# Arsenal Slip, Juve Historic defeat & Amorim Graded! | Box2Box Podcast EP 48

An episode of [Box2Box Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1743312473), 10 Mar 2025, 1 h 41 min.

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EPISODE 48 IS HERE! Arsenal lose some crucial points versus Man Utd, what would you grade Amorim's tenure so far? Nottingham also keeps defying expectations and seem as if they locked down that top 4 spot in the PL. In Serie A, Juventus get destroyed by Atalanta marking a historic loss... what do we think of Thiago Motta ! CHECK OUT OUR PATREON FOR BONUS CONTENT: https://www.patreon.com/Box2BoxShow Our main channel: @box2boxshow Instagram: Box2box.show TikTok: Box2box.show Twitter (X) : Box2Box_show Varvar's instagram: @varvar_b2b Pala's Instagram: @luca.palazzese Mili's Instagram: @amiliziano Ferms' Instagram: @fermini_ TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 INTRO 13:00 LETS TALK FOOTBALL

## Transcript

[0:00] Welcome back to the Boxer Box podcast.
[0:02] This is episode 48 and nothing new in the Prem.
[0:04] Both Manchester teams drop points.
[0:06] Where do they go from here? And in Seria, Juventus, with a
[0:08] historic loss to Atlanta for nothing.
[0:11] Is this the end of Monta's tenure at Juventus?
[0:14] And should European teams be looking into playing games in
[0:16] the USA? All that and more on the Boxer
[0:19] Box Podcast. Let's go.
[0:21] Wiggle, Your Honor. I'm sorry, Your Honor, I'm
[0:26] sorry. Welcome back boys, how we doing?
[0:56] Well, listen Sunday box to box banger out this weekend.
[1:00] This is true. This was this was honestly a
[1:02] very fun video to record like if you guys haven't seen it on our
[1:06] main channel, but Volvo put a lot of love into this video.
[1:09] We all put a lot of love into this video, So what did you guys
[1:12] once you saw it edited, What did you guys?
[1:14] Think I liked it. It's not our usual thing, we're
[1:16] not like debating and stuff, but I like the trivia sometimes.
[1:18] Historic ending also. Historic.
[1:20] For the channel. Historic ending.
[1:22] I'm not a. Questionable, questionable not
[1:24] with the the the people in the comments were saying, oh, firms
[1:27] in a Montana, but. I think, I think the host was
[1:30] kind of, I'm not gonna say who was in the final or anything.
[1:33] The host was very unfair. How?
[1:36] Brother, some of those questions.
[1:38] Don't spoil it, but how? Questions that the host pulled
[1:40] out for the two contestants they were.
[1:43] And one person got very easy questions and one person you're
[1:46] not insanely that is. Cap.
[1:47] And that is so Cap, yeah. And chances you're you're
[1:49] referring to one singular question and that one singular
[1:52] question. Nobody.
[1:53] Yeah, now. We don't want to spoil it
[1:55] because I was I was watching from the side and one person got
[1:59] robbed the. Host intentionally take a long
[2:01] bro, Sometimes you gotta questions.
[2:03] To get the other person in the game, but it's OK.
[2:05] Someone right out of time, too, yeah.
[2:07] Well. Conversations bro listen, this
[2:09] is just box the box there's a. There's always gonna be
[2:11] controversy. There's controversy.
[2:12] When dealing with boxed. The good ending.
[2:14] What can I say but. Yeah, I think the the initial
[2:17] response, I think the comments, they they really like the
[2:20] concept, they like the video. So, but mostly we like like we
[2:23] enjoyed. Yeah, we enjoyed that one.
[2:24] The process afterwards, it's just it's fun when it's a higher
[2:27] production video. Yeah.
[2:29] And like I can see getting, I can see us getting better at
[2:31] those type of videos. And I still know that it's it's
[2:34] sick to see that we have a lot more potential to make them even
[2:37] better. And there were so many post
[2:39] production issues this video, it wasn't even, it wasn't even
[2:42] funny because you, you audio wise, we had all our mics set up
[2:48] and everything. And then you get, you get all
[2:50] the, the, the mic files and you're like, God damn, this
[2:55] one's not as easy to use as the last time.
[2:57] So then you're contacting audio people.
[2:59] How do I fix it? How do I fix it?
[3:00] I don't know any of this shit. So for me it's it was kind of a
[3:03] learning experience also. How many?
[3:05] Five with 10 different mics at some point.
[3:08] No, it was 6 mics, one for each of us.
[3:11] But it's just the my computer can't even.
[3:14] My computer can't even handle. I had to ask producer T for his
[3:19] computer so I can edit the best computer.
[3:21] My computer was going to explode editing this file so.
[3:25] Varvara was at the Varvara was at the studio for hours on end.
[3:28] My God, there's. There's a learning curve, I'm
[3:30] sure we'll we'll pass through it, but.
[3:32] And we do, we do have kind of a, a pretty big announcement.
[3:37] We are getting a A. We do have a headquarters in HQ.
[3:41] Oh. Yeah, we are.
[3:43] So it's not really an announcer for them, it's more.
[3:44] Fraud. It's cool.
[3:46] It's cool. Like as we're moving along, like
[3:48] we want to include them also into our journey.
[3:50] Yeah. So us getting an HQ is kind of
[3:52] like a a big stepping stone, you know?
[3:55] Yeah, the box, the box office. Yeah, exactly.
[3:57] So should we? Should we?
[3:59] A cool, cool times are ahead in the box.
[4:01] The box, The world. And we just opened our PO Box,
[4:02] which is exciting. And so far, we've already gotten
[4:05] like, people asking us certain things, a bunch of stuff.
[4:07] You want to send us some kids? I mean, like, I got this
[4:10] Huddersfield Town kit, but that was that.
[4:13] Umbro. This was directly from Umbro.
[4:14] Umbro exclusive right there this.
[4:16] Might be one of the. The only Huddersfield kid.
[4:18] In Canada, probably no. That's a nice kid.
[4:21] It's. Not.
[4:22] Can you name me one player that's played for Huddersfield?
[4:24] Danny Ward. No, Why the fuck would Danny
[4:27] Ward ever play for Huddersfield? Danny Ward currently plays for
[4:30] for. Are you sure?
[4:31] Huddersfield it's possible Danny Ward used to play for Liverpool,
[4:34] but I don't understand why he played for Huddersfield.
[4:36] But Aaron Moy, I don't know if you remember Aaron Moy,
[4:39] Australian center, mid baller, that's.
[4:41] M0 0Y. MOOY, Yeah.
[4:43] OK, then, yeah. Millie No, not that.
[4:45] Danny Ward. The other, The other Danny.
[4:48] Wait, what's Danny Ward you're thinking about?
[4:49] The one that plays at Leicester right now.
[4:51] Yeah, I used to play at Liverpool.
[4:52] What the fuck, Danny? Ward, wait a minute.
[4:55] You tell me. That Danny Ward played at at
[4:57] Hudderfield too. I'm thinking about another Danny
[4:59] Ward. Damn, so Huddersfield just
[5:01] filled with. No, it might.
[5:02] It might trip. This is not the Danny Ward that
[5:04] played at Liverpool. Goalkeeper go a striker No.
[5:09] Striker and goalkeeper. Played at Rotterdam.
[5:11] Yeah, no can no. It's a legend right there,
[5:13] Rotherham. Rotterdam.
[5:15] Rotterdam, Netherlands. And this is the Danny Ward.
[5:18] What a coincidence, Rotherham. I named you two players so.
[5:21] There we go. He knows his knowledge.
[5:22] He gets to wear the kit. 2 for one special right now in the
[5:25] Danny Wards. That's never mind that inter
[5:28] defender. We always make jokes of brother,
[5:30] but I see. But I see brother.
[5:31] I see, brother. The legend, bro.
[5:32] But he played for my club. No, he played for Milan.
[5:35] The brother, yeah. It was a big thing when he was
[5:37] there anyways. That was the funniest you had
[5:39] The bait was hilarious. This was maybe five years ago.
[5:42] We're having the debate with Millie that Inter had no
[5:45] legends, and he pulls up a black and white 1940s picture.
[5:48] He said we do have legends and he started typing them out.
[5:52] Faquetti, Suarez, Suarez, Luis Suarez.
[5:57] What? The first Suarez.
[5:59] You were like, I'm giving you Luis Suarez, not even the
[6:02] biggest Suarez, even though Luis Suarez back in the day was a
[6:05] baller. Yeah, it was a baller door also,
[6:07] I believe also. Winner.
[6:08] Not with Inter, but yeah. And then he put Baresi and then
[6:12] in quotations brother, because he knew.
[6:14] Because I'm like I'm I'm working with people that are so dim
[6:18] witted that I know I'm going to get a comment.
[6:20] Oh, but really doesn't believe for.
[6:22] You so you take precautions from.
[6:24] Like don't, don't try to question him.
[6:26] I hurt you. I think that made.
[6:27] It hurt me in the end of the day.
[6:28] It backfired a lot harder than I thought it would.
[6:31] Because it made you realize in context, then you have to say
[6:33] the brother of the better one. Even the biggest brother that.
[6:36] What are you gonna do? It's like a people with doggy
[6:37] situation. His brother, yeah.
[6:40] Both brothers played at the same time with two different teams
[6:42] rival. Crazy work, bro.
[6:43] So yeah. Every time there was a Derby,
[6:44] they did play against each other.
[6:45] Must. Have been a weird time at
[6:46] Christmas dinners. Must have been, yeah, I wouldn't
[6:49] know. The two rounds, Yeah, two rounds
[6:51] is kind of like that now. And the dad especially because
[6:53] of that. Those are weird Christmas
[6:54] dinners. Yeah, yeah.
[6:57] Anyway. Besides that I mean next week
[7:00] F1. Next week, F1.
[7:01] Yes, yes, one. Premiere.
[7:02] So I'm going to. Don't worry, the people that are
[7:04] interested in the F1, I know they have our talks.
[7:05] We're going to, we're going to get into a next.
[7:06] I don't want to talk about testing and takeaways from that,
[7:09] but Ferrari signed bagging. I was, I was, I was know you're
[7:13] bad, you're bad. I was here yesterday or, or
[7:15] Friday and I was with Mellie and he's like, bro, Chrysler's
[7:21] joining F1, Cadillac, Cadillac, whatever.
[7:23] Same shit. Cadillac Cadillac Cadillac
[7:28] Cadillac Chrysler, Cadillac Yacht.
[7:31] No, no, no. Oh my God.
[7:33] The car you give me is so. Crazy right now.
[7:36] No, that's Chrysler. The Stalantis on.
[7:38] Yeah, yeah, GM on. Whatever, Cadillac is joining F1
[7:42] and I'm like bro. As the 11th team that.
[7:44] He's freaking out. I'm like, bro, that's like
[7:46] adding Ipswich to the Premier League.
[7:47] Like who cares? You don't know about racing bro.
[7:50] Cadillac, bro, Cadillac is not going to win an F1 title.
[7:53] Bro Cadillac has racing division.
[7:54] Yeah, Cadillac is not winning an F1.
[7:56] Yeah, but it's. Not competing with McLaren,
[7:58] yeah, but it's not competing with Ferrari.
[8:00] It's not competing with. It's I don't know about formula.
[8:02] One, yeah, it's not correlated like in football.
[8:04] Why in your in your opinion, does Audi have a chance 'cause
[8:07] they made the RA? Audi is a more prestigious brand
[8:09] than they will invest more money into their F1.
[8:12] Steve. Bro Cadillac has to worry about
[8:14] selling fucking cars before fucking.
[8:16] F and Audi doesn't. Audi sells a lot more cars than
[8:18] Cadillac. Is it is in the racing division
[8:20] to get more sales? Brother 1960s they were buying
[8:24] Cadillacs. It's not the 19.
[8:25] Bro, do you know, do you know about the Haas?
[8:27] You know about the Haas team, Yeah.
[8:28] How much they work with garbage? They have a good car.
[8:31] Yeah, but they have like they're in they're in other racing.
[8:33] They're like in M saw they're they're in a bunch of other
[8:35] things. They have a fool.
[8:36] You know, small Hass Hass Hass. That's like that's like that's
[8:40] like a a player saying he played well in the Guatemalan 4th
[8:44] division and moved up to F1. You can't.
[8:46] You can't compare like you can't make the comparison 'cause you
[8:49] don't know what the fuck. Is ipsa you keep saying?
[8:52] IMSA what the. Fuck is what does IMSA stand
[8:54] for? International Motorsport
[8:56] Association So don't you're a. Smart.
[9:00] Ass motherfucker Millie. Like, you know, you know, like
[9:03] le man, like 24 hours in le man. Like it's super procedural.
[9:05] That's like Ipswich, right? No, that's actually one of the
[9:07] most No 24. Hours.
[9:09] I know how. Races.
[9:10] I don't like races in Le Mans OK with the hyper like in hyper.
[9:13] Well. Or they just finish mid table.
[9:15] They finish mid table. So if you're making.
[9:17] Hyper, but it's not about finishing mid table.
[9:19] It's like. They added a useless scene
[9:21] that's never gonna compete for anything.
[9:22] Definitely interesting. Well.
[9:23] This is not football. They have position they have,
[9:26] but that's like saying on UNA chel team is never going to do
[9:28] well. That's literally what you're
[9:29] saying. No.
[9:30] Yes, because there's. NHL, there's literally there.
[9:32] There's literally things and stuff to promote as much
[9:36] competition as possible. OK, so now F1, I wanted you to
[9:39] say that because that proves exactly why you're wrong.
[9:41] Because the Formula One is exactly that.
[9:43] The lower table teams have much more wind tunnel.
[9:45] That's why Williams is always fucking last.
[9:47] That's why all these fucking teams are.
[9:49] You need to. Know the.
[9:50] Same teams who are always at the bottom are always at the bottom,
[9:52] and the teams who are always at the top are always at the top.
[9:54] Because Williams threw. Williams threw the last 3-4
[9:57] years because they said OK, we're going to wait till the
[9:58] regulations are updated and then we're going to bring in Carlos
[10:01] Sainz and Alexander. And that team is going to be
[10:03] very good in 2020 season. They have a good driver duel.
[10:05] Not just that bro, Aston Martin is going to be dog shit this
[10:08] season. Very prestigious car racing
[10:09] association. Aston Martin is nowhere near a
[10:12] Ferrari or a Red Bull or a or a. Your best argument is crazy.
[10:17] Your best argument sitting Red Bull like next to Ferrari No,
[10:21] but your best argument is Red Bull who came in with no like
[10:24] prior mechanical but their Honda.
[10:26] It's no, they were. Well, they were, they were.
[10:28] I think they were the Jaguar team.
[10:30] They I think they were the Jaguar team.
[10:31] They bought Jaguar and then they made their own division.
[10:33] Listen, in Formula One, if you're a well run team, over
[10:36] time you do get better and better.
[10:37] You can move. And that's the thing about F1 is
[10:40] just because you're not that good, you can still be
[10:42] entertaining because there's always mid mid table fights.
[10:44] But but even for Cadillac too, getting in another like an
[10:47] actually reputable American team in F1 that is in Haas, yeah,
[10:50] that is in Haas. Like it's going to make a lot of
[10:53] a lot more waves than Haas did in the States.
[10:55] So anyways, that's a good move. But I once, once the first race
[10:58] happens, I'm sure we'll have a conversation about even actually
[11:01] going. To see where everyone
[11:02] prediction, quick prediction, I'm saying, I'm saying McLaren
[11:05] is going to be the the Red Bull like the like, you know, our Red
[11:08] Bull for like the standard. That's McLaren this season.
[11:10] I don't know, I don't think noise.
[11:11] Verstappen's winning. That's Verstappen's winning.
[11:15] Red Bull's winning. I don't.
[11:16] Know I'm probably going to say I think last year Ferrari had a 12
[11:19] first race. I'll probably say the same
[11:21] thing. Yeah.
[11:22] Safari won two. I'm not confident.
[11:24] You're saying Ferrari 1/2 on the season?
[11:27] No 1212 for the first race. We don't give a fuck about the
[11:29] first race. What's your This is for the
[11:30] season? This is for the season I thought
[11:32] it was. I thought it was first race.
[11:33] Who? I said?
[11:34] I said the first race, brother. Who cares about the first race
[11:36] bro? The Season.
[11:37] And that's a conversation for another day.
[11:38] Who's going to win the first match week?
[11:40] No bro, we want to know the gold stuff.
[11:42] Who's going to win the season? Different than match weeks.
[11:44] I don't know. My heart wants the Clairwell
[11:45] Champion Ferrari constructors. What do you want me to?
[11:49] Tell you, I'm saying Ferrari's lift something this year.
[11:51] Shock does at least a construction.
[11:52] Did you see Lewis Hamilton said him and Clara, the best driver
[11:55] duo in the history of F. One, then our consent and Alan
[11:58] Prost don't exist. Bro even Hamilton and and
[12:00] Fernando Alonzo. Yeah, rookie Hamilton.
[12:03] I don't know. This is kind of cooking, though.
[12:05] They're cooking. We'll see.
[12:06] We'll see how that dynamic works.
[12:07] First time I'm excited for F1 in a while.
