# #79 | Willie Peters | Vegas, Beating the Broncos & Next NRL Coach?

An episode of [Backstage with Cooper & Matty Johns](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1729949087), 25 Feb 2026, 38 min.

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Hull KR head coach Willie Peters joins us fresh off a huge World Club Challenge win over the Brisbane Broncos, breaking down how his side pulled off the upset. With his coaching stock rising fast, we tackle the big question — is Willie Peters the next NRL head coach in line for the National Rugby League? Subscribe, Watch, and Follow Catch the full episode on YouTube and stay updated by following us on social media: Linktree: Backstage with Cooper & Matty Contact Us For any enquiries, email us at: contact@johnsmedia.com.au See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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[0:00] Speaker 1: Need to be covered a really in cut stuff.
[0:03] Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, okay, we'll after I thought I thought.
[0:11] Speaker 1: We're going to pull that out mat Yeah, you know,
[0:13] Speaker 1: just unbelievable.
[0:15] Speaker 2: Congratulations really thanks me, Like it's probably doing yourself a
[0:22] Speaker 2: disservice to say I've been pleasantly surprised. But has there
[0:26] Speaker 2: been a little bit? I mean, look, going there to
[0:28] Speaker 2: win the all four trophies is unbelievable.
[0:31] Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I think you're always going with hope and
[0:33] Speaker 1: the first year we sort of want to be the
[0:35] Speaker 1: top four club, and then we achieved that, So I
[0:37] Speaker 1: think we probably achieved in that first year, and then
[0:40] Speaker 1: because we got there, you want to set the bar higher.
[0:43] Speaker 1: So we set the bar high the second year and
[0:46] Speaker 1: made a Grand Final, and then off the back of that,
[0:48] Speaker 1: it's a bit more expectation then because you're expected to win,
[0:53] Speaker 1: you expected to be in the big games, and we
[0:55] Speaker 1: expect a lot of ourselves. So we went out and
[0:58] Speaker 1: got jar where Hargreaves and and Minky McLaurin too. Genuinely, yeah,
[1:05] Speaker 1: standing he saved his best the last and I think
[1:08] Speaker 1: people sort of criticize the wrong word but probably saying
[1:11] Speaker 1: that he wasn't as good on the field the start
[1:14] Speaker 1: of the year, but what they don't see is what
[1:15] Speaker 1: he did away from the field, and he makes others better.
[1:18] Speaker 3: It is a great leader in amongst the club.
[1:20] Speaker 1: Yeahs outstanding, Like you can't put a value on some
[1:24] Speaker 1: of the stuff that he gave us. And you know,
[1:26] Speaker 1: we sort of did a mini hand over to the
[1:27] Speaker 1: boys last week because it's like you don't have those
[1:30] Speaker 1: blokes anymore. They've you know, they've helped, I suppose educate
[1:34] Speaker 1: and teach you what when it looks like and leadership
[1:36] Speaker 1: looks like and they've sort of taken over.
[1:38] Speaker 3: How much easier is it?
[1:39] Speaker 4: I feel like years gone past from NRL players go
[1:42] Speaker 4: to the Super League, they probably go to some of
[1:44] Speaker 4: the bigger clubs like Leeds Warrington that since you guys
[1:47] Speaker 4: have won, we are.
[1:54] Speaker 3: How much easier. Since you want to attract, like you know,
[1:57] Speaker 3: people from the n RAL wanted to come over.
[1:59] Speaker 1: To whole, it's difficult even over there because holes sort
[2:02] Speaker 1: of isolated. So you know, you've got some hellns we're
[2:04] Speaker 1: going to lead there all together, and then Leeds and
[2:07] Speaker 1: Huddersfield and areas like that. So a lot of the time,
[2:11] Speaker 1: if you know, players over there go to another team.
[2:14] Speaker 1: They're going locally, so they don't they don't want to
[2:16] Speaker 1: move too much too often, so it's difficult like over there,
[2:20] Speaker 1: but then to get players from overseas. Look, I think
[2:24] Speaker 1: they're going to the bigger club straight away. So it
[2:26] Speaker 1: certainly helpedlesus, Like there's no doubt when in that or
[2:29] Speaker 1: making the final and the Challenge Cut the first year
[2:32] Speaker 1: and then being in the in the Grand Final the
[2:33] Speaker 1: second year certainly helped us.
[2:35] Speaker 4: Attracks like Jared, is there a bit of like, is
[2:38] Speaker 4: there ever a bit of hostility between the English players
[2:41] Speaker 4: and Elsie players coming over?
[2:42] Speaker 3: I imagine at different times they would.
[2:44] Speaker 1: Yeah, any player that comes over, you've got to earn
[2:47] Speaker 1: their respect, even because like Jared, like the boys had
[2:51] Speaker 1: these skits that they do and the staff and they'll
[2:53] Speaker 1: pay me out the most. I was like, but he
[2:58] Speaker 1: may he loved it, and yeah, so they've got to
[3:00] Speaker 1: earn your you know, it doesn't matter what you're doing.
[3:02] Speaker 1: I was, You've got to earn their respect, that's for sure.
[3:05] Speaker 2: I think the first Challenge Cup I ever saw when
[3:06] Speaker 2: he was seventy nine or eighty with whole k ol
[3:09] Speaker 2: Kingston rovers played in Johnny Dory.
[3:11] Speaker 3: He was there.
[3:12] Speaker 2: Roger Mill was the captain to give people an insight, like,
[3:15] Speaker 2: you know, we look at great rivalries and regular wet.
[3:18] Speaker 2: First we talked about Roosters and the Bunis. But you
[3:20] Speaker 2: know there's lots of great right, but whole Kingston rovers
[3:24] Speaker 2: Hull f C is like historically one of the most brutal.
[3:27] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's on steroids, mate, Like I was part of
[3:29] Speaker 1: seat House and Roosters, which is huge. But it doesn't
[3:32] Speaker 1: matter where you're sitting on the ladder, it doesn't matter. Yeah,
[3:36] Speaker 1: what you've come to year before. It's it's absolutely massive
[3:38] Speaker 1: to them, like the Device family literally really, yeah, it's cool.
[3:41] Speaker 1: What sort of family division? Well, I go to hold
[3:50] Speaker 1: It's it's crazy, but it's an unrugby part of Yeah,
[3:53] Speaker 1: it's crazy, mate, I heard mate.
