# Premier League Teams Struggle in Champions League? Man City & Arsenal Stumble| Box2Box Podcast EP 31

An episode of [Box2Box Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1743312473), 11 Nov 2024, 1 h 20 min.

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Episode 31 is here! What a week it has been... Man City with yet another loss after witnessing their disappointing midweek CL performance. Arsenal is unable to beat Inter but they grab a point versus Chelsea during the weekend. Do Premier League struggle in Europe or is that a myth? Meanwhile in Serie A the title race is open for the taking! CHECK OUT OUR PATREON FOR BONUS CONTENT: https://www.patreon.com/Box2BoxShow Instagram: Box2box.show TikTok: Box2box.show Twitter (X) : Box2Box_show Varvar's instagram: @varvar_b2b Pala's Instagram: @luca.palazzese Mili's Instagram: @amiliziano Ferms' Instagram: @fermini_ TIMESTAMPS 00:00 INTRO 8:13 MAN CITY FALL OFF 26:12 ARSENAL'S PERFORMANCES 35:37 CHAMPIONS LEAGUE REVIEW 1:00:07 LIVERPOOL BEST TEAM ITW

## Transcript

[0:00] Welcome back to the Boxer Box podcast.
[0:02] This is episode 31, and today we're going to be talking about
[0:04] Man City losing back-to-back to back.
[0:07] Who's to blame? Then we'll go over the games in
[0:09] the Champions League. English teams getting very bad.
[0:12] Results and Real Madrid win, but is Ancelotti seat getting
[0:15] hotter? All that and more on the Boxer
[0:17] Box Podcast. Let's go you.
[0:20] Ain't go home, Your Honor. I'm sorry, Your Honor, I'm sorry
[0:26] if we don't compete with City. This is a failure of a season.
[0:29] I. Can already tell you.
[0:31] I'll tell you in advance you failed.
[0:32] I'm going to take central midfielder Federico Valdez.
[0:37] What? Yeah, no.
[0:39] That he is the. Worst midfielder for Real Madrid
[0:42] this season? That's like, that's what he's
[0:44] saying. Neymar was the worst player in
[0:46] MSN boys. Big week in football, how we all
[0:53] doing? I'm doing good this week.
[0:55] This week especially, is a very spectacular week.
[0:59] Let's just. Why?
[0:59] Why would you say that? Now, firms, are you gonna
[1:03] address this? Oh.
[1:04] My God, I knew it. What are you guys up to?
[1:06] I don't know, firms let the let the crowd know.
[1:09] You you could you could do your thing.
[1:10] Clearly, clearly there's something you're.
[1:12] Parading, Do you know what's going on?
[1:13] So. Once in a while, you know, Once
[1:15] in a blue moon. You could do it.
[1:16] So basically for European viewers, you guys play one type
[1:21] of FPL. OK, There's another type of FPL
[1:24] on the website called FPL Draft, and it's more North American
[1:28] style where it goes through a draft.
[1:31] So we're 12 players in our league and FP.
[1:34] LFPL is fantasy by the way. Yeah, fantasy for Premier
[1:37] League. Yeah, and so it goes through
[1:40] round by round and you get to select players.
[1:42] So this year Paula got first overall choice, he got to pick
[1:44] Holland. Lucky, I mean.
[1:47] Well, he's third. I thought the football was like.
[1:50] Thinking it up recently. Still OK.
[1:53] And then who went? I believe second was?
[1:55] It was me. And you went who?
[1:57] And I went for Saka over Salah because I thought that Liverpool
[2:01] wouldn't be this good and I thought Larson would be better.
[2:03] Saka got traded the next like I traded, but I got good value for
[2:06] him. Who did you trade him for?
[2:08] Now I, I don't know off the top of my head, but it was like a
[2:10] good overall team, like it was a one for four basically.
[2:13] And then whatever, Salah I think went third.
[2:16] But basically it goes through player by player and there's one
[2:19] day at the before the season starts.
[2:20] So we all, we all like draft our teams and then assemble our
[2:23] teams and then we could pick up players and stuff during the
[2:26] season. Basically game week 11, it all
[2:28] came down to top of the table clash.
[2:32] Varvar FC versus Ferms FC and the big dogs, let's just say.
[2:38] Let's just say by Sunday lunch we didn't even need to worry
[2:42] about the Arsenal. Chelsea, bro, the game's
[2:43] finished at Sunday lunch, what are you talking about?
[2:46] I ate my lunch in peace, not stressed at all, let's just say.
[2:49] I'll bring it up. This is the first time you
[2:51] brothers talk about FPL and the firms has to give a bit of
[2:55] context because I hear your conversations of firms 1150
[2:59] points every week. 11 weeks of back-to-back.
[3:01] By the way, by the way. Well, except this week.
[3:04] Yeah, except this. It's always except for this
[3:06] week, whenever they. Play.
[3:06] That's crazy. 11 weeks of 50 points that.
[3:08] That's a lie. You do not have 11 weeks of 50
[3:11] points. That's Cap.
[3:12] I think maybe we're. Not have 500 points.
[3:14] Yes, I am check, check you're you're a 5 something so that's
[3:18] OK. So I'm not 11 weeks of 50 is
[3:20] 550. So you you're not at 5. 40 let's
[3:22] say. Conservatively over 40 last
[3:26] week, 50 week before 4444564853 average 52.
[3:32] Bro this is the same. That's the same numbers. 30 is
[3:34] the lowest one there. I'm only 20 points behind firms
[3:36] or something. Those are crazy. #20 Fact Check,
[3:38] yeah, Fact Check that so. Actually, this is another thing,
[3:41] 'cause he's saying, 'cause my metric, my metric for the best
[3:44] team on FPL is the most points, and obviously the standings I'm
[3:48] first with the most points, he's saying my team is shit.
[3:50] You see, the issue is is that I haven't had Martin Odegard
[3:54] basically the entire. I haven't had KDB.
[3:56] KDB Martin Odegard's gonna accumulate more points than KDB
[3:59] throughout the season. Clip export it you.
[4:01] Said it will it just he? Will you said it, He will.
[4:04] Odegard was a top ten FBO player last season.
[4:06] KDB wasn't. You said so what's what's your?
[4:09] DB was injured for long last. Season KDB just gets injured,
[4:12] Odegard doesn't. So me not having Odegard.
[4:15] As a ballot of my but. Basically it came down down to
[4:18] it. I dropped 59 points, firms
[4:19] dropped 40. Wasn't even close.
[4:21] I ate my lunch in peace. Thank you.
[4:23] I have a fucking good team too. Make sure to include.
[4:27] That I have a good team. I'm sure to say that bro.
[4:30] Because your team is I, I know your team I.
[4:33] Have. A better I know it's given
[4:34] props. I have Bruno, I have Odegard, I
[4:37] have Solanke, I have Trent like I have oh Nana, the best goalie
[4:40] in FPL this year. I mean I got a stacked ass team.
[4:42] All he knows Palace team is garbage.
[4:44] That's it's Holland, it's house. Drive by bro.
[4:48] Holland and Holland and pray and then Millie was too scared to
[4:51] join the league so I said. Oh my God, you guys, you guys,
[4:54] you guys go hard. I'm not gonna lie, from an
[4:55] outsider perspective, I actually enjoy.
[4:57] It brass, bro. I I I enjoy it from an outsider
[5:00] perspective, I don't. Enjoy it and I'm next year
[5:01] you're. Joining Bro.
[5:02] Don't worry, I'm already there. We will do it.
[5:04] I know you guys have a couple. Millions for the team next year,
[5:06] me and you. I know, I know a couple brothers
[5:07] on that list that you guys have you're thinking of we're kicking
[5:10] them, putting them on the chopping block, so.
[5:12] We need consistent pressure like that.
[5:14] We need not to say nothing. I didn't say who.
[5:15] I didn't say when, I didn't say how.
[5:17] It's just, yeah, you guys go, you guys shout.
[5:20] Out Lane Town FC, yeah. Most active one on the SPL?
[5:25] This guy for some reason every single year and we keep inviting
[5:29] him for some reason, he's our he's our friend from high
[5:31] school, but he joins every single year, doesn't even show
[5:37] up and then just just he doesn't show up to the draft with auto
[5:40] Jackson brother He has he has Julian Alvarez in his team.
[5:45] He doesn't even play in the Premier League anymore.
[5:47] What's up bro? Week 12 coming up.
[5:49] I think he had the record for lowest points this week.
[5:52] I don't know. I played him.
[5:53] I played him and I think he accumulated maybe like 12 points
[5:56] or something. Oh my, barely double digits.
[5:58] That's crazy work. He has like 6 players that are
[6:01] that are red, they're just not in like the league not playing.
[6:04] What sucks is that then we can't trade.
[6:05] Yeah. Like all, all his players are on
[6:07] Guantanamo Bay. Your son.
[6:09] MIAMIA, it's Guantanamo Bay, Bayanara.
[6:14] Like he has son Madison, he has decent team to be Mateta, he has
[6:19] he has some other decent players where like if you thought of
[6:22] Troshard, Troshard and. I tried getting a trade out of
[6:24] him earlier this year but it took two days to answer me and
[6:27] then said I'll check it out. And he never opened the app.
[6:29] He would have to reinstall the app I think to actually get, but
[6:32] whatever. How's the iCloud emoji right
[6:34] now? You have to.
[6:35] Redownload. But yeah, that's anyways I
[6:38] smoked firms in FPL so yeah. And.
[6:41] We were speaking about this game for weeks.
[6:43] Yeah off camera it was game. We were like 4 game weeks ago
[6:48] and I was firms. Wait till game week 11 bro.
[6:51] Wait till the game. We're first and 2nd, so I mean
[6:54] no, nothing has happened. Loki, if people like this FPL
[6:57] talk, you give them a little quick little update after every
[6:59] over something like that. Some here's something I don't
[7:02] know. It depends.
[7:02] I'll see what I. Also did good in the discord.
[7:06] I also did good in the Patreon. The Patreon Discord did a couple
[7:10] of transfers this week. I brought in because I have the
[7:13] lap, I have Holland up top and then I also brought in they.
[7:16] Still count in that. I I brought in I have Smith Row
[7:19] and Sala so but this week I transferred out Holland because
[7:23] you don't realize how much oh brother, how much money Holland
[7:27] is in FPL until you transfer him out He's.
[7:28] Like what is 13 or 14? 15,000,000 So you could buy 2
[7:33] Bruno Fernandez for one, but there's even.
[7:35] Value like striker wise you have Wolves strikers like Strand
[7:39] Larson. I brought in Isaac.
[7:40] Isaac has insane fixtures for the next couple months Draw
[7:43] Pedro. Yeah like these guys are cheaper
[7:45] and they'll drop these 5 million It's very you get 3 JAL Pedros
[7:49] for one How watch that price go up this week Yeah well gonna go.
[7:52] I think he's at 5.4 something that but crazy.
[7:54] Whatever. Yeah, a lot of you guys aren't
[7:55] even FPL players. Shout out Marcus Brun, he's
[7:57] currently top of the top of the box.
[7:59] The Patreon. If you want to join the FPL, you
[8:02] need to join the Patreon. Sorry, Marcus.
[8:04] Brin, Brin, Brin. And in the disco we have a
[8:07] little FPL group chat which is nice to see.
[8:10] Which they all said, my team's better than firms, but whatever,
[8:12] we can move on. Man City, another loss against
[8:17] Brighton. Now it's starting to rack up
[8:19] loss after loss after loss. Who's to blame here?
[8:22] We can't be letting the slide. There's a few options because
[8:26] you're either blaming it on obviously Pep Guardiola.
[8:28] Some people are just, some people are true to the fact that
[8:31] the manager is always to blame in in stretches of bad form.
[8:34] Do you blame it on players? Is there a lack of quality?
[8:38] It's it's a tough spot. Pep Guardiola loses KDB, OK, you
[8:41] think he could be able to recover from that?
[8:43] Then you lose Rodri. These are two key guys that you
[8:47] do not have on your team. But again, this is Manchester
[8:49] City. You have the depth, you have the
[8:51] squad to compete. And it's not like Kovacic is
[8:53] playing bad. First of all, when you bring up
[8:55] Rodri, I don't think I look at that and I see Rodri.
[8:59] I don't see Kovacic playing bad. He just got an assist.
[9:01] He had a brace a couple weeks ago so I don't know.
[9:04] I can't for me starting a youngster like Simpson pussy
[9:08] when you need a win. By the way, crazy name.
[9:11] Slanderous. Name did he start him?
[9:12] He didn't start him, he started. Starting sporting, yeah.
[9:15] And he started on the on the weekend.
[9:17] He started on the weekend when Akanji's on the bench.
[9:20] For me that doesn't make sense when your team is in need of a
[9:22] win starting. Defensively, they have not been
[9:25] good. They've been leaking goals left
[9:27] and right. Which is uncharacteristic.
[9:29] It is, but when you look at it, I mean Ruben Diaz, Akanji and
[9:32] Guardio and both of them are like, well, Kanji and Guardo are
[9:36] both going up. It leaves some gaps in in the
[9:38] back. But we've never seen this.
[9:40] We've never seen like instability.
[9:43] I, I, I think it's rodgery. It has to be.
[9:46] I'm saying it's rodgery because Rodger was affecting the game in
[9:48] ways we didn't see like the, the, the play almost didn't, the
[9:51] counter almost didn't. But did you see how sport team
[9:53] was playing through their their team breaking out through the
[9:56] side, coming right back into the midfield, the center backs
[9:59] looking, looking at them like countering what's happening?
[10:01] I I think we're also overreacting a bit, like if
[10:04] Holland was finishing at his normal rate that he normally
[10:06] does, I think they would have a couple wins between these games.
