# #67 | Dylan Walker

An episode of [Backstage with Cooper & Matty Johns](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1729949087), 12 Oct 2025, 54 min.

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Dylan Walker joins Cooper & Matty for a raw, funny chat about losing his premiership ring, life at Parra, Bozo, Russell Crowe, and NRL culture. From Souths to Manly to the Wahs! and now the Eels. Subscribe, Watch, and Follow Catch the full episode on YouTube and stay updated by following us on social media: Linktree: Backstage with Cooper & Matty Contact Us For any enquiries, email us at: contact@johnsmedia.com.au 0:00-Welcome 3:00-DCE’s Wedding 4:20-Losing Premiership Ring 7:00-Fletcher Christian 8:20-Parramatta Eels 10:00-The Wahs! 19:00-Parramatta Eels 24:00-Road to 300 25:00-Teammates 26:30-Jason Ryles 29:00-South Sydney 32:00-Work Placement 38:30-Api Kososau 41:00-Bozo 43:00-Russell Crowe 46:00-Manly 48:00-NRL Culture 49:45-All-Star Team See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: Silver surface.
[0:01] Speaker 2: Look at this Cooper, He's just spoon straight in there.
[0:08] Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back, man. Now, I'm pretty sure in our
[0:12] Speaker 3: old place, just around the corner, you come with a
[0:14] Speaker 3: few of the Souse boys once or twice.
[0:15] Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So when I think said the address, I
[0:20] Speaker 1: realized you've gone a few streets over towards the beach.
[0:23] Speaker 3: We become that assholes around the corner.
[0:26] Speaker 4: That that Fox contract. Bro, he's got that. He's got
[0:29] Speaker 4: the upgrade now, so he moves closer to the water.
[0:31] Speaker 4: He will literally be in the ocean soon, like the
[0:34] Speaker 4: Lost City of Atlanta.
[0:35] Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, I'm not a breath and aster money,
[0:39] Speaker 3: but mate, I'm hohold my own for the good guys.
[0:42] Speaker 2: Yeah, what's up?
[0:43] Speaker 4: So what was that for South Sydney Back in the
[0:45] Speaker 4: Day's house.
[0:46] Speaker 1: I think it was a magic that he got all
[0:48] Speaker 1: the halves together. Yeah, we all drove over.
[0:51] Speaker 3: You and you and Luke Carey were the young guys.
[0:53] Speaker 3: First two sessions. Yeah, it was first two sessions. I
[0:57] Speaker 3: was calling Luke. John finally had the gas to say, Mate,
[1:00] Speaker 3: that's actually Luke. It's funny like yourself. Dela was saying
[1:04] Speaker 3: to Cooper when you first came over my first like
[1:09] Speaker 3: a view of you, how you played. You're like really quick, speed, footwork, power,
[1:15] Speaker 3: and you've still got that. But made. The great thing
[1:18] Speaker 3: these days makes your past selection is outstanding. Made, I reckon,
[1:22] Speaker 3: and we'll talk about paramount a second. I reckon made this.
[1:24] Speaker 3: So I've never seen you play better than you at
[1:26] Speaker 3: the moment. Cheers Mane.
[1:27] Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I think when you're young, when I
[1:29] Speaker 1: was coming through, because I played five eight or during
[1:33] Speaker 1: my junior years, and when you can first come to grade,
[1:37] Speaker 1: you don't really understand how the game works. It's a
[1:40] Speaker 1: different game. And I think when I first come through,
[1:43] Speaker 1: I was just that young athletic dude, not too much
[1:46] Speaker 1: of the knowledge where you're thinking that you know, and
[1:48] Speaker 1: then you know they just going over to you years
[1:51] Speaker 1: you sort of just pick everything up from different players coaches.
[1:55] Speaker 4: I was going to say, you've nearly played every position,
[1:58] Speaker 4: I reckon.
[1:58] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think the Warriors boys had a bit
[2:01] Speaker 1: of a running joke over there. I think I started
[2:04] Speaker 1: in the back round last year against and end up
[2:06] Speaker 1: getting spained. But that was the first I think that
[2:09] Speaker 1: was the last position position I had to take off
[2:12] Speaker 1: the list.
[2:13] Speaker 2: So you have you actually played every position?
[2:15] Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, yeah, played full were are mainly when
[2:20] Speaker 1: Too went down in twenty twenty one and we started horrendous.
[2:24] Speaker 3: I think we had.
[2:25] Speaker 1: Forty put it on us by the roosters and was
[2:27] Speaker 1: consecutive weeks. And then when Tourbo was coming back, I
[2:30] Speaker 1: was supposed to shift back to the centers. And then
[2:33] Speaker 1: as journal asked me saying, oh has he gonna come as, oh, well,
[2:36] Speaker 1: he's not going to be an eighty point ten round player.
[2:38] Speaker 1: And then next week the boys won by thirty four. Yeah,
[2:44] Speaker 1: he's not back and it's winter. Yeah, it was a
[2:49] Speaker 1: bit of a laugh and joke.
[2:50] Speaker 4: You warned it up for him, though you warned that.
[2:54] Speaker 3: I sort of warmed it up. We'll talk about a
[2:56] Speaker 3: little bit later on his house man. You play good
[2:59] Speaker 3: players still, yeah, yeah, awesome, some of the best players
[3:02] Speaker 3: in the modern era. Quite incredible every position. God, that's unbelievable.
[3:08] Speaker 1: Utility plus Yeah, not very good in something, but had
[3:12] Speaker 1: a crack mate.
[3:13] Speaker 3: Now, Dylan, were you were your chess's wedding wedding Because
[3:19] Speaker 3: we keep honestly, it's not a week goes past and
[3:22] Speaker 3: I continue to get reports about my about dear son
[3:26] Speaker 3: he's empt duties. Were you in the firing line of all? No, no, no,
[3:29] Speaker 3: he left me alone.
[3:30] Speaker 2: I left left me me and walked some mutual respect.
[3:34] Speaker 3: But I was at the back of the table so you.
[3:35] Speaker 1: Couldn't see me. So put me in the bleachers.
[3:39] Speaker 3: That's where you know you stand in a relationship.
[3:41] Speaker 2: With the mate, where you are in the wedding.
[3:42] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but that that was a good job you did.
[3:45] Speaker 2: Bro, Thanks Dan. That was good.
[3:47] Speaker 4: It was not much not much backlash from it.
[3:51] Speaker 2: A little bit, a little bit of backlash.
[3:53] Speaker 3: I would say, You've got a little bit in the
[3:55] Speaker 3: gossip column, someone saying when they're talking about d C's
[3:58] Speaker 3: relationship with Sieves, they keep bringing it up he wasn't
[4:01] Speaker 3: invited to the wedding.
[4:02] Speaker 4: Part of the jo I kept referencing that, like when
[4:05] Speaker 4: the whole contract stuff was going on with chairs this year.
[4:08] Speaker 2: They just kept referencing it, like, you know.
[4:09] Speaker 4: It was like I was watching three sixty one time
[4:12] Speaker 4: when Bazz was going, you know, and obviously seems wasn't
[4:14] Speaker 4: at the wedding, and I was like, oh, I keep
[4:18] Speaker 4: I kept getting dragged into this year.
[4:23] Speaker 2: Look I was reading as well.
[4:24] Speaker 4: Earlier Tailor May lost his twenty twenty one premiership ring.
[4:31] Speaker 2: And it got me thinking, Walks.
[4:33] Speaker 4: I thought, who would be you know, silly enough to
[4:36] Speaker 4: lose their premiership ring? But of course you lost your
[4:40] Speaker 4: as well off.
[4:41] Speaker 2: The back of the boat. Yeah, the back of the boat.
[4:43] Speaker 2: It was.
[4:43] Speaker 3: It was a funny one that one. I remember. We
[4:46] Speaker 3: know this was happening. I was.
[4:47] Speaker 1: I told everyone was a chicken wing because I was.
[4:50] Speaker 1: I was young at the time.
[4:51] Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I was having a chicken.
[4:53] Speaker 1: Wing, but look old enough now I'm snakes.
[4:56] Speaker 3: I was having a Darry.
[4:58] Speaker 1: I was having a d and then I was with
[5:01] Speaker 1: one of my best mates, Aaron Gray, and I went
[5:03] Speaker 1: back to the bay.
[5:03] Speaker 3: We're just sort of looking at how good this?
[5:06] Speaker 1: And then I said, watch how fucking flict this this
[5:09] Speaker 1: Darry and went boll and flicked it and the rings
[5:10] Speaker 1: just slip off. I broke down. It was the worst moment.
[5:16] Speaker 1: It was so high the rollercoaster of rugby league was
[5:18] Speaker 1: like he and it just dipped straight down.
[5:20] Speaker 2: That's bad Monday for you, ruined, but it was it
[5:24] Speaker 2: was worse.
[5:25] Speaker 1: We went to I think the Golden Chief and the
[5:27] Speaker 1: Roosters boys had their awards night and I remember seeing
[5:30] Speaker 1: PC we had a little argieba with PC in the
[5:34] Speaker 1: prelium and then he goes, oh, what happened to your ring?
[5:37] Speaker 1: Because it broke and it sort of breaked down, But
[5:39] Speaker 1: then we were budded on and it just had a
[5:40] Speaker 1: good time, good life.
[5:41] Speaker 3: Same thing happened to me week after the Grand Final.
[5:44] Speaker 3: I'm driving along in the car and I'll go right
[5:46] Speaker 3: and you know, I look, I don't condone littering people
[5:53] Speaker 3: into a into a tissue, wound down the window, threw
[5:57] Speaker 3: it out and my Grand Final ring went with it,
[5:59] Speaker 3: just added bouncing down the road. Luckily we reversed up
[6:03] Speaker 3: and found it after about an hour like that sinking
[6:05] Speaker 3: feeling did.
[6:06] Speaker 1: Ever, they never resurfaced. But there's another one that popped
[6:12] Speaker 1: up somewhere in some drug dens they raided.
[6:17] Speaker 3: It was one of those guys who were tattoos. Big
[6:21] Speaker 3: guys were bids that ride motorbikes in groups. What do
[6:24] Speaker 3: you call them?
