# Al Brown - The Recipe Behind Kiwi Chef's Culinary Empire

An episode of [Where's My Money?](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1735900451), 2 Nov 2025, 58 min.

Audio: https://pdst.fm/e/traffic.megaphone.fm/MEDIAWORKSRADIOLIMITED6720970891.mp3?updated=1762719132

This week, Where's My Money host Reagan White sits down with renowned chef and restaurateur Al Brown, to explore his journey from rural roots to culinary icon. Brown reflects on his upbringing, the creation of Logan Brown, Depot, Federal Deli, and Best Ugly Bagels. He emphasises authenticity, informality, and generosity as the heart of his brand. Brown shares insights into building strong teams, staying hands-on, and balancing creativity with commercial success. Powered by enable.me Watch us on Youtube Instagram / Facebook / Tik Tok: @wheresmymoneynz Reagan White Instagram Where's My Money? Linktree

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