[10:10] So they conceded four goals. Yeah, these scorelines when?
[10:12] When did man? City, yeah, but that's Ruben
[10:14] Amarim, bro. That's you're talking about the
[10:15] the goat right there. Like, that's not a normal game.
[10:18] Like Ruben Amarim, Ruben Amarim Sporting.
[10:21] That's like a whole different monster, by the way, coming to
[10:24] Manchester United soon, is he? No, I'm.
[10:27] Not exactly, I must have missed that new cycle, but I.
[10:30] Gotta watch the emergency pod but like.
[10:33] Losing grip of this game against Brighton is unacceptable because
[10:37] I get Michelle Pedro came off the bench.
[10:38] That's a good, very good player to come off the bench.
[10:40] But it's a team like Brighton. I'm hearing top four shots for
[10:43] Brighton I don't see. Anything like they're not good?
[10:45] I don't see top four, I don't see European spots to be honest
[10:48] for. Brighton, I see them top six to
[10:49] be honest. They have an excellent team,
[10:51] bro, they have the. Gap is by the way, I the gap in
[10:54] the the the Premier League between top and very nice to
[10:56] see. Well, Liverpool is getting a bit
[10:58] of a gap up there, but but from 3rd to 12th I think, or 11th,
[11:02] it's 4, four points. That's crazy.
[11:05] Yeah, that it's extremely competitive right now.
[11:07] Liverpool's running away with it.
[11:08] But Manchester City, I don't know.
[11:11] Do you start asking questions as to like, do we start benching
[11:14] these guys? I I know like an early Holland,
[11:16] you would think we do not. We make sure he's Yeah, I know.
[11:20] But you have to kind of make a statement here.
[11:21] I'm sorry. No but no, but listen I'm not
[11:23] saying bench Holland but like there are alternatives like Man
[11:27] City back in the day didn't used to play games without a striker.
[11:29] Like you could try phone false 9.
[11:30] He's done that exactly. So you it's not like you can't
[11:33] say like and I'm not saying you should bench home because you
[11:36] definitely shouldn't. That's that shouldn't be.
[11:39] But that's not yeah, that's not gonna resolve.
[11:40] Anything. That's the solution, but they're
[11:42] need. PEP needs to do something to.
[11:44] Change a formation. Change a formation.
[11:46] Maybe, maybe, maybe. Okay, Rodri injured.
[11:51] We're missing a bit of that defensive solidity that Rodri
[11:54] offered because Rodri can basically play a one man
[11:56] midfield by himself, destroys counters every two seconds like
[12:00] he's prime Conte and then dishes the ball like he's bousquettes.
[12:03] So we lost that. Maybe we can start playing 2
[12:05] deep midfielders now play A4231 instead of the 433 they.
[12:09] Tried it. But it's.
[12:10] But the difference is that they. Tried it the Rico Lewis Kovacic.
[12:12] Yeah, they're starting Kovacic. It was.
[12:14] The Rico No, because Rico Lewis starts at right back.
[12:17] He moves into midfield so it's still a 3/2.
[12:19] But at one point, Walker was there and Rico Lewis was in the
[12:22] midfield for like. Walker too, he has been
[12:24] horrendous. He's not a player for yeah, he's
[12:27] been. Horrendous this season.
[12:28] He's gotta go. He's it's time to go.
[12:30] His his physicality, this God brother's finished.
[12:33] Like I think he's still valuable in in a game where it's like you
[12:35] need an experienced fullback to ISO a good winger.
[12:38] I actually saw and can you guys think of think of one?
[12:42] Also, Walker might be one of the only clubs in the world where
[12:46] the club captain is the worst player.
[12:50] Milan, like just a year ago. Yeah, but now I'm saying, oh,
[12:53] he's still, he's still. Well, I don't know, Emerson.
[12:56] There's been, there's been some bad, I don't know.
[12:57] How you guys replace the worst player in your team with the
[13:00] worst player in your team? He's actually.
[13:02] Not been that bad to be honest. He.
[13:03] Hasn't been. He's still a meme though, but
[13:05] still a. Meme locked up the.
[13:06] Ones the ones I saw, the ones I saw compared to him are Emery
[13:10] Chan at Dortmund and he's. Not that bad.
[13:13] Bro he's been terrible this season.
[13:15] Terrible, terrible Neuer at Bayern.
[13:18] Neuer fell off hard. Yeah, but he's still.
[13:21] Terstein at Barsa up. There not bad.
[13:24] And there was one more I can't think about.
[13:26] But yeah, the fact that Kyle Walker's club captain.
[13:29] And if I don't know, I don't know if you guys know Kyle
[13:31] Walker off the field, like some of the stuff he's gotten into,
[13:34] like a. Whole another family.
[13:35] Yeah, exactly. So he does not seem like a
[13:38] Montana football. Let's say the example that the
[13:40] squad should be setting. But it's different on the pitch,
[13:43] your outside life, I mean. Imagine her personal.
[13:46] Affairs. But on the pitch, there's
[13:47] leaders and. Leaders should be exemplary,
[13:49] like Brother. Danilo Danilo's you went to
[13:52] captain at sometimes. That's up there sometimes.
[13:55] By the way, Paula, top five Syria defender, he said that was
[13:58] no. You said before this summer, you
[14:01] went into the summer saying he's a top five.
[14:04] You said yeah, was. Am I lying here?
[14:06] He went into the Somerset. He was in the prior Boston Bro
[14:10] I. Don't know, lips exported.
[14:12] Yeah, you know right now, bro. And but see, he's a he's a good
[14:15] example of a guy that I want as my captain, but I don't want
[14:18] playing. Yeah.
[14:19] But then, but then Kyle Walker, I think then Man City should be
[14:23] at a point where, OK, you kind of open the door for him and you
[14:26] say, oh, your, your service was great.
[14:28] We appreciate it. Got to move on now.
[14:30] What's crazy about this Man City, let's say, beginning of
[14:35] the season woes is that it feels they feel a lot more vulnerable
[14:40] than the seasons before. Like every season, Man City are
[14:42] slow out of the gate, but they're still in the title race
[14:45] and you say, OK, they're going to wake up with Rhodri out for
[14:49] the year. With Rhodri out for the year,
[14:52] it's kind of like, are these brothers actually going to be in
[14:56] a title race come the end of the season?
[14:57] Yes they will. It's more like, you know that
[15:00] they're going to be top three, but how?
[15:01] What's that gap like? Well, Liverpool do not fall off.
[15:04] We're going to talk about them later, but if they don't fall
[15:06] off, the the race is determined by Liverpool.
[15:08] Like, it's not like City cannot run away with it.
[15:11] It's Liverpool. 'S the protagonist.
[15:12] Exactly. So yeah.
[15:13] Five point gap, I believe 29 to 24 I think is the gap.
[15:17] So five points already at this point.
[15:19] The season's a pretty big gap and it's not looking like Man
[15:22] City are going to get better. They only look like it's not
[15:26] looking. It's not looking like we get
[15:27] back from international break and Man City are going to win
[15:29] eight in a row. No, of course not.
[15:29] It's not looking like that. In January, I feel like they
[15:31] need some reinforcements, like they're going to bring in yeah,
[15:34] someone just to maybe get them more.
[15:36] Balanced the issue with the issue with reinforcements is
[15:39] that the players that can replace Rodri realistically, and
[15:44] this is not saying that one for one I'm saying like profile wise
[15:48] are going to cost 4050 mil and as soon as Rodri comes back it's
[15:51] like Calvin Phillips situation. They bought Calvin Phillips for
[15:54] 50 mil to play back up to Rodri. He just never ended up playing
[15:56] once Rodri was healthy. True, and but now you're buying
[15:59] a guy for the rest of the season.
[16:00] Yeah, but exactly you're spending 50 mil on someone for
[16:02] six months when if you go into the loan market, you're not
[16:05] going to find ACDM that can play like Rodri?
[16:07] I think Kovacic can stay in that role.
[16:09] I'd rather find other players. I'd rather find a fullback.
[16:12] Hmm. Govardio's not losing his place.
[16:15] He's been, he's actually been, I would say City's best player
[16:17] City. Needs a right back bad.
[16:18] Well, he scored some crucial goals for them, bro.
[16:20] Rico Lewis has shown to be kind of undroppable for Pep.
[16:24] Is he a midfield or is he a full back?
[16:26] But. He's very good at that full
[16:28] back, that's why. I'm saying in pep kind of needs
[16:31] to change the way he needs to get more pragmatic in my
[16:34] personal opinion right now. And I'm not saying turn to 10
[16:37] Hogs style of play where in games where they we had bad
[16:40] form, we would legit just 30% possession no matter who we're
[16:43] playing and just hoof the ball up.
[16:45] But I'm saying you do not need to play I.
[16:47] Can locally agree with that same involver the the like Pep needs
[16:50] to play more pragmatic 'cause he's playing this he's he never
[16:52] changes his open style of football and he's conceded to
[16:55] basically I have 'cause I have Ederson in FPL like I'm I follow
[16:59] those brothers clean sheets, but they're they're always.
[17:01] Considered barely any clean sheets.
[17:02] They're conceding versus shit teams.
[17:04] I mean teams that still score goals nonetheless, but still
[17:07] City has never shown that vulnerability defensively.
[17:09] And this season it's it looks one of the worst, and I'm sure
[17:11] it's. Even a mentality thing now, like
[17:13] you're getting fragile, you teams know that defensively
[17:16] you're not as good as you were like last season for example,
[17:19] so. Teams are coming into games like
[17:21] with the idea that they could actually get a result, which is
[17:23] completely different to years past where brother, if you were,
[17:27] you're not going, if you were a Newcastle, if you were a
[17:30] Brighton going in 2-3 years ago, you know, it's like, OK, we're
[17:33] dropping points or something. Bro, I don't want to jump the
[17:34] gun, but like Juventus, when we were at our we were at our glory
[17:38] period. It took a long time, but at
[17:40] certain points it was like when we used to lose to a a shit
[17:44] team. Like like we used to lose to a
[17:45] team that we haven't lost to in 20 years.
[17:46] It was always the stat. Like everyone was coming out to
[17:48] play versus Juventus because they were the biggest team for
[17:51] this from my experience. And then slowly, slowly those
[17:53] losses to those shit teams started getting more and more
[17:55] common. And it wasn't like we didn't
[17:57] lose. It hasn't been 20 years since we
[17:59] lost to them. It was.
[18:00] And and let's let's kick off like you're gonna bring the
[18:02] Juventus, which I think is a is a good parallel what kicked off
[18:05] the Juventus kind of downfall. Ish that's difficult.
[18:09] It got it got it got it got expedited by COVID, but.
[18:12] It started with the financial irregularities that they found,
[18:16] I think no. No, it started with Ronaldo.
[18:17] It started with Ronaldo. That was the beginning of the
[18:20] end because you were, you were not investing in your future,
[18:22] you were investing in Ronaldo and you wanted like sales,
[18:25] jersey sales and all that, but that was like hundreds of
[18:27] millions. I just, I, I just want to bring
[18:30] up that the last 2-3 years there has been a slight decline in man
[18:37] cities. I would say, well, I wouldn't
[18:38] say three years because that's when they won the treble, but
[18:40] like from that treble low key, Man City have not been this
[18:44] flawless football operation that everyone likes to think of them.
[18:47] They've let they've let superstars fall out, fall out of
[18:49] their cracks. Who?
[18:50] Cole Palmer. So that's like 1 generational
[18:53] superstar, not generational, but a superstar that you let out of
[18:56] your cracks. And then on top of that you have
[18:58] the 115 charges like looming over your head.
[19:03] Peps contracts coming up pretty soon.
[19:06] The football director just just retired and they got sporting
[19:11] director of football. Like it's not looking like Man
[19:14] City are the same Man City as 2-3 years ago.
[19:17] It's a completely different operation.
[19:19] Transitionary period, yeah. But with transition comes risk
[19:22] of that you never transition into a into this.
[19:24] And and who's to say that PEP, which is I would say the most
[19:28] important part of the if PEP goes, I am not saying Man City,
[19:32] our title, our title favorite. Oh bro, we said that about club.
[19:36] Yeah, but I don't, I think. There's a difference.
[19:38] Yeah, I think there's a difference because Pep has won
[19:40] trophy after trophy after trophy a treble it Manchester United,
[19:44] for example. It's very tough to recover from
[19:46] losing such an A staple of your football and culture, your for
[19:50] your building, your locker room, everything.
[19:53] So it really depends that it's going to be inevitable Pep will
[19:57] leave eventually. It's finding that right
[19:58] replacement. But I do agree with Varvar, it's
[20:00] that. It's almost like the honeymoon
[20:02] phase is kind of over, kind of. It's kind of like, OK, what
[20:05] happens now? And so it's a little daunting.
[20:08] And some of Pep's quotes are kind of getting a bit as if I
[20:11] were a Man City fan, they would be worrying because it kind of
[20:14] sounds like he's like done or. Checked out a little, yeah, not
[20:18] gonna lie. So.
[20:19] Why he shows up? The press conference is very
[20:21] frustrated. Like he's like screw you.
[20:23] Like he's giving very regret. He's not saying screw.
[20:25] You. I'm sure he's losing sleep over
[20:27] these losses. I'm not even.
[20:28] He, he's very frustrated and even even when he's asked
[20:33] questions about his contract situation, like he doesn't
[20:35] address it really like he, he kind of goes around I think.
[20:38] We're being reactionary as a whole, but I think even when it
[20:41] gets back to normal, there will still be under the the things
[20:45] we're saying have underlining meaning that I think will stay
[20:47] regardless of the Man City form. As a Man City fan, if you exist
[20:51] out there, I would be worried about the future because it's
[20:53] definitely looming. It's definitely looming.
[20:55] You have a lot of talent, but it is an aging team.
