# Chelsea’s Estevão Is the Real Deal?! Milan Juve Draw & Barça’s Struggles Continue | Box2Box 78

An episode of [Box2Box Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1743312473), 6 Oct 2025, 1 h 43 min.

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This week’s episode dives into another wild weekend across Europe. Chelsea’s new Brazilian wonderkid Estevão announces himself with a last minute goal giving Chelsea the win over Liverpool, while in Italy, Milan and Juventus cancel each other out in a tense stalemate that leaves the Serie A title race wide open. Over in Spain, Barcelona stumble once again, raising serious questions about their form and Flick's approach.MERCH IS OUT !https://box2boxclothing.comCheck out Sorare!https://sorare.pxf.io/vPqveA• Enjoy a €150 welcome offer on your first cards. The best way to kick off your season. New managers joining will benefit from 150€ spent+ 150€ offered** (generic offer is 100€)• Start playing right away: Early Access cards are already live. Build your team and compete from day one of the season with less competition on leaderboards• Spot the rising stars: It's the perfect time to scout smart. Players are giving their all to impress their coach, and it's your job to pick the right ones.• New features, more rewards: From boosted Hot Streaks to fresh gameplay twists, Sorare 26 is packed with new ways to win this season.**50% off - valid on purchases up to €300. Terms apply🎁 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/Box2BoxShow📺 Main Channel: @box2boxshow 📸 Instagram: @box2box.show🎵 TikTok: @box2box.show🎙 Meet the HostsVarvar – @varvar_b2bFerms – @fermini_Pala – @luca.palazzeseMili – @amilizianoTIMESTAMPSINTRO: 0:00FOOTBALL TALK

## Transcript

[0:00] Welcome back to the Boxer Box podcast.
[0:02] This is episode 78 and Chelsea with the last minute dagger
[0:05] against Liverpool is Arne Slot on the hot seat.
[0:08] And Juventus versus Milan ends in a draw.
[0:10] The city, our race is tighter than ever.
[0:12] And our Barcelona mid. All that and more on the Boxer
[0:15] Box Podcast. Vamos you.
[0:18] Ain't going home your. Honor, I'm sorry, Your Honor,
[0:22] I'm. Sorry, I'm also on the pitch.
[0:49] Boys episode 78 and honestly this weekend I watched the shit
[0:53] ton of football. We were blessed this weekend.
[0:56] I watched. A lot of football.
[0:58] Sports wise in general, to be honest.
[1:00] Playoff baseball as well. True.
[1:02] Being a sports fan is the best, honestly.
[1:05] I know nobody out there. Nobody won't.
[1:06] Nobody listening to this isn't a sports fan because you're
[1:08] listening to a football podcast. But bro I feel bad for.
[1:11] Them there are motherfuckers that don't watch sports.
[1:13] Have you ever met like this? This perplexes me, and this
[1:16] really makes me believe that we actually do live in a world with
[1:20] NPCS. Like there actually are.
[1:22] Like some, some people actually don't exist.
[1:26] Like they're just there because it's like rendering.
[1:28] Like they render in. It's like mobs in Minecraft,
[1:31] like they just render in because you're there.
[1:33] Holy narcissism, yeah. So it's like, so, so like, have
[1:37] you ever met a guy where you're, you're, you met him for the
[1:39] first time and you're like, oh, do you follow any sports?
[1:41] And they they just say yeah. You walk away from that
[1:43] conversation like what? Too much brain power for you?
[1:45] I just don't understand. You do it, you're like.
[1:48] Oh, OK, Nice to meet you. But don't.
[1:50] You're my first cousin. I've never met you before.
[1:52] Oh yeah, bro. He's from Italy, obviously.
[1:54] Yeah, of course. Oh.
[1:55] Yeah bro, I don't watch sports. OK, Ciao.
[1:58] OK, it's crazy. But what the fuck do you do with
[2:01] your life? Bro, there's other things to do.
[2:03] With his other interests. Go for a hike, go fly fishing.
[2:06] I can do it really. And watch my watch Man United
[2:09] lose on Saturday. Some people, some people maybe
[2:11] just didn't grow up with that, I don't know.
[2:13] Yeah, but I find it crazy that you're sheltered that much like
[2:16] where you're, you don't even care.
[2:18] Like we, we live in a, in a hockey city, you know, and you
[2:20] don't even care about hockey. Like I understand maybe football
[2:23] or whatever. Baseball, OK, who cares?
[2:25] I know, but do any of your moms watch sports?
[2:28] OK. But we're talking about
[2:29] obviously, like we're not going to bring up genders.
[2:31] Obviously women follow. And obviously, I mean sports
[2:34] holy, holy. Sports are inclusive.
[2:36] Holy pyro Holy. Pyro it's not.
[2:38] Tightrope. It's not tightrope.
[2:40] It's obviously it's inclusive, like women follow sports as
[2:44] well. It's just disproportionate
[2:45] amount of males compared to females that follow sport.
[2:48] OK. Is that not true?
[2:49] OK, I'm sure. Yeah, maybe.
[2:51] You're on thin ice, buddy. Yeah, very close.
[2:53] I'm not even comments. Just a fact, comments get them.
[2:56] Get them we're we're nearing that time, but I feel.
[3:00] Like everyone could follow a sport, but like.
[3:02] There's a sport for anybody. There's a there's a small time
[3:04] frame in beat like I think we're nearing in it.
[3:06] Yeah, we're all five major sports are going to be happening
[3:09] at the same. Time it's.
[3:10] During the last Tennis Open, I think we still have Roland
[3:15] Garros. We're saying five major sports
[3:18] bro. Get the fucking tennis out of
[3:19] your no respect. No, no, no.
[3:21] That's a major tennis. That's.
[3:21] American speed. Bro when he said five major
[3:24] sports he means like the I'm North American.
[3:27] Didn't center play today? Then who?
[3:29] Center Did he play? There is it when the Shanghai
[3:31] open. I don't fucking know you.
[3:32] I know just whatever. We're we're speaking about.
[3:35] Baseball. Hockey, football.
[3:36] Yes he did. He lost soccer.
[3:38] OK, but it's the sitting catch that?
[3:40] Rolex. Soccer and football.
[3:41] No, no, no. But I'm not saying about tennis,
[3:44] I'm just saying there's the last tennis major in at the end of
[3:47] October, Yeah, and no, and the beginning of November, there's
[3:50] F1 at that time and it's where the seasons cooked, like it's
[3:53] heating up 'cause there's like what, 6 races left?
[3:55] Seven races left. There is football where football
[3:57] would be in game week 7/8 or something probably.
[4:00] Deep into the season. There's the MLB playoffs.
[4:03] Yeah, Football's back from international break, brothers.
[4:06] Every single sport happening. Hockey just started October.
[4:09] October is the go the go time. Oh man.
[4:11] It's perfect because yeah, they timed it well because winter's
[4:13] coming. Everyone gets a little bit
[4:14] depressed because winter's coming, weather's changing, but
[4:16] you can close you up and watch literally every sport in the
[4:18] world. I've I've we're we're how many
[4:20] weeks out from Halloween? So we're three weeks out now, 4
[4:25] weeks out almost. So guys, I have a question for
[4:28] you guys leave it in the comments.
[4:30] I'm trying to I want a good Halloween costume this year so.
[4:34] Our video. I went for our Halloween
[4:36] specials the past year. I went as 10 hog where I shaved
[4:40] my head. I did R9 where you shaved your
[4:43] head where I shaved but I left the the little Crescent.
[4:46] There the little shit in the middle.
[4:47] So really guys like there's no barriers here.
[4:50] You can leave any suggestions, no any physical.
[4:53] Related Football. Physical physical honestly not
[4:56] believe related. I would like more football
[4:58] recommended ones but it could be like.
[5:00] Balled again. I'm not saying necessarily, but
[5:03] if you guys leave some good good, if there's a good one
[5:05] there, I will actually really keep it po po po.
[5:09] Po po. Good luck.
[5:11] But now. Antoine Griezmann can pull that
[5:13] one off. That's what he does.
[5:14] Knack. I guess so.
[5:17] No. I mean, yeah, you always go hand
[5:18] with the with the October. Yeah, the festivities.
[5:21] Yeah, I mean. Look forward to it, but ideally
[5:23] football related. Yeah.
[5:25] Somebody leave a comment for all four of us, what each of us
[5:28] should be. What about Knock?
[5:29] It's gonna be good. You guys are never gonna do it.
[5:31] Fuck, you guys are cheating. Every Halloween.
[5:33] Every Halloween it's a you show up as like a police officer or
[5:36] some bullshit. Guys, come on.
[5:37] This year we gotta put in some fucking epic shit about.
[5:39] Halloween. You're the only one that cares
[5:41] about, Yeah. Bro Jurgen Klopp.
[5:43] You. That was good.
[5:44] That was good. It only worked Millie showed up
[5:47] with a pair of glasses and called it a day it.
[5:49] Worked bro, even hit the. He showed up with a Liverpool
[5:51] hat, a pair of glasses and called it a day and the.
[5:54] Cluting and simplicity. The clip of him doing this,
[5:57] yeah. It went viral.
[5:58] Triple platinum. Triple platinum, Triple
[5:59] aluminium. Bro, you shaved your head for
[6:01] nothing. He yeah, he put a, he put a
[6:03] scarf on it. He went viral.
[6:04] Bro that was that was a disaster control that day in my personal
[6:08] opinion. I'm not shaving my head.
[6:10] Yeah, you don't need to shave your head bro, but like, put
[6:12] some thought into it. Don't show up as fucking
[6:13] Superman you. Put no thought in the.
[6:15] Problem with that. Yeah, sure.
[6:16] No, thought you just. Shaved your fucking head, it
[6:18] called it. You're at a Brazil kid and
[6:19] shaved your head. You put a Brazil kid that we
[6:21] already own. A lot you shave your a lot more
[6:22] effort than what's the effort. Paying your Barber a couple more
[6:26] dollars. It was he did.
[6:27] It for free. I went for, instead of paying
[6:30] what you guys do, I went through actual physical pain.
[6:34] Pain, sacrifice, Yeah, physical sacrifice instead of monetary.
[6:38] I, I'm, I'm fully committed now. Are you guys as committed to the
[6:44] 'CAUSE this year? But you commit some bitches.
[6:46] For real bro, not to it that one.
[6:50] I saw people in discord they were hitting.
[6:52] They're catching on to the Gets Ambitious train.
[6:56] That's always a classic, the best one.
[6:57] Yeah, anyways, get some football.
[7:00] Football. Yeah, Chelsea 21 to Liverpool
[7:04] and honestly just might as well add it in because there was
[7:07] Champions League last week. Galatasaray 10, also beat
[7:10] Liverpool. So Liverpool 2 losses in a week
[7:13] start looking good. Very poor run of floor.
[7:15] Looking good. From the Reds, yes, it's
[7:17] shocking. It's shocking considering what
[7:19] the expectations were coming into this season.
[7:21] I don't think anyone was expecting them to even lose
[7:24] games. The way people were talking now
[7:26] they lost two in a row and this one is is definitely something
[7:30] that you have to keep in mind. Like brother Chelsea, this was
[7:32] not a full strength team. To say not even lose games is
[7:35] kind of crazy. There were conversations.
[7:37] But undefeated. They were very close last year.
[7:40] If I'm not really. No, no, the bar should not be
[7:42] undefeated, but the bar should be when Chelsea don't have Cole
[7:45] Palmer. For sure.
[7:47] Should be winning. Should be winning yes or drawn
[7:48] Agree the Galtas right? No choose absolutely.
[7:52] Galtas right. Respect Galtas right.
[7:54] Good team this season but but you should not be losing.
[7:56] One, all the players that came in, no excuse, yeah, like I
[7:58] think the standards for those players are quite high and they
[8:01] deserve the price tags they got to start delivering.
[8:03] So the conversation becomes you've spent over 300 million.
[8:07] Should RNA slot even be considered on the hot seat at
[8:10] this point? Or is I'd sack his ass right
[8:13] now. To be honest.
[8:13] For me I've never been the biggest RNA slot fan personally.
[8:17] Last year he definitely had them rolling but for me that was more
[8:21] of like he literally just copy pasted Klopp's homework.
[8:26] It's like like he just took Klopp's team and put a bit of
[8:31] his flavour on it and said OK, this is our team now and he did
[8:34] very well. Now he's put in too much of his
[8:36] flavour on the team and the team's becoming doggy.
[8:39] But once again. This is a recipe too much.
[8:40] Exactly. He's he's trying to change the
[8:43] tactics, but he has so many new players coming in there.
[8:46] It's it's only normal that he's going.
[8:47] To so many new players. He had like 4 new players, No 5
[8:50] new. Players, that's that's a lot.
[8:51] For it, there's meant to be starters too.
[8:53] Like, it's not like they're just support pieces.
[8:55] And also again disagree, this is very reactionary because Modeska
[8:58] is the one that beat him and you said.
[9:00] Madeska Oh, but OK, this was a battle of the fucking bald guys
[9:03] who should legal Loki have pressure on their job.
[9:05] Madeska did an an absolutely amazing.
[9:08] Job once again, I said last week, bro, if you wanna sack his
[9:11] ass, sack. His But then this week you sat
[9:13] down Sack. Them all bro, all El Salvador is
[9:16] that. But before we started recording,
[9:17] you said no. I mean, you don't really need a
[9:19] sack. Confident going to play
[9:20] Liverpool? Why?
[9:22] You know how asked? You need to be managing
[9:24] Liverpool. For me as a Man United fan to
[9:26] say I'm low key confident going into, that's just reactionary.
[9:30] I disagree. I think a lot of the United fan
[9:32] base is confident. It's not about United.
[9:33] Obviously the team, the performances haven't been good
[9:36] for Liverpool, but I think it's just a matter of bro at the end
[9:40] of the day. Even what happened with Yoga
[9:41] Jota definitely affected the one. 100% to it after the game,
[9:45] but once again, you can't really like he said, it's not about
[9:49] what happened on the pitch, but it's also what happened off the
[9:52] pitch. But we don't know 100% in
[9:54] effect. But like that could have been
[9:56] also alluding to other stuff that for sure pitch.
[9:58] Maybe some players are not concentrated off the pitch or
[10:00] something like that. Like he didn't specifically name
[10:03] Yoga Jota, which was everyone's assuming he's alluding to, which
[10:05] makes sense, but I don't know this team.
[10:08] Like they just look disjointed. Like it doesn't look like a.
[10:12] I never thought about that that actually effects that that
[10:14] affects like bro, like the guys that were there like I'm not
[10:17] talking about verts any sack, but bro, that's like a friend on
[10:19] the team. But I'm not even I don't think
[10:23] that as much as a factor as bro, you have to give slot some slack
[10:26] at some point. Sure, he spent a lot of money,
[10:28] but he hasn't had consistent starting elevens.
[10:31] He's still trying to figure out where verts plays and seems like
[10:33] the best spot for verts is on the bench at this at this exact
[10:35] moment. But I think Gagpo a left wing,
[10:38] he keeps trying to rotate him out for the players that he
[10:40] spends a lot of money on. But Gagpo still seems like he
[10:43] should be a mainstay left wing. He's always he's always been
[10:45] good there. E sorry, E actually started a
[10:47] TK. It's like a TK left winger.
[10:49] Bert's Cam Sobos like Cam Sobos like right back.
[10:52] Bro, you're trying a million different things, but why are
[10:55] you trying different things like because you have two players had
[10:57] a winning? Formula so many world class
[10:59] players it's it's just like Real Madrid, you have so many world
[11:01] class players you don't know where to but you.
[11:02] Had a winning formula like this is literally what Ancelotti did
[11:06] when he brought in Mbappe. Like you had a winning formula,
[11:09] why go and fuck it up now? An Ancelotti is not there
[11:12] anymore. It might work for the next
[11:13] manager. It's not going to work for you.
[11:15] But what did you say? What did we all say?
[11:17] If you have the opportunity to get ESAC, you get ESAC.
[11:19] Yeah, but that's not me and Ancelotti's mind.
[11:21] If I'm Ancelotti, I'm saying why?
[11:23] If it's not, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
[11:24] Yeah, but also let's not compare ESAC to Mbappe, but yes.
[11:27] Of course not, but brother, at the end of the day, they needed.
[11:30] To compared ESAC, to not compared ESAC to Mbappa, you
[11:32] said ESAC was better than how we're stretching what I've said
[11:36] now we're. Distract Millie.
[11:37] I mean no, but it's fucking ridiculous.
[11:41] Better than Holland last season? Oh yeah, probably never better
[11:45] than Mbope though bro. But.
[11:47] Holland's better than. The fucking records that I need
[11:50] to pull up right now. The records.
[11:52] Comments will do it for us, don't worry.
[11:53] Yeah, sure. I I dare not.
[11:56] I dare. I challenge find it.
[11:58] I challenge someone to find me a clip where I said Isaac is
[12:02] better than Mbope. If someone does that, what am I
[12:05] gonna do? Or not.
[12:07] I'll shave your head. The only currency I have.
[12:10] I'll shave. I'll.
[12:11] Donate $500 to charity. I like that one.
[12:14] Proper land. Any charity of any charity of
[12:17] choice. FEZ.
[12:18] Company card. I'm just saying that clip
[12:21] doesn't exist. My, I know it doesn't exist, but
[12:24] you saying that Esac's better than Holland and then you saying
[12:26] that Holland is better than in Bape means that in that case
[12:29] ESAC is better than in Bape. So Man United beat Chelsea.
