# BARCELONA TOP LA LIGA, INTER STOPPED BY NAPOLI AND THE DOWNFALL OF MILAN | Box2Box Podcast EP. 47

An episode of [Box2Box Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1743312473), 3 Mar 2025, 1 h 39 min.

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EPISODE 47 IS HERE! La Liga football gave us a lot of drama this week as the title race is still completely open. We also talked about a potential Neymar return to Barcelona... is it possible? There were also some big match ups in Serie A for the title race while Milan fall down the table even more. CHECK OUT OUR PATREON FOR BONUS CONTENT: https://www.patreon.com/Box2BoxShow Varvar's instagram: @varvar_b2b Pala's Instagram: @luca.palazzese Mili's Instagram: @amiliziano Ferms' Instagram: @fermini_ TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 INTRO 07:17 LETS GET INTO FOOTBALL

## Transcript

[0:00] Welcome back to the Boxer Box podcast.
[0:02] This is episode 47 and a lot of drama in La Liga this weekend
[0:05] and his name are coming back to Barcelona.
[0:07] And the Syria title race is down to the wire.
[0:09] Enter and Napoli share the spoils, but Milan.
[0:12] Is there a downfall right now? And should teams with a 00 draw
[0:15] get 0 points? All this and more on the Boxer
[0:18] Box Podcast. Let's go.
[0:21] You ain't going home your. Honor, I'm sorry, Your Honor,
[0:25] I'm sorry the. Pitch and Bangula start.
[0:38] Would you rather? Welcome back everyone.
[0:53] We are getting ever so closer to episode 50.
[0:56] Before we start, just happy Ramadan to all those who
[0:58] celebrate. Yeah, and boys, anything
[1:00] eventful happen in your week? Manchester United continue to
[1:03] suck all. Before, before we get into the
[1:05] depressing state of our teams. It is what it is.
[1:08] Bring all life out of me. Even Milan.
[1:10] Down for free. For free.
[1:12] For free. They didn't have to pay.
[1:13] Not. Even a they're forcing it, huh?
[1:16] Crazy. We're not even asking for it
[1:17] too. Crazy.
[1:18] Work, but no, I honestly it was a quite an eventful week.
[1:21] Uneventful. Yeah, well, as as if you guys
[1:24] don't know, we live in Canada, which got pelted with another
[1:26] snowstorm. Yeah, the best.
[1:27] Brutal. Three back-to-back to back
[1:29] snowstorms. Get to work.
[1:30] You know what's crazy is that it's snowing.
[1:32] The melting, snowing, the melting.
[1:34] So our roads actually look like they're all craters.
[1:36] Yeah, they're all. You cannot drive straight that
[1:39] you're you're swerving in other lanes.
[1:41] Mention is gone. Cooked micro fractures out the
[1:44] wise wound that in that in those springs.
[1:46] Yeah, not looking, not looking good for the automobiles, but
[1:48] if. We're talking about the weather,
[1:49] then clearly our weeks were not very.
[1:52] Uneventful. I think, I think there was no
[1:54] live streams this week, so it was like we were able to just
[1:57] focus, get some stuff done on the back end and stuff, no.
[2:01] Premier League. Well, Prem was like midweek or
[2:04] something. It was.
[2:04] Something crazy it was. Oh yeah, but another FPLW by the
[2:07] way. Oh, really?
[2:09] Same for me. Firms.
[2:10] Really Firms. Yeah, that.
[2:11] Was the one versus me. Yeah bro, I'm going don't.
[2:14] Lift that bro, don't lift that this guy.
[2:16] Apparently it was close. This guy beat me by two points
[2:19] because Kudos and Bowen did not record an host assist.
[2:24] They did not get an assist on FPL.
[2:26] Both of them got assists. I I didn't watch the game but
[2:28] apparently it was an own goal and Boeing shot the shot and a
[2:31] hit on goal and I guess that counts as an kudos.
[2:34] Kudos. Lord knows bro.
[2:36] Kudos did not get an assist at any point.
[2:37] There wasn't a pen I'm. Not sure so.
[2:39] Fraudulent win is what I'm hearing.
[2:40] Extremely fraudulent, I mean fraudulent win but 15 points
[2:43] ahead. First in the table bro.
[2:45] Who got succeed to the top 15 points ahead?
[2:47] Of second. Yeah, get to work.
[2:50] Vava is that who sound. But I beat, I beat 2nd place
[2:54] this week. I'm third, but I beat second
[2:55] place. You fell.
[2:56] You fell. I think I remember the last time
[2:58] we spoke about it. But you.
[2:59] Went to I went into a a depressionary FBI is where I
[3:02] didn't touch it for like 3 weeks.
[3:03] Well, your strikers, your strikers were all injured.
[3:05] Oh my strikers and your voice. I had to explain my striker
[3:08] situation right now. It's actually like it's tough,
[3:10] but it might actually be worse than Man United like in real
[3:13] life. I have OK toilet that's that's a
[3:18] zero at one point every week for 90 minutes plus a yellow card
[3:21] not even 70 minutes plus a yellow card guaranteed write
[3:24] that off every weekend perfect Solanke injured this guy was
[3:28] supposed to be out for a couple weeks turned into a couple
[3:30] months. So that one, write that one off.
[3:34] And then I had who who did I have?
[3:37] I had the the the Igor Tiago, Oh my God, Striker, who was their
[3:42] massive jet signing this summer? Tony just came back.
[3:46] Yeah, Tony replacement who just came back from injury.
[3:49] And then he got injured and injured.
[3:50] So then I dropped him. I'm like there's, there's really
[3:55] no attackers. Yeah, that's the problem.
[3:56] There's no attackers in our league, so you either trade for
[3:59] one or you pick one up off of waivers, and the waivers player
[4:01] was Darwin Nunez and his brother.
[4:03] I was hoping he would somewhat break into the starting 11.
[4:05] Next thing you know what he gets into a fight with Slot and he's
[4:08] not even perfect. 11 so. But in the box, the box FPL,
[4:11] you're doing good, no? Yeah, I'm, I'm, I think I'm
[4:13] around #10 around. Pretty good around I.
[4:16] Think I'm 70, you guys know. 7070.
[4:19] Or maybe I did 70 points. I don't really check that often.
[4:21] I'll check. Right now I think.
[4:23] I'm maybe like 100 and. 50 but I was moving pretty high. 70K
[4:26] yeah, I don't know. I had a good start and then I
[4:29] think I just waned all off. Yeah, with my team.
[4:31] I'm still winning the cap. I had a bad week this week and
[4:33] I'm down to 26 in box a box. I forget to change my lineups.
[4:37] Yeah. So you're so focused on that,
[4:39] the other, the other one, because there's their stake, I
[4:42] feel like. Drafts are so much nicer than
[4:43] than. Europeans once they once they
[4:46] realize how great drafts could be it.
[4:48] Makes it fun look. What's happening in NFL NFL
[4:50] drafts? More fun NFL drafts are getting
[4:53] so good that like so like large scale that people are actually
[4:57] keeping the same league every season and their picks for the
[5:01] next season, the order of their picks.
[5:02] I want to start a league like that with like us and friends
[5:05] cuz that's that's so much fun. Like in trade draft?
[5:09] Last year, yeah, you finished last on purpose, so you tank so
[5:12] that you can get Halen next year first.
[5:13] Pick Those are the best drafts every time you go about that in
[5:17] the NFL, like you could trade picks like in future drafts
[5:21] like. You could do it on the app or
[5:23] you're saying, yeah, really. Together.
[5:24] Okay, yeah, like they they like there's guys trading like their
[5:27] 2026 a second that's a second rounder and it's like 2020 and
[5:32] it's fantasy like. But the issue with that is that
[5:35] let's say one of your boys stops playing fantasy.
[5:37] His picks goal was cooked that. Whole team cooked.
[5:39] Then somebody inherits he's. Somebody buys it, buy it off of
[5:42] him, Yeah. Yeah, they have to inherit it,
[5:44] but then. Something like that firms you're
[5:45] an 83rd box to box FPL. Pretty good.
[5:49] How many do we have like? We have a lot of members here.
[5:51] Let's see. Shameless plug.
[5:53] Box Box show. Host is doing better than
[5:56] million that's. Average.
[5:57] That's average I. Was 135 and you guys are right
[6:00] next to each other one. 35136 structures.
[6:02] Twins, yeah. Actually, one, yes, two cheeks
[6:05] of the same ass. Who's number one shut out number
[6:07] one number. One KM 37 will be main with 37.
[6:12] Man United fan. So corny bro.
[6:14] Man United fan. Anyway, we know for those that's
[6:17] our FPL league that you could only join if you're in the
[6:20] Patreon. Exactly, we had we had a fan of
[6:22] people. Who made me dropping 15 points
[6:24] this weekend Crazy. Who's picking up Cocodella?
[6:26] I don't know, but he he had this guy.
[6:28] He has a decent team. We saw Bruno Fernandez, Clivert
[6:32] Palmer, Mosala Bowen, Alexander, Alexander Arnold.
[6:36] Decent team, no Sala. Cheeky.
[6:38] He doesn't. Mosala.
[6:38] Oh, he does. Probably Captain Crazy.
[6:40] No Captain Cole Palmer for some. Reason very cold.
[6:44] There I saw some tweets about that Cole Palmer.
[6:47] Cole Palmer deserves to be arrested.
[6:49] The amount of times I've taken my captain on him and he's done
[6:51] dropped, nothing deserves to be. Arrested.
[6:53] I've kept solid captain my entire season.
[6:55] That makes more sense. Haven't.
[6:56] Moved it but that maybe that's why you're 83rd it.
[6:58] Is what it is bro. Dobby, Dobby.
[7:01] Who's your star player? I can't remember off the top of
[7:04] my head, Probably Holland. See, that's the difference
[7:06] between US and 83rd with firm. Guy probably has this.
[7:09] Guy probably has Christian Eriksen.
[7:10] No, I don't. I think I had a decent squad.
[7:12] Ashley Young, captain, triple captain.
[7:16] Anyway, let's get into football. La Liga's been La Liga's been
[7:19] pretty in the main, the main spot in the in football
[7:23] community because I mean, listen, we have Anthony
[7:26] plastered all over, all over the highlights.
[7:28] They're treating this. Guy like, yeah, they're treating
[7:30] this guy like the face of La Liga.
[7:31] Every time you open your phone. If it's not a, if it's not Real
[7:35] Madrid or Barcelona or Athletico, it's Anthony, Yeah.
[7:38] But. They just bagged their first bad
[7:41] bitch. They don't know how to act.
[7:42] Yeah, but that ain't like. A bad bitch, yeah.
[7:44] That ain't that ain't like a bad bitch, bro.
[7:45] That's like no, that's just like that's just like he his memes
[7:51] transcended sports. Like we saw NFL teams posting
[7:53] this brother. So like this guy, by the way.
[7:56] Man United pull right there. That's that that poll, like
[8:00] you're not the commercial pull of Manchester United is
[8:03] something like. That I'm glad you're flexing bad
[8:05] players. I know you can't lift wins or
[8:06] trophies, so keep lifting that. OK, but now think about it as a
[8:09] as a POV from a footballer, OK, OK, Commercially you are one of
[8:14] the biggest footballers in the world.
[8:16] So you can only get negative press and you're getting made
[8:19] fun of and that's your claim to fame is getting made fun of.
[8:22] Yeah, that's you. Being made fun of is better than
[8:24] not being in the news. You've never been You've never
[8:27] caused a player to be lift. Debatable.
[8:29] I. Don't know about that.
[8:30] Would you rather be Anthony or Dumfries?
[8:33] Depends on trophies. The gap Financially, Anthony's
[8:38] probably making double what Dumfries is making.
[8:40] Probably. I don't know.
[8:41] I'm not going to say anything. No, I have no.
[8:43] Idea. I think Anthony's on 200 KA
[8:44] week. That's pretty crazy.
[8:46] I'm 50. Dumfries probably making
[8:47] probably 5 mil 5 or 6,000,000 a season.
[8:49] I don't. Know Trump Change for us, buddy.
[8:52] Listen bro, you're just like, I don't know your footballing
[8:55] career. You worked all all, you worked
[8:56] hard to get there, and you're known as a joke.
[8:58] You a lot, a lot of the players just look at it as a as a
[9:00] financial sheet, bro. I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I
[9:02] wouldn't. A lot, especially a lot of
[9:04] Argentinian, Brazilian players where their dream is to play for
[9:07] their clubs in Brazil or Argentina when they get to
[9:10] Europe. It's kind of just.
[9:12] Get that bag. Get that bag.
[9:13] Yeah, depends. It is, but even even
[9:15] Argentinians and Brazilians are calling Anthony names.
[9:19] Meanwhile, Anthony is playing for the Brazilian national team
[9:22] and those same Brazilians are behind their keyboards.
[9:24] Yeah, I know, but Brazil national teams not the same as
[9:28] 20 years ago the. Italian national team, yeah.
[9:30] Let's. Got called up though.
[9:32] Yeah, I got called up, but listen, real Batis with Anthonys
[9:36] doing wonders by listen, we'll start off with it was the
[9:38] earlier game in the week, which was absolute movie Parsa versus
[9:43] Athletico and four, four back and forth football but.
[9:47] Who made this line up right here that we have written down in
[9:49] this flick mentality? Dad comeback.
[9:52] Athletico came back. Well, it was a comeback against
[9:55] the comeback. Yeah, they both dropped.
[9:56] It was 2, nothing. Athletico.
[9:58] Yeah. Then 42 Barcelona and then 4444.
[10:01] 4 Zuvi multiple. Mentality does, so I would
[10:04] consider that a Simeone mentality.
[10:06] Does well. I wouldn't.
[10:07] Disagree with you? Went back for band.
[10:10] Listen like somebody outperformed their XG and it
[10:13] wasn't Barcelona. Barcelona got out XG.
[10:16] No, I said somebody outperformed their extra.
[10:18] Yeah, but once again, only only gonna show Scar came out of the
[10:22] quote this week about XG, he said.
[10:23] Why are we still listening to that guy?
[10:26] Since he came into Bashiktas, Bashiktas is like undefeated in
[10:29] Turkish league. No, bring him back.
[10:30] Check that that is a box to box Fact Check.
[10:32] So anyone in this? Information begins this
[10:35] information. The Bashiktas fans in the
[10:37] comments are going to let us so we.
[10:39] Also generated 3.5 XG. That's ridiculous, Millie.
[10:42] What does that? Mean.
[10:43] What does that show right there? When did he come in?
[10:45] That's mental, that's a mentality.
[10:46] He came in, yeah. I'm assuming after Europa
[10:49] League. I think after this.
[10:51] OK. No, Kiyaki was here for this
[10:53] game. So I think after this Demi sport
[10:55] game, he he has lost one game. The rest are all wins.
[10:59] But chicas are under Ole our serious game.
[11:01] But about the XG thing that Ole said, he said you, you let me
[11:05] take a shot from somewhere and you let the reporter that I'm
[11:08] looking to take a shot from somewhere.
[11:10] I will score. He will miss the net deer like
[11:13] really bad. So like it really depends.
[11:15] I don't get it. Who's taking the shots?
[11:18] Ole Gunners like he Gunners, Ole Gunnar Scholzkar has done more
[11:23] same thing as our Tetat Arsenal. So why should we listen to our
[11:26] Tetat arsenal if we both finished second?
[11:28] Fries in the back, bro. Yeah, but what?
[11:29] What is that like? There's not even relevance to
[11:31] that quote. So so if let's say one player
[11:34] has a specific skill set that he's really good at shooting
[11:38] from this one location, let's say cut in from the left wing,
[11:42] and every time that player puts it top bins, that's gonna be a
[11:46] .11 XG when realistically it's like a .4 for him.
[11:50] I've been saying yes, I know. Points like player specific XG
[11:53] but there's there's not enough sample size for that.
[11:55] But regardless, over 1000 games, XG will always prevail the team
[12:00] more XG will win the games. Because it always it always
[12:02] regressed to the mean. But that specific if you go
[12:07] micro situation by situation, there's an explanation for why a
[12:12] .11 went in. What's the what's the
[12:14] explanation of of Inter getting 0 XG in the second-half versus
[12:18] monopoly this week? That means that there's frauds
[12:21] and yell fine or to watch out. Yep, so star courses.
[12:25] Zero shots, 0 XG in the second-half versus Monopoly.
[12:28] What's? The anyone who watched our
[12:29] YouTube video is actually really funny because someone today
[12:32] actually spoke to me. He's like why was inter freak?
[12:34] Why was Millie freaking out about you predicting 3 nothing
[12:37] when he predicted 2 nothing? I got yelled at in the YouTube
[12:41] video for saying 3 nothing. Why do you?
