# Bruce Randall on Using AI without Losing Human Judgment

An episode of ["Mindset2Results" with Elena Apalkova](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1739157956), 20 Oct 2026, 35 min.

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What happens to your judgment when AI starts thinking for you? Elena Apalkova and Bruce Randall discuss using AI to accelerate business decisions without surrendering intuition, discernment or responsibility. They explain why better prompts matter, how verified sources reduce risk, and why business owners should begin with one specific problem, review the output and make the final call. (0:00) AI, Judgment, and Human Balance (2:24) The AI Human Paradox (11:24) Building Safeguards Around AI (17:05) Prompting for Better Answers (24:17) Small Business Uses and Verification (30:25) Intuition, Discernment, and Takeaways

## Transcript

[0:02] Hello.
[0:03] Hello.
[0:03] Welcome to mindset to results.
[0:05] And topic today is if AI can think for you, what happens to your judgment?
[0:13] I can draft your strategy, answer your customers, and advise you on your next move.
[0:21] But if you keep handing over and thinking, what happens to your own judgment?
[0:28] Today, I'm joined by technology executive and author Bruce Randle to explore how we can use
[0:36] AI to become more capable while staying unmistakenably human.
[0:42] Hi, Bruce.
[0:43] Welcome to Mindset to Results.
[0:45] Thank you.
[0:46] I'm pleased to be here today.
[0:48] Yes.
[0:49] I'm also very happy to have AI enthusiasts and people who really go go deep into this new,
[0:59] trend and all these new technologies and willing to share with the world, from their
[1:05] experience and knowledge.
[1:07] So welcome.
[1:08] And before we start, I would like, to ask you a question which I usually ask our guests.
[1:13] What makes you so passionate to be here today and share with the world your knowledge,
[1:19] expertise?
[1:21] Well, what I'm trying to do is in this part of life, I'm trying to give back so that people
[1:27] that don't have the knowledge I have, if they'd like that, then they can listen and they can
[1:31] gain some knowledge.
[1:33] And I'm doing that with the with the research papers I write, with the website, with the news
[1:38] site that I have.
[1:39] It's all giving information on these topics out to the public.
[1:45] Yeah.
[1:45] Thank you so much.
[1:46] And this is why we are here
[1:48] today
[1:49] Yeah.
[1:49] To results because the purpose of our podcast was to give the stage, give the microphone to
[1:57] people who really lived life, who had experience, and who want to share with the
[2:02] people who are looking for it and can implement that knowledge.
[2:09] Yes.
[2:09] So, Bruce, your book series is called the AI human paradox.
[2:16] What is the paradox, and when did it become real for you in your own work?
[2:24] Yeah.
[2:25] The paradox is that is tech...
[2:27] This technology, which is AI and quantum, starts coming in and taking part in more and
[2:33] more in our life, and it affects everybody.
[2:37] You know, as we rely more on technology, what happens to our soft skills?
[2:42] And that's really the question and the paradox because there's pros and cons to that.
[2:48] But you have to understand what they are so that you know how to manage the technology
[2:53] instead of just relying on it.
[2:59] Yes.
[3:00] It is so true.
[3:01] When I was child, I remember that I was so fond of reading books.
[3:07] I could read books for hours, and I could have such thick book.
[3:12] And if I really wanted to know what will be next, I could spend just, like, one day, maybe
[3:18] five, six hours, and I wanted to finish that book.
[3:21] Yes.
[3:22] And so when we were reading, we we were developing our creativity, imagination, yes,
[3:29] thinking ability.
[3:31] And now what we see when mobile is, started to be a trend.
[3:36] Yes.
[3:36] So Yeah.
[3:37] This new generation, they just know how to click.
[3:41] Yes.
[3:41] And when they click, they don't see.
[3:43] They just, like, used to click and just get the answer.
[3:48] Yes.
[3:48] So...
[3:49] And now we see the next stage with AI.
[3:52] Right?
[3:52] Like, many people now just prefer to ask AI to give them answer instead of thinking even for
[3:59] something that they can do themselves, I don't speak about some, like, really specific
[4:06] knowledge.
[4:07] But even about answering their friend or answering their colleague, they go to AI, ask
[4:13] what should I tell.
[4:15] Right.
[4:16] And and that's that's...