[6:25] Speaker 4: BMX They're like a scooter game electric by gang.
[6:29] Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember the reading that as well.
[6:31] Speaker 4: That was very's not sure who else lost their ring
[6:34] Speaker 4: as well.
[6:35] Speaker 3: They brought him a few.
[6:36] Speaker 1: Of us in question and they had to know where
[6:38] Speaker 1: my ring actually went and yeah, so I was like.
[6:42] Speaker 3: Well, I gave it to my brothers, my life before
[6:49] Speaker 3: we just shift onto football. I have to ask you this.
[6:51] Speaker 3: I always want to ask you this question because you
[6:53] Speaker 3: pick Ken Island. Ye, you were descended and Fletcher Christian.
[6:56] Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I think he's like the or fourth grade.
[7:01] Speaker 3: That is unbelievable.
[7:03] Speaker 1: It's pretty crazy. I think when because I grew up
[7:07] Speaker 1: with my mum she told stories. But yeah, I didn't
[7:11] Speaker 1: realize until I was a little bit older that knowing
[7:13] Speaker 1: that becomes a rich history top of islands.
[7:16] Speaker 3: So it's amazing. You boys seen the mutnany on the Bounty.
[7:21] Speaker 3: So Fletcher Christian is played by mel Gibson. It's a
[7:24] Speaker 3: historical thing in the late eighteenth century and what they did,
[7:27] Speaker 3: Captain William Bly he set up, you know, to basically
[7:30] Speaker 3: travel the world around the Pacific and everything and made
[7:33] Speaker 3: it was pretty treacherous on there. There was guys who
[7:35] Speaker 3: had scurvy and everything. And suddenly they arrive in around
[7:39] Speaker 3: Tahooa and the Sandwich Islands and pitt Can Island and
[7:42] Speaker 3: they get off and his paradise. There's beautiful women, food
[7:45] Speaker 3: and everything, and then Captain blog goes right out. We've
[7:48] Speaker 3: had our three months here, let's go back on the boat.
[7:51] Speaker 3: And they just went, no, we're not going, We're not leaving,
[7:53] Speaker 3: and they and they stayed. It was like there the mutiny.
[7:55] Speaker 3: So there's a movie. So and the hero of the
[7:58] Speaker 3: movie played by Milks and as Fletcher Christian and his
[8:01] Speaker 3: descent and dlens are descended on. Yeah.
[8:05] Speaker 4: Have you ever spoke to reach out to Mel Gibson?
[8:07] Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean him actually quite tight.
[8:10] Speaker 3: You wanted me to start in some movie soon, political news.
[8:14] Speaker 4: He listens to the potty, so yeah, we'll get him on.
[8:17] Speaker 3: He loves Yeah. How did the move come about?
[8:23] Speaker 1: Well, I was going to re sign with the Warriors
[8:26] Speaker 1: for one more year, and I just had a deep
[8:28] Speaker 1: feeling in myself because my kids have moved back here
[8:31] Speaker 1: and I was just there by myself. And then after
[8:35] Speaker 1: one of the games, it just felt like a sense
[8:37] Speaker 1: of no one, It's time to get back and be.
[8:40] Speaker 3: Around the kids.
[8:41] Speaker 1: They just started football just for Beacon Hill Bears. So yeah,
[8:46] Speaker 1: so the local team and me and me and I
[8:48] Speaker 1: just thought I had to get back and just set
[8:50] Speaker 1: my life back up over here and just ground it
[8:52] Speaker 1: again and then just be around them because there's mid year, right, Yeah,
[8:56] Speaker 1: I think it was in April. Yeah, yeah, it was
[8:59] Speaker 1: like three weeks in with the Warriors when in the
[9:01] Speaker 1: Vegas come back, played against the Roosters, and then yeah,
[9:06] Speaker 1: the deal was done with deals.
[9:07] Speaker 2: How is it received by the Warriors because you're a
[9:09] Speaker 2: big part of their squad.
[9:11] Speaker 4: Yeah, they just lost a lot of players there before.
[9:13] Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was.
[9:14] Speaker 1: It was a bit of a shock, but all the
[9:15] Speaker 1: boys knew the situation where I was just over there
[9:18] Speaker 1: by myself the year before, and they sort of all
[9:22] Speaker 1: understood like the big the big dogs there with Mitch
[9:25] Speaker 1: Barnett real close with and a lot of other guys left.
[9:28] Speaker 1: So you sort of seen all the young talent coming
[9:32] Speaker 1: through with Demitrick by among Yeah, like just unbelievable talent,
[9:39] Speaker 1: and I just thought it's it's the right time for
[9:41] Speaker 1: me to go. And I wasn't holding them back, but
[9:44] Speaker 1: it just would have given them more of an opportunity
[9:47] Speaker 1: to get more minutes.
[9:48] Speaker 4: Have you seen like did you play with her in
[9:51] Speaker 4: that Yeah?
[9:52] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I played a few games with because he
[9:55] Speaker 1: played I think he played this year. One game I
[9:58] Speaker 1: know definitely I played with in the Rooster's game, And
[10:01] Speaker 1: you can just see it from afar how special he was.
[10:03] Speaker 1: He's just an athletic things. He's fresh, he's a fresh kid,
[10:09] Speaker 1: but he's just he's fully wearness. The footy smarts, the
[10:12] Speaker 1: footy brain like he just got it a little bit.
[10:15] Speaker 1: Him and demetric, and just the way they moved in
[10:17] Speaker 1: defense and how they read the plays defensively, you can
[10:20] Speaker 1: just tell that the attack and they were just going
[10:23] Speaker 1: to become regular. First.
[10:24] Speaker 4: It seems like it's always been hard for the Warriors
[10:26] Speaker 4: to like bring through their own junior talent because they
[10:28] Speaker 4: lose so much to Rugby Union. And now it seems
[10:32] Speaker 4: like now a lot of them, a lot of young
[10:33] Speaker 4: guys want to play for the Warriors.
[10:35] Speaker 1: Well they've done a mad job over there, Warriors where
[10:38] Speaker 1: Union is the big pinnacle over there, and everyone wants
[10:40] Speaker 1: to play for the All Blacks. But the way how
[10:43] Speaker 1: we went in twenty twenty one, you could just see
[10:45] Speaker 1: the big shift and yeah, and you when you're getting
[10:48] Speaker 1: around there, people were just going like they leave you alone.
[10:52] Speaker 3: Jabot, good game. It's just that. But just the way
[10:56] Speaker 3: how they.
[10:57] Speaker 1: Market the franchise and how they get around and make
[11:01] Speaker 1: people come to the games was unbelievable.
[11:04] Speaker 3: You see, Yeah, they used the early years coops up
[11:07] Speaker 3: until the All Blacks and New Zealand Ruby Union really
[11:10] Speaker 3: changed their system to try to count of the Warriors
[11:13] Speaker 3: because you had guys. When the under twenties, when Holden
[11:15] Speaker 3: Cup was being televised live, all some of the All
[11:19] Speaker 3: Blacks best juniors were being onder all the Warriors to
[11:21] Speaker 3: go in there and and the All Blacks changed the
[11:23] Speaker 3: policy which kept a lot of the good kids away.
[11:25] Speaker 3: But the emergence of the Wars like hell to see it.
[11:28] Speaker 3: From the moment you sawing, it's like you got that
[11:31] Speaker 3: big center of balance and that triscooed against the Knights
[11:34] Speaker 3: that completely break the spirit of the Knights players. That
[11:36] Speaker 3: was incredible.
[11:37] Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I remember his first his first game,
[11:40] Speaker 1: he played the Bulldogs and he breake through. He almost
[11:42] Speaker 1: s goed the man, it's good for us against the
[11:44] Speaker 1: Bulldogs last year and just seeing him from there, this
[11:47] Speaker 1: kid's going to be special.
[11:48] Speaker 3: I know that.
[11:49] Speaker 1: In the junior ranks one I think the se Ball
[11:51] Speaker 1: Player of the year a year younger and just he
[11:54] Speaker 1: was just a boy playing football then and then he
[11:58] Speaker 1: played Cup and then he made men look silly.
[12:01] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[12:02] Speaker 1: He scored two tries in one of his first games
[12:04] Speaker 1: and just ran over.
[12:05] Speaker 3: A bit, Dylan, the emergence of the wist phenomenon, you know,
[12:09] Speaker 3: because you often see an organization catch fire when they
[12:13] Speaker 3: win a Grand Final some of that. But you know
[12:15] Speaker 3: post COVID what what I mean, what happened suddenly for
[12:20] Speaker 3: the team just to just explode and the fan base
[12:22] Speaker 3: and everything.
[12:23] Speaker 1: Yeah, I think when Wherebe come over from the Panthers,
[12:27] Speaker 1: he brought that system with him, and I think we
[12:30] Speaker 1: would all know that the systems high completions, possessions a
[12:34] Speaker 1: big thing over there, and where you leave teams in
[12:37] Speaker 1: the corner inside their twenty, if you can land the
[12:40] Speaker 1: kick in there and just get out there and have
[12:42] Speaker 1: your discipline right. He's sort of really done the game
[12:45] Speaker 1: down for a lot of us and made it a
[12:48] Speaker 1: lot easier and cleary game to be, Like, Okay, we're big,
[12:51] Speaker 1: powerful boys with all the young guys coming through. If
[12:54] Speaker 1: we can just roll, find momentum and play the cues,
[12:57] Speaker 1: then shown he can put it in the corner kick
[13:00] Speaker 1: and then you get them. Making two or three tackles
[13:02] Speaker 1: from marker sort of saves a lot of juice. Yeah,
[13:06] Speaker 1: do less, But if you're in the middle like me,
[13:08] Speaker 1: now I'm like I'm doing more than want to be
[13:10] Speaker 1: back out. But yeah, he just sort of done the
[13:14] Speaker 1: game down for the whole, for the whole organization and
[13:17] Speaker 1: I most boys from the post COVID day, it was
[13:21] Speaker 1: just a good sense of feeling being back home.