[12:33] So Chelsea beat Liverpool. So Man United must then beat
[12:35] Liverpool. So you just said before.
[12:37] Exactly. Exactly.
[12:39] So then there we figured out sports, Laura.
[12:41] No, but it's not the same. It's not the.
[12:43] Same. Beating a team is different than
[12:45] you saying I'm not going to talk about for 10 minutes.
[12:47] But you saying a player is better than other player and
[12:50] then saying that player is better than that automatically
[12:52] makes the top one better than the worst one that you.
[12:54] Said right now Isak is not better than Holland.
[12:57] I agree. Just like right now, Rodri is
[12:59] not better than I. Agree, but this goes back to
[13:01] what we were saying. We were trying to fucking say
[13:03] that you get, you can get Isaac. You go get Isaac.
[13:05] He's not that level of player. They didn't have a striker, they
[13:09] were missing a striker. They.
[13:10] Have a KTK. They didn't know a KTK was going
[13:12] to be good. So they spent 100 mil on a
[13:14] brother that they didn't know was going to be good.
[13:16] Brother he could play also play left wing.
[13:17] So Man United should go and sign Harry Kane now.
[13:20] Why is this about Man United? It's just.
[13:21] You're you have the right parallel.
[13:23] Striker they had didn't have to. Firmino gone to Nunes gone.
[13:27] Firmino's been gone, my brother. I'm.
[13:29] Just saying it's a new Gen. with no strikers.
[13:31] You have Ekatika, you have Gakpo.
[13:33] Last year you said can play striker.
[13:36] So you're in my personal opinion, Isaac was not the
[13:39] necessary purchase, so. They should have kept that Ek
[13:42] and if Ekatika was bad off the jump then they were screwed if.
[13:47] Yeah, but but it's also. Then why are you spending 100
[13:49] mil on him do? You want to be great or do you
[13:50] not? I don't.
[13:51] Understand. I do if you're not.
[13:53] Improving in the Premier League, you're getting worse.
[13:55] But I just on my worst they. Spent money on world class
[13:57] players to make them better. Now it's on to to.
[14:00] Slaught to, slaught to. Fix it.
[14:03] Unfortunately they haven't clicked yet, which I mean shit
[14:08] they spent a lot of money, they should be clicking right away.
[14:09] It's not rocket science. You you have no striker.
[14:12] You go get 2 strikers and one of them is world class.
[14:14] Like Firm said, it's up to the manager to figure out how to
[14:16] make those players fit. Verts was the useless transfer
[14:19] in my opinion. No, no I disagree.
[14:21] Useless. I think he'll figure it out.
[14:23] This is inexcusable though. But at the end of the day they
[14:25] lost two, one with a last minute goal.
[14:27] I think the conversations would be a little bit different if
[14:29] he's won. One, I mean, to be fair, they
[14:30] also won half of their games. They won probably 80% of their
[14:34] games with a 90. 6 center backs out and they still couldn't beat
[14:38] that. In my opinion Maresca master
[14:39] class in this. Bro what mass?
[14:41] What mass? In reached James center out
[14:43] Liverpool still outplayed them. But I disagree, I think he
[14:47] played, he made Liverpool played exactly in his his game plan.
[14:52] They accumulated like .5 XD Who Chelsea because?
[14:55] Exactly because they know Liverpool are vulnerable in the
[14:58] counter attack. So the game plan was to
[14:59] accumulate .5 XD and score two goals.
[15:01] Did you see how Malo Gusto was moving?
[15:04] It so the game plan should have been Malo gusto moving like
[15:06] that. I mean, that was a tactical
[15:09] shift that he made. I don't know, I following
[15:10] McAllister, I don't see this as a Maresca played well.
[15:14] The fact that for me it's more of a disappointment of
[15:17] Liverpool. The fact that you even left the
[15:19] game to get to a vulnerable stage like this where you could
[15:21] have lost it because Chelsea were there for the taking.
[15:23] It's not like I walked out of there and said Chelsea just
[15:25] dropped the master class. Considering the circumstances of
[15:28] the game where you have 6 center backs injured.
[15:30] Cole Palmer, Yeah, he played. They they did all right.
[15:33] But this game shouldn't even have been close to begin with,
[15:35] to be honest. For Chelsea, weren't we just
[15:37] saying that before we started recording?
[15:39] What? Yes, we were.
[15:41] Weren't we just saying that Liverpool, it was Liverpool's
[15:44] game to win and they lost and you were arguing against it?
[15:46] No, literally agenda switch in 15 minutes.
[15:49] No, I. Didn't I can't even keep up.
[15:51] We were just speaking, a buzzing here, a Chelsea, a Chelsea
[15:54] without Cole Palmer. This was Liverpool clearly to
[15:56] win this game. The issue you're you're
[15:58] misquoting me. You're acting like Liverpool
[16:01] should be winning this game 100% of the time.
[16:03] No, they should, though they shouldn't be.
[16:06] Given the players, anyone? Can beat anyone on any day.
[16:09] Yeah, but Chelsea with the injuries like you had a you
[16:12] didn't have a full team at this. Point this is not a Chelsea.
[16:15] If Chelsea are fully healthy, his game is 5050.
[16:17] Yes. But but they weren't.
[16:19] But they're not exactly. So I probably give them like a
[16:21] 25 or 30 or 35% chance of winning this game.
[16:24] So the fact that Liverpool couldn't capitalize on a game
[16:28] where they're supposed to be heavily favorited means that it
[16:30] was a mismanagement. From Liverpool, yes.
[16:33] I don't see this as Maresca did. Maresca, considering the
[16:36] circumstances, set up his team the best that he could.
[16:38] Why can't it be both? Just mismanagement on slot side
[16:41] and and good. Because if this was properly
[16:43] managed, in my personal opinion, Chelsea don't have any winning
[16:46] formula in this game. Did Liverpool play good?
[16:49] No. So in my opinion, you have to
[16:52] give credit on the other side as well.
[16:53] No, because it's possible. Both.
[16:55] It's possible one team played less shit than the other one.
[16:59] But yeah, you won. Sure.
[17:00] To me it was mismanagement and good management.
[17:02] On the other side is. That's what I saw.
[17:05] I disagree, but. I wouldn't fault Madeska for.
[17:07] I'm not faulting him. I'm not saying that he terribly.
[17:10] He did the best he possibly could.
[17:11] Oh no, he just said, he just said he did less us.
[17:13] You said he did less us. He did well in my He did as
[17:18] probably as good as he possibly could.
[17:20] Be brother. When I saw that lineup and I saw
[17:22] Malo Gusto in midfield with the Kaisero, I'm like what is his
[17:25] brother cooking at the end of the day?
[17:27] We saw Malo Gusto follow McAllister throughout the pitch.
[17:30] McAllister didn't play that well.
[17:32] On the other side. There was slot that didn't start
[17:34] words. He started Sobos like Cam, then
[17:36] he switched sobos like to right back.
[17:38] Connor Bradley didn't have a great game like it's it was both
[17:41] sides. In my opinion, there's good
[17:43] management on Maresca's side and bad management on slot.
[17:46] I'll suck his ass, that's all I'm saying.
[17:48] Just a. Shell of their former selves
[17:50] like you're looking at Sala too Sala coming off the season that
[17:52] he it every game it seems the same.
[17:56] He plays too far out wide. He doesn't, he's not involved in
[17:58] the play. Like it's very frustrating to
[18:01] watch, especially knowing how many goals and assists this guy
[18:03] put up last season. And it's, and it's, it's almost
[18:05] like it needs to be like curated for him.
[18:09] The the play needs to be curated for like I, I they never, they
[18:11] never really played on his on that right side.
[18:13] I said it before the season that Sal wasn't going to be good, but
[18:16] it's not it's not that he wouldn't be good like Season I,
[18:19] I could have thought trail off this.
[18:21] This wasn't unexpected. But I, I could have expected a,
[18:24] a dip in form compared to last year because last year he's
[18:27] never reached those heights. So yeah, it's, it's fair to
[18:31] assume that he'll do a bit less than that.
[18:32] But for this like to drop this much for me was is like
[18:38] unprecedented. Like it's unexpected in my
[18:40] opinion. We also form like I don't think
[18:42] Liverpool N Salah is going to be bad for the whole season.
[18:45] I don't. I hope not because I have they.
[18:47] Have a two week break. They have a two week break now.
[18:49] Goes the same for every team but when they come back.
[18:52] I mean the thing with Salah though, like forget Liverpool.
[18:54] Sure they'll be better and they'll be they'll be good but
[18:56] Salah has like a month or so from a month and a half and then
[19:00] he's straight to half con. True he has which breaks up a
[19:02] season even further. Salah might actually end the
[19:04] season with like fucking not even 20 GI.
[19:09] Hope egregious for sauce? Not really.
[19:10] Yeah, it is egregious, but they're really not clicking
[19:13] well. They were talking about this guy
[19:14] like he was in the Andre Rooney conversation.
[19:17] Yeah, in the Andre that conversation, but whatever,
[19:19] Yeah. Would they drop a season like
[19:21] this? I don't know.
[19:22] Yeah, Verts. Verts didn't have a great game
[19:25] as well. So like, I don't know, there's a
[19:26] lot of question marks around those transfers still.
[19:28] But on the Chelsea side, I mean, even in this, well, the center
[19:31] back crisis going forward is also a problem because for sure,
[19:34] what what are the injuries? Well, Chaliba's back next game.
[19:36] Chaliba's back without a suspension, right?
[19:38] Yeah, Cole will gone out. What are the?
[19:41] Long now is out. What?
[19:43] Colwell? You said Colwell.
[19:44] Yeah, Ocean. But they might be getting him
[19:47] back like we're not. We're not sure about the the
[19:49] recent injuries, severity of the recent injuries.
[19:53] But look, it's going to be another top 4 battle year for
[19:57] Chelsea. That's that's what their
[19:58] season's going to be. So Chelsea fans, if you're happy
[20:01] with that after three billion spent or whatever the fuck.
[20:03] Why? Why do you say only top 4?
[20:05] Because what do you mean? That's what it's going to be
[20:07] like. Chelsea are not competing for a
[20:08] title this year. They're not ending on 80 plus
[20:10] points. What changed in the six weeks
[20:11] that we just saw in seven weeks? We see that they're vulnerable
[20:14] and nothing has changed from last year.
[20:16] This is a good result, sure, but then you go against a Man United
[20:19] team who has looked pretty fucking dog shit.
[20:21] You go and drop 2, you lose 21. These guys, for some reason that
[20:26] yeah, but they got the record three games in a row.
[20:29] Like at that point, that's just indiscipline.
[20:31] That's not. But that's that's what I was
[20:33] saying, like Maresca at this point is not his fault that
[20:36] these players are getting records.
[20:38] It goes on to the players. No.
[20:40] No, but the red cars that they got discipline off pro Robert
[20:43] Sanchez, that game where he was just coming out to get the ball.
[20:46] Okay, but that's an instruction by the coach to go and get that
[20:48] ball. Oh my God, he's Robert Sanchez.
[20:51] Didn't catch the ball. He caught the body.
[20:53] Okay, so he doesn't catch the body, the player goes around him
[20:55] and scores a goal. Then that's an issue by the
[20:59] coach. Also that your goalie you either
[21:01] signed in a goalie that was too aggressive.
[21:02] Hypothetical, he could have also gotten the ball.
[21:05] Yeah, but you didn't play. But he could have gotten a ball
[21:08] just like you said. He could have gotten round and
[21:09] scored a goal. But he using a hypothetical
[21:12] against you the. Player was gonna go and score a
[21:14] goal, so he took out a player that was going to go score a
[21:16] goal. At the end of the day, it was a
[21:18] red card that changed the game. Same thing with Man United.
[21:20] But it wasn't a beaten the options.
[21:22] The options in that situation for our Sanchez is Man United 1
[21:26] nil or red card 00. But you don't think about that
[21:29] in this looks. Like I agree, it wasn't even
[21:31] against Man United. It was against Man United.
[21:33] It was. Against Man United.
[21:34] Yes, so. So the the the chalaba red card
[21:37] too, that was OK. That one Chalaba, yeah, sure.
[21:40] But also once again, if you want to play front foot defending
[21:43] your center backs need to be aggressive.
[21:45] And obviously, once again, Chelsea just should have bought
[21:49] either more center backs or not have not have bought sold their
[21:52] center backs and. Then you would have criticized
[21:54] that they. Spent five of them get injured,
[21:56] yeah. But then your team, it would
[21:57] have been in the title, title, race, but.
[21:59] How many fucking centre Max 1? Bro Chalaba is not a world class
[22:02] player, you shouldn't be starting for a team like
[22:04] Chelsea. Chalaba Chalaba's a top, we're
[22:08] about the top 20. He's a top 20 centre.
[22:09] We're about to go. Barcelona just lost two games
[22:12] this week. We're probably about to go and
[22:13] RIP their defense a new one because they're starting players
[22:15] like Eric Garcia at the back, which for a for a Sunderland,
[22:19] Eric Garcia might not be bad, but for a Barcelona, Eric Garcia
[22:22] is an obvious glaring hole that every manager that you're coming
[22:25] up against will say target him. So all these all these center
[22:29] backs other than Cole will are all dog shit.
[22:31] They're all dog shit. Rich James looked better than
[22:33] every other center back that they have.
[22:35] I think you have the negative goggles on.
[22:39] They fully healthy, they shouldn't have a center back
[22:42] problem. So Toasting and Cole Will's good
[22:45] enough to win the league. Cole's good.
[22:47] Tosin and Cole. 'S good, Tosin's not good
[22:50] enough. Do you see the top?
[22:51] Do you see the center backs that people are pulling up with in
[22:53] the premier? But Tosin would be what they're
[22:55] like. But.
[22:57] Tosin's their second center back.
[22:58] But at the end of the day, like, yeah, we're aren't we ripping
[23:01] Liverpool right now? And they have Van Dyke and
[23:02] Konate A. 100% but I also don't, I personally, I don't see
[23:07] Liverpool's defense being an issue personally.
[23:11] Like I see more the the attacking, it's just nothing's
[23:16] linking up up top. But defensively, this is like
[23:19] miles, miles worse than last season.
[23:22] Last season you went up versus Liverpool and you're not scoring
[23:26] bad. Like I don't think it's bad, I'd
[23:28] be curious. To see how many goals they
[23:29] conceded last season because bro, it's it's night and day.
[23:32] But you're you're gonna like. Frimpong was a stupid no
[23:34] because. Last year you're talking about
[23:35] like a legendary defense that would get like clean sheets
[23:38] fucking a lot of the time. I know Trent's gone, which is
[23:41] like definitely a. Big like like these?
[23:42] Games are ultimately lost because of bad defending and and
[23:46] good attacking on the other side like they lost 10 to
[23:48] Galatasaray. Caseto scored a wonder goal.
[23:50] Like let's let's also like outlined what happened.
[23:53] His real class 180 real class players score wonder goes 100%.
[23:57] But I wouldn't say that's necessarily bad defending.
[24:00] Like if if you were to go against this Chelsea team and
[24:04] game plan that you leave a a long shot open to Kai Sado, you
[24:08] would you would say I take that. Like if before the game you said
[24:10] the best chance Chelsea would get would be a lot.
[24:12] He does score. Some wonder goes though.
[24:14] Yeah, 100%, but the odds of him scoring that are low.
[24:18] Well, McAllister lost him like you like.
[24:20] I think it was true. It was McAllister, right?
[24:22] He was chasing him. Yeah, he kind of kind.
[24:25] Of got pushed off the ball, yeah.
[24:26] That's the word. But it's not like, OK, the last
[24:28] minute goal was the last minute goal, whatever.
[24:30] SNL got a wide open that somehow.
[24:32] But before that, it's not like Chelsea got any clear grade
[24:36] Grade A chances. But you could say the same thing
[24:38] about Liverpool then. But that's why my issue is up
[24:41] top, it's not the defending for the game was there for the
[24:44] taking for Liverpool. They could have easily won this
[24:46] game. They fucked up.
[24:49] That's because their mismanagement, their players
[24:51] didn't show up that day. So for me it's more of a it's
[24:54] more of a personnel question for Liverpool and Chelsea's quality.
[24:58] Like sure, they beat Liverpool, but I don't see it as being the
[25:00] top drawer game. Like I think this game missed a
[25:03] lot of quality. It was it was a dog fight to me.
[25:06] I didn't see that much good quality.
[25:10] I disagree. We'll see these games that
[25:12] that's sometimes how many times aside from like Arsenal, because
[25:15] Arsenal will probably consistently give those
[25:17] performances even versus the big boys, but they end up being like
[25:20] that with the top and the Prem like when they play.
[25:23] Yes, but when I when I, when I came up against Arsenal, I, when
[25:28] Man United came up against Arsenal in the first game of the
[25:30] season, we got a lot of shots and they were all long shots,
[25:33] but we got like 20 of them. But good luck trying to get in
[25:37] behind that defense. You stand no chance.
[25:39] Arsenal are on route to drop like one of the most it's it's
[25:42] almost like. They can see this.
[25:44] This must have been what it felt like to play against Chelsea
[25:47] when they allowed fucking like 12.
[25:48] Votingo ever Amarino season. Because yeah, it's all you go.
[25:51] In knowing that your only chance of scoring is a long shot.