[4:19] What you're doing there is is you're relying more on the technology, you know, clicking and
[4:24] so forth, they're not using their soft skills as much.
[4:28] And I know through my meditation and my Reiki master practice that when you get more in touch
[4:36] with your inner self, you become expanded and more aware.
[4:41] So by relying on technology, your awareness starts to shrink, and you don't get...
[4:47] For example, if you're getting ready to leave in the morning and it's a beautiful day.
[4:53] Sun's out, not a cloud in the sky, and and your subconscious says, grab the umbrella.
[4:59] And you say to yourself, I don't need it.
[5:01] It's a beautiful day.
[5:01] So you leave, go about your day, and then all of a sudden, this cloud...
[5:05] The storm comes in, the clouds open up, and you get soaked.
[5:09] And you say, you know, I gotta listen to myself next time.
[5:12] I should have brought the umbrella.
[5:15] That's...
[5:15] That type of thing starts to decrease if you don't use it, and you go more in the reliance
[5:22] of the technology, and you get disconnected with yourself more that way.
[5:27] So there's a balance in here.
[5:28] As everything, if you go in excess, it's not a good thing.
[5:32] But balance and everything tends to work out better.
[5:35] And in my books, talk about what this balance is, what the risks are, what the pros and cons
[5:40] are, and how to stay human in this technological overflow that we're getting right
[5:46] now, now and in the future.
[5:50] Yes.
[5:50] You're so right.
[5:52] That intuition, which is, a gift, and it is related to the mental faculties is like that
[6:00] our mind, which only we as humans have and no other creatures have, no animals, and insects
[6:09] have that.
[6:09] Right?
[6:10] Like, they only operate by programs which already, like, predesigned, and only human
[6:16] beings have this, high mental tool.
[6:20] It's called intuition.
[6:22] Right?
[6:22] And it needs to be developed as the every muscle.
[6:25] If we don't use legs or hands...
[6:28] Yes.
[6:29] So we know that people who, after some accident, just stay a few months in the bed,
[6:35] They have to learn how to walk again.
[6:38] Right?
[6:39] And the same, if we don't use these tools which we have, as you mentioned, one of them is
[6:44] intuition, it will not be there.
[6:47] We have to use it, actively.
[6:49] And, of course, as you said, if we...
[6:52] Instead of using intuition and knowing exactly and developing our mind as human beings...
[6:58] Because, after all, no AI can replace humans.
[7:04] Right?
[7:04] Because they just know the...
[7:07] Based on facts, but humans are much bigger.
[7:09] Like, we have sensors.
[7:10] We have other things how we get this information from really...
[7:17] Reality, right, like, from our life.
[7:19] And this is also very important to remember.
[7:22] As much as we want to use these tools, we also have to remember that we are human beings, and
[7:30] we have been given all this potential to create everything we want.
[7:35] And AI can just be a certain part of our life, and it shouldn't, replace our cognitive
[7:42] function and ability to think and communicate as humans with each other.
[7:47] Well, let me back up, Suge.
[7:49] You mentioned that consciousness is unique to humans, and that's human consciousness.
[7:55] But we don't know if other things have different types of consciousness because we're
[7:59] stuck on our consciousness as the only consciousness.
[8:02] And my experience says that a lot of other things are conscious, but many of us, because
[8:08] we don't develop it, can't connect with those.
[8:09] Some some people can, and other people can't, and that's that's my whole point here.
[8:15] But with technology, it's it's a matter of using the technology and then utilizing your
[8:26] decision choices, your emotional, your your experiential life in helping make those
[8:33] decisions because pure intelligence is good.
[8:37] But in our world, pure intelligence is gonna lead us in the bad direction.
[8:42] For example, if you tell a paperclip company that's managed by AI, make paperclips, make as
[8:48] many as you can, and make them most efficient the way that you can make them, they'll
[8:55] decimate the earth to make paperclips, not caring about anything else because that's their
[9:00] one order.
[9:01] Right?
[9:02] We, as humans, have a balanced order, and we need to take that with AI.
[9:07] So with the intelligence and our our emotional and and learned experiences, we can put the two
[9:14] together and make better balanced decisions going forward than just relying on AI or just
[9:21] relying on our choices.
[9:23] So it's a partnership, and it's kinda like a hybrid because AI and quantum are the newer
[9:29] technologies, and quantum's being developed now.