[13:24] Speaker 3: Do you think it was like the fact that that
[13:26] Speaker 3: the that the team was the sporer went across and
[13:30] Speaker 3: living in Australia for so long and coming back it
[13:32] Speaker 3: was almost like a welcming but you don't realize what
[13:35] Speaker 3: you've got intil it's not there.
[13:36] Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just a blank canvas, let's start fresh,
[13:40] Speaker 1: new coach, lots of new people coming in and everyone
[13:44] Speaker 1: sort of just felt like, okay, this is where we
[13:47] Speaker 1: can rewrite the story. So where we made that very
[13:51] Speaker 1: clear and everyone wanted to start fresh and just earn everything.
[13:54] Speaker 1: And it started in that preseason where everyone was ripping in.
[13:57] Speaker 1: Shawnee had one of his best preseasons from what the
[14:00] Speaker 1: boys are telling us, and then he almost comes out
[14:02] Speaker 1: wins dam.
[14:03] Speaker 3: Yeah. The culture of the New Zealand side the Warrior
[14:05] Speaker 3: is how different is it to the Australian clubs? Is
[14:08] Speaker 3: there a difference you find? Yeah, I find it's a
[14:12] Speaker 3: funny one. A lot of people ask me about all
[14:13] Speaker 3: the younger guys.
[14:14] Speaker 1: They're very respectful in a way. It's not saying that
[14:17] Speaker 1: they're not respectful here, but there's more of an ego
[14:19] Speaker 1: with the younger kids over here. Yeah, and you get
[14:23] Speaker 1: you get across and you can tell it, you know what.
[14:26] Speaker 1: I looking back at it now. When you're a young
[14:29] Speaker 1: kid in Australia you only know Rugua League in the NRL.
[14:33] Speaker 1: You can become a star playing through the under twenties,
[14:35] Speaker 1: just like when Benny Barber. Like everyone I knew Benny
[14:38] Speaker 1: Baba when he was playing under twenties with blonde streaks.
[14:40] Speaker 1: And I think over there because it's so dominated by
[14:43] Speaker 1: the Union, but the kids over there, how they're raised
[14:46] Speaker 1: and the culture in itself, it's very respectful.
[14:49] Speaker 3: It's not you know, you're the young one, stay quiet.
[14:53] Speaker 1: It's very much like will follow until it's right, and
[14:57] Speaker 1: you've just got to get the right people in the
[14:59] Speaker 1: right places, making the right decisions and showing you know,
[15:02] Speaker 1: how to be men in a game.
[15:05] Speaker 4: Because by nature, like a lot of the Polynesian cultures,
[15:08] Speaker 4: they're very quiet and like particularly like team meetings and stuff,
[15:12] Speaker 4: they won't really speak up because of those older boys
[15:15] Speaker 4: in the room who they feel like, out of respect,
[15:18] Speaker 4: they should be the ones talking.
[15:19] Speaker 2: Is I like that the worries?
[15:21] Speaker 1: Nah, Well it was very because you know Harris, like
[15:24] Speaker 1: he's one of the most reserved dudes I've met, but
[15:28] Speaker 1: he's got this character about him where he allows other
[15:31] Speaker 1: people to speak up, He leans on other people to
[15:34] Speaker 1: come in and speak about in the group and having
[15:37] Speaker 1: that culture, and I think when you've got guys like that,
[15:40] Speaker 1: you've sort of got to know how to play or
[15:42] Speaker 1: how to speak to get them to come out of
[15:44] Speaker 1: their comfort zone. And having leaders like that where they're
[15:47] Speaker 1: not direct, harsh or anything like that, at showing culture
[15:50] Speaker 1: where you can be a little bit more reserved but
[15:53] Speaker 1: allow them to come through and feel that leadership. Well, yeah,
[15:58] Speaker 1: he was a real big, you know, pinnacle, like what's
[16:02] Speaker 1: called a pillar. And the success for the.
[16:04] Speaker 3: Warriors such an important thing, isn't it, Like, you know,
[16:07] Speaker 3: for young guys to feel comfortable in a room, to
[16:10] Speaker 3: be able to have their say respectfully of course, but
[16:14] Speaker 3: you know, as opposed to some coaches basically hit up
[16:17] Speaker 3: there the election and just say basically stand away, say
[16:20] Speaker 3: what you know, shut your mouths.
[16:22] Speaker 2: Is the training tough over there.
[16:23] Speaker 1: Yeah, Ballan Couples.
[16:25] Speaker 3: I don't know if you do. You know anyone know
[16:27] Speaker 3: Batan Couples.
[16:28] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, he could follow real good dude. Yeah,
[16:33] Speaker 1: training is tough.
[16:33] Speaker 3: It's always tough, tough everywhere. It's tough everywhere wherever you go.
[16:36] Speaker 1: But it was the thing about wherever it was, we
[16:41] Speaker 1: did a lot of running. But once that December kicked up,
[16:44] Speaker 1: when we come after Christmas, it was just awfootball and
[16:47] Speaker 1: that was his regime of wanting to get the best
[16:50] Speaker 1: out of the team. It's just we just used to
[16:52] Speaker 1: do Heber arm wrestles, you know, arm wrestles. And that's
[16:55] Speaker 1: fine because you can come to the train and go like,
[16:57] Speaker 1: I'm not doing one, this's running. I'm actually doing something
[16:59] Speaker 1: that's going to go help me go into the game.
[17:01] Speaker 3: So applicably, had lots of fun, applicable information you're working on.
[17:05] Speaker 3: Marino does the same with soccer. They reckon when when
[17:07] Speaker 3: they went when he first went to Chelsea, they turned
[17:09] Speaker 3: up and the players had their running shoes. He said,
[17:11] Speaker 3: you won't need those, just bring your boots. Yeah. Yeah.
[17:13] Speaker 3: Just playing five on five games skill based, as you said,
[17:17] Speaker 3: makes it fun. Yeah, as opposed to just putting the
[17:19] Speaker 3: blinkers on a run four hundred meters.
[17:21] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. When you're doing that, it's.
[17:24] Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what, you know what, it's rank and
[17:28] Speaker 4: you know what's funny, like the amount of boys and
[17:31] Speaker 4: this is this happens from like under sixteens Harrold Matthews
[17:34] Speaker 4: right up until NRL. There are some players who are
[17:39] Speaker 4: that good at like that that mental tough running, like
[17:42] Speaker 4: long distance you're doing like four hundred meters sprints or
[17:44] Speaker 4: things like that. They could be the fittest in the
[17:46] Speaker 4: whole group. But then you put them in a drill
[17:50] Speaker 4: like a ten minute arm wrestle where you're playing a
[17:51] Speaker 4: game consistently back and forth for ten minutes, simulating a
[17:55] Speaker 4: game speed, and they're the worst fitness of them are.
[17:58] Speaker 2: It's such different.
[17:59] Speaker 3: Look at still running the person of the rower. You
[18:01] Speaker 3: get some guys that would come last in the running,
[18:03] Speaker 3: but put them on the rower because there's six foot
[18:05] Speaker 3: six foot four and you know, and all of a
[18:07] Speaker 3: sudden they just tearing the thing apart.
[18:09] Speaker 1: What's that the train like Jane, Yeah, yeah, there's all
[18:15] Speaker 1: those ones, but the first and the only person I've
[18:17] Speaker 1: ever seen that trains like Jane but plays like tars In.
[18:20] Speaker 1: It's really bangers, mate. I love him to death. Me
[18:26] Speaker 1: and him are tight, We're pretty close. But I've never
[18:29] Speaker 1: seen the bloke as a leader.
[18:31] Speaker 3: Go like, all right, but he used to.
[18:32] Speaker 1: Just come to training Sometimes I'm like, what are you
[18:34] Speaker 1: doing here? Do you want to be here? And then
[18:36] Speaker 1: you come out and make fifty tackles, run for two
[18:39] Speaker 1: and fifty and I'm like, all right, I love this
[18:41] Speaker 1: guy a bit more.
[18:43] Speaker 3: You get those red blokes.
[18:44] Speaker 2: Yeah, there are so many.
[18:46] Speaker 3: Idal on like like you. Me and he have spoken
[18:50] Speaker 3: about this a few times on our Sunday and Night chower.
[18:52] Speaker 3: My paramrit started, Mate, that what I really felt for
[18:55] Speaker 3: Roles because you haven't got you haven't got Mitch. You've
[18:58] Speaker 3: got all the uncertainty around Dylan Brown. Mate, they're getting
[19:02] Speaker 3: getting hammered. I reckon. Everything changed in that football side
[19:06] Speaker 3: against Saint George, that day against the Dragons when you
[19:09] Speaker 3: come on into that middle. From the moment you come on, mate,
[19:12] Speaker 3: everything started to fall into place, like did you did
[19:16] Speaker 3: you feel that yourself? That was let me ask that
[19:19] Speaker 3: different way to actually be more? How good? How good
[19:22] Speaker 3: does it feel to be the club where you are
[19:25] Speaker 3: like one of the central leaders.
[19:27] Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's when I first come over and
[19:31] Speaker 1: sort of join the team. Everyone's welcoming, but you've sort
[19:34] Speaker 1: of almost got to like the ego, the healthy ego.
[19:37] Speaker 1: I had to come in and be like, you prove
[19:40] Speaker 1: yourself a little bit, but then it's you talk, your actions,
[19:42] Speaker 1: you lead, and then when you come on in the field,
[19:44] Speaker 1: all I wanted to do was like, no matter what
[19:46] Speaker 1: happened on the day, I wanted to win.
[19:48] Speaker 3: I just wanted to.
[19:49] Speaker 1: Be that that got not the guy to be like
[19:51] Speaker 1: oh because of me, But I just wanted to go like, Okay,
[19:53] Speaker 1: I'm like I'm here for business.
[19:55] Speaker 3: And when it.
[19:56] Speaker 1: Sort of happened and sort of going into that game,
[19:59] Speaker 1: it's sort of they didn't they had that thirteen role
[20:03] Speaker 1: that ball playing thirteen like we got good. But I
[20:06] Speaker 1: just knew that if we got there and had to
[20:09] Speaker 1: play in a certain style that it was almost going
[20:11] Speaker 1: to help everyone around us. With the full back Isaiah Yoga,
[20:14] Speaker 1: who's honestly he's going to be He's.