[12:09] I do not want Hamilton to win. You say this in the beginning of
[12:12] every year and then you end up disappointed at the end of
[12:14] every. Welcome to the tifo, Sifra.
[12:17] Emily, would you take a Hamilton World Driver Championship?
[12:19] Not before Leclerc. No, but let's say before
[12:21] Leclerc. Gotta think team first, team
[12:25] above all. So if if he wins the
[12:27] championship then. Ferrari either.
[12:29] Either Hamilton gets the world drivers.
[12:31] Yeah, and Ferrari and Ferrari don't get the constructors.
[12:34] Or Ferrari constructors and then someone else wins championship.
[12:37] Yeah, I don't know if that's. A good thing then?
[12:38] Ferrari. I just don't want Hamilton to
[12:40] win and I don't want I don't want to pass Schumacher and be
[12:42] considered like in the history books is the best.
[12:44] Yeah, I know, but we brought him in to win.
[12:46] So like it's it's going to happen eventually, but I want
[12:48] Leclair to win one, at least I hope.
[12:50] I'm hoping this is the year. That's El Bambino, right?
[12:52] There, that is the El Bijou green chipe, that's what.
[12:54] He is exactly. Yeah, we'll see.
[12:56] I mean back-to-back to football now, but we'll start it off
[12:59] gentlemen, United, Arsenal ends 11.
[13:02] Before we recorded, there was a lot of differing opinions as to
[13:06] how the game went to different perspectives.
[13:08] So you know, Paulo has a bit of skin in the game with Arsenal,
[13:11] Varva, Man United. So ends up on one boys.
[13:14] What did you think of the match? Just like a fucking mid off bro.
[13:18] I really don't want to speak because I know it's going to
[13:20] just to a rage bait. Session broke, we don't rage.
[13:24] Bit off. Bro they scored off of a of off
[13:26] of a free kick and, and, and on the live stream.
[13:29] I I remember when we last played them, Arsenal can only score off
[13:33] of set pieces and now this is the rage beta and now Manchester
[13:36] United. I don't want to give my their
[13:38] their last. Prevail bro.
[13:39] Their last seven out of their eight.
[13:40] Goals me keeping my cooler head involves me the not speaking.
[13:44] And it was relatively it we were.
[13:46] Our power better the 15th place in the table, you realize that?
[13:50] That's so much, yeah, but you think you're Wesley
[13:52] underperforming. You're not a 15th place team.
[13:54] Players in our team deserve to be 15th.
[13:56] Other than Bruno Fernandez, we are.
[13:58] I don't think he's wrong. We are.
[14:00] Completely. Wrong.
[14:01] OK. OK, we're a 12th place team
[14:04] that's slightly underperforming. You prefer that I?
[14:07] Don't think you can. If you look at our starting
[14:09] eleven, bro, did you realize in Big 25 we pulled up to Arsenal
[14:13] big? Casamiro and Ericsson.
[14:15] Big Casamiro, Big Ericsson was Rally Dallow wingback Blindle
[14:20] off at the back. Yeah, I don't know.
[14:21] What the fuck? Was that line last season was
[14:23] worse? No way wasn't the lineups were.
[14:25] Worse. No way wasn't.
[14:25] Who was there that wasn't here? No.
[14:27] OK, but you're Rashford? Bro you were playing who?
[14:30] Who was your center back duel last season with the injuries?
[14:32] It was. Wire.
[14:34] Lecha Wire No. No with injuries because Lecha
[14:37] was out. But OK, but you were talking
[14:39] about with injuries. I know by some you.
[14:41] Now, our back line's pretty healthy right now. 10 Hog
[14:44] competed with a we. Just don't have Lecha competed.
[14:47] What's competed? What's competed in your head?
[14:50] Where the fuck was it going? It was going like this.
[14:53] It was fucking straight downhill.
[14:54] Look at the beginning of look. Literally you're just rage.
[14:57] Made where? A month?
[14:58] Where did you finish in the Premier League last season?
[14:59] It's not about last season. 10 Hog got this season and we were
[15:02] in fucking 11th when he got sacked.
[15:04] You have, I'm saying you have better players this season than
[15:07] 10 Hog last season and he finished in the Europa League
[15:09] spot. OK, I'm sorry, but 10 Hog was
[15:11] here this season at the beginning of the season.
[15:12] And he was doing better than Amaroo was doing.
[15:15] He was. No, he wasn't 10.
[15:17] Hog was. I mean, who needs?
[15:18] To back that up. He left him so you were.
[15:20] You wouldn't have sacked. That it's different.
[15:22] Times I would have sacked 10 hog.
[15:23] So 10 Hog was doing an amazing job in your opinion?
[15:25] No, he wasn't. But I'm doing a shit job.
[15:28] OK, yeah, for sure bro. Four months with the same.
[15:31] Four months with the shit with the same team and you've dropped
[15:33] bro 10 Hog left in 12th after 12 matches you guys were still 12.
[15:36] Now you're 14th. Well, I mean make it make sense.
[15:39] Well, listen, you could talk about like 10 Hog and I'm all
[15:43] day. It's just more like this
[15:44] specific game. Like did you feel that United
[15:48] kind of dropped point? Like you think United could have
[15:50] came out with a win here? I think Arsenal, it's Arsenal
[15:54] right now, are not good. And Man United played good.
[15:57] I mean played good. I mean good analysis.
[16:00] I don't know about good. Right now Arsenal are not in a
[16:02] good moment. So we lost the West Ham at home.
[16:04] You're not in a good moment. We lost 10 to West Ham at home.
[16:07] That's like West Ham is united right now.
[16:09] Level. They're around each other in the
[16:12] standings. What's the what's the analysis
[16:14] here That Arsenal are shit? No Arsenal earned the Lol right
[16:17] now so. But they beat the team that
[16:19] you've lost 271 though. What the and?
[16:22] Now it goes. Here we go, it's the loop.
[16:24] The rage made back. We're sending it back if I.
[16:27] Don't understand the rage made it doesn't work.
[16:29] Arsenal, Arsenal. Arsenal tied to United.
[16:32] OK, let's go. Let's play the results game, OK,
[16:35] I hate that. Arsenal tied to United.
[16:37] So that means United. Arsenal tied with Arsenal.
[16:39] Arsenal. Arsenal beat 7/1 and PSB beat
[16:43] you. That's the we Man United would
[16:44] beat. You've A7.
[16:45] One, but you meant this beat. PSV in the first game so we have
[16:49] one, one, so tag one, one and one.
[16:51] So that means you're tied with. So that means I would beat you
[16:53] 7. One.
[16:53] So we drew to Arsenal, we drew to United.
[16:55] No, that's not high. We lost to United.
[16:57] Yeah, 7/1. Fuck.
[16:59] It's crazy, but you guys tied to Liverpool this season?
[17:02] Yeah. So we're so we drew to
[17:03] Liverpool. You didn't tie Liverpool.
[17:06] You got through the results. Through the results.
[17:08] Thing that you were doing. But I mean Bruno free kick
[17:13] master class, I'm not going. To big chance to miss it was a
[17:16] very. Could have had two.
[17:17] There was a lot of chances. The good, the bad and the ugly
[17:19] of Bruno Fernandez today, Yeah. What a free bad the man of the
[17:22] match, but sure, yeah. They missed the sitter in the
[17:23] 90th minute, but yeah. David RYA.
[17:25] David RYA, very good. David RYA was not mad at the
[17:28] match, but he was fucking insane.
[17:30] Like, yeah. He saved, he saved Arsenal.
[17:32] This game could have been a lot worse, but Arsenal did have some
[17:36] decent moments. Yeah, we not going to take clear
[17:38] cut chances. I think Manchester have more
[17:39] than half chances. The worst part is that you say
[17:43] that knowing it's going to piss me off.
[17:44] But I said that that with full honesty in the other way.
[17:47] When I first got here. We watched the highlights bro.
[17:49] Man United should have scored four goals in that second.
[17:51] Half and we should have scored three.
[17:52] So enhance you. So you were down -1 on the on
[17:56] the expected goals but you dominated the second-half?
[17:59] How? How's the logic?
[18:01] The technique G I'm curious. Bro get the fuck?
[18:05] You're not claiming .02. And.
[18:08] You win. .3. No, it's not.
[18:11] I'm curious, it's like XG's AX G's not.
[18:13] Personally, I thought you guys both had this one.
[18:15] Point -5 yeah 1.65 the 1.61 with six both shots on time I.
[18:19] Thought it was pretty 5050 in terms of chances.
[18:22] XG's a false start, we all know that.
[18:25] In this situation, yes, 'cause that MAZ rally, MAZ rally
[18:28] chance, that's a goal 99. That's just so ridiculous.
[18:30] Wonder Save. But it's MAZ Rally.
[18:33] It doesn't matter who, Anyone that's a shot directly on the
[18:36] net, the goalie sprawling the whole other way, it doesn't
[18:38] matter who the fuck shot it. If that was Holland and that got
[18:42] saved, are you saying oh, that was Holland?
[18:44] No. No, but if it's Bruno or instead
[18:46] of Maserati that's taking that shot, I have more faith in
[18:47] Bruno, obviously. Bro it was a good shot I don't
[18:50] care who the fuck took it. I don't care it was a good shot.
[18:52] RYA made a ridiculous save. I I think Man United played well
[18:56] today. I see translation like building
[18:59] blocks too for next season just. Looks like you have tactics
[19:01] whereas. I agree.
[19:02] You never looked at your. I now nowadays I'm I'm just
[19:07] waiting for the summer window if I'm being for real and Europa
[19:10] League, I kind of care about Europa League just because
[19:12] that's CL if anything. How many times this guy said I
[19:15] don't give a like I don't? Really fuck about Like no, but
[19:18] you have to understand if I finish 4th and I win Europa
[19:22] League, I don't care about winning Europa League, but I'm
[19:24] 15th. I want to win the Europa League
[19:25] because I have no chance. I'm making top four.
[19:27] So my only way in to see 100% winning Europa League.
[19:29] But this is what we told you. The trophy doesn't matter.
[19:32] The trophy itself doesn't matter.
[19:35] It saves. It saves your.
[19:36] Season, but your season is still like.
[19:38] You guys were trying to flex Atlanta winning Europa League.
[19:41] They beat Leverkus as a as a sign of Syria being very strong.
[19:45] Or he was. I think 1 enter I would too
[19:48] enter. Rome and Atlanta were all in in
[19:50] their respective finals. I I don't care.
[19:52] About that, yeah. But at that moment, Atlanta was
[19:55] not a Champions League Yes team. They weren't.
[19:58] Won the ticket. Meet the Champions.
[20:00] League at every year before and they're about to make Champions
[20:02] League this year also, yeah. Building block they beat
[20:04] Leverkusen in the final that's we don't we don't care about the
[20:07] the Europa League. They beat Leverkusen in the
[20:09] final, which is now you see Leverkusen, it's a good team.
[20:12] Like it's context and that's got fucking.
[20:14] Pumped and dumped on, yeah. We all said Bayern Munich and we
[20:16] all said that because we go through.
[20:19] Yeah, like, I don't know. So I don't know, are we the
[20:21] barometers of? Of 0 ball knowledge?
[20:24] Yes. Yes, exactly.
[20:25] But so then, so then let's say Manchester United players, they,
[20:28] they end up winning the Europa League and they start taking
[20:30] celebratory photos and stuff. You're gonna go on there and
[20:32] say. No, they they won a trophy they
[20:34] deserve. Nothing.
[20:36] You're acting like what? Do you mean I'm actually for
[20:38] you, for you, winning, winning. Tell them, leave the trophy
[20:40] there, leave it there. Don't even bring it back 'cause
[20:42] it's not important. When I listen to this saying we
[20:44] made CL. It's what you're saying exactly.
[20:46] I am not labeling a season a success if I win Europa.
[20:49] League. No.
[20:50] Nobody Who should? If Milan win the fucking super
[20:53] Copa, the fucking who gots they they should celebrate winning a
[20:57] trophy but who cares like the. Season was a failure.
[21:00] At the grand scheme of it, Man United still have 8 to 9 shit
[21:04] players and they're starting 11 every week.
[21:05] It's literally like you're going downhill, you have a little bump
[21:07] and then you're still going downhill.
[21:09] That's what it is like. It doesn't save your season.
[21:11] Well, it does save your season, but it's a failure.
[21:13] I'm going back to my original point though, with the Amarim's
[21:16] tactics now looking like it's actually bringing fruit.
[21:19] My issue with Amarim, Amarim's tactics is not in games against
[21:22] Arsenal. It's more in games against like
[21:24] the lower league teams because where we need to actually be
[21:27] like progressive and actually try and score.
[21:31] Yes, because that's the main issue to be honest.
[21:33] And. In theory that should get fixed
[21:35] when you buy a players that aren't toy.
[21:37] That aren't? Yeah, exactly.
[21:38] Doesn't help with oil. I think Coyling actually needs
[21:40] to be arrested for crimes against humanity, but that's a
[21:42] whole. Other thump the Pavlovich in the
[21:44] back of the cruiser at the same. Time.
[21:45] Oh my God. At that point, do you mind if I
[21:46] heard about this guy? Oh my God, that but my, my
[21:49] predicted. Oh my God, this is the best day.
[21:51] Ever I saw, we saw the best. Day Ever.
[21:53] Quasimodo predicted this. Exactly.
[21:54] Literally. But my entire if we get knocked
[21:59] out of Europa League, it's basically just summer.
[22:02] I'm just worried about the summer and I, I don't want to
[22:07] see AAI don't know if you actually look at our 23 or 2419,
[22:12] depending if you include youth prospects and all that.
[22:14] I actually think we need to sell like 1817 people.
[22:17] Fair. So you have, so you have a lot.
[22:18] To do and a lot of players that I would consider having faith
[22:20] with last year coming into the year, I would consider now like
[22:24] Onana, I'm I'm tired like Onana no listen, listen, listen,
[22:29] listen. He he's he's good.
[22:33] It's just you. You.
[22:35] A goalie can't make so many mistakes because after a while
[22:38] you start being the problem. Start dying to.
[22:40] It you agree right? I've been so manya exactly the
[22:42] same. But Manya is not yet at that
[22:45] level or Nana has been at that level for way too.
[22:47] Long I don't know well since he joined.
[22:48] Manchester is versus harassment. Really isn't but OK.
[22:51] Crazy that you're getting looped into this.
[22:53] It's actually not that crazy bro.
[22:54] Manya has had three bad game OK maybe this season you can say
[22:57] this whole season he was garbage.
[22:59] That doesn't take away that. Or Nana has been shit for the
[23:01] past three years. OK past Onana.
[23:04] A player, a player like Dallow, who is a decent player but in
[23:10] the system has no obvious fit, should be moved on In the summer
[23:14] and past United management's would have kept them and just
[23:18] tried to force a a square in a in.
[23:21] What's a saying? A square in a circle hole.
[23:23] Yeah, exactly and circle. In a square hole, I don't.
[23:25] Know a peg? Square peg in a.
[23:26] Square peg, Yeah, so but a player like Dalo to me come
[23:32] summertime should be out even though he's better than what we
[23:35] have right now in terms of right wing back options if.
[23:38] It really, it really depends. You replace him with like.
[23:42] It's all contingent. I think honestly, wing backs in
[23:45] back threes are probably the easiest position to find world
[23:48] football, yeah. You can find right backs that
[23:50] are offensive. The issue with Dalo right now is
[23:52] that this guy, this first of all, this guy hasn't been rested
[23:55] in the game. I think in like I don't even
[23:57] know how many matches. I think 30 games in rows.
[23:59] Your backup? Who would be your backup?
[24:00] There's no backup there exactly, but but he one good thing about
[24:04] that low is that he's never injured and he's a he can play
[24:06] 92.3 times a week no issue, which is good, but still I don't
[24:12] want him playing 92 three times a week.
[24:15] That makes sense, but. So, but I I saw striker for me
[24:18] is the biggest one. In the summer I saw links to
[24:20] Mateta. I would bring him.
[24:21] In you would bring instant Jean Philippe Mateta I.
[24:23] Actually think he's a very good player.
[24:25] I I I rate him. But you, you can't.
[24:27] I don't know. I I feel like.
[24:29] Yeah, go for a young like. No, I think that's what they.
[24:32] Did upgrade striker like a recently?
[24:34] Proven young. Proven.
[24:36] Rasmus Hoyland, three years. Ago.
[24:38] He's really young. I I told you not to rely on
[24:40] Rasmus. But you know what, weirdly
[24:42] through our banter era, our striker position was actually
[24:45] always good. Yeah, we've never had a, we had
[24:48] Kalani, we had Lukaku, like we always had good strikers.
[24:52] And then Rasmus Hoyland joined my club and I actually think
[24:55] Xerxes actually been playing well recently as of recently so.
[24:57] The starting spot. I would I would say he still
[25:00] deserves a starting spot. I'm comfortable going into next
[25:02] year with that's. That's a bad take you.
[25:06] Didn't even hear what the fuck I said.
[25:11] This guy's uncomfortable going into next year with just Bruno
[25:14] up top. That's amazing.
[25:15] Oh. That's a bad day.
[25:17] Whoa. Finish your finish your xerxy
[25:19] thing. Yeah, my bad.
[25:20] No, it wasn't about Xerxy itself.
