# PSG Crush Inter Miami, Bayern March On, Juve Fall to City | Box2Box EP 64

An episode of [Box2Box Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1743312473), 30 Jun 2025, 1 h 37 min.

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PSG absolutely demolish Inter Miami and stake their claim as favorites to win it all. Bayern Munich advance after a tough battle, while Juventus suffer a brutal loss to Manchester City. We discuss what went wrong for Juve, how far PSG can really go, and whether City are still the team to beat.🎧 Listen now and join the convo!🔗 SUPPORT + FOLLOW US 🔗🎁 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/Box2BoxShow📺 Main Channel: @box2boxshow 📸 Instagram: @box2box.show🎵 TikTok: @box2box.show🎙 Meet the HostsVarvar – @varvar_b2bPala – @luca.palazzeseMili – @amilizianoFerms – @fermini_

## Transcript

[0:00] Welcome back to the Boxer Box podcast.
[0:02] This is episode 64 in Manchester City Destroy Juventus.
[0:05] Is the gap between the Premier League and other leagues
[0:07] widening? And we'll be talking about PSG
[0:09] dismantling Inter Miami. Is the MLS on fraud?
[0:12] Watch and so many transfers to go through just like Ciao Pedro
[0:15] to Chelsea and Bonnie Tenter. All that and more on the Boxer
[0:19] Box Podcast. Let's go.
[0:21] You ain't going home. Your Honor, I'm sorry.
[0:25] Your Honor, I'm sorry. On.
[0:28] The pitch and Bangula starts our next.
[0:38] Game tomorrow. Would you rather saliva and
[0:40] Buffett right? Saliva.
[0:42] Right now you wouldn't saliva, right?
[0:45] Now when you lie, that's. Right now.
[0:52] Boys, another week, another pod. How we doing not?
[0:55] Too bad. I mean, listen, start off with a
[0:58] bit. I just, I know we're not going
[0:59] to talk about it too much about F1.
[1:01] Listen, I know we'll take P3P4, We'll take it.
[1:03] We'll take it. But why has that become the new
[1:05] standard? We just have to accept it but
[1:07] right? Now Piashree and Norris are just
[1:09] racing in a in in a race of their own up top.
[1:12] Yeah, that's another whole different story.
[1:14] But I mean we just have to mention it for our T4 CR out of
[1:17] the. Standings.
[1:18] I mean, we're second in the constructors, yeah.
[1:20] Who? I heard well Norris won today,
[1:22] so he cuts the he cuts the lead to Piashree in the in the
[1:25] drivers championship constructors McLaren clearly
[1:29] number #1 they're going to win in my opinion.
[1:32] Verstappen once again. Well Verstappen go to DNF
[1:35] because yeah, crazy Kimmy Antonelli the road he decided to
[1:38] drive straight lock up and drive straight into the back of him,
[1:41] which allowed for Ferrari to get that comfortable 3/4 for
[1:43] Tsakimi. Super boring race but a lot of
[1:47] takeaways honestly from the race.
[1:48] Basically McLaren is dropping the season that Inter should
[1:51] have had in City. Yeah, right.
[1:53] What? That's crazy.
[1:55] He's very He's implying that Enter should have ran away with
[1:57] it. Trying to rage bait in an F1
[1:59] talk with parallels to enter. Am I lying?
[2:01] Yeah, well, you're right, no barriers to the rage bait.
[2:05] But I mean, listen, we'll take those points for now.
[2:08] What's his? Kick Kick had a good.
[2:10] I saw. I saw Stop.
[2:11] Yeah, I saw Kick Sauber I. Think are they still kick?
[2:14] Yes, they're still kick. Well, they're but I saw.
[2:16] How many points 'cause they're gonna become?
[2:17] Audi they have more points than Red Bull in the last like couple
[2:21] of races, 3 or 4 races. I think Bortoletto got the hey
[2:25] Portal got the driver of the day.
[2:27] No way for stopping ain't leaving bro.
[2:29] Stopping in the red, we end up once again.
[2:32] Who's who's? Who's he taking the seat?
[2:34] Taking away Lord. Knows.
[2:37] No, not got a third seat. Going.
[2:38] Get a third seat going. Audi, Red Audi or Aston Martin?
[2:42] Aston Martin, Yeah, with Adrian Newey.
[2:45] Fernando Lonzo is gone in the next whatever years.
[2:48] Rather this guy, you always, we always say that, but then he's
[2:51] like Ronaldo, I got two more. But think he's very he, he
[2:56] competes, but he can't race until he's 50 years old, you
[2:59] know, So there's a certain point in time where he'll have to
[3:01] retire. And no better way.
[3:03] Verstappen takes over that first seat.
[3:05] Adrian Nui, banger of a car. Lance Stroll hits, gets gets his
[3:08] Valie Jenny pass. Yeah, he runs away, gets back to
[3:10] Canada. So, so Red Bull's falling off is
[3:12] what I'm No, no. No, I don't think so.
[3:14] But they always focus on way younger drivers and it's just
[3:18] like they they put a lot of focus in the development.
[3:20] And I don't know, I think Verstappen's looking for bigger
[3:23] things. Now firms no driver since
[3:26] probably I'd say Daniel Ricardo. You don't remember that Ricardo
[3:29] but like when he was at Red Bull that was the last time they had
[3:31] two competent drivers. Well two, it's good pure no car
[3:34] being good Correction, 2 drivers that were doing well at Red Bull
[3:37] because Red Bull have had many good second drivers.
[3:40] Yeah, Alex Albon was amazing, but unfortunately that no one
[3:44] had no one can fit in that second car Yuki Sonoda.
[3:47] But this guy's battling for for 15 place in in a in the same car
[3:51] that Verstappen's able to get to the top three like top two win
[3:54] races. So I think it's being proven
[3:57] that Verstappen is just driving a car that's built for him.
[4:00] Yeah, the only the only explanation.
[4:02] That's that's what ends up happening, but we'll see.
[4:03] We'll see how the rest of the season.
[4:05] It was like a Ronaldo Auve situation, like along he's he's
[4:09] carrying a bunch of bums to somewhat relevancy, you know?
[4:12] Yeah, that's not. Actually like and the the the,
[4:14] the club itself is actually like irrelevant Barbara, you know,
[4:18] he's making it somewhat relevant.
[4:19] It's. Actually, like Portugal, a bunch
[4:22] of bums. Well, not a bunch of bums.
[4:25] People, you dig yourself out of this one.
[4:26] No the. Team is carrying Ronaldo.
[4:29] The car is made for Verstappen. Put Verstappen in a in a in a
[4:32] Ferrari and he's finishing third, just like Leclerc.
[4:34] Yeah. Possible.
[4:36] Anyways, remember of Lavitch is going to hit 100 goals quicker
[4:39] than Cristiano Ronaldo and he hasn't even hit 60.
[4:41] Bro, you're actually a Twitter merchant.
[4:42] That is a I saw that this morning.
[4:44] That's crazy. I think I showed Varvar that
[4:46] yeah, that's. It's crazy.
[4:48] I'm the one that showed it to him.
[4:49] You're. Oh my God.
[4:50] Crazy. So on the topic of Juventus,
[4:52] they obviously lost against Manchester City. 52.
[4:56] Is the gap widening with other leagues?
[5:00] You tell me. It's it's, I mean, it's, it's
[5:03] wide. This is wide.
[5:04] The gap is, the gap is wide. Let's just say like.
[5:08] Great analysis, Varvar. Like like, do I want to say
[5:12] something stupid when I'll I'll just say it's like like Saturday
[5:18] night, like like dogged by like 3 people like that wide.
[5:22] Like, you know, like it's like, it's crazy wide.
[5:25] No need to be. There was no.
[5:29] It's a crater, you know, Like it's like, it's the gap.
[5:34] I think honestly, if you've got this man, I think I want to see
[5:36] where it goes. Yeah, I.
[5:39] Want to see where this ends up? OK, I mean, I.
[5:42] Think take yourself out of this one.
[5:44] Paula last year, last year, where would you Ventus finish in
[5:48] the prime or something that you said like 5th, 6th I'm you might
[5:52] have even said something stupid like top 4 potentially, but.
[5:55] Probably never said that. But I think you definitely would
[5:58] have said 6th or 7th. OK, let's just say I stand by.
[6:00] I genuinely think you would finish 15th.
[6:03] Thanks for your Thank you for your opinion.
[6:06] Manchester City is actually a very, very strong contender next
[6:11] season for the Premier League and we are comparing them to a
[6:13] team that did not compete for the Scudetto.
[6:15] Better or worse than Arsenal next year?
[6:18] I will say there will be a three-way title race for the
[6:20] Premier League next season. OK.
[6:22] So what would you split the odds out of 100 for each like
[6:25] percentage wise? 333333.
[6:27] That's and 0% for the rest of the league.
[6:29] Yep. OK, got it.
[6:30] Why you think you have a chance? No, but I mean A-Team like
[6:33] Newcastle or something, I would put them on like.
[6:36] I put them at a 0.2%. OK.
[6:39] You actually think Newcastle have a chance of being Liverpool
[6:41] or I? Think they have like a 5% chance
[6:43] or something like that, like it's very low, but they could
[6:45] happen. You know the.
[6:46] Historical season, yeah. It's just that every other team
[6:48] has done something except really Newcastle.
[6:51] Regardless, I say that. I say that because.
[6:53] You're saying is Chelsea have zero like 00?
[6:56] I mean, what do you think? I agree.
[7:00] I I say that because if we're comparing Manchester City versus
[7:04] Inter, by the way, we beat Juventus, beat Manchester City
[7:07] this season during the Champions League, which I'd say is a more
[7:09] important competition, but that was without Rhodri.
[7:12] I'm saying Man City is in good form with a very good team,
[7:16] which they just added 200 million worth of transfers to.
[7:18] Juventus didn't even start the proper front three that's been
[7:21] giving them success recently. It wasn't a good comparison to
[7:24] see that gap because Inter would have given Man City a much more
[7:27] difficult job and those are more our representatives of the
[7:30] league. Yeah, I, I don't know.
[7:32] This one was a tough, tough game.
[7:33] I Roger back. Man City looked like they were
[7:36] in very, very good shape. It seems that it's all coming
[7:38] together for them. UA obviously is still a project
[7:41] that needs to figure out what's their best formation, what's
[7:44] their best starting 11 and whatever, and new transfers as
[7:46] well. You guys need to bring a new
[7:47] transfer. So this this was a tough game.
[7:50] Maybe it was a bit more relaxed because we knew that both teams
[7:53] are going through. But I mean, I think I think
[7:57] we'll really see when it's like UV versus Real Madrid.
[8:00] I think that's. But then you won't be looking at
[8:03] the. Gap for the same thing.
[8:04] Yeah, it's like, it's more like, how far down are the clubs like
[8:08] Italian clubs I. Don't know what I was.
[8:10] Reading, that's what I would say.
[8:11] What I was reading is that like shoots were saying that Pep was
[8:14] completely revolutionizing his tactics and I see it.
[8:17] I don't know if you guys saw it, but I I found the way they were
[8:20] playing was was different than the old Man City of the past
[8:23] years. You got even I knew.
[8:25] Is working bro. No one informed me I've watched
[8:28] wolves this season. No one informed me I know we can
[8:30] be a fucking creative 10. No one told me that.
[8:32] You just don't know ball then, I guess.
[8:34] Brother, I thought it was Tijani reindeers moving the ball.
[8:37] Meanwhile, Tijani reindeers had a had a biggest.
[8:39] Irrelevant of the prep. He had the most irrelevant match
[8:41] I've ever. He was great bro.
[8:42] In the first half, he was probably the worst player of all
[8:45] 11 Man City players. I made that would have been the
[8:46] best event. Yeah, yeah.
[8:49] And I honestly thought he played very well.
[8:51] First off, I agree. Him and Roger, there's like a
[8:52] synergy there that I think is going to cook in the prime.
[8:55] And I mean, I'm I was surprised to not see Sharky.
[8:59] Like Sharky still doesn't. Miss a sit in, missed a freaking
[9:02] yeah I know. Bro, that little Meg that he did
[9:05] on the side, he's. A coms player.
[9:08] He's a coms. Also Holland.
[9:09] Subdon Holland, I apologize. I've been disrespecting you a
[9:12] little bit too much as of lately.
[9:13] Holland and Sharia no no, our defending would be too good for.
[9:16] Him Oh well Savona also stripped Holland multiple times.
[9:19] But Holland bro, we, we, we say like his forte's and then we act
[9:23] like the rest of his abilities are just low.
[9:26] They're not all of his abilities are better than 95% of strikers
[9:30] in the world. It's just the ones that he
[9:32] excels in are like at 100%. This guy's nuts to.
[9:35] Be honest though, like I was, I think I was talking to you about
[9:37] it. I just think Igor Tutor playing
[9:39] 1V1 Savon in Holland was just a recipe for a disaster.
[9:43] Get some experience in the. Brother, like what do you expect
[9:45] from Holland in A1V1? He didn't do bad versus Savon.
[9:48] He had a couple. Kalu had a disaster class.
[9:50] That's what really happened. But.
[9:52] What else happened? I just don't that wasn't UV
[9:54] strongest lineup. No, like at all.
[9:56] Why would you not play? You basically just accepted
[10:00] getting, yeah, you're getting just out of the tournament
[10:02] because you didn't go full forge like full force on Man City,
[10:06] knowing you lose to Man City, you play Real Madrid and you
[10:08] lose versus. I'm really disappointed because
[10:12] it gives UVA an excuse now, because now that UVA are gonna
[10:16] lose to Real Madrid in around the 16, it's actually gonna like
[10:20] Juventus fans will be like, oh, OK, we lost to Real Madrid.
[10:23] I really wanted to see them play like a Brazilian team.
[10:25] They would actually. Help you all, you may help you
[10:27] all they. Would have knocked out money.
[10:28] Like a Benfica, you know, like Benfica pushing a top four
[10:31] Premier League side to extra time.
[10:32] I'd really like using. 41 OK got it well they put you one time
[10:35] lost one of 4141 and. Benfica could have won that.
[10:39] Capriciani red card, Yeah. That doesn't help either.
[10:42] That doesn't help either. A red card.
[10:43] Millie Millie's generational wonder kid.
[10:45] Benfica could have won that game before the game finished before
[10:48] extra. Time but ended four one yeah.
[10:51] OK, actually, theoretically we can't talk about theoretically
[10:54] Liverpool got closer against PSG than Chelsea did we get
[10:58] overnight pika. OK, so the podcast this week is
[11:00] just going to be talking about results came Juventus 5 Man City
[11:03] 2 Juventus next Chelsea. He's actually 5/1 at one point.
[11:07] Chelsea good over that PSG 40 to Inter Miami.
[11:11] Inter Miami suck PSG good next. Bro we can't just look at
[11:13] results. We have a.
[11:15] Come out of that game. Yeah, we have a podcast, PSGR
[11:17] Good Inter Miami. He do suck balls.
[11:20] Yes, OK, we got that one. And Bro Vlavich does not.
[11:23] He's not helping himself the the performance he had even though
[11:26] he scored. Disaster.
[11:28] Well, if they got another year of that because he ain't
[11:30] leaving. Vlavich actually had for
[11:32] Vlavich's standards. He had a good game for his
[11:34] standards. He just post after the game
[11:35] where he. Should he?
[11:36] Should but actually. That's that's the loser
[11:38] mentality like you do not want someone.
[11:40] What did he say? He just posted a picture like
[11:42] Nueve brother you lost 52 you. You actually did not help the
[11:45] game at all. All I know the only take away
[11:47] like I said on the discord. Discord by the way, Patreon link
[11:50] down below. Shameless yieldies is fucking
[11:53] world class bro. I thought they were celebrating
[11:55] a goal after what, 5152 or they they scored that final like
[11:58] consolation goal and were. Celebrated.
[12:00] Celebrated, but yieldies. Didn't bro how did you lose 5-2?
[12:03] And you're not even like mad coming into this?
[12:05] Like like bro if my club lost 52 to Man City I'd be fuming like
[12:09] you have accepted the standards of your severely like dropped.
[12:13] I think that's that's being realistic at this point, so.
[12:15] We started a shit lineup. What did you bro?
[12:17] I'm I'm Man United, OK? We're absolute dog shit If we
[12:21] lost 52 to Man City I'm. Fuming Barber.
[12:24] We didn't start four of our best players.
[12:26] We didn't start our four best. Players.
[12:28] Your four best players will be Man City's worst players.
[12:30] That doesn't mean anything. Regardless, they're for us.
[12:33] Depends. It would for for us, Cambiaso,
[12:37] Turam, Yildiz, Bremer are our four best players right now.