[12:44] Even can text me even can text me he's like really I really
[12:48] need to know like what what happened like why were you so
[12:50] upset at the inter part? I said, Ken, this is something
[12:53] that happened behind the scene. This is this is the warm up
[12:56] where I I told my. Dad, we were rage.
[12:58] I I said I got successfully rage baited and one of.
[13:01] The comments today was these guys rage baiting each other so
[13:04] hard. I don't know if they're friends
[13:05] anymore or the rage bait is getting so bad.
[13:08] Not that friends, so some behind the scenes stuff, but anyways,
[13:11] it's fine. Yeah, it happens.
[13:12] Simone really doing wonders with this Athletico team, especially
[13:16] after last year where you can kind of say, OK, when it was
[13:19] kind of it was kind of like allegory Juventus, you're kind
[13:22] of wondering, OK, when's this time going to run out here?
[13:24] Like, like how much how much legacy points is he going to
[13:27] keep dragging on, dragging on? But then this summer they really
[13:30] showed faith in him. They bought practically every
[13:32] player he wanted, even no matter the price.
[13:35] And you can even see at the end of the game, it wasn't this
[13:37] Barcelona game, but I think Athletico played again.
[13:40] And the clip went viral of Connor Gallagher at the end of
[13:43] the game, 90th minute, running full speed on the pitch,
[13:46] tackling everyone. And he was celebrating it like a
[13:49] goal. Him and his assistants were
[13:51] celebrating it like a goal. So you can feel the Athletico,
[13:55] even though a lot of clubs probably don't look at
[13:57] Athletico's place down and say, oh, my God, that's exactly what
[14:00] I want. But if you look at Athletico's
[14:02] resume in a league with Barcelona and Real Madrid, so
[14:04] superior financially. Have an identity.
[14:07] Yeah, for him to be able to build a squad, honestly, a club,
[14:12] I wouldn't even say a squad, Yeah, club.
[14:14] This guy built the club and then rejuvenated that same club he
[14:17] built. So he single handedly carried
[14:19] Simeone into this decade. I find because he he instilled
[14:25] that ideology that I don't think Athletico he created a new
[14:28] ideology for Athletico. I don't think they were like
[14:31] that prior. And now it's just an like I know
[14:33] we all think of Athletico as an extremely well run club, like
[14:36] without many holes, the transfer is loose and we trust him a only
[14:40] a lot more 'cause there were questions being as he's in
[14:42] Sorelov, Julian Alvarez, a lot of money on guys.
[14:45] Well, Gallagher, Gallagher, from day one we knew he was a hard
[14:48] worker, but the other two like questions.
[14:51] But like now, I'm not gonna. Call even Alvarez was 80 million
[14:54] or something. Crazy.
[14:54] I'm not gonna question his, I'm not gonna question his transfer
[14:57] policy anymore. I'm a big believer of Simeoni
[14:59] being one of the most underrated managers ever, potentially
[15:02] because, yeah, club optics really play a big what do you
[15:07] mean by that? A big part in a manager's
[15:09] legacy. I feel like if he wasn't doing
[15:11] this Athletico, he he joined Athletico when 2010 around Yeah,
[15:15] 20/11/2010 Athletico and Liverpool.
[15:18] Let's say he joined Liverpool instead.
[15:19] They're not that far off of like a a comparison in 2010.
[15:23] Liverpool was terrible in 2010, but Athletico in 2010 were
[15:27] terrible as well. So let's say he would have just
[15:29] done this exact same job that he did Athletico at Liverpool.
[15:32] You'd be talking about probably one of the greatest managers of
[15:34] all time, potentially conversations.
[15:36] Of the Prem tax. Yes.
[15:37] Well, no, it's not. I won't say Prem tax.
[15:39] I think whoever does that like CLOP deserves the flowers that
[15:42] he thought. So I wouldn't take that away
[15:44] from CLOP and say it's Prem tax, but it's more like because
[15:47] because Athletico is not a Liverpool, a Real Madrid or a or
[15:51] a. Like a tier one?
[15:52] Yes, I know it. Works both ways.
[15:54] Yeah, it helps him in. It helps him in seasons where he
[15:56] didn't do. Well, yes, I agree.
[15:57] Like, like this. They gave him more leash because
[16:01] in those down years where Athletico weren't as good, maybe
[16:04] at a Liverpool you wouldn't have gotten that leash.
[16:06] Yeah, but I mean, it's paying off.
[16:09] Yeah. I mean Andrea Berta, sporting
[16:11] director of his Leave Athletico Madrid.
[16:13] I need you at my club, apparently.
[16:15] Manchester United, please. He is linked to Premier League
[16:17] clubs. Yeah, but I think, I think it's
[16:19] not gonna be Manchester tonight. I was reading Arsenal, but I
[16:21] saw. Arsenal as well.
[16:22] Which would be a good fit. Honestly, I think him and Arteto
[16:24] would get along Yeah, stylistically, cause Arteta is
[16:27] very much like Simeone. Yeah, I I believe you have a
[16:30] very different. No, I don't.
[16:31] See it in big matches. I think it is.
[16:33] In big matches, yeah, Green, big match.
[16:35] And Athletico, when they go and play in olives, they have 65%
[16:39] possession, 70% possession. So I, I think it's very similar
[16:42] stylistically, but yeah, the other side of the table, Barsa,
[16:45] I'm kind of turning, I'm kind of turning my head on Barsa.
[16:48] Now it only took like literally every single thing to.
[16:51] Now that four nil against real associate that was very
[16:53] convinced. Dominant.
[16:54] Yeah. Associate that had zero shots on
[16:56] target, zero shots in in the entire game.
[16:58] Yeah, which is crazy because obviously Barsa's defense, we
[17:01] saw it in the Barsa Athletico game, they have these leakages
[17:04] where like one counter attack and you're cooked.
[17:07] But it's it's almost like the the there's games where it's
[17:09] like they're a Fortress, but then if you play the exact same
[17:12] way against the wrong type of opponent and the goals will just
[17:15] keep flying. So it's a mixed bag.
[17:18] But when they're 100% that, it's like, it's amazing to watch
[17:22] Fortress. You, you say the exact same
[17:24] thing happened in the Atletico Madrid game.
[17:26] They're up four, three or even you can say 4-2, but whatever,
[17:29] let's just say 4, three because this specific instance, the last
[17:32] goal came from them playing a highline, the 90.
[17:34] Eight that minute that I cannot understand.
[17:38] I cannot understand. You're up by one goal in the
[17:39] 95th minute. You do not need to be playing a
[17:41] highline. You don't.
[17:42] I agree playing a highline for 70 minutes of the game,
[17:45] whatever. But you don't need to always
[17:48] play it. There's situations where it's
[17:50] better off dropping back. Because it because this idea is
[17:53] you guys score 4, we score 5. But at the 90th minute, it's not
[17:57] like you're looking to score, more like just sit back and soak
[18:00] up the pressure. You can also there's also two
[18:02] extremes to that where look at enter against Napoli and we're
[18:06] going to get into it later. That is, soaking up pressure
[18:08] completely also is not a great. Thing, yeah, but when you go
[18:10] into the second-half with that idea versus going into the 80th
[18:13] minute? It's like.
[18:14] Unless Barcelona, unless they've had no history under flick of
[18:18] learning this, learning a block, which is impossible because
[18:21] every manager should teach a block at a simple level.
[18:23] I don't think Flick knows how. Like I don't think that's in his
[18:26] repertoire. He's never played that.
[18:28] Bro Empoli like any team can play a block.
[18:30] It's literally just sits at 11 men.
[18:32] It's way more not in his ideas. It's way more complex than just
[18:36] get men back. Hansi Flick should be able to
[18:38] teach teach Barsa how to play. It's not about teaching.
[18:41] He doesn't want to do it. That's the thing.
[18:43] Like with Barcelona then? You have these draws which
[18:45] should have been a win. Should have been a win.
[18:47] Barcela worked hard to get that lead.
[18:48] They were dominating, dominating Athletico.
[18:51] They should have get. They should have gotten the win
[18:52] out of this. Yeah, but I mean, look, you go
[18:55] into the set is the second leg at which which where's the
[18:57] second leg? Is it at the it's not at the
[18:59] camp new because but was this I think this was at like it was
[19:04] Barcelona were at home. I think it's so, yeah.
[19:06] Wonder. Yeah.
[19:06] So that's gonna be, I think so. Yeah, I think so.
[19:10] Why am I think it's the other way?
[19:11] Well, Polish checking, but I think if you're going into the
[19:14] second. At the Olympic, yeah.
[19:16] So it's in Madrid? No, no, no, no.
[19:18] Barcelona. Yeah, Because.
[19:19] Because athletic. No, it was the first game was at
[19:22] Barcelona. Yeah.
[19:23] Next game is gonna be in Athletic.
[19:24] Athletico Madrid at home looking at a potential cup final against
[19:28] probably probably Real Madrid, but I.
[19:30] Mean 10. It's not a massive question.
[19:33] It's it's. Real only 110.
[19:35] Yeah, but I still you're probably looking at a Real
[19:38] Madrid final. Yeah, yeah.
[19:39] So Athletico Madrid will want to get.
[19:41] A final Imagine. Imagine Athletico.
[19:43] Real, Yeah. 2. Athletico real a final and play
[19:47] versus each other around the Yeah I would get tired of.
[19:49] Them. So which game do you say like
[19:51] fight to the death in? There's like 7 of them.
[19:54] If it's contest Sal, you play out all of us at the weekend and
[19:57] it's a. You like a cat?
[19:58] You have 9 lives. Keep dying.
[19:59] Keep dying, yeah, how many more fights that whatever we get into
[20:02] new line after, but yeah, that it was a pretty interesting
[20:06] game. I mean.
[20:07] But you need to talk about the other side.
[20:08] Yeah, of of wait, did we talk about the other side of the real
[20:11] game of Esco and Anthony? No, we didn't speak about Esco,
[20:14] but Esco, the Remontata this guy's had in his career after
[20:19] the Albettis pretty. Eventually last season.
[20:21] It's not. It's not a one season.
[20:22] It was in our team in the season, I think Potential
[20:23] videos, most likely, yeah. But Isco was a player that I
[20:29] think peak 20/16/18 this guy was.
[20:32] So good magician. Batiste in the standings, Do
[20:34] they have a chance of being a Champions League?
[20:35] They're. 5th or 6th, I would like to see them.
[20:38] They're right behind. I don't know. 6th I would take.
[20:41] They're 6th place, yeah, there's six points off of this They.
[20:44] Can't really make CL. Yeah, they can't, but that would
[20:46] be nice to see them in CL. I think they have like.
[20:48] They have an interesting squad. Yeah, they have like they have
[20:51] like Americans with Cardoso, They have Isco.
[20:55] The Spurs have an actual. Nandez, Juan Hernandez and this
[20:58] guy from MLS. Hernandez, yeah, He plays for.
[21:01] He played for. Columbus bro, he was like a top
[21:03] league top scorer from yeah. And now they have Anthony.
[21:07] They sold, they allowed Vitor Roque back to Barcelona.
[21:10] That deal. Did you see that Barcelona have
[21:13] a gold Golden Boy? No, not Golden Boy.
[21:18] No, they have a balador clause on Vitor Roque to Palmera for
[21:23] two mil. That's obviously never gonna get
[21:26] 2 mil 2 mil. That's.
[21:28] Not even. It's not even worth it.
[21:30] That's one of those, that's one of those add-ons on FM that you
[21:33] add in. Oh, let's get them to accept.
[21:35] Are they gonna accept 2 mil for the Balandor?
[21:37] Potential value of the deal is like 40 million or 50 million,
[21:41] but it's because of. Guaranteed is five, Yeah, and
[21:44] they accept, but. Regardless, the La Liga table is
[21:46] definitely gonna be. Interesting and and La Liga, I
[21:49] think and signing high and Anthony's somewhat of a high
[21:53] profile player, but signing high profile players like Real Betis,
[21:58] it adds interest to the league. Like he added a lot more
[22:01] interest to this Real Madrid Betis game.
[22:03] I would have never watched the Real Betis game.
[22:05] It wasn't for Anthony or or you see.
[22:08] What are you talking about? It's Real Madrid and BAPE, yes.
[22:11] But that's just another Real Madrid.
[22:13] Game did you watch associated that semi?
[22:15] I mean, I'm not a league enjoy like that, but Barcelona plays,
[22:18] I watch, Real Madrid plays I watch.
[22:20] But. You're not going to watch Real
[22:21] Madrid now. So a year ago did you watch Real
[22:24] Madrid Betis? Chances are not because there's
[22:26] not enough pull in a real mid Betis game.
[22:29] You're just going to. You would only TuneIn if you saw
[22:31] Oh Real Madrid. Or no, Real Madrid has the pull,
[22:33] not batiste with Anthony. Yeah, but it it, it adds to the
[22:37] the. Anthony has more pull than
[22:39] Batiste. OK, but I'm not tuning in
[22:41] Batiste games, I'm tuning in Real Madrid games.
[22:43] Yes, that's his perspective, but a lot of people, what they're
[22:46] saying is a lot of people like are curious more about Anthony,
[22:49] Yes. And him going to Batiste brings
[22:51] in a lot of interest to the game.
[22:52] Santos, some people watch. Neymar.
[22:55] Yeah, I almost, I haven't yet, but I almost, they almost got me
[22:59] closer. They almost got me, but I
[23:00] wouldn't even watch that. Yeah, legal stream.
[23:04] The most illegal stream. We don't illegally stream, guys.
[23:07] We don't illegally. I only watch WE television
[23:10] broadcast. I I'll pay for it.
[23:12] Who pays for the subscriptions over here?
[23:14] I do I I will find a subscription to watch the Santos
[23:17] here. This is why. 80% of the viewers
[23:18] don't watch this podcast. It's 'cause of you.
[23:20] Who pays for the subscriptions? I do.
[23:22] We're just, we're just, my goodness, I got reminiscing
[23:26] making you into an edit. Funny bro with the paper like
[23:28] making me an all that alien screaming at a bunch of people.
[23:31] I pay the bills in this House. Sounded like my father for his
[23:34] SEC. Oh my God, no.
[23:36] But yeah, honestly, Real Madrid, this was a low blow for their
[23:42] just overall morale. Like I know obviously Champions
[23:44] League, it's a like they turn it on, but they let they let La
[23:48] Liga slip right now and Barcas first.
[23:50] So not a really good look for Real Madrid.
[23:53] Like, I think for me, the question is like, how much do
[23:56] you let Champions League cover up what's happening in La Liga?
[24:00] If you keep winning it bro, if you can cover.
[24:02] Up no wins in five games for around Madrid.
[24:04] Yeah, in La Liga they haven't won a game.
[24:05] God. Like Napoli?
[24:06] I think no wins in five. Game power rankings, Power
[24:09] rankings where you guys have who's?
[24:10] Gonna put put next week. Nottingham Forest.
[24:13] Are. We doing it next week or we're
[24:14] waiting for the CL round? We'll we'll discuss.
[24:17] We'll discuss. Let us know what you guys want
[24:18] in the comments. You want power rankings after CL
[24:22] round the 16 or after the first leg.
[24:24] Yeah, yeah, 'cause we want to wait until the thing we want to
[24:27] until it's done, Yeah, until the the round, that round the 16 is
[24:30] done, 'cause yeah, it would be stupid.
[24:32] We do a power rankings then instantly changes locked.
[24:34] Out, yeah, No, you want to do it after, Yeah, a little bit of
[24:37] value. What I don't understand about
[24:38] Real Madrid is a sensor was such in a form of his life that he
[24:41] just gets benched for this game. It just makes no sense the
[24:44] substitutions that Ancelotti's doing.
[24:46] Did you guys see that Ancelotti, with that super team at AC
[24:50] Milan, only won one league? That discovered this right now
[24:53] and now he's. Holding it up, Nobody.
[24:55] It is a crazy. Fact but.
[24:56] Back then, managers weren't as scrutinized as they are now.
[24:59] In nine years at Milan they only won one league title.
[25:02] He was different, but he won two, he won two Champions
[25:04] Leagues, I'm pretty sure with Milan, right?
[25:06] Yes, Enter was winning four in a row 5.
[25:07] Years. For nine years.
[25:09] That's what I read. 9 is crazy. Well, in two. 1003 until 2007.
[25:16] Well, no into into one all of those, pretty much.
[25:19] Yeah, you're not teaching me about what's you did this Milan
[25:23] won. But what I'm saying is
[25:25] Angelotti, like he wasn't a winner in in the serial with
[25:29] Milan. He was there for 9N of 2001 to
[25:31] May 2009 so. I don't think so, I was a bit
[25:34] off. Yeah, but only one league title.