[25:22] It was just you said I'm comfortable going into next year
[25:25] with our attacking options including Xerxy Garnacho, Bruno
[25:30] Ahmad and I'm sure. You didn't start the sentence
[25:32] like that before. You said I'm I'm happy,
[25:34] Startable. No.
[25:35] I said I'm starting. I'm.
[25:37] Not, but with with an addition. You're not winning a Premier
[25:39] League with those options. Yeah, I know you can make,
[25:40] that's why. But you're saying with an
[25:42] addition of an extra striker? With, I like if you added Jean
[25:45] Philip Matetta to that, I'm happy with that combination.
[25:49] He's good but I just find like bro he's not proven once again.
[25:54] Sure, but Tehran wasn't proven before going to interim.
[25:56] Was a big risk and he was for free.
[25:59] Yeah, I think it's a bit more consistent.
[26:00] Are you fucking open by this guy scored single digit goals.
[26:03] I'm munching glad back he you guys literally signed so more
[26:07] reliable. But you signed you signed a
[26:09] winger to play striker who scored single digit goals.
[26:12] But it's more stay. On top.
[26:13] Also in a worse team, but. Listen, I'm I'm just saying that
[26:15] Jean Filamenta is gonna cost you A50 what, 5040?
[26:18] Million. Okay, bags minimum.
[26:21] One was free ones 40 million, but I, I don't know if you, if
[26:23] you're content with all these $40 million stop gaps, you know.
[26:27] Not a stop gap. He's 27 years old.
[26:30] But. That's not a stop gap.
[26:31] You can play top level. Yes, I agree.
[26:33] Not the future. Come on.
[26:35] It's, it's not. I wouldn't.
[26:37] First of all, he's a player that I think if given a bigger club,
[26:40] he could scale his production. I think he he's a very good
[26:44] player. Every time I watch him, yes,
[26:46] he's he scores 19 goals a year. He's at 16 right now, he's
[26:48] scored 19. That's a lot for the past two
[26:50] years, though, in 40 games. Also pen no as a pen taker.
[26:54] So he's not even on pen. That's true.
[26:55] So. Bro, he's done it for two years.
[26:57] Yeah, years Max. But.
[26:58] He plays right now the same exact formation as Ameren plays,
[27:01] so it. Would work bro.
[27:02] It would work. But I think, I don't, I don't
[27:04] think he's joining to be Allen. He's not joining to be Allen.
[27:07] But what about he's better than Hoyland right now?
[27:08] We have literally a black hole up top.
[27:11] I think you guys understand. Are we doing a fucking massive
[27:14] gaping white hole? And Ferricho Romano said that
[27:18] Man United are circling around Gilkadesh this summer.
[27:21] All see. That's an upgrade.
[27:22] Who's available? Supposedly Ferricho Romano said.
[27:25] There's a gentleman's agreement to release him for 60 to 75
[27:28] million. Amazing.
[27:29] So like, you take that over Matata any day.
[27:32] I you just you just called out Matata being unproven.
[27:35] Listen, Jokersh, Jokersh is super unproven, but once again,
[27:38] you're falling into the same you're falling into the same
[27:41] exact thing that we did with Anthony.
[27:43] You bought. Yeah, he had an insane Champions
[27:45] League run before joining us. So we can't say that you've
[27:47] spent 100 mil on Anthony because 10 Hog knows what he's getting
[27:50] with Anthony. Lisa Martinez, same shit.
[27:52] Oh, Nana, same shit. I don't want to buy a player, I
[27:56] want it to be consensus across the board.
[27:58] Everyone agrees that he so then, not just the manager, wants.
[28:01] Him so then target an Aussie man.
[28:03] Yeah, I but I don't Aussie man I think has bigger issues.
[28:05] Wages are higher one, the financial package is going to be
[28:08] the same. Bringing in a guarantee proven
[28:11] that. He's not a guarantee.
[28:12] In my personal mind, he's not He's.
[28:13] Easily 20 goes a season. You have to understand, OK,
[28:16] we're going to bring this issue back up.
[28:18] Physically head and be head and shoulders are beyond above
[28:22] anyone in Syria. But said he has not a physical
[28:25] league bro. So if you join a physical league
[28:27] he's he. What do you mean he's doing it
[28:29] in? He did it in Champions League,
[28:30] he's done it, I said. Let's and.
[28:32] It's, it's not even, it's not even that bro.
[28:34] He's a, he's a physical demon. He's perfect.
[28:36] In the pretty AH. But for the Premier?
[28:39] No, you just see a physical demon in city.
[28:41] Ah is just good he's. He's a battling ground, like
[28:44] he'll get you a goal no matter what though.
[28:46] What What's the difference physically between Aussie man
[28:48] and Mateta? Can you let me know?
[28:49] Oh. My God, different play styles,
[28:52] different play styles. He.
[28:53] Makes that title. It's not about the height, it's
[28:56] about the way they play. Mateta is more of a link up
[28:58] striker. Ozyman is just a guy who runs
[29:00] that net. We all know this.
[29:01] You just watch the game bro. Yeah.
[29:04] Bro it's like it's like comparing.
[29:05] Xerxy with a Hoyland. They're not the same player.
[29:08] I don't know why you wouldn't even take.
[29:10] What the fuck am I? Hearing crazy but 75,000,000 for
[29:13] jokers. Don't mind if I do it mono.
[29:15] Ozyman has seven goals in Champions League in 12 games.
[29:19] Like, that's all right. It's nothing fucking crazy.
[29:21] My go Who do you want, Messi? 7:00 and 12:00.
[29:23] And you're 7:00 and 12:00 if you're competing, competing for
[29:26] the two. Seasons ago he had 6:00 and
[29:28] 8:00. In Syria, in Champions League,
[29:31] he. Had five and six, but then last
[29:33] year he had two and six. I don't, I don't know how
[29:35] you're. And we're a lot.
[29:37] Man United is a lot closer to Napoli of last season than they
[29:40] are to Napoli of three seasons. I'm so surprised you you're
[29:43] debating. Awesome man.
[29:44] I wouldn't. Science.
[29:45] I wouldn't have a site. Because he's on the.
[29:47] Headline once again, no, but egos.
[29:50] He has an ego that's undebatable I think.
[29:52] I thought that too and that's why even Juventus because I'm
[29:56] seeing rumors. I don't know if he actually has
[29:58] an ego or is being an Napoli with the Laurentiis with the
[30:01] problem. Football clubs have to know
[30:04] something that we don't because a player that's available like
[30:06] that for 65,000,000 going to Galatasaray doesn't make sense.
[30:09] I I think it's De la Dente's Napoli and it's very tough to
[30:12] negotiate with. They're impossible.
[30:14] What negotiate possible. So it's pay 60.
[30:16] Can we all agree that Ozzie men purely on skill wise is worth
[30:19] 65,000,000 eyes closed? You just pay it.
[30:21] Yeah. So why did no one do it?
[30:23] There has to be something that we don't know.
[30:25] Because maybe it wasn't 65. It was 65.
[30:27] It was public information 65,000,000.
[30:29] So you're telling me Napoli would take a loss of like 40 mil
[30:32] on a guy who? Was wasn't a loss of 40 mil.
[30:35] Spent 100 mil. If you're 90.
[30:37] Way more 100 mil. They spent 80.
[30:39] On it maybe it was he made for 100 mil but they yeah sold young
[30:42] youth buyers to Lil for a 20 mil or 30.
[30:44] Mil But the the yeah, I think it was asset that they bought I.
[30:47] Think it was 78. 100 mil I don't remember.
[30:49] Search it up, it's 100 mil. It could even be higher than
[30:51] that. OK, after the mellow they they
[30:53] spent. 80 we're we're going before fucking debating.
[30:57] Like technicalities, every number we have received false.
[30:59] Yeah, the asset that they bought was 100 mil.
[31:02] Now de la Dente says. You're gonna lose 40 mil on
[31:03] that? Probably not.
[31:04] He's gonna fight for 100. Mil he's available for 65.
[31:07] It's it's this is public. If I can't I'm not debating he
[31:11] it's public information from it's from everyone's tweeted
[31:13] this. It's not just me.
[31:15] So why is it that no major club, why is it that Chelsea tried to
[31:19] do it on deadline day and weren't able?
[31:21] To wages, Wages. So how much is he asking for?
[31:24] No, Chelsea just don't want to give high wages like if.
[31:26] He has Man United, we should just be giving high wages like
[31:28] no but. He will ask for 12,000,013
[31:31] million minimum. That's I'd say, even more.
[31:35] Minimum. No, that's minimum.
[31:36] What's? His Napoli contract.
[31:37] Suppose he wants minimum whatever he's making on Napoli.
[31:39] He's making, I don't know. 1110 no. 1011 No.
[31:43] Something like that, 'cause I know he's not the highest.
[31:44] Blovich is, I think at 13 and he's the highest.
[31:46] Pitch I. Don't know.
[31:48] I, I don't think I, I personally think I'm done getting these big
[31:54] name players who just sign on just to get a paycheck and then
[31:58] they're just done. K then you need a pick.
[32:00] You're either going for the unproven or the proven because
[32:03] Osimin is proven. I looked up.
[32:05] But where does he fit? He's an unproven then.
[32:08] He is unproven, no, Well he's proven in the Prem.
[32:11] For two seasons. If that's enough for.
[32:13] Him playing the exact same formation as he's going to be
[32:15] playing at Manchester United, I mean, go very translatable.
[32:19] Joker, this would be a. Proven in the Portuguese league
[32:21] is not the same thing yeah it's not it's not failed that other
[32:24] team you know how many times I've bought players from fucking
[32:26] shitty ass leagues and they fail It's not I'm not I don't care
[32:30] I'm but. Which ones are you talking about
[32:32] that failed? They leave because they're
[32:33] leaving the best league and going back to their shitty
[32:35] actually which strikers have. Failed who?
[32:38] Not the strikers. Wingers and we're.
[32:40] Talking about strikers, strikers is a different position.
[32:42] All you have to do is finish. But you can still have a flop
[32:45] that's not. All you need to do is finish and
[32:47] you end up like Vlavich. No, it's not true.
[32:49] A lot of Vlavich. There's nothing.
[32:50] Was one of the best. Finisher, but that's all he has.
[32:53] Not the season. Not really, but.
[32:54] Yeah, yeah. And sometimes you all you need
[32:56] is someone to finish Hoyland. If he finishes a couple of
[32:58] chances, he'd have 10 goals by now.
[33:00] Right now, if we add someone that just could finish, we'd be
[33:03] a lot better than we are right now.
[33:04] But the bar is not can you finish?
[33:06] Yes. OK, you're good enough for
[33:08] matches. Well what do you want?
[33:08] The link up striker that could finish that could also run at
[33:12] them and could defend. Like bro, you're asking for
[33:15] Holland. There's 510 strikers in the
[33:18] world that are able to do that. Yes, Manchester United should be
[33:20] one of the clubs that have a person that can do that.
[33:23] I don't know. And you're going for.
[33:23] So then you're going. For or at least two of the two
[33:26] of the three requirements. I mean.
[33:28] I don't think you could like what do you what?
[33:30] Do you mean I don't think you? Could, I think there's a lack of
[33:32] strikers at the moment that offer you that.
[33:34] OK. And if there is, you're paying
[33:36] Andre MO. But if you trust if he's trust
[33:38] Amirani. Kulumwani is like 65 mil bro.
[33:42] I. Trusted 10 hog also.
[33:44] Yeah. But if let's say, let's say the
[33:45] trust that you gave 10 hog, you give it to Amrim, who would you
[33:48] think he would sign? Gilkoresh.
[33:50] That would be his number one option.
[33:51] What I'm saying is that if all the scouting department says
[33:54] Gilkoresh is a very good sign, I would buy him also.
[33:57] OK I would agree go ahead, but for me personally after my past
[34:05] experience, I have trauma. I am not comfortable spending
[34:09] another 65 to 75,000,000 on a striker that played in the
[34:12] Portuguese league and not in the lead that actually.
[34:14] I agree with that matters. I agree with that.
[34:17] You're if you're, you're seeing it, you're learning.
[34:20] Familiar but you're learning bro.
[34:21] Sign players that played well in the Prem.
[34:24] You know the level is there. Why?
[34:25] Why fucking dabble in all this? They might be 5-10 mil cheaper
[34:31] in Portugal, but there's risk involved going cheaper.
[34:35] I'm solely agreeing with you on the Matata one.
[34:37] If you're in a, if you're in a, if you're, I'm not saying that
[34:41] that's the goal. The goal isn't the.
[34:43] Goal is to get back to a top four team right now.
[34:45] Yeah, and like bro, Milan uses Giroux as a as a stepping stone
[34:49] to like. Well, what their plan was, was
[34:51] to wait and Giroux as a stopgap until they found.
[34:54] Their big striker, their. Big striker and maybe this big
[34:56] striker signing didn't come at the time, but Giroux was the
[34:58] perfect stop gap because he scored goals, he finished, he
[35:00] had to do was reliable with low wages and the was it cheap?
[35:04] Mateta, you are not gonna. Be coming in making 300.
[35:07] K, He won't be making that 'cause like I just when I looked
[35:10] at the OC Man, apparently like the first thing that I looked up
[35:12] OC Man wages, I saw a report from three days ago that OC Man
[35:15] wants 20 mil. Yeah, so whatever.
[35:17] But to go back like, that's the Mateta.
[35:18] Comes in for let's say 4050 mil with cheap wages and you get a
[35:22] guy that will score goals. That striker should be scoring
[35:25] in the Premier League and it gives you time to wait and wait
[35:29] for that. And he has, he has, he has 12
[35:31] months left on his contract. So Crystal Palace are either
[35:33] going to cash in or let him run down his contract.
[35:37] I guess they're well. They're Crystal Palace is also
[35:39] cooked if they sell them because that's all they say and Mateta
[35:42] and now you're left with Eze and a bag of is Miley Cyrus or
[35:45] whatever. You smiley Cyrus at the good
[35:46] season. Oh, listen, that, that, that's
[35:48] a, that's a summer, summer thing that we're gonna have to worry
[35:51] about. I'm sure we're gonna have a lot
[35:51] to talk about in the summer. It's only Manchester United.
[35:54] But looking at Amarim's four months so far as Manchester
[35:58] United coach Varva, as a Manchester United fan, how would
[36:01] you grade his season so far? Are we comparing this to 10 hog?
[36:06] I'm comparing it to 10 hog. So then I would say AB plus or
[36:09] ABI would say. B plus and you're 15th.
[36:13] And you're comparing. Like I said before, the team
[36:16] level is 12th or 13th and we're. So you just admitted.
[36:21] Only undefeated team in Europe, by the way, this season.
[36:23] Only undefeated. Most fraudulent undefeated team
[36:27] ever. But I think he has made the the
[36:31] 10 Haaga the worst defense I've ever seen in my life.
[36:34] We were leaking in goals like like candy.
[36:36] It was. It was actually horrendous to
[36:39] watch. I couldn't watch a single minute
[36:41] of those Man United games. Nowadays there's actual
[36:44] attacking intent and we don't allow thirty chances a game.
[36:47] So I would say it's been better. Ruben Amrim, 10 Hog was working
[36:53] with guys like Johnny Evans for multiple games last season, so I
[36:57] understand why the defense was leaky.
[37:00] Amrim got a team that was in 12th place, got a January
[37:04] transfer window and now is sitting in 14th, 15th.
[37:07] This should not be. A January transfer, although he
[37:09] signed one player, Patrick Dorg, who was meant to be a
[37:12] developmental player. It was more than what 10 Hog had
[37:14] at the beginning of the season. No it's not.
[37:17] What's 10 hog got? Well first of all 10 hog
[37:20] requested delict signing. He had him the whole first two.
[37:23] We still shipped in goals like they were Amazon shipping for
[37:26] one day Prime shipping. Regardless, saying it's positive
[37:29] when your team results wise has downgraded it is crazy.
[37:33] IC plus is crazy. I see our team being able to
[37:37] build on this for next year. What we're playing this year I
[37:41] see is a lot more translatable next year into success then 10.
[37:45] Hog was going nowhere. I see AI see a road map now.
[37:49] A road map relies on like your you're, it's hopes.
[37:53] It's hopes that the players will make the system work.
[37:56] But I think right now like Hoy. System is good.
[37:59] Hoyland per se, like if he's a good manager, I don't know why
[38:01] he's making Hoyland go pick up the balls in the corners and and
[38:04] like Hoyland should just be a finisher because he's not good
[38:06] at technical dribbling. OK, that's a choice that Amrim
[38:10] was making. But then you you actually look
[38:12] into this press conferences and he says I don't want Hoyland
[38:15] going there. OK, so Hoyland is just an idiot,
[38:18] but. Yeah, but then but then as a
[38:20] manager, the fact that you can't translate that to your own
[38:23] striker and he's doing. Bro, Hoyland is starting for two
[38:26] more weeks and then she'd OB Martin starting.
[38:28] I don't think you guys understand Hoyland.
[38:31] I said Hoyley needs to be arrested bro.
[38:33] He needs to go to jail. Something needs to he, he stole
[38:36] 70 million from us. We need to press charges against
[38:39] them. Someone, someone send that man
[38:41] to jail for what he did to us. But I think when Amaran came in,
[38:44] there was so much optimism and then it was just completely
[38:47] wiped away by initial poor performances.