[20:17] Speaker 3: Going to be a great player, like a slater top. Yeah,
[20:20] Speaker 3: Like he's just so diligent.
[20:21] Speaker 1: He's he's got that footy brain where he can read
[20:25] Speaker 1: the play, but then he's also he's a good kid,
[20:28] Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that's even better, and he's he's.
[20:30] Speaker 3: A humble kid.
[20:31] Speaker 1: He goes about his business and I like what he does.
[20:33] Speaker 1: But it's sort of just unlocks everyone that was out
[20:36] Speaker 1: there with the fox Dell Brown, and once that sort
[20:39] Speaker 1: of happened, it just made it.
[20:40] Speaker 3: A lot easier for us. He's it's not like talking
[20:44] Speaker 3: about you. Jack shaded me one morning when he's played mainly.
[20:47] Speaker 3: He said, Jason, come have a look at this, and
[20:50] Speaker 3: we used it on the shower and it was He's
[20:53] Speaker 3: kicked long down field. He led the kick chase, he
[20:57] Speaker 3: hit turbo almost on impact. Then he made two from
[21:00] Speaker 3: marker and then he turned around. Most people would tell
[21:02] Speaker 3: they're going to go for forty twenty, he'd tell the
[21:04] Speaker 3: wing to go back, but he turns around, he sprints back,
[21:07] Speaker 3: they go for the forty twenty. He catches it on
[21:09] Speaker 3: the fall, just charges in like that that forty seconds.
[21:12] Speaker 3: What he did there, I just went, mate. He's tough,
[21:15] Speaker 3: he's got great tactical awareness, and he's skillful.
[21:18] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. I think you can't teach
[21:21] Speaker 1: that or coach that. But he sort of what I
[21:25] Speaker 1: love how Rosie is. He hasn't diverted from his plan
[21:29] Speaker 1: at one bit. He stuck strong to what he beleds
[21:32] Speaker 1: is going to work. And he always says that whoever's
[21:35] Speaker 1: if you're in that position to do this, like the
[21:37] Speaker 1: Mark Attucky, you said, you've got to do it. And
[21:39] Speaker 1: then so he's done that a fair few times and
[21:43] Speaker 1: it sort of helps everybody, and then he gets back
[21:45] Speaker 1: to position and he's saving forty twenties or catch the
[21:48] Speaker 1: ball in the fall and bringing it back and then
[21:49] Speaker 1: taking the play three carry in. Honestly, that kid's going
[21:53] Speaker 1: to be a special special.
[21:55] Speaker 4: You can tell like that it's he's come from obviously
[21:58] Speaker 4: come from Panrith. But he follows a bloke like, oh seriously,
[22:02] Speaker 4: there are that many people coming out of here. But
[22:04] Speaker 4: he follows a player like Dylan Edwards, and you can
[22:07] Speaker 4: see that, like young, he's got that much talent. He
[22:09] Speaker 4: probably doesn't need to have a work ethic like he does.
[22:13] Speaker 4: But he's based so much of his game off effort. Yeah,
[22:16] Speaker 4: like plays like that where fullbacks aren't expected to make
[22:19] Speaker 4: two tackles from marker and then get back and stop
[22:21] Speaker 4: at forty twenty. But he gets that from a player
[22:24] Speaker 4: that he's followed like Dylan Edwards who's been doing that
[22:26] Speaker 4: his whole career as well.
[22:26] Speaker 3: That's right, Yeah, the bloke ahead of him then you
[22:29] Speaker 3: know he's smart kid. He can watch what he does.
[22:31] Speaker 3: And yet take that away to a bloke who deserves
[22:33] Speaker 3: a rap, Dylan and you know he's going to my
[22:36] Speaker 3: old club, Dylan Brown. A lot was going on at
[22:38] Speaker 3: the time. And the money they're offering, I mean, look,
[22:41] Speaker 3: you can't knock that back. Is he worth the not
[22:43] Speaker 3: Let's just not go there. Who knows he might turn
[22:45] Speaker 3: out to be. But the way he's conducted himself while
[22:48] Speaker 3: he's remained at your club, not many blokes will be
[22:50] Speaker 3: able to do that.
[22:50] Speaker 1: Ye undred percent. Yeah. I think we've all been in
[22:53] Speaker 1: a position where he's seen boys throw the toys out
[22:55] Speaker 1: of the cot gun stuff this some mew.
[22:58] Speaker 3: Yeah.
[22:58] Speaker 1: To his credit, he's he's rocked up every day, hasn't
[23:02] Speaker 1: put a foot wrong. Is he worth it or whatnot?
[23:05] Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. Like he's doing the best decision that's
[23:07] Speaker 1: based for his family, and that's what's been presented. And
[23:11] Speaker 1: let's be honest.
[23:12] Speaker 2: Who would say I don't get it.
[23:15] Speaker 4: I do not understand why he cops criticism because you
[23:18] Speaker 4: go the things I would do for that sort of money,
[23:21] Speaker 4: I would do some disgusting I would.
[23:24] Speaker 3: I would do things that I would not say in
[23:26] Speaker 3: front of my family.
[23:29] Speaker 4: I would dive naked in Sydney Harbor and fish out
[23:32] Speaker 4: Dylan Walker's premiershire.
[23:36] Speaker 1: That's good off the cut that I like that, I
[23:43] Speaker 1: do that.
[23:46] Speaker 4: He congratulations on two fifty as well.
[23:51] Speaker 2: Holy Ship wracked up some games.
[23:53] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's been a good career, be very tould.
[23:58] Speaker 1: But I wouldn't change it for the world.
[24:00] Speaker 3: That's yeah.
[24:01] Speaker 2: Road to three hundred, let's get behind.
[24:05] Speaker 4: It's only been about fifty Look at it the other
[24:07] Speaker 4: day when Chez and Benny Hunt played there three undre
[24:10] Speaker 4: It's only been about fifty five fifty players that have
[24:12] Speaker 4: played three undred game.
[24:13] Speaker 3: Incredible. I think might have been Terry Limb might have
[24:16] Speaker 3: been the first one anyone. Nonetheless, I'm talking ancient times here.
[24:20] Speaker 3: You know, a little hint that some of the boys
[24:22] Speaker 3: are going to have a good seasons. Trisha and I
[24:25] Speaker 3: are up at at Ballina. What we're doing up there
[24:27] Speaker 3: have done neither was really cone heads, but anyway, nonetheless
[24:31] Speaker 3: we are. We've got that and I'm coming through and
[24:34] Speaker 3: Paramatta had played a troll game the day before. Of course,
[24:37] Speaker 3: at this point you're still at Warriors, and we came
[24:39] Speaker 3: through the airport and it was the young Pacific Oland
[24:41] Speaker 3: fellow there come up to me and said, maybe a
[24:43] Speaker 3: little while ago we had paramedic come through. He goes, fuck,
[24:47] Speaker 3: he said, I reckon Junior has lost twenty kilos. He said.
[24:49] Speaker 3: He looked at how good has he gone?
[24:52] Speaker 1: Yeah, I think when everyone saw it from the start
[24:55] Speaker 1: of the season, because you don't see the boys or
[24:57] Speaker 1: see anyone outside of until round one basic. But yeah,
[25:01] Speaker 1: he's in good, Nick, very good Nick. He's I think
[25:04] Speaker 1: he dropped fifteen kegs. It's just coming back from that preseason.
[25:08] Speaker 1: I think. I don't know what happened. I haven't gone
[25:10] Speaker 1: to deep with that with him. But he's good on
[25:14] Speaker 1: his diet. He's changed that up. He goes for late
[25:17] Speaker 1: walks that night every night, like a bit of a routine,
[25:20] Speaker 1: just to you know, just.
[25:21] Speaker 3: Get that health.
[25:22] Speaker 2: How late.
[25:24] Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not a good sleep, not a good sleeper.
[25:28] Speaker 3: He's got his he's got his dog. He goes.
[25:30] Speaker 1: He goes walking on the way trips. When we went
[25:33] Speaker 1: up to when the first one I seen him walking
[25:35] Speaker 1: at eight thirty. You get I just went for a walk,
[25:37] Speaker 1: and he said that he was talking to all the
[25:39] Speaker 1: locals up there clear on the head.
[25:42] Speaker 2: I was up in Darwin earlier this year. Eight thirty
[25:44] Speaker 2: at night.
[25:45] Speaker 4: You wouldn't want to be walking around the street to
[25:46] Speaker 4: Darwin gets kind of dangerous.
[25:49] Speaker 3: You should be Okay, Foxy, What what a season fox
[25:53] Speaker 3: has had? Yeah, he's been. Man, I'm unbelievable. Like it's
[25:56] Speaker 3: similar to you, like when we had him Urler in
[25:58] Speaker 3: the year in the podcast, you could just see how
[26:00] Speaker 3: happy he was, Like, which comes back to my original point.
[26:04] Speaker 3: You just see something in that paramount aside, it's the
[26:07] Speaker 3: way he's played, the enthusiasm. You can see you're enjoying
[26:10] Speaker 3: your attack. Just looks like a happy team. Yeah, how
[26:12] Speaker 3: important that is.
[26:13] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the environment, the way that the coaches, even
[26:16] Speaker 1: the boys. The boys, it's like back in the old
[26:19] Speaker 1: school days where the boys are putting it on each
[26:22] Speaker 1: other or they've got the wheel out if you're late,
[26:24] Speaker 1: you've got to do this, like all the fun stuff
[26:26] Speaker 1: and I haven't had it for the last few years.
[26:29] Speaker 1: But just the way that Rosie Brownie semi male all
[26:32] Speaker 1: this season, coaches, how to make football relevant to what
[26:35] Speaker 1: we're actually doing during that week. It's not just God,
[26:37] Speaker 1: we're doing this where everything's got a purpose to it
[26:41] Speaker 1: and when you're coming into training. The best thing about
[26:44] Speaker 1: it is Rosie says he uses footy brain a lot.