[9:32] I believe that there's two markets.
[9:34] There's the public market, and there's the market behind closed doors.
[9:38] And I have contacts that makes me believe that.
[9:41] So behind closed doors never reports on what they have.
[9:47] In public, they're reporting all the time.
[9:49] I believe we have quantum and we have a, you know, SI or ASI in behind closed doors.
[9:56] It's just not in public right now.
[9:58] So when you look at that, both markets in the public, it's very important to put the human
[10:05] with the AI so that we evaluate the answers, and we make the choice as to what and how to
[10:12] use it instead of just relying AI.
[10:14] Does that make sense?
[10:15] Yeah.
[10:16] Yeah.
[10:16] Totally totally makes sense.
[10:18] As you said, as far as we develop AI, right, and go into that, direction, we have to also
[10:28] grow in our awareness.
[10:30] Not that we develop AI and we shrink in in Right.
[10:34] So it's...
[10:35] We borrow together.
[10:36] That is why we shouldn't give more importance to AI than our personal personal growth as
[10:42] human beings.
[10:44] Yeah.
[10:44] And it's situational.
[10:45] It depends.
[10:46] You know, sometimes if you're looking for an answer and they give you answer and you vet it
[10:50] out and you you can document that it's true, that with your in...
[10:56] You know, with your own human intelligence and and emotional unlearned experiences can
[11:03] actually make that palatable in in the real world where just intelligence, it wouldn't it
[11:11] wouldn't mix well.
[11:12] So you need both for it to mix well in the...
[11:15] In, you know, in our world.
[11:16] And it...
[11:17] As we go up in in importance of tasks, it becomes more and more important.
[11:24] Yes.
[11:24] Yes.
[11:25] So true.
[11:26] Bruce, can you take us into a specific moment while building an AI application when you
[11:33] thought this is powerful, but we need to be careful?
[11:39] Yeah.
[11:40] There's a couple instances there.
[11:42] The first one was one that I follow, which is, Neuralink.
[11:49] And when they put the first chip in in the gentleman's head, his name is Nolan, and he was
[11:55] thinking, and the computer was responding to his thoughts and moving to where he wanted it
[12:00] to go.
[12:01] He said, the mouse always goes where I want it to go, but sometimes it moves before I think,
[12:09] but it always goes to the right spot.
[12:11] So that's precognition that they're they're reading from him before he thinks about it and
[12:17] responding.
[12:18] So that's one important point.
[12:19] The other important point is that we we have our own abilities that we all have at different
[12:32] levels.
[12:32] I've developed mine extensively over the years, and that's why my views on AI and quantum are a
[12:38] little bit different because I'm deeply into, you know, my my softer skills.
[12:45] And I think the combination is really the key.
[12:49] And when I was building a site that I...
[12:56] I'd never built a site before in my life.
[12:59] And I was in this program building it, and all of a sudden, I told it what I wanted it to do,
[13:06] and it did everything, coding and everything, and produced not only what I wanted, but it
[13:13] gave me a website, a URL, and and a front page that was absolutely beautiful.
[13:21] And it went over and above.
[13:23] And I said, well, this is impressive.
[13:26] Now I wanted to do this, but I didn't ask it to do it.
[13:30] That was my next step, but it included it all in one step.
[13:33] And when I look at that and I say I can anticipate what I want, we have to be careful
[13:38] in some of these technologies because it may anticipate further than we wanna go and may go
[13:44] in the wrong direction.
[13:45] Right?
[13:46] So I think we just need to be aware of that and managing it, which the AI companies have done a
[13:50] pretty good job of managing it so far and not releasing the things that that are hard to
[13:57] control.
[13:58] They're keeping them behind the closed doors.
[14:00] I think that's a good balance right now.
[14:02] Now whether it continues is anybody's guess.
[14:04] But right now, we're we're actually in a pretty good position right now.
[14:08] Yes.
[14:09] Yes.
[14:10] So true.
[14:10] We can use advantages of AI and save so much time.
[14:16] Yes.
[14:16] Because if we want to do this work as we did before, it would be...
[14:20] Take so much, maybe weeks, right, and time
[14:23] Yeah.
[14:24] People and assets like investment.
[14:27] But now it can be so much, and we can have our time to do something that AI cannot do, like
[14:33] some more that requires human being.