[38:50] But then yeah, Amarin would even come out and say, yeah, this
[38:53] team isn't good enough. It's not at that level.
[38:56] He. That's an excuse, unfortunately,
[38:58] but it's not an excuse. It's an excuse.
[39:00] The team is not good. Yeah, but as a manager like
[39:03] Amarin must have known what he was getting into when he came to
[39:06] Manchester United. This.
[39:07] Isn't the. Seven month thing.
[39:09] He's not. He didn't plan to take
[39:10] Manchester United now and win the Premier League by the end of
[39:12] the season. Yeah, but at least at least calm
[39:14] the waters a little bit like I. Did calm the waters.
[39:17] He did. You realize when Amarin came in,
[39:20] you had hope. You still had hope.
[39:21] It was little, but you still had hope.
[39:23] He's killed all the remaining hope you had.
[39:25] I am the most delusional Manchester United fan.
[39:28] Me having hope does not rely on fucking.
[39:31] They could have appointed fucking Sean Daish.
[39:33] I would have somehow found a way to say Oh my God Sean Daish
[39:37] finished 10th with Burnley. We're going to finish top 4 now.
[39:39] I'm saying like you you. I'm stupid.
[39:41] I'm a fucking stupid individual. You have to understand me, OK?
[39:44] Every like I will, I will. Probably go into next year
[39:48] putting Man United in the top three again.
[39:50] I can't control my hope. I'm my migrating as a non
[39:56] Manchester as a Manchester United hater I'm gonna say CC
[40:01] flat not C plus not C minus I'll.
[40:03] Give it a C. Understandable.
[40:05] I'll give it a C. Because I do see like versus
[40:07] Arsenal bro 10 hog would not have looked like there was a
[40:09] shape. We would have allowed. 2-3
[40:11] goals. You guys look not, not with, not
[40:14] with Marino up top. You guys look like you have a
[40:16] shape now, like, like you. You guys are playing a sort of
[40:19] football. Look like a team.
[40:20] It's not just 10 hug 11 guys out there let's.
[40:23] Win the game. It doesn't help that Erickson
[40:24] and Casimir are still starting. And he's saying the right things
[40:27] in the press conference, too. He's saying he is.
[40:29] He's saying wrong things. What?
[40:31] What has he said wrong? Like you're watching him
[40:33] sometimes and you, you, you think like he shits in the team.
[40:37] He just blatantly it's not Portugal, this is Manchester.
[40:39] United like like I get I get that he's like waiting for the
[40:41] summer to revolutionize the squad like he's he's planning
[40:44] for the next year. But at the end, these are still
[40:46] your players. These are still the players that
[40:48] will be putting on a Manchester United shirt on the weekend and
[40:51] you're and you're publicly going out and saying, yeah, you're not
[40:53] at that level. This is the.
[40:54] Elite level of the sport OK like this is the elite of the elite.
[40:58] All 20 managers who are managing in the Premier League are the
[41:02] the Creme de la creme OK of managers.
[41:05] Except made me rude man in this story.
[41:07] All 19 other ones. If you go into a chess match,
[41:10] okay, your two chess grand masters, Magnus Carlsen is the
[41:12] best chess player in the world. If you give them chess pieces
[41:16] that aren't able to fully do what other chess masters chess
[41:19] pieces are able to do, Grant Magnus Carlsen is going to lose
[41:22] most of the time even though he's the best chess player.
[41:26] You can only play with the pieces that you have given to
[41:28] you. But what if the player that sat
[41:30] in his seat prior to Magnus Carlsen playing with those
[41:32] shitty also got sacked because he was doing a shit job?
[41:34] What if that guy was doing better?
[41:36] What if the guy before him also got sacked because he was doing
[41:38] a shit job and the guy before him also got?
[41:40] Obviously at some point it's not the fucking grandmaster sitting
[41:43] in the seat, it's the people putting the pieces on the table.
[41:47] You tell him, bro. You tell him I missed.
[41:50] My name is Carlson. Shout out.
[41:53] You listen to Joe Rogan podcast. Yes, but even just he's a goat.
[41:56] Here's a goat I. Don't know this guy will walk
[41:58] in, destroy the next messy of chess and then just go about his
[42:03] day. Go to the beach.
[42:05] Yeah, the vibe, but I mean it. As long as you back your
[42:08] manager. That was a we're we're still on.
[42:11] Yeah, that's crazy. We're we must be 3030 minutes in
[42:14] a minimum. That's crazy.
[42:15] And we're still on the United Arsenal.
[42:16] Yeah, let let's head over to the next Manchester team because the
[42:19] city ends up losing to Forest 1. Nothing.
[42:21] And this was a monster blow to Man City's top 3 push.
[42:25] But. 3 Push brother worry about top four top.
[42:28] Four yeah, because any The Forest 1 Nothing.
[42:33] Terrible result for Pep. Pep and Co.
[42:36] Listen, if they don't make if they don't make top four, do
[42:41] major changes come or you just keep trusting even?
[42:43] If they even if they somehow squeak into 4th, The thing is,
[42:47] is that premier examining an extra CL spot, so 5th even make
[42:50] CL so that we have to also keep that into consideration.
[42:53] So chances are they will make CL.
[42:55] But if they, this is mattress the city we're talking about.
[42:58] They have competent owners. It's not Mattress United then
[43:00] finishing fifth. They're going to spend 2300 mil
[43:03] this. Summer, OK.
[43:03] So you're saying that it's not a replacement thing, it's just
[43:05] keep spending? They need to spend, there's no
[43:08] money. Garbage right now.
[43:09] Bro the team is garbage right now.
[43:11] But every year they spend. Every year they spend.
[43:13] No, they don't. That's a lie.
[43:15] Don't they have a lot of players under contract that are running
[43:17] out? KDB I don't know, BBB is.
[43:20] Gone. Yeah, but KDB honestly nowadays.
[43:23] He's kind of the fall off of. KDB is definitely.
[43:25] Gone. I saw charts recently of players
[43:29] like expected assists per 90 compared to their teammates and
[43:34] first was Bruno's, second was KDB.
[43:36] So he's still doing it. Wasn't.
[43:37] Playing. Doesn't KDB still have more GA
[43:40] than Vinicius in 2025? I don't know, I saw.
[43:42] Possible. I don't know.
[43:43] Oh. My God, what?
[43:44] That's the that's the stat that was floating around, especially
[43:46] in our discord. If you guys are in discord,
[43:48] there was someone in discord saying don't let the real no the
[43:51] Real Madrid fan find out about about this the whole league in
[43:55] 2025. But KDB obviously still a good
[43:58] player, but it's more the players like like you can't go
[44:01] into next year. Well, you're gonna have Rodri.
[44:03] But COVID should be gone, especially now that Nico
[44:06] Gonzalez got signed also. Not looking at COVID, just a
[44:08] problem. But those are the problems.
[44:11] No, no, but. It's Kovacic.
[44:12] Kovacic. Has been the best midfielder out
[44:14] of Doku. Is not at the level required to
[44:16] be. Yeah, you can say.
[44:17] That Premier League winning players, we said this, he's
[44:19] always supposed to. He should have been a depth
[44:22] player when Roger was playing. Kovacic was never brought into.
[44:25] Severe core, yeah. OK, so now that your entire game
[44:28] plan relies on Rodri getting it not injured the entire year is
[44:32] basically what you're admitting? But it doesn't.
[44:34] But let's say Bruno Fernandez gets injured.
[44:35] Who replaces him? Like.
[44:36] But now now Nikola Gonzalez got signed for 60 million in January
[44:39] to be Rodgers backup slash like play rotation.
[44:42] Where did this Kovach go? So it's a, use it.
[44:44] Should be the bench. So but it's a useless player
[44:47] then? Yeah, but he's.
[44:47] Not a player, he's. Never gonna play.
[44:49] He's never gonna play. There's.
[44:50] Two options in front. So much football that Manchester
[44:52] City should be playing. Kovachic will play in an FA Cup
[44:54] versus Huddersfield. OK, now you send Kovachic to
[44:58] fucking ask a man, OK? The bench, OK.
[45:01] Gundagen's not good enough for Manchester.
[45:03] City, but Gundagen's on the way out.
[45:05] He's on the way out. You just.
[45:06] Brought it in. I think he just kind.
[45:07] Of wow, it's a bad deal. I think he's on.
[45:09] For a one year extension if I'm not missing?
[45:11] It's not gonna get. Jeremy Doku, Jeremy Doku or
[45:14] grill. Even one of those brothers gotta
[45:16] go. Even Doku is on his way out to
[45:17] be honest. Well the links, the links to
[45:19] Spanish teams. Like we did not see a single I
[45:22] have but apparently if Varva doesn't see it, that never
[45:24] happens. But so go on.
[45:26] Did you see? I would not imagine Barcelona
[45:29] links, but Doku is No Doku is a player to leave for 50 mil.
[45:35] Not to Barcelona, but to somewhere else. 50 mil on doku.
[45:37] Someone who wants. City will not sell Doku for 50
[45:40] mil. Why?
[45:40] OK this is not even meant to be a rage bait.
[45:42] The only place I kind of see is like a UV50 mil on doku I.
[45:46] Wouldn't mind. I wouldn't mind though.
[45:47] It's. Not a rage.
[45:48] Bait. OK, what are you trying?
[45:49] To say no other team really makes sense.
[45:52] Maybe like a Newcastle? So what?
[45:54] You keep Doku forever? That's the plan.
[45:56] It's just for what they would actually sell them for.
[45:59] I don't think anyone will buy them.
[46:01] Then you have two mediocre options on the left wing Relish,
[46:04] who's absolutely useless. You have Doku who's not doing
[46:07] anything, really. Not as effective.
[46:09] It's it's a very big problem in squad building.
[46:11] Bro like they can't, they can't justify selling like guys like
[46:15] relish for 30 mil. Yeah, honestly, I think they
[46:17] can. I think they've they've they
[46:19] definitely much money to just like it's not like if they they
[46:22] sell Grealish and it's like they're gonna feel that way
[46:25] dollar loss. This conversation might switch
[46:27] couple weeks. I think the, the, the ruling on
[46:29] the on the, on the charges is coming in a couple of months, I
[46:33] said. It's every.
[46:34] It's every week. It's coming.
[46:35] No, no, I think there's a date set.
[46:37] I think it's like a specific date that's.
[46:39] I think went to try it like something something made it
[46:42] longer. They extended it or something, I
[46:44] don't know, but I I wouldn't keep your hopes up for that.
[46:47] I really, I don't think they're going to get relegated.
[46:49] Well, I don't think they're going to be relegated.
[46:50] By rule, the Premier League can't actually relegate them by
[46:54] rule. So they just do a monster point
[46:56] deduction because. That they stay lost because it's
[46:58] not the EFL that's charging them, it's the Premier League.
[47:01] So you you theoretically can't kick them out of the league.
[47:06] But you can't deduct Premier League points.
[47:08] You can deduct 100 points let's say and just force them to get
[47:12] relegated but they can't like pull AUV where it's just you get
[47:16] relegated. EFL in the Premier League.
[47:21] EFL is the governing body of English football.
[47:24] Like they can't just like this. They can't just choose like
[47:28] they're they're the ones like EFL can't just say OK and see
[47:31] he's relegated. Yeah, but the EFL is not the one
[47:34] who charged Man City. The Premier League.
[47:36] Premier League, I guess. I'm sure there's Congress.
[47:38] Like if they deserve to get relegated, they'll find a way
[47:40] to. Make it yes, yes.
[47:41] Point deduction. It would be Premier League
[47:43] deducting them 100 points, but then at the end of the season
[47:45] you're going to see Man City finish 20th.
[47:47] You're not going to see Man City.
[47:48] I'm. Just interested to I'm
[47:49] interested to see if if they get guilty on charges.
[47:53] I I think that Man City like is a very high chance they come out
[47:56] of this with like just a massive, massive fine.
[47:59] And if that happens, it'll just show the blatant corruption
[48:01] because if you the higher the number, if the fine is low, then
[48:04] it's like, OK, you broke like a minor rule, whatever.
[48:06] Like it's a, it's a loophole you found, but we're still going to
[48:08] find you. But if this if we're looking at
[48:10] like a a $20 million, maybe even more $50 million fine, you're
[48:14] the the Premier League is basically admitting they paid us
[48:16] out the. Issue is that it's so blatantly
[48:19] obvious to the cheating like it was.
[48:21] It's just so right in your face, the.
[48:24] Keyboard warriors were able to yes to deduce what was happening
[48:29] in like. If they don't get a massive or
[48:31] they're not loopholes. It's not loopholes.
[48:34] Man City, the owners of Man City would say Etsy had can you
[48:39] please sponsor the kit? We're looking for 8 million.
[48:42] They'll answer, we'll give you 3.
[48:44] So then the the country, the country would say, OK, pay us 3.
[48:49] We'll cover 5. So then it's 8.
[48:51] So on the sheet it says 88 but 5 of it's covered by the owner.
[48:55] Okay, now maybe that's a loophole.
[48:56] It's not a loophole. That's.
[48:58] Cheating the laws. You don't know the laws.
[49:00] The Premier League says it's cheating.
[49:02] But that's what trying to figure out in court.
[49:05] Stupid, but whatever. But anyways, their chances of
[49:08] making top four definitely dented by this.
[49:10] And Nottingham Forest staying, like staying in that third
[49:13] position, that's just crazier. This is.
[49:15] That's the biggest surprise. Monsters.
[49:16] Not even City losing. I find Forest being in Champions
[49:19] League is one of the biggest surprises this season.
[49:20] You go through cities Forest starting 11:00, they have a lot
[49:24] of quality. Pretty good.
[49:25] Yep, and go back even. Even players like that right now
[49:29] are not getting the spotlight as old the best swingers in the
[49:32] Premier like Callum Hudson, Adoy, that brother was what he
[49:35] was coming out of Chelsea Academy.
[49:36] Oh, I remember those Cho, those Cho tweets.
[49:38] Bellini, I'm pretty sure Byron Byron Byron tried buying this
[49:43] brother for 60 mil 70 mil when he was 18.
[49:46] Sounds like misinformation. No, no, it's 70 mil.
[49:49] That's for Cho. I'll find the exact number.
[49:52] It's just must be like 50 bro. Max it's just one of those
[49:54] examples of like an extremely well balanced team.
[49:57] Yes, do very well consistently over.
[49:59] Time pieces put together. Hudson Adoy and Anthony Langa
[50:03] shouldn't be a They're gonna be leading, you know they're not,
[50:05] you know, Chris Wood, Yes. Yeah.
[50:08] Chris Wood and Hudson Adoy. £70 million Chelsea rejected by.
[50:13] Fire source the. Guardian God.
[50:15] The Guardian. Yeah.
[50:16] Is that even good? Yes.
[50:18] That's that's like the sun. Jacob Steinberg Jacob
[50:20] Steinberg's a reliable Chelsea. He's my God, bro, he's my God.
[50:23] Yeah, freaking Steinberg. Bro but this is this is public
[50:26] information that Bayern bids 70 million on deadline day for him.
[50:30] He got rejected. But yeah, but Nottingham Forest,
[50:33] the squad building was like right now you're seeing the
[50:36] fruits of that labor from 2/3. Years ago, I had two respects.
[50:39] Yeah, Nuno Espirito Santo doing wonders, but.
[50:42] The remote of his, yeah, of his career.
[50:44] Somebody got to make a YouTube video about that.
[50:45] I would click on that. Sports.
[50:46] Yeah, but but honestly, Nottingham Forest in the
[50:49] Champions League. Listen, that's football
[50:51] heritage, right? There, but it's going to, I
[50:53] think it's going to, it's like a Newcastle situation where they
[50:55] they, they they have that good season, they jump to the
[50:57] Champions League. It's too much football.
[50:59] They're not used to it, and then they end up doing.
[51:01] The thing about Nottingham Forest is that from 2-3 years
[51:05] ago the squad investment was so heavy that you have players like
[51:10] Sangare who was playing at CL level football with PSV being
[51:13] like one of their best players on the bench.
[51:16] So that when you do move up to CL, you have obviously players
[51:18] on the bench that can play that CL level.
[51:21] But even their way of playing is very it doesn't tire you out as
[51:25] much as a man to man system. Like you could play that
[51:28] consistently. 3 * a Week 2 * a week.
[51:30] Let's say like you're just sitting.
[51:33] In a block, an adjustment like I don't think for sure.
[51:35] Not even forest here. I don't think Forest will make
[51:37] top 6. I agree.
[51:39] I need to see their summer, obviously.
[51:41] Who they? Yeah, really the.
[51:42] But but right now if they went into the same same next season
[51:45] with the same squad, I don't think tops course I.
[51:48] Agree anyway. So yeah, talk.
[51:51] That's the Premier League now we're moving on.
[51:53] I'm not introducing this one. Well, it's not.
[51:55] I will. Start.
[51:56] It's Vava. Vava is licking his lips with
[51:58] this. So Juventus got absolutely
[52:01] demolished by Atlanta 4 nil a week after being in a title
[52:05] race. So can we confirm that the title
[52:07] race is done now? I never started a race.
[52:10] That's that's misinformation. No, that's a misinformation.
