# 天真不天真 A podcast by 杨天真本真. 杨天真播客 欢迎来到我的播客。 在这里，我会和大家分享那些或“天真”或“不天真”的故事。有时邀请好友，有时探寻人生，与世界碰撞，聊着聊着，聊出真相。 Feed: https://feed.xyzfm.space/mcklbwxjdvfu ## Latest episodes - [vol.57 对谈李荣浩：该放下就放下 该不要就不要](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/d8b61788e976) (2026-10-20, 64 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/6ad63f95285041df1c7358c9/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/lujrbxDhQr5-HRqMYJ746W6uAP5_.m4a - [vol.56 对谈咪仔：人生是认领自己与确立使命的过程](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/df09b1863a1d) (2026-09-29, 76 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/6abaa819e742e36efcbc5fa8/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/lgrBPfUBc8S6y59Jb6tSD6gLZ_c-.m4a - [vol.55 对谈携隐Melody：选一条更慢的路 然后试着走得更远](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/fd87d1244d21) (2026-09-08, 62 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/6a9eba42a0210c197dceff02/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/lvMwWqnWmEW2_S22X_4oTJy2GNlw.m4a - [vol.54 对谈宋佳：我为什么是我？命运的目的地不是掌控一切 而是经历一切](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/44b3aedbbd11) (2026-08-19, 61 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/6a8448e38156bf33621a4c94/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/luES_M_6btM17a5qt6kB1khR5S6i.m4a - [vol.53 对谈易立竞：折腾vs独处 极致对照组的两种活法答案](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/b1657b6622e4) (2026-07-27, 84 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/6a66487e6356eb2d9be8ca46/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/liCr8UeImbR2NSDz9eVqc5EKBnkr.m4a - [vol.52 对谈王安宇：十年可以让一个人发生多少变化](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/97799eac607c) (2026-07-06, 54 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/6a4a7af02e335a35a80e7c18/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/lqP2d0XhSkKpLXcBUmsu6HTdgQpi.m4a - [vol.51 对谈姜思达：面对真相的能力，比风口的保质期更长](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/b82f6a30219e) (2026-06-16, 63 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/6a303f394233e62bc54a72fc/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/lgv3MmCH9GJGadmm9ggDmrlMMRJT.m4a - [vol.50 对谈纪录片导演赵琦：跳脱框架限定 让“不允许”也可以被允许](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/a271982ae77f) (2026-05-26, 68 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/6a147c398b5c94538eb363fd/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/liPjIEsiiER7GKqrMQNt4cOB7Uhl.m4a - [vol.49 对谈西高地Papi妈妈：伤痛不必痊愈，但别让它替你选择](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/86a0777ac73b) (2026-05-13, 59 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/6a0316cf1b7bd50295014d50/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/lsYA1jsjz4Vgda_HheDGeer8tUlu.m4a - [vol.48 对谈刘开心：活着很疼 但生命从不因脆弱而失色](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/6c653e4ba564) (2026-04-21, 58 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/69e624681e94ae6921b909eb/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/lklwA9eI23C1ZUWPlqvRSwEtRlx6.m4a - [vol.47 有问必答｜真正的蓄能，是看清自己的起心动念](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/c6dfde5a0f42) (2026-03-31, 59 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/69ca92eee2c8be3155eed2b5/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/lulgt91O3kZmJrJh0T6UW9bYmpQ7.m4a - [vol.46 开年职场助力 关于汇报涨薪和规划](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/0a38c59876d2) (2026-03-17, 49 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/69b7f9f9caaea1fb3b960dfc/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/ll_SNQRfffcnyKz-8uNExbyD66cm.m4a - [vol.45 对谈马思纯：当外界定义失效，我们如何定义自己](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/2ff8e24ae76c) (2026-03-05, 62 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/69a8067cfccfedb2910aa201/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/livFEsFeHgKz9ULM-MWM6xqu4rA3.m4a - [vol.44 对谈刘震云：单线思考 正在伤害我们理解世界的能力](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/8dda040479ab) (2026-02-03, 62 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/69807d712fc7f49d09611d00/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/lhiHEqv37wpXjlUJvY39mQro-luO.m4a - [vol.43 有问必答系列 摆脱内耗 才是成年人最奢侈的自由](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/08d6a3238e47) (2026-01-13, 59 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/6964dc3cc2a4d16ea785f7f8/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/lm5zJrHUGMAEPVasT-bmHAWwvyYp.m4a - [vol.42 对谈严伯钧：两个跨界玩家 用“体验值”代替“KPI”来做人生结算](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/9fd487058047) (2025-12-23, 73 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/694965b30f2ae6a867952f87/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/lrCSfWK4PHj-G1_V1nBvWc0p2_16.m4a - [vol.41 对谈郑思维：从“被他人看见”的竞技荣耀 走向“看见自己”的人生赛场](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/b647418f3ea9) (2025-12-02, 64 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/692dc24c0d5237d4de704ed5/media.xyzcdn.net/nsDZbuyPOy2L66rn41TcMaJR2WUm.mp3 - [vol.40 对谈兰珍珍：欧莱雅公关总裁的顶级职场思维 以冒险开局以真诚持之](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/1f662a0acd9f) (2025-11-18, 64 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/691bb721cbba038b4207d0a0/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/ltnca3xMRWNJBfxYT3TDn4gBlPto.m4a - [200万订阅特别加更：200个思维瞬间 为过往声音标上注脚](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/2f7c3045808e) (2025-11-04, 64 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/6908b55f0ceab2a71c477150/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/lsxRfLXZXIdaz_ESXaTKUZxVKk-3.m4a - [vol.39 有问必答系列 从小事建立情绪免疫系统](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/bd658b9a2c5c) (2025-10-28, 52 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/68ff4ae2083a71a4eb785c4f/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/liUy21YxK19xLp6aUgJPkPIXBBbJ.m4a - [vol.38 对谈Olga姐姐：想红的你怎样才能红?](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/3e30afdd3f58) (2025-10-14, 62 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/68ed2b9d525f51df3829b093/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/lqlQfQZCg7x7ObFF3E4fIWdhi0fc.m4a - [vol.37 “我只是做自己 却冒犯到了一些人”该怎么办](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/fe0838e498ef) (2025-09-30, 68 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/68da1988b4befcf73070387b/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/lsXTbcbbQIopc2WKiwJ3s5ri7VYm.m4a - [vol.36 对谈嘻哈王越：表达是一封“欢迎你来到我的世界”的邀请函](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/8482d36bed28) (2025-09-16, 44 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/68c820ff2c82c9dcca833f19/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/lvUb31_hAH-9lrwrfkb0DND0A1Sn.m4a - [vol.35 对谈恩利：当人生不过如此 我们还能怎样创造意义？](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/f43859c85029) (2025-09-09, 67 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/68bf2feed644af942320cd4b/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/lhRfsOe6NRZ0UFN4sa8b4Zktp7v2.m4a - [vol.34 对谈《比山更高》作者宋明蔚：高海拔攀登背后的生死人生](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/57488b664d82) (2025-08-26, 73 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/68ac5902293471fed464ee4a/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/ltQDA20w3UBwLiZf5RELvWD2Ry-P.m4a - [vol.33 如何区分爱自己和自私？在成长中找到内在的秩序](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/0dfb158cc8d7) (2025-08-12, 68 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/6899ced820a2906a4dff1856/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/lnxOGQodYycgLLwFllTjRH7yzwHM.m4a - [vol.32 对谈李松蔚：情绪自救指南 从心理学视角解读自己](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/ed57fdd9540d) (2025-07-29, 79 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/688749058e06fe8de71814b3/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/ltH1OBvaq-3_SOLCYD55pVERvkHT.m4a - [vol.31 对谈小红与房主任：一个50岁脱口秀演员 在女性托举中自我重生](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/410d4ee1b11d) (2025-07-12, 71 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/6871366f60f8f77d400ed762/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/lg3WDZkyAaLvd00bJshz-ZOLQgDl.m4a - [vol.30 对谈邵亦波：一个学霸的“学会爱自己”之路](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/6657deb78725) (2025-06-24, 77 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/685986762a38b4d97928da10/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/lteDJfOMTW-x5UmwQHS6dzM2tvZ_.m4a - [150万订阅特别加更：给自己十五个问题 了解自己的价值排序](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/23d7cadbd531) (2025-06-20, 33 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/6854e9662a38b4d9799a64d0/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/lks0DXS3aFplY1FzvK2ixhka1GKz.m4a - [vol.28 看清真问题，找到真答案才能破除焦虑](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/f1e621376724) (2025-05-27, 70 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/6834704f31215eb506d4dd13/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/lhhulHLJ2Iz5XEwOATbRvBJ2WQiu.m4a - [vol.27 与李诞闲谈 来吧 让我们一起嘲笑成功学](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/5a711ebf351d) (2025-05-13, 47 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/6821ff8424f85593463bf552/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/lpNCE48z54Nbdf_eGwDkRcqdW_Dd.m4a - [vol.26 我的新进化：在运动中找回生命主体性](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/0b16283795e4) (2025-04-29, 69 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/680f302a7a449ae858295bea/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/ljHnTcXvCcvc1D-vvTyKzAj6WK0y.m4a - [vol.25 对谈脱不花：强势女性在社会系统中的定位与成长](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/618be0c15f2f) (2025-04-08, 77 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/67f3abd2f9578163d68c84c9/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/ltO8TkFq02t9AqhP_8MUrzXP-S--.m4a - [vol.24 对谈张艺兴：在多元身份中尝试 完成自我对话与成长](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/7770c6f47fb7) (2025-03-25, 49 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/67e18214dd11f9c8c1d74916/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/loO4Lhl8SXtt6SqzB1Nq4ZYOc7vX.m4a - [vol.23 对谈王大宏：与身体对话 探讨专家视角下的人体营养说明书](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/73fb376f574a) (2025-03-04, 71 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/67c5c15ebf52a16cd1477102/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/lrrJByf4_5FMjURC_I3TjKfzJdNd.m4a - [vol.22 打破完美假象 创造属于自己的配得感](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/483729c32ae3) (2025-02-25, 50 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/67bc79af606e5c59408dac09/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/lkkpS8n_iBOfBXy-Bwzh_fMzDvWV.m4a - [vol.21 对谈王嘉尔：为什么不再使用经纪人？发现人性真相的真成长](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/8395aceb97af) (2025-02-18, 59 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/67b3377905a90dfd0d11b086/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/luypbeqAJoOxin9FOSSFjgcDMWxP.m4a - [vol.20 揭秘我的时间管理法则 一生活成几辈子](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/9b0f0d28105f) (2025-02-11, 50 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/67a9b16c247d51713cbfc9c1/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/lkYPoLNTOOEPQo6aLij9_S8bqQSn.m4a - [vol.19 对谈金惟纯 人生来是否本自具足？告别是一场新的相遇](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/7dbde7f59b92) (2025-01-28, 77 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/6797b5d0d74435e4a31edc9e/media.xyzcdn.net/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/lsVMjAVdcMKhmGkvsIl2hSUhHZHX.m4a - [vol.18 爱与欲望冲突吗 四十果然不惑](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/8ef37bd10c5b) (2025-01-07, 59 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/677bf6becda04ef4c1d33ea3/media.xyzcdn.net/lh45eT0LopYkAtjpALn-1tDirtDg.m4a - [vol.17 谁说这些话我们就该信啦？通过反驳 建立独立思考](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/e4a9a5c6aa94) (2024-12-17, 49 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/676020957d8426f6928f0ae6/media.xyzcdn.net/lv9TbJADESR-DQGuxiPDvZB5inu8.m4a - [vol.16 对谈黄执中：怎么成为一个会说话的人？](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/e378bfbe0423) (2024-11-26, 68 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/674452a58d1233fb0de7915e/media.xyzcdn.net/lkvic8pxsSR9PtEt4_0k7bIsdq3Q.m4a - [vol.15 你认识真实的自己吗？个人成长系列书籍推荐](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/6d95ff5654c9) (2024-11-12, 48 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/6731b3c8f373fe5d4d5ac5bf/media.xyzcdn.net/liZSbtGt0y07hHinVwrmGNi7hhzq.m4a - [vol.14和杜华对谈 解锁女性内驱力 正视自己的野心](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/441504511e94) (2024-10-29, 60 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/671f8148db74c60aa4d3bcc5/media.xyzcdn.net/lg97R7ua8125qGBE-9T98h2PIVS-.m4a - [vol.13 直面Bug 用强者思维破局成长](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/2dcf9e882c4f) (2024-10-08, 48 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/66faa6e981cdab3a932dec08/media.xyzcdn.net/luo0tfS0KZqmay7Lyb9VEB4c46EU.m4a - [vol.12和宋佳对谈 幸福是一种能力 大女主是“我们”的选择](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/5d8223a6943d) (2024-09-15, 54 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/66e5a3a73a5ff0a0ca8194fa/media.xyzcdn.net/lgr8LJQ87IpzEQcI16EEhw-HYS_-.m4a - [vol.11对谈VOGUE新主编Rocco 爱折腾的人一路向前](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/bb976e0202c6) (2024-09-03, 74 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/66d59d834a0f950f84f6edaf/media.xyzcdn.net/lhiTD56QnyhoJpP3kVjqzoiyVNjx.m4a - [vol.10 去遇见天地，去遇见众生，去遇见自己](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/effaa072a06a) (2024-08-13, 44 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/66b9b1d533591c27be740ef5/media.xyzcdn.net/lsn6AhiNcZpWmwaUWlLO0y9y5_qi.m4a - [vol.09 如何在爱中成长，成为强者？与春夏的对谈](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1731784296/5ebf10767766) (2024-07-23, 64 min): audio https://dts-api.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/track/65cef9e3cace72dff8d98de3/669e006b8fcadceb9007c9e2/media.xyzcdn.net/ljzMF2ga8ee5P-AICqiWtJCW40vw.m4a Shows are listed from Apple Podcasts' charts and directory, and Podcast Index where it is used. 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