[26:48] Speaker 1: And it's not like a black or white system where
[26:50] Speaker 1: I've had Dassi wears it's black or white. You've got
[26:52] Speaker 1: a gym, you've got to do this. It's just like
[26:54] Speaker 1: so systematically where he's like, back yourself to make your
[26:57] Speaker 1: fullty decision with your brain.
[26:59] Speaker 3: And that's for I love. And as soon as I sort.
[27:01] Speaker 1: Of clicked onto it, I was like, oh, I love
[27:04] Speaker 1: that it's in that gray area where you're allowed to
[27:06] Speaker 1: make the decision. If it's based on you, not so much.
[27:09] Speaker 1: If this person he's inside shoulder, you've got to go.
[27:13] Speaker 2: Yeah, your instinct.
[27:16] Speaker 3: I love that, Dylan. I love that. I frustrates the
[27:19] Speaker 3: shit out to me watching outside backs and the and
[27:21] Speaker 3: the wingers outside the center, and the winger obviously knows
[27:24] Speaker 3: the center has made a dud decision, but he just
[27:26] Speaker 3: jumps in the fire as well. Yeah, yeah, I mean,
[27:28] Speaker 3: use your use your use a bit of instinct to
[27:31] Speaker 3: know how to solve that. Yeah, and that's what Rosie,
[27:34] Speaker 3: that's all he backs.
[27:34] Speaker 1: He's just used your footy brain and the way that
[27:37] Speaker 1: fox he's played this year, you can tell he's been
[27:40] Speaker 1: He's real happy, he said over the Dogs. He he
[27:43] Speaker 1: said it was hard training, but he just he enjoys
[27:46] Speaker 1: just been around this group, like it's a good group.
[27:49] Speaker 1: Everyone's close with each other, always catch off coffees or
[27:52] Speaker 1: going out for breakfast in the mornings the day before
[27:54] Speaker 1: the game, and it's just getting getting around the boys.
[27:57] Speaker 4: Which is a finish the year striking going in to
[28:00] Speaker 4: obviously the year. The start of the year was pretty
[28:03] Speaker 4: like poor and it was probably wrote wrote finals off
[28:06] Speaker 4: quite early. But the way he's have finished, given all
[28:09] Speaker 4: the turnover of players, people are leaving. What you guys
[28:13] Speaker 4: have done on the field without having like Dylan Brown
[28:15] Speaker 4: out there, this must be pretty excited going into twenty
[28:17] Speaker 4: twenty six.
[28:18] Speaker 1: Yeah, undreds, and I think we've had that many injuries,
[28:21] Speaker 1: Like miss has been out for a while, he comes
[28:23] Speaker 1: in for a few weeks and he's back out turnover players.
[28:27] Speaker 1: He's bleeding a lot of young guys and clubs sort
[28:30] Speaker 1: of they need those years to sort of blood it
[28:33] Speaker 1: so you can get that continuity within each other, especially
[28:38] Speaker 1: with the young guys and who you bring in and
[28:40] Speaker 1: the way that the young guys have gone about it,
[28:42] Speaker 1: and it's been so consistent to finally again results on
[28:46] Speaker 1: the football field and seeing that, okay, our belong is
[28:49] Speaker 1: only going to be a massive help going forward into
[28:51] Speaker 1: next year. And we've all spoken about how finishing the
[28:56] Speaker 1: you know, the year strong is going to help us.
[28:58] Speaker 1: But it's just within the games. When we lost in
[29:00] Speaker 1: Melbourne a few weeks ago, top of the table Melbourne
[29:04] Speaker 1: side typically are pretty hard and we had I think
[29:08] Speaker 1: Dean Hawkins in the seven and Joe ash at the
[29:10] Speaker 1: six or one of them too. But just seeing the
[29:14] Speaker 1: confidence that the boys got with going close with the team,
[29:18] Speaker 1: that's that powerful, you sort of Our football has just
[29:22] Speaker 1: been building for the past month or two and going
[29:24] Speaker 1: into the end of the season now where we're winning games,
[29:28] Speaker 1: people are starting to believe that the first grade is now.
[29:31] Speaker 3: You just mentioned Dean Hawks got a better kick, better
[29:40] Speaker 3: touch on the ball he's kicking.
[29:41] Speaker 2: How weird is his ball drop?
[29:43] Speaker 3: Yeah? I find it weird.
[29:44] Speaker 2: If you ever, if.
[29:45] Speaker 4: People are listening, if you ever watch Dean Hawkins kick
[29:48] Speaker 4: the ball he drops it in the most unorthodox way. Yeah, yeah,
[29:51] Speaker 4: he like flips it like he flips it on such ones.
[29:55] Speaker 3: I said, maybe you sound like hit the ball better
[29:57] Speaker 3: than that he has made. It's terrible. Look at the drops.
[30:00] Speaker 3: Who gives a fuck? Yeah he's a Souse sinning boy,
[30:05] Speaker 3: and like you're part of that team deal in that
[30:08] Speaker 3: great club. It's when it's first comps is ninety seventy one,
[30:11] Speaker 3: Like if you go down Redfern Now, like I know,
[30:13] Speaker 3: whenever you've played a club, you have bonds. But South supporters,
[30:16] Speaker 3: how do they treat treat you? Nah, they're good.
[30:18] Speaker 1: I actually went down to the Logo a Grade Grand
[30:22] Speaker 1: final last weekend and you see some heads that you
[30:25] Speaker 1: haven't seen hope not to see again. Some people just
[30:30] Speaker 1: haven't changed. But it's been good. The South fans they
[30:33] Speaker 1: always gonna say I liked you better at Souse and
[30:35] Speaker 1: I go, mate, that's a different lifetime. I go for me,
[30:38] Speaker 1: it was like ten years ago. But no, everyone's pretty cool.
[30:43] Speaker 3: What about those bikes we look back at that time
[30:45] Speaker 3: like g Iron Sam, Yeah yeah, what did you learn
[30:48] Speaker 3: from those blikes? Uh?
[30:51] Speaker 1: Semi was probably the best leader of men where you're
[30:55] Speaker 1: like I walk through fire with his Blake Jack says, Yeah,
[30:59] Speaker 1: he was one of those guys where I don't know,
[31:04] Speaker 1: he's just had this thing where it's just like he's
[31:05] Speaker 1: outphae like if there was that, I don't even know
[31:07] Speaker 1: how to explain an a about him.
[31:09] Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just the the aora about him.
[31:11] Speaker 1: You knew he was going to turn up each and
[31:13] Speaker 1: every week. He was one that you're like, I'm going
[31:16] Speaker 1: to follow these guys. G I was just he was
[31:19] Speaker 1: He was a freak. He was everyone's favorite player growing up.
[31:22] Speaker 1: He was just always set back your ability. But yeah,
[31:26] Speaker 1: I think Sammi there even John Sudden to an extent
[31:28] Speaker 1: where because he's just the local boy where you sort
[31:31] Speaker 1: of can connect with him as I was a bit
[31:35] Speaker 1: of a yeah wrap back in Cison around the streets,
[31:38] Speaker 1: just cruise, cruising along just but yeah, yeah I connected
[31:46] Speaker 1: with pretty good and then but yeah, Sammy was the
[31:49] Speaker 1: one where everyone just looked towards when you needed something.
[31:52] Speaker 4: What's it like like when you go in and debut
[31:53] Speaker 4: on that side and you've got those leaders where you're
[31:56] Speaker 4: like your first interaction with him when you first go
[31:58] Speaker 4: into full time at NRAL, you're pretty intimidated.
[32:00] Speaker 3: Yeah, I was only on back then because they didn't.
[32:04] Speaker 1: Have the top thirty, but they used to bring kids
[32:06] Speaker 1: in and I was straight out of high school doing
[32:08] Speaker 1: my first preseason and I was only supposed to go
[32:11] Speaker 1: to the Christmas break. But then Madge obviously liked what
[32:15] Speaker 1: he saw and he said, I want you to come back.
[32:16] Speaker 1: And then back then I was only getting five hundred
[32:18] Speaker 1: bucks a month on the twenties contract. All the kids
[32:21] Speaker 1: now getting thousand a week. But yeah, daunting I remember.
[32:28] Speaker 1: I think the first training session the older boys went back.
[32:31] Speaker 1: We had the work week for two weeks. Madge boy see.
[32:34] Speaker 1: I think it was the Melbourne type situation where you
[32:37] Speaker 1: had to appreciate your job, and so we were on
[32:39] Speaker 1: the job site for two weeks. Go do ways in
[32:42] Speaker 1: the morning, do that, come back an afternoon, get flogged.
[32:44] Speaker 2: That sucks.
[32:45] Speaker 3: It sucks.
[32:47] Speaker 2: What did you do?
[32:48] Speaker 1: I actually had a pretty good gig. I was out
[32:50] Speaker 1: at Mossman. We're just I think we're clearing out these
[32:52] Speaker 1: blokes trees and bushes. But then we would have a
[32:55] Speaker 1: break and kick the feed up because he would have
[32:57] Speaker 1: to go all the way to the tip and then
[32:59] Speaker 1: so then we couldn't do any work until he got back.
[33:01] Speaker 1: And I did that for two days, and then I
[33:03] Speaker 1: found a ship job because one of the boys had
[33:05] Speaker 1: to pull out down Alexandria brick laying, so we had
[33:08] Speaker 1: to stack bricks for the all the boys there just
[33:12] Speaker 1: paving the way, seeing Blake smack about two packets a
[33:15] Speaker 1: day easy.
[33:18] Speaker 3: He was up there just because we were stacking the
[33:21] Speaker 3: bricks for him.
[33:21] Speaker 1: So he was just he's backing up and if he
[33:24] Speaker 1: landed down, U be stacking the bricks and he has thanks,
[33:27] Speaker 1: and then he come back here, Thanks Chimpy. It was
[33:31] Speaker 1: all these funny little things, but it was good. It
[33:34] Speaker 1: was a good experience. It was something that you got
[33:36] Speaker 1: you look back on and you go, all right, I've
[33:38] Speaker 1: done my done my beat.
[33:40] Speaker 2: Did you have a partner without doing it?