[12:41] That changes a lot when we play versus Man City.
[12:43] I don't care if they're going to be Man City's worst players.
[12:45] But I don't understand why you go to it or even rotated.
[12:48] I don't get it bro, I don't get it.
[12:50] But Pep also didn't start Holland.
[12:52] Yeah, that's true. So I don't know, maybe the
[12:54] little gentleman's agreement, they said they spoke for the
[12:56] game out. You don't start Holland, I won't
[12:58] start my 3 best players because that's the equivalent.
[13:00] Yeah, just it wasn't overall EU Vase game.
[13:03] We'll see against Real Madrid, but do do this flies Guys are
[13:07] these guys are the attention, the attention span of these
[13:11] brothers are insane. I'm sorry my 2 second attention
[13:14] span is cooked but. Answers Milly.
[13:18] No way. We're stopping.
[13:23] Audio listers are probably like what the fuck is happening bro?
[13:26] This guy's dead if he comes near me, I swear.
[13:28] Put on entertainment. We'll be back in 2 seconds.
[13:32] Just million FC stocks are up on the day after and.
[13:36] Don't forget on today's YouTube page, on today's YouTube posting
[13:40] firms, FC stocks are getting liquidated right now.
[13:42] They're actually getting delisted.
[13:44] What's a YouTube? What do you mean?
[13:45] I was the at the end of the video, I I made an announcement
[13:49] that firms FC stock actually got delisted by how much it's it's
[13:52] crashing, right? Yeah, and how's Bubber stock
[13:54] doing? Oh, it's.
[13:55] All time highs. Oh, yeah, we're, we're actually,
[13:57] it's like, like like Donald Trump famously said, we're
[13:59] actually getting tired of winning.
[14:01] That's how much we're winning. When's the last time you won?
[14:03] I'm. Actually tired of When's the
[14:04] last time you won every single draft?
[14:06] Of. Darts Barber you support FC
[14:09] Barber you support 3 clubs this season.
[14:10] OK, None of them won a trophy. We're getting tired of winning.
[14:15] I'm so used to winning. I'm actually getting tired of
[14:17] winning. Supported 3 clubs, two of them
[14:19] being real. And and it's not and it's not
[14:21] like a trove and it's not like it was none of them more.
[14:23] It was like they were all crashed.
[14:25] None of them lost 5 to the Man City, by the way.
[14:27] No, they lost 50 to fucking. By the way, we were, I was.
[14:33] Me and Millie were watching the Inter Miami PSG game.
[14:36] You actually can't go 90 minutes nowadays without hearing Inter
[14:40] last five. Every time they brought it up
[14:42] like 4, like 3 nothing, 3 nothing.
[14:45] And it's like, well, you know, it's not as bad as 5.
[14:48] Nothing all back. History bro.
[14:51] That's a great segue into PSG beating Inter Miami dominantly
[14:56] Is MLS fraud. It's not even fraudulent bro,
[15:00] but it. Was a conversation we had
[15:01] because we were watching that first half and it was you could
[15:04] not believe the level that Into Miami were playing.
[15:07] It was at such a low level of football.
[15:10] PSG were toying with them for 45 minutes straight and I'm going
[15:14] to be honest a lot. There was a lot of
[15:15] self-inflicted mistakes that happened all with into Miami.
[15:20] But but the PSG didn't even look like they were trying.
[15:23] They did not look like they were trying and they dominate.
[15:25] I was telling this to Milly and while we were watching you both
[15:27] agreed the Inter Miami actually look closer to Auckland city
[15:32] than they did. To forget PSG, Al Hilao like Ali
[15:35] Lao genuinely look 10 times better than Inter Miami and you
[15:39] should you would probably compare MLS and Saudi Pro League
[15:42] should be around the same like levels.
[15:45] When I tell you that Inter Miami is the bottom of MLS.
[15:47] What do you mean the bottom of MLS?
[15:49] Inter Miami is not a contender. They're not they're not good,
[15:51] but it's because they're. Near the top of the Eastern
[15:53] Conference every year. They're not a good team.
[15:55] Looking at that team, that's that's not a good sign.
[15:58] No, but but again like. OK, forget Messi Bousquet so
[16:01] they don't know. It's quite good too, but but the
[16:03] back line was atrocious. I don't even understand how you
[16:06] could have a back line that ball.
[16:08] Watching, I think they were just an all six, one of them.
[16:10] Six this year. They finished first in the MLS
[16:13] last year. So, I mean, they're not a scrap
[16:17] MLS. Team, I'm saying this season,
[16:19] this season they're not. They're OK, but once again, you
[16:22] should Inter Miami should be like the North American Al Hilal
[16:26] level and Ali Lal are going 00 with Real Madrid no in the 90th
[16:31] pro it's. Because it's because they still
[16:33] have MLS level players in their team.
[16:34] Like like. And look at these players.
[16:36] Ali Lal doesn't have Saudi Pro League level players in their
[16:38] team. No.
[16:39] Yes they do. They have Saudi players.
[16:41] Yeah, but like that Saudi is actually a good competent.
[16:44] OK, yes. But that that's my point, is
[16:47] that Inter Miami like, forget men.
[16:51] Don't they have? Juarez, They have no players.
[16:54] They have two elder saris in their team.
[16:55] Yeah, the left. That's the entire that's the
[16:57] extent of their Saudi Pro League players.
[16:59] OK so I'm all all I'm saying is that I watched that game and I
[17:03] said I watched Inter Miami and I watched Auckland City and I said
[17:08] there's not much of a difference genuinely.
[17:10] Like they actually didn't even look like professional
[17:12] footballers. Yeah, but give you got to give
[17:14] credit to PSG, like everything they were doing is.
[17:16] Spotless yes, but it really was not that difficult for them.
[17:20] Like I really don't think Luis Enrique broke his head over like
[17:23] tactical setups and like pre match.
[17:27] It's working. PSG has the tactical, tactical
[17:29] setup setup like it's, it's been a whole season thing right now,
[17:33] like like. I I genuinely think a Brazilian
[17:36] team would smoke into Miami. This this tournament was eye
[17:40] opening to me as a North American fan.
[17:41] I thought MLS is getting better. No, we're nowhere near the
[17:43] fucking ball. No, like nowhere near.
[17:45] But there there was nobody saying that Inter Miami even had
[17:47] a chance in this game but to win.
[17:50] I agree to no. We knew because we watched Inter
[17:53] Miami in the game They. Tied.
[17:54] They tied, but before. The before the tournament,
[17:57] before the tournament, we would have said like I'm Palmera
[17:59] dominated that game by they. Tied.
[18:01] Oh, but I only look at results because my names were they tied
[18:03] the best team in Brazil. They they got dominated.
[18:06] And they beat Portal. Porto suck.
[18:08] Balls. Yeah, on it.
[18:09] There's one thing about this tournament is the Portuguese.
[18:11] Team suck balls, yeah. So they beat exactly.
[18:14] Well, biggest losers of this tournament are Argentina teams,
[18:17] Portuguese teams. And Jokadesh, because now I
[18:19] cannot rate your fucking sixty goal season that you did in
[18:22] Portugal 'cause I don't care, 'cause I.
[18:24] Do not care league well 22 or the three were were dog walked
[18:29] in the tournament. Unfortunately so, yeah, not not
[18:32] a good look for Inter Miami, not a good look for MLS as a whole.
[18:35] And honestly, we were, we were talking about this before we
[18:37] started recording, which we should have kept for the pod,
[18:40] honestly. But we were talking about that
[18:41] messy performance. Firms was saying that he
[18:43] actually had a decent performance later on in the
[18:45] game. But I, I, I genuinely think that
[18:48] especially in that first half, it, it was non existent.
[18:51] I He was a very he did not play well.
[18:54] But what you guys were saying is that you were expecting Messi to
[18:57] defend and throughout, no, that's.
[18:59] What we said No, that's not what we said.
[19:02] You're you're rewording what we said.
[19:03] No, no. Well, if you have, if you have,
[19:06] OK, Here. OK, I say your point.
[19:09] This I sat right here. Listen right there.
[19:13] You're gonna listen. Yeah, Yeah, you just, if you
[19:15] have fucking 25% possession, you know you're gonna go into that
[19:18] game with no possession. Lionel Messi, you will have to
[19:22] defend. I do not care.
[19:23] You're not gonna win a game with 75% of the game.
[19:26] Someone is not right walking. You are expecting Lionel Messi
[19:29] to defend. He has never defended his in
[19:31] his. OK, so then you're admitting
[19:33] Lionel Messi can't play top level football anymore.
[19:35] That's why you're admitting what?
[19:37] Firms he honestly, I'm not even asking him to defend, I'm just
[19:40] asking to like even just put a bit of pressure on the player
[19:44] that has the ball just a little bit.
[19:45] All the all the Ronaldo cups, I'm holding messy to the same
[19:48] standard. By the way, I'm I say Ronaldo
[19:51] defense is trash. He doesn't run Messy Abominal
[19:55] abominal performance messy. The worst messy performance I've
[19:57] ever. Watched.
[19:58] He is there to be a creative player high up the pitch he
[20:01] created. Useless.
[20:02] He. Created like .3 XG, .6 XG on
[20:05] target. He had two big chances, one big
[20:07] chance. When they're already down 4
[20:08] nothing, it means air there's so he did 0.
[20:11] Before it was 4, nothing 0. He did zero terrible.
[20:14] I think that's. Inter Miami as a whole, we're
[20:15] talking about how bad they are as a whole.
[20:17] How are you going to blame it on the guy?
[20:18] I'm not. Blaming it on one player.
[20:19] Suarez dog shit. Booze catch was dog shit.
[20:22] All the players were those. Catch was that fought for the
[20:24] third goal. But Messi did not look like he
[20:26] was a class above all the rest of the dog shit.
[20:28] He looked like he was part of the.
[20:29] Classic class above. Into Miami, yeah, he didn't
[20:32] look. He he looked like a regular
[20:33] Inter Miami I. Just said Inter Miami.
[20:35] It was a a horrendous performance.
[20:37] Messi, he's alright. He was you.
[20:39] You could watch that game and say Lionel Messi, yeah, you're
[20:42] you're a guy with the US men's national team, 4 caps and I
[20:44] would have been no, OK, makes sense.
[20:45] No, that's a little harsh, but it was more just, it was more
[20:48] just like he, he didn't pop off the page like he really did not.
[20:51] Expect he was a 37 or how old or old messy is.
[20:55] You cannot expect him to take over games at that age.
[20:57] You just you just can't. Yeah, but we're now.
[20:59] Looking at that standard. Contribute what?
[21:02] At least contribute because when?
[21:03] You have 25% possession, OK. Then off the ball, do just a
[21:06] touch. I'm asking just a touch.
[21:08] More You want to go get messy to make him defend in games where
[21:10] he has 25% possession. You want to get the wrong guy.
[21:13] Because you're not going to have 25% possession when you're in
[21:15] the MLS and you're into Miami, you're not going to see that.
[21:18] But when you're in the Club World Cup and you're facing
[21:20] against the PSG, yes, these players kind of have to play a
[21:23] different style than what they're in the MLS.
[21:25] Would you, would you sub him off?
[21:27] Like what what's, what's the argument here?
[21:29] Let's not play Messi. I do think there's backgrounds
[21:32] like behind the scenes stuff that we don't know about Messi,
[21:35] like maybe he needs to play these type, he needs to play
[21:38] these games, he needs to play a full 90.
[21:40] I don't know. OK, but but no you.
[21:41] Obviously start messy, but you tell him fucking start moving
[21:44] your ass when you're. Playing Oh my God, who do you
[21:46] think you're talking about bro? I, I, oh, there's two that's.
[21:49] Like Ronaldo, what, he's allowed to just fucking walk around the
[21:51] pitch, do fuck all and just wait for the ball in front of the
[21:54] net, No? So if he you're a professional
[21:56] soccer player Nowadays, professional football players
[21:58] play defense, top level players play defense.
[22:01] There's no fucking walking around bullshit anymore.
[22:03] We're not in the 2000s. Teams actually have to press
[22:06] nowadays. Do that, but Leo.
[22:09] Layout does not do that. He right.
[22:11] Layout I layout is lazy. By today's standards he's
[22:14] considered lazy. He runs 19 fucking way more than
[22:17] messy. But what I don't?
[22:18] Understand doesn't. Bikino was running right by
[22:21] Messy, like he wasn't even there.
[22:22] Like it was a home, like it was a training job.
[22:24] He. Can't please it's it's.
[22:26] But then But then why I'd? Rather 50 minutes of messy
[22:29] playing defense. You have 0% chance against PSG
[22:33] if you're playing with 10 men they had. 0% chance regardless
[22:36] of of if Like what do you no? But the Fogo.
[22:39] Beat them just by with It's not like but the Fogo have a a Rodri
[22:43] Holland but the. Fogo has a better team than
[22:45] Inter Miami. But that's they're a better
[22:47] team, yeah, because the team plays defense and they literally
[22:50] just played total this. Unit.
[22:51] All all they play is defense, but the fogo different tactics
[22:54] they they're. They're playing the same
[22:56] tactics. Realistically, there's 11.
[22:57] Players a manager and there's everyone in the staff and we're
[23:00] gonna blame the whole thing because Messi did it again.
[23:03] You're taking us as Lionel Messi, but you're also trying to
[23:06] take all the blame away from Messi.
[23:07] Lionel Messi was part of the problem today.
[23:10] I agree, but his job, that's like blaming A striker that you
[23:12] conceded five goals. You just blame the strike
[23:15] because. You told him to create.
[23:16] The guy had what, maybe 20 touches?
[23:18] 25 touches in this game. Yeah, 10 at half time, 10 at
[23:21] half chance bro. There was nothing in the first
[23:23] half. It was already 4.
[23:24] Nothing competitive. Am I able to?
[23:26] No. Because it was already 4.
[23:27] Nothing. Was it La Taro's fault that you
[23:29] lost 50 in the in the SCL final? I could, I could probably watch
[23:32] that game and say, OK, there were points, but I know La Taro
[23:34] was busting his ass to fucking get the defenders and get to
[23:37] that ball and press and try to do something.
[23:40] Messi, I'm sorry, those touches, what he had he I think he had at
[23:44] the end of the first half, he had like 14 passes and he had 13
[23:47] touches. Like those were CBMS behind
[23:49] those were just layoffs. Layoffs.
[23:51] But layoffs, they had 25% possession.
[23:54] How are you going to blame a guy for not touching the ball?
[23:57] I'm not saying the whole team was just not working.
[23:59] I'm. Not saying Inter Miami should
[24:00] have won. I'm not saying that Messi should
[24:02] have scored a fight. It sounds.
[24:03] Like you're saying, take out Messi and put like another.
[24:05] Kamaski But I do think that I do think messy.
[24:09] This is unfortunately a big competition for Inter Miami.
[24:12] This is supposed to be taken seriously.
[24:15] You kind of have to say, OK, this isn't the MLS, this is PSG.
[24:18] A lot of people are going to be watching this game.
[24:20] I should maybe play a bit different.
[24:22] All I'm asking, all I'm asking for Messi, is just a little bit
[24:25] of positional awareness. When, when, when Messi can do
[24:28] that. When you have Kante behind you,
[24:31] Rodri behind you. Team.
[24:33] Players behind you that can play with 10 men and it won't look
[24:35] that big of a difference. Not when you're fucking Noah
[24:38] Long at the back playing fucking center back and he he the best
[24:42] player he's ever played in his life is fucking K Kamara, Messi,
[24:45] Columbus Crew. Not like you can't do that.
[24:48] This was cardio. Didn't play by the way, whatever
[24:51] you just said. I know it's a joke and like it's
[24:54] there's no fucking player called Noah Long.
[24:56] Redondo and Busquets. I I don't even know you.
[24:58] You're expecting Luis Suarez. I'm not.
[25:01] And being a messy no no. Because.
[25:03] They were just I'm rewind 15 seconds, you just said I am
[25:06] expecting a guy with 25, you just said I'm expecting.
[25:10] No, no, you took that out of context, I said.
[25:11] I'm expecting this team to play differently.
[25:13] When you know you could play, you have 25%.
[25:15] You have Luis Suarez and Lionel Messi, they played A442.
[25:18] Messi was a striker so it's a shitty.
[25:20] Team. So it's a shitty team.
[25:21] This teams ass that was not. This teams ass and messy is part
[25:25] of the problem. Done.
[25:26] No, that's just part of the problem.
[25:27] The team is ass and Luis Suarez part of the problem and Boots
[25:29] Cats is part of the. Team is ass yes, and optimally
[25:33] if you have 10 competent players around Messi, yeah he can do the
[25:38] no run. Play better.