[3:56] Speaker 2: So you when when there's bit of the broncos you
[3:58] Speaker 2: didn't play the hunt around you played the hollow seas ground.
[4:01] Speaker 1: Yeah, just leave anything. Yeah we did with their dressing
[4:05] Speaker 1: rooms are different columnies. It was pretty cool because our owner,
[4:10] Speaker 1: he's gone through a lot in terms of what he's
[4:12] Speaker 1: caught from the other side. Like even I didn't know this,
[4:15] Speaker 1: but they had won I think the Challenge Cup and
[4:17] Speaker 1: they flew like a helicopper or something over because we're
[4:21] Speaker 1: playing for a game, possibly for relegation, so they did
[4:24] Speaker 1: it deliberately. So things like that, you know, over the years,
[4:27] Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter who we played. I'll get the
[4:29] Speaker 1: phone call that week. He lets me do the thing,
[4:31] Speaker 1: but it's about being Yeah. So look, I think for him,
[4:35] Speaker 1: there's no doubt we wanted to get another, say, thirteen
[4:37] Speaker 1: thousand bums on seats at k but there was a
[4:40] Speaker 1: little bit more.
[4:41] Speaker 4: We're going to ask the broncers. But we've spoke talking
[4:44] Speaker 4: to Brian Carney last night. You've shown us our footage
[4:46] Speaker 4: of Eurasia a little respect. That's the theme song for
[4:50] Speaker 4: you guys.
[4:50] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you got to it's for for the game,
[4:54] Speaker 1: so pretty much before kickoff comes on and they start
[4:57] Speaker 1: singing it, well kickoffs on. It's unbelievable. I don't have to.
[5:01] Speaker 3: We're trying to ring his manager last night, getting the city.
[5:06] Speaker 3: We're ringing it.
[5:07] Speaker 1: Brian says, I'll get him on the party.
[5:08] Speaker 3: I'll get into the pot. He broke. I think Brian
[5:10] Speaker 3: ranging about fifty times and never picked up one.
[5:13] Speaker 2: Having having said that, Brian did we did give Brian
[5:16] Speaker 2: to bed in.
[5:19] Speaker 1: What I do want to leave that for?
[5:22] Speaker 2: It was like, you know, it's funny when you come
[5:24] Speaker 2: to value, so it's almost like that that opponent that
[5:26] Speaker 2: you go right, okay, they're not going to get us
[5:29] Speaker 2: this time.
[5:29] Speaker 1: We're where it's going to happen. This Jesus first night,
[5:33] Speaker 1: it's got me again.
[5:34] Speaker 3: Yeah, this is what he been spotted. We spoke to
[5:37] Speaker 3: on the phone earlier.
[5:38] Speaker 4: I hadn't got out of bed yet and he was
[5:40] Speaker 4: in bed quite early when we wheeled him in the room.
[5:43] Speaker 3: That was just before midnight.
[5:48] Speaker 1: It's a good form today after this, and he brought
[5:51] Speaker 1: he were to this up.
[5:52] Speaker 3: We went to Old Red the Country by Blake Shelton's
[5:54] Speaker 3: country Bar. He's got a good one and he couldn't.
[5:57] Speaker 1: Come back with just the girliest cowboy hats. With four
[6:00] Speaker 1: of them.
[6:01] Speaker 4: We made us all wear them and it was so
[6:03] Speaker 4: embarrassing the whole night whearing these are what about.
[6:06] Speaker 1: The Old Red?
[6:07] Speaker 4: They had the dragons by storm.
[6:11] Speaker 2: They converted the Yeah, the converted the pubble the bar
[6:15] Speaker 2: into like a dragon's clubhouse.
[6:17] Speaker 3: All the tiglights every screen. They had dragons highlights which
[6:20] Speaker 3: went on for about forty five seconds.
[6:22] Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it was funny podcasts come out.
[6:27] Speaker 4: You want to be out of down by there, He cares, Yeah,
[6:31] Speaker 4: it's funny because like, respectfully, they haven't had a whole
[6:34] Speaker 4: heap blights the last couple of years. They were playing
[6:37] Speaker 4: some of the Dragons tighlights come up and Brett Morris
[6:39] Speaker 4: was in it and I said it blind.
[6:40] Speaker 1: I said, Brett Morris, like it.
[6:44] Speaker 3: Was like you could see the static on some of
[6:46] Speaker 3: the footage of the.
[6:47] Speaker 1: What about the poster they had up on the wall.
[6:49] Speaker 1: So there's gutha.
[6:51] Speaker 2: Someone Dan Atkinson, Dan Acketts, and there's someone in the
[6:55] Speaker 2: middle standing there.
[6:57] Speaker 1: We're all going but who is that? No one knows.
[7:00] Speaker 1: It might have been under twenties players.
[7:02] Speaker 3: It's like a young, really young Dagon's player.
[7:04] Speaker 1: But yeah, Miller.
[7:10] Speaker 2: Willy for you with your coaching, right, like when when
[7:13] Speaker 2: when you went over, like being a head coach with
[7:16] Speaker 2: all the pressure, there's no doubt whethy like your knowledge
[7:19] Speaker 2: of the game tactically second and none.
[7:21] Speaker 1: But of course it's such a good bloke, really good blake.
[7:24] Speaker 2: People like we're sort of going, okay, he going to
[7:27] Speaker 2: be able to be ruthless enough.
[7:29] Speaker 1: How what's enabled you to do that? Will he? Well?
[7:33] Speaker 1: I think honesty. Like I think I'm the sort of
[7:35] Speaker 1: black always when others treat me the way I want
[7:38] Speaker 1: to treat them. So when I played, I hated coaches
[7:40] Speaker 1: that weren't honest. They weren't straight. At the point with me,
[7:43] Speaker 1: nothing bugs me more than the lies and people the
[7:45] Speaker 1: bookshit basically so sorry. So I think I think for me, mate,
[7:55] Speaker 1: he's just yeah, being honest with the players. And if
[7:57] Speaker 1: I see something el Wayne Bennet talks about like if
[8:00] Speaker 1: you you walk past something and you don't say, that's
[8:04] Speaker 1: the standards accept top thing. So for me, I live
[8:07] Speaker 1: by that really, Like, if I see something, I'll say it.
[8:09] Speaker 1: How hard is it really like to get there?
[8:10] Speaker 2: You might have an experienced bloke or someone that's a
[8:13] Speaker 2: little prickly you know that you're going right, I've got
[8:15] Speaker 2: to get up there and I've got to go there
[8:16] Speaker 2: and have a yain doing.