[25:54] Or a corner or something, Yeah. Like, it's not, you're not
[25:57] score, you're not getting a breakaway against Arsenal, It
[25:59] just doesn't happen. You don't really dribble past
[26:01] the the. Only chance you got a breakaway
[26:03] was Cunia dribbling half the team against Arsenal.
[26:05] Yeah. So it's like.
[26:06] Like Tactical Setup and the amazing defenders.
[26:09] Exactly. But that's that's the level that
[26:11] we're talking about to compete for the Premier League.
[26:13] We're not talking about Tosin. But you could get away with with
[26:17] a good tactical setup with mediocre players.
[26:20] I just you could not in the Premier League, You could not in
[26:22] another league shirt, not in the.
[26:24] Premier League anyway, let's get to the other games because we
[26:26] have two more in the Premier we want to talk about Next up.
[26:28] We're not going to go to in depth.
[26:29] We talk about United every week, but United win 20 versus
[26:32] Sunderland. Aside from Sheshko having
[26:36] probably his first like very solid game this season, it was
[26:40] like it wasn't that different from other weeks.
[26:43] You're right, United played well and we won the game this week.
[26:45] It just just the result changed. The Brentford game was obviously
[26:48] fucking terrible. That one was just inherently
[26:51] terrible. Now we only have, in my personal
[26:53] opinion, we have two bad performances this year.
[26:56] I'll put the Grimsby and and Brentford as A2 bad
[26:59] performances. Every other one I think was
[27:01] actually pretty decent or good. Once again, results managers are
[27:07] braided on results. So I'm still skeptical.
[27:10] I'm still right now. If you can go get a top class
[27:13] manager, you go get a top class manager.
[27:15] In my personal opinion, I mean. We spent 45 minutes talking
[27:18] about Javi last week. Yeah, yeah.
[27:19] Now he's already upgraded him to If You Could.
[27:21] Is Shavi a top class manager? I wouldn't mind once again, I
[27:24] wouldn't mind Shavi interim. But is he?
[27:27] He's not top class. I wouldn't say top class.
[27:29] So you don't want Shavi anymore? Did you hear what I just said?
[27:33] Am I once again? I feel like he's very right to
[27:37] say what he's saying, no. Because I literally just said I
[27:39] would take Chavi as an interim but like that doesn't mean that
[27:43] Oh my God like you should. I'm right now I want results.
[27:47] Results are what matter. I don't give a fuck about who's
[27:49] manager. I don't.
[27:50] Give a fuck what he tells about the XG table every day.
[27:54] Once again, am I? Am I speaking in a foreign
[27:57] language? No, because you're getting
[27:58] caught up in all the stupidities you say.
[28:00] But you, you talk about results. That's funny.
[28:02] Come on, results matter. But you talk about XG every
[28:05] fucking day. Exactly, but do do results tend
[28:08] to follow XG? Stops, huh?
[28:12] Stop, son. If a team is doing well on XG,
[28:14] do results tend to match? It might.
[28:18] Hopefully, but not. All the time.
[28:20] We're actually living in the fucking matrix.
[28:21] I mean you every time we have a conversation and I always answer
[28:24] with I think people tend to if they're over, if they're over
[28:27] performing or underperforming, they tend they tend to continue
[28:29] doing that all season because we saw that last season Kunyan and
[28:32] Buemo over performed XG all season as they underperformed XG
[28:36] all season. Teams underperform or over
[28:38] perform consistently. It's.
[28:40] Consistency in the inconsistency, But once again,
[28:43] you're, you're literally your logic, OK, is that everything
[28:47] must progress back to the mean, so we must regress back to the
[28:51] mean, no? I think the mean here is a bit
[28:54] lower than. The mean is right now unexpected
[28:57] points. We're fourth in the prep, but
[28:58] whatever. Once again, we you say we speak
[29:01] about United every week. No, you speak only.
[29:03] You wanted to only choose to speak about United every single
[29:06] time we lose. You want to speak about United.
[29:07] Bro fucking gloat about it. What's good about it?
[29:09] Bruno's ass. Your team is all right, you
[29:11] played Sunderland. Team was alright, we dominated
[29:14] the game. Sunderland did not have one
[29:16] chance the entire game. I fucking Arsenal dropped this
[29:18] performance. You're going in?
[29:20] Oh my God, look at our tech the best.
[29:23] Game I didn't write down. Millie confirm I didn't even
[29:26] want Millie. Millie Millie, Millie Millie
[29:28] firms was in here but I didn't want to write down Arsenal 20 to
[29:31] West Ham because for a team that deserves to win those games,
[29:34] you're not supposed to talk about it.
[29:35] I agree. That's a fucking I don't think
[29:37] we should speak about Arsenal 2 nil.
[29:39] OK, so we're not talking about United 2 nil.
[29:41] But once again, you you only want.
[29:43] To do something you you. Only want to speak about United.
[29:47] When we lose, then now the Today we win.
[29:50] It's we're not going to spend much time on this.
[29:52] It's United. I don't remember speaking about
[29:54] Milan Lyche. Because Milan Leche is
[29:56] irrelevant. No one, no one listening to
[29:58] this. Point my friend.
[29:59] Is a fuck about Milan leg I just.
[30:01] Gave you the floor. Go gloat, Gloat about this 20
[30:04] win we talk about. We played well.
[30:06] There's not much to say. Like it was just we played well.
[30:08] That's. What I just said, there's not
[30:09] much to say. So, but OK, I can go, we can
[30:12] find talking points, go. But then you're gonna be like,
[30:14] go, go. This is irrelevant to the.
[30:16] Who you gonna go look? Who you gonna go look?
[30:19] Sheshko played well entertainment, I said it.
[30:20] Ahmad played well and Bueno Bueno Ahmad.
[30:23] This was the first game of the season where and Bueno Ahmad on
[30:25] that right side actually had decent connections and you, you
[30:27] looked Oh my God, they they actually like.
[30:29] They're like Kobe, shy. Even the Sunderland manager
[30:32] after the game was like. Thank God I'm for water in my
[30:36] mouth what I don't. Know Sunderland manager now.
[30:41] Now he's the the Oracle he played.
[30:44] Against him, OK. Imagine if I no, no, no.
[30:48] Imagine if I said even though lecher manager said Pulis.
[30:51] Sunderland breaks. That was really good.
[30:52] Leche's fucking you don't understand.
[30:55] You're not You're not talking about the same level.
[30:57] Sunderland and said he has 7th place or 8th place.
[31:00] That's crazy. Like you're not talking about
[31:01] the same. Decent form so far bro.
[31:03] Sunderland was fourth place going into the weekend but you
[31:07] guys are treating like us beating Sunderlands like.
[31:09] So do you think Sunderland should be a top four team in the
[31:11] Prem? OK.
[31:12] No, it's just, you know. I'm I'm actually I'm getting
[31:15] rage baited bro. I'm getting rage baited this.
[31:17] Is, I mean like, I mean there's a lot of people who spent like,
[31:20] listen, we can talk about FPL too.
[31:21] A lot of people on FPL we're. Picking up Sunderland?
[31:23] Players. Because of that song, it's
[31:27] defensive contributions. Well, the.
[31:29] No. Regularly because they're a
[31:30] defensive team, I'm. Like, OK, let's eat.
[31:33] Burnley players against Man City.
[31:35] Fuck it. They don't get defensive
[31:36] contribution as many as. Singapore, you know why I picked
[31:39] him up? Because he said Defcon's like
[31:41] 88% of the weeks and he's going to be united, which they
[31:44] sustained pressure. Attacks.
[31:45] So if Valderette was playing Liverpool, you would pick him up
[31:48] as well? Yes.
[31:50] You should say yeah, OK. Stop the cap.
[31:52] Brother's gonna be back. I.
[31:53] Mean why you're you have shotgun, he's gonna be shotgun.
[31:56] If the next game it's Sunderland versus Man City, yeah, I'll
[31:59] fucking consider it. So why'd you even consider him
[32:00] in the 1st place? Cool.
[32:01] Manchester United, I'm like, OK, it might be an everyone needs
[32:04] game for Sunderland, they're on. Good you thought Shaka.
[32:05] Would score a goal, Oh my God, but.
[32:07] He might actually get an assessment.
[32:09] Lamin's, Lamin's debut, he was actually very good.
[32:11] I'm not gonna go over the top and glaze exactly.
[32:14] Did he face a shot? Yeah, it phrased the Yeah, it
[32:17] did. Crazy.
[32:17] Bro like crazy. No lemons was good.
[32:20] Lemons was actually very good and and because I was stuck in
[32:24] the Bayandir Onana Penitentiary, I don't think I've actually
[32:28] watched a goalie like actually know what he's doing on the ball
[32:32] for a little. Like, I'm not saying much.
[32:34] I'm not saying he was amazing. Like, I'm not saying like that
[32:37] was a good performance. That's next week that he's
[32:39] amazing. It was a good performance.
[32:41] Now he got called up to the Belgian national team.
[32:43] He'll get to learn off of Courtois a bit like one week or
[32:45] two, you know? That's what region they're
[32:47] saying. No, that's Jack.
[32:49] That's what Zerximi rolling is. Yeah, Zerximi rolling is the
[32:51] reason why he's. You get mad at Jack for saying
[32:54] that? Yes, because bro, you're like,
[32:56] you're literally opening it to rage.
[32:58] Like you're literally opening it to rage.
[33:00] He drops in his because. If he drops.
[33:02] A stinker. If he drops a stinker, say.
[33:04] That Jack, the issue is Zerximi rolling.
[33:07] He can say all this shit and there's no Flack for it.
[33:10] I have to. I listen on this podcast on
[33:12] Sunday. I come in and then let's say
[33:14] Lyman drops a stinker. Man United fans were saying he's
[33:18] baby Courtois. They deserve it.
[33:20] No one. Said that I'm asking Chaji BD
[33:22] create me a photo of Courtois. You know, like the little
[33:24] chicken and the big T Rex of Courtois and lemon.
[33:28] Bro, like it's whatever he started, he started well.
[33:31] I think it was just a solid performance from minute one to
[33:33] minute 90. Like it was, it was, it's real.
[33:37] It's reassuring knowing the team can do this.
[33:40] Now it's about doing it weekly and I think Amrim spoke about
[33:43] that also in his press conference.
[33:45] He knows the team can do good performances.
[33:48] It's more about stringing them together.
[33:50] Even Mason Mount said it like when we beat Chelsea, we
[33:53] thought, OK, this could start like our string and then lost
[33:56] against Brentford. It's like every loss is like a
[33:58] reset in the locker room. And I don't think that's the way
[34:02] it should be. I think this is the I'm not
[34:05] saying this is the bar, but like now this, this should be like
[34:08] our minimum standard. Now it's build off of this, I
[34:12] think. I think going into Liverpool,
[34:15] this was a good result to have. I think the players will have.
[34:19] I'm not saying they're going in expecting to crush Liverpool.
[34:22] That's just what we're going to say.
[34:24] A draw. I'm not.
[34:25] I'm actually going to go for a draw.
[34:26] I'm going to go for one, one or two, two.
[34:29] Interesting. Just have to get that on camera.
[34:31] All right, the next matchup, Millie, you like that?
[34:35] Very just got a good game. Well, he did have a good game.
[34:38] He did have a good game. His.
[34:39] First link up I would say second good game but maybe his first
[34:42] like it the the last game was more yes he scored but he
[34:46] sometimes fucked up a bit on the ball.
[34:48] This game he was actually like probably the best striker
[34:51] performance I've watched at Man United in the last like 2 years
[34:53] because of Hoyland. So my God bar is low.
[34:56] The bar is in fucking hell Bar. Is low Next up?
[34:58] Not going to talk about it too long.
[35:00] Arsenal beat West Ham 20, but the take away Arsenal's top of
[35:04] the table and honestly, overall, aside from maybe Yokadesh, which
[35:09] I'll make a comment about in the in the next two minutes, but
[35:13] Arsenal look very good. They look very solid it.
[35:16] Was a very, very safe performance so.
[35:18] Sak of the status. Quo.
[35:19] I don't know how healthy Sak is because he's supposed to like
[35:23] they're, they supposed it's all about load management and they
[35:26] want to rush him back and whatever.
[35:27] That's why we bought the depth and all that stuff.
[35:29] But I don't know if it's just me, but any other Arsenal fan
[35:32] can let me know. Sacca doesn't look like he did
[35:34] at the beginning of last season. He still looks a little bit
[35:38] slow. Maybe it's just reintegration,
[35:39] but that's just me. Overall I think though Arsenal
[35:42] look dominant in every facet, even scoring wise.
[35:46] I mean, defending, we all know they've they've always been
[35:48] good, but this is like, I feel like they added the cherries
[35:51] that they needed on top of the cake and now it's like a pretty
[35:55] fucking good team. Right now, they're the most
[35:57] consistent team in the premise. Do you see much of a difference
[35:59] from last season though? I do a little bit.
[36:01] I disagree. I think last year at this point
[36:04] Arsenal had won more games than I think at this point.
[36:06] I don't think they had two losses at this point last season
[36:09] like Arsenal last year at this point were even more dominant
[36:12] then we're acting like. I'm not.
[36:13] This is not the sugar coat Arsenal.
[36:16] Arsenal I think have played the best in the league so far.
[36:20] So I I'm not sugar coating it, but this is a weak West Ham
[36:25] team. They do have some performances
[36:28] in there that are not absolutely dominant.
[36:30] Like they're still, there's still questions for me against
[36:35] who against Man United. They did not deserve to win the
[36:38] game. Sure, but I mean, forget if you
[36:42] think that Man United deserved to win.
[36:43] I don't. I'm not saying that.
[36:44] Sure, it wasn't an Arsenal win. Arsenal have one loss and it was
[36:47] to Liverpool. OK, which is?
[36:49] That's that's where the only the.
[36:50] Only team, the only team you're allowed to drop points to, and I
[36:53] disagree, Arsenal, the only team you're allowed to even drop
[36:55] points to is is Liverpool at this.
[36:57] Point and A and a Man City draw that they celebrated like a win.
[37:01] Okay, rage bait aside, they beat Newcastle.
[37:04] Rage, bait, rage. Every other one was comfortable.
[37:06] Every other one was comfortable, even in the Champions League.
[37:08] But my question you can see my goals.
[37:10] My question mark are for the big games because you can name all
[37:14] the results there. In the big games where it's
[37:17] Liverpool lost Man City draw, Man United should have drawn
[37:20] like in the big games. You talk about facts but then
[37:23] you don't say they beat Arsenal, they be OK.
[37:25] They didn't beat, you know their performance was fucking dog
[37:28] shit. So start.
[37:28] We talking about results we're not talking against.
[37:30] West Ham, My question marks are against Arsenal are not against
[37:32] West Ham, they're not against the West Hams are against the
[37:34] not even force, not against Burnley.
[37:36] I know you guys are going to cream fucking those teams.
[37:39] It's against the Liverpools. The Man City's the top teams in
[37:41] the league where the Yokoresh up top where you're getting no, no
[37:45] supply. You're supplying him with
[37:47] nothing. Forget nothing you're supplying.
[37:49] He can't even do anything with what he's given Arsenal, just
[37:53] the the the against West Ham, yes, you have the quality to go
[37:57] and destroy them even when you're not playing particularly
[37:59] well. But against the Man City or a
[38:02] Liverpool, you don't get away with those performances.
[38:05] Sure. And that the results have shown
[38:07] that. Well, not the city game because
[38:08] you want to talk about hypotheticals.
[38:09] Sure, it should have been maybe a draw versus Manchester United,
[38:12] even a loss you can say. But versus city?
[38:14] City did literally nothing for 65 minutes.
[38:16] They were sitting back for they They.
[38:18] Scored they it was 1 nothing. And then it was consistent
[38:21] pressure for literally 60 minutes.
[38:23] Because you they did nothing. Arsenal were were Arsenal had to
[38:26] score. They literally were up 1.
[38:28] Nothing. In my but bro if you like if you
[38:32] look forget the stats just watch the game.
[38:35] Exactly game state. That game state, that game could
[38:37] have been an Arsenal win. Yeah, but no, we couldn't.
[38:39] Have you waited till the last minute to score the game?
[38:41] But it's unlike for like someone like Pep to sub off Holland then
[38:44] put a Nico Gonzalez. On 100% but you're telling me
[38:47] right then the Arsenal should have won that game?
[38:49] I think, yeah. You OK?
[38:51] So now, now revisit the podcast and I'm sure your opinion was
[38:54] different. Revisit the podcast of that game
[38:57] because game state needs to be taken into account.
[38:59] We can't just sit here and look at look at stats.
[39:02] Yeah, sure. Look that.
[39:03] Look at all the I'm pretty, I'm pretty sure.
[39:04] I'd said that Arsenal deserve to to at least tie like that.
[39:07] That was. Sure, maybe they deserve to get
[39:11] back into the game. Maybe.
[39:12] But at no point did Arsenal ever deserve to win that game.
[39:16] If city don't, I know City did score first.
[39:17] If city don't score first if you run the game 10 times on that
[39:20] exact day. But you're not you use
[39:23] hypotheticals. I'm not using hypotheticals.
[39:25] They drew the game. They they literally did not
[39:27] outplay. It was 1 nothing for 70% of the
[39:30] game Pep. Since when this Pep just like
[39:33] close up and run into a shell. So do you win the game because
[39:36] Pep did that or do you actually win the game for scoring a
[39:38] second goal? We drew.