[25:36] OK, 2 Champions League covered it up.
[25:38] Yeah, 22 CLS it helps. But, and it was the best, never
[25:42] been a league manager, you could say that, but then he's won the
[25:47] league in every top five league. He's won at PSP, at Bayern, at
[25:51] Real Madrid, Milan. Motherfucker, you had 27 years
[25:55] of super teams. I hope you win at least five
[25:57] league titles. But the fact that he did it
[25:59] everywhere. Yeah, he still ended up winning,
[26:01] still did it. That's why we did a Angelotti
[26:04] starting a Angelotti. Look, look at the players he's
[26:06] coached. Obviously some of the best ever.
[26:09] Padma, Padma, Padma, everything. Padma, Padma.
[26:13] Yashi had bowlers. Taram, did he?
[26:15] Did he win anything with Padma? UEFA Cup I'm pretty sure you you
[26:19] want. Pretty crazy, Ash.
[26:21] Trophy. No, that's how that UEFA Cup is
[26:23] Europe league. With Padma point.
[26:25] Proven. Oh, by the way, we forgot to
[26:27] talk of the beginning. I just found this funny.
[26:29] So where we record, there's the entrance and Millie was Millie
[26:33] was here first. Obviously he opens the door for
[26:37] Varvar to go in and Varvar slips and almost falls on his ass.
[26:41] So there's a there's a, there's a patch of ice.
[26:44] I'm the next to come in. Oh, he went.
[26:46] Hollow went. Flying I'm the next to come in
[26:48] Millie opens the door. I I almost tore like both my
[26:51] Acls. Bro and that firms firms coming
[26:53] down I open the door, I say watch.
[26:54] I watch like just watch. Watch for what?
[26:56] He literally put his foot there and I don't.
[27:00] Fall, though, we get. Three for 3/3 for three.
[27:02] The ice 1/3. 3. I fell right on my ass.
[27:05] That's crazy on that one. That was a rough one by myself.
[27:08] That's a red car that's sent ice patch sent off.
[27:11] Yeah, that's a printer. Automatic red car Malota leak.
[27:14] Malota leak. Malota leak.
[27:15] But anyway, let's get back to it.
[27:17] Moving on, some reports say that Neymar to back to Barcelona this
[27:22] summer is a big possibility. What do we think about?
[27:24] Is this possible? Is this good?
[27:26] Bad. This guy's tearing the Brazilian
[27:28] league apart. That would take him instantly at
[27:30] Barcelona. Brazilian league brother.
[27:32] You're telling me I could see a Neymar, Raffina and La Mina
[27:35] mount front three? I'm taking that bro.
[27:37] He's got all the confidence in the world right now at Santos,
[27:39] but brother, can he translate that to Europe again?
[27:42] I don't know, it's a little tough.
[27:43] I wouldn't say this is a good move for Barcelona.
[27:46] After having almost a career injury, ending injury, why bring
[27:51] him back to Barcelona? A good project that's on the way
[27:53] up. It's just it's unnecessary.
[27:54] It's only for people like firms that want to see Yamala Rafina.
[27:57] And when, when you have Neymar that is available, you take him
[28:01] no matter what. OK, so then you end up getting
[28:02] two games like Al Hilal did and congratulations.
[28:05] And you sold the amount of kids that pays his wages and then you
[28:08] call it a day. Lift up bro.
[28:10] Low key, you get the past, present and the future of
[28:13] Barcelona on that team. The past being Neymar.
[28:16] Neymar President, President. Future is better than the
[28:21] present. Future is the future is better
[28:23] than the past and present. No, what I think is.
[28:27] Better than your mouth. Season where bro, you take out
[28:29] the Rafina or your mouth this season?
[28:31] Barcelona, anyway. I just, I just don't see why you
[28:33] would bring him back. He already had such a good stint
[28:36] at Barcelona. There's no need to rewrite his
[28:39] what? If he what if he comes on on not
[28:41] crazy wages like Santos right now, he's not on high wages,
[28:44] Yeah. Yeah, but they sold part of the
[28:46] club to him. OK, Santos, they sold her soul.
[28:49] OK, So what if he joined for 200 KA week?
[28:51] OK, things that are happening that that's.
[28:53] Why would it not happen? Because Neymar is a degenerate
[28:55] gambler. You know him.
[28:57] Add that. Add that to the factual
[28:59] information. Is is is Drake a degenerate
[29:01] gambler because he's sponsored by stake?
[29:03] But me and you know damn well that he's doing that for the
[29:07] stake. Sponsor Yeah.
[29:08] So Neymar for Poker Stars is not the same thing.
[29:11] No, because Neymar is a degenerate gambler.
[29:13] OK. I mean I I.
[29:15] Hatred is spewing through Neymar is not is not joining for 200 KA
[29:19] week. Not have to take it that crazy,
[29:21] huh? He's doing it for Santos, not a
[29:24] week. He's doing it for a month. 100
[29:25] KA month apparently. They gave him part of the club.
[29:28] I don't know. Bro part of the club is worth
[29:31] 100 KA month. That's the last respect.
[29:34] And you're acting like Neymar's old.
[29:36] Yeah, he is. He's 3132 but his body is a 40
[29:39] year old. His body's wrecked.
[29:40] I you won't get top minutes. From him, you're telling me even
[29:43] like 20 minutes off the bench you wouldn't do it.
[29:45] But why? But The thing is that you don't
[29:47] need top minutes from him because Barcelona have a player
[29:49] like Daniomo who can rotate with him.
[29:52] Yeah, so you only use him for the games you actually really
[29:55] need him? But then is it, is it just a
[29:56] vanity project just to say you brought Neymar back, or is it
[29:59] like actually to develop? Neymar.
[30:01] Neymar is better than he's still a better than everyone.
[30:06] He's still a this is better than everyone that you're that didn't
[30:12] need to be said, bro, what the fuck?
[30:15] He's guaranteed and you guys might just guarantee the top 20
[30:19] player in the world still. OK, OK, lift up.
[30:22] Oh, so you agree with me? I agree with you.
[30:23] Not a Vinny player in the world. You said he's better than Vinny,
[30:27] which is crazy. We're still a top 20 player in
[30:30] the world and if that's available for free, you do it.
[30:33] Based on what? I don't know.
[30:35] Bro the only logic, the only logic I'll take because I know
[30:37] firms uses the backup it's Neymar but.
[30:41] What the fuck? No, you didn't mean bro.
[30:43] You've never. You just say it's Neymar.
[30:44] Bro, what do you want me to say? All you need to do is watch him
[30:47] and you know he's better than everyone else when the.
[30:49] Last time you watched him play competent top level football is.
[30:52] The baller still a top ten player and yes, because the.
[30:54] Baller does a week in, week out. Neymar doesn't do a week in,
[30:57] week out, he's just injured. So he doesn't do it.
[30:59] We can we count. I mean also.
[31:01] Like a Luke Shaw literally just scored a free kick for Santos.
[31:03] But you're forgetting. You're forgetting ability is not
[31:06] something that you lose. Like you lose maybe pace, you
[31:08] lose physicality, but ability. Neymar is still one of the most
[31:11] technical players in the world. Bro the same way like what do
[31:14] you mean no? No, no, You're telling me
[31:15] Messi's gonna fall off. I'm.
[31:16] Saying I'm I, I he is, he has the ability.
[31:19] What a Messi, but just as a price.
[31:20] He will not fall off technically.
[31:22] He has fallen off technically. No, he hasn't.
[31:24] But. Did he watched the Cup by
[31:25] America last summer? Yes, the World Cup 2.
[31:27] And he was. America's like six games, bro.
[31:30] He he still had a good six games.
[31:32] If you're an average player, that's still a good six.
[31:34] Games. OK, we're talking about Messi.
[31:36] He did not have a good six games.
[31:37] OK, Leon, breaking news. Lionel Messi is not prime Lionel
[31:40] Messi anymore. Sure.
[31:41] You're not getting prime Neymar. You're not.
[31:43] Saying that players don't fall off.
[31:44] No, they don't. They know he's the ability wise.
[31:47] Neymar fell off from being the best player in the world to 20th
[31:50] in the world. Was never the best player in the
[31:51] world to. I mean, it was 40th.
[31:53] I don't know even 40th. If it's for free, you get the
[31:57] 40th best player in the world. Just just in the timeline for
[32:00] Barcelona right now, like you're looking at that CL like they
[32:04] they have an opportunity to go deep in a lot of competitions
[32:06] and they're first in La Liga right now.
[32:08] You're going to bring in a Neymar, who although would be
[32:10] great for marketing and whatever and clout.
[32:12] Like now there's an expectation, OK, And Neymar has to play.
[32:16] We're paying him this amount. It's it, it's a lot of added
[32:19] baggage with a player that is not going to develop, he's not
[32:23] going to improve. Valid excuse.
[32:25] I agree and it's not and it's not worth it when Barsa is doing
[32:28] very well, right? Now, but but for me, Neymar is
[32:31] not better than what they have is not a valid excuse because
[32:35] he's better than what they have. He's not OK.
[32:38] I'll I will accept you saying he's Berfina's better and
[32:41] Yamal's better, but Danny Omo is can't lace Neymar's.
[32:44] Blue, I agree. I agree he can't.
[32:46] But Millie pointed out good downsides.
[32:49] And we if you weigh out the pros and the cons, I don't think it.
[32:52] Depends the mentality that Neymar comes in with with
[32:54] that's. What?
[32:55] Yeah, it's more how they handle it, like monetarily if how much
[32:58] they're going to be paying him because yeah, he brings a lot of
[33:01] baggage, but in the end you're getting Neymar.
[33:03] And bro, they're opening the new camp, new signing Neymar like.
[33:08] Like is getting Neymar going to stop you from getting a a
[33:11] striker to replace Leymandowski in the future?
[33:13] Probably. Then you consider your options.
[33:15] Do you need a striker or a? Neymar OK, but Lowen and look,
[33:17] I'm I'm all for replacing Lewandowski, but this is from a
[33:20] perspective of a, of a, let's say a.
[33:23] Neutral. A neutral Lewandowski's the
[33:26] Pichichi Award winner right now. Go, That's my underrated striker
[33:31] right there. But right now he scored, I think
[33:33] he's on 23 goals or something. So like, I don't know if you're
[33:37] going to experience a sharp decline, but I don't know if
[33:39] that investment needs to be made right now.
[33:42] Yeah, it make it now or or when it falls off, like it all
[33:45] crumbles like it. I think thinking about the
[33:48] future, like the Real thinks about their future.
[33:51] They already have strikers coming in the pipeline.
[33:54] Like after Benzema, it was a smooth transition and then
[33:58] Andrick can now be Andrick can now be the heir to the throne in
[34:01] five years. Like Barcelona doesn't have that
[34:04] future with Lewandowski. If he falls off and it's and
[34:06] it's a steep fall off, there's nothing.
[34:08] Yeah, but it's just nothing. They they don't create strikers,
[34:10] but the entire team is La Marcia.
[34:12] Just for you, Barcelona, 30 million Hoyland, you can have
[34:15] them. There we go.
[34:16] There's your future rejected. Sent in the.
[34:18] Check that one off the list. We got the striker of the
[34:20] future. I, I just, I just see it as like
[34:23] you're you either sign him now and hope for like a decent two
[34:27] years, but don't expect him to come in and be better than what
[34:31] he is right now. That's he.
[34:32] He will not be better than what he is right now.
[34:35] What do you mean? Yeah.
[34:36] What? What does?
[34:36] What does that mean? The level that he's playing at
[34:38] right now at Santos, do not expect him to be playing at an
[34:42] at a higher elite level consistently at Barcelona at a
[34:46] in a top five year. Point.
[34:47] What the fuck is being said? Right now I don't.
[34:49] I think I'm I. Don't like your fan?
[34:51] Well, you're saying that? He will improve, he will not
[34:53] improve as a player. Not he's 32 or 33.
[34:56] I'm not expecting him to improve.
[34:57] You're not buying him to improve him.
[34:59] And I know, but you're putting an investment in that could be
[35:02] towards a player that improves over five years, Barsa.
[35:06] Barsa, if they go back to thinking about the now, you will
[35:09] end up in a position where you are overpaying for a player that
[35:12] is too old to play at the level. That you want.
[35:15] But then, but then let's say, let's say you end up always
[35:17] worrying about all the future. I'm not going to buy a league
[35:21] player now that's going to just be good for a little bit.
[35:23] You end up like Arsenal, who's always no, but Arsenal are never
[35:28] good enough. They're they're good, but
[35:30] they're never good enough to beat that first place because
[35:32] not there. They're not willing to take
[35:33] those financial risks like a $80 million striker to just win now.
[35:38] I know, but Neymar's not a win now player.
[35:40] Neymar's a win now player. Not for Barcelona that are
[35:43] currently right now, like winning like they're they're
[35:47] like, yeah. You add the cherry on top.
[35:49] You're telling me in training Fermi, Lopez isn't looking up to
[35:52] the stars after seeing Neymar play with him?
[35:54] When Barcelona had Messi and Ronaldo and name and Neymar,
[35:58] they weren't thinking, you know, we don't need to bring Suarez
[36:01] in. But that's different.
[36:02] We got we don't need Suarez. But Suarez was in the prime of
[36:04] his career at Liverpool, like you're bringing on top, but his
[36:07] Neymar in the prime of his career right now, No, he's not
[36:09] playing in a top five league. That's the that's the most
[36:12] Neymar supporter answer is just always it's Neymar.
[36:14] He hasn't played elite football in in oh in three or four years.
[36:19] Isn't him a good player? Yes bro.
[36:22] You don't your. Club's seen him play any role
[36:24] his high level football. It's crazy for him to be saying
[36:26] this because his club's entire transfer strategy is to get 34
[36:29] year olds who haven't played top level football in three years.
[36:31] It's. Not true.
[36:33] Mikitarian fucking. He came from Manchester United
[36:36] like no one. Didn't he Roma?
[36:38] No, Roma, sorry. Sorry, Roma.
[36:39] And Roma. He was finished.
[36:41] Alexis Sanchez. He was making CL Simi, he was
[36:43] he, he, he was making Champions League with Roma brother it's.
[36:46] Like I put it out, Roma. But it's two different things.
[36:48] It's two different things. This is a player that left
[36:50] Europe already and now is in Brazil.
[36:53] We've seen. Ebra come back to Europe and
[36:55] ball out and win the. League so keep looking at.
[36:57] But he lasted a year and a half. Don't look at the.
[36:59] Outfit a year, but. Neymar is an exception.
[37:02] Neymar is we're. Not talking about Mikatarian,
[37:04] we're talking about Neymar. Pro injury, I know, but he
[37:06] brought up Mikatarian, huh? He he brought up he.
[37:08] Brought up. He did it first.
[37:10] He did it first. Bro if you can guarantee me a
[37:12] healthy Neymar for and I can get 30 minutes out of him every game
[37:15] for 100. 30 minutes bro what the fuck is he?
[37:18] No, but like listen to 30 minutes you.
[37:20] Take him. No, he's.
[37:21] Not. Do you actually think that he
[37:23] will be able to start over 20 games in a La Liga season?
[37:27] Yeah, start. Playing.
[37:29] He played 50. If they rotate properly, I'm
[37:31] trying to see how much he plays. Right now I'm gonna see how much
[37:33] he plays. Everyone rates who's my belly?
[37:35] Gonna put and unfortunately like for I know, I know Braziliano
[37:39] the league, the serial league in Brazil, like we we like to
[37:43] there's a nostalgia to it, but it's not at the level of.
[37:46] He plays 70 to 90 minutes a game in Brazil, Yeah.
[37:49] Check his bro, the guy probably has 2 kilometers.
[37:52] OK but that's Messi doesn't run a high amount either bro in his
[37:55] prime. I know, but everyone in
[37:57] Barcelona currently does. Can you check how many games
[37:58] Uzman Damela has played in the past like five years?
[38:02] But Uzman Damela right now is is scoring in the top five league
[38:05] and and Neymar performing in the what?
[38:06] Did you call this win the medal last season?
[38:07] Overrated. The season before overrated.
[38:09] Yeah, try to play more than 20 games at Barcelona.
[38:12] Impossible. But now that he's healthy, he's
[38:14] balling out. Good for him.
[38:15] OK, so so Neymar. But you could see an upside with
[38:18] them belly because that that lack of performance happened
[38:20] when he was 232425 or whatever. No lack of play time 'cause he
[38:24] was injured. Bro this.