[14:37] What should a business own alone from that...
[14:40] This experience?
[14:42] Well, there's various different levels of business owners, some that that really haven't
[14:47] gone into AI or quantum at all, Others that have gone in and tried different things, but
[14:54] they haven't done it in an organized way that...
[14:56] Where they can build on each one.
[14:58] And then other companies that have have had a strategy, and each each AI piece they've put in
[15:06] they've built on, and they've got a, you know, a process in in going right now.
[15:11] And I think for all of them, as the AIs get more capable, they need to understand that, and
[15:21] they need to understand how it can help and and hinder them, and they need to put safeguards in
[15:28] place for that.
[15:29] And companies that really haven't gone into AI right now, you know, it's it's not gonna solve
[15:35] all the problems, but it's gonna it's gonna differentiate them from the competitors in
[15:41] their field.
[15:42] And what I say is that if you don't get into this, then the competitors you have, if they
[15:48] do, in two years, they're gonna be so far ahead of you that you're not...
[15:52] You're gonna have a hard time catching up.
[15:54] So it's really needed that you do something and get involved in this or talk to somebody who
[15:59] can help you get involved so that you can start this process and that you can you can may...
[16:04] Maintain your market share and so forth in spite of what your competitors may be doing.
[16:12] Exactly.
[16:13] Exactly.
[16:13] It's so true.
[16:14] Like, before people were searching in Google.
[16:17] Right?
[16:17] Like, they were looking for companies or services.
[16:21] So now they go in and ask Chargepti.
[16:24] And, many referrals are done now through Chargepti.
[16:29] Yes.
[16:29] And it analyzes, like, references, like, other sources, and, this is where people start
[16:37] looking now.
[16:38] Because if they continue doing the old way, as you said, in couple of years, they will be so
[16:43] much behind that it will be really difficult to catch up.
[16:48] Right.
[16:48] That's correct.
[16:50] That's correct.
[16:51] Yes.
[16:51] So another question I have.
[16:53] How can someone tell whether AI is helping them think more clearly or quietly, making them less
[17:01] willing to think for themselves.
[17:05] Well, it depends how you use AI.
[17:09] For example, if you're if you're trying to quiet your mind and you're trying to build your
[17:13] awareness, there are things that you can get to help you.
[17:17] Like, there's apps that can help you quiet your mind.
[17:20] You sit quietly.
[17:21] There's guided meditations and so forth.
[17:24] If you don't know where to go to get any of these, you can certainly search an AI
[17:29] specifically with what you're looking to do and then go through what they provide to see if you
[17:34] can find the one that that sits well with you that you resonate with and then use that one.
[17:40] So you can use it as a tool like a search engine, but it's much more effective because it
[17:46] gives you specifically what you want instead of links for pages that you have to open up and
[17:52] decide if that's what you want or not.
[17:54] Right?
[17:54] It's just a shorter, more time more time and cost effective way of doing it.
[18:00] And the more specific you can get with AI, the better the result is.
[18:04] And I...
[18:04] It's called prompting, and there's courses you can take on how to prompt.
[18:09] But what you type in is very important because AI is is probabilities in the back end.
[18:16] And each word you type in, it's taking those words, putting them together, and linking it to
[18:22] the most probable answer it has based on the words you put in.
[18:26] So the more descriptive you are, the better answer you're gonna get.
[18:32] You know, in a search engine, you used to type in something and then refine the search each
[18:36] time and get down to where you wanted.
[18:38] AI is similar to that, not exactly the same, but similar where if you type in what it is you
[18:45] want and be as specific as you can, you're gonna get something that's that specific as an
[18:50] answer.
[18:51] And and that's why, you know, what you put in weighs out in what you get out.
[19:03] I think you're on mute.
[19:05] Yes.
[19:05] So it is important to, yes, to know this about prompting.
[19:09] So, how can someone tell whether AI helping them think more clearly or just making them
[19:17] less willing to think for themselves?
[19:19] Yes.
[19:20] Because it is much easier to just use AI until later think of...
[19:24] Instead of you.
[19:26] Right?
[19:26] So how to find that balance that using it, but still not just giving everything to AI?
[19:35] Well, if you...
[19:36] If you're looking something up, like you're trying to to write something or you're trying
[19:40] to build an app or something in AI, if you just hit continue, continue, continue, which is the
[19:47] easy thing to do, you're gonna get something out the back end, but it's gonna be all AI.