[8:17] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's difficult. I mean, dropping players or moving players on.
[8:21] Speaker 1: They're all different conversations because you don't you know, you
[8:24] Speaker 1: genuinely care about the blow. But it's all part of
[8:26] Speaker 1: the job, I think, you know, Like growing up, I
[8:29] Speaker 1: was always you know, I have to be around people
[8:31] Speaker 1: all the time and you know, if people didn't like
[8:33] Speaker 1: me as a kid, I was like, I didn't take
[8:37] Speaker 1: that too well, you know, and I thought, well, when
[8:39] Speaker 1: I get in the coaching, it's going to be the
[8:40] Speaker 1: complete opposite. Unfortunately on the way, like you're coaching sixteens
[8:45] Speaker 1: and eighteens and you're coaching makes parents and but yeah,
[8:50] Speaker 1: so your mates are playing, the kids are playing, so
[8:54] Speaker 1: you know, not picking them or whatever. You have hard conversations.
[8:57] Speaker 1: But I think it was good grounding for me to
[8:59] Speaker 1: be able to to do that, you know. And then
[9:02] Speaker 1: and then as you get through the grades, nothing changes
[9:04] Speaker 1: because you're going by the same principles, what you believe in. Well,
[9:07] Speaker 1: these boys are not some coaching Stu Bullyers.
[9:10] Speaker 4: Yeah, it is funny that the politics of like, yeah,
[9:14] Speaker 4: probably underestimate the factor because of NURL parents.
[9:17] Speaker 3: Rarely ever you ever see him get involved because everyone's
[9:19] Speaker 3: an adult.
[9:20] Speaker 4: But just how much parents can drive behind the scenes,
[9:23] Speaker 4: even just driving like you might do work with a
[9:26] Speaker 4: kid on like you know, you just this is going
[9:28] Speaker 4: to be your mentality, Like you know, you just got
[9:29] Speaker 4: to keep working hard, YadA, YadA, YadA. But and then
[9:31] Speaker 4: the parents get in their head about he's wrong. You
[9:35] Speaker 4: to be doing this to this and then I mean
[9:36] Speaker 4: the next day and all the work you did with
[9:38] Speaker 4: them the day before and getting their head around you know,
[9:40] Speaker 4: why they might not be in the team completely strips
[9:42] Speaker 4: it all that.
[9:43] Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I mean they're looking through what they love
[9:46] Speaker 1: their kids and all that. But at the end of
[9:48] Speaker 1: the day, like, yeah, you got a job to do,
[9:51] Speaker 1: and that's that's be honest with it, you know, and
[9:53] Speaker 1: like you say, mate, you might get into a certain thing,
[9:55] Speaker 1: you might they might be getting, yeah, getting somewhere with
[9:58] Speaker 1: them and then their parents in the well in the
[10:00] Speaker 1: scenes of telling them something else and you lose all that.
[10:03] Speaker 1: But look, I think that's probably been the that was
[10:05] Speaker 1: the best grounding for me, were dealing with difficult parents
[10:08] Speaker 1: along the way, because you know, I think the players
[10:11] Speaker 1: now are probably easy to deal with. To be honest,
[10:13] Speaker 1: most of the guys they did want honesty, and as
[10:17] Speaker 1: I say, it's not easy having those conversations, but you know,
[10:20] Speaker 1: it's all part of it. We're talking.
[10:22] Speaker 2: I was talking to someone about it. They said, were
[10:24] Speaker 2: this whole KR where to Kingston Rover sit? As far
[10:27] Speaker 2: as if they're an NRL club, I likened it to
[10:29] Speaker 2: a little bit probably the Tigers, and that mean like,
[10:33] Speaker 2: but they are a club is great support.
[10:35] Speaker 1: They're always trying to punch above their weight.
[10:37] Speaker 2: Little bit like Willie when you went there, can you
[10:40] Speaker 2: identify because what you've done is unprecedented, Like we were
[10:44] Speaker 2: talking last night, Brian, they'll talk about you in one
[10:46] Speaker 2: hundred years time.
[10:47] Speaker 1: There what was can you identify? Turning point?
[10:51] Speaker 3: Willy?
[10:56] Speaker 1: I think what we did at the start was probably
[10:59] Speaker 1: the two before I come over. So they used to
[11:02] Speaker 1: like just say kick off, they'd move the ball and
[11:04] Speaker 1: played too. They paid the notes for on play two
[11:06] Speaker 1: usually they're on you know. So for me, that was
[11:08] Speaker 1: a feel good team, you know, and if they didn't work,
[11:11] Speaker 1: that didn't work, then they struggled. So I looked at
[11:14] Speaker 1: them and went, Okay, they like to attack them. That's
[11:17] Speaker 1: that's the that's their go to where For me, you know,
[11:19] Speaker 1: I learned you know, I was coaching on the Madge
[11:23] Speaker 1: in the juniors and taught me a great little about
[11:25] Speaker 1: vertical alignment and defense first sort of focus or mentality,
[11:29] Speaker 1: and initially I probably didn't understand it, but my second
[11:32] Speaker 1: year of coaching, I.
[11:33] Speaker 2: Really did vertical alignment. I mean everything is just tapped into.
[11:38] Speaker 1: Yeah, so top top down. So I was coaching the
[11:40] Speaker 1: sixteens and basically everything was streamlined, so what the calls were,
[11:44] Speaker 1: defense systems, everything was basically he wanted it from top
[11:48] Speaker 1: top to the bottom. And you need to have that
[11:50] Speaker 1: because if his sixteen's going to eighteen's, he then needs
[11:52] Speaker 1: to understand the calls and systems and.
[11:55] Speaker 4: Eighteen and twenty sounds sounds like simple when you say it,
[11:58] Speaker 4: but the amount of clubs that aren't don't do that,
[12:01] Speaker 4: it's insane because there's obviously different coaches at sixteens, eighteens,
[12:04] Speaker 4: twenties all the way to Reserve, God and NURL. Sometimes
[12:07] Speaker 4: there are clubs where sixteens has different calls for this
[12:10] Speaker 4: or different mentalities and defense eighteen is clearly different, like
[12:14] Speaker 4: literally every grade is different. So to make it an
[12:17] Speaker 4: easy transition for kids to go between each grade, particularly
[12:20] Speaker 4: people going from Reserve go to NRL, it's got to
[12:23] Speaker 4: be aul streamlined.