[25:39] Yeah he can do the less running on defence but Messi should be
[25:43] self aware and be OK. These ten players I'm playing
[25:46] with are absolute dog shit. PSG are just gonna run circles
[25:50] around this. You know what, maybe today I
[25:51] should maybe run just a bit. But.
[25:52] What I'm telling you is that Messi has never done that is in
[25:55] his entirety. Because he's always played with
[25:56] Barcelona, exactly plays with Argentina.
[25:59] PSG. So you're telling me today his
[26:01] mindset will change? So today in a club.
[26:03] World Cup game. I've won Champions League and
[26:05] I've won trebles and be absolutely real fucking.
[26:08] I'm gonna do something I've never done before and I'm gonna
[26:11] fucking stick my foot out when I'm getting ran out by Guzman
[26:13] Dembele. Because then if he made a if he
[26:15] made a personal choice, a business decision to not run
[26:18] anymore, to not make a tackle anymore and not, not just
[26:21] decided, you know what? I'm not gonna play football
[26:23] today. No problem.
[26:24] I'll give him the pass 'cause he's late.
[26:26] I'll. Play full 90 if he's defending.
[26:28] I'd rather against PSG I'd rather 1/2 of Messi playing both
[26:32] ways than 90 minutes of I'd. Rather waste the best creative
[26:36] player of all time, the. Game was done after the first
[26:38] half. He didn't even need to play the
[26:39] second need to play. But why not give credit he.
[26:41] Couldn't play 45I. Think we need to give credit to
[26:43] PSG here because PSG is just a superior team.
[26:45] They're the championship. Once again, PSG is exceptional.
[26:50] How do you give yourself the chance of beating an exceptional
[26:52] team is just by playing tetorizmo ball and playing good
[26:55] defense. Yes, Inter Miami cannot play
[26:56] Teto reasonable they. Didn't even try.
[26:58] They didn't. They don't.
[27:00] They don't have even the bench to play terror.
[27:01] Reasonable. They've never played.
[27:03] Type of ball they didn't try. They've never, you understand
[27:06] that, that Inter Miami is not a team that can play terrorism
[27:08] block. Brother, that's a cool way of
[27:10] saying MLS's level is nowhere near they're the only team.
[27:14] In the league that is set up the way they are.
[27:16] But bro, why does Ali Lau go play Real Madrid?
[27:18] Can actually kind of play Real Madrid off the park because
[27:21] they're a lot better. They also have a.
[27:23] Team that's worth way more than fucking any other MLS.
[27:27] You are always the fucking person saying you know what, MLS
[27:31] is going to surpass Saudi. The project is the way.
[27:34] Sustainable. Is more sustainable.
[27:36] Much more fun and most of the they have a salary cap so.
[27:39] What? Messi's still making 20 million
[27:41] a year midterm. Miami's the only team that
[27:43] doesn't have to follow this stupid salary cap because they
[27:45] have Jordi Alba signing for 90,000 a year.
[27:47] Bro there's there's a bunch of weird rules but regardless Ali
[27:50] Lal has nine of the 11 players that Ali Lal starts are top
[27:54] European players. Inter Miami probably have like 6
[27:59] or five players are not even taught MLS level players.
[28:02] MLS, OH. Yeah, sure.
[28:03] No, no, they're all MLS level players.
[28:06] Right. So even at this point, like Luis
[28:07] Suarez's and Sergio Busquets are MLS level players.
[28:10] No, they're MLS. Once again, you watch an MLS
[28:13] game and you go, wow, Busquets is dictating play you, you watch
[28:17] today and you're like, bro, this guy looks like a geriatric this
[28:20] guy. But that's the testament that
[28:23] the level credit level is not there.
[28:24] Too high, Yeah, these guys are are not at the top level.
[28:27] But once again, you're saying, I, I always bring this back to
[28:31] Saudi because Saudi a couple years ago when they weren't
[28:34] getting that heavily investing funding, you could probably say
[28:37] MLS and Saudi are probably neck and neck.
[28:39] Or you could argue even probably back that MLS global globally
[28:43] seen was probably a superior league to Saudi probably five
[28:47] years ago. Nowadays it doesn't even look
[28:49] like it's close. OK, I'll say this.
[28:51] If you put MLS and Saudi League in a in a joint 40, the 44 is
[28:56] all Saudi team A40A-40 team league.
[28:59] I say I'm Saudi. Get three of the four top spots
[29:02] guaranteed. 4 of the four guaranteed.
[29:04] OK, which four? Which one?
[29:05] Al Nasser, Ali Lal What Ali and Ali Tiad?
[29:09] I don't think so. Guaranteed regardless.
[29:11] K whatever 304404 I think the rest of the fucking teams are
[29:15] MLS in the top ten, no? Cause 'cause teams like Alkyl
[29:18] and stuff like that. MLS teams are set up well.
[29:21] They have good system. Inter Miami.
[29:23] There's good system. Yes, the badminton Miami.
[29:26] Sounders got fucking pumped every single game like this
[29:28] also. Seattle Sounders, MLS or no?
[29:30] Bro Seattle Sounders qualified because of four years ago like.
[29:33] Columbus Crew is a better team than them, and I said this
[29:35] before. Columbus Crew with with Wilfred
[29:37] Nancy as manager would actually put teams like you bro.
[29:40] Look at this. They got fucking put in a
[29:42] spliff. Yeah.
[29:43] And they they showed her nothing.
[29:44] To Vancouver white cops right before the tournament.
[29:46] They showed put up, got put in a spliff and then went home by all
[29:50] three games. All these teams will get
[29:52] destroyed. LAFC was lower.
[29:54] But they're 5th. It's not like you're talking
[29:56] about like they're fifth in the West.
[29:58] You're you're acting like they're, you're talking about
[30:00] like some fucking team that just qualified 4 years ago.
[30:03] And they're absolutely. Gone.
[30:04] But that's not the best that the MLS has to.
[30:06] Offer OK, once again you go play.
[30:07] You brought Columbus Crew to this tournament.
[30:09] You think Columbus Crew's putting up a better for
[30:11] instance, PSG? OK.
[30:12] Versus PSG is is unfair to every.
[30:14] Single, I said you meant. It that's what we were.
[30:16] Saying, though Union versus Juventus would not be an Al Ali
[30:19] 50 blowout, it would not. If you have a union versus it
[30:22] would. Versus you, it would not be A50
[30:24] blowout. It won't be.
[30:25] OK, but Al Ali is not a Saudi team once again.
[30:28] No, no, I'm just saying versus, I'm saying blowouts in the
[30:30] tournament like I'm Juventus, Al Ali or whatever.
[30:32] I don't know. I watch Inter Miami and Seattle
[30:34] Sounders. I'm going to put Seattle
[30:35] Sounders and I also I they're barely professional Inter Miami.
[30:38] Is a is a is a singular team in the ML.
[30:41] No team is other. No other team in the MLS is
[30:43] built like like Inter Seattle Sounders.
[30:46] We're dog shit. They also I watched them also
[30:48] and I'm like how are they professional?
[30:50] But they are dog shit in the MLS.
[30:51] Like like they're they're a mid pack team in the MLS.
[30:56] But once again. We're not talking about high
[30:58] end. They play versus PSG.
[30:59] Not only the high end and league earn the high end of the world,
[31:02] they the best team in the world this.
[31:03] Season they got the inter, Miami got ran off the pitch.
[31:05] I think PSG runs every single MLS.
[31:07] You are guys. I think you guys have truth to
[31:09] what you're saying, but it's just way too hard to get run off
[31:12] by Berta Fogo. They didn't.
[31:14] I get it. But that I do think that, again,
[31:16] that is an anomaly because we have seen PSG over the course of
[31:20] a European season and we agree that European football is at a
[31:24] different caliber to South American.
[31:26] Football, yes, but South American can still show up and
[31:28] say OK, we're here because that's.
[31:30] Porto and Porto lose to Inter Miami.
[31:32] But Porto's not a represent. I was speaking about this with
[31:35] Millie again. Porto are Porto, Benfica and and
[31:39] Salzburg. European showing here 'cause.
[31:44] You they had to it's a Club World Cup.
[31:46] They had to conclude from each nation.
[31:47] That's a different No, it's not. You didn't have to show from
[31:49] Manchester United and it just no, that's not what I'm saying.
[31:52] OK, how, how, how are they there and Liverpool's not there 'cause
[31:55] it was based on all coefficient, but that's a different issue
[31:57] completely. I'm saying I watched fucking
[31:59] Porto. Porto is a top four team in
[32:01] fucking Portugal and they Portugal is garbage to an MLS
[32:06] team. They're garbage MLS, bro.
[32:08] We watched we watched Porto versus Palmeras.
[32:11] That team looked like. Genuine ass like Rodrigo.
[32:15] Rodrigo Mora was Puerto's best player.
[32:17] What's the best? He might not even have started
[32:19] at What's the best thing in Brazil this year?
[32:21] Sporting. Brazil.
[32:23] Brazil. Oh, Brazil.
[32:24] Sorry, Palmera. Palmera.
[32:26] Palmera tied into Miami. They didn't.
[32:28] Bolt the Fogo beat. They might.
[32:30] They're going off for results. I'm going off of fucking what I
[32:33] see what I see. And I'll flip flop within the
[32:36] same portal. What do you mean?
[32:38] Sometimes you use your eyes, sometimes you use the result.
[32:40] You can't. Pick and choose you vent this or
[32:42] not Shit, we lost 5 two we got absolutely played out the park.
[32:44] But no, we're like you result, defend.
[32:47] The result was exactly what we saw about.
[32:49] Chelsea because if you watch the Chelsea game, which I know,
[32:51] 'cause we together, we didn't watch the game, yes, then you go
[32:54] look at replays and that Chelsea had a very strong chance of
[32:57] losing because of that bullshit 2 hour break that they took.
[32:59] They actually had a chance of losing in regular time.
[33:01] They were up 1 nothing until they stopped the game for two
[33:04] hours and then Benfica. Scored a pen and then you told
[33:07] me Wanker for. One ball where, by the way,
[33:10] might not even I shouldn't even be defending Chelsea could have
[33:13] not been a handball. So results work in that case,
[33:16] but I can't talk about results when it's Inter Miami.
[33:18] I understand anyway. Enter Miami.
[33:20] For me personally just is was not at the.
[33:22] Play PSG should not be a. Shitty team.
[33:24] Personally I think we all agree that enter Miami which is not
[33:27] good. Next, Next is not good.
[33:29] Next Club World Cup, if we wanna make the Club World Cup of like
[33:32] it was, it was, it's been pretty good, alright.
[33:34] But if we wanna make it like a serious tournament, well, like
[33:38] distribution of teams, we need of 32 teams, we need at least 24
[33:43] European teams. So that is not the Club World
[33:45] Cup. It is the.
[33:46] Cup with sprinkling some other no listen that Volvo
[33:49] specifically chooses 4 Brazilian teams, so no MLS teams.
[33:52] Actually, no. We'll do 22 European teams, so
[33:55] then we have 10 spots for the rest of the world.
[33:57] We'll do 4 Brazilian teams because they're actually decent,
[34:00] 2 Argentinian teams. So that leaves what we're at at.
[34:02] 28 Four teams left setting yourself up.
[34:04] We'll do 2 MLS teams. Oh no, we're missing the Saudi
[34:08] teams. 2 Saudi teams, one MLS team.
[34:11] You're you're, you're. We'll have one more spot left
[34:13] then the 1. You could pick a fucking
[34:15] Mammaloni, Sundowns or San. HD or so.
[34:17] Africa, Morocco, Egypt. These things should not be
[34:20] allowed, I'm sorry. Fuck all you guys, fuck all you
[34:23] guys, Asia. The one that like honestly Asia.
[34:25] Doesn't have a professional team.
[34:28] Asia up yours. Apologies to our audio list.
[34:30] Bro you're you're saying you're saying FU to basically the rest
[34:33] of. The world.
[34:34] Fuck the rest of the world. Right, so it's a Club World Cup.
[34:36] What the fuck? OK, so the world the World Cup
[34:39] we should just say fuck all the whole world.
[34:41] Yes. Oh my God, it depends.
[34:43] But World Cups, a bit different, but yeah, why is different?
[34:46] Because World Cup, we're actually like.
[34:48] These smaller nations. These Asian confederations
[34:52] actually have like, South Korea is not a bad team.
[34:56] Like, they're not bad teams. You can't pick and choose like.
[34:58] Egypt is a national team, is a very good national.
[35:01] The league is nowhere near the national team.
[35:03] Yes, I do think it both have to take I.
[35:05] Genuinely, like last week we were having a podcast saying how
[35:09] good of a success the Club World Cup has been because of these
[35:11] teams that we would not see or these matchups between the
[35:14] Brazilian teams and the European team.
[35:16] What has changed now We. Did it once.
[35:18] OK, so now the Brazilian team had a good showing.
[35:20] They've proven they can fuck with the big boys.
[35:22] Now let's give them four spots. Let's put them against the big
[35:25] boys. OK, so in four years when the
[35:26] Portuguese league is now those guys and the Brazilian teams
[35:29] fall off the Portuguese, bro, we should pick and choose.
[35:31] But you cannot pick and choose. That's not what I I I can
[35:34] promise you right now that old signage do not deserve to be
[35:40] here. But what's your definition of
[35:42] deserve? Because it's a science of of how
[35:44] good they are? Like what?
[35:46] What's? That why?
[35:47] Why are they there? Because it's a representative of
[35:52] Korea. Who are they representing?
[35:53] Bro? There's no one in the fucking
[35:54] stands. Who?
[35:55] Are they representing? They won some Asian fucking Cup
[35:58] and that's how they got there. But The thing is, there's.
[36:00] Only fucking two teams from there's Japan and there's and
[36:03] there's Korea. They have two teams bro.
[36:06] So let's give let's give Brazil 4, but Asia can only get 2.
[36:09] Brazil there. Brazil's level is at that like.
[36:13] There why? But it's a cycle thing, yeah,
[36:15] because. You did not.
[36:16] A cycle thing. It is like Porto is.
[36:18] That is lowest it's ever been. We can all agree on that.
[36:21] But you say that, but how many like?
[36:24] You put Porto 4 years ago, it's a better team already.
[36:27] They'd be. The ones that you're saying we
[36:28] should put 4 Portuguese teams exactly teams are on the radio.
[36:32] There's only three decent Portuguese teams.
[36:34] Ever big bro? There's only three decent ever
[36:36] Portuguese. And Millie was Wasn't that the
[36:39] Urawa game? Kind of interesting to see a
[36:40] Japanese team against an Italian one.
[36:42] But you could tell that they were nowhere near the level.
[36:45] What was the final score? The result once again.
[36:47] Result who won nothing but 1111 player one but like it was the
[36:51] play style. No 2/1. 2/1. 21 yeah, 21 sorry,
[36:55] 21 but that was like as if I was watching a Setiya game again.
[36:59] Not even versus leche. That's what it was.
[37:01] Not even city A, it was like it was like a couple Italian game
[37:05] where Inter got put against a City A cheat team.
[37:07] Like I remember the Monterrey game and I I think I was texting
[37:10] firms at the same time. I'm like, bro, this team is not
[37:12] even Seti B level. They they weren't at that level.
[37:15] We know that group shot that. I'm like this is Seti B level.
[37:19] OK, well, like it or not, people like like if you're trying to
[37:22] grow the sport in North America, it won't be by old Son HD being
[37:26] there. Well, listen, grow the sport in
[37:27] North America is one thing, but I mean, if this Club World Cup
[37:31] format wants to be successful, Yeah, you.
[37:34] Best need to play the best. The best Do someone need to be
[37:36] the flat? The only my only qualm I have no
[37:39] problem with these small teams playing in the group stage
[37:41] 'cause they get knocked out and. Then most of the big teams weed
[37:43] themselves exactly at the end of this.
[37:45] So I have no problem with that. The problem I have with the way
[37:47] that they selected teams is it was based on coefficients from
[37:50] God knows how long ago. Four years ago, Yeah, football,
[37:52] Libertadoris winners from four years ago or whatever people
[37:54] are. I know some fuckers going to
[37:55] correct me in the comments. Actually as the second.
[37:57] I don't give a shit bro. These teams.
[37:59] How the fuck did Juventus qualify?
[38:00] Based on what coefficient? From what year?
[38:02] Because you made rounded sixteenths for four years in a
[38:04] row and then it's like, OK, well, your coefficient.
[38:06] Time. Big fucking whoop.
[38:06] Yeah, big fucking whoop. Like that's why Portal made it.
[38:08] Should be based off of either the season of or the season
[38:12] prior. Maximum.