[38:25] Gimmick happened, so Neymar. Will never come back to European
[38:28] football. OK, that's wrong.
[38:30] I think he definitely wants to come back to European football.
[38:33] 3032 or 31? Bro he's gonna play the next
[38:36] World Cup like oh, he's AU 34. His.
[38:39] Injuries. His injuries aren't aren't.
[38:44] I agree, but they can be managed in my personal opinion.
[38:48] So you're gonna pay this guy, you're gonna pay this guy 200 KA
[38:50] week to manage it makes. 200 KA week in jersey sales for the
[38:53] club it's. That's why that's the only
[38:54] argument I respect that if you can, if you can like actually
[38:57] come to me with a financial like chart saying like we're gonna
[39:01] break even regardless if he plays or not.
[39:03] Bro, it's imagine it's the camp news inaugural season and you
[39:06] have Neymar there, you have your model there, you have Ruffina
[39:09] there. Bro, it's a very easy selling
[39:10] point for a ticket. I'm gonna.
[39:12] Be clued to watching every Barcelona.
[39:13] I'm gonna be there. How are you gonna sell those VIP
[39:15] tickets in those, those boxes to presidential suites?
[39:18] And they're already sold new. They're already.
[39:20] Yeah, they're sold. Yeah.
[39:21] Sold out. Yeah.
[39:21] FFP, we broke even. And let's say they have, I don't
[39:24] know, do Neymar, do Barcelona have a new kit deal coming up
[39:28] soon, potentially? With Nike.
[39:30] I don't know, but that helps a lot in negotiations.
[39:33] If you have Neymar there it helps a lot.
[39:37] It's a risk. I've I, I don't think, I think
[39:39] there's still risk to having Neymar.
[39:41] But I mean, if you're saying financially they could do it,
[39:44] then do it. Bro we'll see.
[39:44] I hope it happens so that we can get a definitive answer on.
[39:47] I agree. I agree.
[39:47] Would it be able to move or not? And then the.
[39:49] Oracle and then the Oracle will be moving, Yeah, Streets and
[39:52] Streets and team are back in Europe.
[39:54] And form it. Anyway, so internship.
[39:58] Short story Short story Listen, boys, let's.
[40:01] Finished with La Liga there, but now we're into we're into Setia
[40:05] now where this was a title, title race.
[40:09] I wouldn't say a decider, but it was.
[40:11] It was a very big match with. Monopoly Who wants to win less?
[40:14] This is a who wants to win Leslie like season.
[40:17] It's reminding me of that Milan school that yes.
[40:19] Who wants where everyone was losing and dropping losing and
[40:22] they were dropping below each other?
[40:23] I mean, it's a, it's a two top teams going head to head.
[40:26] Oh but you're not gonna bro. I think Napoli have not any.
[40:29] Their last win was versus Juventus 4 five games ago.
[40:32] Napoli haven't won a game in Napoli haven't won a game in
[40:35] five in five City High matches. And there's still one point
[40:38] behind you. Well, yeah, they had a very good
[40:40] start to see at one point they were winning every game.
[40:42] One nothing, right? Which is what we do.
[40:44] Napoli last five games Draw, loss draw, draw, draw.
[40:47] Enter last five games Win, loss, win, loss.
[40:51] Atlanta draw, win, draw, win, draw.
[40:53] These are title contenders and you go to Juventus.
[40:55] Win, win, win, win. Loss I'm title.
[40:58] I keep the draws there. There's no draw PSV, sorry.
[41:01] Where to draw? There's an elder.
[41:04] Yeah, Napoli. But yeah, just that game.
[41:06] Unfortunately, if you were an Interfan watching that game, you
[41:08] wanted to rip your hair out. Was not the second-half that I
[41:11] was hoping for. We just decided 1.
[41:14] Nothing was enough for us and. It was mostly the second-half.
[41:16] Second-half was just abysmal. We did not create anything.
[41:20] We did not, no, no counters, not, absolutely not.
[41:23] We just hoof the ball as soon as you got it.
[41:25] Just booted up and hope for the best.
[41:26] You were telling me something about the midfield.
[41:28] Like it. It's not the same midfield of
[41:30] like last year. I this midfield digressed the
[41:33] the midfield last year was our core strength.
[41:35] Yeah, my opinion. And I I find in this game, it
[41:37] was probably the worst part in your your entire.
[41:39] I think, I think like, I think when Zelinsky came on, he was
[41:41] good. But like Mikatarians, I could
[41:43] just tell this team is gassed. Like completely gassed like, but
[41:47] I think he's not rotating. Enough you have older.
[41:49] I think there's a rotation, I think there's a good.
[41:50] He's not rotating. Well, you rotate what you need,
[41:53] like what you can do. Like, unfortunately, the
[41:55] strikers, you can rotate them as much as you want.
[41:56] If they're not scoring, they're not scoring.
[41:58] Like there's nothing you could do with.
[41:59] Altovich scored a fucking world. Guy scored a banger which is
[42:02] he's our third choice as a striker now, like.
[42:03] Yeah, but I'm saying I'm saying more in the midfield, like in
[42:06] the midfield it's been migitarian.
[42:08] Yeah, but that's why. But midfield I would, I would
[42:10] hope, I was hoping that Flattisia Nastani would have a a
[42:14] breaking out season where you could trust them a bit more in
[42:16] games. You can't trust them as soon as
[42:19] Fratez. Came on.
[42:19] I'll give you some Oracle shit right here, OK?
[42:22] Before the season I could have told you Fratezi and whoever the
[42:24] fuck Aslani I know, but weren't breaking out.
[42:27] OK, the Oracle. Could have told you, but you
[42:28] didn't tell us that. Oh, I you could ask me.
[42:31] That was a season. I'm not going to give you free
[42:33] advice. Hats off if.
[42:34] You want come to the Oracle for advice, talk to.
[42:36] Conte. Bro hats off to Conte.
[42:38] This is not a hot soft. Bro held, held off, held off
[42:41] this powerhouse. Held off I I don't know about
[42:45] held off. Like a super team bro.
[42:46] Held off is a bit of a stretch bro.
[42:48] That second-half. He limited shoot, you got treble
[42:50] after and deserved to get a pen. It would have been 2/1.
[42:53] OK. But there was missed calls on
[42:55] both sides, which I will say. But one of them was a clear
[42:57] handball and the other one was a slight tackle on. 2 of it, the
[43:00] other one was Lubotka who got mad at the match, clearly got
[43:03] the ball against Threb. Yeah, so listen, at the end of
[43:06] the day. I know what's happening here.
[43:10] It ended up being A11 match I think it was.
[43:12] Deserve it for nopoly 11. They could have even gotten a
[43:14] second one in my opinion. Yeah potentially if they want.
[43:17] I would have said they deserved it.
[43:18] We need to have a conversation about Federico de Marco.
[43:20] Nice freaky goal. As I said, best stuff from the
[43:22] world. Honestly the the the placement
[43:26] of that meta didn't even move, but the placement of that good
[43:29] goal. Like the old.
[43:30] Goalkeeper in the world saving. No, I know, I know, but.
[43:33] Oh no, not probably season. This season, like I, I find he's
[43:35] been overrated. Napoli fans will tell you that.
[43:38] What? Fuck you producer is laughing
[43:41] about your mind the camera at the worst joke of all time too.
[43:45] This guy just said on that's an Instagram comment section.
[43:49] Ask fucking comment and you laughed at that garbage.
[43:53] She just raised me to you. He didn't even talk.
[43:57] He's not even talking. By someone that's not even on
[43:59] camera. Got ragevated by a laugh.
[44:01] But you got ragevated by people actually think he doesn't exist
[44:04] one. 0. Got ragevated by imaginary
[44:06] friend. But yeah, but I think this, this
[44:10] match was indicative of where the teams are right now.
[44:12] Like I think Inter is just we did not address what we needed
[44:15] in January. We need another striker, didn't
[44:16] happen, at least another midfielder, a defender, didn't
[44:19] happen. So now I feel like we're we're
[44:22] gassed and this is the result. But overall study our table.
[44:25] But then But then. You got a Champions League run.
[44:27] This exactly. I know so.
[44:28] So I think, I think you're gassed.
[44:29] I honestly think probably, Anzagi says at halftime, saying,
[44:32] listen, 45 minutes, just defend with your lives and that that's
[44:35] it. Do not, do not do more than what
[44:37] you need. From an outsider perspective,
[44:38] yeah, I don't think that that's a valid excuse.
[44:41] And I agree. With these performances, because
[44:43] every other team has basically not Natalie, I'm not saying
[44:46] Natalie, but let's say you'd lose in CL, let's say to
[44:50] Athletico. You're not, you can't play
[44:51] Athletico. But let's say you do get
[44:53] Athletico and you lose Athletico.
[44:55] You're getting there. They're playing three games a
[44:57] week also. Yeah, I agree, but I just think
[44:59] the way the article. Well, they no, no, he's just
[45:01] saying that you're playing versus someone that also plays
[45:04] the same month. Ago Right now there's only 16
[45:06] teams, but you didn't play at a top level that play three games
[45:08] you. Weren't involved in the playoff
[45:09] either so if you guys are tired. Now, which teams are still in
[45:12] Europe? In in in Italy.
[45:14] Lazio, I think. So if you play Lazio, if you
[45:17] play Lazio, Roma. But but no one's playing Cope
[45:20] Italia like you know what I mean?
[45:21] Like only Milan's playing Cope Italia.
[45:23] So that's their that's their second game.
[45:24] But that game's not happened from.
[45:25] CL right. But but again, not for.
[45:28] You by fans, apparently. There was a stop that.
[45:30] Was playing Inters playing Milan.
[45:31] Yeah. But that's what I'm saying.
[45:32] Like those are those are. Milan are not in CL anymore so
[45:35] they're less games. Yeah, there was a graph that I
[45:36] saw that Napoli and Atlanta, they're not in any other
[45:40] competition, so in Atlanta. Was in CL and.
[45:43] I know, but what I'm saying is they have A7 game stretch.
[45:46] Even Napoli and Atlanta have A7 game stretch where Inters
[45:49] playing 13 games or 14 games or something like we're playing
[45:52] nearly double the amount of games that they are and the
[45:54] players that we're expecting to perform are not performing.
[45:57] So all and Zaggy has no choice but to say, listen, we need
[46:00] results now. You have to play your best guys
[46:02] and these best guy, these guys are playing every three days.
[46:05] OK. So it's guys I'm not.
[46:07] Now, as if you want to be the, let's say Juventus a decade ago,
[46:13] they weren't using the excuse of we have, we're playing every
[46:15] single day. Basically, if you want to be the
[46:18] de facto best team in your country, these are the stuff
[46:20] that comes along with it. I.
[46:22] Agree, but that's a management thing where they have to say
[46:24] okay this team isn't good enough for three games like this team.
[46:27] This team, unfortunately this midfield, like if, if you wanna
[46:30] take off Barrella, you're putting on a flat test, you
[46:32] wanna take off Charlie, you're putting on Aslani, you're
[46:34] putting on like Zielinski's the only player off our bench in the
[46:37] midfield that I'd say who actually deserves a starting
[46:39] spot. Everyone else like.
[46:41] It's a huge. Quality drop off The drop off is
[46:43] a lot more than I thought it was gonna be.
[46:44] But then you guys sign players in the summer like Ted Emmy.
[46:47] Who? Who has has disappointedly.
[46:50] Allergic to the net? Yeah, has disappointed heavily.
[46:52] Who's I thought someone would come and be more reliable but
[46:55] didn't happen. But what's the what's the
[46:56] reasoning of getting like a suchich who can't even play now?
[46:59] But listen, I don't know the the reasoning.
[47:02] It's just they, they saw an opportunity of a good player for
[47:04] the future and they did it. But I don't think we need to go
[47:07] think too much in the future, like think maybe 2-3 years in
[47:10] the future, not five years in the future.
[47:12] Yeah, because player signings like soup, kitsch and Palacios
[47:16] that you guys. Find yeah, those those are
[47:17] players that aren't going to be starting next year.
[47:20] It might be they're not going to be playing.
[47:21] And we need to speak about Bastoni getting subbed off late
[47:24] in games. And you?
[47:24] Guys, we can see. Every time.
[47:26] Yeah, there's actually a crazy stuff about that, but I.
[47:28] Think they've subbed them off 6 times and then six times in a
[47:30] row they. That was crazy when I saw that
[47:32] and it's it's like late winners towards like 87th minute.
[47:35] He's in Tegra. I don't I don't know why we
[47:37] don't learn our lesson with that, but.
[47:39] But why is Bastoni subbing off and all like a cherubby?
[47:42] I, I don't know honestly, but I tried.
[47:44] He does get subbed off, but it's just because he got subbed off
[47:46] because DeMarco went down injured.
[47:48] So we had no wing backs. We have no wing backs.
[47:51] Only Dumfries is our wing back. Well, there was a Pavard coming
[47:53] in and the. Wing A442.
[47:56] But yeah, where's Zaluski? Zaluski.
[48:00] So yeah, exactly. He's injured as well.
[48:03] So it's it's I'm not gonna panic.
[48:05] I'm not gonna press the panic button.
[48:07] I'll press the panic button if we it's in the room.
[48:08] Lose against Faye Inord. It's in the against big teams.
[48:11] It's in the room. I If we I think we have a good
[48:13] squad, this is a squad that should win silverware.
[48:16] If we don't it, it comes down to the management not predicting
[48:20] that this team was gonna be gassed at this point.
[48:22] Definitely have a question. Yeah, going into the season,
[48:25] Yeah, very beginning, yeah. And if I would tell you I was
[48:29] gonna ask the exact same question, if your team would
[48:32] finish the season with without winning any sort of silverware,
[48:35] yeah. Would you?
[48:36] Would you? No, I wouldn't.
[48:38] I wouldn't, I wouldn't. I wouldn't talk.
[48:41] That art situation. I wouldn't be like that.
[48:43] I say was it a failure of a season?
[48:45] Yeah, I would say it's a failure of.
[48:46] That's that's a fairpoint. That's because because like,
[48:48] you're not delusional. Because.
[48:49] If you leave with even just a cup of Italia, would you say
[48:52] it's a failure of a? Season, I'd say we fell short of
[48:54] expectations. It also depends on where we go
[48:55] and like. Got to fall.
[48:57] We got a politician here, this guy just.
[48:58] Sending him out of the yeah, out of the station.
[49:03] But it's not it's not like an absolute failure revamp
[49:06] everything. It was just wow.
[49:08] This team somewhat disappointed only a cope Italia but this team
[49:11] is at the level of winning a scooter to a cope Italia like or
[49:14] something like that or going deep in champions.
[49:15] League. So let us determine whether I
[49:16] could be a good effective leader, effective leader or not.
[49:19] It will. Be hard to do, yeah, but until I
[49:22] am. Until I am.
[49:23] Yeah, but yeah, unfortunately enter dropping points here.
[49:26] But Atlanta also drop points too, so I've just crazy it up.
[49:30] All that point towards Juventus, which is a team that is built
[49:34] for a full season, because I don't know why we have so much
[49:36] depth in every. Nurse L Null Cup of Italia.
[49:39] Dumped out of them, Dumped out of the Cup of Italia by them.
[49:41] Hanging. On to the spot by a string.
[49:43] Yes, not by string. If we win, we have a game of
[49:47] hand. If we win tomorrow versus we
[49:49] playing. I think you famously I don't
[49:51] count games in hand, but it's okay.
[49:53] No, I'm seeing a hypothetical if we win versus alas Verona, which
[49:57] because I'm speaking right now because I'm saying this, most
[50:00] likely we will lose tomorrow or a drop most likely.
[50:02] But in the odd case that we do win, we will be 6 points off of
[50:06] Inter for the lead of Serie and. What that means then?
[50:08] However, we don't play Napoli or Inter.
[50:10] However, we are not as good as idiot as Napoli.
[50:14] I would say we are. I would say we're in a better
[50:16] spot. We're in a better spot right
[50:18] now. Why?
[50:18] No win really changes so. So are you, are you joining the
[50:22] ultras who are saying Tiago, Tiago Mata beta de merda or are
[50:25] you like on the outside? No ultras bro.
[50:27] I don't agree with the ultras because the ultras cannot see
[50:29] more than 5 feet in front of them, but all they see is
[50:32] results. Right now they see.
[50:33] Right now I would not even, I would not sack Thiago Mota or
[50:36] even think about sacking Thiago Mota.
[50:38] What's the? Point.
[50:39] I personally wouldn't. I like it.
[50:41] In his first season. Was she?
[50:42] I don't think your second thing you sack him, but I think you
[50:45] you do try to see if there's an optimal.