[12:24] Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, So one team might sixteens might be sliding,
[12:27] Speaker 1: for example, when you're passive, and then if you go
[12:29] Speaker 1: the eight ens and they're jamming or takes that sixteen
[12:31] Speaker 1: year old kid to go to that next level like
[12:33] Speaker 1: another whole year to work out how to jam or
[12:36] Speaker 1: protect inside sholder as they say. So I think that
[12:38] Speaker 1: was the first thing, so you know when we're over there.
[12:41] Speaker 1: When I went over the initially it was about being
[12:44] Speaker 1: a team that when they turned up the Craven Park
[12:46] Speaker 1: similar to you guys at Knights, mate, you knew you
[12:47] Speaker 1: go you'd go to Newcastle. It was an awful afternoon.
[12:50] Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you have to play your very
[12:52] Speaker 1: best to be in them. But on the flip side,
[12:54] Speaker 1: when you guys would go down the Sydney, you're still
[12:56] Speaker 1: the same sort of team. So I wanted us to
[12:59] Speaker 1: be that, you know, that team where it didn't matter
[13:01] Speaker 1: where we played, that we had a mentality work hard
[13:04] Speaker 1: for each other and defend and it put us in
[13:07] Speaker 1: a strong position. But difficult to say. I think probably
[13:11] Speaker 1: at the end of the first year. You know, we
[13:12] Speaker 1: had a lot of guys in that first year that
[13:15] Speaker 1: really good blokes, but we didn't have enough can't use
[13:23] Speaker 1: so yeah, we just didn't have that mongrel mate, so
[13:25] Speaker 1: we had to go get some some players and Tyro
[13:28] Speaker 1: maybe he came in. Yeah, he's been awesome mate. You know,
[13:33] Speaker 1: he's a different character in terms of his personality, but
[13:36] Speaker 1: I love him. I love it what he brings to
[13:38] Speaker 1: the team and uh and what he what he brings
[13:40] Speaker 1: others around him. But we bought those two in and
[13:42] Speaker 1: as I said, a couple of years later we bought
[13:45] Speaker 1: Jared and Mickey two proper mongols, which which added to
[13:49] Speaker 1: which I wanted to do.
[13:50] Speaker 2: Micky, Micky has been good for your mate. Yeah, what
[13:53] Speaker 2: do you think will he is?
[13:55] Speaker 1: He?
[13:55] Speaker 2: I reckon behind the scenes, he's probably getting tapped from
[13:58] Speaker 2: mena real clubs he was.
[14:01] Speaker 1: He just signed a new deal now, so yeah, he's
[14:03] Speaker 1: got he's got a baby, so yeah, so pretty much
[14:07] Speaker 1: when he made the decision that he wants to stay here,
[14:09] Speaker 1: he couldn't live away from his little boy. So there's
[14:12] Speaker 1: a lot of gravies only twenty four. Yeah, you know,
[14:15] Speaker 1: he's a runner, he's you know, he probably didn't play
[14:18] Speaker 1: the levels that he wanted to in the Ashes, certainly
[14:21] Speaker 1: played role in the Grand finally got me in the
[14:22] Speaker 1: match in that Grand Final, and I thought he went
[14:25] Speaker 1: pretty well the other night. So you know, it's just
[14:28] Speaker 1: about doing it now. Every week that you would you
[14:31] Speaker 1: ever coach England, I'd have the conversations. Yeah, I love
[14:37] Speaker 1: being a head coach. I was in Australia and Kangaroos.
[14:40] Speaker 1: I was assistant there. I absolutely loved it and I
[14:42] Speaker 1: learnt so much. And obviously I'm from Australia, but I
[14:46] Speaker 1: do love head coaching. I think, you know I can help.
[14:49] Speaker 1: I'm proud to involved in the Super League and passionate
[14:51] Speaker 1: about helping the game over there, and I feel like
[14:53] Speaker 1: I add something.
[14:55] Speaker 3: We got strong ties to England. Everyone played over there.
[14:58] Speaker 3: Like now you're obviously coaching over that.
[14:59] Speaker 4: Would you enjoy doing that sort of short stint style
[15:02] Speaker 4: coaching of representative?
[15:04] Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's a walk up at the end of
[15:05] Speaker 1: the year, so we haven't haven't spoken to it and yet,
[15:08] Speaker 1: but i'd certainly, as I said, have conversations to see
[15:11] Speaker 1: see where it went.
[15:12] Speaker 3: How'd you like the Aussie tour?
[15:14] Speaker 1: Loved just to see the spine. The way the spine
[15:18] Speaker 1: connected was absolutely unbelievable. But for me it was Dylan Edwoods,
[15:22] Speaker 1: Mitch Moses, it was Brayley and young Ethan strange from
[15:27] Speaker 1: from Camberra. Those guys didn't play and they the way
[15:30] Speaker 1: they prepared and help those others, it was just unbelievable
[15:33] Speaker 1: to see. As a coach, you don't have to do
[15:35] Speaker 1: something too much coaching. When you're involved with the best,
[15:38] Speaker 1: you know, it's not like boys go to your extras
[15:40] Speaker 1: or they went and did their their edge things, and
[15:42] Speaker 1: middles went and did their middles and then off the
[15:44] Speaker 1: back of that, the spine connected and they're all talking
[15:47] Speaker 1: around how they're going to attack that week. And as
[15:50] Speaker 1: I said, it was a lot of it was driven
[15:51] Speaker 1: by guys that weren't playing what clearing like tactically and
[15:56] Speaker 1: when he's training and stuff like, how'd you find him? Mate? Unbelievables,
[15:59] Speaker 1: no flute that he's you know who he is. He's
[16:02] Speaker 1: literally hear about it all the time on the first
[16:04] Speaker 1: in the field, the last off, but he's the first
[16:06] Speaker 1: and the last and everything. So we're on the bus
[16:09] Speaker 1: and it might have been just a recovery, he's last
[16:11] Speaker 1: in the recovery or you know where it's prober had beforehand,
[16:14] Speaker 1: he's last to leave that room. He's just, Yeah, he's unbelievable.
[16:19] Speaker 1: And just I really really liked the Penri boys. They've
[16:24] Speaker 1: won full premierships. The most humble blokes that are going
[16:27] Speaker 1: to meet and you wouldn't know that they've won all
[16:29] Speaker 1: those premierships are just you.