[38:13] Maximum. Why is Liverpool the winners of
[38:15] the Premier League not in this tournament?
[38:17] I don't know. What?
[38:18] How are our not in this tour? But at least Liverpool have the
[38:21] Premier League trophy to say that they deserve to be in this
[38:23] tournament if it's how are. Barcelona not in this
[38:26] tournament. Like what is the how long will
[38:28] you qualify for the World Cup? A season prior, right?
[38:31] No, well. I.
[38:31] Think it's. Over.
[38:32] It's leading up, yeah. But the qualifiers are now.
[38:35] Yes. And Italy, when they, you know,
[38:37] inevitably lose to the Norway in the group and then we go play in
[38:40] Montenegro in the in the playoff to make the World Cup.
[38:43] It'll be 5-6 months before the. Tournament I I would say, I
[38:46] would say then like on your point of view, it would be like
[38:49] our teams start playing qualifying games at a certain.
[38:53] Point. Yeah, you can't do that.
[38:54] Unfortunately, that would be a bunch of games because.
[38:56] Club football's too. Like they already packed
[38:58] schedule wise so then just base it off of the Premier League
[39:01] winner. You choose the Premier League
[39:02] winner from two seasons ago. They can't fall off that hard
[39:06] unless you're Man City. Unless you're Man City first
[39:08] season, but I mean, most of the time those teams at the top stay
[39:11] at the top, more or less. More most of the time there is
[39:13] no reason for Salzburg to be here.
[39:15] Like there's not. Even if you look back four years
[39:17] ago. What the fuck has Salzburg done
[39:19] in the last four years to be one of the European representative?
[39:22] Like they're Austrian champions but finished what, 31st in
[39:25] Champions League this season? Like the IT was very clear that
[39:27] they weren't at that level. Not even the best Red Bull in
[39:29] Europe. That's why.
[39:30] Like, it takes a bit of logic here from FIFA's POV or Uefa's
[39:34] POV, Like, like, you know, Salzburg, they'll deserve to be
[39:38] there. I know.
[39:38] There's there's something behind it all.
[39:39] There's there's there's some reason why you they had to base
[39:42] it off of super coefficients from from that time ago or
[39:45] whatever. Yeah, I don't know, but.
[39:46] Anyway, that's what I like to see next time.
[39:47] They just be more blatant, like transparent and show us who's
[39:51] getting selected based on what they did.
[39:53] They did, but like it's based on stupid stats.
[39:56] Like bro, Juventus was playing a random champions game in the
[39:58] middle of the season and they're like, if Juventus win this game,
[40:01] they make the Club World Cup. Yeah, everyone's like, why does
[40:03] this game decide if we make the club?
[40:05] I said yeah, game actually. Yeah, it was some crazy stuff.
[40:08] It was a. Random game in the middle of the
[40:09] season. But that game ultimately decided
[40:11] them in the Club Cup. Yeah, I, I think it was just
[40:15] crazy. But overall, the entertainment
[40:16] level of Club Cup has been good. I've been watching most of the
[40:19] games and I've I've enjoyed it and.
[40:20] It seems that I would have never watched.
[40:22] Like Brazilian teams are not tuning in, I mean.
[40:24] Yeah. And I'm liking it.
[40:26] And like the final game of the day today was Bayern versus
[40:28] Flamengo. Watching that game, like Bayern
[40:31] scores are you see Vincent company like actually
[40:34] celebrating the goals. Like you see, Harry Kane was
[40:36] celebrating his goals. It didn't feel like a friendly.
[40:39] It felt like an actual like all these there was a competitive
[40:41] match. Yeah, Bayern's not going to be
[40:43] in like they don't want to be embarrassed by a Brazilian team
[40:46] so early in the in the knockouts, you know?
[40:48] So like it, there's a level of competitiveness that I enjoy and
[40:52] that I'm I'm enjoying in the summer, which is cool to see.
[40:56] I have a question for you guys. Do you think this is going to be
[40:59] difficult to like get off and for you guys to understand is,
[41:02] is it, is the Club World Cup a tournament where we will see
[41:06] more embarrassments than we will like give credit for successes?
[41:09] Is it a tournament where you can only disappoint?
[41:13] In terms of like as a as a team, yeah, it depends.
[41:16] Will someone get glory for winning the Club World Cup or
[41:18] will a team get Oh my God I can't believe they lost to both
[41:22] the Fogo let's say. That's a good question.
[41:25] I think I. Don't know what you're asking, I
[41:27] don't understand the question. It's a very simple question,
[41:29] yeah. It's OK.
[41:29] No, I don't understand the answer.
[41:32] How do you not understand? It's either are you gonna shit
[41:34] on PSG because they lost to Botafoco or are you gonna give
[41:38] credit to Botafoco for beating PSG?
[41:40] Beta both. It is both like like you win.
[41:44] You win the Champions League, you bask in glory.
[41:46] No one no like the The hate that a team, the hate that a team
[41:50] receives for losing in a semifinal of the Champions
[41:52] League is not greater than the. If PSG go and play both the FOGO
[41:56] in the semifinal and they lose 1 nothing the same way that they
[41:59] did let's say in the in the group stage.
[42:01] I will know that OK, you give a bit of credit to both the FOGO,
[42:05] but I still know PSG is a far superior team than both the
[42:08] FOGO. I know, but let's say PSG, they
[42:10] beat Inter Miami, they go beat Bayern, they beat Real Madrid,
[42:14] they played Chelsea in the final and win the tournament.
[42:16] How much credit are we giving for that?
[42:17] Well, I think you do give them not.
[42:19] As well. But it's more than a leaguer in
[42:21] my opinion, no. It's tough, it's tough.
[42:24] It's the teams are at the end of the like their seasons.
[42:27] Bayern, Real, Chelsea to win the tournament.
[42:30] That's what I'm saying. I I feel like the tournament
[42:31] isn't respected enough where we're going to give credit to
[42:33] the but but these. These teams are playing they're
[42:36] they're like pretty like they're playing all strong teams.
[42:39] Yeah, full lineups. This isn't like, I don't know if
[42:41] you guys remember from maybe through four or five years ago,
[42:44] but like Internet International Champions Cup, that would happen
[42:48] in the States. It was like this friendly
[42:49] tournament that's kind of, it was almost the same like they
[42:52] would, they would invite like maybe 8 teams and I remember
[42:55] enter was in one of them and that's where we got embarrassed.
[42:57] But it was like that, that it was like a tournament, and the
[43:01] team ended up winning. In I've watched that live and I
[43:03] watched Everton versus Juventus. Yeah, that and that was an
[43:05] international Champions Cup. Like they try to make that a big
[43:08] trophy, but no one really took it seriously.
[43:09] I do think that this is something you you would
[43:12] obviously take a lot more seriously.
[43:14] Yeah, the money's there. You know what?
[43:16] I mean, money's there. You can make more than CL.
[43:18] Yeah, it's ridiculous. At the end of the day, it's a
[43:20] Club World Cup. That's a trophy that Real
[43:21] Madrid's been lifting for a long time.
[43:23] That's a trophy that Man City have been lifting for a long
[43:27] time, so and they end up getting a patch on their shirt like you
[43:30] know what I mean? So the question is legitimacy to
[43:32] it so. I have an updated question.
[43:33] If you're Real Madrid, well actually what's the team?
[43:36] Which if you're Inter, if you're Inter with no trophies and you
[43:39] win the Club World Cup, is it still a trophy less season?
[43:42] Yeah, well, no, because this technically counts as this
[43:44] season because you saw that the players like they they counted
[43:47] 41 goals for a. Trophy less season.
[43:50] OK, but they counted 41 goals for Harry Kane.
[43:52] Is that it's still a trophy less season it's.
[43:53] Vague. It's vague because technically
[43:55] they count this as this season. Yeah, the Community Shield has
[43:58] started the following season. Right.
[44:00] Yeah, this is still a 2425 season.
[44:02] And that's the first trophy of the Prem next season, and this
[44:04] is last season. If you win the trophy, it's it's
[44:06] a trophy. Like what's like, I don't know.
[44:08] I'm saying like Isaac Varvar won't value it as a trophy.
[44:11] I think this is greater than like a fucking community better.
[44:14] Than to win ceria or. Or ceria, but that's that's
[44:17] different. According to Powell's logic,
[44:18] it's not. But Ceria is 38 games.
[44:21] For PSG, is easier to win, but they wanted in.
[44:24] When did they win? In March?
[44:26] They wanted in March. March of this tournament,
[44:28] they're actually playing. They actually have to be Bayern
[44:30] Rail. I would be more impressed if
[44:32] Inter win win against Real Madrid, Bayern and PhD or
[44:37] whatever, then I would if they wouldn't say yeah, I'll be.
[44:40] More that's your opinion, but. That's like from a Football
[44:42] League, but. You just said it's not even a
[44:43] trophy. Yeah, because it this this
[44:44] trophy is just, I don't know, like it's it's fun to watch, but
[44:48] it's I'm I don't care. You just valued it more than
[44:52] than winning Syria, but yet you can't.
[44:53] I don't care about Syria either. K, but that's that then.
[44:56] Anyways, that's his opinion. That's it.
[44:58] That's just a hint. There so often that's.
[45:00] Just a hint, but I mean I I do count this as obviously it's a
[45:04] legitimate. Trophy.
[45:05] It's hard to win in a couple. This ends I'm just saying the
[45:08] Club World Cup that we all criticized from multiple like
[45:11] since before this year that we've all criticized.
[45:14] That's always been counted in in like a Barcelona quadruple or a
[45:18] sextuple whenever they won that trophies with Pep.
[45:21] Bayern I think won a club like their club with club during
[45:24] their sextuple that counted for one of their trophies.
[45:27] So you you can't say this isn't a legitimate trophy.
[45:29] Let me reword this. This doesn't make interseason a
[45:32] success. No, no, I, I, I mean, but, but I
[45:36] do have my criticisms. We all know that I have my
[45:39] criticisms. But this is a good let's call it
[45:42] a consolation prize for this, but.
[45:43] For Bayern, it helps a Byron. Season.
[45:46] Yes, it. Helps a mid Byron.
[45:47] It doesn't. It doesn't increase their
[45:50] standing in world football though it.
[45:52] Should I mean it? Should I?
[45:53] Mean it should, it's. No, it does.
[45:55] It doesn't. It doesn't make me think of
[45:56] Bayern differently as a club. OK.
[45:59] I mean, that's. But to me, if you're if you beat
[46:01] PSG and Chelsea and teams like this to get there, it definitely
[46:05] increases your stock. Well, it's a PSG.
[46:07] They're the ones that want probably want to win it the most
[46:10] because every single year that a Champions League winner wins the
[46:13] Champions League, they get a free run at the Club World Cup.
[46:16] Yeah. And then they just get every you
[46:17] see, every single CL winner get a patch.
[46:20] Yeah, the next year. Remember Real Madrid, Palmeras.
[46:22] Or was it city? City Palmeras.
[46:24] Palmeras. Which Palmeras actually played
[46:26] good that guy if I remember. I played well, but I mean Real
[46:28] Madrid have faced very sketch like yeah, fraudulent teams at
[46:32] the same time like, but they still get a patch like.
[46:35] PSG are the favorites, but if they don't win it, like I'm not
[46:38] going to say their their season is less, No, you know what I
[46:41] mean? Obviously.
[46:42] But if they win it, it's obviously like it's good.
[46:44] Cherry on the top, yeah. Literally we'll see once, once
[46:47] people, I think once people start with like the perspective
[46:49] of Varvar. I'm sure there's a lot of people
[46:51] that agree with him. Once the team, the games start
[46:54] going on, you see like a PSG, Bayern where it's a a fierce
[46:57] head to head. A game and.
[46:59] Then you see that with Real when or, you know, further into the
[47:03] rounds and even the final, like maybe people will start
[47:05] respecting. Yeah, just a prediction, I
[47:06] guess. I mean, we pretty much spoke
[47:09] about all the Club World Cup stuff, yeah.
[47:11] Now moving on to transfers, I guess we can start with the Joao
[47:14] Pedro to Chelsea because right before we started recording, you
[47:17] read you read a. Yeah, this February, Romano,
[47:20] February Romano needs to be investigated because there's
[47:23] definitely some Chelsea collusion going on at this
[47:25] point. His brother's tweet said excess
[47:29] of £50 million. Now you would think, oh OK, so
[47:32] some of them just checks Twitter casually, may just be like oh
[47:35] OK, they paid £50 million for him.
[47:37] So Chelsea management doesn't get ripped that hard.
[47:40] I'm sure there's a little payment on their table there or
[47:42] something because the fee was actually 55,000,000 lbs with
[47:45] five mil add-ons and Brighton still has a sell on clause so I
[47:49] mean pretty shitty deal if you ask.
[47:51] Where did you see these figures? Ben Jacobs reported them, who's
[47:55] like a reliable reporter. So basically that's £60 million
[48:00] including bonuses, which is what, 7580?
[48:03] No, €75,000,075, yeah, €5 million for.
[48:07] Gel Pedro and they have a sell on clause so let's say does
[48:11] actually do well and he goes to Real Madrid let's so they.
[48:12] Spend more than than Nicholas Jackson.
[48:14] Oh Oh yeah, weigh 3 times more. Nico Jackson was like 28, no?
[48:18] Yeah, and gel Pedro's wages are gonna be Premier League wages.
[48:20] They won't be 7 year contract too.
[48:24] Just I see, No, I see this is impossible to come out positive
[48:27] for Chelsea. Well, we can even add add vinyl
[48:29] gettins into the mix because that was also fifty £50 million
[48:33] also I believe. Yeah, our money is just.
[48:35] So, so it's crazy because you guys, if I were to tell you guys
[48:41] that Garnatals worth £50 million, you would call me
[48:44] crazy, right? Meanwhile, Garnatro has put up
[48:46] better stats than Vinyl Gittens in every year of his career.
[48:49] And he's actually, I think I believe he's younger still.
[48:51] So like I, I think I see these as terrible deals, both of them.
[48:56] Vinyl Gettins I think is a bit better of a deal.
[48:58] I'm not going to cap. I think vinyl Gettins is a bit
[49:00] better of a deal. He has more potential, but these
[49:02] are terrible deals. 1.5 billion later and Chelsea are pulling up
[49:06] with a front three in the Premier League of vinyl Gettins
[49:09] on the left, either the lap or JAL Pedro up top and Raul, Pedro
[49:13] Neto on the right. I don't know if they're going to
[49:15] play like that. I think this is like a Joao
[49:16] Pedro in the Cam situation. Like with what so front?
[49:20] Four No Cole Palmer's. Playing no but but it's like a
[49:23] 88 situation where drop edges on the left, Palmer on the right,
[49:27] maybe Madwick on the right, right.
[49:29] So I say those defending fucking the whole ocean behind them.
[49:33] But that's how Chelsea has been playing, no?
[49:35] Enzo Fernandez plays on the left.
[49:36] The top 8 exactly. Yeah, Enzo Fernandez is always
[49:39] going to keep his position. Gel Pedro is gonna play either
[49:42] striker or like, I think he's gonna, he's gonna replace what?
[49:46] And cuckoo. Are you talking about four in
[49:47] the Chelsea? One for Chelsea?
[49:48] Yeah, 4/1. 44231. 'Cause they can play a 414.
[49:51] No, but when when they're playing, it's like a 3241
[49:56] situation. But Enzo Fernandez is not gonna
[49:58] lose his spot. No, he's he's probably top left
[50:01] 8 or whatever you want to call that position.
[50:03] But but Cole Palmer's also not losing his spot.
[50:05] He's top right 8. So, and he's gonna replace what?
[50:07] And Cuckoo was in the squad. That's what he's gonna replace
[50:10] and be used a bit more. He's not going to play center
[50:12] mid. I don't.
[50:13] Think he's going to play Striker because Striker now they have
[50:15] the lap and Nico Jackson. So unless they're selling Nico
[50:17] Jackson, well, 1/3 Striker, what do you need?
[50:20] Like what's going on? I don't know.
[50:23] Chelsea is just very confusing. They're kind of a like.
[50:26] It's like they're doing something that none of us, well,
[50:29] what we think, none of us quite understand what they're doing.
[50:32] And like, it's like, wait, wait on me.
[50:34] Like yeah, they could say wait on me, but like.
[50:36] But like grow after 2 billion, you like, come on.
[50:39] No. Ones figured out you're it's
[50:40] like you're an evil villain and you have this big plan and you
[50:42] just keep working on it. No ones figured out what you're
[50:44] trying to do. Well, what is the end goal of
[50:46] this? Just have a bunch of loaned out
[50:47] players and you just you reel them back in whenever you need
[50:50] them. Not sure.