[39:39] We drew versus Manchester City. I think, yeah. 1st, we drew
[39:43] versus them I, I. In my, in my head, I, I still
[39:46] think I have doubts on Arteta. Like you said, in big games,
[39:49] there's still question marks. But what I'm saying is that the
[39:52] team that they have they they assembled is pretty exceptional.
[39:55] Like they, they have no flaws. You could bring up Jock at a
[39:58] shirt, but at the end of the day, they're still scoring goals
[40:01] and he will get scoring eventually.
[40:03] We know he could score goals. You could bring up those winger
[40:05] positions like. I see no flaws in this team
[40:08] really. I don't know, even after
[40:10] bringing in Esse. I don't think he's not a win.
[40:12] He played particularly well. I, I actually, I like as he had
[40:15] the life when he's going to figure out Ortez is going to
[40:17] figure out where he needs to play, it won't be it won't be
[40:19] where Saka plays on the right. It'll be more not playing at
[40:22] 100% what he what he could. He looks pretty fucking good.
[40:26] He looks pretty good. I don't think he's not, he's not
[40:28] playing touchline. He's playing kind of like, you
[40:30] know, just slightly more central.
[40:32] I, I like where as he plays Yokoresh.
[40:34] I said it today. I I watched the whole game
[40:37] paying attention to Yokoresh. Jokadesh is not a good player.
[40:41] That's it. He's a better player than
[40:43] haverts because he actually knows where a striker should be
[40:45] on the pitch. He allows the rest of the
[40:47] players around them to be optimized.
[40:49] But Jokadesh himself on the ball, his first touch is not
[40:51] good. He turns like a truck.
[40:53] He's not in. He's not necessarily fast.
[40:55] Sure, he's physical, but that's lucky.
[40:57] It's, it's, it's not. It's sure it's an agenda switch.
[40:59] An admittance. Sometimes you got to put your
[41:01] hands up. I watched enough of him now in
[41:03] the Premier League to know that brother, that brother is not and
[41:07] he won't get there. He won't get.
[41:08] There, no, I disagree. I think he's been absolutely
[41:10] abysmal. But there's a reason why he
[41:12] scored all those goals. And I think obviously joining a
[41:15] new team, there's there's a transition stage and Arteta is
[41:18] not treating him. He's not putting him in the best
[41:21] place to score those goals. That's true.
[41:22] But I do think he's he's, but he has been horrible.
[41:24] Figures it out. Ekatika would have five goals
[41:27] right now if he was but. Ekatika is a different player.
[41:29] He's better at linkup. He's better at certain.
[41:31] Things I'm seeing. Doesn't make yokesh a bad.
[41:34] Player We shouldn't have to change a bad player, but Yokesh
[41:36] is not a good footballer in the Premier.
[41:39] Might not be good. For wide open breakaway, yeah,
[41:42] he'll finish it. How often you gonna get wide
[41:44] open breakaways? Bro?
[41:45] This is the Premier League. It's not fucking Portugal.
[41:46] Where? No.
[41:47] Because every team against Arsenal.
[41:49] Do give that Chris Wood. Chris Wood, Chris.
[41:52] Wood is 10 times better player. That's your opinion.
[41:54] Yeah, I'm not I'm not now I'm not going to start being crazy
[41:57] deluded like you. Chris Wood was in the perfect
[42:00] system for Chris Wood less he Yeah, that's why we that's why
[42:02] we saw those stats if Jokanesh was in the perfect system for
[42:05] him on a smaller Prem team. What team is that?
[42:07] What? What team is the perfect system
[42:09] for him? I don't.
[42:09] Know maybe he had. Maybe.
[42:10] A transition we we would. Be a defensive ass team.
[42:13] But maybe if a West Ham, let's say, chooses all the fucking
[42:16] eggs in Jokanesh basket and just 412 or 13, he'll have an have a
[42:21] fucking eighteen goal season, a nineteen goal season in the
[42:24] Premier League. Same way Chris Wood did, but on
[42:26] Arsenal. You can't mold the whole play
[42:27] around Yokoresh. Therefore he's just going to be
[42:29] a guy that's going to look like ass to the eyes, but he's allows
[42:32] the rest of the team to cook, which Harvards did not.
[42:34] Harvards did not. I don't know.
[42:36] It's it'll Harvards did not get the best out of Saka.
[42:38] Harvards did not get the best out of all these players around.
[42:40] What was the result? Like I said at the beginning of
[42:45] the season, Arsenal will be severely better with Havarts and
[42:48] Marino up top than Gilkaresh. I said this at the beginning of
[42:51] the season, Arsenal are even less of a threat than CL now
[42:55] because of Gilkaresh. Because now, in my personal
[42:57] opinion, this makes you less defensively solid in big games.
[43:01] I just, I don't know, I'm not a. Sample I'm I think I they
[43:04] haven't conceded a fucking goal in Champions League and they've
[43:06] conceded things in the Prem Who the.
[43:07] Fuck have they played Stop stop with this boy.
[43:09] Olympic club. Exactly.
[43:12] I'm not talking about Olympiacos and Athletic Club.
[43:15] Put them in the Prem they're fucking.
[43:16] Bottom the relegation you basing it off on.
[43:19] Get to the round of 16, the quarterfinals.
[43:20] Play against a Bayern Munich. Play against a Real Madrid.
[43:23] These fucking this Yokadesh thing won't work.
[43:27] Or you're such a player that Yokadesh somehow becomes a
[43:30] reason for teams to score more goals against Arsenal.
[43:32] A striker makes us concede more so that makes.
[43:34] Sense so So when they played, when they played Bayern Munich,
[43:39] how many goals did they score? Bayern Munich scored, Bayern
[43:43] Munich scored. I'm talking about in Seattle
[43:45] like a couple years ago. Two years ago.
[43:48] Well bro, you're acting. Like 2 years ago.
[43:50] OK. That team is relatively the same
[43:52] I would say. So, so PSG, OK, what was the
[43:55] issue? PSG score goals.
[43:58] They're not going to score goals again.
[43:59] Go see the starting lineup of that team which I'm curious the
[44:02] PSG one the. Chances were there.
[44:03] We we did a live stream. The chances were there.
[44:06] The ballet scored in the 1st 4th minute and they didn't.
[44:08] The rest of the game it was. Fabulous.
[44:09] Oh no, Yeah, it was fabulous. The ballet was against Liverpool
[44:13] top ten. They show me the the ballet
[44:14] scoring. In the first game, the O'nelly
[44:17] scored 10 in the 4th minute. Arsenal.
[44:19] Created that back and Arsenal donoruma.
[44:21] Show Arsenal got 1.63 XG and Donanuma stole the show and the
[44:24] starting lineup this was it like.
[44:26] You see, you're pulling up a Trustard, Martinelli, Marino,
[44:28] all those pleasures. Lewis, Kelly Cavior.
[44:31] Still there? Well, caviar.
[44:32] Yeah, but the Martinelli's gonna start.
[44:33] Marino's gonna start Trustard. Trustard honestly could start
[44:36] some weeks when as he wants to. Get Rochelle.
[44:40] You're not competing against top teams with that.
[44:43] Bro like come on bro we get fucking.
[44:44] They generated 2.9 XG in the second game versus PSG in the
[44:47] second. Place semi final in the
[44:48] Champions year competing. Scored one goal.
[44:50] Teams but bro, if we. Marino, I'm not.
[44:52] Even going to go into hypotheticals but if Arsenal
[44:55] played enter it'd be a different situation.
[44:56] Over 2 legs last season, I. Think we're playing this year
[44:59] though, Playing. Yeah, we're playing again, so.
[45:01] One game well shall see. Yeah, you guys played US1 game
[45:03] last season, scored that pen and then that's.
[45:05] A seto though, I think. That was, that was tero Nismo.
[45:08] We did what we needed to. Do that was terrible A.
[45:09] Lot of teams seem to sit back against Arsenal which is weird.
[45:13] I mean, they just, they just let them play.
[45:14] Arsenal can't really break blocks well in my opinion.
[45:17] Doesn't help with Yokoresh. Saka should be able to figure
[45:21] that out. Eze helps a lot with that.
[45:22] Yeah, Martinelli couldn't. Can't break a fucking block if
[45:25] he was in Minecraft, bro, the guy's ass.
[45:29] But I guess that's it for the Yokoresh 8.
[45:32] What else do you want to talk about in the Premier League?
[45:35] There's a couple topics, which one we're going to.
[45:38] Start with, well, Ange not winning a single one of his
[45:40] first seven games. Little bit egregious.
[45:43] You can low key he has an argument for being the worst
[45:45] Premier League manager of all. Like single stint, worst manager
[45:49] stint of all time. I'm not kidding.
[45:51] OK, that's not possible. There's Frank de Boer.
[45:54] This is worse than Frank de Boer.
[45:56] It's very possible I think. I don't remember exactly his
[45:59] record, but. He should and every.
[46:02] Game has been a convincing loss with Ange like is.
[46:05] It really his fault though. Yes.
[46:07] Yes, you gave it. This team almost made Seattle
[46:10] last year, I know. But on the final day they did
[46:12] not receive a crumbling an already crumbling team.
[46:15] OK, sure. They finished fifth last season,
[46:17] so even if you get a crumbling 5th place team, you should be
[46:19] able to get them 10th. When was he appointed?
[46:21] He was appointed. Seven games ago.
[46:23] Seven games ago. Probably a month ago.
[46:25] A month and a half ago. Like he's no, there's no time.
[46:28] The Premier League's so competitive, there's no time to.
[46:31] This one is a misfit. Like it makes absolutely no
[46:33] sense. You go from a super defensive
[46:35] manager to one that. Is a highline responding to the
[46:37] Is the worst manager ever in the Premier League?
[46:39] Yeah. I didn't say the worst manager
[46:41] ever, I said the worst manager stint ever.
[46:45] It's the worst manager appointment of all time.
[46:48] My tripping where they have had a hard, they've had a hard
[46:50] fixtures that did not be. But the issue is that.
[46:53] They even lost in Conference League or whatever the fuck
[46:55] they're playing. Yeah, Midland.
[46:56] The issue is that this was a conversation that was brought up
[46:59] last year as well. They actually have had an easy
[47:01] fixture, yeah. Yeah, when when Nuno was on,
[47:05] when that whole spat happened near the end of the season last
[47:07] year and it was like, OK, then they might bring in Angela.
[47:11] You could, I think six months ago we had this conversation and
[47:13] we said Ange is not a good fit for this.
[47:15] But everyone, it was so very obvious and clear.
[47:18] Four guys on a couch can tell you.
[47:20] That's what I'm saying. Same thing with an hug. 11
[47:23] Cuisine, Yeah. Poor guys at the couch.
[47:25] Are warning you a. Very bad appointment and then it
[47:27] ends up being a very bad appointment.
[47:29] Like it's kind of it's very evident.
[47:31] So yeah, yeah, I don't know. Very poor decision making by
[47:34] Marinakis, I'd have to say. But yeah, again, it's it's just
[47:38] and just put in an impossible position.
[47:39] I find. Like you're coming in.
[47:42] No pre season. You just came in 3-4 and he
[47:45] mixed. Like pieces together.
[47:46] Like, yes, he won the Europa League with Spurs, but he did
[47:49] finish 16th or 17th with them. Yeah.
[47:51] And now you look at them under Thomas Frank and they look at
[47:53] their policive unit. Like at what point do we start
[47:56] like saying Andrew's low key just a ship manager?
[47:58] Well, it's fucking, he's like, what would you even call it?
[48:02] Like he's so polarizing. It's either amazing or or
[48:06] horrible. And it's like that his whole
[48:07] career. It seems like he's gonna be
[48:09] playing himself out of another Premier League job.
[48:11] Like I don't really don't. Surprise even got a second one
[48:13] to be honest. I don't know.
[48:15] I think that Tottenham Stan, like people kind of hadn't.
[48:17] It was controversial. 16th. Yeah, but then.
[48:19] With the team that's like Barbara said is currently I
[48:21] look, you think they finished 17th actually, but yeah,
[48:24] possible. You guys finished 15th, 15th,
[48:27] Yeah. And Wolf finish in between you I
[48:28] think. I think I think Tottenham were
[48:29] right above the relegation like they were the last.
[48:31] Place before relegation, yeah, but that's inexcusable because
[48:34] that same team, well, not that same.
[48:35] Team I think I look I I don't for for Nottingham you're you're
[48:40] actually really looking at relegation at this point, like
[48:42] you should not in my opinion. It's a sack like you need to
[48:46] sack a. 100%. This second before it becomes
[48:48] relegation, yeah. But I think Maronakis is
[48:50] suffering from his own successes because they came into the
[48:53] league and became like a massive success so quickly.
[48:55] He's a control freak. He he, he probably like.
[49:00] He's very involved. He made 5th and said, you know
[49:02] what, we can start playing attacking football.
[49:05] Like, no bro, you're like, I think there's a negative stigma
[49:08] nowadays against defensive football.
[49:11] Like for some reason defensive football is really looked down
[49:13] upon and at some clubs it makes sense, like Man United.
[49:16] It's kind of like in the club culture that you need to play
[49:18] attacking football, front foot, attacking football.
[49:21] But in other clubs like Chelsea, I feel like Chelsea playing
[49:24] defensive football is not frowned upon.
[49:26] Yeah, I feel like they're kind of changing the DNA that club
[49:28] now with Maresca and stuff like that.
[49:30] But in the past, playing defensive football is kind of
[49:32] part of the DNA. So like it it.
[49:37] He kind of didn't like the squad makeup, I think, and he tried to
[49:41] change it all over one year, which we know that doesn't.
[49:43] Work to help this offensive. Zinchenko like they brought in
[49:47] Zinchenko. Was their ideal front 3 going to
[49:51] the season? Chris Wood.
[49:53] But they signed the Igor's boys fucking they signed Calim Wendo
[49:56] like they have a big squad Rd., they have a, they have squad
[49:59] options, they have a. Manager will figure it out with
[50:02] this. Team the Premier League, Look at
[50:03] the names you're saying. No, I think they have a good
[50:05] even bringing in a Douglas Louise.
[50:06] OK good. Trying to sing I'm proven as
[50:08] fuck. But all these players, that and
[50:10] doy they joined the Prem were unproven.
[50:13] All these players before they joined the Prem were unproven.
[50:17] That and Doy was unproven to some extent.
[50:19] It just seemed like I like their team, even Anderson, and I think
[50:22] they. Have a good baller, they have a
[50:23] good enough squad to finish 10th.
[50:25] Yeah, I agree. Well, they.
[50:26] They aren't. They're not in relegation right
[50:27] now. They're they're very what, 15th
[50:29] or 16th? Probably are in relegation to be
[50:31] honest. Like it might they're not in a
[50:33] relegation spot. In my they're 17.
[50:35] They're just above. In my opinion, Sack and Loki
[50:37] Ange the Celtic job might become available soon again supposedly.
[50:41] Very poor results. Goal.
[50:42] Ruin Celtic, just go back, well, go back to Celtic like it's he,
[50:46] he obviously has a fit there. So yeah, yeah, but Bournemouth.
[50:53] But we were watching the Bournemouth Fulham game together
[50:55] and we'll get to the Chukwueze hype a bit later.
[50:58] Does he know he's not inside? Yeah.
[51:01] But yeah, Semenyo Semenyo's low key been the best player in the
[51:04] Prem or second best player in the Prem this season so far.
[51:07] Are you guys considering a form or world class?
[51:11] I'm saying form. I'm saying form.
[51:13] It's just too quick. We've had a lot of discussions
[51:16] about this, but. Depends what your your standards
[51:19] are. If you think that he's going to
[51:20] be goal or assists per game, yeah, I agree it's form.
[51:22] Well, he's on six goals, 3 assists.
[51:24] Yeah. But obviously, OK, obviously
[51:25] this is form like we don't need to.
[51:27] I'm not expecting next year Semenyo to be on the Balandor
[51:30] podium. No Manchester United is probably
[51:32] going to pay for like 7580 million for him.
[51:34] Is this player not worth 75,000,000 after this season?
[51:37] That's form. Depends where.
[51:38] Bournemouth and. Then go double O 7 like.
[51:40] Is it? But is this player not not worth
[51:42] 75 mil? You not watch this player right
[51:44] now and say he's worth 70 mil? We just watched 60.
[51:46] We just watched Chelsea spend 60 fucking million on Jamie vinyl.
[51:48] Getting but that's that's Chelsea.
[51:50] We know that they're OK spending on like.
[51:52] Here, take take a deal that people aren't even considering
[51:54] bad. We'll take Chavi.
[51:56] Chavi Simmons. Kudos.
[51:57] Or Chavi Simmons. OK.
[51:58] My bro Simmons has been performing.
[52:01] For multiple seasons, Semenyo is is better than Chavi Simmons.
[52:05] He's a better player than Chavi Simmons.
[52:07] I think what we are, what we have here is Bournemouth being a
[52:09] good team. Semenyo is in a perfect tactical
[52:12] fit, I agree, and on good form he could become world class.
[52:16] I wouldn't say he's world class right now.
[52:18] He's world class. What does he do?
[52:19] World class means he's top three in his position left wing.
[52:21] That's not so. If I go look up in a dictionary
[52:24] what world class means, it's going to say top three in his
[52:26] position. What is your position in?
[52:28] What is people have different definitions of world class?
[52:31] OK, what do you guys tell me yours, you say top three, top
[52:33] three. You could say top three could
[52:34] reach it's top five. It depends the position 5
[52:37] depends. It depends the crop of the like
[52:41] if you go back a decade. Just say we were the.