[20:57] It doesn't. And then the commentator said it
[21:00] at one point and he's like, but this is an aging Man City.
[21:02] And I was like, this is not an aging Man City.
[21:05] And then I started. Thinking KDBKDB, Rodri, Rodri
[21:08] after this injury you don't like.
[21:10] I'm not saying you can't say go into next season where Roger has
[21:13] your star, you definitely are, but.
[21:15] Like how old? Like a.
[21:16] Stones like. Yeah, like.
[21:18] Stones, Kyle Walker. Kyle Walker was a pillar of your
[21:21] team. How old Ederson wanted to leave
[21:22] Tile National this summer. Yeah, but then you have the
[21:25] youngsters like Foden Doku, or youngsters, you know, they're
[21:28] younger, established. But is Doku, like everyone
[21:31] brings up Dovio and he's a very good player, but Doku is not a
[21:35] building block of your team. He's not a player that you pin
[21:38] down the left wing spot and you say oh, that's his for the next
[21:42] decade. I just don't see a lot of
[21:45] promising players. But like, it wasn't like that
[21:48] 2015 City where it's like they brought in a young Raheem
[21:51] Sterling, they brought in a young they.
[21:53] Didn't miss on transfer they missed.
[21:54] But now they're missing from Monaco.
[21:56] Leroy, Son. They're missing on transfers
[21:58] now, like the Jack Greilish and the miss, the Calvin Phillips.
[22:01] Those are misses that you're they're not.
[22:04] It's not. And Matthias Nunez, decent
[22:06] player but 52,000,000. Ages Kovich, 30, Gundagan 34
[22:10] Bernardo 30 KDB over the Gundagan.
[22:12] That came back from Barcelona is not the same Gundagan that.
[22:14] Left at all? So I don't know, Man City this
[22:18] year, just this year just feels different.
[22:20] It's a different field and even beginning of the end.
[22:22] Almost, yeah. And add on KDB to that with his
[22:24] contract maybe in the MLS. San Diego FC, please join that.
[22:29] Well, optimal would be Montreal, but yeah, I don't know if that
[22:32] never had that bad. French speaking French.
[22:33] Baby, baby baguette and. We speak English so we got we
[22:36] got drug, but only just because we were a French speaking city.
[22:39] But literally. Andreas, our manager, that,
[22:40] yeah, yeah. And then listen, Holland, if he
[22:43] sees all his brothers leaving, who's to say that no, Barcelona,
[22:46] Real Madrid don't come calling? There's always those links,
[22:48] there's. Always going to be links
[22:49] brother. As soon as Pep's gone, bro.
[22:50] Barcelona might have to liquidate their entire Club I.
[22:53] Think they would. They would.
[22:54] Both to create back that rivalry.
[22:56] No, I think if he left it would be to replace when Kane leaves
[22:59] Bayern or something like that. I think it wouldn't be.
[23:01] I think he'd go to Bayern over a Barcelona Bayern.
[23:03] No, I don't know. I I just don't see Holland in 10
[23:07] years. Manchester United, I take him, I
[23:10] take him. I don't even care.
[23:11] Yeah, I, I, yeah, I guess I would take Colin, I guess.
[23:14] But Roman Man United, I would take him.
[23:16] Listen, there's a lot to discuss in Manchester City.
[23:19] It's we'll see how it develops over the season, like how that
[23:21] goes. But the marquee game today,
[23:24] fellas, was Arsenal, Chelsea. We had some buddies of ours
[23:28] actually at the game too but ends up one one bit of a
[23:31] stalemate. Couple chances here, a couple
[23:33] chances there. What did you guys think?
[23:34] Overall, I think it was an entertaining match despite the
[23:37] offsides. I mean the stats probably won't
[23:38] tell you that it was an entertaining game, but watching
[23:41] it was pretty good. There was you definitely saw the
[23:42] rivalry. I haven't seen players that
[23:44] passionate in a minute. A little feisty.
[23:46] Pedro Neto was pissing me off because that brother is a like
[23:49] just a rat. I'm sorry, a rat and then
[23:51] scoring on top of it just made me even hate him even more.
[23:54] But like bro brothers like Quesado.
[23:56] I've never seen quesado that, like my brother was playing
[23:59] South American football. Well, it's 'cause he, he had the
[24:01] Captain's arm band today. Yeah, so, well, I think he gave
[24:03] him that. He took that shit to James.
[24:05] I, I saw he, it's the gimmick was so funny. 1st minute not not
[24:10] even a minute in, he tackled someone and started hyping up
[24:13] the crowd like let's go, let's. Go hype, you can tell like.
[24:15] It's the first minute bro, like. Come down, you see his I think
[24:19] it was a counter. I don't know who was on but like
[24:20] he put in like a long range slight tackle. 5050 got UPS
[24:23] celebrated but the brothers at half field.
[24:25] Yeah, he, he's been very good. Yeah, Now he was good today.
[24:29] Honestly, there's a conversation that he might be up there as one
[24:31] of the best DMS in the world. Like very slowly, he's creeping
[24:34] up. Today you have to pick chuomeni
[24:37] or kaiseto who you picking like? The thing is that Chuomeni is
[24:40] more established. Let's see.
[24:41] But honestly? Like I could trust.
[24:43] Chuomeni this season, you could just season Kaiseto.
[24:45] It's I, I, I think yeah, you'll be putting name.
[24:48] You'll be just basing it off of name tags if you're not saying
[24:50] Kaiseto right now. But I did see I I think this was
[24:53] some shitty source on Twitter, but I did see Chuomeni to
[24:55] Liverpool as a possibility. Real Madrid fans have not been
[24:58] happy with him. Yeah.
[24:59] But look, even though, is there a team in the world that's ready
[25:02] to dish out the 100 million that's probably needed to get
[25:04] true many out of Real Madrid? That's the thing, Liverpool
[25:06] could probably spend the freaking.
[25:08] Don't know that's a lie. No, that's actually not true.
[25:10] No, they've spent. They were in for Moises Kaiseto
[25:12] for for 100 million when he left Chelsea.
[25:15] I think they were just running the front of.
[25:16] Years. It's like it's like a regular
[25:18] box to box, no? Auction.
[25:19] Yeah. Liverpool.
[25:19] Liverpool's one club. Liverpool's one club that don't
[25:23] really miss on transfers. There was one Sobo's Lie I think
[25:26] that we consider miss, but Jack, Jack PO 40 million or 35,000,000
[25:31] is not a miss. Yeah, but that's a 35 million to
[25:34] for that player sit on the bench.
[25:35] That's good. Yes.
[25:36] Nunez, I would say more Nunez and Sobo's lie are two where
[25:39] they're like, I don't know about that one, but they have a new
[25:43] transfer director in that that made their Champions League
[25:45] squad the first time. I think he beefed a bit with
[25:48] Klopp after he built that first Champions League team.
[25:50] He went built his own data company that ended up being a
[25:54] very successful data company. And then he came back this
[25:57] summer and then they had this summer that well, they didn't
[25:59] really buy anyone this summer. They bought Memoir Dashili,
[26:01] which is a pretty good timing, but.
[26:04] Keisa. Yeah, I they don't miss on
[26:06] transfers. Keisa Stinky.
[26:08] Most of you? He hasn't really.
[26:10] Played to me, but yeah, Arsenal, I have one question OK, because
[26:14] I was speaking to our our editor.
[26:15] Our YouTube editor is an Arsenal fan and I ask them this question
[26:19] now. If Arteta doesn't bring home a
[26:22] trophy this season or he keeps playing this style and you guys
[26:25] are more in a top 4 battle than a title, how how long does he
[26:29] get Like does he get the whole season like?
[26:32] I think he gets at least a season.
[26:34] There's listen, I'm, I am now I'm on to the understanding that
[26:39] this guy is not a new, It's not a new project with Arteta.
[26:42] People have this understanding that it's just a new.
[26:45] It's still a young project. Let it develop, brother.
[26:48] It's been how many years now? Yeah, it's been too many years.
[26:51] It's phase four. It's Lacazette, brother.
[26:52] Lacazette feels like 10 years ago.
[26:55] Yeah, Ken, Shout out to our editor, Ken.
[26:57] He was telling me that, oh, you remember where we were under
[27:02] Wenger? Like, look at where he brought
[27:04] us. Yeah, but you've been here for
[27:05] two years now. It's just stagnation.
[27:08] And honestly, not even stagnation.
[27:09] I feel like the first year you guys hit here, second year was a
[27:13] bit of a downgrade and now it just feels like it's like.
[27:15] Honeymoon. The honeymoon ran out.
[27:17] Like Millie was saying, your best.
[27:18] Chance at a title, the closest you got to a title, I feel,
[27:20] because you're two seasons ago and then last year you got
[27:23] close, but it wasn't like final day close.
[27:26] And then this year, it looks like you're not even going to
[27:27] end up close at all. Well, what's The thing is at the
[27:30] beginning of the season, I think the conversation wasn't like it
[27:33] was mainly like City Arsenal, who's like, well, Arsenal
[27:36] finally have now all the pieces to compete with City.
[27:39] But listen, things are getting turned on their head every day
[27:42] now. Liverpool is five points ahead.
[27:44] The the, the, the dialect is different, not not dialect
[27:48] mixing. Yeah, the dialogue is is a lot
[27:51] different now and I think that should be applied with Arsenal
[27:53] as well. Arteta, do you fire him on the
[27:56] spot? No.
[27:57] Should you wait till the end of the season and evaluate?
[28:00] I feel like it's a little bit of a.
[28:01] Risk. I'm not saying, I'm not saying
[28:02] right now it's a soccer total over the international break so
[28:05] you can get the manager to come in and he has two weeks with
[28:08] Scott. I'm just saying that let's say
[28:10] Arsenal keep getting dragged into this top 4, potentially top
[28:14] six race because of how close the Premier League is.
[28:17] You have to start looking at options like a Naglesman that
[28:20] are that could be considered somewhat available that you know
[28:24] are top level managers. So you would you would consider
[28:26] these options only like if you miss out on a top four or like
[28:29] what's your, what are you expecting from Arsenal now this
[28:32] year? Well, the expectations going
[28:34] into the season where Arsenal have on paper, and everyone can
[28:39] agree with this, that Arsenal have a top three, top four
[28:41] player in the Prem at every single one of the position.
[28:43] Now we're good. Now we're good.
[28:44] No, but I'm saying when. When it's an Arsenal fan saying
[28:47] that we have good player quality it's like Nah bro you just
[28:50] overrated. This is shit.
[28:51] That's shit and no. One, no one's gonna say that
[28:53] Sack is on a top three winger in the Premier right wing.
[28:56] Firms would probably. Say no, not in the.
[28:58] Well, Palmer salad are the only ones that you can really say are
[29:00] clear. Slide and fold in two.
[29:04] There's actually a conversation, but let's say no top five.
[29:06] Team my boy, but like. Harvard it's even someone that
[29:09] is not that good let's. Say too bro.
[29:11] No, but like I really guess. How he's there comparing like
[29:15] he's not Holland, he's not exact, I would say or he's more
[29:18] in the Solanke tier and I'd say he's below, but like better than
[29:21] that's a top four. Maybe he's like even better.
[29:24] He's actually, well, he's acts better but like I'm I'm saying,
[29:27] I'm saying Arsenal have a squad to compete and that's not a
[29:30] reason anymore for Arteta defensively too.
[29:33] Bro, he competes in the Premier League.
[29:35] Let's let's. And the football's not getting
[29:36] prettier. Let's just, let's just
[29:38] acknowledge that right now. That Arsenal from two years ago,
[29:42] you could say, Oh my God, they're actually getting kind of
[29:44] close to Pep. With the building an identity.
[29:46] Yeah. And then now.
[29:49] There's no identity, of course. Identity, bro.
[29:51] There is an. Identity copy and paste.
[29:53] How? It's what's different about it.
[29:56] What's the same about it? You guys, there's a reason why
[29:59] you guys can't catch up catch up to Man City is because you guys
[30:01] are caught our. Identity is, is is touchline,
[30:04] touchline wingers in swinging crosses.
[30:06] That's that's, that's Arsenal's identity.
[30:08] But it's. Been patched.
[30:09] It's getting patched. It's been patched.
[30:11] And you don't have a, you don't have a nine.
[30:12] So like you're in, you're in swinging these crosses to
[30:14] haverts. Haverts can't finish what he
[30:16] could finish but. I've I've I actually, I saw this
[30:19] tweet where Arteta's attackers that he's purchased, I think
[30:24] he's missed on every single one other than Troshard.
[30:27] I'll give Troshard, but Sterling?
[30:30] He bought haverts. It's not really expensive.
[30:33] Those aren't those aren't marquee signings.
[30:35] But they're attacker signings. OK, they're just they're they're
[30:37] signings. But we never.
[30:39] Wanted Sterling to be a starter, yeah.
[30:41] Wouldn't buy Sterling to be a. Starter OK, but.
[30:42] Go on, I'm gonna, I'm gonna look up this list because I I don't
[30:44] remember them off the top of my head.
[30:45] We need a nine. That's that's the main thing is
[30:47] if Arsenal don't get a nine in January, yeah, maybe you will
[30:51] make it through the season, but you need one in the summer.
[30:54] I don't know who you would get in the in the winter though.
[30:55] But we need to go finish last summer.
[30:57] Go finish. Was a.
[30:58] Summer Full list of attackers Arteta signed in the last five
[31:01] years Willian, Marquinos. Gabriel Jesus.
[31:05] Trosard, Sterling on loan. Haverts.
[31:08] Gabriel Zeus was a very good striker for us.
[31:11] First season, yes. And he's been Deadwood since
[31:14] that first season injured. Yeah, but he's Deadwood now.