[50:51] But it's it's gonna hit at one point and then they're even
[50:53] like, look, we're geniuses. No brother, you just spent 3.
[50:56] Billion at this but and I hate Chelsea that's black is gonna
[50:58] say bro look at our project yeah bro you just spent more than all
[51:01] of said yeah combined over the last five.
[51:03] Years, but there's a lot of teams you could say the same for
[51:05] like like PSG. Exactly.
[51:07] Yeah, I have a PhD. Kind of hits on every single
[51:09] transfer that they've done, no? Most of them in the past two
[51:11] years Max. Yes, even that's what it was
[51:13] like early years. Like they have gone.
[51:15] Carlo Ramos who was a miss. Baraldo was 35 mil.
[51:18] That's a miss. There's a miss.
[51:19] There's misses. Callum Juani was a massive miss.
[51:21] Ugarte was a miss. Like bro called PSG.
[51:24] As long as you have money you can always get out of issues.
[51:26] Yeah, but like. But even Man City, we've shot on
[51:29] them all year for their their purchases.
[51:32] I mean, they spent 100 million on Vitorage, Kusanov and, well,
[51:35] Suzio, 30 Go Gonzalez, Nico Gonzalez.
[51:38] Like 150 combined on those guys like.
[51:40] There is misses in football where you're spending a lot and
[51:43] your team is not getting better. It just, it just very, it's a
[51:46] lot easier to sweep it under the rug when you got another 200
[51:50] million in the summer to spend and.
[51:51] Then when you win and everyone forgets about how much you
[51:53] spend. Exactly.
[51:54] But for me, Joao Pedro, like is he's a good squad player.
[51:57] Like if you could spend that money, spend it on Joao Pedro.
[51:59] Like to me, I'm not seeing a. £1,000,000.
[52:01] He's not gonna gonna be the main striker.
[52:03] But you're spending £60 million on a guy who you can't even
[52:06] like, you can't even say for sure fits into like your your
[52:10] squad. You could say that as a Cam, as
[52:12] a striker, he. Cole Palmer, he's not getting
[52:15] anywhere. Cole Palmer should be starting
[52:17] at least 80% of the games. Palmer will How much?
[52:19] Was my move so. 80 mil. 70 mil. If it's similar price, I think
[52:24] Omar Malmoush better purchase than.
[52:26] Bro this guy has less than 5 non penalty goals yeah.
[52:28] Well, Marmoush is more of a finisher, drop Pedro is more of
[52:31] a link up. It's like you're getting a
[52:33] different player. So if you're judging drop Pedro
[52:35] on scoring goals, then sure, it's a bad purchase.
[52:37] So we're. Spending 60 mil on a player who
[52:38] doesn't score more than 5 pen non pen goals.
[52:41] That's only. Scoring for Chelsea.
[52:42] Nico Jackson, ideally. Oh boy.
[52:44] And job you're saying? Oh, you're saying you're still
[52:46] on the job. Pedro over starting over,
[52:48] Palmer. No, no.
[52:50] So then how do you have a link of JAL Pedro with a Nicholas
[52:52] Jackson striker? Because.
[52:53] Because Chelsea play with two cams. 2, two.
[52:57] Yes they do. And it's 2 cams bro Angela.
[52:58] Fernandez has been playing as a Cam.
[53:00] That's like that's like saying like that's like saying that
[53:03] that Man City are not going to start reindeers.
[53:05] They're going to start Marmouche and and Cherokee and Cam.
[53:10] Like no, that's not that's they always you always have a center
[53:13] midge that's going to be a Barte crasher.
[53:15] You're not going to have Chi Sato just playing midfield
[53:18] behind 2 attacking midfielders. That's not how it's gonna work.
[53:22] I think I said it was that good that it could.
[53:23] But anyways, there's Reese James that's played midfield to help
[53:26] Caicero. Do they?
[53:27] Have a midfield 4 or midfield 3? Midfield 2.
[53:31] How many midfielders do they have?
[53:32] When like what do you mean? They play 4231 in the Premier
[53:35] League so they have 3 midfielders a cabin 2.
[53:37] Games, yeah, but when you're watching like it's three
[53:39] defenders, 2 midfielders, 4 like this, and then one striker up.
[53:44] Top yes, but the left one or Loki Cole Palmer's off single
[53:48] played a lot of four. It's it's a. 4 like it's a 5 up
[53:51] top. If you want to, whatever you
[53:52] want to call it, Noni, Madueke, Palmer, Enzo, you're going to
[53:55] get Pedro, Nico Jackson. You're going to get grilled on
[53:58] the counter. Now you have you have five with
[54:00] four defensemen. You have one player left.
[54:02] Yes, so Moises, Casero and then the three fucking defenders
[54:06] here. That's that's what I'm missing
[54:08] 134. 5:00 But you named 12 players right now, yeah.
[54:12] One this is 54. Not, not five, Yeah.
[54:16] Two in the middle, 3 here, 55. You're gonna get grilled 55,
[54:22] bro. You're gonna get grilled.
[54:23] What are you talking about? Chelsea are gonna get fucking
[54:25] grilled. Like not the football.
[54:27] I'm saying the football. Chelsea will get grilled.
[54:29] They played all year. They have no but but once again
[54:32] that that where you have Joao Pedro is meant to be a center
[54:35] mid like that's a center mid player.
[54:37] Enzo Fernandez and Dewsbury Hall, like the players that play
[54:40] in that position, are center. Fernandez played there.
[54:43] I don't care what it looks like. No, no, I'm just asking because
[54:46] you're you're trying to fit 12 players into 11 positions.
[54:48] No, no, no. 4231. How's it gonna look on FOM?
[54:50] Mom, You're gonna have Enzo Caicero DM.
[54:52] It's it's a 4231 whatever. You want and whatever, even if
[54:56] it's my own Gettins or whoever it is, Left wing Nicholas
[54:59] Jackson, striker. There's no jeal.
[55:00] Pedro starting, if you start Joe Pedro, you have to take out Enzo
[55:04] Cole, Palmer or a winger. That's the only way that a guy
[55:07] like. I don't, OK, I don't know if I
[55:09] said that Joe Al Pedro is starting.
[55:11] I don't think I said that he's starting.
[55:13] I'm just saying he's going to be playing in that composition
[55:15] where Enzo's been playing all year.
[55:16] That's what I've been so. What?
[55:17] How many? How many starts do you think he
[55:19] gets next year in the Prem for 60 million?
[55:21] Like how many starts? Enzo Mariska rotates his team
[55:23] depending on the competition. How many starts should he get
[55:26] next year if you're spending 60 mil on somebody?
[55:28] I mean. In the Prem with the Prem.
[55:31] How am I supposed to give you an answer on this?
[55:33] You give. If if if if you're spending 60
[55:38] mil on somebody, it shouldn't be to get 10 starts in the league
[55:41] like it shouldn't. But but Premier League like you
[55:45] should go, you should be getting more.
[55:46] So then Enzo Fernandez starts 10 games and you spent 140 mil on
[55:50] whatever the fuck the. Price have you seen how like
[55:52] they literally rotate an entire team when they played Cole?
[55:55] Palmer is gonna start 80% of the game, yes, that's Ja'al Pedro's
[56:01] main, like I would say the main place that he would play in the
[56:05] team. So already just off of Cole
[56:08] Palmer, you're going to get 20. He's not a left winger.
[56:11] He's not now. Now he's.
[56:11] Going to say so you might convert him into a.
[56:13] Winger he's not a winger, he's not a because the way that they
[56:16] play out wide on the left is that you need someone.
[56:18] That's why they went after Sancho.
[56:19] You need like an elite dribbler. Gel gel Pedro is not an elite
[56:21] dribbler. He's not vinyl Gettins, he's not
[56:23] Sancho. He's not like a well Sancho pro.
[56:26] He was an elite winger. Last, but this is all squad
[56:28] depth drop Pedro, I don't think you're. 60 mil on somebody who
[56:32] squad depth. Don't you say every week the
[56:34] Premier League has the money to burn.
[56:36] That is true. That's what they're doing.
[56:37] They're burning. I'm not saying that you should
[56:39] spend stupidly like this. This is all squad depth they
[56:42] have, OK? So then you should have gotten
[56:44] Cherokee for fucking 30 million at that point.
[56:46] But maybe Cherokee is not what fits in their plans.
[56:49] So Jao Pedro for £60 million is justified according to you
[56:52] because it's squad depth. If you have the money, sure.
[56:56] If I was Milan, I couldn't afford that.
[56:58] Because obviously that's so stupid.
[57:00] That's like, that's like saying Real Madrid can afford to spend
[57:03] 100 million on fucking a Hoylin. But because they have the money,
[57:06] that's fine. It's swab depth.
[57:08] Yeah, you can buy players that don't fit your team or are not
[57:11] good players, but if you have the money, it's fine.
[57:13] So it's such a stupid thing to say.
[57:15] No, because Joao Pedro fits the team.
[57:16] No it doesn't. We literally just outlined he
[57:19] doesn't fit the team. He barely starts.
[57:21] But you're talking about bad transfers being just bad
[57:23] transfers. No, no, no, wait.
[57:25] He fits the team, but it doesn't mean that he has to start every
[57:28] game. When we look back in seven years
[57:31] time, when his contract is done and he started fucking, probably
[57:34] less than 100 games combined in those seven years, is that gonna
[57:36] be a successful transfer or a bad transfer?
[57:39] It depends the impact on those 100 games.
[57:41] No where isn't cuckoo going too? Yeah, he's gone.
[57:43] So that's another sixty mil striker that can play with the
[57:46] Cole Palmer up top if we really need him.
[57:50] It's a failed transfer but Chelsea got money to spend
[57:52] right? So it's OK.
[57:53] But yeah, that's he. Squad depth.
[57:55] That's what they're doing. We literally just said you and.
[57:58] Cuckoo failed. Do these things so and cuckoo
[58:00] failed. 60 mil transfer failed. Yeah, let's buy and cuckoo
[58:03] let's. Buy and cuckoo 2.0 with less
[58:07] goal. Actually less goal
[58:08] contributions. I spent 60 million on another
[58:12] one and cuckoo 2.0. You know what?
[58:13] We failed once. Here's another one for.
[58:15] You that's that's on them for not learning from their own
[58:17] mistakes. But firm says it's justified.
[58:18] It's fine. Is that money?
[58:20] Because they have Man City. How much do we criticize?
[58:22] We criticize the. Yes, I ripped Nico Gonzalez
[58:25] transfer 'cause you don't need that player you 60.
[58:27] Million, you didn't need him, but you don't see on the when
[58:29] they're playing Club World Cup, you don't see them ripping.
[58:31] Oh, yeah. You know, they spent 70 million
[58:33] on this guy, or 60 million. On this guy have too much money
[58:35] to spend, but that doesn't mean that Nico Gonzalez Man United if
[58:38] we spend 60 million JAL Pedro five non pen goals I don't think
[58:42] I hear. The Let me understand for Man
[58:43] United, you wouldn't. Because your Manchester United.
[58:45] For Man United, Bueno Kunya, how are they fitting in Your Where's
[58:50] Bruno And I'm out now. Bruno played center mid all
[58:52] year, you know that. And I'm not played right wing
[58:54] all year, right wing back all year, you know that.
[58:57] I mean, not not all year he has played it.
[58:59] Played like right composition under Amrim.
[59:02] I think he has probably less than 7 starts or 6.
[59:05] And Bruno has not played CM next to Casimiro all year.
[59:08] He's played calm. When Amrim showed up he's played
[59:11] center mid. I would say at least 80.
[59:13] Percent. So would you be OK with a Bruno
[59:15] pivot with someone like, I don't know, Mino?
[59:17] Well, no. Is that what you're looking?
[59:18] Never the plan. So what's who?
[59:21] The the plan is the plan is obviously to have like a
[59:23] destroyer next to Bruno, probably out if that if that's
[59:26] Ugarte, then we're fucked next year.
[59:28] But like like let's just say a hypothetical destroyer next to
[59:31] Bruno with behind Cunya and then Buemmo on the right wing and
[59:35] then I'm at right wing back with.
[59:36] Doors Ahmad is going to be a right wing back.
[59:38] Yes. OK, No, no, I'm asking you're
[59:40] defending your that's a whole different conversation.
[59:43] Yeah, you're saying that Ugarte or whoever that may be going to
[59:45] next season is your sole bro? Once again.
[59:48] Once again we agree Man United, our dog shouldn't probably like
[59:53] I don't get the squad. Other than Bruno Ahmad and Euro,
[59:57] you can probably say that everyone else in the team is
[59:59] absolute dog shit and needs replacing.
[1:00:01] OK, OK, that will not all happen in one summer.
[1:00:03] So you need to pick and choose when changing his tactics.
[1:00:07] Cunya, Cunya's available, you buy.
[1:00:09] Cunya fits a left hand. Next you're going into next
[1:00:11] summer you're gonna be able to say OK, now we have Cunya and
[1:00:13] Buemo, Bruno, Ahmad, Euro. Now what do we need to fix?
[1:00:17] And that squad there. But that's assuming that old
[1:00:20] season. That's Jao Pedro.
[1:00:22] Can you look me straight in the face right now and tell me Jao
[1:00:25] Pedro is a significant upgrade on Incuncu?
[1:00:28] No. But so why not just keep in
[1:00:32] Kunku? And Kunku has failed at Chelsea
[1:00:34] right now. Do you understand that?
[1:00:35] And you're buying a player that's literally in Kunku 2.0
[1:00:38] and you're saying he's not going to fail I.
[1:00:40] Don't know Chelsea fans, I don't know what they think about in
[1:00:42] Kunku, but this season has been a flop in the he's barely played
[1:00:45] in the Premier League, but that's.
[1:00:47] Barely going to play. You're that's what you're
[1:00:49] saying. You're saying you just said the
[1:00:51] rotation games, but you're saying Madeska rotates every
[1:00:54] second game. So the rotation thing was in
[1:00:56] cuckoo this season and then cuckoo put up a any kind of
[1:00:59] cuckoo was amazing in a generation.
[1:01:02] Who's not generational against fucking FC?
[1:01:04] Noah sure, but in Cuckoo it was amazing.
[1:01:06] In the Conference league I've said bro, Cuckoo is my
[1:01:08] underrated. Scored 14.
[1:01:09] Goals this season, Jao Petro will have that season.
[1:01:12] Well, actually, no, because he's playing CL.
[1:01:14] Yeah. Not playing dog shit teams.
[1:01:15] This guy had less than 5 non. Penalty goals and he got a £60
[1:01:19] million gold catalog. It's all pens.
[1:01:21] It's all pens once again, too. Long on this irrelevant fast
[1:01:24] player with less than 5 non. We doing today having these
[1:01:27] conversations. There's a couple other transfers
[1:01:29] to go through. We could go through the you want
[1:01:31] to go through the city that ones or you want to you want to
[1:01:33] don't. Go through the small ones.
[1:01:36] So like Mosqueta to Arsenal, small 1.
[1:01:38] I actually like that move for Arsenal, by the way, we're not
[1:01:40] going to go deep into it, but Mosqueta to Arsenal, I actually
[1:01:43] like the move. I will say that actually a good
[1:01:45] transfer. How much 14 I well, they bid 14,
[1:01:48] but I think it's going to be close to 40.
[1:01:50] It's 14. Oh.
[1:01:51] It was like 25. It's.
[1:01:52] Going to be 20, I think it's going to be around 20, so that's
[1:01:54] a good deal for Arsenal. We're not going to go that deep
[1:01:56] into it. I think he's actually, yeah,
[1:02:00] that's what's really needed. All the bro Arteta insane.
[1:02:03] How the fuck are you still signing center backs and DMS and
[1:02:06] backup? Goalkeeper, but you can sign
[1:02:07] every fucking center back in the world.
[1:02:09] I will not give credit to the summer transfer window until you
[1:02:11] sign a striker. This is when firms comes in.
[1:02:13] And why are you signing depth? Squad depth?
[1:02:15] But you just said it's a good deal.
[1:02:17] So firms who's who's the backup? To saliba answer me is this.
[1:02:20] A good backup to Saliba is. This a good deal.
[1:02:21] Yeah, 20 mil though on squad depth, not 60,000,000 lbs And
[1:02:25] it's also but also it's a young player, but also drop edge is
[1:02:30] not young. Who's Saliba's backup center
[1:02:32] back? Saliba Yeah, well, Kivir's on
[1:02:36] the left, I guess. Yeah, So who's Saliba?
[1:02:38] Do you know? No one.
[1:02:41] OK. If they had an Inkuzu at center
[1:02:43] back behind them then you have the signing.