[16:30] Speaker 3: Know, terrific.
[16:33] Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, great for the great leader. I really liked
[16:36] Speaker 1: how we after training, so you get around at us
[16:39] Speaker 1: sort of individuals, around what they thought of the session,
[16:41] Speaker 1: then how we can be better, and that's true leadership.
[16:44] Speaker 1: He'd finished, he'd finished with what he thought. But yeah,
[16:47] Speaker 1: all terrific blokes, you know, the Goes boys. I've got
[16:50] Speaker 1: some swagger about it, like containy stags and yeah, but
[16:52] Speaker 1: he's they're all characters Like josh Ad Carr was unbelievable.
[16:57] Speaker 1: We had like one and a half hour bus trips
[16:59] Speaker 1: and they just did hear him the whole time and
[17:02] Speaker 1: oh wow, doesn't play with him.
[17:08] Speaker 3: And I'll tell you there's a few blokes in that scouat.
[17:10] Speaker 3: I didn't have an ostrich monster as well. Did you
[17:14] Speaker 3: have any one of ones with him?
[17:16] Speaker 4: Oh?
[17:16] Speaker 1: Mate? When I talk about erratic, yeah, I thought I
[17:19] Speaker 1: had a little bit of something about another one made
[17:25] Speaker 1: I love him.
[17:27] Speaker 2: I was talking imagine about Ryce Walsh and he was
[17:29] Speaker 2: saying when he first got there, it was like, yeah,
[17:31] Speaker 2: it's very you.
[17:33] Speaker 1: You couldn't find two blokes for polar opposites.
[17:36] Speaker 2: And he was saying he found it like almost not unnerving,
[17:40] Speaker 2: but just so odd, like the recee main of it,
[17:43] Speaker 2: and then he said halfway through the year he so
[17:44] Speaker 2: I just learned to embrace it, he said.
[17:46] Speaker 3: They went on, they played the.
[17:47] Speaker 2: Knights, and they went into camp in Newcastle and they
[17:50] Speaker 2: went around the country, so Newcastle, Cessnok and Maitland, he said, Maitland.
[17:54] Speaker 1: The whole stadium was packed and it was.
[17:57] Speaker 2: Like mainly two natche girls, you know, like, yeah, Rich Welsh,
[18:00] Speaker 2: how'd you find it?
[18:01] Speaker 1: Like how'd you find that? How'd you find him? So
[18:04] Speaker 1: Nith was the last one in and out of all
[18:06] Speaker 1: the sessions and stuff like that, but it was the
[18:08] Speaker 1: last one to leave any autograph signing. After one of
[18:11] Speaker 1: the games, we went out of beer and we're together,
[18:13] Speaker 1: and so we're upstairs and everyone's downstairs and they're all
[18:17] Speaker 1: obviously wanting him. He's asking him to throw the phone
[18:20] Speaker 1: up and have photos like that's you know, for me,
[18:22] Speaker 1: that was pretty cool, Like just to see a guy
[18:25] Speaker 1: that he could have easy turned his back and away
[18:27] Speaker 1: from everyone else, but he wanted to. He knew he
[18:30] Speaker 1: had a responsibility there to because I'm there to see
[18:33] Speaker 1: him talk thing. So I thought that was pretty cool.
[18:35] Speaker 2: There was this book written by an English fellow and
[18:38] Speaker 2: it's called eighty two eighty six, the two tours that
[18:42] Speaker 2: changed rugby forever, and it's any means by.
[18:45] Speaker 1: That rugby and rugby league, and it.
[18:47] Speaker 2: Was on eighty six of course, the Invincibles and the Unbeatables,
[18:52] Speaker 2: those Kangaroo tours, and reading the one about eighty two,
[18:55] Speaker 2: it says that wherever they went it was like sports
[18:57] Speaker 2: version of Beatlemania, like the Kangaroo How this was the
[19:01] Speaker 2: first Ashes series for such a long time. How was
[19:03] Speaker 2: it over there? How the boys received.
[19:05] Speaker 1: Yeah, outstanding they So England probably got a knock because
[19:10] Speaker 1: they sort of isolated themselves a little bit. That was
[19:12] Speaker 1: probably something I heard through media and where the Australian
[19:16] Speaker 1: guys were the opposite, Like there was a lot of visits.
[19:20] Speaker 1: There's a lot of community visit, school visits, as I said,
[19:23] Speaker 1: like there was opening imitations for training and one way
[19:26] Speaker 1: we go to a pub where it wasn't but they
[19:29] Speaker 1: still had a responsibility or felt that of responsibility to
[19:31] Speaker 1: be able to give back to them, So they loved that.
[19:35] Speaker 1: I think by the end of the tour, you know,
[19:38] Speaker 1: the Aussie boys probably, yeah, the English guys fans were
[19:45] Speaker 1: sort of supporting the Aus year purely because of what
[19:48] Speaker 1: what they gave back.
[19:50] Speaker 4: Having been in camp with some of those boys, don't
[19:53] Speaker 4: name names or anything, but where any of the boys
[19:55] Speaker 4: sort of quizzing on sort of super League and potentially
[19:59] Speaker 4: about going over a little bit.
[20:02] Speaker 1: It was, Yeah, the thing I really loved about him. Yeah,
[20:05] Speaker 1: they they wanted to know, like obviously here they're playing
[20:08] Speaker 1: against and all that sort of stuff. Yeah, curious about
[20:11] Speaker 1: the game over here or you know in England itself. Yeah,
[20:16] Speaker 1: no one sort of said I've got plans to come
[20:18] Speaker 1: over or whatever, like, but it was more interested. And
[20:20] Speaker 1: that's what I love. I'm a footyessed about it and
[20:24] Speaker 1: to be part of you know, guys that are obsessed
[20:27] Speaker 1: as well as to say guys like Nathan Money, you know, yeah,
[20:31] Speaker 1: soon he's on the field or he's in a video
[20:33] Speaker 1: session or you're talking footy like you know, it's.
[20:37] Speaker 3: He's one of the great, like people see him as
[20:39] Speaker 3: like American and that.
[20:40] Speaker 4: But like even we were in Adelaide, I live golf
[20:43] Speaker 4: together last week and even after a few beers, like
[20:46] Speaker 4: as soon as you get everyone kind of ventures into
[20:48] Speaker 4: what they want to dn M about.
[20:50] Speaker 3: Yeah, Monster DNM is about footy.