[31:17] Like Gabriel Jesus right now is Deadwood, Yes.
[31:20] And he's like making 200 KA week.
[31:22] But because that's that's coming off a Man City contractor,
[31:24] that's coming off. These are investments from the
[31:25] past. But that's under his like,
[31:28] that's under his tenure. I agree, bro.
[31:31] I agree with these things. I'm I'm gonna go back to what
[31:33] you're asking about Artera, the, the Premier League.
[31:36] I've had no problem with his performance in Premier League.
[31:37] He was going band for band with Pep Guardiola that probably was
[31:40] managing at that point like two seasons ago, like the best, the
[31:44] one of the best teams I've ever seen in the Premier League.
[31:46] So he's going band for band with that, which is insane.
[31:49] But the Champions League is what I'm pissed about because nothing
[31:52] is convincing in the Champions League playing versus Inter.
[31:55] Whatever we're we're missing, we're going to talk about that
[31:57] after. But this goes back to even last
[31:59] season. No matter who Arteta was
[32:02] playing, if the other team had a little bit of guile, it was it
[32:04] was just not a convincing win. PSG 220 I'm.
[32:07] Gonna be real, bro. I'm gonna be real bro.
[32:09] That was a shit game, bro. I'm I'm gonna be real.
[32:11] That was not a not. You guys dominated.
[32:13] We dominated but PSG did not look good.
[32:15] Yeah, it's like, and PSG like got dominated by Girona.
[32:18] Like PSG are not a barometer this year.
[32:22] They're not. They're not is a barometer,
[32:23] Yeah. And if you want to be considered
[32:24] one of the best teams and you want to consider yourself one of
[32:26] the best managers, Arteta, you should be a lot more convincing
[32:29] versus Inter because Inter didn't start and I'm defending
[32:33] them, but it's it's. Bro okay and now so now
[32:36] obviously the season not off to the greatest start.
[32:39] What can they change? Like they can go in the transfer
[32:41] market, they can, let's say look at their youth Academy, they
[32:45] can. Start winery start.
[32:48] But now that odegard's back, I don't know if starting in Aries
[32:51] like. Does it need to be a creator?
[32:53] Did you see where Odegard? You guys saw where Odegard was
[32:55] playing today? Like kind of.
[32:56] Right wing. Almost.
[32:56] Right wing, but in that half space, like kind of next to Saca
[33:01] but not where Saca is. Saca was even playing more
[33:03] inside and Odegard outside. You know those little like chips
[33:06] he was doing over the top. That's fine.
[33:07] Keep Odegard there and winery can be more essential.
[33:09] Bro did you see the? Do you see the way this guy
[33:11] moves with the ball? Yeah, but that's something.
[33:13] Who do you take? Out of that, Mikkel Moreno, if
[33:15] you're taking that. Mikkel Moreno, yeah.
[33:16] But he's not a starter. He's not a starter.
[33:18] He is a starter. Mikkel Moreno.
[33:19] No, he's not. You got then.
[33:21] RT or Mikkel Moreno? Which one?
[33:22] RT was. Good today, but.
[33:24] You guys have been starting both at the same time.
[33:26] Well, at some points we're starting all three of them.
[33:28] Yeah, Marino party and Rice and I want.
[33:29] Them maybe maybe the issue with Arteta is that he's not flexible
[33:32] enough. Like he needs to understand that
[33:34] a party Declan Rice midfield is good for some games.
[33:37] Others you need to have a more attacking minded midfield.
[33:40] You know what I mean? Yeah, because these are two DMS
[33:42] in in essence, if you maybe add like, I don't know, Miko Marino,
[33:45] I would say is also Adm. You see the issue maybe is also
[33:48] depth they're lacking like a. Box A box for for Mikkel.
[33:52] They could do that but then you have two DMS me like.
[33:54] Spanish. You you know, Mikkel Arteta has
[33:57] and it's obvious through all of his signings that all his
[34:00] midfielders are above 6 foot three.
[34:02] Like they they, there's a physical profile like they said
[34:05] with signings, yes. And look, I'm not saying that's
[34:08] bad, but brother, after you already have Gabrielle, you
[34:11] already have Saliba, you already have Declan Rice, how many more
[34:14] demons on set pieces you need? You don't need 12.
[34:16] You don't need all eleven people to be above the average to six
[34:20] foot 3I. Wouldn't say that's a problem at
[34:21] all. You actually want a taller team
[34:23] if the players are good. I'm I'm not saying that these
[34:27] players don't exist like Paul Pugba exists, but it's a
[34:29] Unicorn. You need a player that's going
[34:31] to open up the defense. That's not Odegard or Saka.
[34:34] Like the left side is completely neglected.
[34:36] That's true. And Martinelli is not the same
[34:38] player as he was two years ago. Let's just address the let's
[34:41] just address the elephant in the room.
[34:43] The brother is not the same player as he was to use.
[34:45] I'm not saying he's a useless player, but he's just not the 25
[34:49] goals and assist player that he. Was, I know, but he's still
[34:51] useful. Yeah, I'm not, I said.
[34:53] He's useful. Very useful, but like today we
[34:54] saw that like. He's not a core player.
[34:56] Anymore. Yeah, I agree bro.
[34:58] Just imagine like a Jeremy Doku instead of a Martinelli in that
[35:00] position. I see a a cavada dona in there.
[35:03] Yes, left. Hand but yeah, I'm seeing having
[35:05] a threat from both wings, having a threat from both wings
[35:07] completely changes it because like Inter, we get Arsenal.
[35:10] Last thing about Arsenal, they get into this repetitive pattern
[35:12] of play. Yeah, that becomes so
[35:14] predictable. And passes out.
[35:16] Trying to break but without Odegard versus.
[35:17] That's what I'm saying Inter bro Inzagi figured it out.
[35:21] It was figured it out. It was very like very
[35:23] calculated. You kind of know OK where
[35:24] they're going to be. What's the?
[35:25] But let's be honest with you, your your defender stood in
[35:28] their head. Bisek had one of the best center
[35:29] back matches I've seen in a minute bro bro.
[35:32] I'll take that. We might as well talk about it.
[35:34] We're edging it. We could, we could get into the
[35:36] Champions League. Listen, the over the overarching
[35:39] theme here is that English teams in the Champions League,
[35:42] especially this week, have not done well.
[35:45] Man City 41 Arsenal 1 nothing loss.
[35:48] The only good team was Liverpool 4 nothing.
[35:51] They showed that they were the leaders.
[35:54] Listen there. There's stuff that needs to be
[35:56] fixed here with the English. English teams mainly.
[35:58] I've been saying this about English teams.
[36:00] The Premier League has talent but is not technical in any
[36:04] sense. Seria is the best technical
[36:05] league in the world and I stand by that.
[36:07] If you look historically though, the English teams make it
[36:10] further since Champions League. They don't bro, they take an
[36:13] average. Pep and club do because they are
[36:16] not Premier League managers. What was that success elsewhere
[36:19] in the average? Of teams?
[36:22] Well, no, that's just. Don't make up facts fiber,
[36:24] you're about to. Make up I'm not.
[36:25] If you take an average of the top teams, we make it the
[36:28] furthest. I think maybe in the.
[36:30] Because of Man City and and Liverpool.
[36:32] What they don't OK, so I'll take out from the Bundesliga, take
[36:34] out Bercha Dorman and take out the Bayern Munich and then let's
[36:37] calculate. The Did I say Bundesliga was
[36:38] good and. For for, let's take out Inter
[36:41] and let's take out Milan and then let's calculate the Syria.
[36:44] We would still be broke. Roma technically based on
[36:46] coefficient, European coefficient is at six team in
[36:48] the world. Brother 6 best team in the
[36:49] world. Because they won Europa League.
[36:51] It's not. Has nothing to do with you.
[36:52] We're talking about Seattle. Talking about I'm talking about
[36:54] teams in Europe. Italian teams are the hardest
[36:56] teams to play versus and La Liga teams.
[36:58] That are not English teams. Bro Aston Villa lost to Club
[37:02] Bridge. You're using one.
[37:04] You're using one off, one off game.
[37:06] City loss of sport team. You're using one off game.
[37:08] Oh, you're like right Before this match week in Seattle, the
[37:11] top three teams were all English.
[37:12] So why are you using one match week to determine seven years of
[37:16] history? But then why are you using three
[37:18] match games That what, three match games in the Champions
[37:21] League so far to determine all the top three were the top three
[37:23] were English, That that's they're the best in the world
[37:25] because it's 3? Samples here, Millie, I'll teach
[37:28] you about that. A sample size.
[37:30] A sample size of stupid Gopan. A sample people size of three is
[37:34] bigger than a sample size of 1. So your stats are more.
[37:38] What about the team? From what about Brighton?
[37:40] Less than one what? About all these teams that lose
[37:42] every amount of trophies won but.
[37:44] You see the issue, You see the issue, you see the issue is the
[37:47] issue issue is. Why did we get the most English
[37:50] team? Yeah, get the most when?
[37:51] The English teams beat other leagues.
[37:53] We don't remember it because it's just a normal occurrence.
[37:56] He doesn't like a lot. He does not a start.
[37:59] When teams like serious, when teams like Fiorentina beat
[38:01] Brighton, you ought to automatically go back to it
[38:04] because it's like, Oh my But you cannot you.
[38:08] You need so tell me when a Syria team beat the Premier League
[38:10] team? When a a Premier League team
[38:12] beat a Syria team. Maybe I it's just I don't
[38:14] remember it. Wow, you don't remember because
[38:16] it doesn't happen much. Yeah, sure.
[38:18] I'm telling you, it doesn't happen.
[38:19] Europa League in conference. So let's talk about stats.
[38:21] Let's talk about stats. Oh, you know what's bigger than
[38:23] three? The six games Arsenal played in
[38:25] Italy and haven't scored a single bowl.
[38:27] Let's talk about stats. We'll talk about stats.
[38:30] Let's talk about stats, Bro. What?
[38:31] Happened well. Arsenal Arsenal have not scored
[38:33] on Italian soil in about six games.
[38:36] Brother 00000 I'm telling you what's 6?
[38:41] Games I would like to know because I know Atlanta Juventus
[38:44] intern Juventus, they play Juventus.
[38:46] Brother, I'm telling. You get involved.
[38:48] I'm telling you, yeah, this is English teams in Italy.
[38:51] Fair. Very, very poorly.
[38:53] Well, listen well, Man City. Also you you guys had a clean
[38:56] sheet with? Them you could, you could go
[38:57] back 20 years, 25 years to find the odd stat, yeah, of English
[39:02] teams versus Italian teams. It's very story.
[39:05] There's a clear tactical difference between the English
[39:07] teams and the Italian. Team and and you get dominated
[39:09] and don't listen to us, brother. Listen to the coaches, listen to
[39:12] Arteta saying right after the Atlanta game, Atlanta play, man.
[39:17] Like as if it's like some novel idea.
[39:19] Oh well, we can't play this. Way there was that conversation
[39:22] all week about Italian teams playing manta manta man and like
[39:25] struggling to defend that and at the.
[39:27] Last second, I mean, if it's worth anything, he's a Syria
[39:30] manager. But he did say playing, playing
[39:32] in yeah, this is extremely difficult compared to
[39:34] experience. And listen, that's not anything,
[39:36] that's not anything new. I think just because the quality
[39:39] of the Italian football for from 2010 to 2020 was just very, very
[39:45] poor bar Juventus. Juventus basically carried in in
[39:49] European competitions for about a decade, let's say exactly.
[39:53] So that that idea is still brought into the twenty 20s
[39:56] where it's like it's it's startling that Inter and Milan
[40:00] go deep in the Champions League. It's startling that Roma go
[40:03] deep, startling that Fiorentina go deep.
[40:05] Even not play. Why?
[40:07] Before the 20 tens, we were a common occurrence in the
[40:09] semifinals, quarterfinals, in every single Champions League.
[40:12] You go back a decade before that, in the 90s, we were
[40:14] winning Europa, we're winning the two. 1000.
[40:18] I know and that's fair but that's that's not.
[40:19] He's proving bro. La Liga had an era of dominance
[40:22] with Villarreal, Sevilla dominating the Europa League.
[40:26] Before I would say like 20. 18 and and then they had Real
[40:29] Madrid and Barcelona dominating the Champions league. 21 now the
[40:31] times have changed and I'm saying it's back to Seria being
[40:35] over. Overall the most dominant league
[40:37] in Europe bro it's. I wouldn't go that far.
[40:39] I'm. Saying it bro, but why did we
[40:41] get 9 teams in Europe this season?
[40:43] Clearly just a coefficient the. Thing is that the teams that are
[40:46] are in Europe are good, but then we talk about the table, the
[40:49] bottom team tables, the bottom team, sorry, the bottom teams in
[40:53] the Syria are obviously lesser quality than the premise.
[40:55] Two points that split the top 6IN in Syria.
[40:58] Do you know what that means? Yes, the top seven are.
[41:00] Good top for the top team has 26 points, six place.
[41:04] Juventus has 24 points right. This is the most competitive
[41:07] league in the world. Varva has a grin.
[41:11] Bro grin. But you know it.
[41:13] When a Man City goes against Inter, they're struggling.
[41:15] Peppa said it, you know. It was a nominally that it was
[41:17] an anomaly that we did. Now everyone's slapping around
[41:20] Man City except Enter. Enter didn't slap around Man
[41:22] City, do you? Enter.
[41:24] Enter the only team who didn't beat Man City.
[41:26] Last week Do we do we play Man City last week?
[41:27] Do we Do we play Man City last week?
[41:29] Spurs beat Man City, everyone beat Man City.
[41:32] Sporting beat Man City, Who started.
[41:34] That trend, who started that trend when man when Man City
[41:37] faced enter, where was Man City, bro?