[50:47] There's not your eyeballs, bro. And you watch the game.
[50:50] What? This is good football.
[50:51] What managers? I don't know that are.
[50:52] Realistically, like on the market for Juventus?
[50:56] Gaspedini's gone big event is fun.
[50:58] I would rather Thiago Mota than Gaspedini.
[51:00] See Done Zidan is Zidan. If he would have been open to
[51:04] this, he would have done it already.
[51:06] I don't think so. I don't know, it depends what
[51:09] you think Reports. Recent reports that whispered.
[51:11] I haven't seen a recent report. In I should have sent it bro.
[51:14] I should have sent. I knew you guys wouldn't.
[51:15] I don't know. I think, I think tell Gamonta
[51:17] like if you fire him, it's like you just scrapped the year of
[51:21] progress. In my opinion of.
[51:23] Players, yeah, of ideology and thought well, these.
[51:25] Players, honestly, you can, you could play them in a lot of
[51:27] different systems, but Thiago Mota's getting feel, getting a
[51:30] feel for the system. I don't I would not sack him.
[51:32] I would even put it in the panic button for him in the room.
[51:34] Yes, I think, I think you, you guys just obviously need to do
[51:37] better in knockout comps. And in right investments, 'cause
[51:41] this summer right now I don't think is looking the summer that
[51:44] you guys just had, I don't think is looking like a good
[51:47] investment wise summer for Juventus.
[51:49] The how much do you guys spend on coupe miners?
[51:51] 6060. 60 million. I don't think right now that's
[51:54] looking like a good transfer. No, you can't say it's a badge.
[51:58] I won't say, yeah, bad transfer, but it's not looking like a good
[52:00] transfer. It's not.
[52:01] Looking like a 60. He's not looking like.
[52:02] He's yeah, It's not looking like a home run.
[52:04] Douglas Louise is not looking like a 52,000,000, but the.
[52:06] Thing with Douglas Louise is they're still like for some
[52:08] reason there's a there's a feeling around Douglas Louise
[52:10] that like Prem team still know that if he goes back to the.
[52:12] Prem team yes, but but right now he doesn't look like a 50
[52:15] million I. Know, I know.
[52:17] Who else did you guys sign this summer?
[52:18] Juan cabal like Juan. Cabal looked good, but then.
[52:22] But I mean that was also. But then there's also all the
[52:24] loans like Kolam, Juan Ichiko, Contessa, a lot.
[52:26] Of the players that brought in are on loan.
[52:28] But contessao good and it's. Yeah, but you need to buy them.
[52:31] It's. Not finalized.
[52:32] Theoretically, it's not finalized.
[52:33] Is it an option or obligation? No, it's, it's they loan them
[52:36] for like 8 million, but then there's like a gentleman
[52:38] agreement to revisit the transfer in the summer.
[52:40] They they're, they're negotiating.
[52:42] Yeah, right now his. Agent is.
[52:43] I think his agent is but. Theoretically it's it's I don't
[52:47] know what it think his moment is, but theoretically if you
[52:49] guys don't agree, a price for. Tremendous too, yeah.
[52:52] If you don't agree with with a price with Porto, even though I
[52:56] don't think that would happen, I thought they.
[52:57] Agreed on it. That's what I last report I saw
[52:59] they agreed on a number that's waiting for the loan term 10.
[53:02] Regardless, you're a center back.
[53:07] Pavlovich. Kalulu, Kalulu 14 mil.
[53:10] That's good. That's that's all right.
[53:12] I don't think I don't think that's a long term starter for
[53:14] you though. No, but that's if that's could
[53:16] be a depth option. Yeah, Bremer comes back, but
[53:19] then, OK, you sign Kalulu for 14,000,000.
[53:22] Now what happens to let's say, a Lloyd Kelly, because I think
[53:25] Kalulu, Lloyd Kelly kind of share the same role within
[53:28] Lloyd? Kelly should be depth.
[53:29] But you just sign them with an obligation to buy.
[53:32] Yeah, that's fine. 13 million for a player that's gonna be
[53:34] depth is that's our standard. But Kalulu is planned to be
[53:37] depth, so you're going to have two depth players that play the
[53:39] same. These are these.
[53:40] Are fullbacks as well. Kalulu plays fullback.
[53:43] I agree Lloyd Kelly can play fullback as well.
[53:45] But like bro, to have a guy that can play these guys should not
[53:48] be playing center back. These one more.
[53:49] Versatile maybe should be playing center back, but still.
[53:51] Do you think he's a better fullback or center back?
[53:53] Fullback. He's too short.
[53:54] Yeah, clues not short. 5 foot he's a 580.
[53:59] He's 40. He's guy.
[54:01] Just called him a Midget. He's a Midget.
[54:03] No, he's not. I think he looks like a Midget
[54:05] on the field then yeah, because he doesn't win headers.
[54:07] He. Does he's 6 foot?
[54:09] I'm telling you he's 6 foot or 511 or 6 foot.
[54:11] Bro Kulu is not a short guy, he's 6 foot.
[54:14] Yeah, he's 6 foot. He looks short, doesn't win.
[54:17] Header center back 6 foot short like.
[54:19] Just well go maybe because Gotti is also 6 foot 4 so.
[54:22] Gotti's 6 foot four, yeah. I think it's because most
[54:24] strikers nowadays that you're coming up against are not
[54:28] shorter than 6 foot. Yeah, so.
[54:30] Big guys. But also that you signed Alberto
[54:32] Costa, or who's Alberto Costa? Barely.
[54:34] He hasn't even played a minute. But that's that's like.
[54:37] Who are these guys? Peanuts.
[54:38] Who's that center back? Brazilian center back.
[54:40] You just Alberto Costa. Oh, that was him that that
[54:42] played like a couple, like a couple games, but then he got
[54:44] injured. He's Portuguese, I think.
[54:45] Oh, Portuguese. Who you?
[54:46] Talking, oh, Renato Vega. Oh, Renato Vega, that's alone.
[54:49] Portuguese is a lot good and. He's gone to Chelsea, but.
[54:52] He's alone. That's not a signing.
[54:53] Yeah, that's what you're. Saying and I think you guys paid
[54:55] a lot and now he got injured for a loan you.
[54:57] I paid a lot. I don't know, I think it was
[54:59] like 5 or 6 mil for the loan. I thought it was like 3 mil.
[55:01] That's what I saw. But anyway, he was fucking good.
[55:03] But he's. Injured he was, he was good for
[55:05] the game and. I don't know, Juventus was
[55:06] preparing for like being in Copa Italia, Champions League and
[55:09] Scudetto and players wise, but I mean.
[55:12] But the the issue comes summertime for Thiago Mota is
[55:15] that all these loans are going to end and I feel like your
[55:18] investments going to go into just replacing the players that
[55:20] you had on loan. He's gonna make that's, he's
[55:23] gonna make something permanent. Yeah, but then you end up at the
[55:25] same exact spot as this. You could argue that that's
[55:29] loans like. Loans like you added guys like
[55:31] Kefram Turam which which are very.
[55:34] Very. Yeah, that's a good signing.
[55:36] We had a lot of fucking signings last summer.
[55:38] Yes, but the new. Audio is technically.
[55:40] You're gonna go to as a good signing to starter.
[55:43] Or you added at least a little bit of foundation that you can
[55:45] build on next summer. Yes, cool miners can become AI.
[55:47] Think there's a player there like you guys?
[55:49] Watch cool miners. The guy was spectacular last
[55:51] season. Patalante.
[55:52] Yeah, he was good. It was just like.
[55:54] Looks this year like he's Atlanta Juice.
[55:56] Yeah, I don't know the voice. That's a bad juice.
[55:59] Huh. Yeah, he looks like a player
[56:00] that I've never seen before. But he looks like a player that
[56:03] knows he's out of position and he just doesn't know what.
[56:05] He's he's putting a lot more defensive work in, but the guy,
[56:07] the guy's an elite tackler for some reason and was playing as a
[56:10] Cam. We bought him but AG.
[56:11] Stuff bro he used to play center back or or CDM.
[56:15] I can if you telling me that I can kind of believe it because
[56:17] bro this guy puts in elite tackles.
[56:19] He he was ACDM back in the day for for AZ Altmar.
[56:24] Really. But I used to buy him on because
[56:26] I used to buy him on FM and he was ACDM.
[56:28] And then he went to yeah. And then he went to Atlanta and
[56:31] Gaspardini started playing him Cam and everyone was like, bro,
[56:34] this is not what he did on FM. So so.
[56:37] Maybe he used to be using a different type of role.
[56:39] I don't know. Listen, that's a lot of talk on
[56:41] that. But if you think, if you think
[56:42] UVA's a like, I think UVA could be in the mix.
[56:45] They just it needs to be catastrophic for the next for
[56:47] three teams. You guys are UVA fall off, Yeah.
[56:50] I don't see, I don't see the Inter near at all the strongest
[56:54] they've been this season. Yeah, but not.
[56:55] Really not a lot of games to play.
[56:57] Well, now we're gonna have fine word.
[56:58] Like Napoli and shit. No, but.
[57:00] If you want to use the excuse of Inter have a lot of games and we
[57:03] don't have a lot, then Napoli don't have a lot of games and
[57:06] Atlanta now was out of CL and Copa Italia, so they.
[57:09] But Napolis performance against Inter was very good.
[57:12] Like that's a deep. But I think Normans, but I think
[57:14] it's because Inter invited them in.
[57:16] It wasn't decent. That means they dropped the
[57:17] world glass performance. Not really saying there was
[57:20] decent. No, it was just we invited them
[57:23] in like they, we gave them room to play.
[57:25] They. Didn't play well.
[57:27] We made them. Play well, Well, yeah, we didn't
[57:30] press them. We didn't put any pressure on
[57:32] them at all. So it's like they they had the
[57:34] freedom to play with their type of football.
[57:36] So plus enter switching to a 442 didn't help either.
[57:39] So is what it is, but. Anyway, comfortable.
[57:42] Moving day. Moving down the story of the
[57:44] weekend. At the end of the day, listen,
[57:45] we could all we could all talk about those top teams, but
[57:48] there's one top team that. Unfortunately, the small teams
[57:50] instead. Yeah, the bottom table.
[57:51] Team, enjoy this year. It's the only year that you're
[57:53] gonna enjoy this. I I, I think it's harsh to say
[57:56] small club but listen when you're 9th place.
[57:59] Beat you a couple times this year bro.
[58:00] You did so a. Small club, that's what I said
[58:03] couple of times. Would you would you accept
[58:05] beating Inter in the Derby a couple times just to drop off
[58:09] the 9th place? I don't think that's a trade off
[58:11] that you accept. Why you think I'm saying I would
[58:13] want to do that? I'm just saying he's talking
[58:15] about small club. How about you beat that small
[58:17] club? Inter haven't beaten the top six
[58:19] side all season and that's and I've criticized them.
[58:21] In the top 10 club. The real step?
[58:23] Yes, haven't beaten the top six side all.
[58:25] Season real contender, by the way, top three, top three or
[58:27] four in bowel ranking. Real Madrid are third in La Liga
[58:29] and they're going to be, you're going to put them to see all
[58:31] favorites like, I don't get it, you.
[58:33] Beating a top 6. Yes, this season it's been
[58:35] terrible. Bro Latzio.
[58:38] We beat them 4. Zero or five Zero.
[58:40] But I'm talking about like Anomaly, Atlanta, Milan.
[58:43] In. Bologna you should.
[58:45] Smoke Atlanta, 4040. Who?
[58:49] Sorry, not we beat them. Sorry.
[58:50] Thank you. Not a top 6, sorry.
[58:52] That's what you said, but like the Milan, Milan and you've we
[58:55] haven't beat this season, so and Napoli we haven't.
[58:57] Yeah, but you're talking to the big.
[58:58] Top 6 So Milan, you've. OK, sorry top six, sorry there
[59:02] there's more teams that I don't have to stand in front of me
[59:04] right now, but if you're the. Top six, but we'd be last year
[59:07] we'd be no, but I get what you're I get for me because
[59:09] that's trouble versus the. Top clubs, we have not been good
[59:11] this season so. But Milan on the other hand, 9th
[59:15] place. Back-to-back 21 defeats versus
[59:18] Polonia. And who was the other bum you
[59:20] lost to? Lazio.
[59:21] Lazio. Respect Lazio.
[59:22] Respect Lazio. Bro enjoy that.
[59:24] Firms I don't want to because I don't want to make this a
[59:28] discussion about how shit AC Milan are because we know like
[59:31] as a Man United fan, like how many times can we say we like we
[59:34] know we're. I'm sure even the viewers, like
[59:36] even the casuals. Know but but I'm sure the
[59:39] listeners want to know. How did it get to this point,
[59:44] though? So where do I start, bro?
[59:46] Yeah, The downfall. Where do I start?
[59:48] Yeah. So like, I think this we could
[59:50] start. I don't know.
[59:50] Do you have to? Start firms Where firms?
[59:52] Where Do you think it's purchased too much?
[59:54] No, but don't. I think it starts to like sales
[59:57] of of Zlatan and Tiago Silva. I think that's when it oh.
[1:00:01] Fuck, you're going back? Yes, yes.
[1:00:02] But I no don't start that back. But we don't got.
[1:00:06] But what do you? Yeah.
[1:00:07] What is this especially Yes. This you can have it off camera
[1:00:10] like. So let's say, let's say.
[1:00:13] There's two air, there's two phases, there's that 10 year
[1:00:15] phase. And I would say when Maldini
[1:00:17] left, that's that's the second phase of things that went
[1:00:21] downhill. Say it to a guy that does not
[1:00:22] follow AC Milan. Like explain, explain the
[1:00:24] downfall to someone that's like where is AC Milan?
[1:00:27] I haven't seen that club logo in any important match in the last
[1:00:29] 10. Years so post post scudeto.
[1:00:31] Post except for that glorified club by Italia run there the the
[1:00:34] Champions League Yeah, but that was a.
[1:00:36] But Maldini. Was there you blinking?
[1:00:37] Yeah, Maldini was was director. That yeah, Madini was director.
[1:00:40] So explain some factors. I don't know bro where you want
[1:00:42] me to start. Like what?
[1:00:44] Like what do you think is the root cause right now?
[1:00:46] Right now it's definitely management.
[1:00:48] They've mismanagement or ownership owner, it could go to
[1:00:51] even ownership. It's it's like management.
[1:00:54] I consider it as ownership as well.
[1:00:56] No, it's two different entities, but they're ownership fires
[1:00:59] management. Exactly.
[1:01:00] So first of all, I hope at the end of the season someone's
[1:01:03] getting fired, whether it's who? Do you want to get fired?
[1:01:05] Who do you want? Whoever's been making the
[1:01:07] choices, I know they're they're communally making these choices.
[1:01:10] But listen, Ebra, whatever he's advising is not doing it right.
[1:01:14] Fulani, whoever he's buying, he's not buying the right.
[1:01:16] Players who? Fulani is the CEO, OK, So he's
[1:01:20] probably the guy who signs off, says I want that guy, okay.
[1:01:24] Is he is he like hired by Cardinal?
[1:01:28] Like is he higher? Yeah.
[1:01:29] So Cardinal is the owner, and then there's the CEO, which is
[1:01:32] Furlani. No, I'm saying does he have a a
[1:01:34] connection to Cardinali like personally like yeah, will he
[1:01:37] stay in in position just because he's the friend?
[1:01:39] But that's that's another problem.
[1:01:40] All these guys, they're all friends of each other.
[1:01:42] Juventus, they're the friends, they stay in position I.
[1:01:44] I was seeing a couple of Milan fans say that one of the more
[1:01:47] underrated aspects of Milan's downfall in the last couple of
[1:01:50] years is that Gazidis left because I yeah, he was a big got
[1:01:53] sick. No, yeah, he was sick.
[1:01:55] Yeah. So he, he was the Arsenal yo, He
[1:01:57] was as a CEO of Arsenal when they became like a very good
[1:02:01] financial, they used to be knocked financially like top
[1:02:04] tier. Now they're financially top
[1:02:06] tier. When did you go to Milan?
[1:02:07] Must have been in late twenty 10s.
[1:02:10] No 2018 around there. Yeah, I think around when Zlatan
[1:02:15] joined back around that. Yes, but I don't like
[1:02:19] financially Milan has been getting better like financial is
[1:02:23] not the. Issue.
[1:02:23] Yeah, yeah, financial. Well, revenues are up profit.
[1:02:26] We're we're positive every year. No, not.
[1:02:29] Not really. In Italy, if you don't make
[1:02:31] champions, no. But everyone in everyone in like
[1:02:33] Juventus, Inter, AC Milan, we're all, we're all turning more
[1:02:37] profits. Well, yeah, the bar was COVID,
[1:02:38] which it was the negative of all negative.