[52:44] Fucking 15 centre mids that were world class.
[52:46] There's probably 5 or 10. Yes, there's 5 or 10 centre mids
[52:49] back in the day that you would put right now and they'd be the
[52:52] best centre midfielder ever. Don't look at his story.
[52:54] Right now, top five like world class means you're top five in
[52:57] your position. I don't so.
[52:58] Now it moves back to top five, top three, top five.
[53:01] I said you could reach at the top five but you go back a
[53:03] decade. K Centre Mids, Chavi, Modric,
[53:06] Iniesta. So easy to talk about pure.
[53:09] Low, but that's like hindsight as well.
[53:10] So many world class players. In hindsight, you.
[53:12] Question. Right now, no.
[53:13] Right now you go strikers. There's way more than five world
[53:16] class strikers. Tell me then.
[53:19] Holland and Bape Kane Laltaro Laltaro's World class OK.
[53:24] Where is that? Go his his Isaac is world class
[53:27] 100%. He's actually class like there's
[53:30] Lewandowski is world class, like there's so many world class
[53:33] strikers. That's five in my opinion, guys,
[53:36] that's six. Then there's some that are
[53:37] fringe world class. Then ballet like.
[53:40] If you count him as a yeah, he was a.
[53:41] Striker, yeah, he was a striker. Like there's a lot of world
[53:43] class strikers like world class. Then you can start getting into
[53:48] like the more like 5050 world class world.
[53:50] Class to me includes consistency over time and semenyo sure great
[53:56] right now. Was amazing also so.
[53:58] He was good last season but now look at the rest of his career
[54:00] was I didn't follow him. Where was he at?
[54:02] Bristol City, but. But there's players that get
[54:05] into their best at 2526 years old.
[54:07] Look at Mosala like Mosala only became.
[54:10] OK, so then it goes to the next question.
[54:11] What is he world class at? Finishing, he's like the
[54:15] dribbler. He's an insane dribbler.
[54:16] I'd say he's elite at all those things.
[54:18] He's not world class at any of them.
[54:19] And Bapi is a world, is a world class dribbler.
[54:21] How long is a world class finisher?
[54:23] They have world. Class Taro's not world class at
[54:25] anything. Exactly not world class.
[54:26] He is world class to you then. So.
[54:29] So you say numbers over time? Lal Taro literally has some of
[54:33] the best numbers over time that we've seen the striker.
[54:35] She don't want to be that world class.
[54:36] She don't remember and his prime was world class.
[54:38] Yes, he won the fucking Golden Boot in Europe.
[54:41] He was obviously world class. But yet you hate him on some
[54:43] days, and some days you glorify him, but whatever.
[54:46] Just because you're world class? I hate Lewandowski as a player.
[54:49] I don't think that he's that good of a player.
[54:50] I can still recognize him as world class though.
[54:53] To me to be world class you have to not just be in good form and
[54:57] you have to have traits that are world class.
[55:00] That's to me that's what world class is.
[55:02] If you don't want to put on a top five or a top 3 on it, at
[55:04] least have world class traits. Emmanuel to me is just elite at
[55:08] everything you need as an attacker, which makes him upper
[55:11] tier elite. But world classes should be a a
[55:13] small pool of players in my opinion.
[55:15] Yeah, I think, I think he just needs to do a bit more at a
[55:18] higher level before he's in those conversations.
[55:21] I think what he's doing now is, is great.
[55:23] He's he's proving to be a very good asset.
[55:26] So can he be world class? I agree.
[55:28] I think for him said he could be world class.
[55:30] I think he's definitely not IF. I ever hear you say Yieldy's
[55:33] world class. We're going to be revisiting
[55:34] this conversation. Worldy's is upper elite.
[55:36] Yieldy's is upper elite. Semaneo's better than Yieldy's
[55:38] Semaneo's a lot better than. Yieldy there's also different
[55:41] positions like there's. Different positions.
[55:44] I mean I would say Yieldy's is more of a calm.
[55:48] OK, you're you're talking about literal minute little
[55:52] differences. But for me, you could, I mean
[55:55] Yieldies is more, you could say that he's a left wing.
[55:58] I don't know. He plays.
[56:00] More of a Cam, I don't care about the position.
[56:01] My position is on I. Just know that I watch you watch
[56:04] yieldies he has. Plays against worst competition,
[56:07] but go on. Sure.
[56:08] But he does things, he does things that if he can
[56:10] consistently do them and versus big teams, then he'll be proved
[56:13] to be world class. Did you not watch this Emanuel
[56:15] goal against Fulham where he dribbled the entire team and
[56:17] said, wow, that's that's not normal players, Yeah.
[56:19] Fulham do it, like you said, when yogis has to do it versus
[56:21] big competition, Semenyo should have to do it too.
[56:24] So I exactly once again we should.
[56:26] Not deliver bro. He dropped the master class
[56:28] versus Liverpool even though they lost.
[56:29] But they dropped the mat if you couldn't.
[56:30] That was a world class performance.
[56:32] You do that shit enough, you're a world class player.
[56:33] Bro he's been doing it for a year and a bit or whatever, it's
[56:36] OK. It's so easy to look back when
[56:38] you're looking at it now, like last season.
[56:41] Why was nobody talking about Semenyo?
[56:43] Everyone was speaking about Semenyo.
[56:45] He was linked to 60 million £70 million.
[56:47] Movement, but we weren't saying he was real class.
[56:49] I mean, obviously Cole Palmer, we said it in the you guys said
[56:53] in the first, I didn't. You guys said in the first
[56:54] season was world class, in the second season, world class.
[56:56] He was world class consistently. And low key Cole Palmer has
[56:59] fallen off and fallen off in quotation marks to his standards
[57:02] like he he last year he did not drop the season that he did past
[57:06] seasons. Does that mean he's not world
[57:07] class anymore? No, but numbers wise he dropped
[57:11] off. I don't care about.
[57:12] Numbers, yeah, but he also hit a you say he also hit a peak, a
[57:16] crazy peak like Cole Palmer in that first year was was like top
[57:19] 30 balland dollar easily. So if Semenyo, let's say, drops
[57:23] an insane season for some reason, he drops 35 or 40 goals
[57:26] in his. System then you could definitely
[57:27] be in this conversation. I think that's.
[57:29] Crazy. But then he goes back down to 15
[57:31] or 20. He's still world class.
[57:34] It depends how the season goes. I I personally think Bournemouth
[57:37] is just a good team and he's on form.
[57:39] He's perfectly in that team tactically and he's been
[57:42] performing. So if you could perform for the
[57:44] entire season, he could be world class.
[57:47] Yeah, I agree. Right now is he world class?
[57:49] You you say? So.
[57:50] Great form, good form. Jonathan David wasn't world
[57:52] class at Lil but he fit perfectly.
[57:55] Into that system. OK, OK, we we've reached.
[57:57] Uncomfortable conversations. We've reached an ultimatum here.
[58:00] Oh. Boy.
[58:02] The precipice of an enormous crossroad.
[58:04] He's had he had insane underlying numbers, but he
[58:06] wasn't world class at anything on the pitch, therefore he
[58:09] wasn't world class. And Jonathan David still isn't.
[58:11] World class world worst than Asana Diao.
[58:13] You're right. Asana Diao.
[58:15] Yeah. Whoever that player.
[58:17] Is anyway, let's find something that me and Viber can finally
[58:20] agree on. Barcelona won Sevilla 4 and
[58:23] we're also going to throw in PSG with their C team beating
[58:26] Barcelona 21 as well. I don't know where we want to
[58:30] start with the the. Lot of narratives on this.
[58:32] The narratives. Not a good day to be a cooler.
[58:34] Yeah, coolers are good. Must be.
[58:37] I must be ashamed. Must be.
[58:38] Must be very. By the way they celebrate their
[58:40] highs, they deserve the rippings when they're on the lows.
[58:42] This we could start with the PSG one, because that was
[58:45] chronological. That was the first one, that
[58:46] one. I think there was a lot of
[58:48] criticism to that one because of the context.
[58:51] PSGB team, however you want to put it, their top players
[58:54] weren't playing. Not even the B team.
[58:56] The B team got served out for the C team.
[58:57] That was later on in the game, yeah.
[58:59] But yeah, Barcelona didn't do enough there.
[59:02] Defensive woes. Defensive errors like that was
[59:05] the big glaring factor. And the last minute error.
[59:08] Last minute error as well. So going into the Sevilla game
[59:11] to see 41 and a lot of defensive errors like this, this is just
[59:16] compounding on that on that whole issue.
[59:19] So I think are there alarm bells?
[59:21] I think there are definitely, but I feel like the alarm bells
[59:24] have been going on for since even last season with the
[59:27] defense. So I don't know.
[59:29] I don't know what you're you guys are seeing from from
[59:31] Barcelona fans, but like, I feel like this is kind of been a
[59:33] conversation for a while now. Conceding four goals like the
[59:35] PSG 121, the system just prevailed.
[59:38] The PSG Luis Enriquez system just prevailed.
[59:41] In that sense, I don't think Barcelona did anything
[59:43] especially well, but. That's 1st 20 minutes they.
[59:46] Just got caught. They got caught lacking in the
[59:48] last minute where the their line was too high and yeah.
[59:51] Bro PSG pulled up with their fucking C team.
[59:53] They shouldn't. No, no, I know, but it was.
[59:55] Today versus Lil, I don't know if you saw that, that was
[59:57] actually their C team. Like defense, you still had Nuno
[59:59] there. You still had like Zabarni,
[1:00:01] Obviously they saw. It's like Chelsea versus
[1:00:03] Liverpool. Liverpool.
[1:00:05] Liverpool should have gotten a win.
[1:00:07] Yeah. Like Barcelona should have won
[1:00:09] that game with the lineup that PSG pulled up with.
[1:00:12] They should have won that on paper.
[1:00:13] They should have won. Bro they pulled up with him by
[1:00:17] to play. Barcelona I know and I'm saying
[1:00:18] on paper Barcelona should have won, but but after that first 20
[1:00:22] minutes where Barcelona Yamal had some flair, was able to
[1:00:25] about break passing you, I feel like they figured them out.
[1:00:27] Like PSG played their game very well.
[1:00:29] They played Barsa, played into, played into them.
[1:00:32] Last year you're watching Barcelona and you're saying,
[1:00:34] holy shit, this team's kind of unstoppable.
[1:00:36] This year it's like, bro, this team is so stoppable.
[1:00:39] Like I don't know what to. Like, well, they were looking.
[1:00:42] They were looking this season, we're looking.
[1:00:44] Bro I just watched Alexis Sanchez score on them in 2025.
[1:00:48] Yeah, but yeah. The problem is that they
[1:00:50] conceded four goals to Sevilla. That's the problem and a team
[1:00:54] A-Team that I put #1 in my power ranking should not be conceding
[1:00:57] four goals. Sevilla.
[1:00:58] Well, I mean the first issue is putting the number one in your
[1:01:00] power ranking. Yeah, well, you put them what,
[1:01:02] 3-4 K, That's you. You guys put them.
[1:01:04] Yeah, put. Them three, bro.
[1:01:06] We might be revisiting that. That was 4 without even a loss.
[1:01:09] We might be revisiting. This so you're fucking stupid.
[1:01:11] That's all you are. No. 4 without even a loss.
[1:01:14] Yes, because the teams I put above them, they didn't lose
[1:01:16] either. But they showed a lot more in
[1:01:17] those performances that I didn't.
[1:01:18] Barsa lost the game. No, I didn't.
[1:01:20] Barsa lost the game, so that was my reasoning.
[1:01:22] I think I put real above them. I I had real above them.
[1:01:25] I had, I know actually I might have had Liverpool above them.
[1:01:29] You definitely did. I had Liverpool.
[1:01:30] There's no way you put them forth and you don't have
[1:01:31] Liverpool. I don't.
[1:01:32] Remember, I don't remember, but I definitely had Bayern Munich
[1:01:34] above them and I had the PSGPSG. Definitely it.
[1:01:38] Was definitely 3 or 4, but yeah, the but yeah, I know that again,
[1:01:42] I it just they didn't do anything this summer after Nigo
[1:01:46] Martinez left. That was a huge loss and bigger
[1:01:49] than everybody expected that. Came out of nowhere, yeah.
[1:01:51] I don't think it's bigger than everyone expected, bro.
[1:01:53] Every single person, even us in the podcast we were saying, but
[1:01:57] bro what? What's Barcelona defense this
[1:01:59] year? They're going to be absolutely
[1:02:00] dog shit defensively, but then everyone is like, I don't know
[1:02:03] what the fuck I just said there, but then everyone was just like,
[1:02:06] oh, flicks gonna figure it out. Like second season.
[1:02:09] We. Surely didn't.
[1:02:10] I didn't say that I was hoping. I was praying on their downfall.
[1:02:13] But Rahul Kabarsi, it was more like terrible, like you just
[1:02:18] assumed that Barcelona will outscore their problems.
[1:02:22] Yeah, that. You score 3, we score.
[1:02:24] I think, I think I didn't hear that in a couple places.
[1:02:26] Yeah, no, it was a thing, but. But then you have sorry, you
[1:02:29] have Rafina and Yamal being out, then you can outscore your
[1:02:31] opposition. Yamal, bro, we got to figure out
[1:02:33] this pubic injury, bro. If you need any help in the
[1:02:36] pubic carrier, bro, I got you. Excuse me?
[1:02:37] Fresh eating crazy. Insane work.
[1:02:41] Insane work. Crazy work.
[1:02:42] But yeah, no, it's just, it just highlights it again.
[1:02:46] It was just beating on an open wound that with the severe loss.
[1:02:50] But do you think they can kind of fix their issues for the next
[1:02:54] like once the international break finishes like I, I don't
[1:02:58] think so. I don't know.
[1:02:59] We're going to have to just. See, I think full health,
[1:03:01] they're like, I don't know actually what happens to
[1:03:03] Rashford. I guess Danny Elmo doesn't play
[1:03:06] Rashford left wing Yamal right. Wing I've been if it was just
[1:03:12] one cool air I wouldn't even pay mine to it.
[1:03:14] But now 2 cool airs have come out to me saying Rashford is
[1:03:16] shit. How how He's the only one
[1:03:19] fucking scoring in your team. Barbara Bernard has has an
[1:03:22] agenda against Rashford. I think it's just 'cause he's
[1:03:25] not used to the way that Barsa plays and.
[1:03:28] He's the only one scoring. Yeah, but that's with, like we
[1:03:31] said, Yamal is not there. The Fed on Torres is playing up
[1:03:35] top. I don't understand the the one.
[1:03:37] First of all Barbara Bernard. The one specific performance he
[1:03:40] brought up was against Newcastle and he said that he was fucking
[1:03:43] dog shit. He literally won you the game
[1:03:45] single handedly. I don't know, that's something
[1:03:48] Barcelona fans would get better, but I still think like Pedro's
[1:03:51] still performing at least like the midfielders are still doing
[1:03:54] well. It's more.
[1:03:54] He's the very job right now, unfortunately.
[1:03:56] For me, it's like just the, I think it's tactically the issue
[1:03:59] because you could figure it out with maybe a lower back line and
[1:04:04] you still play at Ajo and Kubarsi, but like at this point
[1:04:07] you're playing catch up every single time the Sevilla goes.
[1:04:09] We're all counter attack. Like you're getting caught up
[1:04:11] with a, like we said, Inigo Martinez was pivotal for this
[1:04:15] defensive highline. So yeah.
[1:04:17] But I think. Inter Inter showed everyone the
[1:04:19] blueprint on how to beat them. Also, Goncalo Ramos scored
[1:04:23] against scored against them. Yeah.
[1:04:26] And after the game, he brought in a cool little like analysis
[1:04:30] on, like, what he used. I don't know if you saw it.
[1:04:32] Harry Kane. Yeah.
[1:04:33] So Harry Kane scored a goal in against Barcelona in the round
[1:04:37] of 16 or I'm not sure which one. He whatever, he played in a
[1:04:39] group, stage, game or whatever because a banger watched.
[1:04:41] In a hat trick I think. Yeah, I don't remember, but he
[1:04:44] basically he used that as an example that Barcelona play
[1:04:47] their high lines so they push up as high as possible.
[1:04:50] You as a striker, you shouldn't care about the high line, you
[1:04:54] should even stay in your natural position because then when a
[1:04:57] winger beat someone one-on-one, you're going to be behind the
[1:05:01] ball in front of the in front of the defensive line though, so
[1:05:04] you're going to get a tap in each time.
[1:05:06] So it's actually a benefit for you to stay offside originally.
[1:05:12] So you you stay like 2-3 yards behind the the offside trap that
[1:05:17] they're playing. Yeah.
[1:05:18] And then when one of your other players, let's say a pass, goes
[1:05:21] in behind into your winger or something like that, and he's in
[1:05:24] behind the defense. The whole line has to shift the.
[1:05:26] Whole you're you're technically on because you're behind the
[1:05:28] ball. Yeah, you're basically playing
[1:05:30] on the second pass. Yeah, which we saw it against
[1:05:32] Sevilla where it's like the the striker was just standing there
[1:05:35] and he was waiting for the the winger to pass and then cut back
[1:05:38] and it was an easy. Goal.