[19:53] It's not gonna be your your pieces included in it.
[19:58] If you're doing self help, okay, and you're trying to look for ways to help you improve
[20:07] yourself, the more specific you can because it's a wide open topic.
[20:12] Right?
[20:13] Self help is is libraries full of information.
[20:17] The more specific you can put in there, the more specific result you're gonna get, and you
[20:22] choose the one that resonates with you with what you're looking to do.
[20:25] That's how AI can help you because it can give you the resources that you can use to improve
[20:31] yourself.
[20:32] If you want AI to help you increase your awareness, you know, I don't think that's...
[20:42] I mean, I haven't done it, but I don't think that's gonna give you the best answers because
[20:46] the best answers for opening your awareness, a lot of them are are verbal and they're not
[20:53] written, and therefore AI wouldn't know what they are.
[20:56] So there's a good example where, you know, it can give you information, but it can't it can't
[21:02] access what's not available to it.
[21:07] Yes.
[21:07] Yes.
[21:08] So true.
[21:09] What is one decision a founder could safely use AI to support and one they need to own
[21:16] personally?
[21:17] Two decisions?
[21:19] Well, one decision is if you're looking to make a decision for business and you don't have all
[21:29] the information and you have to go find it, you can put that in AI and ask for the sources to
[21:37] be included so you can get the information.
[21:40] You can check the sources to make sure it's correct, and that's a faster way of getting the
[21:46] information you need to make your business decision.
[21:49] K?
[21:50] And for...
[21:52] The other part of your question was for personal.
[21:54] Was that correct?
[21:56] Mhmm.
[21:56] So for personal, you know, I've covered it a couple times.
[21:59] But if you wanna improve something on yourself, AI only has what's in its database.
[22:06] And because, you know, self improvement is is libraries long, you're gonna get what they
[22:13] have, but it may not be the newest.
[22:15] It may not be the best.
[22:17] Therefore, you need to look there and maybe talk to some people who are in that area.
[22:23] Like, I'm very deep in consciousness.
[22:25] I've been doing it for over twenty years.
[22:29] I can answer some questions that wouldn't be in the database because there's no way for it to
[22:34] get in there.
[22:35] Right?
[22:36] These are some of the soft skills that I talk about that that wouldn't be an AI.
[22:42] They can find other things, but they can't find what I would give somebody.
[22:47] Mhmm.
[22:47] Yes.
[22:48] Yes.
[22:48] Because I might not know everything about this person.
[22:51] Yeah.
[22:52] Right.
[22:53] People who may know them who already experienced Correct.
[22:57] Him for years or maybe living together.
[23:00] Yes.
[23:00] And what questions should they ask themselves before accepting an AI recommendation?
[23:09] See, I don't know what questions they would have.
[23:11] I would think, you know, whatever they're looking for, they're gonna put that in the
[23:16] search box.
[23:18] You know, people who are looking to improve themselves is a library of different choices
[23:25] they have and what they wanna do.
[23:27] So they have to understand what they want instead of think what they want and then, of
[23:33] course, use AI to to find the location of the information, make sure that the source is there
[23:40] and that you can make sure it's accurate and and find it that way.
[23:45] But, you know, no matter what you're looking for, you've gotta be specific on it.
[23:50] And I would ask for sources too if it's important because with AI, you still have to
[23:54] trust and verify.
[23:56] You just can't take the answer to being truthful.
[23:59] Mhmm.
[24:00] Yes.
[24:01] Yes.
[24:01] And let's say a business owner is busy, has a small team, and feels behind on AI.
[24:08] What should they do first this week to find a useful application rather than chase another
[24:15] tool?
[24:17] Well, if they if they have some business challenges, a good way to start is to say,
[24:24] okay.
[24:24] I have this business challenge.
[24:26] How can it help me?
[24:27] Like, of the big...
[24:29] Biggest business challenges of small business is the accounting.
[24:32] Right?
[24:32] They just...
[24:33] They don't like to do it because they like to do the business.
[24:36] And you've got QuickBooks, and you get different ways that that can be done very
[24:41] efficiently for you.
[24:42] And and and you've got AI that can help you with that if you need a spreadsheet or
[24:46] something.
[24:48] But I would say find the biggest challenge.