[20:51] Speaker 4: All just talks about shape talk like he's he doesn't
[20:55] Speaker 4: give off, but he's one of the great rugby league thinkers.
[20:57] Speaker 3: He's always thinking about.
[20:59] Speaker 2: And the first night we got weam plenty of rock
[21:01] Speaker 2: into us. And I got up the next day and
[21:03] Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I was like probably a little
[21:05] Speaker 2: bit like I'm like like now in middle aged and
[21:08] Speaker 2: Vegas don't really go together. But anyway, uh, he got up.
[21:12] Speaker 2: He got up in the morning like only a couple
[21:14] Speaker 2: of ours sleep got up about you know, five six went.
[21:16] Speaker 1: For five k round in a five k bike ride.
[21:19] Speaker 1: Like It's just that's why I love being with them.
[21:22] Speaker 1: Their elite. You know that when it was time to
[21:23] Speaker 1: had fun, they had fun. You know, they enjoyed themselves.
[21:25] Speaker 1: But when it was time to work, they worked. And
[21:28] Speaker 1: Greece Wats was very similar. He I didn't realize how
[21:30] Speaker 1: much he loves the game, wants to be better. He
[21:33] Speaker 1: asked a lot of questions and yeah, it was as
[21:36] Speaker 1: I said, like, it was so cool. Coop said before
[21:38] Speaker 1: that you've had a real link with England.
[21:40] Speaker 2: And for people who don't know, like Willie, when you
[21:42] Speaker 2: were coming through the grades, how everyone was talking at
[21:44] Speaker 2: this young guy coming through and then out of nowhere,
[21:47] Speaker 2: you went to England, but simply went Gateshead, who at
[21:50] Speaker 2: the time the new franchise at Shane Richard and set
[21:52] Speaker 2: up Why would why do you.
[21:53] Speaker 1: Go first of the said Bryan for his first tries
[21:56] Speaker 1: and that was it. He actually caught it. Yeah, well
[22:03] Speaker 1: wait to be honest. So so what happened the first
[22:05] Speaker 1: year that I went in and played, played one or
[22:08] Speaker 1: two games, and you know I was I was linked
[22:11] Speaker 1: to the next Peter Stirling and that was back page
[22:13] Speaker 1: or front page of the paper and put a lot
[22:17] Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on me a young age, only
[22:19] Speaker 1: eight at the time, and yeah, I was never never
[22:22] Speaker 1: going to be the next Stirlough wall you know it was.
[22:24] Speaker 1: It was obviously a big statement at the time, but
[22:26] Speaker 1: it was from my coach, you know, and someone that
[22:29] Speaker 1: cared and loved loved me, and which was Craig Common.
[22:31] Speaker 1: And I'm thankful to Teger for for everything he's done
[22:35] Speaker 1: for me. So this is not around him, It's more
[22:37] Speaker 1: just around the I suppose that the pressure that goes
[22:40] Speaker 1: with playing first grade in the NFL. So I that
[22:43] Speaker 1: first year and then it was a mad Monday I
[22:47] Speaker 1: was with We had a mad Monday from Ruber and
[22:51] Speaker 1: enough so I jumped on the train I was with anyway,
[22:54] Speaker 1: yeah Newcastle all plays actually did yeah, And so I
[22:59] Speaker 1: went for a walk. It was my girlfriend at the time,
[23:02] Speaker 1: and because I got a phone call about going to
[23:05] Speaker 1: going to Kate Sead anyway, so we just went for
[23:07] Speaker 1: a walk and then she she said, yeah, I'm happy,
[23:11] Speaker 1: let's do it. So it was like too young sort
[23:13] Speaker 1: of kids, just let's uh, let's go and see where
[23:17] Speaker 1: the world world's about. So anyway, I went over there
[23:19] Speaker 1: and it was pretty much to get away from the
[23:22] Speaker 1: pressures of over the NRL. So I'll get over there,
[23:25] Speaker 1: get off the plane, jet legs, anything, and I'll get
[23:28] Speaker 1: there and there's there's the media there and I say, okay,
[23:30] Speaker 1: will you So you're the next pair of Stell get
[23:33] Speaker 1: me back over here, get away from it. So anyway,
[23:38] Speaker 1: that chased me and then to be able to tell
[23:40] Speaker 1: you the story, I was actually trying to get back.
[23:44] Speaker 1: And so we're putting these highlights video together. Brian help
[23:51] Speaker 1: me with me. So we went to have the volume up.
[23:54] Speaker 1: So I thought, we'll turn the volume up, and the
[23:56] Speaker 1: Blake said, oh, next pair of Stelli. Not nothing like.
[24:04] Speaker 3: Landlord.
[24:05] Speaker 1: We we lived together for a while.
[24:08] Speaker 3: Because he had a question, but he wanted to said,
[24:12] Speaker 3: can you ask Willie Wayne. He used to send me
[24:14] Speaker 3: to bed early.
[24:16] Speaker 1: I wanted to study foot he hated rugby legs. I
[24:19] Speaker 1: was just up studying footy.
[24:27] Speaker 3: This morning. It was living with Carney.
[24:31] Speaker 1: It was very funny as you can imagine because at
[24:35] Speaker 1: the time he wasn't playing at the start, so he
[24:38] Speaker 1: was out all the time. So he uh, usually hear
[24:40] Speaker 1: his stories and lovely stories and and then maybe he's
[24:44] Speaker 1: his journey like he ended up playing and as you know,
[24:46] Speaker 1: like he's his story is unbelievab from Gayley Football. Now
[24:49] Speaker 1: we got picked up to playing with you guys, Delli
[24:52] Speaker 1: and when you're the incredible incredible Yeah.
[24:56] Speaker 2: Gates now that club folded and people Gates head. It
[25:00] Speaker 2: sits near Newcastle ponm Tyane up there. Did you go
[25:04] Speaker 2: to Wigan after that draft or did you have a
[25:05] Speaker 2: stitch somewhere?
[25:06] Speaker 1: Yeah, So Shane Richardson, who was our owner, they ended up.
[25:11] Speaker 1: It was a Friday afternoon got us in so we
[25:15] Speaker 1: just got back for pre season. He basically said to everyone,
[25:18] Speaker 1: you said, we're packing up, We're going a hole. And
[25:19] Speaker 1: then on the Saturday I got a call from Wigan
[25:22] Speaker 1: and then said we're going to We're going to and
[25:24] Speaker 1: so I said, so you can go to Hoold Look,
[25:28] Speaker 1: I love Gateshead. Played with a lot of Australian players there.