[1:05:39] I feel like defensively this year Barcelona could see a lot
[1:05:43] of teams set up that way. And but that that's if the
[1:05:45] defensive line doesn't work. And obviously we've seen with
[1:05:48] the injuries and stuff like it's hard to make it work, but if it
[1:05:51] works, I think it's. Obviously Inigo was a massive
[1:05:54] loss, yeah, but I don't think Inigo even fixes this.
[1:05:57] This is just my personal opinion.
[1:05:58] It's a hypothetical, but that's just a systematic.
[1:06:01] Like yeah, I'd be curious to see how Flick kind of adjusts.
[1:06:05] Yeah, like why are we giving an eagle this like brother?
[1:06:07] He was, he was, he was good leading force.
[1:06:09] I would say he was, he was the one of the more consistent ones
[1:06:11] in that whole team. I think he was more consistent
[1:06:13] than Kubarski. I think he was way more
[1:06:15] consistent than Rahul and Eric Garcia and anyone else.
[1:06:17] Fine than an Eagle Martinez on the market last summer.
[1:06:20] I don't think they were able to bring a new.
[1:06:22] They maximized they they literally after the Rashford
[1:06:26] deal. They maximized.
[1:06:27] They couldn't have run any fratio.
[1:06:28] Yeah, they couldn't have done any more.
[1:06:30] Something after the Rashford deal?
[1:06:31] They they have no money. They should.
[1:06:33] Have prioritized realistically another center back instead of
[1:06:36] Rashford so. No, The thing is, is that when
[1:06:38] I'm telling you the timeline they signed Rashford, they still
[1:06:41] had Niggo Martinez. And then Niggo Martinez had this
[1:06:44] stupid clause in his contract that would allow him to go to
[1:06:47] Saudi for free. But why did they allow that,
[1:06:51] that clause in his? Like they planned for Niggo
[1:06:53] Martinez to be in the squad and then he ended up leaving for the
[1:06:56] bag. I think he left for Al Nasser or
[1:06:58] whatever and then they just they're left with no money.
[1:07:01] They got no money for Nico Martinez, so they can't even
[1:07:03] spend money to replace him. So it was like just a stupid
[1:07:07] they should have sold that Ajo, but I.
[1:07:09] Don't think anyone wanted that Ajo.
[1:07:11] I don't think he wants to leave. That's the issue also.
[1:07:14] Yeah, 'cause then he's going to fall into irrelevancy if he
[1:07:16] leaves. Probably in the pedenta or
[1:07:18] something. He was terrible.
[1:07:19] He's been, he's been bad this season.
[1:07:21] So he's a deep block defender. It's like.
[1:07:23] Yeah, this is not playing. At you, babe.
[1:07:25] But it's just he's a deep block defender.
[1:07:28] He's like a, he's like a Lacroix at Crystal Palace.
[1:07:32] Like you stick that guy in a Highline.
[1:07:35] One-on-one shocking back. No, guys.
[1:07:37] That was fast enough to keep up with a highline.
[1:07:39] Yeah, because Yahoo. That's more the Yahoo.
[1:07:42] 'S not slow, just stupid. Yeah, he gets red.
[1:07:46] Fucking El Salvador, another one.
[1:07:49] Yeah, honestly, that's the both not too.
[1:07:51] Far from home. Both getting low for him.
[1:07:55] Yeah, I guess. I don't know if you wanted to go
[1:07:57] more into the rippings or. Well, no, it's I'm sure.
[1:08:01] I got one more. Flake definitely has to just
[1:08:05] understand why. There's no emergency button or
[1:08:07] anything but Yamal and I think you need to be healthy.
[1:08:10] Barcelona fans get your noggins checked because midweek after
[1:08:15] two in loss of PSG I was senior Air Garcia comp on my he.
[1:08:18] Played good though. Yeah, he did play good.
[1:08:20] You lost 21 to He's been fucking.
[1:08:23] He's been. Playing good.
[1:08:24] You can't stop bringing up this stupid narrative.
[1:08:27] It's like, it's just like Chelsea, if you play well,
[1:08:29] you're bro. You're acting like.
[1:08:30] Fuck it, Eric Garcia is dog shit.
[1:08:33] But again, as I said, you could have a mediocre player, but in a
[1:08:37] in a good tactical fit you can make it work.
[1:08:39] Kiwi were playing well last season in the Champions League.
[1:08:42] Kiva's a good player though I would say, but Kiva Garcia has
[1:08:45] to be in the. Same El Salvador.
[1:08:46] Kiwi is way better than Garcia. It's reactionary because he
[1:08:49] plays that Arsenal who's better defensively and not reactionary.
[1:08:52] And also Barcelona hasn't been that bad defensively.
[1:08:54] Like apart from these two games this season.
[1:08:57] Go check they have fucking 4 clean sheets they've kept clean.
[1:08:59] Sheets that's that's true. Like I think this is again
[1:09:02] reactionary because. It's obviously don't think so.
[1:09:05] It is reactionary. This has been a problem against
[1:09:07] big clubs against big games for for the last year.
[1:09:10] But but sounds. Like Arsenal fans?
[1:09:12] The problem? No, obviously I'm not excusing
[1:09:14] this, but the problem is highlighted obviously when
[1:09:17] Barcelona is not scoring more than the opponent, which is
[1:09:19] Flick's game plan. Flick doesn't care if he's if
[1:09:22] they score five goes against him as long as his team score 6.
[1:09:25] Yeah, I mean, so when you get deeper in Champions League and
[1:09:27] you play good teams and they do get the other team actually can
[1:09:31] score 7, you're gonna end up crashing out of Champions
[1:09:36] League. I mean, that's what happened
[1:09:37] last year, but clearly it took a summer generational performance
[1:09:41] to keep enter in the game and that could happen.
[1:09:45] But am I gonna stand here and say Barcelona had a bad game
[1:09:47] against? There's no contingency plan like
[1:09:50] for something like this. There's no contingency plan if
[1:09:51] you don't, if you don't have your or your mouth.
[1:09:53] Yeah. And in that I agree.
[1:09:54] Like an arc to. Be tactically flexible.
[1:09:56] And he's not. He's not.
[1:09:58] An Arsenal like the PSG last year, they didn't even leave you
[1:10:01] room to even make you think you could win the game.
[1:10:04] PSG, Arsenal. No, I'm saying PSG, like just
[1:10:07] PSG specifically last year they dominated you to the point where
[1:10:11] you didn't even have a chance to be so.
[1:10:13] True. Like yes, it's true.
[1:10:14] But later, up against Aston Villa, like Aston Villa put up a
[1:10:17] fucking yeah. Aston Villa played well, but I'm
[1:10:19] saying like in most games, it's not like they played a highline,
[1:10:23] like you just didn't even get chances.
[1:10:25] You Don Ruma played well though in a lot of the games, but.
[1:10:27] The Arsenal stole show Don Aruma like like.
[1:10:31] They don't win game when you because.
[1:10:32] They're flexible, yeah. When you I agree with that, when
[1:10:34] you get 20 chances but give up 10, you're leaving yourself open
[1:10:38] to lose the game. You could lose the game.
[1:10:40] When you give up twenty chances, say.
[1:10:41] It again no. When you get 20 but you give up
[1:10:43] 10, there's a possibility where you can the other team converts
[1:10:46] 2 and you convert 0. You have a much better.
[1:10:48] Chance of winning the game if you get 10 chances but give up
[1:10:51] 0. Like, that's the Arsenal way,
[1:10:53] yeah. Yeah, I lost.
[1:10:56] You can't lose the game if you give up 0.
[1:10:59] Yeah, I know, but like then then you must really hate the Zerby
[1:11:02] because his philosophy is just. I don't.
[1:11:04] Want the zerby? You don't like the Zerby?
[1:11:05] No, that makes sense because his philosophy is I'm going to
[1:11:09] attack. I don't, I don't know how to
[1:11:10] explain it, but it's the opposite what you just said,
[1:11:13] where he'd rather create more chances than the opposing team
[1:11:17] and create good. One, and that's fine in a league
[1:11:19] format. In a league format, I feel like
[1:11:21] that's better. In a Champions League, you're
[1:11:23] never going to go far because that that's counterintuitive.
[1:11:28] There's knockouts momentum at the end of the day, like if a
[1:11:30] manager is not able to be flexible and sit back for a
[1:11:34] certain amount of period during the game before going maybe more
[1:11:37] possession based. Like you need to be able to
[1:11:38] change your your styles. If you stick to 1, then look
[1:11:42] what happened then. I'm in Man United, he stick to
[1:11:44] his philosophy and there's problems to actually.
[1:11:47] Change it up this week a bit, but whatever.
[1:11:49] I don't find he did, but whatever.
[1:11:52] Real Madrid on the other side actually had a good last couple
[1:11:55] of games. They won three, one versus
[1:11:56] Villa, Real and 40 to Kirat. Basically the the big take away
[1:12:01] is a lot of people had a lot to say about Real Madrid and
[1:12:04] champion Alonzo, maybe because of the Club World Cup or the
[1:12:07] start of the season, but are we underrating, underrating Real
[1:12:10] Madrid at the moment? I don't know what I think,
[1:12:15] especially if you go back from the Champions a game before,
[1:12:18] like with Marseille, that was also like the conversation of
[1:12:21] maybe they didn't deserve to win.
[1:12:22] Like they they also had poor results before these as well.
[1:12:25] Like I don't really think the tide fully turned.
[1:12:28] There's still, there's still conversations about that D52.
[1:12:30] Against Athletic. Yeah, that felt like that just
[1:12:32] happened the game before, or if I'm not mistaken.
[1:12:35] So like, yeah, Real Madrid looked good last two games, but
[1:12:38] conversations still needs to be had.
[1:12:39] But Kirat al Mati, for all intents and purposes, not a pop
[1:12:42] champions. Excited.
[1:12:44] So for nothing for them doesn't really surprise me.
[1:12:46] And then three, one versus Vierreal.
[1:12:47] Vierreal is a good team, but yeah, Real Madrid just got the
[1:12:50] better of them. So yeah, I don't know.
[1:12:51] I still a lot of conversation. And not beyond the form of his
[1:12:54] life. They haven't faulted.
[1:12:55] They haven't. They have. 5 Two against that
[1:12:58] lady's not faulted. Yeah, and it's micro scale,
[1:13:01] Yeah, one, one game. But overall, the season.
[1:13:04] Is that their only loss? Yeah, not counting Club World
[1:13:07] Cup. But.
[1:13:08] Marseille was very bad. Performance.
[1:13:10] Yeah, that was a very and penalty bailout.
[1:13:13] Like at the end of the day, yeah, it's reactionary to where
[1:13:18] you lose these games because the Bilbao one came after a good
[1:13:23] performance and I think Marseille was after or
[1:13:26] something. You mean Athletico loss?
[1:13:27] What did I say? Bilbao.
[1:13:29] Athletico came way after. Yeah, sorry.
[1:13:31] Sorry, Athletico. Yeah.
[1:13:34] So like, no, but they've been good and Bap has been class.
[1:13:37] They've look, if I have to say they've been more stable in
[1:13:40] Barcelona, but also like I'm also.
[1:13:43] They look frail. Too.
[1:13:44] I'm also, I'm also very skeptical about Real Madrid's
[1:13:47] chances in CL and obviously the Real Madrid, so you can never
[1:13:51] fully count them out. But to me it doesn't look like a
[1:13:53] team that's capable of winning CL right now.
[1:13:56] I'm singing for this. Honestly for the same reasons as
[1:13:58] Barsa. They have defensive question
[1:14:01] marks. 100% they have defensive. Rudiger's not the same.
[1:14:05] Rudiger's injured. Hoisen.
[1:14:07] You can't just let a young center back like that just be
[1:14:09] all alone. Be the leader of that back line.
[1:14:12] Trent, what's his status? He's still injured.
[1:14:15] Carbajal's still injured. Yeah, they're, they're
[1:14:18] definitely down a couple men. It's just more can they can they
[1:14:21] keep up this type of consistency for the rest of the season?
[1:14:23] I don't know but. Vinny and Boppe if they keep up
[1:14:25] with Vinny then. And Bape, there's a bit of tax,
[1:14:28] like I'm pretty sure he's a, he's close, he's a.
[1:14:31] Lot of pens he's. Close to the record for the most
[1:14:35] pens scored in a year by Ronaldo.
[1:14:37] That's the Ronaldo has the the record in 2013.
[1:14:39] Fourteen or something like that. He's like two or three pens away
[1:14:43] from from beating that. He's been playing good though.
[1:14:45] Getting in good positions like. Mastantuano great player too.
[1:14:48] But the question mark is Artie Guiller is playing well in
[1:14:51] center attacking mid shielder. But when Jude Bellingham comes
[1:14:53] back after international break from injury, I don't know if
[1:14:56] it's international, but it might be the next international break.
[1:14:58] What happens? Drop.
[1:14:59] Bellingham Lower. Like the Bellingham's not
[1:15:02] dropping lower you're. Not dropping Bellingham.
[1:15:05] Bellingham for Guler. He's also just you're misusing
[1:15:08] Bellingham if he's deep. Oh, but Bruno Fernandez.
[1:15:12] I'm not saying he's missing as a good one.
[1:15:14] No, because no, Bruno isn't a good one.
[1:15:15] Skill set is more used to it like being played deep than
[1:15:19] Bellingham. Bellingham's a box crasher.
[1:15:22] Bruno's not a box crasher. He's a box muncher.
[1:15:25] Exactly. What are you gonna do?
[1:15:29] What are you gonna do? This is the Burns.
[1:15:31] Gonna enter this one. Now you got this.
[1:15:33] I don't know what's the next. One I'm sure, I'm sure everyone
[1:15:35] was waiting cuz yeah. They're waiting for the dramatic
[1:15:38] 00. Juventus, Milan.
[1:15:40] Yeah, that was. So I need a warm up mate.
[1:15:44] This is a poodle. Couch Show This is a poodle
[1:15:45] couch Classic Setia game 00. A little bit too classic, a
[1:15:49] little too classic. What?
[1:15:52] I give We both give our takes. You see some good points.
[1:15:53] I see some good points. We both give our takes.
[1:15:56] I'm. Gonna be unbiased bro.
[1:15:57] We both give our unbiased take of the game and then we talk
[1:16:00] about it instead of like. And then dysfunctional like I'll
[1:16:03] give my unbiased rating and he'll give his unbiased take.
[1:16:07] I say you guys just comment on our takes.
[1:16:09] Cat. Like on who should have?
[1:16:10] Worked or or maybe I'll say like I align more with Paula or I
[1:16:15] align more with firms. But you don't need to because I
[1:16:17] already know you're aligning with firms because you're during
[1:16:20] the game layout misses the sitter.
[1:16:21] I don't see anything. I'll layout misses.
[1:16:23] David dot dot dot dot dot familiarity the itinerary, but
[1:16:30] fucking layout is yanked. Yanked.
[1:16:32] Yeah, oh man. I think how can I put?
[1:16:36] You have a minute on the clock. But I'm trying to take a no.
[1:16:40] No, it's not even a it's not even a game.
[1:16:42] Just just what is your take on the game?
[1:16:44] What were the expectations coming in and how did you guys
[1:16:47] move? Expectations were to win this
[1:16:50] game because I think we came with a stronger team.
[1:16:53] You guys had a lot of injuries. We deserve to win it in my
[1:16:56] opinion, and we whiffed like we we just didn't because of put
[1:17:01] such missing the chances, Leo missing his chances.
[1:17:03] But we should have won this game like I think we had every chance
[1:17:07] to to make it 10, even 20 at one point.
[1:17:10] You should should have scored that one goal where you got a.
[1:17:13] Chance to make it 20. Yeah, bro, you see that layout
[1:17:16] chance? But it was never even 1.
[1:17:18] Nothing bro how the? Fuck, are you gonna be two?
[1:17:20] I'm saying two chances to score two goals.
[1:17:23] Juventus also had a big chance where Manion saved our ass
[1:17:26] there. They got to, They got to.
[1:17:27] They got the chance, yeah, but at the end of the day, like 00
[1:17:31] is a fair result. It's not what I wanted.
[1:17:33] I think obviously I wanted to win, but a leggy ball, what can
[1:17:38] I say? OK.
[1:17:39] OK. I'm going to say I agree with a
[1:17:41] lot of what you said. To be honest, coming into this
[1:17:43] game, I, in the back of my mind was more nervous going into this
[1:17:47] game than I was versus Inter. Really.
[1:17:50] Healthy. When you went fully healthy,
[1:17:53] Bremer, Kefram, everyone's at full strength versus anyone in
[1:17:56] Syria. I'm obviously stressed versus
[1:17:59] the big boys, but I know I have a chance today versus Milan.
[1:18:02] No Bremer, and I was looking at that back line before the game,
[1:18:04] bro. That starting lineup did not
[1:18:05] look good. Rugani, Lloyd, Kelly and Kalulu.
[1:18:08] Rugani played well. Rugani did play well, which is I
[1:18:11] think credit to like negative credit to Milan because Rugani
[1:18:14] making. Him look good.
[1:18:15] Because we shipped him to AX last season and I nobody heard
[1:18:17] about him for a year and then Rugani's back.
[1:18:19] Yeah, crazy. We had no idea.
[1:18:21] I. Mean on the counter.
[1:18:22] There's even Gabia on the other side who's been good.
[1:18:24] But again, Gabia is not this world.
[1:18:26] Class play today yeah, I didn't even realize it but no, I think
[1:18:32] one thing I will give credit to Milan this season they already I
[1:18:36] think they're already accomplishing what they set out
[1:18:37] to do the season which was steady steady.