[1:02:40] So like. No, but I'm talking about
[1:02:42] banter. Like the fact that Milan got out
[1:02:45] of that banter era from like 2010.
[1:02:47] You were still. Spending money in that banter
[1:02:48] era. Yeah, but that's why we're
[1:02:50] legacy money. Spurts like they were, they
[1:02:52] were. We were bankrupt back then.
[1:02:53] Yeah. Like that's why the Chinese.
[1:02:55] Million, you spend 100 million and then go bankrupt the next
[1:02:58] year. Yeah.
[1:02:58] And then it's a new ownership would come in.
[1:03:00] Pretty much. Well it happened to Inter.
[1:03:02] They got repossessed, all these. Things out later on, but that's
[1:03:04] later on this. Bro your club actually got.
[1:03:07] Reapers you got repoed by. That, but that was but that we
[1:03:09] were still winning. We were winning.
[1:03:10] Like now that's a crazy repo videos where they just pull up
[1:03:14] that's like. That's why like.
[1:03:16] Imagine your club getting repoed.
[1:03:18] Yeah. I mean, I it's fine with me if
[1:03:21] the ownership is good with me, yeah, but I really don't care.
[1:03:24] Like, ownership to me doesn't matter unless they're gonna.
[1:03:27] Get back to his office. It was gone.
[1:03:29] No. Yeah, you bro.
[1:03:30] It's anyways go back to Milan. It's back to me.
[1:03:33] I don't know why answer is coming up right.
[1:03:35] Now the white blank is Breeze. I don't know why.
[1:03:37] But OK, so then you're saying you're saying upper management
[1:03:40] ran out is the main problem. Yeah, because the squad building
[1:03:42] has had no direction this year. They've made signings that maybe
[1:03:46] were stop gaps and they've proven to be so.
[1:03:50] They spent all summer going after Xerxi basically.
[1:03:53] Yeah. And then failed to get them,
[1:03:55] yeah. Failed to get them even though
[1:03:56] the price tag I would say it was what 40 million?
[1:03:59] I would say 35 to 40. Million, there's like there's 2,
[1:04:04] like your Manchester United, you're gonna spend more for
[1:04:06] Milan. 40 million is a big investment.
[1:04:08] It's a big investment. You don't bend over for those
[1:04:10] investments in my opinion. So they were good to not go for
[1:04:12] Xerxe, but if you're not. Going for and spend 35,000,000
[1:04:15] on Santiago Jimenez. Okay.
[1:04:17] That should have been done at the beginning of the year maybe.
[1:04:19] But a Syriac player that just dropped like one of the best
[1:04:24] season for strikers in in the city out.
[1:04:26] Last, I think, I think that Jimenez transfer makes the Xerxe
[1:04:29] 40 mil look bad in my opinion 'cause cause Jimenez, Jimenez is
[1:04:34] a good player I think objectively he's a good player
[1:04:36] We'll see you but. But jury's still out.
[1:04:37] Yeah, but you take that $35 million number and compare it to
[1:04:42] the 40 million where you said that it was way too high for
[1:04:45] Xerxy. But.
[1:04:45] Xerxy we didn't even spend 30. It was 32 or.
[1:04:47] Yeah, whatever, 30. OK, I see what you're saying,
[1:04:49] 30. 5 million but for a setiapu 6.
[1:04:51] Months later, when your season's already done, by the way, Well.
[1:04:53] Let's say it was 40 million. It's tough.
[1:04:55] If I offered you at the beginning of this season, xerxy
[1:04:57] loan until Xerxy loan until January for 5 million and then
[1:05:01] you have to buy. Yeah, obviously there's other
[1:05:03] ways like but it's it's even, it's even like you see all the
[1:05:06] Italian teams, they went for an Italian coach Thiago Mata.
[1:05:09] You saw even fucking the the lower level ones like Ferentina
[1:05:12] went for Paladino. Yeah, who else?
[1:05:14] Bologna. Italian Nacho lacho baroni
[1:05:16] lacho. Baroni, all these teams, Roma,
[1:05:18] Italian, all these teams got an Italian coach and Milan was the
[1:05:21] only one that went foreign and both Portuguese, both Portuguese
[1:05:25] and me and Millie were analyzing the last foreign coach to win
[1:05:29] Seria was Mourinho in 2010 before.
[1:05:31] That it was Van Gordon Erickson for last.
[1:05:35] Ten of those years is alegri. Then you add spaletti, you add
[1:05:39] pioli. You are Inzagi.
[1:05:41] You add manchini. Manchini.
[1:05:43] Alegri. OK.
[1:05:45] All the. A lot of them are the same
[1:05:47] managers. OK, but.
[1:05:49] Yeah, but like, well, exactly. Managers when?
[1:05:52] When you look at the crop of managers that were available,
[1:05:54] there was Alegri, Sari, Conte all.
[1:05:57] All winners. I think you guys should have
[1:06:00] gone for Conte. I said it the.
[1:06:01] Thing is. You said no.
[1:06:03] Because I don't. He said no.
[1:06:05] I said. I probably said no because he
[1:06:07] wants. Forward, bro, you wanna move
[1:06:08] forward? These these managers is the old,
[1:06:11] it's the past. No, but is proving it right now.
[1:06:13] He's not the past. Give us But it's a champions,
[1:06:16] it's a it's about the project. He would have crashed.
[1:06:18] Out of Champions League, would not play this season if he was
[1:06:20] in. A sure guarantee, but he would
[1:06:22] still be in a title race. He's always in a title race,
[1:06:24] yes. But is your standard you do you
[1:06:25] think that Milan's in? Fucking 8th place.
[1:06:27] He should not be complaining about a title race.
[1:06:28] At the beginning of the season, you're not looking at Milan and
[1:06:30] saying that's an eighth place team.
[1:06:31] You look at Milan and saying OK, well they have a project to
[1:06:33] build. Right now to win the project.
[1:06:35] If they wanted them to win Syria, if they wanted Syria
[1:06:38] success, top two, at least top three, if all they wanted was
[1:06:40] Syria success, they would have kept you.
[1:06:41] We were second last year. Cause purely is guaranteed Syria
[1:06:44] success with no. Champion.
[1:06:45] Purely, purely, There's this revision in revisionism going on
[1:06:48] that he was like this, this godsend coach.
[1:06:50] I've never he was so mid. He was so mid at the end.
[1:06:53] He. Was a good Syria coach.
[1:06:55] He won the school yet to one year, then he got slapped in
[1:06:57] every Derby against Inter, fell off the last year and people are
[1:07:00] saying Oh my God you should have kept slowly.
[1:07:02] So he just got sucked by Al Nassar?
[1:07:04] So then, so then the identity of Milan, like you guys were making
[1:07:07] transfers that that somewhat fit an identity.
[1:07:10] But like now, the way Milan is going, what do you need to see
[1:07:15] from Milan to reassure you that, OK, we're back on the right
[1:07:18] path? I think the fact that they
[1:07:20] didn't go for Italians was the downfall because Italians don't
[1:07:23] get scrutinies. How do you say that they don't
[1:07:25] get scrutinized? Like Atego Malta is not getting
[1:07:28] screwed now. He is, but like he wasn't
[1:07:30] getting scrutinized when he was knocked out of champions.
[1:07:33] Igor, Brazilian. Though it's a.
[1:07:34] Brazilian, yeah, but he's Italian.
[1:07:36] Like Fonseca was getting ripped in the first five games so and
[1:07:40] and the management is not backing them up.
[1:07:42] On second first five games included benching Leo and tail
[1:07:45] right off but look look at the. Trend.
[1:07:47] Has Leo and tail improved? No.
[1:07:49] So he was right to do that exactly.
[1:07:51] But maybe that's the cause, that maybe that's the root cause of
[1:07:54] their form this season. Yeah.
[1:07:55] Bad start to the season really derailed them.
[1:07:58] Then you continuous kill their confidence by bench.
[1:07:59] But but OK, so now you say target an Italian manager.
[1:08:05] What's next? Because for me, the root cause
[1:08:08] from an outside perspective is not a manner like it's not.
[1:08:12] Just oh agree. It's not the manager.
[1:08:13] It's ownership because as soon as the ownership came in,
[1:08:17] Elliott had your club running very well, the ownership, the
[1:08:20] past ownership of your club running very well.
[1:08:22] As soon as Jerry Cardinali came in, he started using Maldini as
[1:08:26] a scapegoat. And then that year sells Tonali
[1:08:30] for because he gets offered a nice penny for Tonali.
[1:08:32] That and not not every and he every single time he's in
[1:08:36] public, he says the wrong things.
[1:08:38] He's like, what did he say about Yeah, Cap Denali?
[1:08:42] He says who's the current owner? Yeah, he said.
[1:08:44] What did he say about the AC Milan?
[1:08:46] I didn't know AC Milan. AC Milan.
[1:08:49] AC Milan was or something. Yeah, he said something crazy
[1:08:51] like that. I remember that quote.
[1:08:53] He he said that AC Milan, I didn't know what I was buying or
[1:08:57] like, like basically he didn't know what he was buying.
[1:08:59] Yeah, but he also didn't like the problem is that these guys
[1:09:02] don't understand the culture in Italy.
[1:09:03] Like you can't just walk in 'cause his idea is you buy Milan
[1:09:07] for, I think it was 1.3 billion. You build the speed, huh?
[1:09:10] 1.21.2 you build the stadium right away and right away you
[1:09:14] have a, you make very good asset that you for sure make money in
[1:09:16] the future. He walks into Milan, he buys
[1:09:19] them, says holy shit the the city of Milano does not want to
[1:09:23] let me build a stadium. Yeah, but but that's not a
[1:09:26] Cardinali issue, that's a red bird issue.
[1:09:28] Like Red Bird has the manpower, the capabilities to do
[1:09:31] background checks to see if these things are.
[1:09:33] Possible buying a $1.2 billion. If Jerry Cardinali was was the
[1:09:37] richest man in the world and spending 1.2 billion on
[1:09:39] something you say, oh, I actually have no idea what I
[1:09:40] spent it on, then I would that would be believable.
[1:09:43] But when you have a full investment firm behind behind
[1:09:47] this and they're spending 1.2 billion, which is a lot of
[1:09:50] capital and you're telling me they didn't do any due diligence
[1:09:52] background check on no they. Did they did, but it it's more
[1:09:55] like exactly like you said, it's an investment.
[1:09:57] So right away they're going for $20 million players.
[1:09:59] They're not going for 100 million on one player because
[1:10:02] it's less risky to buy five players worth 20 million.
[1:10:06] You spend 100 million right there, chances are that you get
[1:10:09] like a Pula sitch that just goes up in value if you buy it
[1:10:13] Yolkatesh for 100 million. He might flop, you might lose
[1:10:17] value on it. He flops, you're losing 100
[1:10:18] million, but if one of the two or three of those players you.
[1:10:21] Still make money on someone? Yeah, those three out of five
[1:10:24] players. And I hate that strategy now.
[1:10:25] Maybe back in the day, I was like, it's working.
[1:10:27] You got a Moussa who has potential, who you never know,
[1:10:30] Rob. Reindeers.
[1:10:32] Reindeers Poola sits like but in the end there's you're still
[1:10:36] missing the core of the teams. I agree, unless you could.
[1:10:39] Unless you. Well, they thought they had that
[1:10:41] with layout and tail alone. Yeah, that's another problem in
[1:10:43] support pieces. But unless you're bored and your
[1:10:47] ownership changes their mind and realizes well if we want this
[1:10:50] asset to grow we got to invest big yes, then this problem will
[1:10:53] never fix itself unless I agree and you ownership.
[1:10:55] I agree, but that's what I'm that's why I'm saying Conte.
[1:10:59] It sounds good because it's Conte, but Conte would have
[1:11:02] never gotten backed and he would have left the next year.
[1:11:04] Just like he's doing monopoly. He's he's dipping next year
[1:11:06] there's yeah, he's not getting back.
[1:11:08] He just lost his main player. But I but I don't think there's
[1:11:11] ever been a point where they've sold the top players and he
[1:11:14] hasn't left. But Kante left Inter after
[1:11:16] winning a Scudetto with that team was very good.
[1:11:19] Sold Akimi and they sold Lukaku. He I think he left before both
[1:11:22] players were sold. Yeah.
[1:11:23] Imagine like this guy and then God doesn't care.
[1:11:26] Imagine Milan, they they build an entire summer to get Fonseca.
[1:11:30] They they barely back him, he gets sacked and now you just
[1:11:34] fucking put another stopgap with Constasao and but.
[1:11:36] It's stop supposed to be a stopgap or as Constasao was like
[1:11:39] OK, that was our second choice in the summer to be our long
[1:11:41] term coach, but to bring him in now?
[1:11:43] Reading stuff that they had an early exit clause into his
[1:11:46] class. Right.
[1:11:46] So it's like they don't trust their own project.
[1:11:48] Yeah, crazy. And you, you guys bring up
[1:11:50] Maldini. Maldini should come back as like
[1:11:52] a. But did you also see what Jerry
[1:11:55] Cardinali said to Spike Maldini even after the fact?
[1:11:58] He said when? When he he's asked about what's
[1:12:01] Latin role in, in the whole, he's like there's no better
[1:12:04] player in the history of AC Milan.
[1:12:06] Yeah, he's Latin. Role It's an American owner he's
[1:12:08] not the. Dumbest response.
[1:12:10] There's no bigger icon in AC Milan history.
[1:12:12] But there's two mile defense. Speaking absolutes when you're
[1:12:14] completely uninformed about something, bro.
[1:12:16] This is why American owners have said yeah, it's scary because I
[1:12:18] feel like they actually have no, no, because.
[1:12:20] I can't see that because Elliott was also an American owner and
[1:12:23] they ran Milan very well. But.
[1:12:24] Maybe that was. Maybe that was someone that was
[1:12:26] actually cared, actually gave a shit, but eventus I'm always
[1:12:29] grateful that our owners actually give a shit about
[1:12:30] soccer. Yeah, I agree.
[1:12:32] Know about football? Know about.
[1:12:33] Does help a lot. I've been the same owners since
[1:12:35] the 60s pretty much Anneli, Fiat and then it goes to and.
[1:12:38] Now it's like Ferrari. Yeah, still there's Italian you
[1:12:41] and they understand the Italian culture.
[1:12:43] You have the there's criticisms about UVA's ownership also that
[1:12:47] that when it was the Anneli family, well, it's still the
[1:12:49] Anneli family. But when it was Anneli, not
[1:12:51] really. Yeah.
[1:12:52] Well, whatever. When?
[1:12:53] So when it was when. Yeah, Yes.
[1:12:55] Yeah, yeah, he's an Anneli. Yes, yes, his mother side.
[1:12:58] But it's the Oh yeah. He's the grandson of.
[1:13:01] John, when Anneli was running the show, it was financial
[1:13:04] disaster, but sporting wise it was very good.
[1:13:07] Yeah. But then when it transferred
[1:13:08] over to Elkan, the financials got a lot better, but the
[1:13:11] sporting dropped off a Cliff. So it's like building a balance.
[1:13:14] Yeah. If you could have Anneli and
[1:13:16] Elkan have a kid, maybe that guy could be the future CEO.
[1:13:19] And then you'll have the. Yeah, I know, but I bro John
[1:13:21] Elkan got the hangover and and and Anneli got the party.
[1:13:25] Like yeah, the the IT was inevitable.
[1:13:27] They over you, overspent for footballing success and then
[1:13:31] afterwards when it all came crashing down with COVID but
[1:13:33] advancing that the whole league felt that, not just Juventus.
[1:13:35] Yeah, but but back to Milan. Yeah, Milan.
[1:13:40] Just poor, poor. Squad building and poor pieces
[1:13:42] on like the management does not have.
[1:13:45] Structure. First, Yeah, first of all, what?
[1:13:48] Like, why am I finding out in the past month that we don't
[1:13:51] have a sporting director? Like, why are we looking for
[1:13:53] one? First of all, like, is that not
[1:13:55] something you thought about before starting the season?
[1:13:57] Well, that's, that's something you you figure out as soon as
[1:13:59] you buy the club. That should be a sporting
[1:14:02] director. Yeah, sporting director should
[1:14:03] be #1. Like you're telling me you have
[1:14:06] you have Aceo, which probably manages the financial side of
[1:14:09] things. You have the advisor Ebra, you
[1:14:11] have the chief scout who's finding the players.
[1:14:13] But you don't have someone to link the team with the with the
[1:14:16] money spent and the the the player like the football.