[25:31] Speaker 1: Kerara Wallers was there, Danny Lee, some some old guys.
[25:35] Speaker 1: Obviously you're good players that we had a good team,
[25:39] Speaker 1: but Wigan, Wigan was It was incredible. It was incredible
[25:43] Speaker 1: because I played with probably the best leader that I
[25:46] Speaker 1: played with or seenen was Andy Farrell and you know, mate,
[25:50] Speaker 1: like takes a while to earn his respect. And I
[25:54] Speaker 1: lived on the bar the farm where the farm was
[25:56] Speaker 1: so well there's me. Nie Farrell moved in, which I
[25:59] Speaker 1: was app you about, and then Chris Radlinsky, Gary Conley,
[26:02] Speaker 1: Tony Mestrov and I was like the young little kid,
[26:05] Speaker 1: so my man foot head, so we knocking on Feather's door.
[26:08] Speaker 1: It's going to come in. Ins got this not like
[26:10] Speaker 1: little son. I was sitting in the lounge.
[26:12] Speaker 4: Questions Listeny he's is he Wigan CEO?
[26:18] Speaker 3: Now?
[26:19] Speaker 1: Yeah?
[26:19] Speaker 3: Yeah yeah? And of course mas he mainly yeah as well.
[26:23] Speaker 1: He was Greyhounds hockey. Amazing.
[26:27] Speaker 2: He got some starts to be after your job next?
[26:30] Speaker 1: What like your next job?
[26:32] Speaker 2: Will you and you know with that head because you're
[26:34] Speaker 2: looking to go back to back with the whole KR.
[26:36] Speaker 2: But you'll you're being spoken about now was the bloke
[26:40] Speaker 2: that's most likely to get its housekeeping?
[26:46] Speaker 1: Brian?
[26:46] Speaker 3: Keep the MIC's rolling. Just hello, oh sorry fresh style. No,
[26:55] Speaker 3: we're all good fresh towels. He's some more ground. He's
[27:00] Speaker 3: looking at me. It looks like past.
[27:07] Speaker 2: It's so will Yeah, you're being spoken about now. Is
[27:15] Speaker 2: the next play like the next job that comes up.
[27:18] Speaker 2: You're at the top of the list. It's probably working out.
[27:21] Speaker 2: Sometimes it's the jobs you don't take in it.
[27:24] Speaker 1: Yeah, n RL comped coach is hard, hard to get.
[27:28] Speaker 1: So look, I'd love to do it in some stage,
[27:31] Speaker 1: no doubt. But I love what I'm doing now. You know,
[27:33] Speaker 1: I always wanted to win a camp with KR, but
[27:37] Speaker 1: I had to win a camp, you know, we had
[27:39] Speaker 1: to win a camp. But as a coach for me
[27:41] Speaker 1: personally to go back to the NRL to be taken serious,
[27:44] Speaker 1: you know, that was what I knew I had to do,
[27:47] Speaker 1: so me coming over to the Super League. Yes, I
[27:51] Speaker 1: wanted to obviously try and coach in an RL, but
[27:52] Speaker 1: it was it was just a coach because I love coaching. Yeah,
[27:56] Speaker 1: and then you know, obviously winning the Grand Finals helped
[27:59] Speaker 1: them probably get a little bit of just around.
[28:03] Speaker 4: You're supposed you spoke about like winning a come to
[28:06] Speaker 4: get that sort of respect and I suppose eyeballs.
[28:09] Speaker 3: On you for it.
[28:10] Speaker 4: But last week beating the Broncos and that World Club Challenge,
[28:13] Speaker 4: that that must be like, that must be just as
[28:17] Speaker 4: equally huge in getting sort of those eyeballs from the
[28:19] Speaker 4: NRL as well.
[28:20] Speaker 1: Yeah, I think for as a team is probably probably
[28:22] Speaker 1: bigger because you think about the Bronx like and the
[28:25] Speaker 1: type of players, salary cap like the salary episode different.
[28:28] Speaker 1: You know, what is this difference? It's a lot. Yeah,
[28:31] Speaker 1: so we're like only I think it's two and a
[28:32] Speaker 1: half thousand places, but it's probably half well yeah, yeah, yeah,
[28:37] Speaker 1: it's probably half of what the NL is. So look,
[28:39] Speaker 1: I think just how that game went and how we
[28:41] Speaker 1: won it, that was like, speaking of the players, that
[28:43] Speaker 1: was the most special for them. You know, they said
[28:45] Speaker 1: it was bigger than the Grand from the atmosphere fill
[28:47] Speaker 1: you know, electricly grandphon the Sorry, the atmosphere and the
[28:50] Speaker 1: Grand Final was electric, but this was this was different. Yeah,
[28:54] Speaker 1: because there's a lot of whole there's a couple of
[28:56] Speaker 1: whole FC guys playing with us now and it's just
[28:59] Speaker 1: little things around that they got moved on from FC
[29:01] Speaker 1: and they're playing at that stadium, so it just meant
[29:04] Speaker 1: a little bit more.
[29:05] Speaker 2: Well, there's there's a famous book out I think in
[29:07] Speaker 2: terms it on a movie is called When Munster Boat
[29:09] Speaker 2: the All Blacks, When the touring All Blacks side went
[29:11] Speaker 2: and the province team of Munster in Ireland boot them.
[29:15] Speaker 2: I say, okay, I was sat one hundred years time
[29:18] Speaker 2: that if people still going eight, I remember when this
[29:20] Speaker 2: great Bronco sign come to Craven Cottage and we actually
[29:23] Speaker 2: will Hull and we're not to mar and boot them
[29:27] Speaker 2: with the players were they was where any you just
[29:31] Speaker 2: sense any intimidation going into the game.
[29:34] Speaker 1: Will No, I didn't because we didn't want to have
[29:36] Speaker 1: that approach, like we don't usually name our team, so
[29:40] Speaker 1: URL using the name of their team so we don't
[29:42] Speaker 1: have to name our team for like an hour beforehand,
[29:43] Speaker 1: so we're using that name in twenty one. But I
[29:46] Speaker 1: think the approach that we wanted to take was this
[29:47] Speaker 1: is us, you know who we are and agress Yeah, yeah,
[29:50] Speaker 1: we're proud of that. And let's go like there's no
[29:52] Speaker 1: there's no surprises, so they could have been a surprise.