[33:41] Speaker 3: Yeah?
[33:41] Speaker 1: It was me and nuppy chorus. Oh yeah, so mean
[33:46] Speaker 1: they caught a sleeping on the and he goes, you're
[33:50] Speaker 1: not going to get fired doing that boys.
[33:52] Speaker 4: Yeah, sweet Blake said the same thing to me.
[33:55] Speaker 3: I remember.
[33:55] Speaker 2: It was me and Harry Grant.
[33:56] Speaker 4: We were doing like plumbing out of pre slabs with
[34:00] Speaker 4: lay the concrete when you go through all the pipes
[34:01] Speaker 4: to make sure they weren't cracked, and Harry was like
[34:04] Speaker 4: he'd already done one year out of school as an apprentice.
[34:06] Speaker 2: I'd come straight out of school.
[34:07] Speaker 4: And let's be honest, Dylan probably had been silver Spoon
[34:11] Speaker 4: for a lot of my life.
[34:13] Speaker 2: So back then my work ethic probably wasn't where.
[34:16] Speaker 1: I wouldn't believe it, mate, I wouldn't believe it.
[34:21] Speaker 4: And the bloke just went after me, did not leave
[34:24] Speaker 4: me alone, like just wrapping Harry all the time being
[34:27] Speaker 4: like like you you'll play.
[34:31] Speaker 2: He was bagging Dad and Joey a lot. At one stage,
[34:36] Speaker 2: asked Harry, I remember the day it was.
[34:37] Speaker 4: It was a Thursday, and I and he made me
[34:40] Speaker 4: go and shovel while him and Harry were eating sandwiches.
[34:43] Speaker 4: And then I was shoveling and he goes, you're just
[34:46] Speaker 4: like your your dad and uncle like ship on it,
[34:48] Speaker 4: like ship work ethic and all this like start hammering
[34:51] Speaker 4: you guys and I and this spokes.
[34:52] Speaker 2: From Melbourne respectfully to him. He had no idea. You
[34:57] Speaker 2: wouldn't have had.
[34:57] Speaker 4: Any idea what you en Joey were like a players.
[35:00] Speaker 4: And I said, mate, you wouldn't know the first thing
[35:01] Speaker 4: about regular.
[35:02] Speaker 3: For our new listeners, you've got to tell him the story.
[35:05] Speaker 3: There's a reason why he doesn't like you.
[35:06] Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, so there's a backstory to it.
[35:10] Speaker 4: But respectfully, respectfully, to me, this was a This was
[35:14] Speaker 4: literally after that day. I was assuming so much that
[35:17] Speaker 4: I decided to get back at him because he had
[35:18] Speaker 4: an apprentice with him who was actually with him full time,
[35:20] Speaker 4: and he gave us some inside knowledge about so you know,
[35:24] Speaker 4: like domain and those those things that are like they'll
[35:27] Speaker 4: they'll build mass houses all at once. So he was
[35:30] Speaker 4: trying to get work with like one of those trying
[35:32] Speaker 4: to get the contract, trying to get the contract, and
[35:35] Speaker 4: his apprentice told me and Harry, and Harry goes, oh,
[35:37] Speaker 4: we should get him, because he goes, you two got
[35:41] Speaker 4: this running thing.
[35:42] Speaker 2: We should we should fucking get him. Yes, sweet.
[35:46] Speaker 4: So I've texted him off my number because he didn't
[35:48] Speaker 4: have my number, and I said, may, I'm trying to
[35:51] Speaker 4: remember what the company is called. Let's call it. Let's
[35:54] Speaker 4: call it painting. You know, mate, I'm Cooper from Painting.
[35:57] Speaker 4: He mate, we've been reviewing your application to take on
[36:00] Speaker 4: the contract.
[36:00] Speaker 2: It's looking really good.
[36:02] Speaker 3: You know.
[36:03] Speaker 4: We'd love to chat with you more when you get
[36:05] Speaker 4: a chance about going forward and setting up a deal
[36:08] Speaker 4: and a contract, so you can take on a lot
[36:09] Speaker 4: of our work.
[36:10] Speaker 2: Anyway, I send it to him.
[36:11] Speaker 4: We're at hungry Jack's at like a twin servo at
[36:14] Speaker 4: a highway and I'm watching him read the message, and
[36:17] Speaker 4: then he goes outside.
[36:18] Speaker 2: He's on the blower and we're laughing, and they go like,
[36:20] Speaker 2: what's he thinking? What's he thinking?
[36:22] Speaker 4: Little did we know he'd rang his wife and he
[36:25] Speaker 4: was going, how good is this? Like we've got this
[36:27] Speaker 4: big contract. I didn't know how much it was going
[36:29] Speaker 4: to be worth. It was a substantial amount that he
[36:31] Speaker 4: thought he was about to get. He was hyping his
[36:34] Speaker 4: wife up, gone how good is this? Would changing life and
[36:36] Speaker 4: all this shit. So the then he ring. Then he
[36:40] Speaker 4: rings like his main contact at the place, and the
[36:44] Speaker 4: guy goes. He goes, man, I just got the text
[36:45] Speaker 4: from things like how do you want to do this?
[36:47] Speaker 4: And he goes, well, what number did you get it?
[36:48] Speaker 4: Off sends it to the guy. He goes, I don't
[36:51] Speaker 4: recognize this number, but leave it with me. I will
[36:53] Speaker 4: just see who sent you that text. They put it
[36:55] Speaker 4: through the system. It was no one employed by that company.
[37:01] Speaker 4: Comes back in the U and we're all sitting there
[37:02] Speaker 4: about to get to this job site and like Dandy
[37:05] Speaker 4: Nong ages away in Melbourne, and I'm sitting there and
[37:07] Speaker 4: I'm in the middle of the back seat and I'm
[37:09] Speaker 4: looking at him, and he's frustrated. And then via the
[37:12] Speaker 4: bluetooth he rings the number and I'm in the back
[37:16] Speaker 4: seat and my ringer was on and my ringing just
[37:19] Speaker 4: sads going and he goes, I still remember he's driving,
[37:22] Speaker 4: and he goes, he's looking in the rear view mirror
[37:24] Speaker 4: and and I'm just sitting there, just holding my phone,
[37:27] Speaker 4: staring straight at him, and he goes, is that you?
[37:29] Speaker 2: Is that that you?
[37:30] Speaker 4: Is it? You? Little fuck pulls over on the side
[37:33] Speaker 4: of the road, just turns back and just gives me
[37:35] Speaker 4: and Harry a biggert spray. Even turned on Harry, who
[37:38] Speaker 4: he was like his fucking produg and he goes, you
[37:42] Speaker 4: will never play in the NRL because he was supposed
[37:44] Speaker 4: to put a report through to Craig Bellamy on how
[37:46] Speaker 4: we how we went individually, and he was like, belly
[37:50] Speaker 4: A will fucking hear about this, he will hear about
[37:51] Speaker 4: what little fucking smartest.
[37:53] Speaker 2: Is, how shit you've been working.
[37:54] Speaker 4: And then me and Harry were stressing Harry's gone, You've
[37:57] Speaker 4: fucking ruined my career. I'm that sorry, Harry, like they're
[38:02] Speaker 4: still hopefully yeah, thank god. He just I think after
[38:05] Speaker 4: the day or two, I think the apprentice fest up.
[38:07] Speaker 4: So I told him because he didn't have the report
[38:09] Speaker 4: was actually quite flattering to both of us. But like
[38:14] Speaker 4: we would have been, like he probably would have piece, it's.
[38:16] Speaker 1: Got a little bit of respect, Like it's a good get.
[38:19] Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's a good get.
[38:21] Speaker 2: At what point did like, Okay, they got me, They've
[38:24] Speaker 2: gotta be.
[38:25] Speaker 3: Pretty I'll tell you what.
[38:25] Speaker 1: He worked quick, diligent, calling up his wife, calling up.
[38:30] Speaker 3: Working quick. That's when you know I.
[38:36] Speaker 4: Was actually I was stressing for weeks.
[38:40] Speaker 3: When did you live with Abby?
[38:43] Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah we did down there, I think right across
[38:46] Speaker 1: the road from the server at seven eleven. Yeah.
[38:51] Speaker 3: I saw he's in there once.
[38:52] Speaker 1: Yeah, well let's just keep it.
[38:56] Speaker 3: Yeah, just buying some smokes.
[39:00] Speaker 2: Are you still made with Appy?
[39:01] Speaker 1: Yeah?
[39:02] Speaker 3: Still, yeah, very close.
[39:03] Speaker 1: I caught up with him a few weeks ago at
[39:05] Speaker 1: my kid's birthday party, and yeah, just touch base here
[39:10] Speaker 1: and there, played golf here and there.
[39:11] Speaker 3: Yeah, legend one of.
[39:12] Speaker 2: The good blokes, because she's win that.
[39:14] Speaker 4: You are both quite young when you win that Grand Final.
[39:16] Speaker 1: It south together, right, Yeah, Yeah, that's a funny story
[39:19] Speaker 1: though one actually with us because when I was actually
[39:22] Speaker 1: got suspended, it was obviously pretty heartbreaking for Bully and
[39:26] Speaker 1: he was he was guarded, but yeah, he didn't drop
[39:29] Speaker 1: the limb. But Uppy was going to Penrith. He got
[39:31] Speaker 1: signed for I think like a two or three year
[39:33] Speaker 1: deal have at Penrith Fly because he was going real
[39:35] Speaker 1: good at the house and boys loved him at the house.
[39:38] Speaker 1: And I remember he was rolling in for the last
[39:41] Speaker 1: four or five weeks of training, but you could just
[39:43] Speaker 1: tell it he was on a bender. He was he
[39:45] Speaker 1: was walking up and down the Red Fern look going
[39:47] Speaker 1: on the train and he'd be coming back and he'd
[39:49] Speaker 1: be like, dust, what do you.
[39:50] Speaker 3: Do on the weekend? He goes, No, I went out
[39:52] Speaker 3: and with the boys on the weekend. You're good on
[39:54] Speaker 3: your mate.