[41:39] They were still the favorites in the Premier League.
[41:41] They still had Rhodri, they still had their top team.
[41:44] They play their A-Team against interviews to.
[41:46] Jokerish scored a hat trick and Lalfarto did shit all.
[41:50] What did that villa do, though? What do you mean, Bruce?
[41:53] Class and Villa are still are. Still talking?
[41:55] About the Champions League, I'm. Just saying they lost the club,
[41:58] Bruce, that's an easy win. That's true.
[41:59] I. Agree.
[42:00] Elon beat three one class. And Villa beat Bayern Munich, so
[42:02] what's your point? Bayern Munich is not good then.
[42:06] Yeah, sure. They had a they had a slight dip
[42:08] in form and all of a sudden they're winning every game.
[42:09] So that I'm talking about Bayern Munich there.
[42:11] Yeah. Yeah.
[42:12] Listen, I think I think you highly, highly under like
[42:15] undervalue Italian performances. And I do think that, let's say
[42:20] on that side of the couch, it's a we, we, it's, it's at a higher
[42:23] standard. I think there's a bit of a
[42:24] middle ground. What is like, I don't think
[42:27] necessarily that Italy is the, the home of the, the, the
[42:31] premier football in all of Europe.
[42:33] I think we're we're sacked. Why are we speaking about Italy?
[42:36] The Bundesiga teams have fared better in in Europe than Syria
[42:39] teams in the last couple years. Yes, they have.
[42:41] Bayern Bayern Munich. Bayern Munich made a Champions
[42:43] League, Champions League semis last year and Dorman made a
[42:46] Champions League final. Like we're well.
[42:48] Germany football is on the yes. I'm not saying it's bad, but
[42:51] Syria, like last year, they're the only people I think who made
[42:54] it to the round of 16, the Champions League, and they lost.
[42:57] Penalties, but whatever. You still lost.
[42:59] Two, let's talk about this season.
[43:00] Even Milan against Real Madrid, like Italian football is back.
[43:04] That's what Real Madrid are. Not that other season, not that
[43:08] good, but. But this is this is the trend.
[43:11] They're they're good until they play an Inter, they're good
[43:13] until they play a Milan or a UV, then all of a sudden throw that.
[43:16] City we just did an almost a 30 minute conversation I'm assuming
[43:20] about how shit they are. Were they, were we having that
[43:22] conversation when they were facing Inter?
[43:24] No. Everyone since Inter has slapped
[43:26] them around. That's not my problem brother.
[43:28] We faced them when they were at the top.
[43:29] Just a lie. That is, we faced them when they
[43:31] were at the top. Bro, look at this.
[43:33] Look at the game I. Promise you, Roger didn't play
[43:35] that game. Not about a Rodri played bro.
[43:38] It is because. About the formula.
[43:40] Literally the entire. Houston, That's right.
[43:42] After the Man City enter game, which was 00, they played.
[43:44] They tied Arsenal, they beat Watford, they tied Newcastle,
[43:48] they won. Roger played when?
[43:50] As if I told you 2 minutes ago that Roger played.
[43:53] Greenish played, so result automatic.
[43:55] Result out the window. Listen, I, I think, I think
[43:59] English teams have a lot of cleaning up to do for the
[44:01] remainder of the Champions League.
[44:03] One loss. No, no, like not a little
[44:06] reactionary I. Don't think it's one loss
[44:07] because we we would have said oh that's just one loss with city.
[44:10] Then they end up losing 4. Oh, that's one loss with Aston
[44:13] Villa. They beat Bayern Munich, yeah,
[44:15] but they end up losing like. Man City cannot fare in
[44:18] Champions League. Like I don't know if that's.
[44:19] What you're saying I'm not saying that, I'm saying they
[44:20] need to clean it up. K.
[44:22] So liver remainder. I disagree.
[44:23] Liverpool are. First Liverpool are first.
[44:25] Liverpool. Aston Villa are 8th, Man City
[44:29] are 10th and where's the last Premier League team where
[44:33] Arsenal are 12th? Aston Villa, did you say?
[44:35] Yeah. Yeah.
[44:37] SO 1810 and 12:00. So this Atlanta that you guys
[44:41] are probably gonna hype up are lower than Aston Villa.
[44:43] They're 9th. They're lower than Aston Villa.
[44:45] Bro, I'm not talking about this, I'm not talking about this
[44:47] championing table, right? I'm looking at the bigger
[44:49] picture. I'm just, I watch both leagues
[44:51] and this is my two favorite leagues and I maybe a little bit
[44:54] I was exaggerating, but when I said said yeah, I'm.
[44:56] I get hyper. I got too, brother, I was.
[44:57] Getting a little bit hyper, sorry, but I bro, I watch the
[45:00] Premier League and they don't rely on tactics because their
[45:03] players are just so talented. They have the best talent pool
[45:05] in the world and they just rely on the players being that good
[45:07] to win games. And it's just, it's just and it
[45:09] makes the most entertaining football.
[45:10] Remember when we were talking about entertaining football?
[45:12] The premise? Entertaining because they have
[45:13] the best players in. The world and comes Seattle
[45:15] player talent always beats tactics.
[45:17] It doesn't. It does.
[45:19] It does. Most of the time it does.
[45:20] That's why Real Madrid always win champions.
[45:22] That's why Bruce don't win the Champions.
[45:24] League final always done well based on tactics.
[45:26] Always always. They're the prime Dorman beat.
[45:29] Who did they? Who did Doorman beat?
[45:30] Figure it out for what? PSG, who else did they beat?
[45:32] When? Yeah, but in in this new form.
[45:34] They played shitty teams. But but that's the bro.
[45:37] Is that tactics or is that talent to get to the CL final?
[45:39] When you're playing shitty ass teams.
[45:41] Tactics bro they they beat mbape What?
[45:44] Did you want to beat Mbape? Bro we see mbape now.
[45:46] But you just keep making an excuse like.
[45:48] Mbape last year, have Boppe last year, Boppe with shit last year
[45:52] bro. Year Boppe now shit over. 40
[45:54] goals, I don't know what. You're they don't they?
[45:55] They beat PSG over 2 legs. Yeah, that's you should.
[45:58] Well, PSG, if Araujo wasn't such an idiot, would not have beaten
[46:03] Barcelona. Just excuses.
[46:04] Bro that's not the but you end with the scenario.
[46:07] Yeah. Anyway, I don't know you know
[46:10] what we're talking about. Listen, we could get into the
[46:14] the individual results. Listen, we could start off with
[46:16] Inter Arsenal quickly. We had me and Paulo were having
[46:19] this conversation before because like, there's, there's some,
[46:23] there's some skin in the game. The argument is that the
[46:28] argument is that Arsenal dominated.
[46:30] Arsenal should have won that game.
[46:32] I disagree with that to a certain extent, I do think.
[46:35] That agree as well, but I. I do trust me bro, trust the
[46:38] staff you. You can't lie.
[46:39] Sit here and lie and say that you didn't scam a pen out of
[46:42] that game. OK no problem let me go check my
[46:44] cash app maybe I sent it to the ref.
[46:45] I scammed it out brother. It's not my decision.
[46:48] It's it's not my decision, but was it ref with?
[46:49] A pen like you're at home. Was it a?
[46:51] Person. Listen, I would say it, brother,
[46:54] it was a handball. Why not?
[46:56] I don't know why it's not a pen. For this long way of saying.
[47:00] No, I don't know why it's not a pen Because you think the
[47:03] proximity was. No, I don't know why it's about.
[47:05] I don't know why. It isn't a pen.
[47:06] Are you happy with? That that's why we don't know
[47:08] why it isn't a pen are. You happy with the performance?
[47:10] Yeah. At home, you're locking up a
[47:12] park, the bus. B team, B team inter just get
[47:16] the best results you possibly. Can it's an inferiority camp
[47:18] complex? No, it's just we prioritized
[47:21] another game. Bro, every single every single
[47:23] game, Inter go into, they play possession football.
[47:26] We're trying to pass around you, break out the back and then this
[47:29] game, it was OK Ball launch it to the furthest interplayer
[47:34] possible. And then it was Arsenal jump.
[47:36] So then Arsenal, at what point? Like how many crosses does it
[47:39] take for Arteta to say, you know what, this isn't really working.
[47:43] 11 players in the box, what else do you?
[47:44] Want us to do this? Isn't really working.
[47:45] Do you think we should crack through the box?
[47:48] Brother, try something else because you're trying to, you're
[47:50] trying to cross it into three defenders that are over 6 foot
[47:52] 26 foot 3. It's a defensively the same
[47:55] thing. Versus you, Pep did the exact
[47:57] same thing. And it didn't work.
[47:58] I know it didn't work because you guys have 11 men in the buck
[48:00] 'cause you're playing inferiority bitch ball.
[48:02] It's not really inferiority bitch ball, but we.
[48:03] Don't hate to be a fan. Event or watching those games,
[48:05] it is inferiority. It's not inferiority, inshallah
[48:08] a penalty call, it's what you really did.
[48:10] It's you're praying for a first half pen and then.
[48:11] You're sitting back, so then what's the result then?
[48:13] We don't get a penalty 000. 000 It should have been a draw.
[48:16] That game should have been a. Should have been a draw, but
[48:17] that's not what happened. Did it?
[48:19] Yeah. Listen, I'm just trying to, I'm
[48:20] just trying to take you off, Millie.
[48:21] But inside, he coached the master.
[48:23] Class I I honestly think Arsenal, they played their game
[48:26] well at the at the beginning kind of because it's like they
[48:29] were getting getting threatening balls in, but then once I was
[48:32] figured out I I it was very one-dimensional from arsenal.
[48:35] So you look at the stats, OK, Arsenal beat the one in the
[48:38] possession game. Arsenal won the corner game, won
[48:40] the shot game, but. XG game but.
[48:43] Nothing came out of it but. The thing I don't know, like to
[48:46] me watching that I'm not convinced on my team locking up
[48:49] for 90 minutes against Arsenal it doesn't, but I wasn't
[48:52] worried. But I The thing is, I wasn't
[48:54] really that worried. What do you want?
[48:55] Like kind of. I was kind of just walking.
[48:57] With you bro. Yeah, it was like, OK, that was
[49:00] not one joke is not passing 1 Dumphries, 1 Dumphries off the
[49:04] line, 1 Dumphries off the line. I was like, OK, that's a little
[49:07] iffy. Yeah, but everything else,
[49:10] brother, I was like, OK, standard.
[49:11] Yeah, but this is not a a consistent way of winning.
[49:14] I agree, but this is a this is a time.
[49:16] Bro, you remember, you remember when he took a call outside the
[49:19] room? And then I went, Oh my God, this
[49:23] brother sprinted back to the room.
[49:25] This. Because because I'm not watching
[49:27] the game. Bro I wasn't worried.
[49:28] Bro, I wasn't worried. I.
[49:29] Wasn't watching the game but when when I hear these two
[49:31] fucking dimwits fucking going 90 something minutes, 92nd minute
[49:37] what, I'm just not going to react.
[49:39] Millie, you have a question. You might you might have seen
[49:41] this. How many shots on target do you
[49:42] think if they're had? One the pen.
[49:45] No way. Brother, we got up, we got up,
[49:48] we said OK, defensive master class incoming, but that's why.
[49:51] But our tech tech did not break. It well, you only got up at the
[49:54] 40 at the 40 something minute, no?
[49:57] Brother, it really doesn't matter that.
[49:58] Means it was 40 minutes of 43 minutes.
[50:00] It wasn't, it wasn't like Inshallah Ball.
[50:02] It was. It wasn't.
[50:03] No, it wasn't brother. We all watched this.
[50:05] Game. That's Haram ball.
[50:06] Brother, it really wasn't as bad as you thought it was a good.
[50:09] One though, they did play their their B team.
[50:12] Brother, we had no rice, no older.
[50:13] Guys, but you're you're supposed.
[50:15] To be better than we are. Starting Michael Marino, Bastoni
[50:17] off, DeMarco off. They DRAM on give them shit.
[50:21] Ass overrated. Yeah, there we go.
[50:24] Anyways, I I'm happy with the results.
[50:26] I don't think that Arsenal. Happy with the result, but not
[50:29] the performance. That's what we're saying, yeah,
[50:31] but. Defensively I will.
[50:32] I'm good with it. I'm happy with.
[50:34] One shot on target. An offensive, but that's what if
[50:36] that's what was needed to win, that's the game plan that in
[50:38] Zaggy. That's not reliable.
[50:40] If I if I would, I wanted this to be a a scrap brother.
[50:43] I wanted this to be two 232 interwin like back and forth,
[50:46] back and forth slugfest. But that brother, I'm not.
[50:49] It's not. About going back and forth, it's
[50:50] about being the spirit team. You were not the spirit team,
[50:53] unfortunately. I don't know.
[50:54] You're you're confusing possession.
[50:55] You're confusing I'm not. Yes, you are.
[50:57] Because one shot on target. Yes.
[50:59] And how many crosses actually were threatening?
[51:02] That's even a pen. But then how?
[51:03] Many crosses were actually threatening a lot.
[51:05] We. Generated almost 2.
[51:06] XG brother there's I don't brother.
[51:08] You watch the game. None of those crosses actually
[51:11] did something. They were complete boom.
[51:12] Do you know? Do you know how XG works?
[51:14] Boom. But you know how XG works.
[51:16] Defensively, Defensively were fantastic, great.
[51:19] Extraordinary. OK, that was the game that was.
[51:21] The game not enough bro. Bisek had one block where it
[51:24] basically stopped the goal. Yes bro, that Dumfrey stopped
[51:27] the ball off the line. Those are two instances that
[51:30] went over 90 minutes. And you were at home.