[1:18:39] The ship allegory is same old allegory, it's very stable,
[1:18:45] players are looking good, pools are just looking good and all
[1:18:47] that. Today in my opinion was a
[1:18:50] disaster class by AC Milan because did not look like he did
[1:18:54] in the last few games. I think you agree on that.
[1:18:56] I thought he played goodly, maybe individually, but like
[1:18:59] Mildred had a fantastic. Yeah, Mothers was.
[1:19:01] As per mothers played in much bigger games than this, this is
[1:19:04] not a situation where mothers. Those are passes that I haven't
[1:19:06] seen a lot of Milan midfielders make.
[1:19:08] Yeah, a very long time, 100% yeah.
[1:19:11] Midfielders, yeah, in general, that's the class from a
[1:19:13] different place in different time.
[1:19:15] You know Tudor by the wayside note, you know Tudor played with
[1:19:17] Madrich and Madrich's first Croatia appearance.
[1:19:20] Oh my God in A32IN versus Argentina and throwback 2002 or
[1:19:24] whatever. So Tudor's the same age.
[1:19:26] No, no, no. Probably like it was like
[1:19:27] Tudor's. Last game, tail end of his
[1:19:29] career. Something like that.
[1:19:33] I think Tudor going into this game, sure, our last
[1:19:37] performances were all draws, so there was a consistency in the
[1:19:39] draws, but I think the draws were all different games.
[1:19:43] They were all completely different games.
[1:19:45] It was the four, it was 22, It was a, you know. 111 We were
[1:19:49] entertaining you may played played entertaining football.
[1:19:52] But what Juventus fans wanted to see was defensive solidity and
[1:19:56] today for the first time, Tudor tactically very conservative.
[1:20:00] Didn't even think about it. You've a Drew again?
[1:20:02] Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's Tagamoto all over again.
[1:20:04] What the fuck? But there it's a different
[1:20:07] manner of draws every time. It is like bro, when you draw,
[1:20:11] you draw 4, you draw 4/4, you draw 22, you draw 00.
[1:20:15] Those are different. Draws you actually fit Arsenal
[1:20:17] so well bro. Those are different draws.
[1:20:20] The results are. The little draws are the same
[1:20:22] they. Aren't they Aren't?
[1:20:24] They aren't. We fucking This was a positive
[1:20:27] draw. It wasn't a positive.
[1:20:28] One, it was a negative draw. I take more negatives out of
[1:20:30] this game than I take positives for you about this, for Milan, I
[1:20:34] think the same, I think more negatives than positives.
[1:20:36] But I'm not gonna yeah, 100% agree that there's more
[1:20:39] negatives than positives. But I still think the trajectory
[1:20:43] is positive, like trending upwards.
[1:20:45] I agree for for Milan. Yeah, for Milan.
[1:20:47] For UV, I'm still unsure. I'm still unsure if it's in
[1:20:50] that. To be honest, trade right now. 2
[1:20:52] door and I think you guys can all agree on this.
[1:20:55] He's doing better than you expect anyone does.
[1:20:57] That mean he's doing good, no? No, but he's doing better than
[1:21:01] you thought. He.
[1:21:01] Yeah, sure. Well, no, that means.
[1:21:03] He's good. You can't make a full a full
[1:21:04] analysis of the guy. It's been only you know what, 9
[1:21:07] games. I, I said you would finish top
[1:21:09] 4. I'm pretty sure top four, top
[1:21:11] five. So like I never said they've
[1:21:13] they would shit the bed. Top four, Top five isn't like
[1:21:16] you didn't predict. You didn't predict something out
[1:21:18] of the order. Aren't you, aren't you guys like
[1:21:21] one second? Let me just therefore.
[1:21:22] That leads to a further top 5th. I don't know if they're Milan's
[1:21:25] third, we're fifth not. First, not.
[1:21:28] Aroma first. We're what?
[1:21:28] No aroma monopoly are tied there's.
[1:21:30] A goal difference. There's no tide.
[1:21:32] Napoli are first. And Omar, yeah, there's Napoli
[1:21:34] won against Genoa. Did they tie on points they were
[1:21:38] both at? UVA are 1/5.
[1:21:39] Yeah, but goal difference Napoli's.
[1:21:40] Yeah, first, that's what we said.
[1:21:42] Whatever. OK.
[1:21:43] How many UVA are fifth on 12/4 points, three points off 3
[1:21:47] points and Milan third, two points off 3rd.
[1:21:51] It's very, very close. If I had to give my prediction,
[1:21:53] I still think Milan ends on top of UV at the end of the season.
[1:21:57] I think we have the squad to go on top of UV.
[1:21:59] We we have the one game a week that it definitely is a tax and
[1:22:03] has been showing it. But it's like everything's
[1:22:05] smooth sailing right now and like I have full trust and
[1:22:08] allegory, which is crazy to say. Yeah, I know.
[1:22:10] I think, I think Milan our. Tides will change.
[1:22:12] I don't think so. In a period of stability right
[1:22:15] now, which is like she said that was the goal for this Yeah, was
[1:22:18] to have that stability and listen, Allegory has them
[1:22:20] playing well. This is kind of like when we
[1:22:22] when we spoke about how this game would go last podcast or
[1:22:25] whatever, when we spoke about it, it was like you, you knew
[1:22:29] that Allegory would kind of play that that deep weight for UVA.
[1:22:33] Like I felt like UVA. I'm not sure what the possession
[1:22:35] stats were, but I think UVA had more.
[1:22:37] More. 5149. But there were there were
[1:22:40] moments. UVA there were periods. 51%,
[1:22:42] yeah, but we had. Like 6 quarters, period 0.
[1:22:44] Yeah, there were periods in the game where it's just like UVA
[1:22:47] were cycling the ball like they they kind of high possession.
[1:22:49] Milan, we're waiting for your time and opportunity and that's
[1:22:51] kind of how I thought the game would go.
[1:22:53] But at the end of the day, I think Milan lost this game.
[1:22:57] On to the deserving to win. I didn't.
[1:22:59] I didn't disagree with, I didn't say that before.
[1:23:04] I don't. I think the draw was, I think a
[1:23:05] draw was just as fair because Jonathan David had a pretty
[1:23:08] great a chance. I kind of think you're.
[1:23:09] Fucking whoop whoop whoop. Yeah, this is.
[1:23:11] For me, it's the pen. You finish the pen, it's a win.
[1:23:13] Like, yeah. Yeah, but we also, Jonathan
[1:23:15] David could have scored that goal and got the manual manual,
[1:23:18] Manual just guessed where to go and it was great.
[1:23:21] What do you save it with? His face or his arm?
[1:23:23] Not on his face. He didn't guess where to go.
[1:23:25] He just closed down the shooter. He just sprawled.
[1:23:27] He made himself as big as possible.
[1:23:30] He sprawled and he he, he got to.
[1:23:31] It when I, when I watched that save, I was actually like, OK,
[1:23:34] that's that. That's a world.
[1:23:35] Class Save. That's a world class.
[1:23:36] But he jumped before the ball was even contacted.
[1:23:38] But but you need to do that. The point is, is that the the
[1:23:42] like, everything happened so quickly.
[1:23:44] The ball got to Gotti so quickly, the fact that he had
[1:23:46] the reaction to run out and make himself as big as he did.
[1:23:50] Yeah, he just, he made himself big.
[1:23:51] Sideways, he didn't. Know no he ran outwards and then
[1:23:54] he spread his he approached the shooter he didn't just stay on
[1:23:56] his line like I would watch Bayan deer and or not yeah he
[1:24:00] went out it was a good save and approached and.
[1:24:01] Injured could have been in the top and then it could have been
[1:24:03] in the top corner like it could have been a goal.
[1:24:05] Yeah, but that's a fucking sick finish if you're.
[1:24:08] If you're. If you're just, if you're just
[1:24:09] putting it on net, he saves it. If we have to put all the
[1:24:14] chances together, Milan had the better chances.
[1:24:15] They should have finished way better because they were easier
[1:24:18] chances to finish. The layout chance was not
[1:24:20] insanely easy. We had more XG.
[1:24:22] It's just in total, yeah. Exactly.
[1:24:24] Man United 4. No, but we had a pen we should
[1:24:27] like. We should have won this game.
[1:24:28] Forget. XG bro, we both watched the
[1:24:30] game. We, I'm sure we both hyper
[1:24:31] analyzed the game, yeah. Milan should have won, but I
[1:24:34] think a draw is somewhat deserved.
[1:24:35] Yeah, that's what I said. I was best.
[1:24:37] To say 00 is fair. I think the the midfield that we
[1:24:39] have right now is very balanced and I'm optimistic about.
[1:24:42] It trust me I'm still on my hater shit though.
[1:24:44] I think I have to switch the time bro.
[1:24:46] Allegri might be that guy. Sure, brother on the last the
[1:24:49] last season, our most recent season with Allegri started off
[1:24:52] 3020. We had the best but.
[1:24:55] You didn't have the personnel. With the best record, we were
[1:24:57] fucking, everything was looking good.
[1:24:58] You're 1 Modric injury away from being ass.
[1:25:00] And then we got. Richie on the bench, though, you
[1:25:02] have who? Richie?
[1:25:04] I mean, I know he's. Not at a level, but that's.
[1:25:07] Not what I mean, but. So they're winning.
[1:25:10] They're winning games by one goal, that is.
[1:25:12] They're not winning by one goal. No, they're winning by two or
[1:25:14] three goals. Like Brazil.
[1:25:18] They're winning, they're winning 2 Nothing.
[1:25:20] We're we're. Dominating every game except
[1:25:22] maybe this one, where it's really 5050 and they.
[1:25:25] Beat Napoli by 1 and they beat Bologna.
[1:25:27] Yeah, it's true. The Napoli game, I kind of
[1:25:29] forgot about that one. We didn't dominate that game,
[1:25:30] but that was a win. At the end of the day, you sub
[1:25:33] off a police and you have an Inku coming on and I think
[1:25:36] that's something that I haven't seen at Milan in years, where a
[1:25:39] quality player comes off and you have another quality player
[1:25:41] coming on. I know Madrich is obviously way
[1:25:43] better than Richie, but if Madrich gets injured and Richie
[1:25:46] comes on, I'll still be okay. At least it's not Musa.
[1:25:49] What are the underlyings? Bro your back 3 is not strong.
[1:25:52] But but like UV? Isn't either, but I know yours
[1:25:54] is not strong. As I've been saying, it's not
[1:25:57] about the individual players, it's the if the system works,
[1:26:00] you could throw in anybody there and it would make.
[1:26:02] The last term at UV, yeah, but personnel didn't matter.
[1:26:06] Well, you had worst players. That's but that's the system is
[1:26:10] the the. Defensively.
[1:26:11] You're you're, it's the fact that you're Modrich.
[1:26:14] It's bailing out all your shit players at the back because
[1:26:16] their sole purpose is to get Modrich the ball so if Madrich
[1:26:20] gets injured your entire team is fucked.
[1:26:22] I'm gonna don't hypothesize on Madrich.
[1:26:25] I watched a game Pavlovich his literally his sole goal of in
[1:26:29] build up yeah is get the little guy in midfield.
[1:26:32] Like 30 yards a week, but. When Madrich gets injured,
[1:26:35] they're not gonna. They're not.
[1:26:37] The game plan's not gonna be Garrichi the ball.
[1:26:39] Why you acting like that's a guarantee?
[1:26:40] Yeah, like it's, it's one game a week.
[1:26:42] It's not like you guys. All by Highland and FPL.
[1:26:44] It's it's a fucking no. No, but I I troll with the
[1:26:47] hypothetical bro we're celebrating if Allen gets
[1:26:49] injured but Madrich but one game a week there's no reason for him
[1:26:52] to get injured. Really isn't holy jinx.
[1:26:56] Unreal Jinx Madrich won't get injured.
[1:26:59] No, no, no, no, he will. Knock on that word, bro.
[1:27:01] He looks healthy, but. He's running around.
[1:27:05] He's. 10 years younger. Yeah, bro, his Acls look really
[1:27:08] like sharp, sharp, solid. They don't look tight.
[1:27:11] They're ready to break at any point.
[1:27:12] For me, I, I agree that maybe the names that we have in
[1:27:15] defense are not good. Like Pavlovich is not good with
[1:27:18] his feet, Tomori's not good with his feet.
[1:27:20] Gabby is all right with his feet, but as a whole he has been
[1:27:23] working because they're defensively solid and in a in a
[1:27:25] good tactical shape. Yeah, it's a system.
[1:27:27] Yeah, and at the end of the day, that gets taxed.
[1:27:29] Like it doesn't matter if you're a Gabia or a Pavlovich or
[1:27:32] another hole, you'll still play good, you know what I mean?
[1:27:35] Like it's just Alleggity being good defensively.
[1:27:38] Anyway, that was that game, but I wanted to bring something else
[1:27:41] up. If you look at the Seria table
[1:27:43] right now, there is so much parody, which brings me to the
[1:27:47] point that I think Seria is the most competitive league in the
[1:27:50] world. That's so false.
[1:27:52] It has to be the Premier League. It has to be the Premier League.
[1:27:54] I I. Completely disagree.
[1:27:56] At this point, nobody can say who the Seria favorite is for
[1:28:00] the Scudetto. You have Roma there, you have
[1:28:02] Napoli there, Neilan. Either Napoli or Inter.
[1:28:06] Yeah, right. Now.
[1:28:06] It's not true, some people would say Mila is looking.
[1:28:08] Roma is on fire, okay? So then you could say, okay,
[1:28:11] it's Liverpool or Arsenal, but some people are saying man
[1:28:13] cities looking good, some people are saying Chelsea is looking.
[1:28:16] Good. No because the Premier League to
[1:28:17] me has two favorites. 2 distinct favorites.
[1:28:19] It's Arsenal. Me City has two distinct
[1:28:22] favorites. I just not this year.
[1:28:24] Okay, I disagree. I disagree with a lot of
[1:28:26] questions. On Napoli as well, like the
[1:28:28] every everything. Has a lot of question marks got
[1:28:30] around Liverpool? But Napoli, there's obviously
[1:28:32] favorites like Napoli is the favorite to win it, but.
[1:28:35] Milan beat them to 1. Exactly what people consider you
[1:28:37] guys a favor or or one of the contenders you just took it's a
[1:28:41] six point swing versus. Arsenal are considered.
[1:28:43] The favorite? Yeah, I do.
[1:28:44] Liverpool beat them so. What are we doing here that's a
[1:28:47] favorite versus another favorite?
[1:28:49] Chelsea beat them. What?
[1:28:51] What's your what's what? What are we doing here?
[1:28:53] Like the top five and top 6IN CEDIA are all teams that if they
[1:28:57] do like you could say that they are kind of in the mix like in
[1:29:01] the Prem you could you? Go down to you, go down to 12th
[1:29:03] place and you could say teams are in the mix.
[1:29:06] For what? Both leagues, yeah.
[1:29:09] I know. I think that at a certain point
[1:29:10] you understand that there will be a separation in in case.
[1:29:13] Yeah, like I said, yeah, Roma to be go deep.
[1:29:16] I can, I can. Expect Roma to go deep.
[1:29:18] OK. Yeah, sure.
[1:29:19] Well, the way they're playing Roma.
[1:29:20] Roma's been lost five wins. They're they're looking
[1:29:22] spectacular. Crystal Palace is looking
[1:29:24] spectacular right now. I expect them to be in a title
[1:29:26] race at the end of the season. No, they look good.
[1:29:28] They look good. I'm not.
[1:29:29] Probably, I will bet. I will bet money right now
[1:29:32] Roma's at least 10 points behind by the end of the season, no?
[1:29:35] How much, How much, How much? 100 bucks. 50 bucks. 50 bucks
[1:29:39] What the fuck $20.20 bucks? Only firms that see Broke Boy,
[1:29:43] by the way. I mean shit, fucking 100 bucks.
[1:29:46] 500 bucks 1000. Well, I mean, I'm at.
[1:29:49] The charity Thousand You're broke.
[1:29:50] You. Probably don't even remember
[1:29:52] what you bet 500 have to go to charity here.
[1:29:54] Let me write it. I don't have much he.
[1:29:55] Doesn't remember see. Oh if you guys could find the
[1:29:57] clip of me saying Isaac is better than Mbappe.
[1:30:00] Honestly doesn't exist bro that should donate.
[1:30:03] Who? Are wants to donate.
[1:30:04] He's begging. Careful, which charity are you
[1:30:06] donating it to? I don't know.
[1:30:07] Whatever. Whoever finds it can pick which
[1:30:11] charity that is, and it's not. I'm not, I'm not.
[1:30:13] If your name is fucking Jared, I'm not donating to fucking
[1:30:17] Jared's bank account. Bro you have to find an actual
[1:30:19] charity. Back, back to the point.
[1:30:20] What was the bet that we just made Roma 10 points?
[1:30:24] 10 points of the like, they'll be within 10 points of the
[1:30:26] title. Like now, by the end of 95,
[1:30:28] they're. I'll take that. 85 or higher.
[1:30:31] My point is not. The Premier League has the best
[1:30:33] teams of any league in the world.
[1:30:35] That's not my point. If you are a casual, a football
[1:30:38] casual, you're choosing a league to follow.
[1:30:39] Seria is the most competitive league, the most entertaining
[1:30:43] league. Because Atlanta versus UVA is
[1:30:45] close. Inter versus UVA is close.