[52:13] I hear about it, I. Don't think that was a joke.
[52:15] You guys can't. I don't think that joke I.
[52:18] Think you guys can differentiate a joke?
[52:20] If you guys can differentiate a joke that I said Man United is
[52:22] going to finish in the top three this year that wasn't.
[52:25] I don't think that was a joke. Bro no but like.
[52:27] You see, you can't. You guys can't joke, You can't
[52:30] differentiate a joke, bro. You see?
[52:32] That's the that. Was not a joke bro.
[52:34] I said there was a possibility, yeah, title, race and there's a
[52:37] possibility of winning. The league is different, very.
[52:39] So where's the possibility now? Zero.
[52:42] It's three points less than it was at the beginning of the
[52:44] week. I don't know, this one was a
[52:46] rough rough game to watch if you're AUA fan.
[52:49] If you any UA fans, listen to the pod and my condolences bro.
[52:52] This was one of your worst losses of all time.
[52:54] OK, it wasn't. Yeah, it was at home.
[52:56] This was one of your. Worst losses Telling me it was
[52:59] your worst loss. Since 1967.
[53:02] No, no, since you lost, you lost 51. 40 They've never.
[53:05] Lost Never lost at home in this stadium 4. 100 not on target.
[53:08] Stats bro without. Shot on.
[53:10] Targeting BSV was way worse than losing 40 Atlanta.
[53:14] As an individual game, it's not but.
[53:16] I don't care about the stats 1940s.
[53:18] I think the DMV was worse because it was a knockout game
[53:22] in the Champions League context, but.
[53:24] Yeah, but this year? As an individual game, this
[53:27] performance was way worse than that PSV performance.
[53:29] I don't think. So more mistakes.
[53:30] Bro you guys didn't have a shot on target at home?
[53:32] Bro, we played versus Atlanta, we didn't play versus.
[53:35] PSV Atlanta is not some fucking super team.
[53:37] Atlanta. Atlanta is a Bruce, Yeah.
[53:40] Atlanta is a very good team. They're they're a good team.
[53:42] They're a good team bro. They.
[53:43] Have the possibility that if you have a bad day, they're gonna
[53:45] capitalize and score four goals. And they they've done it before.
[53:47] PSV that's gonna slip through and win the the the like the
[53:50] tie. They, they, I think they have
[53:52] more goal, they have a better goal differential than enter
[53:53] this season, right? They have the best goal
[53:55] differential and set it off. Because some games they just
[53:57] score 3/4. Goals they they score 6
[53:58] sometimes. Yeah, so usually that's against
[54:01] a hell as the right. Yeah, that's the problem.
[54:02] The UVA just was not their day like Mata.
[54:05] Like I really don't understand what was happening.
[54:07] That midfield was just an an absolute disaster.
[54:10] For me I think though if you're watching it as a Juventus fan,
[54:13] the defense bro not having. You down.
[54:15] Not having Bremer Cabal injured, guys like Savannah injured where
[54:18] you end up having to play a guy like Lloyd Kelly at center back.
[54:21] Lloyd Kelly was not brought in to be a starting center back.
[54:23] He was brought in to be a full back that sat on the bench and
[54:26] got rotated in, and now he somehow made his way into
[54:28] starting at center. Back then, the issue with you
[54:30] bringing that K, you brought in Lloyd Kelly, but then Alberto
[54:33] Kosta literally does what you just said, so why bring in?
[54:36] The Coles a full back. Yeah, exactly.
[54:38] That can fill in that center back.
[54:39] Back, sometimes it was just you choose Lloyd Kelly or and you
[54:44] also have Kahulu who can play at Kahulu was injured bro back.
[54:47] We had a shit ton of Kahulu played.
[54:48] Kahulu played. That was his first time back
[54:50] since injury. So you had three full backs and
[54:52] he got subbed in, but then he started, he gets subbed in.
[54:55] He subbed in. He subbed in no Gotti and subbed
[54:57] out for Got subbed in Gotti. Yeah, got a terrible game.
[55:00] Oh. My God, but bro, like that's why
[55:03] I'm not I'm not like absolutely devastated.
[55:06] The odds of us going into this game of winning the if we would
[55:09] have beat Atlanta, it would have been a comfortable like, OK, we
[55:12] should make top 4. The the the the Scudeto race of
[55:16] us being in it was always from day one reliant on the top guys
[55:19] dropping points like you can only win the games in front.
[55:22] Of you are you mutta out if you finished outside of top 4?
[55:25] No what? No.
[55:27] Bro what I believe I agree. I'm not.
[55:29] I'm not Milan that. I'm not.
[55:31] I'm not that a championsing, not that a cup Italian.
[55:33] I'm not a Super Cup and not even talking.
[55:35] I see my point. I'm sorry bro.
[55:37] Well, sorry. Hey, I'm not Milan that you get
[55:39] a you, you get a Fonseca, that's it.
[55:41] And then there's no project to begin with because it's always
[55:44] been the management project and not the manager.
[55:46] Project. Let him speak.
[55:47] No. I never get.
[55:47] To speak you guys. Good, good.
[55:49] Yeah. Are we talking about AC Milan?
[55:50] You guys have management purchases, not manager
[55:53] purchases. We invested in a a Mota project
[55:56] and we brought in players that Mota wanted.
[55:58] The stupidest thing that the club can do is sack Mota after
[56:02] one season and just completely erase the idea that a second
[56:06] season could be good. Bro Allegri in his first season
[56:10] wasn't was not in his first season as a second tenure was
[56:13] not that good then his other season.
[56:15] But did he get backed? I don't.
[56:17] Remember, I legally got backed. I I legally got backed seriously
[56:20] backed. And what purchases?
[56:21] Juventus was in a worse financial Volovich.
[56:24] There's more, there's all kinds. We were in a worse financial
[56:27] state when Allegri it was a second and third year bro keeps
[56:30] getting rid of Malta. The thing is, is you have to be
[56:33] a Juventus fan to understand what I'm saying because you have
[56:35] to have watched how shit Allegri was watching.
[56:39] Like just watching. Because Allegri was down here
[56:41] and you're here doesn't. It's and it's.
[56:43] Good football, but but it's very good.
[56:45] My my my issue with Juventus is not Thiago Mota, my issue is
[56:50] Gentoli because I think this summer looking back now is a
[56:55] disaster. Personally from my POV, it's a
[56:58] disaster summer for you Vic. You're just going to say the
[57:00] same fucking shit as always, Hoisen, bro, you guys sold
[57:02] Hoisen, you sold Baton Rouge. He's good at.
[57:05] If you guys bought, if you guys bought pillar players that right
[57:09] now look, Oh my God, they're bought.
[57:11] How do you know what a player that you guys bought, The only
[57:13] player that you guys bought this summer that looks like he could
[57:16] be a starter when you guys actually become Scudetto
[57:19] contenders? It's Teram.
[57:20] It's Teram. Also bro don't forget Juntali
[57:22] Gregorio Juntali came to Napoli and in one year made them a
[57:25] title contender. And then won Cavada.
[57:27] He was the guy bringing in Cavada.
[57:29] I know him. So to be honest I'm blaming Mata
[57:32] more than Juntali. Juntali had his fair share of
[57:34] just disaster classes, but I'm not seeing anything inspiring
[57:37] here. Like knocked out in every
[57:39] competition. You're not.
[57:41] It's not a project role. Why can you be?
[57:43] You can only see 2 feet in Because for me, yes, right now
[57:46] yes. Because you need a source with
[57:47] different managers, but you need and they all.
[57:50] They both failed and. That's the fucking problem.
[57:53] And look at that, we're in the same.
[57:54] Location. I don't think you sacked Thiago
[57:56] Mota today to say no, not. Today, you're not doing that.
[57:59] Today if. We did the Milan approach and
[58:00] sacked Mota mid season and go get some other fucking bum from
[58:03] I don't even know where we're going to be in the same spot as
[58:06] me. Well, I think, I think either
[58:07] way, if you don't make Champions League, then what's the
[58:11] alternative? Because if you fire.
[58:13] Sacked the manager. Bro I know, I know you sacked
[58:15] the manager if you. What?
[58:16] What am I hearing you? I'm sorry.
[58:17] Like, no, no, I'm like that. Biased.
[58:19] I want to. I would honestly after a
[58:21] performance like this. I've seen coaches being getting
[58:24] sacked after games like this. No, you.
[58:25] Look like OK, wait, that's how you ruin your that's how you.
[58:27] Ruin are you saying? Are you saying sack him right
[58:29] now 'cause that's stupid? I'm not saying that.
[58:31] I'm not I'm not saying sack him right now, but he's he's had a
[58:34] lot of performances is where it's showing like it's a little
[58:36] rocky. I don't know if I'd give him a
[58:39] second season. It's it's a conversation that
[58:41] uve will need to. Have his team is not good.
[58:44] But he you guys. Are all just saying.
[58:46] Rocky, I don't think I'm not a. Different one.
[58:49] If Uventis doesn't make the Champions League, no manager is
[58:52] going to want to touch something where Uve is going to be in
[58:55] complete turmoil for a summer where there's going to be a
[58:58] Europa League competition maybe. Millie, have a question?
[59:01] Yeah. As an Inter fan, yeah.
[59:03] Playing Juventus, yes. In the last three seasons, which
[59:05] season is the scariest? Playing Juventus or the one that
[59:08] you think that Juventus had the best chance?
[59:09] Three seasons ago. No, no in the last three
[59:12] seasons. Yeah.
[59:13] Not the third season ago was we were losing to you, but we were
[59:17] losing to you on their allegory. Remember the game that we went
[59:19] to go watch? We went to go watch here, you
[59:21] would watch and you would say Juventus have zero chance of
[59:24] beating Inter. Like.
[59:26] Can't forget 3:00 as long as you've been good.
[59:28] That's like Milan has the best chance of beating Inter.
[59:30] When are the scariest of Inter of of Milan?
[59:33] Shit, I guess right now. Yeah, and there's the worst
[59:35] fucking Milan you've ever watched, and you're like, that
[59:37] doesn't mean anything. When you've had Ronaldo, it was
[59:40] like around that time where I was really competitive time.
[59:42] Negative was shit football. This is good football.
[59:44] I can see it's to say it's I understand argue with Ameren
[59:48] like I'm watching it and I can see positive.
[59:51] Play, but the standards are in hell.
[59:53] Then you're Juventus, you're supposed to be contending.
[59:55] You have to build it there. You have to build a dynasty in
[59:57] one fucking season. You cannot build a dynasty but
[59:59] you. Spent.
[1:00:01] You sold 150 million worth of players and you bought how many?
[1:00:04] How many would you say this summer?
[1:00:06] Of money or players? That you bought.
[1:00:09] Players or money one? 150 mil okay money.
[1:00:11] Okay, so we went even. OK, so basically you sold your
[1:00:14] best prospects and you brought in players for your best
[1:00:17] prospects for this Tiago Mata project.
[1:00:18] Best for this Tiago Mata project.
[1:00:20] Dean Hoisen, Dean Hoisen. Dean Hoisen is balling out.
[1:00:23] He's worth less than when we bought we sold them.
[1:00:25] Just to replace him with like Nico Gonzalez and whatever.
[1:00:27] But yeah, what what Tiago Mata got?
[1:00:30] Back spending my point of gentoli shitting the bed but.
[1:00:34] Tiago Mata got backed these are players that tago mota 1 he
[1:00:38] wanted Copenheimer shit flop he wanted was anybody all these
[1:00:42] defenders that completely. Injured everyone else injured
[1:00:45] bro. Every fucking player we had got
[1:00:47] injured. Louise is injured for like 2
[1:00:48] weeks now at this point to three.
[1:00:50] Weeks OK, you have you did not you have you have no idea which
[1:00:52] time you're you're officially ineligible to talk about this
[1:00:55] about this season because bro Douglas Louise has not been
[1:00:57] available and healthy for the whole fucking.
[1:00:59] Season, he hasn't been that great, so everyone he played.
[1:01:01] He's barely played. He's barely, barely played.
[1:01:04] Look at me minutes if he's played over 600 but.
[1:01:06] It's because he's on the bench, that's why he's not playing.
[1:01:08] But I. Think I think.
[1:01:09] This guy got injured February 24th.
[1:01:11] That was literally 2-3 weeks ago my.
[1:01:13] My point, my point is that Tago Mota got his backing if he's out
[1:01:16] of Champions League as well, he's he's got knocked out of
[1:01:18] every competition, but what credit can you give him,
[1:01:21] honestly? The thing is.
[1:01:22] Exactly. So you suck him.
[1:01:23] But even that's. A fucking horrible way of
[1:01:25] thinking about football clubs. That's how you end up with five
[1:01:28] different managers in 29 years. It's not.
[1:01:30] Because I want a. Change because Milan, we have
[1:01:33] the shit forever. You have that mentality you're
[1:01:35] going to be shit forever. You're.
[1:01:36] Just I can't believe you guys gonna be you guys are fucking
[1:01:38] Juventus Blazers. It's ridiculous.
[1:01:40] Brother. You guys are such the biggest
[1:01:42] haters. Like insane blazing.
[1:01:44] One thing out of. Time Insanely, I'm sitting with
[1:01:46] the. Biggest haters of Juventus?
[1:01:48] Apologies, insane. Blazers there bro, but I
[1:01:51] honestly Mata it would be very tough for me to justify a second
[1:01:56] season just based off of like fan like.
[1:01:59] We're talking about he doesn't make Champions League, it
[1:02:01] doesn't make champions. League, but but then the problem
[1:02:04] is that you lose a lot of appeal for as a manager if you're not
[1:02:07] in champions. Yeah, so firm.
[1:02:08] So you won't you won't bring in a top if a top if.
[1:02:10] He makes Champions League. Listen, I could agree with you
[1:02:13] guys. OK, keep, listen, listen,
[1:02:15] listen, listen. Let's say Lacio finishes on 69
[1:02:18] points, OK? And they're, let's just say 69
[1:02:21] points or seven, let's say 72 points, OK.
[1:02:24] Is that tough? So if yes, well hypothetical
[1:02:27] they finished on 72 points. If you may get 73 points, you
[1:02:30] keep Mata, but if they get 71 points you sack Mata.
[1:02:33] It's, it's a big difference, yeah, because 1, you made
[1:02:36] Champions League for the next year and when you have no
[1:02:38] project going on because your revenues will be lower, so
[1:02:41] you're not spending as much, you're not backing them at all,
[1:02:43] you're gonna have to sell because we're Italian clubs and
[1:02:45] we cannot sustain. About the manager we can next
[1:02:47] manager. No, we're on.
[1:02:48] The situation 60 million. You guys are not in a better.
[1:02:51] Top four. If you missed top 4, the next
[1:02:54] manager is still not gonna be able to spend, so who cares that
[1:02:57] that's a sunken cost? Tiago Okay, when when someone
[1:03:02] like enter goes out to get in Zaggy, that's a proven manager.
[1:03:04] He's won something. That was that's just a three out
[1:03:07] winning side by the way, but go on.
[1:03:09] What? Are you talking about?
[1:03:09] They are just one city out inherited a.
[1:03:12] OK, so bad example. Then sold two of two of our
[1:03:14] best. Yeah, OK.
[1:03:15] But then you still had Lautaro, you still had Bastoni.
[1:03:18] We had. But Allah, they do not have a
[1:03:19] Bastoni, They don't have a but Allah, they don't have a lot of
[1:03:21] towers. And we were in.
[1:03:22] Champions. After spending.
[1:03:23] We just won the league and won Champions League.
[1:03:25] Like there was a we had a project and we brought in a
[1:03:28] coach that was playing a 352, same as Konte.
[1:03:30] So like. The team right now, Chakamoto
[1:03:32] doesn't have a good team. But he it.
[1:03:35] But it's not like it's. Not wrong and bro.
[1:03:38] He has not a he has not a top team.
[1:03:40] He should be performing better than he is with the team he has.
[1:03:43] His team is good enough to beat everybody in the league except
[1:03:46] for Enter and I'd say Atlanta. I don't know.
[1:03:50] About that Atlanta, bro, we just saw Atlanta.
[1:03:52] They had fucking breast. I'm not.
[1:03:54] Like you guys that I look at, I see one club Rouge fucking game
[1:03:57] and I'm like, oh, there there was a whole fucking season.
[1:03:59] No, I use. I think I thought it's a very
[1:04:00] strong team. Atlanta is a strong team.
[1:04:02] They're a difficult team to play against, Said.
[1:04:04] Yeah, unless you're intern. I think Monapoli starting 11 is
[1:04:06] better than yours. It's.
[1:04:07] Just not after the Kavata Scalia left.
[1:04:09] See why? Why don't you go for Conte?
[1:04:12] Like why did you go for Tego Mata who's not proven?
[1:04:14] Yeah, you wouldn't come back does why do you?
[1:04:15] See Milan, think the same way as you.
[1:04:17] I would have, I'm not saying I would have taken Conte back in
[1:04:19] the day, but seeing where Napoli is at, we should have upgraded
[1:04:22] way more than we did. Came wrong.
[1:04:24] So yeah, just cause Constance just a little bit better than
[1:04:27] Pyoli doesn't mean that we're back.
[1:04:28] He's a completely different bro. It's a different type of just a.
[1:04:30] Little bit better than Allegri. You're not back.
