# Chlöe Swarbrick on Why It's So Expensive to Be Poor in New Zealand

An episode of [Where's My Money?](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1735900451), 24 May 2026, 1 h 04 min.

Audio: https://pdst.fm/e/traffic.megaphone.fm/MEDIAWORKSRADIOLIMITED5839083219.mp3

The cost of living crisis is keeping families awake at night all across New Zealand. Green Party co-leader Chlöe Swarbrick steps into the studio with me to look at the massive gap between the rich and the poor, the reality of loan sharks targeting vulnerable Kiwis, and why she thinks our current economic model needs a total shakeup. Chlöe shares her personal journey with financial stress and explains why she believes the system is rigged against regular workers. This episode was made possible thanks to our friends at enable.me

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