[39:56] Speaker 1: Anyway, he gets the he gets the car color. Maybe
[39:58] Speaker 1: we're going to need you for the gf these blaken
[40:00] Speaker 1: like I wouldn't say rats, but he's.
[40:03] Speaker 3: Been partying every weekend.
[40:04] Speaker 1: And then he's like, okay, he turned into Superman like
[40:07] Speaker 1: that Grand Final, like everyone goes on notice, but he
[40:10] Speaker 1: fucking played awesome in that game, like if people want
[40:13] Speaker 1: to rewatch it back like I think he was. That
[40:15] Speaker 1: was his first year of grade too, and he come
[40:18] Speaker 1: in and didn't look at the place and he just.
[40:20] Speaker 4: I didn't even I didn't even realize that he'd only
[40:23] Speaker 4: got caught up for the Grand Fire.
[40:24] Speaker 1: Yeah, he got caught up late because I was like, Luke,
[40:26] Speaker 1: I think he got done for a lifting tackle and
[40:28] Speaker 1: Sonny Bill Williams, that's right.
[40:30] Speaker 3: Yeah, and then Sunny.
[40:31] Speaker 1: Bill Williams come out and said, nah, like it wasn't
[40:33] Speaker 1: there was no malice towards it, but obviously got suspended.
[40:36] Speaker 1: And then yeah he got the call up and the
[40:38] Speaker 1: week of the Grand fine, man.
[40:39] Speaker 2: That's heavy.
[40:40] Speaker 4: Yeah, that's heavy, getting suspended for a grand Yeah, it's gotten.
[40:44] Speaker 3: It's got a heart break. That's did you you'll move
[40:48] Speaker 3: to Mainly? Was that through Bob Fulton? Yeah, that was yeah,
[40:51] Speaker 3: through Yeah, the late great Bob. Yeah. Now don't gonna
[40:55] Speaker 3: I'm rely on you're honesty. When I once in the
[40:59] Speaker 3: early nineties negotiated with I was like, yeah, Mane with
[41:03] Speaker 3: the Kangaroo tal coming up next week, and man, look.
[41:08] Speaker 4: If you you know, if you if you.
[41:10] Speaker 3: Play for Manly let's just say that one of the
[41:15] Speaker 3: blokes you're competing against in the six Jersey might have
[41:17] Speaker 3: a bad groin or might have a codding. I didn't
[41:22] Speaker 3: sign with Manly and I didn't get what about like
[41:25] Speaker 3: those It could be very persuasive, very persuasive.
[41:28] Speaker 1: I think that's the only reason I've got the gig
[41:30] Speaker 1: in the New South Wales.
[41:32] Speaker 3: Jersey because I was playing dog shit. I was playing
[41:36] Speaker 3: dog shit.
[41:37] Speaker 1: I remember because when we're signing mate on the top
[41:40] Speaker 1: of the border at the Blues, we can get you
[41:43] Speaker 1: in the Blues. And I was sort of eighteenth man,
[41:45] Speaker 1: but I was like, oh, yeah, maybe this is my
[41:47] Speaker 1: way into the Blues and very persuasive. Man, good fellow,
[41:53] Speaker 1: good man. And then had so many different phone numbers
[41:57] Speaker 1: come up on my phone and it's the same bloke
[42:00] Speaker 1: behind it, multiple phones, multiple phone numbers.
[42:04] Speaker 2: Could even.
[42:06] Speaker 3: There was Journa, there was Jono that was having a
[42:09] Speaker 3: blue at the time with Boseil and he just goes, Mate,
[42:12] Speaker 3: he had just completely rattled him. He'd be going, he said,
[42:16] Speaker 3: he'd be having on the phone, give it to him
[42:19] Speaker 3: and you go hang on a second. Then Bozo would
[42:21] Speaker 3: pick up having Yeah, we're talking talking on the phone
[42:25] Speaker 3: to somebody else. Go mate, anyway, I've got this bloke
[42:27] Speaker 3: on the other on the other phone, hang on a second,
[42:29] Speaker 3: then straight back into him, he said, mate, it was
[42:32] Speaker 3: he said, mate, he learned, he said, mate, don't funk.
[42:34] Speaker 1: With Yeah, I've never met it like a powerful person
[42:37] Speaker 1: like I Sea the power Brokers. Everyone knew it was
[42:41] Speaker 1: Russell Crave. But when I got to me and me
[42:42] Speaker 1: and Bozo was the one running the ship. Yeah, just
[42:46] Speaker 1: how much power and poor that he had within and
[42:48] Speaker 1: a roll with itself?
[42:49] Speaker 3: Yeah, and manly.
[42:51] Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder if he because when you have you
[42:53] Speaker 4: ever done that prank where you're ring two Chinese restaurants?
[42:57] Speaker 2: Do you know that one?
[42:58] Speaker 3: And then you put it.
[42:59] Speaker 4: You go hang on want to say hang on to
[43:00] Speaker 4: and then you put him on the phone together and
[43:02] Speaker 4: they go what do you want?
[43:03] Speaker 2: And they argue on the phone.
[43:04] Speaker 4: I wonder if did that Mayes?
[43:07] Speaker 3: What about Russell? Mate?
[43:08] Speaker 1: Yeah? No, I wasn't.
[43:11] Speaker 3: I wasn't.
[43:12] Speaker 1: The lucky ones and a lot of big dogs in
[43:15] Speaker 1: the Yeah, there's a lot of big dogs.
[43:16] Speaker 3: I was. I was.
[43:16] Speaker 1: I was a new coming in but yeah, I had
[43:20] Speaker 1: some just normal conversations, but yeah, yeah, not too much.
[43:24] Speaker 3: To do with him, to be honest, a roll and anything.
[43:28] Speaker 1: I got ahead for a radio mate, Did.
[43:31] Speaker 4: You ever go like, what's it called quad biking?
[43:36] Speaker 3: That was?
[43:37] Speaker 1: That was my first season that mainly yeah, I left.
[43:40] Speaker 1: So when when the boys went up and had their
[43:42] Speaker 1: little pre season camp up, there were up in Coffs
[43:45] Speaker 1: as well at the same time. And when I was
[43:46] Speaker 1: coming home, look, he caused me up, what's happened?
[43:51] Speaker 3: Man?
[43:51] Speaker 1: And then he started plying up and then he told
[43:53] Speaker 1: me the whole story about him and Russell Crowe and
[43:55] Speaker 1: then I was like, oh that ship bro. Sorry to
[43:57] Speaker 1: he like, there's anything you need let me know, because yeah,
[44:01] Speaker 1: no worries. And then after that year he I think
[44:04] Speaker 1: he was still there for one year and then Semi
[44:07] Speaker 1: Burgess had his wedding. I forgot where it was, but
[44:10] Speaker 1: Russell Craig got up and spoke, and me and Kiri
[44:12] Speaker 1: were blind. We're playing these silly games through all the boys,
[44:15] Speaker 1: like whoever took you know, the handkerchief and someone he
[44:18] Speaker 1: had to scald the drink, but Luke Key was blind.
[44:20] Speaker 3: It was maggot.
[44:22] Speaker 1: And Russell Craig got up in city speech and then
[44:25] Speaker 1: after he spoke, everyone sort of clapped and he stood up.
[44:27] Speaker 1: He stood up, he kicked.
[44:28] Speaker 3: His chair backwards.
[44:33] Speaker 1: Because he's yeah, yeah, good, good bloke.
[44:38] Speaker 4: Because then he went the Roosters after that he was
[44:40] Speaker 4: playing that good at the Roosters too.
[44:42] Speaker 3: Should have been a lifelong Souse player, yeah, should have
[44:45] Speaker 3: been one grand mate won a Grand final then? How
[44:47] Speaker 3: he won three grand finals? Flu?
[44:49] Speaker 1: Yeah he won one of the bunnies into the trucks.
[44:51] Speaker 3: Yeah man medal. Oh yeah, he's over in Catalana at
[44:56] Speaker 3: the moment. The English Super League, fear to say by
[44:58] Speaker 3: his comments last month and not a big fan, that's
[45:02] Speaker 3: all right.
[45:03] Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently he was getting booed and stuff and people.
[45:07] Speaker 1: That's what I think. I've seen leam night cruising around
[45:09] Speaker 1: that river.
[45:10] Speaker 3: Beach the other day night, across the road yesterday. He's everywhere.
[45:19] Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, he was on the phone.
[45:25] Speaker 3: Maddie here he goes. I look at it, man, is
[45:30] Speaker 3: he is she really going out with him?
[45:34] Speaker 2: Nies? I reckon, I rate ninety.
[45:36] Speaker 4: Is a good looking fella, of course, and he's in
[45:37] Speaker 4: a like he's got a good he's always had.
[45:41] Speaker 1: But you know he's a confident person, real confident.
[45:45] Speaker 4: He's got a quirky very.
[45:47] Speaker 1: Quirky on the side another day.
[45:52] Speaker 4: Of all the clubs you've played that, actually, let's go
[45:54] Speaker 4: to Manly for a sec because you had such a good,
[45:57] Speaker 4: such a good crewd Mound. You're still mates with a
[45:59] Speaker 4: lot of the boys there, Chairs and all those lads
[46:02] Speaker 4: of all the clubs excluding Eels, because you're there. Now,
[46:06] Speaker 4: what do what do you have your fondest memories from?
[46:09] Speaker 1: Yeah, many, Mammy, He's probably I've spent I think seven
[46:12] Speaker 1: to eight years here, so yeah, I grew some good
[46:17] Speaker 1: relationships with the boys, some good nights, some some fun times.
[46:22] Speaker 1: But forty cents I learned a lot of Chairs and
[46:27] Speaker 1: Turbo one hundred percent. Those two were probably the two
[46:31] Speaker 1: football IQ guys that played with in a sense of
[46:36] Speaker 1: knowing the game and what cues. But as good as
[46:40] Speaker 1: they are on the field, off the field, yeah they
[46:43] Speaker 1: go pretty good. They go pretty hard as well.
[46:45] Speaker 4: They're pretty well the years that you were there, I
[46:50] Speaker 4: think it was the next level of like work hard,
[46:53] Speaker 4: play hard, like the.