[1:04:32] You're still in doubt right now. He's a completely different
[1:04:34] manager. If if it's completely different,
[1:04:36] if you guys going into it like if they hired him and said, OK,
[1:04:40] we understand the risks of bringing in a younger manager
[1:04:43] with not as much experience. If we take the hit this season,
[1:04:47] we're still going to back him. Then you back him the you don't
[1:04:50] deviate. They will Gentoli, my opinion,
[1:04:51] Gentoli has always backed Malta always backed and and to this to
[1:04:55] this point up until right now, there has never been a question
[1:04:58] in management. Yes, Thiago, Malta next season,
[1:05:00] that's the contract. But but then let's say, let's
[1:05:02] say the management comes in and said, OK, well Thiago, Malta,
[1:05:04] you need to make top four, we backed you, you need to at least
[1:05:08] compete. We'll go make it to around a 16
[1:05:10] champion, do whatever and we neither Copa Thai or Super Copa
[1:05:13] and he did none of those. Management has every right to
[1:05:16] question whether or not he should be there and.
[1:05:18] That's what I'm saying. Yeah, and you replace him with
[1:05:19] what you do. You do what you will get
[1:05:21] Allegory, you will get, Conte, you will get.
[1:05:24] Backwards. You can move backwards.
[1:05:26] You move backwards like, yeah, in my opinion, Milan should not
[1:05:28] be going to get allegory this summer.
[1:05:29] Yeah, that's a different OK. But that's if a market
[1:05:31] opportunity presents itself, you start thinking about it.
[1:05:34] I like, I don't want an old fucking.
[1:05:36] Italian, but that's better in Deserbi.
[1:05:38] I do too, but you think about it.
[1:05:41] Dagamoto better than Deserbi? There's more potential in
[1:05:43] Dagamoto. Realize like you guys Deserbi
[1:05:45] has like 5 or 6 years of SETI experience with Sasolo that are
[1:05:48] in SETI B right now and he was making like Europa leagues with
[1:05:50] them and then end up going up Brighton Bologna then end up
[1:05:53] going up Brighton who actually brought them to literal
[1:05:55] relevancy and then. He brought them to literal
[1:05:58] relevancy when Graham Potter was in fourth place.
[1:06:00] But you can't deny that the Zerbi is a very good coach,
[1:06:03] Barber one of the best at the moment.
[1:06:07] I personally think he's overrated personally.
[1:06:10] Well, Thiago Moto, come here for one season of Bologna.
[1:06:12] Is is. I rather definitely I I am more
[1:06:15] scared of playing UVA now than I was last season.
[1:06:18] I agree. I am personally if I was playing
[1:06:23] them I would be more scared but. I would hope so because ideally
[1:06:28] with the investments change of code you are.
[1:06:30] Upgrade last summer and it was not a good summer for me
[1:06:34] personally. I don't think it was a good
[1:06:37] summer. But injuries, injuries just made
[1:06:41] like they tainted the season. They just like a guy like
[1:06:44] Bremer. But it doesn't, that doesn't
[1:06:45] matter because every single other manager who's had injury
[1:06:48] issues, you can't. A lot of a lot of clubs have
[1:06:51] injury, but we do. Man United did too.
[1:06:53] And you used it. I did, but looking back it's a
[1:06:56] stupid fucking excuse. You can't say that now that
[1:06:59] you're not in that state of saying that I can injuries.
[1:07:02] We still have injuries issues, by the way.
[1:07:03] But injuries matter. Like you can't, you can't.
[1:07:07] You can't like, theoreticize losing 3 of your 4 starting
[1:07:10] defenders. Like you can't.
[1:07:12] That's not a you. Can't plan for that.
[1:07:13] I lost six of my 7. Exactly, and that's the reason
[1:07:16] you were defending it. But it was still shit even with
[1:07:19] my players, yeah. Well, listen with you where they
[1:07:22] are right now. Do you see like where do you see
[1:07:24] them ending the season right now?
[1:07:27] Listen, if we I still think they finished fourth, we beat if we
[1:07:30] beat all the if we beat all the other like lower table teams
[1:07:33] that we have to play, I think we have one more big game if.
[1:07:35] You can say if. Yeah, I think we.
[1:07:37] Have we have Roma in two in two weeks?
[1:07:39] If we play, all the other teams are beatable, so we should get
[1:07:42] enough points out of all of them and then we just stay in our
[1:07:45] fourth spot and then we make Champions League and I think
[1:07:47] said I could, is it possible we get the 5th, 5th spot?
[1:07:50] It's. You have there's.
[1:07:51] Two fifth spots. Like we gotta have like 5 teams
[1:07:54] left in Europe and they're already ahead of you.
[1:07:55] You guys have two teams left in Europe.
[1:07:57] I know, but athletic core real is getting knocked out so
[1:07:59] that's. Roma lots.
[1:08:00] That's one guaranteed moving on. Also, Barcelona is moving on.
[1:08:04] It's not real. Betis is looking to be likely
[1:08:07] good in chat. Conference league, yeah, but I'm
[1:08:09] telling you it's done so. It's Las.
[1:08:10] It's. La Liga and and England that are
[1:08:13] getting the extra CL spot. That's horrible because La Liga
[1:08:16] is going to provide us with. I think, I think if you've a
[1:08:18] Milan. Valencia's in relegation.
[1:08:20] If if you've a Milan, Atlanta went through to the next round,
[1:08:24] probably probably would've gotten it, but.
[1:08:26] Regardless, I think we still make, I still I feel, I think we
[1:08:28] make top 4, but. You're gonna have to fight for
[1:08:31] that top 4 now. Like as a fan, like I just want
[1:08:34] to watch better football and the season has been better football
[1:08:36] to watch and I want Vlovic out of the club like for free, but I
[1:08:40] want to bust and just. If if you guys did watch that
[1:08:43] Atlanta or UVA game, the that was one of the biggest blunders
[1:08:46] I think I've ever seen, but I'm just.
[1:08:47] That bro fucking season. Forget forget.
[1:08:49] His one slip up like that just sums up an entire season.
[1:08:52] Yeah. Like.
[1:08:53] I get what you bro Kulumani in for five games.
[1:08:56] I saw like the light and the Kulumani isn't even like he
[1:09:00] wasn't even like an Aussie man in 2022, you know, like, I don't
[1:09:04] know, I I still have like I still have patience and hope for
[1:09:06] the club, but like shit like this, like obviously it doesn't.
[1:09:08] Mean it. It leaves a death.
[1:09:09] But I won't let it ruin my day because if, if I like he was the
[1:09:11] manager right now, you would. There's no hope.
[1:09:13] There's no if likely likely was the manager.
[1:09:15] He wouldn't be here for the podcast.
[1:09:16] We'll call it a day, but listen still in Seria like we'll do it.
[1:09:20] We'll quick, quick shout out to Roma because 1 nothing versus
[1:09:23] ampley, but I I checked the recent form and I have watched
[1:09:27] some of the games, but the recent form brothers, they
[1:09:29] haven't lost the game since like November.
[1:09:31] Yeah, it's more about the recent form, but I really, really found
[1:09:34] like a team that could consistently come in and fight
[1:09:37] for a win, which back in like they were almost near
[1:09:40] relegation, which was crazy. Back in October?
[1:09:42] Yeah, Back in October. Well, they they bounced through
[1:09:45] well, technically 3 manager, 10 years, no.
[1:09:47] De Aussie. De Aussie You don't see Judith.
[1:09:50] Judith. Judith back to De Rossi.
[1:09:52] No. No, no the.
[1:09:53] Vanieri de Ranieri, but then. They're doing good in.
[1:09:56] The relegation problem, by the way.
[1:09:58] Yeah, but you know what? With who?
[1:10:00] Lester's last season. Oh yeah, won the premier.
[1:10:03] League won the Premier League. But was when he left they were
[1:10:05] not was Selegation later you also relegated that one year
[1:10:10] leader relegation. Lost Kante with Mahrez Mahrez.
[1:10:17] But listen, Ranieri did exactly what was asked of him.
[1:10:20] Literally just keeping everything calm, stabilizing the
[1:10:24] ship. So and.
[1:10:25] For a Roma level team you need an Allegory Ranieri Conte type
[1:10:30] manager. Ranieri is also a good coach in
[1:10:33] in terms of world football. But I'm I'm creating a project.
[1:10:36] And also don't compare Conte to these two, these two managers.
[1:10:40] And. Yeti won your league bro Conte
[1:10:42] everything. The biggest Conte whatever team
[1:10:44] he joined in sister bro Conte in your league, whatever team he
[1:10:48] joins instantly goes into title contenders.
[1:10:51] The other two managers are not the same 1.
[1:10:55] And how many does that he have one?
[1:10:57] OK. And how many said he has does
[1:10:58] that he? Have and one was managing
[1:11:00] Leicester. How many said he has?
[1:11:01] Does he have any that I need to have?
[1:11:02] Yeah, well, when I don't know if he has Premier League.
[1:11:04] But Roma? No, he doesn't.
[1:11:06] Ding, Ding, Ding. Actually, do you know this?
[1:11:09] Can you check? He.
[1:11:10] Know this? You know this.
[1:11:10] He coached Roma. Yeah.
[1:11:12] Yeah. And then he has a did.
[1:11:13] He coach in 2000. That's what I'm thinking.
[1:11:15] When they won 1999, no. I don't think so.
[1:11:17] I. Don't remember but he's still
[1:11:19] obviously a very well respected manager in Italy like.
[1:11:22] That. He has as a.
[1:11:24] Player. Oh, as a player.
[1:11:26] And one thing that I've ever said last, I think it was last
[1:11:29] podcast about having a coach that brings in positive
[1:11:32] mentality when you're in a downturn.
[1:11:34] He is literally like the embodiment.
[1:11:35] That that hit firms hard 'cause he brought well, he remembers
[1:11:38] that. No, because I thought about it
[1:11:40] and I'm like, you know, it makes a lot of sense.
[1:11:42] You have Constance Sao, who's always like arguing.
[1:11:44] He's saying there's no hope. We're screwed.
[1:11:46] We're. Very, very confrontational.
[1:11:47] Yeah, which like when you're at the top, that's good to have
[1:11:50] never. Won a, never won a.
[1:11:52] But what what teams he coached? Roma, I think he coached.
[1:11:56] In Roma, Calgary. Monaco, Fiorentina, Valencia.
[1:11:59] Dan Buster. Did he ever coach enter?
[1:12:01] Calgary I'm not. I'm just looking at his cups.
[1:12:04] But I never you said enter, he this guy coach, enter.
[1:12:08] He doesn't even know if he coached his own club.
[1:12:10] That's yeah, but. You know what he wants to call
[1:12:11] anyways? I think he may have done.
[1:12:13] A season. He's coached Roma Calgary
[1:12:16] Watford Sandoria Roma Forgot the column Nant Leicester Greece
[1:12:21] Monaco Enter Told you for. 20/20/11.
[1:12:25] September 20. September 22nd, 2011 to March
[1:12:27] Class 6. I even gave you the right year,
[1:12:29] wanker. Roma UV Parma, Valencia, Chelsea
[1:12:33] Athletico. Inter Roma UVA doesn't have a
[1:12:35] city. Valencia, Fiorentina, Napoli
[1:12:38] Conversations. Bro trying to compare this
[1:12:40] brother to Conte is crazy. Yeah, but this guy's not a is
[1:12:42] not a title. Ranieri, that Leicester title is
[1:12:47] literally in the abyss of. Forgotten.
[1:12:50] You're acting like it's not the biggest achievement the manager
[1:12:53] has ever done. Sure.
[1:12:53] But that one achievement doesn't equal all the city has.
[1:12:57] That Conte is one all the you. Could debate that anyways, what
[1:13:00] I'm saying is that like a positive outlook for a team
[1:13:02] that's in a downturn is like revolutionary because you you
[1:13:06] need like that little hope and that that positivity while
[1:13:10] you're going to training while you're you're going against
[1:13:12] teams that you know are better than you.
[1:13:13] And, and he understands Roma, like he understands the culture,
[1:13:16] which is extremely important because I feel like with a
[1:13:18] conscious Sao, like you walk into a meal and the way you, you
[1:13:22] act a certain, if you act a certain way, it goes against
[1:13:25] the, the values or the, the feel of the club.
[1:13:28] Like Ranieri's been there before and he's always said like
[1:13:31] there's only two teams that could Take Me Out of retirement.
[1:13:33] It's Calieri and Roma. So he knows.
[1:13:35] Exactly. And he's backed, he's backed by
[1:13:36] Roma. You can feel it.
[1:13:37] And the players feel that energy behind the fans and the fans are
[1:13:41] supporting them. And look at that, they're
[1:13:42] they're doing pretty well even against Bilbao right now.
[1:13:44] So. Yeah, I think they're 21 up.
[1:13:47] Yeah, I think so. 21 up. So they're doing well, but they
[1:13:50] still have a long way to go and set yeah, they they really have
[1:13:52] to make up a bunch of points, but listen, the way they're
[1:13:55] playing, it's fantastic. And listen, quick mention for
[1:13:58] the two Milanese teams. We came back from 2 nothing
[1:14:01] down. We suck.
[1:14:02] K quick mention. Done.
[1:14:03] K, let's move on. Anyways, Chelanoglu goal
[1:14:06] anyways. Very nice.
[1:14:08] Terrible. It's fine anyways.
[1:14:09] Interstate above. Interstate first, if anyone
[1:14:12] cares about that, because Barbara doesn't care about that.
[1:14:14] Napoli winning. By one point.
[1:14:16] Even after Napoli won today, yeah.
[1:14:18] But they were above. We're always going to be.
[1:14:20] Above we were above by one point anyway, so.
[1:14:22] What you play? Play Monza.
[1:14:24] Don't you play 0? You play.
[1:14:25] Atlanta, we play Atlanta next week.
[1:14:27] So that's that's a huge. Game bro, I was looking at the
[1:14:30] table. I'm like Atlanta like.
[1:14:31] They could make a battle. Contenders right now.
[1:14:33] Really, it's a three horse race. We.
[1:14:34] Lose to Atlanta. Next, if we lose it, I'm.
[1:14:36] Gonna come back here OK with a bladder full of piss.
[1:14:38] Oh fuck, I'll talk about a knack.
[1:14:40] That's all I'm gonna say. Can come if I was gonna come
[1:14:42] with a half the chub, obviously so.
[1:14:44] He's ready. He already has one right now.
[1:14:45] Got. That Millie texted the group
[1:14:46] chat right right during the. Game I had to know.
[1:14:50] I go, I got. This rebuild in the cards or
[1:14:53] what? Did you say something?
[1:14:55] A lot of Italian clubs need a rebuild right now I'm.
[1:14:57] Gonna copy and paste the same message.
[1:14:58] Don't worry if you guys are losing throughout the I will
[1:15:00] copy and paste the same message. It's fine.
[1:15:02] I would deserve it then if that happened.
[1:15:04] But definitely entertainment in Seriaso, it's gonna come down to
[1:15:08] the wire, pretty much, yeah. And yeah, so now Volvo, you
[1:15:12] could take it away with the topic that you introduced us at
[1:15:15] the beginning. Well, there was a report this
[1:15:17] week that leagues were looking into potentially putting games
[1:15:20] in the United States of America or just internationally to be
[1:15:24] honest. Like how the NFL has games in
[1:15:26] Munich, London and stuff like that.
[1:15:28] They were looking into potentially doing so putting
[1:15:30] games in let's say Miami or New York or something like that.
[1:15:33] So this begs the question, should leagues like the City are
[1:15:38] and the Premier League be looking into putting games in
[1:15:40] the USA? I see this as the first league
[1:15:44] that implements this and gets the approval from FIFA will have
[1:15:47] a major advantage of grabbing this new market in the Usas
[1:15:51] because like a Lee Luxedia that is actively trying to get
[1:15:55] American players and trying to grab the Americans attention.
[1:15:59] If you put like, let's say a a Juventus versus an Inter, it's
[1:16:03] going to be hard to get the big marquee matchups.
[1:16:05] But even like a Roma versus a Milan, all the people that are
[1:16:08] going to that game now have, like us, a little bit of an
[1:16:10] affinity for these two clubs 'cause they got to watch the
[1:16:12] match. This would be do so much for
[1:16:14] whatever league ends up doing this.
[1:16:16] I like it, but it comes down to the type of game that is
[1:16:19] playing. Like you said, you need a
[1:16:20] marquee match up because if you don't have that, like nobody is
[1:16:23] really coming to watch. No, no star player at at the
[1:16:27] field. You need like a big game, like a
[1:16:29] a La Liga, like Atletico Madrid, Barcelona would be nice, Milan,
[1:16:33] Juventus. That almost happened.
[1:16:35] Barcelona versus Athletico pretty much got cancelled, but
[1:16:38] it was supposed to happen in Miami this season and time
[1:16:41] constraints made it so it was impossible.
[1:16:42] So yeah, something like that would be massive.
[1:16:44] But I don't know if I don't know if Milan Roma sells out.
[1:16:48] No, unfortunately I don't think there's the players that you put
[1:16:51] entice people to watch that. You put it in New York, it's it
[1:16:54] sells out. It also yeah, it depends where
[1:16:56] in the US. But you can sell out a 20,000
[1:16:58] person stadium for a Milan Roma game 70.