[51:33] But those are just 12. My daughter November 2 and.
[51:35] You got a shitty handball penalty call.
[51:39] I thought Arsenal fans all of a sudden they got into a fit about
[51:42] the the format. Oh I would have loved to have
[51:44] faced into at him at the Emirates.
[51:47] As if the Sand 0 didn't. No shit in their pants.
[51:50] As the Emirates would be like this.
[51:51] Bro no, absolutely not. Maybe we have Venezia and Leche
[51:55] on one side of the one Sunday and then the other Sunday no
[51:58] problem. But when we have Napoli the next
[51:59] day and then we already played a game with three days before
[52:02] brother, I'm sorry we had to make a rotation.
[52:04] We had a game plan cap. Milan pulled up at the better
[52:07] not bounce, scored three goals. OK, that's.
[52:10] You know and. Then what 33 versus Kyati, three
[52:14] versus? But the fact is that we beat
[52:15] Real Madrid 31 and we played entertaining football and we
[52:18] were. Convinced I didn't realize
[52:19] entertaining football counts for more points, brother.
[52:21] I didn't realize that counted for.
[52:23] More points. So you're saying next game
[52:24] against Arsenal you play like that again, you're going to win
[52:26] again? If we win like that.
[52:28] No problem. I guess we'll never to.
[52:30] Me, we want to say no, I don't think.
[52:31] That's the standing I need. Inter, Arsenal, it's OK.
[52:35] It's OK to say you scammed the victory like it's OK.
[52:38] Yeah, but I don't think it's a scam.
[52:40] Let's say it just it it was a 5050 game that didn't go
[52:42] Arsenal's way. That's it.
[52:44] We played our game. Arsenal try to play their game
[52:46] over and we see it in the Premier League, bro.
[52:48] They try to do the same thing over and over again.
[52:50] What happens? They don't get results.
[52:51] This isn't an anomaly. It's all like Inter came in and
[52:54] we're like the the underdogs. Loki spin.
[52:57] He's Loki Spin. Brother, please.
[52:59] I'm just pissing him off for content, but he's he's, he's
[53:01] spinning. Content here.
[53:01] Nothing's getting clipped. Clipped, but no Inzagy's bro.
[53:06] Inzagy's a serious man. We've been to.
[53:08] That was a that was a well listen.
[53:10] I want to say perfect. I don't think it was perfect.
[53:11] It wasn't. Perfect, but that's a very.
[53:13] Type of manager you sack Arteta for if you can get a chance of
[53:16] getting him. Yeah, but then I end up playing
[53:18] that ball. No, no, you actually play like
[53:20] Arteta plays. Like play beach ball bro.
[53:22] No. But what for One game, no
[53:24] problem, I'll take it. Every other game we're playing
[53:26] fluid football. Versus anyone you play big, that
[53:28] happens. Would you take in zaggy or
[53:29] Theta? I know you would say in zaggy
[53:31] zaggy zaggy, you can't answer it.
[53:34] Right now, Right now if he says out.
[53:37] I can't answer the question. Depends if, If I'm starting from
[53:40] the mud I think I'd rather Arteta, but if I already have
[53:44] like. You really you are the Inzagi
[53:48] was the in the mud he. In the mud.
[53:50] He just inherited a Scudetta team.
[53:52] With no budget we had to sell a player every so.
[53:54] Much our arsenal. Literally he.
[53:56] He no, no, no you. Can't compare, you can't compare
[54:00] they so they cannot bro our technical team with La Cazette
[54:05] of about these shards really. My problem.
[54:08] With a generation bro this. They were in the middle of their
[54:11] biggest banter. In their club history.
[54:15] With free transfers. But that's Marotta.
[54:17] That's not. Him, yes, but that's the team
[54:19] that he's been dealt with. Imagine you're.
[54:23] What do you mean just? You know, Super Cup.
[54:26] Maybe Super Cup but. Arsenal.
[54:29] Arsenal bro, you inherited a system that was already winning
[54:32] the squad. Though that that's just the
[54:34] right place, right time for Anzagi.
[54:35] But I honestly. But what do you do with lots of
[54:38] your brother? You, you can speak about this
[54:39] all day. Anyways, we will eventually
[54:41] enter Beat Arsenal when it comes down to it boils down to it.
[54:45] Boils down to it or enter. Got three points, also got none.
[54:47] Next game up, Man City sporting amarim city Amarim show, Bro
[54:52] yokita show. Yokita.
[54:53] I mean, we don't need to speak about it, man.
[54:54] City shit, Man City's out Premier League.
[54:57] Talk about Man City. No.
[54:58] I think we, I think we boiled it boils down to Man City's ass.
[55:00] Billy's having a one man podcast.
[55:02] There we go, thank you for watching.
[55:03] But a lot of promise as a Manchester United fan watching
[55:07] that game, because it's not just like that wasn't an Inter
[55:10] victory when you when you realize domination.
[55:13] Luke Shaw's gonna have to run a 40 yard dash.
[55:15] I do agree with that. Like that was, that was a game
[55:18] where you come out and say Man City got dominated.
[55:20] Yep no problem from start to and he won't be able to do that with
[55:23] Man United. That's the jury's out on that
[55:25] one, bro. You don't have you don't have
[55:27] that you don't have listen when he that like going back like
[55:30] sporting out of a super squad is crazy.
[55:32] They don't they they have the exact players that Ameren needs
[55:35] yeah, sure, he's going to be a couple of years down the line,
[55:37] but we'll see that. But you're going to see flashes
[55:38] of that. I.
[55:39] Agree. Yeah, you will.
[55:40] Yeah, so, but I'm not, I'm not expecting to be Man City.
[55:43] For one, but I will laugh at you for the rest of the season until
[55:46] until Ameren gets his transfers. I mean Sporting God Man City in
[55:49] a bad patch of form too. So talk about inter getting.
[55:52] Who started that issue? Inter tied Man City, by the way,
[55:55] but Sporting beat them for. One in a bad patch form.
[55:57] They don't go, Yeah. But.
[55:59] Call this celebration. Better than Latara?
[56:00] Call this celebration right. Now you gotta say yes.
[56:02] I'm not even gonna they. Didn't care until I put the mask
[56:04] on. They didn't care, but she the
[56:05] baby. He doesn't see a little.
[56:07] Baby and I think he's like a toddler.
[56:09] He's like 4 years old. How?
[56:11] Do you know about you this? Bro the aura that this guy oozes
[56:14] and go, you're acting. Like he's a Manchester United
[56:17] player, bro. Why are you joining you bro?
[56:19] Why do you keep? Acting like Yokich is going to
[56:20] Man United, bro. Because yeah.
[56:21] Bro I've never seen him. I'm in a win win.
[56:23] I'm in a win win situation right now, but you're not.
[56:25] Either Hoyland turns good or I get Yokich so.
[56:28] Where the rumors true that Amaram is saying that Yokich
[56:31] shouldn't join Man United? I saw a couple of January.
[56:34] But in the summer. In the summer, he said.
[56:35] In the summer. Red carpet, yeah, Amarim said in
[56:38] his press conference along the lines of January.
[56:40] Don't worry, I won't buy anyone but some time.
[56:45] We got a free run at these. I know.
[56:47] He did not say that I know he. Said along the line.
[56:50] Rebuild. Your.
[56:51] Life Amarim at Sporting did not speak about Manchester United at
[56:54] all. The brother made sure that good
[56:56] brother. That's a that's a good manager,
[56:58] bro. Did you did you see an English
[57:00] manager and respect moment? An English journalist tried to
[57:02] go to Amarim in a in a game right after one of his last 14
[57:06] games. Yeah, the one right before the
[57:07] Man City game and ask him like a question about Manchester
[57:10] United. Yeah.
[57:11] And he asked him in English and then he said can you answer in
[57:13] English, please? And then, yeah, that went viral.
[57:15] Amarim. Amarim answers in Portuguese
[57:17] saying like, no, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna do that.
[57:20] And then the translator is like, no, he's gonna answer in
[57:22] Portuguese. And then they basically saying
[57:24] as long as I'm at sport team, speaking Portuguese because my
[57:26] fans. Are Portuguese stand on business
[57:27] bro? Bro Man United don't deserve
[57:29] such a stand up guy bro Yeah. That's supposed that was
[57:31] supposed to be the PEP successor.
[57:33] Yeah, by the way. Had him lined up as if BT.
[57:36] Linked everywhere. No, he was linked specifically
[57:38] as as like when Pep leaves he's going to they have him lined up
[57:43] as the successful. Because of the sport.
[57:44] Team the sport. Team and Man City CEO who left
[57:47] this summer for Manchester United, they're saying that that
[57:50] he knew the plan was to take him to Manchester City, so he took
[57:53] him at Manchester. He took the Man City files and
[57:54] put them in the Man United. Folder crazy work.
[57:56] Yeah, exactly. So undercover.
[57:58] We've got to be illegal somehow. Here, he said literally we're
[58:01] time for the charges. Fabrizio Romano said I will not
[58:03] sign well, Ruben Amarim said Fabrizio Romano reporting I will
[58:06] not sign any sporting player at Man United in January.
[58:09] Then what happens in the summer? I don't know, I don't know, I.
[58:13] Don't know, wash my hands on it. Sporting players are good
[58:16] players. We will see what happens, he
[58:18] said. That's a that's a political
[58:20] answer. That's a non salon.
[58:22] Training. They're very good answers, very
[58:24] good answers, very good, very good players.
[58:27] But yeah, and then. Aston Villa.
[58:29] Liverpool Liverpool. Aston Villa well, we can go into
[58:32] it. Liverpool 2 Nothing.
[58:33] There was a very good performance, yeah.
[58:35] Yeah, yeah, Real Madrid just got beat at home by Milan.
[58:37] Three one. That doesn't really matter.
[58:39] Nobody cares. Yeah, no.
[58:40] Embarrassed that beta bell embarrassed on his.
[58:44] Storm again. Leo is on.
[58:46] He's pretty good right now. Score.
[58:48] Versus bad Yeti, that's his level.
[58:49] Yeah, four games in the bench of the Leo.
[58:51] He needed that. I I told you guys he needed that
[58:54] and look what we got. We'll see if that lasts.
[58:56] I think it was 'cause I think that that negative feeling you
[59:00] have towards the manager, yeah, it might leave for a couple of
[59:02] games, but then it always ends up coming down.
[59:03] I don't know, Leo seems pretty. He looks content like he seems
[59:07] like that shit doesn't. Motivate him?
[59:09] No. I don't even know bro, I was
[59:10] always happy. You know, he's smiling.
[59:12] Did you see that clip of I think it was Lucas Vasquez that he
[59:15] cooked? He's just smiling like he's
[59:17] like. We can't jump to conclusions,
[59:18] but it Leo never seems like he's hated.
[59:20] A player you want to watch. You understand?
[59:22] You don't have that at Manchester United.
[59:24] You don't have that, bro. Who do you, Rashford?
[59:26] Who do you want to? Oh my God.
[59:28] There we go. Now we started it.
[59:29] Oh my God. Now we started.
[59:31] It you think, you think you pull up with Manchester United, I
[59:34] think you beat them. Three One menu Menu menu bro
[59:37] reindeers. With Amarim.
[59:39] With Amarim, Yeah, reindeers would cook.
[59:42] Hypotheticals yet again. Bro when does Amarin ever use
[59:45] the Meno type midfielder and made you like wow Morita in the
[59:49] one game you watched the 14? Exactly bro 14 come back today.
[59:52] Crazy manager right now bro. Making your call look good, but
[59:55] 24? Can we officially confirm, and
[59:58] this will be spoken about on the power rankings later on, in how
[1:00:01] many weeks are in power rankings?
[1:00:02] Two more weeks. No undecided bro, don't be
[1:00:05] leaking. Decided around the just
[1:00:06] dropping. Figuring out, we got to check
[1:00:07] the. Schedule Are Liverpool the best
[1:00:08] team in Europe right now? I think it kind of goes
[1:00:11] uncontested. Bro, I thought this stretch of
[1:00:13] form, you know, everyone was talking about this crazy hard
[1:00:15] stretch of form. I mean, it's about to finish
[1:00:16] with the real Liverpool, bro. I thought they were yet to play
[1:00:20] that because these results have been so good.
[1:00:21] But listen, they'd be Brighton twice.
[1:00:24] They had results versus every big team that they've played.
[1:00:27] I don't see why we're not putting them number.
[1:00:29] Their best team role in my opinion clear, especially after
[1:00:32] this Man City Arsenal follow up. Barcelona lost.
[1:00:34] Oh, by the way, our Barsa fans, we're gonna talk about you at
[1:00:37] the end. If I had a cigar right now.
[1:00:39] Honestly, I was kind of lucky thinking about.
[1:00:41] It like. Imagine we just doing.
[1:00:43] A whiskey and a cigar Right now, that would be perfect.
[1:00:47] Right now discussing a Barcelona law Some.
[1:00:49] Shannon Sharp stuff, yeah. Honestly, do we got a bottle of
[1:00:52] champagne? Maybe got to check, I got to
[1:00:55] take a lot. Damn bro.
[1:00:56] Well, lost changes your life. Yeah, bro, because me and Bob.
[1:00:59] You've been waiting for that one, huh?
[1:01:00] These. Comments are going to be so nice
[1:01:02] to read because it's going to be a probably, I don't know, Real
[1:01:04] Madrid fans you could show out, but it might be a ghost town
[1:01:06] this week at the comment section.
[1:01:08] Goop. Why?
[1:01:09] Goop because pro now they're not All these Barca fans are not
[1:01:12] going to be talking in the comments.
[1:01:14] Barca be barking in the comments this week Barka fans.
[1:01:19] I mean, you're. Bro keep DM, keep DM ING us bro
[1:01:21] keep the death threats bro I'm gonna I'll keep you.