[1:02:45] Wouldn't make sense. Center back.
[1:02:47] If they if they had an anku level player at center back.
[1:02:50] They would keep him. Then it wouldn't make sense to
[1:02:52] sign Mosqueta, but there's an obvious place for him in the
[1:02:54] team. The mosqueta wouldn't be third
[1:02:56] choice, you would be second choice.
[1:02:58] He would doubt he'd be the clear.
[1:02:59] Vice How many how many games is he starting?
[1:03:02] For 14,000,020 million on a young player, he doesn't need to
[1:03:06] start 30 games this season. But Chelsea is you're spending
[1:03:13] 60. 6 mil on a guy you're not getting, you're not.
[1:03:15] You should not be getting 10 starts, which is what Jon Pedro
[1:03:18] will get in the league next year.
[1:03:20] We'll see. I don't know.
[1:03:21] I once again, I can't tell you how much he's gonna be starting
[1:03:23] because that's like if he starts more in. 10 I mean Chelsea's
[1:03:26] cooked so I don't mind if he starts more in 10 We can go into
[1:03:30] interbottle striker this week. Just a regular week in football.
[1:03:34] It seems like every summer at least there's at least 2-3 new
[1:03:37] inter strikers every year. Joanne Boney for 23 million.
[1:03:41] I know Varva is a fiend. Like I like him.
[1:03:43] I think it's my issue though, my only issue with the deal.
[1:03:47] And I told Millie this this morning I'm like why did you buy
[1:03:50] a striker? Like Millie says oh we need 4
[1:03:52] strikers but I mean this is another situation of Jao Pedro
[1:03:56] kinda like it is good squad depth.
[1:03:58] No, because it's not but. Why?
[1:04:00] But PO Esposito's pathway now it becomes a lot more difficult
[1:04:03] because a 23 million investment is not just going to get, it's
[1:04:06] not going to get minutes off the bench.
[1:04:08] It needs to get starts. I don't necessarily think so.
[1:04:11] I think I, I mean, I saw it personally last year when Turam
[1:04:15] was out for weeks on end for injuries.
[1:04:18] So you had a third striker. That's fine.
[1:04:20] Yeah. But then the issue comes that
[1:04:22] when that third striker doesn't produce like last season when we
[1:04:24] had Avanaltovich there, doesn't produce.
[1:04:26] Then you throw in a tad, I mean, doesn't produce.
[1:04:28] All of a sudden you you virtually only have 1 1/2
[1:04:31] strikers that could score Lo, Tato and Turam when he's
[1:04:33] healthy. This I feel like is much more
[1:04:36] well-rounded. Bringing in Bonnie who is
[1:04:38] clearly the third choice but he would be like a vice Turam and
[1:04:42] then PO could be a vice or vice. Has he's not gonna get enough
[1:04:48] play time next year for his development.
[1:04:49] If he's OK, like he has to agree with and if he's OK with with
[1:04:53] playing a certain amount of minutes and seeing a certain
[1:04:56] amount of game. Time.
[1:04:57] But bro, you're talking about development.
[1:04:59] I'm not talking about oh what's best for inter once again that
[1:05:02] you're thinking the Italian way. What's best for his development
[1:05:05] is not getting 870 odd minutes next.
[1:05:07] No, I think he should get over 1000 I would think.
[1:05:09] But then that's 1000 that you're taking away from Lotaro if he's
[1:05:12] vice Lotaro. Well, no, it would be like
[1:05:14] Lotado plays 7575 minutes you put on PO Esposito, that's PO.
[1:05:18] Esposito 3 That's 400 minutes. No, but then you throw on like
[1:05:22] it could be all right, definitive.
[1:05:23] Of development is linear. Development isn't just straight
[1:05:27] up like this. Sure, but but if he doesn't
[1:05:29] play. 800 minutes of City High level playing football next year
[1:05:32] is a is a stunt in his development.
[1:05:34] Yeah, but, well, that's also as. We said he should be playing
[1:05:37] more than 800. I think 1000 is already a
[1:05:39] better. #1000 you're taking away from AL Tower.
[1:05:41] How? Much no is is is pure.
[1:05:44] How much worse is PO Esposito? Like what?
[1:05:46] Like? Then a Bonnie, then Bonnie.
[1:05:48] But you just sign the Marcus throughout because.
[1:05:50] Let's say let's say Bonnie. Let's say let's say Bonnie gets
[1:05:53] two 1000 minutes next year and PO supposed to gets 1000 minutes
[1:05:57] next year. That could have just been PO
[1:05:59] supposed to gets 2000. Minutes but then if PO supposed
[1:06:02] to. And then you keep a teremi that
[1:06:03] gets 200 or no 100 minutes, so. You wouldn't spend on an an
[1:06:06] extra striker. I, I told Millie I would have
[1:06:09] signed the striker on loan, like a fourth option, third striker
[1:06:12] that you can think 20. 5 million to spend, Just do it like you.
[1:06:14] Spend it on another position, Yeah, but I could.
[1:06:16] See. There's there.
[1:06:16] Don't have? Shit ton of money to spend.
[1:06:18] There's gonna be games where what, which was one of our
[1:06:21] problems last year, was that we always need to start either
[1:06:23] Lotado, always need to start Tehran.
[1:06:25] You could not have played without both of them.
[1:06:27] You would not be scoring this, but you could throw on.
[1:06:30] You could start appeal with a Bunny.
[1:06:32] You could start both of them if you want versus whoever's play
[1:06:37] appeal. OK, now, now if you want.
[1:06:38] OK, we're gonna go into it next. We're gonna go into it won't
[1:06:40] score. No, I think we have a much
[1:06:43] better chance of scoring with these two than I'm not the we're
[1:06:45] gonna. Go into it. 1,000,000%.
[1:06:47] We're gonna go into it after, but I think you're you're much
[1:06:49] better off, let's say with like a John Duran on loan than and
[1:06:53] then a Bonnie spent 23 mil or 25,000,000.
[1:06:55] Whatever. But I do think Bonnie, he
[1:06:58] understands his role, that he may be like that, that second
[1:07:02] Tehran, like Tehran. I personally, I don't
[1:07:04] necessarily see him staying for more than maybe two or three
[1:07:07] seasons. Bunny is still a young striker.
[1:07:09] He's what, 21? Yeah, 21.
[1:07:11] So like, he obviously has time to still develop.
[1:07:13] And he had a very good season last season.
[1:07:15] Yeah, he's 20 years. Old now, he's very good now.
[1:07:17] I'll bring another alternative. You give PO, I suppose, to the
[1:07:21] the 1800 minutes or whatever. Yeah.
[1:07:23] And then you sign Jekyll as your 4 striker who has proven in the
[1:07:26] past that he works kinda in this interteam as a decent player.
[1:07:29] I. I what we know that from what
[1:07:33] I've read and from what I've seen, that's not the philosophy
[1:07:36] that enter want to take. Now with these signings, we're
[1:07:37] taking a whole new direction in terms of youth.
[1:07:40] It's a it's a youth. Youth need to play, to develop.
[1:07:43] No, not necessarily. But but also when Lovato
[1:07:46] Martinez, are you? Are you the the?
[1:07:48] Guy who wants to promote Italian players or you're just fucking
[1:07:51] you're you're saying glue them to the bench.
[1:07:53] Don't. You need a good environment.
[1:07:55] It's not about just starting like you.
[1:07:56] Need to play firms? I need to play, I agree, but but
[1:07:59] it's not about just. I'm not saying that he needs to
[1:08:01] start every game. 1800 minutes is not a lot of minutes bro
[1:08:04] that's fucking it's 15 starts like that's not a lot of games
[1:08:08] him. You have to start them in
[1:08:09] Champions League games. You have to.
[1:08:10] You have to start these. Guys OK, yeah, and I'm OK with
[1:08:12] that. But, and I do think that he will
[1:08:14] get starting time, but this is the for me personally, I think
[1:08:17] this is the best environment for him to grow because you have a
[1:08:19] Lautano Martinez and Turam who are two OK, you, you raise your
[1:08:23] head, but these are two some study has best strikes and
[1:08:26] you're studying under them. But then Kamada, you can say the
[1:08:31] same thing. He wasn't stunting his growth
[1:08:32] playing at Milan or some shit bro.
[1:08:35] Studying. Play.
[1:08:36] They need to play bro. You think college is going to be
[1:08:39] OK? Like when he was a teenager
[1:08:41] sitting behind that a big club? No, you want the fucking
[1:08:43] Salzburg. You want the doorman because he
[1:08:45] played. Really, strikers need to play.
[1:08:46] I know, but. We can learn.
[1:08:47] OK, but we have I've. The thing is is that I see the
[1:08:51] problem inter have. Sorry and.
[1:08:53] You're learning from LL Taro, it's not like you're learning
[1:08:54] from Luis Suarez Prime. Kendall Lottaro is probably a
[1:08:57] good player to learn from but or play with if you're the if
[1:09:00] you're the third striker, you'll get a good amount of minutes and
[1:09:04] you'll get that benefit of playing with Valtaro, playing
[1:09:06] with Teram, learning off of them, but.
[1:09:08] But it's not just. Training with them is not good.
[1:09:10] But it's not a clear 3rd and it's not a clear 4th.
[1:09:13] Do you understand? It's like 1A1B1C1D they they
[1:09:18] coordinate with each other. It's not like BIOS Pozito is is
[1:09:21] 4th on the pecking order. He's going to be many minutes
[1:09:24] behind the left can. He get next season.
[1:09:26] How many should he get? Yeah.
[1:09:27] Pios Posito. If he if he could get 1500 to
[1:09:30] 2000 minutes this season, I'm happy with it, then that is
[1:09:33] development. Once again, then you have then
[1:09:35] you have squad dynamics. You're gonna have a market.
[1:09:37] Sure. I'm getting pissed that he's
[1:09:38] only getting 2000 minutes. Then sell.
[1:09:40] Him because then we have a Bunny, we have a Pios posito and
[1:09:43] then you wanna get that fucking shitty Jack was the 4th go over,
[1:09:46] be my fucking guest. But I'm I'm much more confident
[1:09:48] with Pios Posito and Bunny behind as vice strikers then a
[1:09:52] fucking Arnotovich and Teremi that I'm sorry, I I can't
[1:09:55] believe that you're saying you know what, it's better to loan
[1:09:58] him out. Who the fuck are we gonna get?
[1:09:59] We have a player that start that is Setia level in our own
[1:10:03] backyard. Why?
[1:10:04] But we should be celebrating Inter.
[1:10:06] You're saying you're you're we should be celebrating inter
[1:10:09] keeping them and playing them and he will be not just keeping.
[1:10:12] Them, but he will be playing. He won't be playing enough in my
[1:10:17] personal. OK, you won't be playing.
[1:10:18] I I don't know. Bro when the season starts, when
[1:10:20] the season I start when the season starts and enter only
[1:10:24] playing one game a week for the first two months or whatever
[1:10:26] until Champions League starts happening and I see pios posito
[1:10:29] as fucking. He played 8 minutes off the
[1:10:31] bench here, 7 minutes off the bench here.
[1:10:33] Why do you will be like? Oh boy.
[1:10:34] And then and then. When we get the CL time and then
[1:10:37] he starts the season, he's gonna be like a bit rusty in the first
[1:10:40] games. Then it's gonna be like, oh,
[1:10:41] he's not the level. Required right in the first game
[1:10:43] that's going. This is the first two games and
[1:10:44] he started the second game in club.
[1:10:46] In Club World Cup. Where else is he supposed to
[1:10:48] play in? Ferrara what?
[1:10:49] Diamonds and fucking he. Didn't even start that game so.
[1:10:51] When the city. Started the fucking River Plate
[1:10:53] game. He started versus River Plate.
[1:10:54] He scored. River Plate, once again.
[1:10:56] I'm sorry, Gustavo. The level.
[1:10:57] Come on. I can't believe it.
[1:11:00] I actually can't believe what I'm.
[1:11:01] Hearing the level. So when do you want him to play?
[1:11:03] When the level is very high, like in champions.
[1:11:05] League, Yeah, play against the Real Madrid.
[1:11:06] Go play. My players need to develop.
[1:11:08] He's 19. He's good enough.
[1:11:11] He's good enough and he will be playing a lot.
[1:11:12] Of the game, he's good enough. You did not need to buy Bunny.
[1:11:15] You did not. Yes, but we are.
[1:11:17] I'm expecting Inter to play many, many games.
[1:11:20] And I said last season we ran out of gas.
[1:11:22] We ran out of gas. No one was scoring.
[1:11:25] Because you had two strikers? Because.
[1:11:28] The other two were fucking garbage.
[1:11:30] Literally in the Champions League final we were talking
[1:11:32] about this. The substitutions they made were
[1:11:34] atrocious. You did not like.
[1:11:36] Once again, you do not need. 4 you have need you have.
[1:11:41] Two positions. You have 4 players fucking that
[1:11:43] need a lot of minutes. You have 4 players that need a
[1:11:45] lot of minutes. Yeah.
[1:11:47] I don't care. I don't.
[1:11:48] I don't. Care between Lao Taro is not
[1:11:50] gonna sit on the bench and just be OK with it.
[1:11:52] No, but he's gonna start the big games versus the Real Madrid in
[1:11:55] the Champions League. Barcelona and the Champions.
[1:11:57] League. And then you think he's just
[1:11:58] gonna be OK with sitting on the bench for every game cap every
[1:12:01] week, Every week that there's two games he's just gonna be
[1:12:03] happy sitting on the bench for? No, I'm not saying it should be
[1:12:06] one-on-one off, but there's gonna be time management,
[1:12:08] there's gonna be game management, which we didn't of
[1:12:11] last season. 4 strikers though. It's that's what we that's why
[1:12:14] we've always ran. I know, but the four strikers
[1:12:16] always worked because two of them were OK with getting no
[1:12:18] minutes but now you have 4:00 and they all one you just bought
[1:12:22] so you need to give him at least 1500 minutes.
[1:12:25] He he has to be OK with how he plays like he has to be OK with
[1:12:28] how the team plays. I'm sorry that you agree the
[1:12:30] person giving. Bonnie 1500 minutes because that
[1:12:34] that's but he he proved in city I last year that he's not like
[1:12:38] some world leader, but he's a decent young player there with
[1:12:40] the right environment can can flourish.
[1:12:43] But when there's a little tower on term I had.
[1:12:44] A US poster, he's never played a Syria game before, OK, He
[1:12:47] doesn't know Syria at all, so he he needs the time on the field.
[1:12:53] He knows that. Place though at least but in the
[1:12:55] same situation as again. What if that helps their
[1:12:57] development? Yeah, what does that help your
[1:12:58] development? If you're playing.
[1:13:00] On the player, brother, if I see Piotr supposed to go on to alone
[1:13:04] to fucking Torino, Yeah, and someone that each is not even
[1:13:06] there anymore and he's playing with eight fucking bums that
[1:13:09] don't know how to service him. Yeah and everyone's gonna say
[1:13:11] Pios Posito is shit because he only scored four goals or
[1:13:13] whatever the fuck he scores because he gets no service.
[1:13:16] I would rather put him in environment.
[1:13:17] No, that's, that's a bad, that's, that's just bad loan
[1:13:20] management. Oh, now it's bad loan
[1:13:22] management. No, we shouldn't.
[1:13:23] We shouldn't just loan him anywhere in minutes.
[1:13:25] You shot 2500 minutes. Shouldn't just loan?
[1:13:28] Him anywhere I'm surprised you guys are saying this because
[1:13:30] we've seen it where Real Madrid where they buy a Kama Vinga for
[1:13:33] 60 million and he's he's on the bench while Cruz is playing and
[1:13:36] he's. Moving up played in his first
[1:13:37] season the most minutes for Real Madrid, so I don't get your
[1:13:40] point. How many before his art of?
[1:13:41] Glaire, his development stunted at Real Madrid?
[1:13:44] Yes. And now he's getting his starts.
[1:13:45] No he's not. We haven't fucking seen the Art
[1:13:47] of Glaire get his start yet. But shabby, Alonso said.
[1:13:49] It's. Three games into shabby Alonso's
[1:13:52] tenure, we can't definitively say he's getting his starts.
[1:13:55] And Rodrigo's not sold yet. Vinny's still there and Boppy's
[1:13:57] still there. I don't see where he's getting
[1:13:59] these starts. Well, listen, we're going back
[1:14:01] to Pios Posito. I'm saying that you bring in
[1:14:03] Kivu with the intent of playing your youth players.
[1:14:05] I'm I would be confident in going into the season saying you
[1:14:09] know what he would be? He would be able to pull a sugar
[1:14:11] and start appeal supposedly. So when La Tato needs to take a
[1:14:13] fucking break and not play against fucking criminis.