[1:14:19] Side of it, yeah, of like the business aspect and the
[1:14:22] footballing aspect, the the sporting director's supposed to
[1:14:25] be in between that. Like, imagine Inter without a
[1:14:27] Maratha. Well, yeah, you'd be cooked.
[1:14:30] Yes, I agree. You know, really cooked and
[1:14:32] that's that's Milan right now, then they.
[1:14:33] 'D actually get penalties called on them.
[1:14:35] Yeah, exactly. But Milan, I think #1 is I don't
[1:14:39] listen. Keep Jerry Cardinali as owner.
[1:14:41] Really doesn't matter. I think they're never going to
[1:14:43] be good with him. But I think that definitely
[1:14:46] structure of management needs to be either streamlined or more
[1:14:48] defined because you have Ibra there, shown on camera every
[1:14:52] time. Milan concede they don't know
[1:14:53] what to put him as. They don't put a name tag on it.
[1:14:56] Yeah, because because they don't know who he is.
[1:14:59] Once you get that done, you get a sporting director in there,
[1:15:01] really make a clear, I like a a clear idea of what your transfer
[1:15:06] transfer season is going to look like and what the squad you want
[1:15:10] want it to look like by the beginning of the season you
[1:15:12] want. Bring it back to the Italian
[1:15:13] ways where you have an Italian exactly who leads Italian
[1:15:16] players because who? Who's best than it?
[1:15:19] How do you say that? Who, who are the better players
[1:15:22] to to play in an Italian league? It's obviously the Italian boy
[1:15:25] play, you know? About that, it's like a nucleus.
[1:15:27] It's like you, you have a nucleus of core players.
[1:15:29] Real Madrid as an Italian manager with no Spanish players.
[1:15:31] But Real Madrid are are, I think historically have not been.
[1:15:36] They also have one of the greatest managers of all time.
[1:15:38] And and they also buy the best players every time.
[1:15:42] Yeah. But but I think, I think Milan
[1:15:44] teams are are like Italian teams in general are you have to go
[1:15:48] more of an Italian. Because it failed, it's not
[1:15:51] possible to succeed. With that mentality I think you
[1:15:53] could build you could build an Italian team with non Italian
[1:15:57] assets. I don't think it's ever
[1:15:58] succeeded. Possible.
[1:15:59] I don't think it's ever succeeded.
[1:16:00] A non UV team UV. When their prime, the whole core
[1:16:03] was Italian, backline and goalkeeper was Italian, yeah.
[1:16:06] I suppose, but I mean like. Midfield, yeah, but you.
[1:16:08] Could look at other leads. Yeah, other leads.
[1:16:10] With Salah money like they're not.
[1:16:13] Yeah, I, I, I agree. But I think Italy is such a
[1:16:15] unique case where it's like you have to follow.
[1:16:17] Country says, oh, there's such a unique, you're not a unique
[1:16:20] case. You are a new unique.
[1:16:21] Every winner has had an Italian. Score have an Italian core have
[1:16:25] an Italian core like enter yeah and then every other all your
[1:16:27] other pieces you're. Yeah, don't have a, don't, don't
[1:16:30] have a nucleus of Italian promising Italian player
[1:16:33] exactly. I agree with you.
[1:16:34] Create create 3-4 Italian players in that team where they
[1:16:37] become the pillars, players that will see.
[1:16:39] Had it Tonali but the same guy in charge right now sold them.
[1:16:42] Yes, but you, you bring in a, a, a Ricci, you're bringing even
[1:16:46] like a let's. Say Ichi turns good, what's
[1:16:48] going to say Cardinali doesn't sell him I.
[1:16:50] Understand, but that's that's something that how about you get
[1:16:52] him for? Richie and Richie and Rovella,
[1:16:54] Sure good they do. They're never in my personal
[1:16:57] They're not going to turn into a Tonali, They're not going to
[1:16:59] turn into a Barrella. They're not going to do a.
[1:17:01] Barrella Barrella wasn't Barrella akayeri like Barrella
[1:17:04] was a barrella when he came your best chances like.
[1:17:05] Camarda, that's your. Best.
[1:17:07] But you're looking, Yeah, you're looking too much in the future.
[1:17:09] You need to win now like. He's 17.
[1:17:11] He's 18. I I know these players.
[1:17:13] By 2021, they were elite players.
[1:17:18] I don't know I you, but Ella made his transfer to Inter at
[1:17:20] 21. Yeah.
[1:17:21] And he was elite player. He was, he was one of Italy's
[1:17:24] best, Yeah, but I don't think. I don't think so.
[1:17:26] What's? Your point right now?
[1:17:27] So in 2-3 years Camada should be at the.
[1:17:31] Top Camada is a guy that we've been trying to develop like he's
[1:17:34] obviously in the. Right.
[1:17:35] It's like Cheeto Obi Martin. But right now when I watch
[1:17:38] Cheeto Obi, you know Cheeto B Martin today in Fulham's game.
[1:17:42] This is why I harp on young players should be getting
[1:17:45] opportunities over these fucking failed transfers that you're
[1:17:47] just trying to recoup money over like Hoyland should.
[1:17:50] OB Martin today and get a game against Fulham.
[1:17:52] Had three big chances in 52 minutes.
[1:17:56] Hoyland has three big chances in the last 22 games.
[1:17:59] Why the fuck are we playing Hoyland?
[1:18:01] To check the stats. It's not bro.
[1:18:03] Hoyland has 17 shots this season.
[1:18:05] Jeez, do you know how bad that is for a striker to have
[1:18:08] seventeen shots? I think you have the same issue
[1:18:11] with the management as we do that you you want to value your
[1:18:16] investments like a Hoyland that's being brought in for 80
[1:18:19] million. That was the past management.
[1:18:21] I think what we did this summer, I can say I like most of our
[1:18:25] transfers this summer. But like even a dilit like
[1:18:27] dilit. Was dilit has been good so.
[1:18:29] Far from It's a market opportunity that could pay off
[1:18:31] like the worst thing you lose is 40 million.
[1:18:32] The players that our management brought in have actually been
[1:18:36] our best players. This.
[1:18:36] Year Boylan created twelve chances.
[1:18:39] In which game? This season, this in the Premier
[1:18:40] League not. Created big chances like they
[1:18:43] keep shot 3 big chances well I. Mean he only has 2.5 expected
[1:18:47] goals. Exactly.
[1:18:48] And how many games it's? Terrible.
[1:18:49] Yeah, 22. But I think, I think Milan
[1:18:52] definitely need a clear identity as to what they want, how to
[1:18:56] build their team. And I think that does start with
[1:18:58] an Italian core, 'cause that's I, I'm just basing it off what
[1:19:00] Inter did, Interbuilt an Italian core.
[1:19:03] They invested heavily into an Italian core.
[1:19:04] I'm not saying, well you just spawned it, but 40 million on
[1:19:07] Batella, 40 million plus on Bastoni.
[1:19:10] But look, they they have hit. Let's not act like Milan just
[1:19:13] miss, miss, miss. Like, no, they don't.
[1:19:15] They hit big on Leo, they hit big on Teo, they hit big on
[1:19:18] Pulisic, they hit big on there's there's.
[1:19:20] Reindeer they hit before selling they hit on Tonali.
[1:19:22] Before The thing is that you there's no.
[1:19:26] Like, there's no like an Athletico Madrid.
[1:19:28] Like connection to the fans is dead.
[1:19:30] Let's. Go 4.
[1:19:30] Yeah. But but what I'm saying.
[1:19:33] Like Atletico Madrid, you're you're bringing in a Conor
[1:19:36] Gallagher who's obviously not Spanish and you're like, Oh my
[1:19:38] God, how's he gonna fit in? Conor Gallagher's a perfect
[1:19:40] player for how Diego Simeone plays.
[1:19:43] You bring in a a Musa for Fonseca.
[1:19:47] What? What is the connection there?
[1:19:49] You know what I mean? Like it's there's no you can't
[1:19:52] translate. Conte is the most specific play
[1:19:54] like a Simeone or Conte. These are both like you look at
[1:19:57] players and you say that is a Simeone or Conte Exactly.
[1:20:00] OK, but Fonseca, I don't look at a player and say that's a
[1:20:02] Fonseca type player. Well, he has the type of players
[1:20:04] that he obviously likes to play, but for consist of exactly, for
[1:20:09] example, is like a defensive coach.
[1:20:11] I haven't seen him defend this entire season.
[1:20:13] It's been atrocious. So, so now with the way the
[1:20:17] season's going, where, how do you see Milan going into the
[1:20:21] summer where you're risking Champions League like?
[1:20:24] We're not making. Well, you're not making
[1:20:25] Champions League. So you don't make What do you
[1:20:26] expect out of the summer if you don't make champions?
[1:20:28] So how do you see this summer going for a Milan where you kind
[1:20:31] of have to revamp a lot of things, but you don't have the
[1:20:34] funds to do it because Champions League takes a big chunk out?
[1:20:37] But this is a time where ownership needs to step up and
[1:20:39] invest some money. But that's not gonna happen.
[1:20:41] But now you're spending. Now you're gonna be spending
[1:20:44] probably 20 to 25% more on players.
[1:20:46] Let's say realistically, what do you what do you expect that you
[1:20:49] could do this summer? They're probably gonna change
[1:20:51] the coach. They're they they might buy like
[1:20:53] a Ricci or an Italian. They need Italians for the list.
[1:20:56] That's positive. Yeah, like that's all I'm.
[1:20:58] Looking at what what happens if you walk out?
[1:21:00] What happens if you walk out of summer and your summer is you
[1:21:03] sign the Ricci you signed what? What other positions would you
[1:21:06] say you need? All of them right back.
[1:21:09] OK, me too I. Oh, right back was like, give me
[1:21:11] Walker. Give me an actual position
[1:21:13] center back like. Legit I would like fucking
[1:21:16] destroy the team. And OK, a new center back, you
[1:21:19] get a new center back, you get Ichi and you get a new right
[1:21:21] wing and your coaches, says Fabregas.
[1:21:23] How happy are you with that? Fabregas has one year coaching
[1:21:27] in Syria. Tiago Mota as well.
[1:21:30] Tiago mota like. He's also we're also giving
[1:21:33] Thiago Mota. Yeah, that's.
[1:21:35] What I'm saying, that's what I'm saying is that.
[1:21:38] I'm jury's still out for me, for Thiago Mota.
[1:21:40] I don't think I don't. Think I agree, but I.
[1:21:42] Didn't do what Thiago Mota's doing, but.
[1:21:45] He's doing it a way worse team. I don't think Fabregas to the
[1:21:48] right move you're the. Main table with Como but Bologna
[1:21:51] me Champions League. I just don't see Fabregas as the
[1:21:54] as the right move. That's experimental.
[1:21:56] You did experimental with Fonseca already.
[1:21:58] You did experimental with Contessao.
[1:21:59] But you're not gonna do it again and waste another year like you
[1:22:02] bring in a Saudi who would bring in you?
[1:22:03] Bring in an Italian you. Bring in either Contesari
[1:22:06] alegri, yes? Gaspedini, Would you be
[1:22:08] interested in Gaspedini? Sure, sure.
[1:22:10] Like why what? What makes me say I don't want
[1:22:13] him like fan by? The way.
[1:22:15] Yeah, but they still say he's Italian and.
[1:22:16] As long as you're you're backing these managers because you know,
[1:22:19] if you bring in an Allegri, he has a different way of playing.
[1:22:21] If you bring in Asad, he has a more fluid way of playing.
[1:22:25] Brother, you need to like find the right players to play these.
[1:22:28] OK. You sign Allegri.
[1:22:31] That does not fit your star players right now.
[1:22:33] That's layout. I don't think we have star
[1:22:34] players anymore like everybody. Layout signed for five years
[1:22:37] with 175 mil release clause. You're committed to that player
[1:22:40] maximizing. I know, but he's he's completely
[1:22:42] gone right now. Do you think he's a possession
[1:22:45] based player? Is he a counter attacking bass
[1:22:47] player like? I don't know, but I know Allegri
[1:22:49] don't fit that. I know him and Allegri won't
[1:22:52] mess. Are you sacrificing an entire
[1:22:54] team just to keep layout on it? No, no.
[1:22:56] When when now one player is significantly better than
[1:22:59] everyone else on your team. You kind of do need to somewhat,
[1:23:02] but. Yeah, that significance hasn't
[1:23:03] been shown this all seasons. OK, sure.
[1:23:06] It's not a couple games, it's all seasons.
[1:23:07] Not on the managers, it's the players.
[1:23:09] Like I keep backing up the managers and obviously we keep
[1:23:12] seeing it. Red card here, penalty over
[1:23:14] there, red card there, sloppy. How many times is it the
[1:23:17] manager's fault? But is it the but you, you in
[1:23:20] the discussion you said it was management, you said it was
[1:23:22] managers. Yeah, and I think it's players,
[1:23:24] but not. 'Cause managers haven't been
[1:23:26] backed with the right players. But Leo was Leo.
[1:23:29] Leo has also been through. Also Fonseca does.
[1:23:32] I don't think Fonseca has the CV to be just blindly backed.
[1:23:36] But that's another. Discussion that could be
[1:23:38] blinding, exactly like. Why you're going to have Ponte?
[1:23:42] Yes, but, but obviously they didn't go for it, but.
[1:23:44] Exactly. You're telling me you bring in
[1:23:46] Conte? Leo was not gonna fit in a three
[1:23:48] back? What are you gonna do with
[1:23:49] Levada? Yeah, he fit.
[1:23:51] Cavada's way better more versus Cavada.
[1:23:54] Fit bro like bro. Cavada was not that was not that
[1:23:58] good, was not having that good at the beginning, bro.
[1:24:00] He was not having that good of a seat.
[1:24:02] What? Are you talking about bro?
[1:24:04] He did not bro. Guys.
[1:24:06] Bro He 100. Percent is playing more.
[1:24:08] I mean pull that out of your ass bro.
[1:24:10] What did you say? Not that he was.
[1:24:12] He was worth. I would say LA vodka was better
[1:24:14] but. No Cavada was nuts bro.
[1:24:15] The difference between Cavada and Leo is that Cavada you could
[1:24:18] play calm that's why he worked out with Konte.
[1:24:20] Leo where is he going to play in a three back?
[1:24:22] You're going to play in left wing back and play in striker. 2
[1:24:25] positions that. I think, I think personally, I
[1:24:28] think Sati. Because you're going to say he's
[1:24:30] not a GA type player, but. He's not he.
[1:24:31] Actually isn't but. I know he isn't, but that's why
[1:24:34] I won't say it. I just watched him.
[1:24:35] Ability wise he's great. He took a step back from us.
[1:24:37] He took a step back, but I would I would say Saudi is probably
[1:24:41] the best option. Saudi.
[1:24:42] I agree Saudi, because I think he can work the most with what
[1:24:45] you have. I agree.
[1:24:46] I don't know. But I mean, agree to disagree on
[1:24:50] on that, but I think gentlemen, the last thing we'll be speaking
[1:24:54] about on this podcast. Listen, PK has made the rounds
[1:24:58] this Oh my God, I'm stuttering, but I'll let you guys say I'll
[1:25:02] just. Yeah, I read.
[1:25:03] I read the article. You guys know what I'm talking
[1:25:05] about? So PK goes out and says 00 draws
[1:25:09] should not be rewarded with points.
[1:25:11] What do we think about this as you invent this fan?
[1:25:14] I don't. I don't want this because we
[1:25:15] have 13 draws this season. He's saying that after the 70th
[1:25:18] minute, teams are going to be way more interested in getting
[1:25:21] that one gold to get all three points.
[1:25:24] Listen, I'm I'm actually a fan of the idea.
[1:25:26] I completely agree. Why?
[1:25:27] Why do games have to end 00? What?
[1:25:30] What entertainment do you get from A00 game?
[1:25:33] Listen, the sport football is too refined to be regressing to
[1:25:37] something that's bottom table. Teams no longer have a reason to
[1:25:41] play versus the big boys because they will lose regard like they
[1:25:44] will lose 100%. You need to give smaller teams
[1:25:47] and mid table teams a chance to get points out of draws versus
[1:25:49] the big boys. I think taking such.
[1:25:52] Thing as scoring in a draw, it doesn't need to end 00.
[1:25:55] I'm sorry, but a bottom table team in the Premier League and
[1:25:57] Ipswich will never be able to get a win versus Liverpool this
[1:26:01] season. Like, yeah, go check it out.
[1:26:04] Go check it out if they've done it.
[1:26:05] But like, it's not, it's not a, it's not a consistently
[1:26:08] reasonable thing for Ipswich to do.
[1:26:10] Yes it's it depends how many games N 00.