[1:17:00] Thousand, yeah, but is that even worth moving the Sanciro 70,000
[1:17:04] seater to there? OK, well, you can, yeah.
[1:17:06] But listen, you sell out. They sell out 20,000 seats for a
[1:17:10] summer for a summer of Roma Milan game.
[1:17:12] Well, the 20,000 is different. I'm talking about.
[1:17:14] What about if it was a? Study and convince now try and
[1:17:16] convince Milan and Roma to move a 70,000 seat stadium to a
[1:17:21] 20,000 seat stadium for one. But what I'm saying was, would
[1:17:24] you drive to, let's say, would you drive to New York to go
[1:17:27] watch Manchester United versus Chelsea if it was in the summer,
[1:17:30] in a summer tournament? Yes.
[1:17:31] In a summer tournament, No. No, but if it was a Premier
[1:17:33] League 1, you would yes. So if I'm saying that they're
[1:17:36] able to sell out 20,000? For a match and Chelsea is
[1:17:38] different. I think.
[1:17:41] But Manchester United and Chelsea is different.
[1:17:44] No, but I think I think that's not my point.
[1:17:45] That's I don't think that's the point he was trying to make.
[1:17:47] He was trying to make that like if once there's there's stake,
[1:17:50] there's a stake to it, then a lot more people are going to be
[1:17:53] much more motivated to go to the game.
[1:17:55] So a friendly game, obviously. There, there, there's no.
[1:17:59] Stake selling 20,000 for a friendly?
[1:18:01] Yeah, you would sell 50,000 for a Setiac game.
[1:18:04] Yeah, well, even just a couple years ago when they had what was
[1:18:07] it, International Champions Cup or whatever, like they did it in
[1:18:11] the States and they had a bunch of marquee teams play in the
[1:18:13] summer. They they were selling out
[1:18:15] MetLife. Yeah, they were selling out a
[1:18:17] bunch of games. And listen, they didn't really
[1:18:19] play marquee players in every single team.
[1:18:21] It was just the draw of the clubs.
[1:18:23] But I think you bring in a team, you bring in two teams where
[1:18:27] those three points mean something.
[1:18:29] I think a lot of interest is gonna be there.
[1:18:31] So it really just depends the team and where in my opinion.
[1:18:35] Yeah, that too. I had to say something but I
[1:18:37] forgot. I don't think personally if I
[1:18:42] think if Milan, let's just take the example of Milan Roma.
[1:18:46] If Milan Roma played in the US and 50,000 seats, I think the
[1:18:49] first time it was sell out, but come the second, third, fourth
[1:18:52] time I think as interest Dwayne's no.
[1:18:55] But every year if you put Milan Roma, you need to always put two
[1:18:59] of the top four or five in my. Yeah, well, well, La Liga would
[1:19:03] have to do the same thing with Barcelona, Athletico and Real,
[1:19:05] like they they know that. No, but I think real in
[1:19:08] themselves would have enough interest in the US that they
[1:19:12] would sell out a game. But that's because of the the
[1:19:14] players that they have. You're going to watch an Mbappe,
[1:19:16] a vinicious, yes. Like unfortunately, if you're
[1:19:18] looking at a Syria game, even an Inter Milan, there's just a
[1:19:22] rivalry. It's just a story, yes.
[1:19:24] You're not going to watch the player.
[1:19:25] Clubs that are selling tickets, not the players, yeah.
[1:19:28] It's really pro and con and then in Italy you're losing a lot of
[1:19:31] viewers for that game obviously because they're not coming to
[1:19:34] the stadium for a big match. Up the time zone's gonna be
[1:19:36] screwed up for Italy, yeah. That's a big game, I didn't
[1:19:38] think. About The game's gonna be very,
[1:19:39] very late. Just play it at 3:00 here.
[1:19:42] You put on a weekend. 3:00 and ends up.
[1:19:44] Being like a Sunday 3:00 game and it's the same time as a
[1:19:46] regular like today. Once again, if you're in the US.
[1:19:49] No, no. Well then, East Coast are
[1:19:51] chilling. Well, no, it's it's The thing is
[1:19:52] if. You're doing it during NFL
[1:19:53] season Sunday. OK, so well.
[1:19:56] It's not NFL season right now, but your technical game would be
[1:19:58] happening. Now, these are not obstacles in
[1:20:00] my opinion. Yeah, I don't think they're just
[1:20:01] these. Obstacles and then see see like
[1:20:05] see like enters in a title charge and they they have a game
[1:20:07] in the. US so do to the beginning of the
[1:20:09] season. Maybe.
[1:20:10] Yeah, that's a, that's a good way to go about it, but.
[1:20:12] Like, there's so many things you can do to make this, like, as
[1:20:15] unobtrusive as possible, but also as important as possible.
[1:20:18] Yeah. Are European fans being unhappy
[1:20:21] about this is understandable because everyone likes to
[1:20:24] Gatekeeper, yeah. Their you know, it would be cool
[1:20:27] as if Copa Italia or something they.
[1:20:30] Do. But that's what they do already
[1:20:31] in Saudi. Arabia, but Saudi like I would.
[1:20:34] I would rather have that market in the states.
[1:20:37] I'd rather try to do both. If, let's say if that would be
[1:20:40] cool, if it would make the the, let's say FA Cup for English
[1:20:45] teams, we start doing round the 16 and above in the US, that
[1:20:48] would be pretty cool. Yeah, but then you're going,
[1:20:50] what, every three weeks? But the issue with that is, but
[1:20:53] the issue with that is that let's say you get a pretty
[1:20:55] shitty like like the FA Cup literally right now, the eight
[1:20:58] teams that won't sell tickets. Yeah, that's a oddity, actually.
[1:21:02] You know, even when Man United won the FA Cup, like.
[1:21:05] There's a lot of shit teams that make it through sadly.
[1:21:08] I think I think we'll see what the Club World Cup like.
[1:21:09] I know there's there's some lower level teams, but the the
[1:21:13] big, the big boys are still going.
[1:21:14] Like there's Manchester City, there's a Real Madrid Inters
[1:21:18] there. You've been here like these are
[1:21:20] good games to watch in the US. So we'll see if there's a
[1:21:23] interest there. There's so much stigma around
[1:21:26] United States and football, like soccer.
[1:21:28] Europeans like just this. Like, even like we were talking
[1:21:32] about the halftime show. They're trying to gate keep
[1:21:33] their sport. Yeah, and you see in the
[1:21:35] comments, like they're talking about like, like, like, why are
[1:21:38] Americans choosing these things and stuff like that?
[1:21:40] Like, bro, if you're a fan of Seria and you live in Italy,
[1:21:43] don't you want the sport to grow?
[1:21:45] Don't you see how shit the league is right now?
[1:21:46] And you want the league to grow and get a different market.
[1:21:49] But I think we're we're looking at it from an outside looking in
[1:21:51] perspective. I feel like Italians in Italy
[1:21:53] may think like it's just them in Europe.
[1:21:56] Yeah, but look where that got them.
[1:21:58] But it it's not like, I don't know, it's more of AI think it's
[1:22:02] an emotional thing because like the half time show is say your
[1:22:06] team is losing 30. You're you're a Roma fan born in
[1:22:10] Rome and you're watching 1/2 time show.
[1:22:13] Like it's not like the NFL where your teams you don't really have
[1:22:16] an attachment to them. Like do you have an attachment
[1:22:18] to the Dolphins? Well, it's more like like.
[1:22:21] I mean, I would hope so. Yes, yeah, no, but you're not
[1:22:23] from Miami like. You don't care like you're not.
[1:22:25] That's not who you are. I like.
[1:22:27] Yeah. Like I'm not a Miami like Nate,
[1:22:30] I don't have affinity to Miami. Yeah, what you're saying, But I
[1:22:33] have an affinity to Italy and Inter.
[1:22:35] Yes, but it's not it's more emotional for the people in the
[1:22:37] stadium, it's for the TV people watching on TV.
[1:22:40] Exactly, so imagine I'm from Rome and my favorite team is
[1:22:44] Roma and I'm watching Roma get destroyed 30 and then there's a
[1:22:47] half time show at. Least you get a Drake concert
[1:22:49] out of it. But bro, I don't want a Drake
[1:22:51] concert. I'm fucking right now.
[1:22:52] Man United could be down 4 nil. I'll take a Drake concert.
[1:22:55] But that that's. Crazy, but that one Roma fan is
[1:22:58] always going to be a Roma fan regardless of where they play
[1:23:00] the game. They could be, yes.
[1:23:01] They could be fucking. Hate these fans bro I saw
[1:23:03] everyone in the comments exactly what you just said.
[1:23:05] But I imagine you're losing 20 and then you see Drake come out
[1:23:08] and start rapping. Bro close the TV if you don't
[1:23:10] want to watch it. It's it's entertainment for a
[1:23:12] World Cup final. You're already getting 300
[1:23:13] million people watching it. If you put 1/2 time show and you
[1:23:16] have 500 million people watching it.
[1:23:17] The sport is growing. Like, look at the big picture,
[1:23:19] everyone. I'm four.
[1:23:20] It's not about. I'm for a halftime show.
[1:23:22] Halftime. I'm just saying if your team is
[1:23:24] playing there and you're from that city that your team is
[1:23:26] from, you're just. It's countries, it's for the
[1:23:28] World Cup they're talking about the halftime thing is it?
[1:23:30] Yeah, yeah. World Cup.
[1:23:32] World Cup final. Cup is even worse.
[1:23:33] Imagine. Imagine your country is losing
[1:23:35] in a final and a halftime show comes up.
[1:23:38] I don't think you guys, it's 'cause maybe like you guys don't
[1:23:41] have the official. TV bro.
[1:23:43] I have the. Forcing you to watch you're not
[1:23:46] like. Yeah, bro if bro if Italy is
[1:23:47] down to nothing in a World Cup, you.
[1:23:49] Want to tell you about to say you're not Italian.
[1:23:51] Yeah, your citizenship is revoked, yeah, sure.
[1:23:53] But when it comes time for fucking EUR and World Cup and
[1:23:56] shit, I'm as devoted as anyone. But like, if Italy was down to
[1:23:58] nothing in a World Cup final, and then I see Drake singing
[1:24:02] Hotline Bling, like I'm not gonna say like, I hate Italy.
[1:24:05] I I hate this. I'm gonna be like.
[1:24:07] OK, what is this? I mean.
[1:24:09] I'm just going to watch the viewers.
[1:24:11] Wait a minute. OK.
[1:24:13] Bro, get over it, bro. I went to I went to the Montreal
[1:24:16] Canadiens in a champions in a Champions League final, in a
[1:24:18] Stanley Cup final, down 30 in A7 game series versus Tampa.
[1:24:23] And I'm sitting there and we're losing or whatever it was, and
[1:24:26] I'm my team's about to lose in a Stanley Cup Final that is like
[1:24:28] the Champions League for NHL. And I'm listening to like them
[1:24:31] panning on the screen of people dancing on the thing on the
[1:24:34] Jumbotron. Like Canadians?
[1:24:35] Yeah, Montreal. Canadians at the Bell Centre
[1:24:37] like people dancing on the Jumbotron and trying to spruce
[1:24:39] up the. Violence and maybe I have the
[1:24:40] European mindset but I do not understand that.
[1:24:42] I personally like I cannot see myself dancing in a stadium
[1:24:45] while my team is losing 30 and there's a half time show going.
[1:24:47] On. Well, they kind of do.
[1:24:48] I like the. Idea of it I don't mind.
[1:24:49] For the people in the stadium. Was it for?
[1:24:52] It's for the. Viewer.
[1:24:53] They do it for the viewers. The.
[1:24:54] Viewers, Lamar. I'm a viewer.
[1:24:57] You're a viewer in the stadium. You're literally .0001 K.
[1:25:01] I'm a I'm a viewer game watching on TV.
[1:25:03] It's the same. What are you saying?
[1:25:05] So you're OK People who actually have emotional investment within
[1:25:08] a game. Let's say a World Cup is
[1:25:10] literally .1% or 1% of the viewers.
[1:25:12] Let's say if it let's say it's Italy versus Argentina World Cup
[1:25:15] final. Let's just say that's population
[1:25:17] of what fucking how many are in Italy?
[1:25:19] 4050 million. 5040. So that's let's just say
[1:25:22] Argentina. Let's.
[1:25:24] Say A. 100 million a 100 million people.
[1:25:26] There's doing the math, 20%, this is generous. 20% of people
[1:25:34] watching the game have an emotional investment to it.
[1:25:36] That's generous. That's super generous.
[1:25:38] My my, our parents, our moms, our aunts, our cousins, our dad,
[1:25:42] all people that may not be intense football fans are
[1:25:45] watching how much. How much has this halftime show
[1:25:47] grown the Super Bowl massive massively.
[1:25:50] But bro, I, I, you go on Twitter and UK people aren't speaking at
[1:25:54] all about the game, but they're speaking about the halftime
[1:25:56] show. Oh my God, you see Kendrick
[1:25:57] Lamar dish Drake? No one spoke about the game.
[1:25:59] No one. I don't see a single.
[1:26:01] Tweet about the good though it. Brings eyes bro.
[1:26:04] It's something because not people are going to watch the
[1:26:06] next year if it's a debatable. Person I would say like do the
[1:26:09] halftime show but only in the states like the World War for
[1:26:13] the for the. U.S.
[1:26:14] Special event I. I think every World Cup final.
[1:26:17] If Chelsea is losing for nothing to West Ham at home halftime,
[1:26:20] you're not going to Central Sea come out.
[1:26:23] No, that's what I'm saying. Day in the life, let's see if
[1:26:25] you really trap. You're not doing.
[1:26:26] No, I would fucking get pissed off too.
[1:26:28] Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
[1:26:29] I'm saying like, yeah, it's. But that would make for amazing
[1:26:32] content on football. Twitter though, That's fucking
[1:26:35] funny. That would make amazing content.
[1:26:37] But what I'm saying is that like the halftime show is something
[1:26:39] specific to the Super Bowl. That's an American thing.
[1:26:42] So you're the World Cup is in America, you would do the
[1:26:44] halftime show in America 'cause that that's like the custom for
[1:26:47] a big sporting event in the United States.
[1:26:50] But let's say they bring that World Cup to Argentina.
[1:26:51] It should still be done. I'm not expecting.
[1:26:53] Should be an I'm not expecting 1/2.
[1:26:55] Should be a It should be South American artist.
[1:26:57] Yeah, yeah, it could be. Bunny the the but Bad Bunny
[1:27:00] Puerto. Rico, but yeah, but yeah.
[1:27:01] Huh. I said Bad Bunny, but Bad Bunny.
[1:27:04] Things. That, that, that.
[1:27:08] That one, yeah, Go get Junior 20.
[1:27:11] Wait, which was it? The Copa liberate, the doors
[1:27:13] that had that? You see all those things, they
[1:27:15] Oh yeah, that halftime. Show it was, it was like was a
[1:27:18] specific, it was a specific band to that.
[1:27:20] Specific town like when all the poems the the poems and the guys
[1:27:23] just singing in this mariachi band.
[1:27:25] But bro and and find solutions. If you don't want a halftime
[1:27:29] show 'cause you don't want to watch your Roma 'cause you're
[1:27:30] Aroma fan losing 1/2 bro put at the beginning everyone would
[1:27:33] enjoy watching Coldplay. Well, they do that in Europe
[1:27:35] like like the EUR, they would do like a.
[1:27:37] Do an opening. That's a good show.
[1:27:38] Bro they do an anti. Ceremony, opening ceremony, they
[1:27:41] do that. Let's say the Olympics.
[1:27:42] Bro my family, they don't give a shit about football, they care
[1:27:44] just about important matches. They would all TuneIn and they
[1:27:46] enjoy watching Coldplay performing before a a World Cup.
[1:27:50] But you have to choose the right artists.
[1:27:51] Bro and like it or not, like the male population in Europe has
[1:27:55] probably totally been sucked into soccer or football like a
[1:28:01] lot of a lot of girls watching Super Bowl just for the halftime
[1:28:04] show. OK.
[1:28:06] So it will help grow the sports also because it's going to
[1:28:09] attract female viewership also. But what now?
[1:28:13] They're going to start watching football like.
[1:28:15] Yeah, but I'm not. I'm not.
[1:28:16] What's what's their goal? They're going to know.
[1:28:18] Oh, they're going to say no, There's.
[1:28:19] No work up. Already let's say let's say
[1:28:21] Inter make a seal final OK, a girl doesn't know who Lataro
[1:28:25] Martinez is good, but if they're.
[1:28:27] Sitting. If if there's a Drake halftime
[1:28:29] show she's now, they'll sit through the first half while
[1:28:33] speaking to her. Who's that La Taro Marti?
[1:28:35] So I would take her, put her in another room.
[1:28:38] I'm watching my game. Shit so.
[1:28:39] So now that girl is gonna be watching Seria because of La
[1:28:43] Taro. But she'll know.
[1:28:44] At least she'll know. But.
[1:28:45] But you have a better chance than if you don't do anything.
[1:28:47] Yes, and they're not even changing anything about the the
[1:28:49] actual game. It's literally just a a, a
[1:28:51] halftime show. But the only thing they're
[1:28:53] changing is the is the time of halftime, because it won't be
[1:28:56] just. It'll have to be 30 minutes.