[24:50] If it's market share and you wanna think about other ways to get your biz...
[24:54] To gain market share in your business, in your area, in your market, that's a good way because
[24:59] AI can can scour what's out there, and it can look at what competitors are doing that you may
[25:06] not see because it can it can scour the, you know, the Internet.
[25:10] And it can give you some ideas on things you can do to increase market share, you know, in
[25:15] light of the competition that you have.
[25:17] So that's...
[25:18] That gives you ideas, and then you start thinking about it and say, hey.
[25:21] I wanna try this.
[25:22] What's the best way to do this so that I can manage my costs and maximize my return?
[25:28] Right?
[25:29] And it can help work through that with you.
[25:32] Yeah.
[25:32] Great.
[25:33] Bruce, walk us through one example.
[25:36] The problem, the small test, and how they would measure whether it actually helped.
[25:46] Well, small test would be ask AI something that you know the answer to and see what it gives
[25:51] you to see if it's accurate or if it's not accurate.
[25:54] Right?
[25:55] And that's a pretty good test.
[25:57] You know?
[25:57] And, of course, you can have a million different questions you can ask and just see
[26:01] what comes out of it.
[26:03] Yeah.
[26:03] Very good.
[26:04] Because this is how you can see how well AI knows you and really matches the answers.
[26:10] Yes.
[26:10] Like, when you really get what you is...
[26:12] You have in mind, as you know, that shows AI already knows you, knows what is important and
[26:18] gives the, like, perspective which is matches with your own.
[26:22] Right.
[26:23] Yeah.
[26:24] Great.
[26:25] What is the most common mistake you see at this first stage when people just start using AI?
[26:32] I think the most common mistake nowadays is that people will take an idea from from AI and
[26:43] try to apply it, but they haven't thought, you know, about the idea enough to actually know
[26:49] the best way to apply it.
[26:51] So you can have the...
[26:52] A phenomenal idea come out of AI, but if you don't apply it properly, it's not gonna work.
[26:58] It's not gonna work as well.
[27:00] So you've gotta have, you know, the AI plus your soft skills and combine the two to fine
[27:05] tune that for your particular instance.
[27:11] Suppose AI produces an answer that sounds convincing but is wrong.
[27:17] What checks should a business have before using its output with customers or for an important
[27:24] decision?
[27:26] Well, I always ask for the for the links when they give me an answer.
[27:32] If it's important, I always ask for the links so that I can check to see if the link is
[27:39] adding to the value or if it's just a Phantom link that was put in there that has nothing to
[27:43] do with it.
[27:44] Because then I know the logic from the AI was a little faulty.
[27:49] So that's the best way to do it is is to, you know, trust and verify if it's important.
[27:55] Yeah.
[27:56] And maybe also to, prompt it in the beginning to give answers only based on facts, yeah, and,
[28:04] like, proven and, look for, sources which are, like, authorized.
[28:11] Well, I would I would re...
[28:13] Replace fact with verifiable sources because facts can be anything that AI thinks they are.
[28:20] But verified sources are only sources that they can verify.
[28:25] Yeah.
[28:25] Yeah.
[28:25] So true.
[28:27] Who needs to be accountable when an AI assisted decision causes a problem?
[28:34] Yeah.
[28:34] The person that relied on the AI for the decision, that's the person that's responsible
[28:39] for that.
[28:40] Because, you know, we're hired for our abilities, and AI can be a partner and help us
[28:47] with those.
[28:48] But if AI makes...
[28:50] Gives you an answer that's not good and you and you post it out without without thinking about
[28:57] it or faulty thinking about it, then you're gonna you're gonna be the one that's
[29:01] responsible for it.
[29:02] AI is just a tool.
[29:05] It's the person that's gonna be responsible.
[29:08] Yes.
[29:08] So truth is like a knife.
[29:10] Yes.
[29:10] It is a tool, and people use knife to cut vegetables and make nice salad, or somebody can
[29:16] use knife for a negative, intention.
[29:20] Yes.
[29:20] So this is how we use this...
[29:22] This.
[29:22] And, of course, it is important to remember that AI is just a tool, it can hallucinate.
[29:28] It can just create something out of its own connections, and it is very important to check
[29:35] all the information before we use it as a final option.
[29:40] Yeah.
[29:40] And and the knife didn't do it.