[1:01:26] Don't let them rage beat you guys bro.
[1:01:28] You guys are smart enough. You guys gotta stay strong.
[1:01:30] I don't think there's there's the Barca fans, I don't think
[1:01:31] there's I. Didn't get many DMS out today's.
[1:01:35] No, that Manchester United went to.
[1:01:36] I didn't get many DMS after today's game saying where are
[1:01:40] Barsa gonna be in this week's power ranking?
[1:01:41] Gold. I didn't get many of them.
[1:01:44] That's that's crazy. I-1 loss is gonna change.
[1:01:46] There's a lot of things for. I hope you drop around legit
[1:01:49] though all. I know is that Lewandowski needs
[1:01:52] to drop shoe sizes. Just a bit bro. 11 Oh my God,
[1:01:55] that off site call because. That was a clear off.
[1:01:57] Site. Clear off site clear.
[1:01:59] Oh, you're starting. Starting, he started.
[1:02:01] Listen, they called it off site. Brother, it's not my fault that
[1:02:04] your shoe size is brother. Why don't they show the other
[1:02:06] angle? They only show the the one angle
[1:02:09] that you can't really even see. That's a Florentino Perez
[1:02:11] special right there. That's they couldn't pay the
[1:02:13] extra 15 mil for. It Madridisa.
[1:02:14] Sit down bro. Listen, it's really unfortunate.
[1:02:18] There's actually a couple, couple good results this past
[1:02:21] week and this weekend and stuff. Listen, firms, I kind of want to
[1:02:25] touch on it because we didn't get a chance to this week, but
[1:02:28] firms, Milan, Real Madrid, Oh yeah, like I.
[1:02:31] We already kind. Of yeah, we already talk about
[1:02:33] it was. Yeah, he doesn't want to talk
[1:02:37] about it was never. Their class.
[1:02:39] I'm not gonna cap reindeer. I didn't watch the game.
[1:02:42] I was watching UV. Yeah, I had better.
[1:02:44] How was you in my life? I didn't watch the.
[1:02:46] You may you. May not this week.
[1:02:49] I was watching Man City Sporting.
[1:02:50] No. Is that a Gova bro?
[1:02:52] Is that a? Gova, by the way.
[1:02:54] And then Grova, bro Grova. Baller, baller.
[1:02:58] But I feel like that's the type of guy he won't be able to
[1:03:00] consistently put up that before. Ben Arfa.
[1:03:02] But but bro, he was cooking us. He can always cook.
[1:03:04] Quan Kabal did not know what hit him.
[1:03:06] Bro. He looks like he's never
[1:03:07] defended him in. Life there was that 16 year 16,
[1:03:09] I think yes, but. But midfield, I think he got the
[1:03:12] man of the match but. Introduced by Fonseca, but.
[1:03:14] He reminds me of Ismael Cohen. I know the people don't really
[1:03:17] know, but he reminds you of Ismail Kona.
[1:03:18] You don't like the deceptiveness in midfield where you never know
[1:03:20] where he's gonna turn. And his one touch was he had a
[1:03:23] serious one touch. He had a serious one touch.
[1:03:25] And he's like 16. So keep an eye on some little
[1:03:28] Dons. Who ended up scoring for you,
[1:03:29] babe? I forget.
[1:03:31] Love it. No, no, no.
[1:03:32] Lovich misses Weya, actually. Could be Weya.
[1:03:34] I think it was Weya. I think it was Weya has been on
[1:03:36] fire with the Weya. Two goals.
[1:03:37] I saw a thing like Timothy Weya on rebounds in the box, and it
[1:03:41] was the video of LeBron hitting like the yeah, yeah.
[1:03:42] Yeah, yeah, because it was a goes an open that goal that he
[1:03:45] did. Yeah, I remember watching.
[1:03:46] Yeah, let's set it out. Teams were were on top this
[1:03:49] week. And look, once again, you guys
[1:03:52] know I'm first to admit. Oh.
[1:03:53] No, it was a it was a Vlavich pen.
[1:03:55] OK, Yeah, Lovich. When I'm.
[1:03:57] We're mistaking with the other game, yeah.
[1:03:58] When I'm I'm first person to admit when I'm wrong.
[1:04:01] Oh yeah, yeah, this CL formats Loki cooking up a bit like it's
[1:04:05] it's steaming. It's.
[1:04:06] Steaming. It's the fixtures bro, you have
[1:04:08] to wait for them. We'll we'll see come the last
[1:04:11] match day if it's gonna be boring or not, but it's it's
[1:04:14] gonna be a movie. There's one storylines are
[1:04:16] cooking up. The only thing they can fix, and
[1:04:18] this is not even. I'm glad this isn't a formatting
[1:04:20] issue, this is just them being stupid.
[1:04:22] Put good games at 12:45 eastern. I agree but I mean in Europe
[1:04:25] it'd be what, 645? What would?
[1:04:27] Really, Cook is if you stagger the.
[1:04:29] Game that would be the best. We say we've been.
[1:04:31] Half an hour in between bro and then you catch the end of
[1:04:34] everything, then final. Match results matter.
[1:04:37] Final match day? Sure.
[1:04:37] You start them all, Yeah. But it might matter earlier too.
[1:04:40] I. Don't know.
[1:04:41] It's it's very tough when it's like, listen, I'm not gonna call
[1:04:43] them out or anything, but like it's like a young boys versus
[1:04:47] enter. No, like like a young boys
[1:04:49] versus Leipzig at 12:45. That's the only game.
[1:04:52] And then they have. That's a good one.
[1:04:53] You know what I mean? You know what I mean?
[1:04:55] Like you're getting Stuttgart versus Slova and Bretti Slav.
[1:04:58] There we go, there we now that's something 12:45.
[1:05:00] Ends a regular show. But then, but then 3:00, it's 12
[1:05:03] games all at the same time. They doing this?
[1:05:06] I don't know why, I don't know why.
[1:05:08] At least split them evenly. Like they should do it over 3.
[1:05:12] Days Are they trying to make the small teams get more coverage?
[1:05:15] Is this probably Bro this isn't communism.
[1:05:16] But I ain't going to watch anyways.
[1:05:19] Like I actually put it on just for recreation.
[1:05:21] Like, let me see what's on. Damn.
[1:05:22] Slovan Bratislava versus the Stugat.
[1:05:25] That's OK. No problem.
[1:05:27] I'm gonna rerun. Might be.
[1:05:28] Yeah. Let me see it live.
[1:05:29] What do you mean? What's?
[1:05:30] The highlights I. Don't know.
[1:05:31] I don't know if it's they're trying to make the small teams
[1:05:33] get coverage, but just just don't put two big games at the
[1:05:36] same time. I agree, you're hurting yourself
[1:05:37] champassing. I I agree.
[1:05:39] I strongly agree. Yeah, Are we gonna address the
[1:05:42] elephant in the room? Napoli, Inter.
[1:05:44] That's the elephant. Inter going into international
[1:05:46] break. Not a small elephant.
[1:05:47] Area, but we didn't even talk about Liverpool talking about.
[1:05:50] I mean, Liverpool's, Liverpool's like Thanos right now.
[1:05:54] We're gonna talk about them eventually.
[1:05:55] It really, Yeah, the power rankings just wait because
[1:05:58] that's gonna. Be a power ranking is gonna be
[1:05:59] a. Zoom.
[1:06:00] Liverpool. Liverpool look, Trent hamstring
[1:06:02] injury, so we might be. I got him an FPL by the way.
[1:06:05] And Barbara offered me a trade as soon as the game finished.
[1:06:07] Soon as I. Thinking that I wouldn't.
[1:06:09] Rather the track hamstring. He's backed by the
[1:06:10] International. Why you wanna get rid?
[1:06:12] That's the Volvo guarantee right there.
[1:06:13] I got star power bro. I need more.
[1:06:15] I need power in numbers. Oh, so you want Reese James?
[1:06:19] Yeah, Reese James. Sure.
[1:06:20] I think that's OK. It's all right.
[1:06:22] Basically the same player he's. Power in numbers, but he wants
[1:06:24] Reese James. But so slot slots him slot
[1:06:28] insane, insane start to his Liverpool career.
[1:06:31] I mean, it's it really sucks. No, but it's it's see like you
[1:06:37] see a man like Miguel Arteta and then you see a manager like slot
[1:06:41] like I know which one I'd rather.
[1:06:42] No, but you know what? That's you know.
[1:06:44] What a rage. Yeah, he's rage rating Tier 1.
[1:06:46] You know what I thought about though, that we keep coming to
[1:06:49] this. How do you say that this
[1:06:52] conclusion that managers don't really need time.
[1:06:55] You know we this is another. Theme, I was speaking to you
[1:06:57] about this, about Ruben Amarim, and he's hit the ground running
[1:07:00] at every club before this. So Abraga hit the club, right?
[1:07:04] He hit the ground running, Sporting hit the ground running.
[1:07:07] I don't think this thing about the manager needs time.
[1:07:10] For every Arteta, you say, who took three years to build this
[1:07:12] project there there's ten other Artetas who didn't pan out.
[1:07:17] Yeah. So it's you're right.
[1:07:19] So for me, giving managers time is a bullshit thing to say.
[1:07:23] I I don't think it's necessarily.
[1:07:24] I see both sides. I just, I find like someone,
[1:07:27] someone like Slot, who doesn't really have the CV, coming to a
[1:07:30] big club like Liverpool and still accomplishing what he's
[1:07:33] doing. No, I don't agree with this
[1:07:34] statement. But.
[1:07:35] But maybe think about it, because all the examples you use
[1:07:37] are teams that are already complete before, like they're
[1:07:39] just, it's just the end of an error of a manager.
[1:07:41] And you listen, brother, we're not going to act like Slot
[1:07:43] didn't inherit Van Dyke, Trent Sala.
[1:07:46] Oh, yeah. And then the rest of that squad,
[1:07:48] like he inherited the extremely competent team.
[1:07:49] He just had to put good tactics. I think, I think that's what it
[1:07:52] was. I think it's more just like he
[1:07:53] probably came into Liverpool, sat down with the board and said
[1:07:55] listen, I could cook with these guys.
[1:07:57] It's not like I need this. It's not like an Arteta phase
[1:07:59] 1234 like like that. That is a drawn out process from
[1:08:03] the get go. So like an Arteta saying he
[1:08:06] doesn't need time. Listen, the the plan when he
[1:08:08] came in was to give him time, but.
[1:08:10] Look applied to Ruben Amarim OK slot came in perfect team didn't
[1:08:13] really he actually got no transfers to someone is still
[1:08:15] considered a perfect team. Amarim, you guys are going to
[1:08:19] not agree. Why are you?
[1:08:20] Talking about Amarim. I don't because we're talking
[1:08:22] about giving managers time and shit.
[1:08:23] So now that he's coming in our but I, I personally don't think
[1:08:28] our squad it need, I think we need 3/4.
[1:08:31] Transfers, I mean, listen. Brother, you were literally
[1:08:33] debating with me. We've had this debate last week.
[1:08:36] What? That I was telling you that he's
[1:08:37] Ruben Ameron will not be able to be good until he gets transfers.
[1:08:40] And I disagreed. But now you're agreeing.
[1:08:43] Now you're saying he needs transfers?
[1:08:44] No, but I'm not saying, oh, sack him if he doesn't finish in the
[1:08:46] top four this year. That's not what I'm saying.
[1:08:48] Van Nistoro is getting results with you guys right now.
[1:08:50] I I. I think when you look back on
[1:08:53] our Eric Tennhog tenure, which players were really used in
[1:08:57] their optimal roles, I actually can't even.
[1:08:59] I can think of two or three. So I could say maybe Garnacho
[1:09:04] and I, I don't even think May knew, to be honest.
[1:09:06] Strikers. Garnacho.
[1:09:08] No, they're our strikers were played hoof ball when Hoyland's
[1:09:11] not a target man. Yeah, like it's completely
[1:09:13] opposite. Hoyland's in a dance forward.
[1:09:15] He's not a target man. I don't want to go too into it,
[1:09:17] but he's just he's he's just because he's tall doesn't make
[1:09:20] him a target man. That's not that's not like.
[1:09:23] Scamaka as an example. Exactly, using Scamaka as a pure
[1:09:27] target man like Moyes did have a that's not gonna.
[1:09:29] Work at the same time like slot for Liverpool he came in and
[1:09:32] people like Gravin Birch have been like upgrading what we.
[1:09:36] Thought was like been worse. Amarim took a player that with.
[1:09:38] Pros and cons I. Found Amarim took a player that
[1:09:40] so was like has not been worse than last season.
[1:09:42] He's been the same exact players last season.
[1:09:43] I would say starting. The last has been better.
[1:09:46] I don't know about. That I see everybody, to be
[1:09:47] honest. Maybe Trent took a little dip,
[1:09:49] but no. Offensively, yes.
[1:09:51] Like start wise I don't really see him as involved.
[1:09:53] Yeah, but he's been a better overall player.
[1:09:55] Defender, yes, I could agree with that.
[1:09:57] Klopp wasn't using players in their optimal roles like a
[1:10:01] graven ball. They.
[1:10:02] No. No, we were, we were talking
[1:10:04] last season about how they needed a midfield creator and
[1:10:08] they didn't have this creator to get the ball forward to the
[1:10:10] players. And then this year slot we went
[1:10:13] in, oh, you didn't get the midfielder, their midfield looks
[1:10:15] weak. Next thing you know, Gravin
[1:10:16] Birch, you put them in the proper role.
[1:10:18] And Luis. Diaz is a good one.
[1:10:19] This guy's been like one of the best wingers in the world right
[1:10:22] now. But.