[1:30:47] All these games are close. I don't care about a Crystal
[1:30:51] Palace one. One versus Liverpool, I don't
[1:30:53] give a shit. OK Oh my God.
[1:30:59] What a horrible opinion. It was a because you can't light
[1:31:02] up. It was.
[1:31:03] So if I say something that's just inherently.
[1:31:05] I don't think you have. I don't think you have the
[1:31:09] corners Do it. Millie, do I do it?
[1:31:10] But what? What the fuck?
[1:31:12] What? What do you want me to say?
[1:31:15] Say anything with the prim. But what do you want me to say?
[1:31:19] Say your argument for the Prem. He literally just said the Prem
[1:31:21] or little boys to say. Yes.
[1:31:23] Now how you're gonna? How are you gonna answer as a
[1:31:25] Prem fanatic? Because you're supposed to be
[1:31:26] the defender. So here here, if you guys want
[1:31:29] to watch the best players in the world, you don't you don't go to
[1:31:31] city op amigo. If you want to watch the best
[1:31:34] teams in the world. You also don't go to city op PSG
[1:31:37] if you want to watch entertaining young players.
[1:31:40] You don't go to City A Barcelona there if you wanna if you wanna
[1:31:43] go watch players dribble and take players on one V1.
[1:31:46] Okafor is right there. You do not watch City A.
[1:31:48] Liziga. If you wanna watch dinosaurs of
[1:31:52] managers, then you can watch City A.
[1:31:54] There you go, you got less. Guardiola.
[1:31:57] OK, so remember when I started, I said this distinct word, it
[1:31:59] started with AC, it was like maybe 8 letters long as
[1:32:02] competitive. If you wanna watch teams go ass
[1:32:04] for ass in city A every single. Week living up to.
[1:32:07] You gotta do that, bro. You got that, bro.
[1:32:09] You got that? I have bro.
[1:32:11] Wasn't enough passion in which you just said if armor?
[1:32:13] Yeah, what? Do you think would be more
[1:32:15] entertaining realist like? Be honest, Be honest.
[1:32:17] Do you understand? Like Fiorentina como or like
[1:32:20] Nottingham Forest wolves? Fiorentina como.
[1:32:22] Bro if FPL didn't exist you think I would you under the
[1:32:25] Bournemouth you understand that's the difference.
[1:32:28] Between 1st and 10th is five points.
[1:32:30] Who's this? Inside.
[1:32:31] Yeah, as well. The Mighty.
[1:32:32] Premier, we didn't say that. Bro, go check.
[1:32:35] Oh sure, I'll go check Como's. Como's 9th or 10th place and
[1:32:37] they're on 9 points. The leaders on 15.
[1:32:39] It's 6. No problem man 6 They're como's
[1:32:42] in 7th by the way. OK, so what's that?
[1:32:44] So 10th you wanna go down? Look at the points.
[1:32:46] Go bad for bad. Fucked up on four more.
[1:32:48] Fuck is on football, Bum up's on some 10, calories on 8.
[1:32:51] Point. So you wanna follow five points?
[1:32:53] OK, guys, if you wanna follow no, no.
[1:32:57] If you want to. Follow a league that can't even
[1:32:59] get their foot mob fucking correct.
[1:33:01] That foot mob doesn't even give a fuck about that.
[1:33:02] That happened. I don't know because but on your
[1:33:04] points they should be 7th. Look at this shit.
[1:33:07] This is your league by the way mam.
[1:33:09] Did they get a point deduction or something?
[1:33:11] Mam, I don't know. Maybe if you watch the games,
[1:33:13] Where were you? Joey, what's Joy doing that?
[1:33:15] I. Don't know you're not paying
[1:33:16] something, but basically the. Difference from 1st to 10th is
[1:33:19] 8. Points.
[1:33:21] Do we lift that? Not over FC, do we?
[1:33:25] Regardless, at the end of every season what it's always the
[1:33:29] title race in Cerias within 633 games, 6 points.
[1:33:32] Well went title race last year, went down to the final day so.
[1:33:36] Cerias consistently the most competitive league consistently.
[1:33:39] Whether you call it ass or not, it's fucking consistently
[1:33:42] competitive. But we did a watch along for the
[1:33:44] final. Maybe.
[1:33:46] Maybe. But it's competitive though.
[1:33:48] Bro Rasmus Hoyland is fucking spearheading a title.
[1:33:50] Track any player that leaves Man United gets.
[1:33:52] Better, better. Oh my God.
[1:33:54] How have you not opened your eyes to this yet?
[1:33:57] Bro we we literally said last year there's no saving Hoyland.
[1:34:00] And he's been saved by the mighty Conte.
[1:34:02] You could turn water into wine, yeah.
[1:34:04] So Hoyland's a good player. Now he is, Yeah, As soon as he
[1:34:08] left Man United, he is. Oh my God.
[1:34:10] Not a problem podcast. Wrap up the pod.
[1:34:13] Not a problem for me. Wrap up it wrap.
[1:34:15] It up who's better? Wrap it up, Fuck.
[1:34:17] Magnet or Napoli? I actually think that would be a
[1:34:21] very good game. Oh.
[1:34:22] My. Hold on, hold on.
[1:34:26] I actually think that would be a seriously a good melon.
[1:34:28] Sunderland, man, That's the love City.
[1:34:33] Yeah. Man United versus Roma.
[1:34:35] We're fucking smoking Roma. Oh.
[1:34:36] You're stupid. We are.
[1:34:38] You're. Fucking slapping Roma around
[1:34:40] like a fucking stripper. Soule 3 in your fucking Dome
[1:34:43] bro. 33 bro easy soule shit bro I'm.
[1:34:47] Not the latest city up proven ass.
[1:34:49] Soule is Jeremy. Soule is Jeremy Pino.
[1:34:52] You're stupid. Yeah, sure.
[1:34:53] Respect Soule I. Mean Jeremy?
[1:34:55] Didn't Jeremy Pino just drop a brace or brace of assists?
[1:34:57] He's. Got to yell at Wish bro, he's on
[1:34:59] that mic before. Midweek.
[1:35:00] Oh yeah, yeah, midweek. Drop the brace.
[1:35:03] Of assists does Okafor. No, it's not the Syria.
[1:35:06] Okafor true quiz it balling out you follow him the lead.
[1:35:08] Mctominy and Hoyland are literally the faces of your
[1:35:12] fucking. Lose the face of your
[1:35:13] organization. Just pulled out four emotes
[1:35:15] after you scored in a Premier League match game.
[1:35:17] I think we have to calm it down. Can you remind me where the
[1:35:19] Ivorian Messi comes from? From Italy?
[1:35:23] Where did the Egyptian Prince come from?
[1:35:26] From Chelsea, what about the Brazilian?
[1:35:29] The Brazilian cat Allison. Don't mind me some Brazilian.
[1:35:35] Roma. Bro, half the process, we're
[1:35:36] watching these, we're watching all these prime games.
[1:35:38] We're like half these. Half these brothers played in
[1:35:40] Setia. All right for Leeds.
[1:35:42] We must calm down. We must calm down because I have
[1:35:45] been searching high and low, because it's international
[1:35:48] break. I have been searching on the
[1:35:50] highest of highs in the highest Himalayan ranges in the lowest
[1:35:53] of lows. Milan fans from the Andes to the
[1:35:56] mountain. Exactly and I've come up with a
[1:35:58] so rare player of the week that honestly might be one for the
[1:36:02] ages, but first I will tell you about so rare.
[1:36:04] If you guys don't already know what so rare?
[1:36:06] So rare is a online digital platform where you can buy and
[1:36:09] sell players compete in weekly tournaments to win cash prizes.
[1:36:13] If you think a player is going to go up in value, you go buy
[1:36:16] his car on so rare and maybe next week he banks in a couple
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[1:36:22] If you guys sign up with our link down below in the
[1:36:24] subscription you can get up to €150 and sign up bonuses.
[1:36:28] Boys gas, it is time to pick your So Rare player of the week.
[1:36:32] Volvo, Are you ready to make some money this week?
[1:36:34] As always, bro, if you've been tailing my picks, you know
[1:36:36] you're up expeditious. Sesco.
[1:36:38] Sesco. Sesco.
[1:36:39] Sesco. Sesco.
[1:36:40] Venette. Doesn't pick him, scores a goal.
[1:36:42] OK, got it. So.
[1:36:42] What you're saying is you have like every week you can start
[1:36:44] five players, by the way, you're starting three if.
[1:36:46] You guys were holding the Seschkos right now you're
[1:36:48] fucking making bank. I can't.
[1:36:50] Catch. Oh my God, Oh my.
[1:36:53] God, Billy, Billy, go do your pick.
[1:36:55] Listen, gentlemen, you know I like to play it safe and one but
[1:37:00] one Dawn that I think will still ball out.
[1:37:04] No, no, no. Voltamad, Voltamad.
[1:37:08] It was mine. It was my dawn.
[1:37:11] Newcastle legend already, are we?
[1:37:12] Allowed to do. This Who's he playing against?
[1:37:15] He's playing versus a team. Germany.
[1:37:17] Northern Ireland? Could it be?
[1:37:18] Northern Ireland, Northern Ireland, I think he's starting.
[1:37:21] Yeah, he starts. I mean invest stocks.
[1:37:22] Right now he's the best German striker available.
[1:37:25] Yep, yes. So who's to say he doesn't bang
[1:37:27] in a a couple during international?
[1:37:28] Assisted his last game. And he's tearing up the Premier
[1:37:31] League right now, Tearing it up. Luxembourg and N Northern
[1:37:35] Ireland. Gentlemen, we are feasting on
[1:37:37] solar. Yes, cooking basically.
[1:37:39] Also I forgot to mention, besides the values of the
[1:37:41] players, increasing the values the in game, basically in the
[1:37:45] weekly tournaments, if your player scores or assists, it's
[1:37:48] almost like FPL, he gains more points for your squad.
[1:37:51] So that's how you win the weekly tournaments.
[1:37:52] So a Voltamata scores maybe gets more points in your weekly
[1:37:55] tournament, but also increases in value.
[1:37:57] Oh, we are on the Voltamata train and we've been, we've been
[1:38:00] on the Voltamata train. Firms even try to, really.
[1:38:01] Get a couple jumping in the Voltamata train.
[1:38:03] Oh, I've been on the. You've been.
[1:38:05] I'm the conductor. No, I'm the conductor.
[1:38:07] I've been there. Doctor, I'm there.
[1:38:09] You've. Got that in each nose.
[1:38:11] Who is your so rare player of the week?
[1:38:13] It's going to be a Manchester United player.
[1:38:16] I got a first time call up actually to his national team.
[1:38:21] He's been riding the wave. If we have the same player, who?
[1:38:25] Mateta. Oh, OK, OK.
[1:38:27] I'm going Philip. I'm going Jean.
[1:38:28] Philip Mateta. That's actually a good.
[1:38:29] One, I think he's actually been balling out and it's his first
[1:38:32] call up to the French and national team.
[1:38:33] I was debating between him and Nekatique, but I think I'm
[1:38:36] gonna, I'm gonna just. When his asses go to the bench.
[1:38:38] See, now that's. The risk that we're taking.
[1:38:40] That's the risk, but high risk, high reward.
[1:38:42] But you're getting him low right now.
[1:38:43] Yeah, save him from when he gets back for the Prem.
[1:38:45] Yeah, bro. Mateta, another asset, by the
[1:38:48] way. I think yeah, I don't know what
[1:38:50] Varvir's tactic because it's just it's just not to be good in
[1:38:52] Sovere, bro. Wow.
[1:38:55] Barbara just claims that wheel spins and calls it a day.
[1:38:57] I think we think steadily spin and so rare.
[1:39:00] Stick to FPL, bro. You're.
[1:39:01] Gonna let him talk to you like that, It's crazy.
[1:39:03] It's crazy because I'm first. Barbara, why don't you send your
[1:39:06] Why don't you send your goon to come fight me?
[1:39:08] I am I'm. Talking I want high reward, high
[1:39:13] risk, high reward as per usual. Or firms FC.
[1:39:16] We're looking at the Brazilian national team first call up.
[1:39:18] Angelotti loves him, apparently. Butchi, Butch Igor Jesus stocks
[1:39:22] invested. We'll see if he starts, but if
[1:39:24] he does this as an investment to the moon.
[1:39:26] To the moon. Good luck, bro.
[1:39:29] Igor, he's just staying in the Brazilian national team.
[1:39:31] And Nottingham Forest, there's always an upper trend.
[1:39:36] Upper trend. I don't know, with Ange at the
[1:39:38] helm. Not with Ange.
[1:39:40] Well, Chris Wood, Igor, Jesus. Igor, you think he's going to
[1:39:43] play over with Charleston, who you have been twerking for all
[1:39:46] I. Haven't been twerking.
[1:39:47] Stop sending me trade offers for Charleston bro.
[1:39:49] I don't twerk for Charleston, I think he's a bad player, but
[1:39:53] FPL, as I never said, he's a good player.
[1:39:55] So he's going to ask Paula. Paula, tell them.
[1:39:59] You tell him, Paula. Is this how it feels?
[1:40:01] Yeah. It's on.
[1:40:03] You can't do anything about it. Exactly.
[1:40:06] You tell him, Millie. 1000 yards.
[1:40:09] That's crazy. But he goes Who's actually he
[1:40:12] rates him, so we'll see. I risk high reward situation.
[1:40:15] How do you know, right? Just got called up for the first
[1:40:17] time. Yeah, OK.
[1:40:18] Yeah. And he's he's managers.
[1:40:19] Call up players that they don't rate too.
[1:40:20] Like Mateta? No Mateta, he rates.
[1:40:23] Actually have good words. Check the interview, I'll show
[1:40:25] you after maybe. I just want to mention though, I
[1:40:30] have. Ultimate Oh, that's true.
[1:40:31] Yeah. We're we're the on the ultimatic
[1:40:33] train. Why?
[1:40:33] Did you pick that? Honestly me sharing a a pic with
[1:40:36] D1 Glazer. D1 Glazer No.
[1:40:38] A million million on AD 1 Glazer Does that make me AD one Glazer?
[1:40:42] But no. I picked Sibari last week,
[1:40:44] Champions League goal versus Leverkusen.
[1:40:46] Yeah. Then on the weekend scored
[1:40:47] another goal. Not bad.
[1:40:49] Germany seems to be my If I was a scout, I'm going to the
[1:40:52] Germany. But I don't give a fuck.
[1:40:53] Sibari could score hat trick till the end of the season is
[1:40:55] fucking sword cards not moving one fucking cent.
[1:40:58] That's how you think, but the market they think in that.
[1:41:01] Market is not saying that. Thank God the markets are not
[1:41:04] influenced by Barbara FC. From mateta mateta could score a
[1:41:07] brace and his prices in skyrocket and Volvo FC, it's
[1:41:11] like Bitcoin I'm it's like buy $1.00 of mateta cards please
[1:41:16] 'cause this is this is going to the.
[1:41:17] But there's different, there's different rarities, like you can
[1:41:19] get like a 1 of 300 Mateta card. I have one O 1.
[1:41:22] No you don't bro. It's.
[1:41:23] Not like you can't cap I, but Mateta, the card that I just
[1:41:27] invested in is one O 1. It's not.
[1:41:30] Don't. Don't believe that.
[1:41:30] No, do not believe him, because on solar you can actually look
[1:41:33] up what the rare cards are and who owns them, and you will not
[1:41:35] see, you do not see Barber's Pocket as one of those things,
[1:41:38] first owner, first owner, but that that one owner. 101 with
[1:41:41] that, that. But actually, if anyone if by
[1:41:44] the way, if you guys skip this segment, you're missing ball
[1:41:47] 'cause we actually thoroughly enjoy these solar rare segments
[1:41:49] are fun and we talk about it off camera.
[1:41:50] So not for real. Definitely, definitely go check
[1:41:53] out solar rare link is down below in the description.
[1:41:55] Make sure to get your sign up bonus, be there or be square.
[1:41:57] Definitely. That's episode 78.
[1:41:59] Yep, we're heading over to Patreon now to do our Outside
[1:42:01] the Box segment, so we will see you Don's.
[1:42:04] There, wait, explain what outside the box is.
[1:42:06] Lots of the box, it's just more. We're talking outside the box.
[1:42:09] What? The fuck is the box box?
[1:42:10] Yeah, philosophical, philosophical.
[1:42:12] Sorry, I was going. No, I said philosophical,
[1:42:18] philosophical, philosophical falafel.
[1:42:22] But basically, I don't know. We had a conversation on the
[1:42:25] podcast like probably like 2 weeks ago or last week, I'm not
[1:42:27] sure which one, where it was like at the beginning where we
[1:42:29] got deep. That's like a regular Outside
[1:42:31] the box podcast. Oh yeah, for sure.
[1:42:33] Where we speak about stuff, that's.
[1:42:34] Outside, outside the world, the sport some.
[1:42:36] Football. Some weeks it's maybe a video
[1:42:39] games. Video games, Movie shows.
[1:42:41] Music. Politics.
[1:42:43] Yeah, politics, Politics. That was actually a good jogger
[1:42:46] conversation you. Never know what we're gonna be
[1:42:47] talking about on there. It's literally it's outside the
[1:42:49] box. Literally outside the box.
[1:42:51] So go check it out episode 70 and everyone we will see you
[1:42:54] guys next week. We're.
[1:42:55] Finding out that's as he sent patrol.

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