ashley Gross: So while I was getting certified and training and doing some free internship and apprenticeship work online, I need to have an income because life's expensive.
[28:31] Ashley Gross: So I went from business to business, because this was old school, so you could actually print your resume off and walk from business to business.
[28:39] Ashley Gross: Because this was old school, so you could actually print your resume off and walk from business to business.
[28:42] Ashley Gross: Those days are over, I guess.
[28:43] Ashley Gross: So that's what I did and they were like hey, listen, you don't have experience with hotels, but you're a people person.
[28:49] Ashley Gross: Would you like to be the innkeeper?
[28:50] Ashley Gross: Because it was for an inn.
[28:51] Amber Ivey (AI): Oh wow, that's so cool.
[28:53] Ashley Gross: I was probably one of the youngest innkeepers in the state of North Carolina.
[28:56] Ashley Gross: At the time I was like 22.
[28:58] Ashley Gross: So it was interesting.
[29:00] Ashley Gross: It was interesting I mean everything I've done.
[29:02] Ashley Gross: It's funny because you know as you get older.
[29:07] Ashley Gross: I'm sure the kids don't know what I'm talking about, but you will as you get older.
[29:09] Ashley Gross: It doesn't really matter what you do, because you'll learn from every experience you have and you'll be able to use those experiences later on regardless of where you end up.
[29:22] Amber Ivey (AI): So there's always things that you can learn and grow from.
[29:24] Amber Ivey (AI): Oh, yeah, and the funny thing is, now that you've explained it, it literally didn't click when I was going through that exercise.
[29:28] Amber Ivey (AI): That's a business.
[29:29] Amber Ivey (AI): So I'm like you, love business.
[29:30] Amber Ivey (AI): So I should have thought about that when you said manager, because that's what that job does it runs that business and makes sure that hotel is able to run and, like you said, you're able to learn marketing skills and other skills from that role.
[29:40] Amber Ivey (AI): So that was another clue that I missed, but glad that you called it out.
[29:43] Amber Ivey (AI): Yeah, and before we go, do you have any advice for kids who want to learn more about AI and how they can use it to achieve their own goals?
[29:53] Ashley Gross: So stay curious, do not be afraid to ask questions, play with the AI tools safely, with your parents watching, and see what they can create.
[30:00] Ashley Gross: I would just say in general, to wrap it up the more you explore, the more you'll learn and the more you'll discover what you're actually capable of.
[30:08] Ashley Gross: So lean into it.
[30:10] Amber Ivey (AI): Ashley, thank you so much for joining us today and thank you, listeners, for tuning in, as always.
[30:14] Amber Ivey (AI): Don't forget to subscribe, rate us at the AI for Kids podcast and stay curious.

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