[46:54] Speaker 3: Boys would like.
[46:55] Speaker 4: When I was at Manly it was a little bit less,
[46:57] Speaker 4: sort of post COVID. I think everyone kind of slowed
[47:00] Speaker 4: right out and at the time Turbo had stopped really
[47:02] Speaker 4: drinking because.
[47:03] Speaker 1: You're talking about Yeah, okay, so when I was at
[47:05] Speaker 1: the house, it was very professional, like I was strict,
[47:09] Speaker 1: as I wouldn't say strict, but I was like on
[47:11] Speaker 1: the straight and narrow, like Madge poured us in the
[47:13] Speaker 1: line pretty quick and no drinking here, no drinking.
[47:15] Speaker 3: I've got the meaning.
[47:16] Speaker 1: I turned into a pi sead, full blown pie.
[47:18] Speaker 3: Yeah I was.
[47:19] Speaker 1: I think it was all good spirits.
[47:22] Speaker 3: No one's got in trouble by training.
[47:25] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so well, yeah, it was the old score
[47:27] Speaker 1: of just come in. If you get a party, you
[47:29] Speaker 1: get to train hard. And yeah, that's what's.
[47:33] Speaker 4: It come from that they come from that culture of
[47:36] Speaker 4: that premiership winning side like the Stewart brothers Chuck who
[47:40] Speaker 4: they all ripped in so hard on the field, and
[47:43] Speaker 4: then they got connected away from it by having drink ups.
[47:46] Speaker 3: Yeah, like it was just the way I understand. I
[47:48] Speaker 3: understand health wise. But what you find is people a
[47:53] Speaker 3: lot of times just because the team might have bit
[47:54] Speaker 3: of drinking culture and have a great time, it doesn't
[47:56] Speaker 3: mean they're off the rails. What it is a lot
[47:58] Speaker 3: of times is people who are off the rails. Oftentimes
[48:03] Speaker 3: we'll get on the booze a lot of times, but
[48:05] Speaker 3: a lot of times it's a social thing. If you
[48:08] Speaker 3: can continually square the ledger, then you know, within reason, Yeah,
[48:13] Speaker 3: it's okay with reason. Yeah, houses we're talking about appy
[48:22] Speaker 3: o night, we're talking about Fletcher. I will go, mate,
[48:25] Speaker 3: do you have a beer? And that then he goes
[48:27] Speaker 3: an't any the boys do? After game? It was happy happy,
[48:32] Speaker 3: So yeah, he switched real quick.
[48:34] Speaker 1: He used to be one of the looser ones. Now
[48:37] Speaker 1: he's switched. But that's my favorite top of bees. After
[48:39] Speaker 1: the game and just with the boys, like and all
[48:42] Speaker 1: the young all the young fellows, they go straight to
[48:44] Speaker 1: the get off your fucking phone mate, Yes, let's go
[48:47] Speaker 1: get a beer. If you don't want to drink, get
[48:49] Speaker 1: a protein shake, just just sit around, talk about it.
[48:52] Speaker 3: No rush. It's just that's the greatest time.
[48:56] Speaker 4: That's the best of them because these days, a lot
[48:58] Speaker 4: of the a lot of the young blos these days,
[49:00] Speaker 4: it's a culture shift. And again it's like they don't
[49:03] Speaker 4: really drink, like they'll get together over coffee and that's
[49:06] Speaker 4: how they or other stuff that they're into. But the
[49:09] Speaker 4: new generation of young guys are kind of very professional,
[49:12] Speaker 4: which is sick.
[49:14] Speaker 3: Yeah, we're getting towards the end of it, I'll just
[49:17] Speaker 3: say this, if I'll ask you this, let's remove rosy.
[49:23] Speaker 3: If you could pre paramount, if we had to pick
[49:26] Speaker 3: an all star team in around you, who would you
[49:29] Speaker 3: pick as your coach? Which coach understood you the most
[49:32] Speaker 3: and got the best out of you?
[49:35] Speaker 1: Only by a coach that I've had? Yeah, yeah, okay,
[49:40] Speaker 1: who understood me? I think Madge gave me he believed
[49:45] Speaker 1: in me. I wouldn't probably the most, but yeah, he's
[49:49] Speaker 1: the one that sort of showed me the way how
[49:50] Speaker 1: to be a first grader, and he believed in me
[49:53] Speaker 1: a lot onder He whipped me in mine real quick
[49:56] Speaker 1: because I know my mentality and my personas. If you
[50:00] Speaker 1: give me too much, I'll take an extra mile. Where
[50:04] Speaker 1: I thought I was going all right when I first
[50:05] Speaker 1: got into grade, then he pulled me back in. He goes,
[50:08] Speaker 1: you need to fix this, that and this, and I
[50:11] Speaker 1: was like okay, but it sort of kept me grounded.
[50:13] Speaker 1: So I think if I was a Paramatta, people might
[50:17] Speaker 1: say his ways of training hard and stuff that was
[50:20] Speaker 1: definitely what I needed at that time. Benny young Feller
[50:23] Speaker 1: watching you know, guys like g I semi doing all
[50:26] Speaker 1: the stuff that what we had to do. You sort
[50:29] Speaker 1: of grew the respect of like, okay, not everyone's the same,
[50:33] Speaker 1: but now looking at being thirty year old, now I'm
[50:36] Speaker 1: gonna fuck that. My body couldn't hold on.
[50:40] Speaker 3: So that all starts. Who's your who's your captain is
[50:44] Speaker 3: the same? Yes?
[50:45] Speaker 1: Yeah, Sam, you would have to be the captain?
[50:46] Speaker 3: Yeah, yeap, okay, who's your who's your key man? Like
[50:51] Speaker 3: you know when when the game's on the line, you
[50:53] Speaker 3: got guys like Chairs and everyone guys should play with
[50:57] Speaker 3: who's that who's that bloke you look to?
[51:00] Speaker 1: I think game on the line, I want Chess in
[51:02] Speaker 1: my team.
[51:02] Speaker 3: He just gets it done.
[51:04] Speaker 1: And you know what I loved about Chairs was he
[51:07] Speaker 1: didn't care about where he was ending up and the
[51:10] Speaker 1: end of sets he goes, I'll find my best kick.
[51:13] Speaker 1: But game on the line, people don't want the ball
[51:16] Speaker 1: in the hens.
[51:16] Speaker 3: Chairs is the one that.
[51:21] Speaker 4: It is interesting actually say that about Chans because so
[51:23] Speaker 4: many like let him listen, so so many.
[51:25] Speaker 2: Halfbacks that that play before the last.
[51:27] Speaker 4: Tackle, they want to end in a spot where it's
[51:29] Speaker 4: the easiest kick for them. Chess are so good. It
[51:32] Speaker 4: just he does whatever, and then when it's fifth tackle,
[51:34] Speaker 4: wherever he ends up, he just does. He just gets
[51:37] Speaker 4: the job done wherever he is.
[51:38] Speaker 1: Well, when I was at the Warriors, it was always
[51:41] Speaker 1: last place set up and like, no, I don't play
[51:43] Speaker 1: the queue, play that, and I was like, fuck no,
[51:47] Speaker 1: if you know not, just play football. But if you
[51:50] Speaker 1: see the queue and you play it, then it takes
[51:53] Speaker 1: away the imagination of the player.
[51:55] Speaker 3: And that's what I hated.
[51:56] Speaker 1: I hated the most about that, not just that you
[52:00] Speaker 1: know at the Warriors, but certain coaches will coach that
[52:03] Speaker 1: out of you.
[52:03] Speaker 3: Yep.
[52:04] Speaker 1: And I think when I first got into grade it
[52:07] Speaker 1: was sort of similar like that, because back in twenty
[52:09] Speaker 1: thirteen when I first debute, it was, you know, get
[52:12] Speaker 1: through your set kicklong, get through your set kicklong, we'll
[52:14] Speaker 1: get a pedalty somewhere and we'll be able to strike
[52:17] Speaker 1: a set together. But with Chas and Turbot, it was
[52:20] Speaker 1: always like if it's on, but on, and we're going
[52:24] Speaker 1: to play and we're just going to take. And then
[52:25] Speaker 1: chairs always spoke about it goes I'm never not going
[52:27] Speaker 1: to be told not to take something I don't see
[52:30] Speaker 1: to believe it, yeah, yeah, And I love that.
[52:32] Speaker 3: I love that.
[52:33] Speaker 1: And then the way we get to paramount.
[52:35] Speaker 3: What I love about you know, Brownie.
[52:37] Speaker 1: And Rosy is Brownie takes care of the attack of
[52:40] Speaker 1: Rosie is like use your footy brain. And then Brownie's like,
[52:44] Speaker 1: I'm never not going to tell you not to take something.
[52:45] Speaker 1: If you see something, go do it.
[52:47] Speaker 3: That's it.
[52:47] Speaker 1: Yeah, and I love it.
[52:48] Speaker 3: Blokes like you win the game fromm and the least
[52:50] Speaker 3: the defense can do is if you make an error
[52:53] Speaker 3: or is it point you see something and it ends
[52:55] Speaker 3: up being a poor option and they come up with it. Well,
[52:57] Speaker 3: what they can do for you is defend the err
[52:59] Speaker 3: yea per but on one side has got to help
[53:01] Speaker 3: out the Dylan. Mate, it's been it's been fantastic to
[53:05] Speaker 3: catch up again. May congratulations on the past season. Appreciate
[53:08] Speaker 3: it's been fantastic.
[53:09] Speaker 2: Any troops coming up?
[53:11] Speaker 1: Nah, pick Ken Island? No troops, I don't know. Yeah,
[53:16] Speaker 1: I've gotta I got to get back on the blow
[53:18] Speaker 1: ye who's keen.
[53:20] Speaker 2: The bad phone?
[53:23] Speaker 3: Hopefully in your time, PARAMOUNTA, you can win that first
[53:26] Speaker 3: compstance eighty six.
[53:27] Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be awesome.
[53:28] Speaker 3: Thank you.
[53:29] Speaker 1: She's guys

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