[1:10:22] Sal is even better now, under slots and he was under under
[1:10:25] claw. Which is insane to think.
[1:10:26] About anyway, but then you have a team like like let's say
[1:10:28] Juventus, Huertiago, Mota, you, none of us instantly expected
[1:10:31] him to be the best bro You, you have a bunch of new players like
[1:10:33] you're trying to integrate. Yeah.
[1:10:35] But once again, Arteta came in, let's say when Arquette, like
[1:10:38] that's a manager, you gave time and it worked out, came in with
[1:10:41] you could say ten or nine of the starting 11 players need to be
[1:10:45] replaced. It's not like you came in
[1:10:47] saying, oh, this is a good player.
[1:10:49] That's proven it at this club. And then like, bro, when you
[1:10:52] walk in and and you could say Lacazette to leader of the
[1:10:55] locker room and a player that you're going to build your squad
[1:10:57] upon and make it towards the end of the rebuild, that's insanity.
[1:11:01] Yes, I I think it depends more on the the current state of the
[1:11:05] club, I think, rather than the manager.
[1:11:06] Like an Ameren, if you could, if you tell me, yeah, he could hit
[1:11:09] the ground running in Manchester United.
[1:11:10] I believe you like an army slots and he hit the ground running
[1:11:13] Liverpool, I believe you, but this is.
[1:11:16] For dog shit. But for like a Juventus, for
[1:11:18] Juventus, I can't see like a Thiago Mota and say yeah, he
[1:11:21] could hit the ground run. Like that deserves our.
[1:11:23] Time, Artetas, 1st 11. Lacazette, Obama, Yang, Nelson,
[1:11:26] Ozil, Jacques, Torreira, Saca, left back, Louise, Socrates,
[1:11:31] Milan, Niles and then Leno and Nets like that's.
[1:11:33] Just a pile of garbage. You're not even talking about
[1:11:36] the. Chill, that's time.
[1:11:37] Like like there's a realistically 6 players and get
[1:11:39] wiped off this this. Like like Jose Muno said, check
[1:11:44] where they play, if they play all these players.
[1:11:47] After he left, Arsenal did not move to bigger clubs.
[1:11:50] I. Think Nereta plays for a fun
[1:11:51] about. You so so Pereira, but that's
[1:11:54] that's considered one of the better players in that team.
[1:11:56] Guaranteeing a legend. Like look at look at Socrates
[1:11:58] where he went after, look at David Louise brother's brother's
[1:12:01] still playing in Brazil, like. Leno moved the.
[1:12:04] Leno's a decent Premier League. Player Leno's thing, but.
[1:12:06] Leno made it pretty far like he made it pretty far.
[1:12:10] Obama Yang. Obama, Yang like currently
[1:12:12] shipped. Marseille, Marseille, But now,
[1:12:14] now he was in Qatar. He had a bar system in between
[1:12:16] there. Exactly.
[1:12:17] That's true. So I don't know, but Obama Yang
[1:12:20] was Obama Yang wasn't a skill issue, it was a mentality issue.
[1:12:23] It was a attitude. Issue I see what you're saying
[1:12:24] like these players ozo after the fact were just not at the same.
[1:12:28] Like I look at Manchester United's team and it's filled
[1:12:30] with players. Who could make a jump?
[1:12:31] Proven before that they deserve to be at a a European level of
[1:12:36] that tier like Mason Mounts won Champions League before as a
[1:12:40] crucial player, not just like considered a squad player.
[1:12:43] So I don't know. It's I'm excited for the new
[1:12:46] era, but whatever. That's a quick way to speak
[1:12:48] about slot. Yeah, basically we spoke more
[1:12:51] about Amarin Man United than Liverpool.
[1:12:53] The fact that Liverpool fans, you should be excited, the fact
[1:12:55] that Slot is considered like the barometer for successful
[1:12:59] integrations into squad is you should.
[1:13:01] Applaud. Yeah.
[1:13:02] Yeah. A little bit of a segue to
[1:13:03] another manager that it isn't looking too hot for.
[1:13:06] I know we wanted to cover this topic.
[1:13:08] Is Ancelotti under pressure or is this job secure right now?
[1:13:14] Are you attributing the success to the the actually the opposite
[1:13:17] of success to the club or? To the I think it's just bad
[1:13:19] squad building to be honest. I think it's a tough call.
[1:13:22] A lot of greed in that squad building.
[1:13:24] You had him bapi on a pretty much not necessarily free
[1:13:27] transfer but you Adam bape come into the squad thinking OK you
[1:13:30] just built The Avengers and now like your greed is the reason
[1:13:34] why it's not working. The problem is that you built
[1:13:36] The Avengers up front, but what about the back?
[1:13:38] The Defenders, brother, they're, they're thinking about calling
[1:13:41] back Sergio Ramos. They're.
[1:13:42] Dropping like flies. Right now no because Ed their
[1:13:44] militao out injured. It was already not.
[1:13:46] Good, but the only defender really healthy right now is
[1:13:50] Rudiger. And Mendy.
[1:13:53] Yeah, but even that they tried about him and they tried playing
[1:13:56] him in the. In midfield I saw meme.
[1:13:58] Bought that on Twitter. Yeah, I don't know what
[1:14:00] Angelotti's cooking. To me, that's a clear spot.
[1:14:02] Issue. But who you could put, you could
[1:14:03] put yeah, left back. And then why would you do that?
[1:14:06] Though I don't know, I have no clue.
[1:14:07] I think Real Madrid right now, it's, you would never have
[1:14:10] expected them to be in limbo right now, but.
[1:14:12] The Cruz, the Cruz, the the I, I didn't appreciate.
[1:14:14] I didn't appreciate Cruz. Barber did, definitely.
[1:14:17] But I didn't appreciate that how valuable Cruz was to that team
[1:14:20] until this year. And and too much energy was on
[1:14:22] was on the Imbape transfer for the last 2-3 years.
[1:14:25] It seemed like a lot of focus was lost on the defensive line.
[1:14:29] Like you. You are just complacent with
[1:14:31] having a Rudiger and Militao for 40% of the season and then hope
[1:14:34] for the best because you're going to be scoring goals
[1:14:36] anyways. I just, I don't think it's
[1:14:39] necessarily Ancelotti's fault, but he does have some level of
[1:14:43] blame. To it, but I mean let's cut him
[1:14:44] some slack Carvajal out for the season Lucas Vasquez out for
[1:14:47] like 3 to four weeks I think now the.
[1:14:49] Tower for the season. Yeah, like.
[1:14:50] Let's cut him some slack, bro. All he has is Vinnie Rodrigo and
[1:14:53] Bape. Baltic, yeah.
[1:14:56] That's the problem. Oh.
[1:14:57] He only has to get all these good players.
[1:14:59] You gotta defend. You gotta defend brother.
[1:15:00] Some of these brothers are struggling bro.
[1:15:02] And also we saw a little bit of a digression from Chuomeni, like
[1:15:05] we're not seeing the same Real Madrid that we've seen in the
[1:15:08] past. That's Ancelotti.
[1:15:09] Until he's managing. Well, many has has played center
[1:15:11] back in the past. Maybe he's going to use him at
[1:15:13] center back. That's a little bit crazy kind
[1:15:14] of thing got left back. I don't know.
[1:15:15] There's it's a bad squad building to be honest, because
[1:15:19] that front 3 you could always you always went in with like I
[1:15:24] it. It's too much of A financial
[1:15:26] investment to just go in with the thinking of oh, they're
[1:15:27] going to figure it out. No, can't do that.
[1:15:30] That's. What they did in the that's what
[1:15:31] they do. A ball every time.
[1:15:32] They rely on these superstars. Oh ring ring bro who's calling?
[1:15:36] Is anything Zidan my friend. Ohh bro I think if anything
[1:15:39] Zidan calls and says I'm ready to come back.
[1:15:42] I I think I shallotte is getting shipped bro.
[1:15:44] I I think his legacy at Real Madrid.
[1:15:46] Bro Zidan has proven that he's the only in the world that can
[1:15:50] manage that many good players in one team.
[1:15:52] The Dan's the only guy that was able to do it.
[1:15:54] Yeah, but he left on a high. He left on a high.
[1:15:56] I imagine you, you're coming back and chances are, like you
[1:16:00] won't perform as well as you did.
[1:16:02] Everyone's going to put everything else that you did in
[1:16:03] question because everyone asked for that guy.
[1:16:06] He does never not been that guy, so I have no reason to think
[1:16:08] that he wouldn't be successful. It still doesn't change the fact
[1:16:10] that Real Madrid still don't have a pure striker.
[1:16:12] I don't yeah, I don't think he done solves the issue.
[1:16:14] I don't. I think there's a lot more to it
[1:16:16] than just a managerial thing. But Mbappe, what do you do?
[1:16:21] You boot, Vinny, Who do you boot?
[1:16:23] Who do you Who do you say? OK, yeah, you're going to have
[1:16:25] to stay on the bench, boss. I feel like Vinny, after scoring
[1:16:27] a hat trick this weekend, kind of prove he's undroppable.
[1:16:29] Improved the undropability of him.
[1:16:31] But the Mbappe is undroppable too.
[1:16:32] So it's like all of a sudden you're you're playing, you're
[1:16:34] playing him as a striker just by force because you have to.
[1:16:38] I don't know, it's it's tough. I don't think Zidane fixes it.
[1:16:41] Real Madrid though, decent result this weekend versus also
[1:16:45] so, but Madrid. I think the me line cancels that
[1:16:47] out. That's what I'm saying more and.
[1:16:49] More and more the problem is on credit.
[1:16:51] Brother. Also Suna does not push any.
[1:16:53] Needle doesn't move me unfortunately.
[1:16:55] Seven. That's what is 17th place in OH.
[1:16:56] No, and it's not looking basically relegation.
[1:16:58] You just, you just took four goals off also sooner, just like
[1:17:01] as frustration. Let's, let's, let's not sugar,
[1:17:04] let's, let's, let's add some light to it that they started
[1:17:08] the season off horribly and there's only three points behind
[1:17:10] Barcelona. Or, well, assuming they assume,
[1:17:13] assuming they win the game in hand.
[1:17:15] I know where you're trying to get to, but.
[1:17:16] In the game in hand game, game in hand merchant that I hear.
[1:17:19] Because, because I know, I know there's been a lot of yapping on
[1:17:21] this channel about Barcelona, their form, how good they've
[1:17:25] been, can they be better? And only three points behind,
[1:17:28] assuming they win the game in hand, only three points behind
[1:17:30] my brother. So Varva, I think you have a a
[1:17:33] couple things to say to some bars individual.
[1:17:35] I know you said some before, but if you have any last last
[1:17:37] remarks. For I mean, we spoke in that
[1:17:39] Barcelona pack for sure this week.
[1:17:40] This whole international bro, this whole international break
[1:17:43] for real if we can, if we speak in facts over here, but.
[1:17:46] Because that one also said that loss.
[1:17:48] Yes, and I will juice it for the whole international.
[1:17:51] Billy, Billy. He's got Monaco too on that.
[1:17:53] Monaco on my mind. Billy offside aside, how many
[1:17:56] shots did Barsa take this weekend on Target 0?
[1:18:00] Looking at like a one or two zero.
[1:18:03] Nice. This is a bad.
[1:18:05] So you guys can talk about so you guys can talk about that he
[1:18:07] had long shoes, whatever. I don't know what's long on the
[1:18:09] Wandowski. But you had two other wingers
[1:18:11] there to. Brothers score goal.
[1:18:12] You still didn't. You still didn't take a shot on
[1:18:13] targets. They also said dad world beaters
[1:18:15] is what I tell. Your striker to take off those
[1:18:17] Yee ass boots and then we we're good.
[1:18:19] We also see that six shots on target.
[1:18:20] Those clown shoots. Something wasn't clicking in
[1:18:22] that game, but they'll be fine I think.
[1:18:24] Barcelona, Loki got. This.
[1:18:26] I think they're Barcelona in crisis mode.
[1:18:28] Right, Yeah, I think the pack, everyone panic.
[1:18:29] I'm pressing the panic. But Real Madrid let them code.
[1:18:32] You're trusting you have Flick or Ancelotti right now.
[1:18:34] I'm saying sack, Flick, bring back Chavi because he knows the
[1:18:38] club and he's had success there before.
[1:18:40] It's like, is he done? You can't say no to Chavi, you
[1:18:42] know. Look at Varva trying to hold it
[1:18:44] in that line. Rage beating hard.
[1:18:45] If anyone's listening on Spotify, Apple Music, don't take
[1:18:48] him seriously right now. By the way, if you want to leave
[1:18:51] a review, five stars. Not a right time, yeah, not the
[1:18:55] right thing, bro, Definitely. Ain't get in a five star review
[1:18:57] after that brother. Crazy, crazy words.
[1:19:01] I mean, that was we, we spoke on some good topics and I feel like
[1:19:04] we got into like especially the beginning.
[1:19:05] I like the Man City talk and. We're going to do an extra 30
[1:19:07] minutes on I was. About to say that's what I was
[1:19:09] going to say, if you so for those of you who wanna listen to
[1:19:12] more of the podcast, we're not exactly sure the topics we're
[1:19:15] gonna be talking about on the on there, but we'll figure it out.
[1:19:17] We'll figure it out. Gonna be yapping.
[1:19:18] If you subscribe to our Patreon, you get to see an extra 30
[1:19:20] minutes of the pod. So this week specifically.
[1:19:22] This week specifically, so go check that out if that interests
[1:19:25] you. Aside from that, thank you for
[1:19:27] listening to this point. And I think we'll see them in
[1:19:29] episode 32. Yeah.
[1:19:30] Let's get it. I will still be speaking about
[1:19:31] Barcelona losing. Gulp.
[1:19:33] Enjoy.

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