[1:26:13] I'm not really sure the statistics on it, but I don't.
[1:26:15] Know behalf of them are probably Arsenal, so they'd probably be
[1:26:17] out of a title race at. This point, yeah, it's fast,
[1:26:20] yeah. I'm not even lying.
[1:26:21] Yeah, they beat Chelsea 2 nil. They'd be Tottenham 2/1.
[1:26:25] So the bar's in hell, but continue.
[1:26:27] The bars, not nails. They're not top teams but
[1:26:30] Ipswich goes into a home game at Anfield.
[1:26:32] Ipswich don't have a single 00 game to see, they have one
[1:26:35] against Brighton. I'm.
[1:26:36] Saying I'm saying Ipswich does not go to Anfield, Liverpool
[1:26:40] giants at home and says and says let's go out and let's go out
[1:26:44] and and win. It's like, let's play our hearts
[1:26:47] out and if we get a draw, let's grind out a draw.
[1:26:48] OK, sure, but what I. It's Liverpool's.
[1:26:51] It's Liverpool's efforts that should be let's go out and let's
[1:26:55] beat IPSA. OK.
[1:26:56] So you're taking completely the competitive side of it.
[1:26:59] Now take it from a fan's perspective.
[1:27:01] Oh I agree with the fan side I. Especially Liverpool at Anfield.
[1:27:05] I just spent 300, four, $100 to be here and one team isn't even
[1:27:09] trying to win. Bro but.
[1:27:12] Either inter versus inter versus?
[1:27:15] Arsenal. Napoli, well, Inter versus
[1:27:17] Arsenal, Inter versus Man City and Inter versus Napoli.
[1:27:21] But even even at a competitive side of things like a Como is
[1:27:25] going out there and trying to get that goal.
[1:27:27] Like, why? Why?
[1:27:28] Why is it an identity for a lower league, for a lower team
[1:27:32] to go for a 00? Yes, Like why?
[1:27:34] Because they don't always have the skill to beat the top guys.
[1:27:37] But. Then you shouldn't be playing in
[1:27:39] the top division. Exactly.
[1:27:40] I'd rather. I'd rather lose.
[1:27:42] There's no one else. That's so unfair to say like,
[1:27:46] like Ipswich what? But because like, if Ipswich can
[1:27:48] come say like, listen, yeah, there's a good chance we're
[1:27:51] going to lose versus Liverpool's and, and then cities and all
[1:27:54] that, and you're going to say, well then you don't deserve to
[1:27:56] be in the top division. But they could come out and say,
[1:27:58] yeah, we could beat a Wolverine. But you can draw without it
[1:28:00] being 00. You can.
[1:28:02] You can make a one, one or two, 2, whatever.
[1:28:04] You could do whatever. It was the whole point if if the
[1:28:06] rule if P KS rule applies then any draw you don't know 66 will
[1:28:09] still be. The issue is 120.
[1:28:11] Oh yeah, it's just 00. I think it's just 00, like if
[1:28:14] it's one one or two two, then you get a point.
[1:28:16] But if it's 00, absolutely no points.
[1:28:19] Yeah, which I agree with, that I prefer.
[1:28:21] I said I read the article, but apparently I didn't read the.
[1:28:23] Article The issue with is teams going into a game not even
[1:28:28] trying to score. Yeah, that's the issue.
[1:28:30] Because if you don't, even if you don't try and score, you're
[1:28:33] literally just, we're just gonna be watching.
[1:28:35] Time bro. Yeah exactly.
[1:28:36] Look at the get off I think. It was a season, yeah.
[1:28:39] But they they legit just said we're we're not playing.
[1:28:42] Yeah, you do your your tricks there.
[1:28:44] Not, not scoring monopoly, Kante versus Juventus at the first
[1:28:48] game of the season. Well, the first time we face
[1:28:50] them, Kante said. Guys, we're going out there.
[1:28:52] We're not scoring goal. Like it's embarrassing.
[1:28:55] Development League of the MLSMLS next actually implemented, I
[1:28:59] think, I don't know if it was this season or last season, but
[1:29:01] they implemented a rule. OK.
[1:29:02] And it's even more extreme than this PK rule that when games end
[1:29:06] tied, they go to penalty shootouts to see who.
[1:29:08] It's more of a North American thing when games there's no such
[1:29:11] thing as ties. So when games tied, they go to a
[1:29:13] penalty shootout to see who gets the points.
[1:29:16] I would like a golden goal time situation.
[1:29:19] The issue with that is players play even more so then this.
[1:29:22] Brother's going to be complaining every weekend.
[1:29:24] I'm not complaining. Yolinsky hamstrings, bro.
[1:29:28] They're fucking. I mean, bro, when I see my
[1:29:30] players dropping with uncontested injuries, like,
[1:29:34] yeah, I'm going to say, you know, these guys are overworked.
[1:29:36] The first time, the first time in four years that you've had
[1:29:40] like more than two injuries and now you're complaining.
[1:29:42] It's an aging team. No, it's just their play style.
[1:29:45] They don't get injured, they don't dribble past anyone.
[1:29:47] Yeah. We just don't.
[1:29:48] Man, if you had my injury list, I think you'd actually be
[1:29:50] croaked here, okay? I just spurs injury.
[1:29:53] I don't, yeah. I don't, so I'm not like if
[1:29:55] we're gonna absolutes. Longer games means that the big
[1:29:58] dog usually wins, yes, so I wouldn't do that.
[1:30:01] I, I honestly really like this system where it's you, you
[1:30:04] penalize both teams for being 00 exactly.
[1:30:06] But in, in instances where you look at it on each individual
[1:30:10] game, you could say, well, obviously one team is trying a
[1:30:14] way less than the other team, you know what I mean?
[1:30:16] But I think with this, it's an incentive for teams, both teams,
[1:30:20] to try to open up and try to get that game-winning goal that get
[1:30:23] those three points. I say it's, it's just like, OK,
[1:30:27] maybe it doesn't go towards entertainment, but it's a skill
[1:30:30] issue. If you can't break down the
[1:30:31] block and beat one of those shit teams that keeps you to zero
[1:30:33] goals, that's on you. This is something that a league
[1:30:36] like and it could easily be implemented, let's say a year
[1:30:39] down line or two years down line by the other leagues.
[1:30:41] But when we were speaking about Syria, this is something that
[1:30:43] Syria can implement that gains a competitive advantage in terms
[1:30:47] of entertainment compared to the other.
[1:30:49] The Syria is you can be a. Front runner, you could be a but
[1:30:52] stop. Stop trying.
[1:30:53] Stop thinking about the past. Think about the future.
[1:30:56] I, I, I agree with you, but that's you're, you're touching,
[1:30:59] you're treating yourself as the MLS like you're, you're, you're
[1:31:04] saying, you're saying this all this history and being big and
[1:31:07] you're just admitting defeat and you're saying, OK, now we got to
[1:31:09] try stupid shit that MLS tries. It's.
[1:31:12] OK, what's the downside to it? You are increasing the
[1:31:16] entertainment of your league. Yeah yes a couple of Italians in
[1:31:20] Italy will get mad. Who cares?
[1:31:22] This will lead to long term growth to your league because
[1:31:25] you will become the most entertaining league.
[1:31:28] The worst thing to watch as a neutral IS00 game state.
[1:31:34] Mm hmm. Wonder how many 0 zeros happen?
[1:31:35] Well, look at this. It's not, but it's not just 00
[1:31:38] happened in city of this season. It's the fact that team like
[1:31:42] you, you discourage teams from just being at 0000 is the worst
[1:31:48] thing. Look at the neutral.
[1:31:49] Look at that new rule that they added of the goalkeepers that if
[1:31:52] they waste time, you're getting a coin.
[1:31:53] Yes, that's a good. Rule implementation, yeah,
[1:31:55] because it stops goalies from wasting time and wasting my time
[1:31:59] watching. There was actually a like
[1:32:00] someone studying David Riot takes 20 something seconds on
[1:32:03] average per per. Ridiculous.
[1:32:07] You 20 seconds at a time. That should be illegal.
[1:32:10] It should be illegal. I could just imagine like a
[1:32:13] Martinez like for for. Rio was the highest really, by
[1:32:16] far. He's gonna have some questions.
[1:32:19] He's gonna start sweating. Then it's gracious.
[1:32:21] Corner there, Corner. There's a good.
[1:32:23] Implementation very good but then also like quarters also
[1:32:26] slowed down the game so like yes OK 8 seconds but it the goal is
[1:32:30] to but. At least but it but it isn't a
[1:32:32] goal scoring option exactly. So that's the reasoning there.
[1:32:35] There is a a give and take to it, but I I do think that it's
[1:32:40] either a FIFA implements it with every league.
[1:32:42] That won't happen, which won't happen.
[1:32:44] So then. It's a league that's going to
[1:32:45] take. So I guess whoever, whoever
[1:32:47] takes that first jump into something like this will have
[1:32:51] the most eyes on it for that for that time, and they're going to
[1:32:53] be the tester. I bold prediction, I think it's
[1:32:56] either going to be the Bundesliga or the Prem.
[1:32:59] Brother PK just said it. It's not.
[1:33:00] Yeah, I think it's not PK, just no, this is.
[1:33:03] This is this is like it. I leagues do this, they throw an
[1:33:09] idea out. The NHL does this also.
[1:33:11] They throw an idea out. They see the public perception
[1:33:13] of it and then they see, oh, should we implement this?
[1:33:17] But then it goes to. A board of directors meeting and
[1:33:19] stuff like that. But but I think, I think smaller
[1:33:21] teams automatically say no to this because then because then
[1:33:24] their because theirs, their interest is not the overall
[1:33:28] satisfaction of fans. Their interest is can my team,
[1:33:31] is my team going? To be, but that's why, that's
[1:33:33] why in your league you have an issue with the play styles.
[1:33:37] In the bundle. That could be I.
[1:33:38] Mean listen, listen. In the Bundesliga or the Premier
[1:33:41] League, most teams play an attacking front foot style.
[1:33:45] So then then those leagues, every team's going to probably
[1:33:47] be encouraged by this rule. It's possible.
[1:33:51] I don't know, I don't, I don't know these ownership rules.
[1:33:53] I think as a, as a, as a global relegation team.
[1:33:55] It's not too big of a change. It's it's something that it
[1:33:59] what's the downside of it? It makes the sport more
[1:34:03] entertaining from a viewer. I don't think there's a
[1:34:05] downside. And this I don't, I don't think
[1:34:07] you should apply this rule to Champions League and knockout
[1:34:09] competitions. Knockout competitions should not
[1:34:11] have this rule. It makes red cards.
[1:34:14] It's it's just I don't, I don't like you get a red card in the
[1:34:16] 15th minute, you no longer have a shot.
[1:34:19] I'm getting any point out of the game.
[1:34:21] There's no point of watching as as a home fan there's no point
[1:34:22] of even watching. But those games are the most
[1:34:24] boring games I know. But those games aren't for the
[1:34:27] fans. You get a red card in the 15th
[1:34:29] minute. But why does it make when when
[1:34:31] you get when a team gets a red card in the 15 minute, 15th
[1:34:34] minute? Why are those games so boring?
[1:34:36] It's because you know all that team's not even gonna try
[1:34:39] attacking. Yeah, they're still gonna not
[1:34:40] try to. That's fair.
[1:34:40] It's tactical bro. Venezia plays Lazio.
[1:34:42] Venezia gets a red card in the 10th minute there.
[1:34:45] There's no reality where where Venezia can get a point that a.
[1:34:48] Tactical is is, so it's such a misuse term because tactical is
[1:34:54] only a. You can only apply tactical to
[1:34:56] the rules of the game. If the rules of the game change,
[1:34:58] the tactics change also. That is, tactical can be used in
[1:35:02] a different. Term.
[1:35:03] So what does Venezia do when they're down a man and the 10th
[1:35:05] minute versus Atlanta versus center versus?
[1:35:07] Well, the the mentality has to be like, OK, well, if we're
[1:35:10] going to get no points, they're going to get no points.
[1:35:12] That's that doesn't, unfortunately, it's not a
[1:35:14] motivator for a Venezia that's battling relegation that to take
[1:35:17] points off of the top guys, they'd rather have them.
[1:35:20] Yeah. But then at that point they just
[1:35:21] concede. Like I think there's two,
[1:35:24] there's two angles to it. I think that's one.
[1:35:26] And I think the other one is the games become more entertaining.
[1:35:30] So I don't, I don't know. I can see your point.
[1:35:32] I'm playing devil's advocate. I can see your point.
[1:35:34] They will make the sport more entertaining as a whole.
[1:35:36] But like I think there's downsides to it.
[1:35:39] And also the more entertaining matches are so entertaining,
[1:35:42] like the four fours of the bars. Athleticos are so entertaining
[1:35:45] because every once in a while we have to watch a 00.
[1:35:48] Yeah, the you can't always get that boom.
[1:35:50] Entertainment. There has to be boring.
[1:35:51] Games but even with this even with this rule I it's inevitable
[1:35:55] that there's gonna be 0 zeros. There's too many games and.
[1:35:58] Statistics will show you that, yes.
[1:36:00] But you get but you know. Life your hope.
[1:36:02] Your hope is that it will be reduced.
[1:36:04] Yes, because if you're 00 at half, your manager's gonna tell
[1:36:06] you get out there and win this game.
[1:36:07] Yes, more so than if the rule was.
[1:36:09] Especially like a Liverpool or an Arsenal or something.
[1:36:11] Like that, even just if, let's say you go into the last 10
[1:36:15] minutes of a 00, that might become the most entertaining
[1:36:19] football because both teams are going to be going back and
[1:36:22] forth, just committing them. Forward each.
[1:36:24] Time, so that might actually be when you see a 00, it might
[1:36:27] actually become the most entertaining.
[1:36:29] Oh, I need to turn this on, right.
[1:36:30] It's like overtime for hockey, three on three.
[1:36:33] I need to turn this on right now because both teams are just
[1:36:35] going to go goal scoring opportunity for goal scoring
[1:36:37] opportunity. I mean, you know, you're kind of
[1:36:38] right because the NHL did do a massive change with overtime and
[1:36:41] it's way better. Way better, yes.
[1:36:43] But you can't be. Scared of change?
[1:36:45] You can't be scared. Of change the four V4 and they
[1:36:47] made it into a 3V3. Yeah, they made it into a 3V3,
[1:36:49] but the point system didn't change.
[1:36:51] You still got a point at going into overtime.
[1:36:54] But before that, teams would tie.
[1:36:56] There was ties in the NHL. I'm sure when people started
[1:36:59] saying let's implement overtime so that our team always wins,
[1:37:02] people were like, no, hockey rules, we need ties.
[1:37:07] Like no embrace change now some changes a lot like arson Wenger
[1:37:13] when he was saying those rule changes couple years back, like
[1:37:15] no, those those that's kind of crazy.
[1:37:17] But no, I think arson Wenger. What was arson Wenger's offside
[1:37:20] rule change that he that he tried to implementing?
[1:37:22] I think it was the. Hand of the head like.
[1:37:25] I think it was the I. Want to measure it from a
[1:37:26] different point? Yeah, I think it was the
[1:37:28] furthest part back of the of the striker instead of the the like.
[1:37:33] Like hockey? Yeah.
[1:37:34] So you could be offside. Like in hockey, if you enter the
[1:37:37] zone but the guy's toe is past the blue line and he's safe.
[1:37:40] Yes. So he wants the same.
[1:37:42] Yeah, that's a little extreme. I think like that you're
[1:37:44] changing the rules of the game. Yeah, this.
[1:37:46] You're just changing the incentives of how the game go.
[1:37:49] Entertainment of the game you're changing.
[1:37:51] Yeah, I'm all for it. I agree.
[1:37:53] I can see it, but I think that's about it.
[1:37:56] Yeah, we're gonna, we're gonna head over to Patreon after this
[1:37:58] video though, to do the Champions League preview.
[1:38:00] We have some massive matches. We have Bayer Leverkusen versus
[1:38:03] Bayern Munich and as well, we're gonna be live streaming all of
[1:38:06] these matches throughout the week, so.
[1:38:08] Be a busy week. Big week, a big week for us and
[1:38:10] you guys are gonna be seeing a lot of boxing box.
[1:38:12] It's. Gonna be fun.
[1:38:13] You guys already saw Around the 16 on YouTube, but the CL
[1:38:15] preview on Patreon's probably gonna be a more a bit more like
[1:38:19] speaking about the actual like tactics of the game A.
[1:38:21] Little added content for you guys as.
[1:38:23] Yeah, yeah. So.
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[1:38:26] We'll be posting it there, but as always, we will see you next
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