[1:14:16] But when we have a champions, how?
[1:14:17] Often. But once again, how many of
[1:14:20] those games are really come around the season games where
[1:14:23] they both come to start? It's 5.
[1:14:24] Or 10 will come, it's 5 or 10 games, but they will come and
[1:14:28] I'd rather pure supposedly to play alongside, but the other.
[1:14:31] Players on our team, the development for the for right
[1:14:34] now enter you're. Wasting my fucking time in.
[1:14:36] Circle 3, we got into three very like, I don't know, niche
[1:14:39] things. Well we'll see.
[1:14:42] These players are important anyways.
[1:14:43] I don't give a shit. They're all more important than
[1:14:45] Bonnie. That's Bonnies fucking hot
[1:14:46] garbage you should be playing on.
[1:14:47] Fucking no he's agree. No shit, it just wasn't needed.
[1:14:49] I agree. Shit, because MPO's posito
[1:14:52] should be starting. Yeah, no.
[1:14:53] Problem. Bonnie's good, PO's Posito's
[1:14:54] good. Yeah.
[1:14:55] It's just you're stunting the development for the maybe right
[1:14:58] now, maybe. PO's posito's just not good
[1:14:59] enough. Maybe.
[1:14:59] Shit, maybe he actually might be.
[1:15:01] Shit, and he's 19. We've watched.
[1:15:02] No, no, I didn't see anything shining with next.
[1:15:04] Player No, I think, I think Bonnie shit Bonnie and PO will
[1:15:07] do good. Yeah, yeah.
[1:15:09] So we're gonna split how many minutes?
[1:15:10] We're gonna split them four ways.
[1:15:11] Yeah. Yeah.
[1:15:12] Like a slice of pizza at a party.
[1:15:13] Yeah. No Ricci to Milan.
[1:15:16] Milan finally get their their target that you've been talking
[1:15:18] about. You want to see Ricci at the
[1:15:19] club 25,000,000, it's a fair price.
[1:15:22] I like it a lot and I've been saying we need an Italian corps,
[1:15:25] so I'm glad these these youth players are coming on our team.
[1:15:28] But I don't think he's like the the the game changer in midfield
[1:15:32] that we. Need didn't make up for losing
[1:15:33] radios and. Rocky, Johnny.
[1:15:35] Tell like whatever, it's more rain.
[1:15:37] Brushed out aside like you're acting like tails.
[1:15:40] Easily replaceable. No, hotel is not easily
[1:15:43] replaceable. He's still top left back in the
[1:15:45] world. But for me the the Rangers
[1:15:47] departure is the one that really hurt.
[1:15:48] Richie does not replace reindeers.
[1:15:50] I think it's a different position, but I mean, it's an
[1:15:53] Italian guy. He he's played and said yeah.
[1:15:55] Yeah, that's the good part of the Italian I.
[1:15:56] Like it? If it's good then the ultras.
[1:15:58] Are gonna love it they're gonna love he's a.
[1:16:00] Milan fan, which always helps. Well, it it just adds more
[1:16:04] confidence in in the team, in the management because you're
[1:16:06] bringing in a a high level Italian talent who he will get
[1:16:11] minutes at Milan, he will play. OK, I think he's a starter.
[1:16:14] No, he will. He will obviously get.
[1:16:15] Him to be starting, he should not, yet he should not.
[1:16:18] Brother, I don't think you know our midfield.
[1:16:19] Yeah. For fun, this is not.
[1:16:21] An another. I got your situation.
[1:16:22] This is like we have either Musa Bondo or Loftus.
[1:16:25] No, no, this is what I'm gonna get into is that you guys are
[1:16:28] still, you guys have Luca Madrich sign, Yeah.
[1:16:31] He's coming, too. You have Kafana already there.
[1:16:35] Those are the two you have now, Richie.
[1:16:38] And you're gonna sign Jashari, probably.
[1:16:40] Jashari Yoshaka. Yeah.
[1:16:42] So like all four players I'm assuming are going to be
[1:16:47] starters? Like the technical one joining
[1:16:49] as starters. Technical and moderate.
[1:16:51] Yeah, but moderate, you're not going to use a shit ton a minute
[1:16:53] and play them 90. Well, we're only playing a game
[1:16:55] a week, so. Yeah, exactly.
[1:16:56] But that's that's my thing is that like Richie and Falfana, I
[1:17:00] think are very similar players. Like they they're.
[1:17:03] Richie's like an anchor. Like, yeah, he's just, but same
[1:17:05] thing as Falfana. It's like you're meant to be
[1:17:07] like, I think. For an 8, like from what we've
[1:17:10] seen this season, he cannot play alone as a six.
[1:17:13] Yeah, especially even for Italy. Italy too.
[1:17:15] You. No.
[1:17:15] No, I'm talking about Fofana. Oh, sorry, but.
[1:17:17] Richie Richie could play as a six alone.
[1:17:19] He's played a. Pecorino I don't.
[1:17:20] It's a little, yeah, I agree. A little sketch, I do think.
[1:17:23] I don't know how, Allegri. He's gonna, he's not a chiseido
[1:17:25] like he's not like obviously, no, he doesn't cover enough.
[1:17:27] He doesn't. He doesn't.
[1:17:29] No, but he's a guy that needs the ball all the time.
[1:17:31] It he's gonna fit well in Allegri's fucking block, he's
[1:17:34] gonna like he's just it's a good signing.
[1:17:37] It's it's a good cheap signing and.
[1:17:40] The value is there, yeah, 20. Three mil is definitely good
[1:17:43] value yeah because but the issue is that it's so weird not seeing
[1:17:47] him linked to other teams like it it.
[1:17:50] Like he was linked to the. Back it's like a Gilchita
[1:17:52] situation, Like why? Why ain't other teams pulling
[1:17:54] triggers? I think cuz Milan moved ahead
[1:17:57] like a while ago. Like I'm talking about like 6
[1:17:59] months ago. It was already pre Agreed.
[1:18:01] Like Fabricio Romano has been tweeting about Ichi to Milan for
[1:18:04] for almost yeah since 8 months now.
[1:18:06] Yeah, exactly. Sure, but if a Man City were to
[1:18:08] come calling, he's leaving. But Man City was linked at one
[1:18:11] point. Yeah, but they went for Nico
[1:18:13] Gonzalez obviously instead of Ricci.
[1:18:16] Like, I don't know, I I some red flags there for bigger clubs not
[1:18:20] coming in. I was expecting into to maybe
[1:18:23] and investigate, but I guess they didn't.
[1:18:26] I don't know why, maybe they felt like Milan was already.
[1:18:29] I'm telling you, he's he's, he's been a Milan fan like in the
[1:18:33] open. So I think it was just the best.
[1:18:35] He's a very good player, just obviously needs a lot more time
[1:18:37] to develop. Yeah, he needs time to develop.
[1:18:39] He's young. Hopefully, hopefully you
[1:18:41] develop. But you develop alongside
[1:18:42] Modrich like you. It's just a good, good player to
[1:18:45] have. But you see that's that's a fine
[1:18:47] player to to sit because Modrus at this point, this is going to
[1:18:51] go back to the Lataro thing. Modra at this point is not
[1:18:53] expecting to start 35 games. So for him, that's a good player
[1:18:57] to be your vice, yes, because he's not expecting to start
[1:19:00] every game. And he's an obviously incredible
[1:19:03] player, an incredible talent. So sharing 2020 starts and 18
[1:19:07] starts, like that's a good player.
[1:19:09] That's a good environment to be in to share that position with.
[1:19:12] While Tower's expecting 32 starts, 31 starts.
[1:19:14] Yes, in a in a season that we play 60 games, yeah, I I would
[1:19:18] he expects to play 30 games. I expect him to play 30 games
[1:19:21] and produce. However, at near the end of the
[1:19:24] season, you saw that he was laboring like I'm sorry, I would
[1:19:27] rather have the insurance. And if PO sposer tells my
[1:19:29] insurance, I'm happy with that. He had that fat ass in the gym.
[1:19:32] No, he's not that fat. But.
[1:19:34] He's not at least 10/10 he. Just he's not.
[1:19:36] He's not he. Enjoys his carne asada.
[1:19:39] He's not fat, that's just not the technical.
[1:19:40] Player he is anyway PO is supposed to aside Next up.
[1:19:44] This might be a little bit of rage base for firms come out of
[1:19:46] that. On loan to Leche with some sort
[1:19:49] of 3,000,000 obligation, no buy option, buy million and then
[1:19:53] Milan have the buy option back for 4 million buyback, they have
[1:19:56] a buyback. What me and Volvo were debating
[1:19:58] is that that buy option. I'm saying that that buy option.
[1:20:02] The four mill takes precedence over another team that sweeps in
[1:20:05] and like a Real Madrid, that says off you 20 million.
[1:20:08] Guys, go slowly because we've been debating this off camera
[1:20:10] for an hour. The people aren't.
[1:20:12] You know, necessarily so. I will explain the transfer.
[1:20:14] Okay, so Kamara does like a well now 17, but he was like a hyped
[1:20:19] up all this guy scored 300 goals in like 100 games for Milan's
[1:20:22] youth teams like oh, this kids gonna be the the highland of
[1:20:26] Italy. OK, so now he had a tough first
[1:20:30] season, I would say for Milan in the first, but he's a 16 year
[1:20:32] old kid. I mean who?
[1:20:33] Can't expect my striker. But he he minutes were tough to
[1:20:36] come by and he's at this point where he's too good for the,
[1:20:40] let's say, like the, the the youth below.
[1:20:42] Yeah, but he's not good enough let's say or this is what Milan
[1:20:46] deem not good enough to start for Milan right now.
[1:20:49] So he's in the trick tricky situation.
[1:20:51] And strikers in Italy don't usually get loans, just dry
[1:20:56] loans. So they they thought that
[1:21:00] selling loaning him with a buy option to Leche for 3,000,000.
[1:21:03] So if Leche want to buy come out of that at the end of the
[1:21:05] season, let's say he has a good season, let you combine him for
[1:21:08] 3,000,000, OK Firms believes meanwhile, this is against UEFA
[1:21:12] rules, but we'll we'll just say Firms believes that if that buy
[1:21:15] option is 3 million and it's taken, Milan could just say no,
[1:21:18] actually we'll pay you a million on top of that 3 million and
[1:21:21] we'll just take him out of the back.
[1:21:23] But if he has such a good season, let's say he scored,
[1:21:26] let's just say he's generational, OK, like how he
[1:21:28] plays exact. He translates perfectly from
[1:21:30] youth football to senior football scores 20 goals next
[1:21:33] season in City and Real Madrid and Barcelona come calling.
[1:21:37] Firms thinks that no AC Milan have, well, God-given right to.
[1:21:43] Camarada I like. I have no facts to back that up.
[1:21:47] Like I don't. I don't think that.
[1:21:49] I'm just saying that in the eyes of Milan, if you're doing an
[1:21:52] operation like this, you know you have a gem as a striker.
[1:21:54] It makes no sense if that's not the case.
[1:21:57] That's what I'm saying. But there has to be some sort of
[1:21:59] gentleman. Rules.
[1:22:01] But no. But you can do anything in
[1:22:02] contracts. Like you can't the right it's
[1:22:05] this is against UEFA, the contract.
[1:22:07] UEFA will not accept the contract.
[1:22:09] It's something. On IGBT in a second.
[1:22:11] No, it's I'm, it's never been accepted.
[1:22:14] I've never been a Nico pass right now would be a Real Madrid
[1:22:17] player if that was so generally accepted.
[1:22:19] I've never seen a option to buy get taken over by another club.
[1:22:24] What do you mean? Like I've never seen like in
[1:22:25] this case, I've never seen this case.
[1:22:27] What the doomsday you're talking about?
[1:22:29] I've never seen it happen. Like a hijacking.
[1:22:31] Like a hijacking of a, of a of a buyback option.
[1:22:34] Yeah, I've never seen it. It it, it has happened.
[1:22:37] Contractually football is open-ended.
[1:22:39] You you could in the contract state automatic player agree in
[1:22:43] terms like you have to negotiate with Milan before going
[1:22:46] elsewhere. No, if Milan once next year
[1:22:48] Milan could offer 4 million and they'd be forced to accept it.
[1:22:51] Exactly. But that's not stopping Real
[1:22:52] Madrid from coming in with 8 million.
[1:22:54] But actually would say go join Real Madrid.
[1:22:56] I think they have the right of first refusal, like or first
[1:22:59] acceptance, whatever the opposite is, because Milan could
[1:23:02] like, Milan could activate that clause whenever they want, could
[1:23:04] be in January, could be in October.
[1:23:06] Yes, but that's not stopping Real Madrid from offering 8
[1:23:09] million. And then he has the choice
[1:23:11] between Real. But he will always have the
[1:23:13] choice. I wanna think once he, once he's
[1:23:15] a leche player, you cannot force someone to go to Milan.
[1:23:18] But but as it stands, he is on loan as a Milan player playing
[1:23:22] for Leche. Leche would need to activate the
[1:23:25] bottom. Of the clause.
[1:23:26] Either way it's it's up it it would be a lose lose situation
[1:23:30] for Milan if he has an absolute dog shit season.
[1:23:32] They could terminate. They could terminate the loan.
[1:23:34] Yeah, they could terminate the loan.
[1:23:35] Then you have a fucking player who failed on loan once and and
[1:23:37] it's gonna be a tough asset to get off of or not get off.
[1:23:40] Of he's gonna. Probably get a city of B loan or
[1:23:42] some shit. Like I think the standards are
[1:23:44] like we don't know how how good come out they will be.
[1:23:46] Let's say he's absolute dog shit.
[1:23:48] They won't even they won't even do the buy option.
[1:23:50] Yeah, they won't do it. So that's.
[1:23:51] All like doesn't even matter. Yeah, but let's say this is a.
[1:23:54] This is a scenario in which let's say he's very good.
[1:23:59] Let's say he's actually let's. Say he ends up being a top five
[1:24:01] goal scorer in Seria like. Whatever, that's crazy.
[1:24:03] He ends up being 10. Twelve goals, let's say 12.
[1:24:06] The buyback for four. Million, yes.
[1:24:08] For 3,000,000, no. No, no, I'm saying whatever.
[1:24:11] Lock the buyback for 3,000,000, three million hits next day,
[1:24:14] Milan 4 million. No.
[1:24:15] Milan own them, no? That's assuming Kamada says yes
[1:24:18] to the operation. But that's like I generally.
[1:24:21] Kamada's agent gets a call. Yeah.
[1:24:22] Real Madrid are interested, he's saying.
[1:24:24] OK. Ciao, Milan, Thank you for what
[1:24:25] you've done to me. I'm.
[1:24:27] Off to Real Madrid, I don't believe.
[1:24:28] I understand our management this shit, but I cannot believe
[1:24:31] they're they're been hyping up this.
[1:24:32] That's how product. To wager.
[1:24:34] Him to wager him for one minute. Is how it is.
[1:24:37] I'm not debating this. The player needs to accept under
[1:24:39] any case, It's not. This is not.
[1:24:41] This is not the 1930s where you can, just like it's not this
[1:24:44] isn't the NHL where you can just trade players.
[1:24:46] It's not. That's not it.
[1:24:47] But then, but then there must be in a great like I'm assuming
[1:24:50] Kamada and his agent or whatever his representatives are in the
[1:24:53] process of saying, OK, we're sending you to Leche online
[1:24:56] they're. Gonna play you because they're
[1:24:57] gonna play you. Potentially bought for 3
[1:24:59] million. You're gonna, you're gonna get
[1:25:00] playing time. We want you to develop with the
[1:25:02] goal of you coming back to Milan with SETI experience so that we
[1:25:06] could play you more. But then, OK, Amada's gonna ask
[1:25:08] Milan this more wages, The reason why there's and.
[1:25:11] Then you'll hit 12 million. We'll hit twelve goals in Seti
[1:25:13] on next season. And then Milan.
[1:25:16] No, I I will buy the buy option and we'll give you 40 KA week.
[1:25:20] Yes. OK.
[1:25:20] Sounds good. Milan.
[1:25:21] Real Madrid. Yeah, we'll give you 120 KA
[1:25:23] week. OK.
[1:25:24] Fuck you, Milan. I'm gone.
[1:25:25] I'm gone to Real Madrid. That's why that if you hit the
[1:25:28] ground running, that's how it's gonna.
[1:25:29] Work undercut someone like that. I just we've never seen it like
[1:25:32] we've never seen a player say like I'm, I'm contractually now
[1:25:36] with Lyche. OK, goodbye Real Madrid.