[1:28:58] It'll be like a 20 to 30 minutes and that really affects the
[1:29:00] players. So.
[1:29:02] They get more rest. So do 20.
[1:29:03] Minutes. They end up getting cold.
[1:29:05] If you do it at the beginning, I like that idea like it's not
[1:29:07] more logical. Like half time is better 'cause
[1:29:09] it makes them watch the half, Yeah.
[1:29:10] The first half, yeah. I doesn't work.
[1:29:13] Okay, here's my I'm gonna ask you would you lose viewers by
[1:29:17] doing it? No.
[1:29:18] Would you see someone say I'm not watching because of the
[1:29:20] halftime? Why are you saying saying, yeah,
[1:29:22] no, probably not. So once.
[1:29:24] Well, these, these emotional people who have affinity to the
[1:29:27] team, they might turn off. They're watching.
[1:29:29] No matter. What?
[1:29:31] You could put a 2 hour halftime show they'll watch because they
[1:29:34] want to watch their team. Really.
[1:29:36] Italy's down 50? You're watching.
[1:29:38] Drink that. That's like a really like like
[1:29:40] like. In my extreme situations, once
[1:29:42] in generation type games. Bro the France Argentina game,
[1:29:46] you put a banger at half time, I'm going nuts.
[1:29:48] Loses the momentum I find. Bro, you have to realize bro,
[1:29:51] that like Farber said, the people that actually care like
[1:29:54] that super, super care. Are watching no matter.
[1:29:56] What so and they they watch no matter what and they, and it's
[1:29:58] such a small percent, like we all watch the Argentina, France,
[1:30:01] we couldn't care. We we didn't really, we wanted a
[1:30:04] messy maybe to win or we maybe had small agendas, but we don't
[1:30:08] have affinity for France or Argentina.
[1:30:10] We would have we would have benefited by a halftime show.
[1:30:13] It's more entertainment if you're getting a free Drake.
[1:30:15] Concert bro what? What are we complaining about?
[1:30:18] I think, I think what it is, is that they may see it as like AI
[1:30:20] think what they're seeing is that.
[1:30:21] Doesn't matter who it is. It, they see it as like, it's
[1:30:23] almost like commodifying the World Cup final or something
[1:30:26] where it's, it becomes like a product.
[1:30:28] I agree it is a product. No, but it's, it's a sacred game
[1:30:31] at the end of the day. It's it's a game that only
[1:30:33] happens every four years. Then what are you gonna do,
[1:30:35] Charge more? You're gonna charge more for the
[1:30:36] ticket. 3030 thousand like you're. 30.
[1:30:39] Billion, billion dollars, 'cause you're in the US and they're
[1:30:40] known. No, no, no.
[1:30:41] No, no, no. Anyways, commodifying final, any
[1:30:44] World Cup final, the tickets are going to the same price.
[1:30:46] But you add a Drake now it fucking went up.
[1:30:48] Who? Cares about the tickets to the
[1:30:50] game but that's like fucking 50,000 people.
[1:30:52] Yeah, I'm just saying 1000 football is a sport for
[1:30:54] everyone. Like it's it's not supposed to
[1:30:55] be. One is saying that you have to
[1:30:58] go Brazilian and final is not going to World Cup final.
[1:31:01] You have to see the game out of. It's a game for everyone, it's a
[1:31:04] game for everyone. So everyone gets a free Drake
[1:31:07] concert out of it bro. But sport of football allowed a
[1:31:12] kid in the Brazilian favelas to watch a Drake concert for free.
[1:31:16] I don't I think. I think the the point is getting
[1:31:19] lost like. From no because the Europeans
[1:31:22] gate keep this fucking sacred sacredness of the game.
[1:31:25] Their sport will get smaller if they if they always think like
[1:31:28] this. Still the first biggest sport in
[1:31:29] the world. Exactly, NFLNFLS going into
[1:31:32] Europe no issue selling out massive stadiums selling out
[1:31:35] Wembley and shit. Tottenham Stadium for games.
[1:31:38] Americans know how to market shit.
[1:31:39] They they just know how to market stuff.
[1:31:41] But if a European wants to go into USA, it's the end of the
[1:31:44] world. Because USA is soccer.
[1:31:47] Yeah, it's soccer. Poison soccer.
[1:31:50] Let's see. Let's see what?
[1:31:50] The Club World Cup. They're the first thing in the
[1:31:52] US, yeah. We'll say like something that's
[1:31:54] gonna be like. Again, that could low key be a
[1:31:56] just a. We'll see how it ends up, but
[1:31:59] there's a possibility of it just being a glorified preseason
[1:32:02] tournament. I mean, with the money that
[1:32:03] they're throwing around, the money that they're.
[1:32:05] Throwing around, they're gonna care.
[1:32:06] They're gonna care. Fans might not you.
[1:32:07] Better put an incentive. No, I'm sure fans will.
[1:32:09] Care, but you can make more Juventus in theory contact.
[1:32:12] We make more than they made in Champions League this year at
[1:32:14] the Club World Cup. Yeah, winners making like 150
[1:32:16] million or whatever. I thought it was 90.
[1:32:18] Eight, 100. Yeah, something crazy.
[1:32:20] But still bro, imagine that clubs.
[1:32:21] Can make in excess of 100 million, I read.
[1:32:24] Yeah, OK. But just just for playing you
[1:32:26] make 30. I'll take that any day of the
[1:32:28] week. Bro.
[1:32:29] That's a transfer waiting to. Have.
[1:32:30] That's a Peter Sutrich right there bro.
[1:32:33] Well, that's a. That's a throwing a Drake
[1:32:35] concert to get more viewers. No, not even.
[1:32:37] That's on the teta bro. No bro, we don't.
[1:32:38] Just show we don't shop on the teta.
[1:32:40] We don't show, we don't shop in the liquidation aisle, bro.
[1:32:43] Worry about your own purchases. Oh.
[1:32:44] Yeah, OK, I'll I'll be playing at a couple of cup.
[1:32:46] Bro go to go. You bought it off the back of a
[1:32:47] truck bro. Forget the liquidation aisle,
[1:32:49] Dodegu, that's the back. Dodegu, you got off of like a
[1:32:52] Fiat Topolino, bro. That's what you got it.
[1:32:54] You got it at the back of a Fiat 600.
[1:32:56] That's what you got it out of. You didn't get out of the you.
[1:32:58] Can't be making fun of Fiat bro. Don't worry, not too soon.
[1:33:00] Soon, soon. Soon, soon.
[1:33:03] The new box, the box will be OK we.
[1:33:07] Can't fit in it but. Our clown car.
[1:33:10] No, no, but I'm I'm excited for the Club World Cup.
[1:33:12] I don't know about a halftime show.
[1:33:13] If they do something like that, be crazy.
[1:33:15] But it does lead in to our next topic though, which is 64 teams
[1:33:20] in the World Cup. OK, this is where we draw the
[1:33:22] line. Yeah.
[1:33:24] Halftime. Says the sacred game.
[1:33:26] We need the sacred game. The Game 6014.
[1:33:29] To that, they're already because the plan is, I think what they
[1:33:32] said was for this US World Cup, they're already expanding from
[1:33:35] 32 to 48 and then the 100th anniversary, they want to go
[1:33:39] from 48 to 64. Now hear me out.
[1:33:41] I'm not. Fucking let anybody play in the
[1:33:43] World Cup. I'm not completely against it as
[1:33:47] long as it's a one time thing. 100th anniversary it was 64
[1:33:51] teams and that's it. Next World Cup, it's back to 32.
[1:33:53] I don't I don't like why. I'd be back to 48.
[1:33:55] Because, well, I would prefer 32, but whatever. 32. 32 also
[1:34:00] because it's it and it also makes the qualifying more
[1:34:02] entertaining also. Maybe you're able to watch
[1:34:04] everything. But from a money standpoint, you
[1:34:06] want to get as many teams in as possible.
[1:34:08] Because as many teams as possible.
[1:34:10] Yes, please. Please.
[1:34:11] But but if 100 and. 20. Eight.
[1:34:14] If it were just a one time thing, 64 teams I think it could
[1:34:17] be pretty cool, but technically changing to 64 would be
[1:34:22] terrible. Bro it happens once every four
[1:34:24] like it's too. It's too special to like to pass
[1:34:27] put like an. Odd, but you have to.
[1:34:28] This is 100th anniversary. This is like a special special.
[1:34:30] OK bro I think I make an extra 9. 9% of fans, they don't even,
[1:34:33] they don't know where was hosted.
[1:34:34] The first one was hosted, they didn't know what year like.
[1:34:36] Yeah, but but they, they're, they, they can profit off of
[1:34:39] the, the, the historic part of it. 100th anniversary Whoever
[1:34:42] wins this World Cup, you want on the 100th anniversary.
[1:34:46] Yeah, that was a big. I don't know where the fuck the
[1:34:47] first Super Bowl was, but Super Bowl 50s are pretty special.
[1:34:50] I just find you're, you're like they try to, they're trying to
[1:34:52] harp on like something that yes, it's just a number.
[1:34:55] But it's not just a number. I know, but the change at the
[1:34:57] 64. 64 teams. The quality of play is gonna
[1:35:01] severely plummeted unfortunately. 64 games.
[1:35:03] Depends where these 64 teams are coming from.
[1:35:05] Yeah, well. You're gonna get.
[1:35:06] It's gonna be a qualification. Like, I don't want to see Fiji
[1:35:08] in the world. Cup.
[1:35:09] Well, you will you. Will you will enjoy that?
[1:35:11] Enjoy that? No, you see if if honestly, I.
[1:35:15] Bats are gonna get cooked like a.
[1:35:16] But the games are gonna get cooked.
[1:35:17] Like India, like the like this, this team's never made a World
[1:35:21] Cup. Now they're gonna have made it
[1:35:23] because it's the 60. So what what's it's an extra 16
[1:35:25] teams? If ten of them came from Europe,
[1:35:28] I wouldn't mind. They keep being no.
[1:35:33] But it's 'cause no, no, but get it's, it's, it's back to my my
[1:35:37] Super League argument. The most quality is in the
[1:35:40] European teams. But they cream will rise to the
[1:35:43] top if given the right qualifications.
[1:35:45] Just just the World Cup is for the world, so whatever they
[1:35:48] decide to, however, they decide to divvy up the remainder.
[1:35:51] What we're saying like if you split the extra 16 by saying,
[1:35:54] OK, Asia, you get 4 Africa, you get 4 North America.
[1:35:57] Well, no, no, that's going to dwindle the quality a lot.
[1:36:00] Because they're going to be forced to.
[1:36:02] Asian football is not at the level like if you start
[1:36:05] including like Pakistan, Pakistan's national team is not
[1:36:08] to the level of who's like a country that missed the World
[1:36:10] Cup because Sweden, like Italy, Sweden plays Pakistan.
[1:36:14] That's going to end 7. Nothing, yeah.
[1:36:16] He's that Patrick? And then and then plus just
[1:36:18] watching these games, it's going to be an absolute disaster.
[1:36:20] Like, yeah, there might be like four or five games of this.
[1:36:23] And I said, I said that there's a like a level of diluting the,
[1:36:28] the the fun of having like Max. How many groups are we usually?
[1:36:33] Sounds 888 it's letters no ABCDEF e.g.
[1:36:39] It's it's 8. 8 So now you're gonna have with 64 teams divided
[1:36:43] by what, 4-4 Then you're gonna have. 16.
[1:36:49] Let's box to Box Math 1616. 1616 that first you.
[1:36:53] Have 16 groups that's that sucks.
[1:36:56] But for me, it's fine if you do it once, like if it was that one
[1:37:00] World Cup where it. Makes it even worse.
[1:37:01] Bro like yeah. And then what?
[1:37:03] You're gonna go back to to 48 or.
[1:37:05] It's as a celebration. Celebratory tournament.
[1:37:07] Yeah, guys. It's so fun, but the World Cup,
[1:37:09] it's already fun. Yeah, I know.
[1:37:11] Like I don't think when you celebrate 100 like make it 100
[1:37:13] years as like. It happens every four years,
[1:37:15] like you're gonna waste. Happen every year, OK.
[1:37:18] Yeah. Bro these these players are
[1:37:20] gonna get so gassed. Because this is not the 100th
[1:37:22] World Cup. This is the. 100th anniversary.
[1:37:24] How many World Cups have happened since?
[1:37:25] Then if it's divided by 425, this.
[1:37:28] Is the 25th like, well, 25 and you're making the 25th 1
[1:37:31] special? But was it?
[1:37:32] Was it the 1940? 30.
[1:37:35] No, but was it 19? Was 1942 was probably cancelled?
[1:37:39] Yeah, that one was probably cancelled.
[1:37:41] It was posted in Germany. Yeah. 1942 World Cup was not
[1:37:46] hosted in Germany bro. I can't tell.
[1:37:48] You it was you never saw the picture of I.
[1:37:49] Don't remember. Are you fucking stupid?
[1:37:53] Box the Box 19. Bro you know how it was
[1:37:55] happening in 1942? I'm well aware of what was
[1:37:58] happening in 1942, but the world wasn't clearly aware.
[1:38:02] Nottingham Forest was not in top of the league, no.
[1:38:04] I think Inter Inter wasn't when he said yeah.
[1:38:07] That I'm going to be careful of our but I'm going to get this
[1:38:08] information telling you 19401938. 381942 vacated 1946.
[1:38:15] No, but I'm. I'm Italy.
[1:38:17] Damn. It's crazy what I'm saying.
[1:38:19] Yes, do not search up 19. What is it?
[1:38:23] 1948 World Cup? Do not search up Barber.
[1:38:26] That includes you. Yeah, now, now it's like, don't
[1:38:29] press the red button. Yeah, now we're looking it up.
[1:38:31] But all I'm saying is I'm sure there was a World Cup that got
[1:38:34] cancelled somewhere in time, so. Yeah.
[1:38:37] But I mean, it just so happens that it works out.
[1:38:40] Yeah. I don't think they're looking at
[1:38:42] the 25th. They're looking at the 100
[1:38:43] anniversary. Podcast every four years and
[1:38:46] then the 100 years, 100 years later where it's only our 25th
[1:38:49] episode, we do something special.
[1:38:53] Don't. Give us ideas.
[1:38:54] I'm looking, I'm thinking of this, brother, 64 teams.
[1:38:57] There's going to be so many games and it's not like this is
[1:38:59] the one tournament in four years, brother, Brother, there's
[1:39:02] there's Club World Cup, then there's the EUR, get the war,
[1:39:06] then there's other stuff that happens in between AFCON,
[1:39:09] whatnot. Brother, they're in the world.
[1:39:11] Cup, my God. Jeepers.
[1:39:13] They Ronaldo get 1000 goals. The live stream going.
[1:39:15] Yabba dabba Doo oh. My, you might get it now. 16
[1:39:19] groups. But I might have to put more
[1:39:20] screens up is what I'm seeing. Holy guacamole should.
[1:39:23] We tear on the walls. But I'm saying TVTVTVTV.
[1:39:28] Yeah, you'll cover 1/5 of the games going on.
[1:39:30] Literally. But that was a good, that was,
[1:39:33] that was, and those are some good.
[1:39:34] Topics and if you guys want to see the CL preview.
[1:39:37] Yes, that's what I was going to tell them.
[1:39:38] Yes, check us out so our. Champions League preview, like
[1:39:41] last week is going to be going out on our Patreon where we have
[1:39:43] an extended podcast last week, this week we're going to see in
[1:39:46] the future, but for now we're enjoying the extended pods.
[1:39:48] So if you want to see what we think about the second legs,
[1:39:51] then go check it out there. We got a new video YouTube
[1:39:54] exclusive. We exactly Patreon exclusive
[1:39:56] coming out Patreon exclusive YouTube video coming out soon on
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[1:40:00] interests you? We're live streaming.
[1:40:02] We're live streaming entries, video catches our our live
[1:40:05] reactions. Yeah.
[1:40:06] Enter's gonna be on the TV. You could also check out our our
[1:40:09] highlights of the reaction after if you guys really want.
[1:40:12] Yeah. However, be on the live streams
[1:40:14] because. It's actually kind of mental how
[1:40:15] much content we put out thinking about, like, explaining about
[1:40:18] it, explaining it. It's actually insane, yeah.
[1:40:21] We got to work bro. We're not done yet.
[1:40:24] He's not done. And today, no, we're not done
[1:40:26] job. Finished.
[1:40:26] Job ain't done. Job not finished.
[1:40:27] Yeah. We are not finished.
[1:40:28] Job is not finished. But that was episode 48, and if
[1:40:33] you guys want to see anything special for episode 50, maybe
[1:40:35] leave some comments, maybe give us some inspiration.
[1:40:38] Yeah, exactly. Well, and we'll double the
[1:40:41] members to 8. What for what like like the 64
[1:40:45] teams will double the box the box we'll do 1/2 time show or
[1:40:48] yeah producer producer T reveal at halftime on our on our.
[1:40:52] Podcast Halftime show producer T Halftime.
[1:40:55] Show also last last. Thing last.
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[1:41:03] Crazy Power rankings episode 50 Enter.
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