[29:42] It's a human that did it with a knife.
[29:44] Right?
[29:44] Exactly.
[29:46] Could you give us a simple rule or that a small business can use tomorrow?
[29:53] Yeah.
[29:54] I would say if it's important, trust and verify.
[29:57] If it's important and and you're getting an...
[30:00] You want an answer from AI, get the sources so that you can verify that they're accurate.
[30:07] Because AI still hallucinates, and it will give things that that don't apply, and it can skew
[30:13] the answer.
[30:14] So if it's important, I always say trust and verify.
[30:17] Yeah.
[30:18] Great.
[30:18] Great.
[30:19] Such a great advice.
[30:21] Bruce, your work spans AI and meditation.
[30:25] Has your practice changed the way you use technology or lead people?
[30:33] I think from when I started to today, AI has changed along the way.
[30:41] It's it's grown quite a bit because it was new when I started.
[30:45] And as AI AI has changed, I've modified what I do to stay up with AI.
[30:52] And I think that's important for everybody to do because as new models come out, they have
[30:56] they have more capabilities, and we need to understand the capabilities so that we can use
[31:05] it responsibly.
[31:07] Yeah.
[31:07] So true.
[31:09] For someone who feels constantly pulled towards faster answers, what is one practice that helps
[31:16] them pause and exercise their own judgment?
[31:21] I think for most people to pause is if they get something that doesn't make a lot of sense.
[31:31] Right?
[31:32] If it doesn't make sense to what you're getting, then I would say, you know, look into
[31:36] it because that's your that's your inner sense.
[31:40] And if it's not making sense and you're questioning it, then you need to look deeper.
[31:48] As I become small capable, what human ability do you most want our listeners to strengthen?
[31:59] As AI becomes more capable, what is it?
[32:02] Yes.
[32:03] As AI becomes more capable, what human ability do you most want our listeners to strengthen?
[32:10] Strengthen?
[32:11] I would say intuition or...
[32:20] It's it's not...
[32:21] It...
[32:21] It's discernment.
[32:23] Intuition and discernment.
[32:25] Because you need to understand what sounds good and what doesn't, what feels right and what
[32:32] doesn't feel right, because that's the difference.
[32:34] In a lot of cases, it's the...
[32:36] Where you're gonna see a difference in in execution.
[32:41] Yes.
[32:41] Yeah.
[32:42] Thank you so much, Bruce.
[32:44] So, before we wrap this episode, if there would be one thing that you would like, listeners to
[32:50] take away today, of course, along with so much golden nuggets which we already discussed, but
[32:56] something that you would like them to really take away and implement in their practice with
[33:03] AI, what it would be?
[33:06] Well, I think knowledge is one of the most important things that people can do in this
[33:10] fast moving technology.
[33:13] And on my website, I have research papers that I've written on all the topics of
[33:19] consciousness, AI, and quantum.
[33:23] And if people can go there, they have free papers they can download, they can read, and
[33:28] I'm always writing new papers here.
[33:30] I think that's a really great source, and I link it to a to a website, a news website that
[33:35] I built that has AI and quantum news in the day.
[33:39] So anybody that's not dealing with AI today, this is a good way to start because you start
[33:47] learning about it before you do anything.
[33:50] Right?
[33:51] You start understanding it before you start using it.
[33:56] And I find that once people understand something, then they're much more effective
[34:03] than if they just try to use it without the full understanding.
[34:07] And I think that's a really good way to start.
[34:09] Yeah.
[34:10] So true.
[34:11] Before we use any tool, right, like, every machine, even, like, washing, let's say,
[34:16] dishwasher or washing machine.
[34:18] We we read manual to know exactly what it can do, how to use it, the best way to Right.
[34:26] Achieve results.
[34:27] And the same also implies for AI.
[34:30] Bruce, thank you so much for helping us today think more carefully about what we gain from AI
[34:37] and which decisions we must continue to own.
[34:41] Follow Bruce to explore his work.
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[34:51] All the links how to, follow Bruce are mentioned in the description to this video.
[35:00] And, again, Bruce, thank you so much for being amazing guest, and I'm looking forward to see
[35:05] you again in our future episodes.
[35:08] Thank you, Elena.
[35:09] It was very nice, and I enjoyed it also.
[35:11] Yeah.
[35:12] The same here.

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