[1:25:38] What's up? He's now a leche player, he can
[1:25:41] decide where he wants. To notify Milan of this deal,
[1:25:45] that's yeah, sure. But then when Real Madrid offer
[1:25:47] him 120 K, Milan, you want to match that?
[1:25:50] No, I cannot. You know what the fuck you need
[1:25:52] for Real Madrid to call you and say 120 great bro Nico pass out
[1:25:55] a breakout season and Real Madrid.
[1:25:57] I don't know if I want to take the buyback.
[1:25:58] Real Madrid would have taken the buyback clause, but once again,
[1:26:01] Nico Pass is not accepting because he's not going to.
[1:26:03] Play, but you're assuming that leche I'll let you when they buy
[1:26:06] him. Who?
[1:26:07] He's never a free agent at any point.
[1:26:09] But if if Inter were to go to Como right now and say.
[1:26:12] Yeah, like it's. Like Nico Pats for 35,000,000 he
[1:26:14] would join into. Like apparently Nico Pats gave a
[1:26:17] yes to enter even though he's technically a Real Madrid
[1:26:19] player. We're not gonna get too deep
[1:26:20] into this 'cause it's just going on straight shit that we don't
[1:26:23] know about. No, I know this.
[1:26:24] It's not. I'm not debating.
[1:26:25] That there's Varvar, there's people that that that, that bro,
[1:26:28] we can admit when we don't know something.
[1:26:29] He read something on CHA GPD. Oh I know this, get the fuck out
[1:26:33] of here. So I'm saying I did this myth
[1:26:35] when I did. And FM is this is what you said
[1:26:38] you're recording. I play FM and FM is.
[1:26:40] Rarely. No.
[1:26:41] No. Just fucking no.
[1:26:43] Bro fucking. Fucking law.
[1:26:46] It's not you're. You're acting so fucking stupid
[1:26:49] like you're. OK, so Mr. Fucking Stupid me.
[1:26:52] OK, I'm wondering who the fuck owns Francesco Camarada in the
[1:26:56] time between Leche buying him. So how is Leche gonna buy him
[1:26:59] without a? Contract that Well, Mr. has
[1:27:01] agreed to a contract. But Real Madrid can call the
[1:27:04] 120K and then he fucks off instead of going to leche for
[1:27:07] three. Million, I think Leche buys him.
[1:27:09] Who owns him? Leche.
[1:27:11] OK, right now who owns him? Milan.
[1:27:12] Milan owns him right now. This whole season, who owns him?
[1:27:14] Milan. OK.
[1:27:15] Until, until they decide, OK, we're doing that buyback, OK,
[1:27:18] we're doing that. So no leche.
[1:27:19] Buys him OK. Yes, leche player.
[1:27:21] But he doesn't have an, he doesn't have a contract
[1:27:23] agreement with Leche, right? Well, no, once he once that
[1:27:26] purchase is made, I'm I'm assuming there's a contract
[1:27:29] agreed that you are now a leche. Player it's it's like a stock
[1:27:32] but if you buy RAM and. Call him and say they call
[1:27:35] Leche. Yeah, but wait, no, wait.
[1:27:36] During that period. During that period where he's
[1:27:39] signing for Liche, there's a contract where he has he has a
[1:27:43] time limit that maybe I don't know the time limit, but Milan
[1:27:46] could buy him back in that three years time limit for 4 million.
[1:27:50] You understand there's a time limit like in that?
[1:27:52] Contract in that contract that that Kamata says that we
[1:27:56] personal terms will be agreed with no with Milan.
[1:28:00] No, but they already have to that buyback you have to have
[1:28:02] written but the bucket. Cause will be on on the new.
[1:28:05] Why does the option to buy protect protect Leche, but the
[1:28:09] but the but the the buyback doesn't protect Milan?
[1:28:12] This is what I'm gonna say because the first.
[1:28:14] Obligation to buy. It's a pre agreed.
[1:28:16] Obligation. The option.
[1:28:18] The the option to buy is a pre agreed contract.
[1:28:20] Right now Kamata and Leche probably I'm saying this is 95%
[1:28:24] of the time it is true. They have a pre agreed contract
[1:28:27] that if I buy you it will be at this wage and everything like it
[1:28:30] would be pre agreed. Why doesn't Milan have a pre
[1:28:32] agreed contract as well with the with the?
[1:28:34] OK so you can pre agree a contract before he he fucking
[1:28:37] that's. What I'm seeing so no.
[1:28:39] So now it becomes it. Would not be OK so here let's
[1:28:42] say he's on 5000 a week. Leche says at the end of this
[1:28:44] contract, if you play well, we'll buy through three mil and
[1:28:46] the contract will be 10 KA week. OK, let's just say and.
[1:28:48] I I in reality he won't agree to a SO meal.
[1:28:51] I need to agree a contract on top of the agreed contract.
[1:28:54] So what if you have a good season, I'll let you, we'll give
[1:28:56] you 20 KA week and we'll buy you back for four mil.
[1:28:58] That's not no, they're not doing that.
[1:28:59] How I think, how I see it is more like it's a it's going to
[1:29:02] be a loan. This is simply just a financial
[1:29:04] maneuver. This is simply just a financial.
[1:29:06] Bonus to let you have to make him.
[1:29:08] Exactly 1,000,000 it's an it's practically $1,000,000 loan
[1:29:11] bonus we we've had to playing. It we've had the same situation
[1:29:14] with Colombo at Empoli last year.
[1:29:16] Same situation. No one wanted Colombo though.
[1:29:19] Same situation though, but no one wanted him.
[1:29:21] If Colombo hit fucking twenty goals then he would not be a
[1:29:24] Milan player the only. Reason the only thing firms
[1:29:27] yeah, I think he blowing it out of proportion.
[1:29:28] I don't think he thinks Milan staff are like the the idiots of
[1:29:31] all. Idiots.
[1:29:32] This is the stupidest transfer I've ever seen in my life.
[1:29:34] I think he and Million think that it's just a maneuver to get
[1:29:37] an an extra million secured for Leche if he becomes good.
[1:29:40] Yeah, I'm saying why not just make a dry loan with a cert?
[1:29:44] If he hits fifteen goals and said yeah, just choose an amount
[1:29:47] and say we'll give a $1 million bonus.
[1:29:49] Because maybe it's more guaranteed money.
[1:29:50] Yeah, it comes down on the balance sheet as a as a
[1:29:53] guaranteed amount, like no more millions.
[1:29:54] Also more like, what's the incentive for Leche to to
[1:29:57] actually play him? You know what I mean?
[1:29:59] Like at least. As they get a million bonus if
[1:30:00] he scores 15 goals for the 15 goals you do appear in bonus
[1:30:03] like you can grow Hoisen for AD Roma.
[1:30:05] When Juventus loaned Hoisen to Roma, we gave a an extra X
[1:30:09] amount of thousands for every appearance that Hoisen played,
[1:30:11] and Mourinho was basically forced to play Hoisen all the
[1:30:14] time because Romo's making all kinds of money.
[1:30:15] It's just like the 15, the 15 goals bonus would be like a it
[1:30:19] would be a disadvantage for Leche because say he doesn't hit
[1:30:23] that, then then it's just a dry loan.
[1:30:25] Yeah, like what if they still want to buy him but he only
[1:30:26] scored 14? I think there's so it's more an.
[1:30:30] Appearance. Maybe appearance would work
[1:30:31] better anyways. I think we're we're talking
[1:30:33] about shit that we don't even know you are.
[1:30:35] Above our knows. More no, you are knows yeah
[1:30:37] this. One I know.
[1:30:38] This one I know. OK, OK.
[1:30:39] Camarda. I would like to to have him stay
[1:30:43] at Milan because I think as just a development, he's a Milan fan.
[1:30:48] I think we need these types of players in the team.
[1:30:49] He's Italian, yeah, but I don't think he's a starter.
[1:30:52] What you need him to do next season is have a good season,
[1:30:55] not a great season because if the if he has a great season,
[1:30:58] he's not a Milan player anymore. No, I think that's great.
[1:31:00] Yes, it's. True bro that Milan can't
[1:31:03] compete financially. If he has he's going to be a 17
[1:31:06] year old slash 18 year old kid next year.
[1:31:07] If he scores 15 goals in City on next year there will be teams
[1:31:11] offering triple the wage of Milan and he will not be a man.
[1:31:14] I would have I would have been after he started from.
[1:31:16] Yes, I would have preferred him to stay at Milan, but the case
[1:31:19] is that he has no place because he is not ready to be a starter.
[1:31:22] Literally, he might be a starter.
[1:31:24] Lich is not a good attacking team.
[1:31:25] I don't know how it's gonna work, but it is what it is.
[1:31:27] We saw last season, yeah. Just see there was no space for
[1:31:30] him at all which is heinous because the the no space
[1:31:33] starting over him are are not that great.
[1:31:36] Because it's a win now mentality and developing youth like it's
[1:31:39] it's tough. But you don't win now, so it's
[1:31:41] like. It was a failure.
[1:31:42] For like like I was saying before, if fucking the guy at
[1:31:45] Kaliati, what's his name? Kurvatska Ikoli No no the the.
[1:31:47] Kurvitska Kur, whatever the Kristova.
[1:31:52] Yeah. Kaliati.
[1:31:54] No, he's at Leche. No Leche Kristovic or whatever.
[1:31:57] Oh, Chris. Yeah, Kristovic or whatever the
[1:31:58] fuck. I'm getting some with him, Pina,
[1:32:00] Monte or whatever. All these guys can get over 10
[1:32:02] goals instead. Yeah.
[1:32:03] Then there will be opportunities where Leche plays A-Team of Cali
[1:32:06] D level, let's say. Yeah.
[1:32:07] So like he'll have opportunities.
[1:32:08] I think he'll be good. Don't think of it just versus
[1:32:10] Lazio, Atlanta, No, for sure. Roma, whatever.
[1:32:12] The talent is there. And also Volvo, after this
[1:32:15] podcast, I'd be really curious to know why you're so sure of
[1:32:18] this. Like where where you got
[1:32:19] information on? Because it's fucking, it's law.
[1:32:22] You cannot it. This isn't.
[1:32:23] We aren't in the fucking slave trade like you.
[1:32:26] I'm not talking about that. Like you.
[1:32:28] You think that you players have no rights?
[1:32:30] Nowadays players have full control over every situation.
[1:32:33] But but you can. You're telling me that you can't
[1:32:36] You Can't you? Cannot you can't no, a whatever
[1:32:39] you want. Milan would have to have been an
[1:32:41] obligation to buy, but an option to buy OK does not leave you
[1:32:45] with I. Can write a contract right now
[1:32:46] alone with Milan. Where where on contract right
[1:32:48] now? Yes.
[1:32:50] No alone. Alone, he's on to.
[1:32:52] Another team you're technically on a contract with Milan,
[1:32:54] playing at a different team. Yes, but they have the it's like
[1:32:58] cover the pages so. Technically he's under contract
[1:33:00] at Milan until that buy option. Is listen listen.
[1:33:02] Activated. So it's like a stock, OK, you
[1:33:06] buy an option on a stock. OK at a certain.
[1:33:09] Point I I have the right to exercise my buy option?
[1:33:13] On that stock, yes. Until that specific date, yes.
[1:33:16] No one can feel it, but it's about a comparison.
[1:33:19] No the on the first one I no one can seal it.
[1:33:22] No second one buy option. No, the second one, if I say OK,
[1:33:27] I exercise the buy option, it's now my player, it's my stock.
[1:33:32] Yeah, I exercise the buy option. Milan now have a buy option on
[1:33:36] my player, but I can go and accept the bid from another
[1:33:40] player. You can't do that with stocks.
[1:33:42] Because because there's no pre agreed contract for come out of
[1:33:45] that to to what's it called? My, I don't know what his
[1:33:48] argument is. Mine is that there there's a
[1:33:50] protection, Milan included contractually a protection that
[1:33:53] makes it so that from the point that ledge argument.
[1:33:56] For that, that's just an assumption.
[1:33:58] You're thinking all these guys can't be stupid enough to do
[1:34:01] this, but they've proven many times that they're fucking
[1:34:04] stupid. OK, this is a just a stupid
[1:34:06] deal. If that's yes, yes.
[1:34:08] But that's not the case. Like I, I.
[1:34:09] You don't know. You, you.
[1:34:10] There's nothing for you to say. So let me understand when, when,
[1:34:14] when Furlani is in his management meetings, he's
[1:34:16] saying, oh, we have this good youth product that we've been
[1:34:19] trying to develop for the past three years.
[1:34:20] No, I, there's a lot of talent. How?
[1:34:22] What, what should we do? I think for Lani is going, oh,
[1:34:25] you know what? We have a we have a 17 year old
[1:34:27] here that's worth a bit of money.
[1:34:28] I need to have a cutting knowledge telling me I need a
[1:34:32] better dividend payment. I think that's a decent one to
[1:34:35] sell, right? 3,000,000 three million.
[1:34:38] Can't believe they're that. Yeah, no, they are.
[1:34:40] This is, I think it would be one of those things that like by
[1:34:43] option, by option and the buyback are agreed on the same
[1:34:46] day kind of thing, like there would be no room for Real Madrid
[1:34:50] to make a call. That's assuming Kamarda says I
[1:34:53] want to go back to Milan. And that's assuming that Kamarda
[1:34:56] has a fucking worldy of a season for Real Madrid to come calling.
[1:35:00] Like, I'm sorry. Real Madrid can't even swoop in.
[1:35:03] Exactly. If that, like if it's by option,
[1:35:05] if Milan agree, if Milan get a call saying from Leche and say
[1:35:10] rather we're gonna, we're gonna do that by option.
[1:35:12] Milan on the exact same phone call will say as soon as you
[1:35:15] send us the papers, we have our papers ready.
[1:35:17] Same for the buyback. Exactly.
[1:35:18] But when the. Transaction Kamada has to agree.
[1:35:21] But Kamada has agreed to this transaction in principle.
[1:35:24] He has agreed to going on loan to Leche with the with the
[1:35:27] chance of being bought by Leche with the chance of being re
[1:35:31] bought by Milan. So what's the wages on the
[1:35:33] transfer back to Milan? That's pre agreeing.
[1:35:35] I don't know. It has to be agreed right now it
[1:35:37] has to be. Agreed.
[1:35:37] It would have to be something that they agreed to in
[1:35:39] principle, I guess. Right now they would have to
[1:35:41] agree. Right now the contract would
[1:35:42] already have to be written. Sure, but I'm sure they could
[1:35:44] also sit down and then when he signs a contract extension.
[1:35:47] Electric contract No. No, but then if he signs a
[1:35:49] contract extension. Wages as electric contract it's
[1:35:52] just a wait for. Why would he do that?
[1:35:54] Guaranteed. Why would come out to do?
[1:35:55] That yes, but then, but then there's contract extensions
[1:35:58] after something like that, right?
[1:35:59] He could agree to a contract extension with Milan for a
[1:36:02] slightly higher wage or higher wage.
[1:36:04] Now he's a leche player. OK, there's there's.
[1:36:06] A lot of parties involved, like I generally do not believe that
[1:36:08] it's just the real winters involved.
[1:36:10] Yeah, Obviously the most complicated discussion we have
[1:36:12] on this podcast is come out of that to Leche.
[1:36:15] Yeah, but box to box, honestly guys today, if you got to this
[1:36:18] point in the podcast. God bless bro.
[1:36:20] You must really like box box because this this was a very box
[1:36:23] a box off camera debate. Bob, I just screenshot it and
[1:36:27] now. I'm putting it into chat GTT
[1:36:29] just to give you a next limit. OK, but we're done here.
[1:36:31] Yeah, so we're gonna. Be an off camera discussion.
[1:36:33] ChatGPT after One thing we are doing right after this is we're
[1:36:37] gonna be doing some predictions talking about the Club World Cup
[1:36:41] games that are coming up. We have Real Madrid versus
[1:36:43] Juventus, some other big matches, Dorman Monterrey when
[1:36:45] we predicting and talking about those on the Patreon.
[1:36:49] So if you want to hear more of us yapping, we're actually going
[1:36:51] to be doing an extended pot on the Patreon and a bunch of other
[1:36:54] content, extra YouTube content. So go check it out on our
[1:36:56] Patreon link down below. And that was episode 64.
[1:37:00] Holy Yap, Holy yap. I mean, listen, we might get an
[1:37:02] explanation on that Patreon for this.
[1:37:04] A lot of the talk I. Want to get a two person
[1:37:06] podcast? During this.
[1:37:07] Gracias, gracias, thank you for watching and I'll see you guys
[1:37:10] next time. Ciao.

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