[29:55] Speaker 1: Jess Little was sick during the week, so he possibly
[29:58] Speaker 1: was going to go to the bench, but that he started.
[30:01] Speaker 1: But that was the mindset and the players. You know,
[30:04] Speaker 1: there's a lot of players in that in our team
[30:06] Speaker 1: that either probably didn't have the careers in the NL
[30:09] Speaker 1: that a few regrets, so this was way that they
[30:12] Speaker 1: can you know personally, Yeah, absolutely, There's then there's guys
[30:16] Speaker 1: that have had really good careers that do I still
[30:18] Speaker 1: have what it takes just to play? It's only one
[30:20] Speaker 1: off game, but you know, to prove myself against a
[30:23] Speaker 1: team like the Bronx, And then guys in England. Am
[30:26] Speaker 1: I good enough to go over there? Is it something
[30:28] Speaker 1: I could do down the track or I'm never going
[30:30] Speaker 1: to go there, but can I mix it with the best?
[30:32] Speaker 3: Yeah?
[30:32] Speaker 1: So there was there was so much personal reason. We
[30:35] Speaker 1: spoke around that, like there's so many different reasons personally,
[30:38] Speaker 1: but collectively it was like you say, I think I
[30:41] Speaker 1: can't remember exactly the year it was, but okay, I
[30:44] Speaker 1: beat Queensland, which was unbelow ever knew that until I
[30:47] Speaker 1: arrived at the club. They beat Queensland eighty nine.
[30:51] Speaker 3: I think we're talking about last night eighties.
[30:54] Speaker 1: Yeah, it might have been eighty five or something, but
[30:56] Speaker 1: I just that just blows me away.
[30:59] Speaker 3: Queensland points the Queens beat went through.
[31:02] Speaker 4: I think they beat Wiggan and someone else after and
[31:03] Speaker 4: then they tried to do a rematch with Hull to
[31:05] Speaker 4: get one and.
[31:07] Speaker 3: I think a whole set.
[31:08] Speaker 1: Yeah, we might might do the same against the Broncos.
[31:12] Speaker 1: That's it. I was going to ask you about will He.
[31:16] Speaker 2: Well, I mean we talked about football, right will He
[31:18] Speaker 2: And they say, you know, if you're not totally focused
[31:21] Speaker 2: and you're not on, anyone can beat you. What was
[31:23] Speaker 2: amazing the week before you beat the Broncos you get
[31:26] Speaker 2: beat by York City And I was sitting there at
[31:29] Speaker 2: work and watching it, and when I saw it, really
[31:31] Speaker 2: I thought, will He's obviously rested all the players, but
[31:34] Speaker 2: you didn't just Even't that a lesson where your focus
[31:37] Speaker 2: has split? That must have been we're going to head
[31:38] Speaker 2: of the Bronx.
[31:39] Speaker 1: Because we didn't want to do that, because it was literally,
[31:42] Speaker 1: like I know, cliche and rugby league. It's true, you
[31:44] Speaker 1: can't look too far ahead, and we made sure that
[31:47] Speaker 1: we didn't look too far. It was probably we weren't
[31:49] Speaker 1: asked like, but we got to a twelve point lead.
[31:53] Speaker 1: Mike he lewis at a moment of madness. You know,
[31:56] Speaker 1: he's he's owned that. But collectively we didn't do it normally,
[32:00] Speaker 1: which is we were pulled tighter. Things are tough, we
[32:03] Speaker 1: were pulled tighter, you know, but we sort of pulled apart.
[32:05] Speaker 1: It was just how we got beat. That was the
[32:07] Speaker 1: worst thing for me because native respect, we probably shouldn't
[32:11] Speaker 1: have got people by your because I'm talking about the
[32:13] Speaker 1: salary cap with the Bronx and us. Our salary cap
[32:16] Speaker 1: compared to their salary caps different as well. You know,
[32:18] Speaker 1: a lot of teams in the Super League now are
[32:20] Speaker 1: spending cap where York wouldn't be spinning cap. So what
[32:23] Speaker 1: we did make we took a lot of what they
[32:25] Speaker 1: did against us into the Bronx. Let's not fear them.
[32:28] Speaker 1: We respect them, but let's not fear them. Let's go
[32:31] Speaker 1: after it. Who knows where it takes you.
[32:33] Speaker 4: And you know, in a weird way, it like probably
[32:36] Speaker 4: gave you guys more belief of like if they can
[32:38] Speaker 4: upset us on our day, Like what's to say that
[32:41] Speaker 4: Broncos can turn a little bit complacent and we can
[32:43] Speaker 4: do the same to that.
[32:44] Speaker 1: Yeah, that was our mentality when you were at to
[32:46] Speaker 1: start well and watching the game back Broncos actually started well,
[32:50] Speaker 1: like they had us on the back foot. We got
[32:52] Speaker 1: through that period and then and obviously then we went
[32:55] Speaker 1: you know, back to back with a couple of tries,
[32:57] Speaker 1: a couple of kick tries.
[32:58] Speaker 4: We nervous up in the coaching box because it's sort
[33:00] Speaker 4: of got very tight towards the end of the game Broncrest.
[33:02] Speaker 1: We got on a roll, very nervous when it got
[33:05] Speaker 1: to thirty to twenty. It was like thirteen minutes ago
[33:07] Speaker 1: that the way that they'd come back. Then I was like,
[33:11] Speaker 1: we're going to have to really really fight. And then
[33:13] Speaker 1: they've always did like they did well to hang on
[33:15] Speaker 1: because they just threw everything at us, everything at us,
[33:18] Speaker 1: and they did well to hang on.
[33:20] Speaker 3: Well, you've been a player and you've been a coach.
[33:22] Speaker 4: What's more Like you spoke about the pressure of being
[33:25] Speaker 4: called the next Peter Sterling, is it harder the pressure
[33:28] Speaker 4: of being a coach, like when you're up in that
[33:30] Speaker 4: coaching box on game day compared to being a player.
[33:32] Speaker 1: Look, coach is not about you the coach is about
[33:34] Speaker 1: the team, and I love Growing up, I've always like,
[33:38] Speaker 1: I love helping people. That's been while I got into coaching.
[33:40] Speaker 1: You know, that's probably the main reason why I got
[33:43] Speaker 1: into coaching, because I genuinely like helping a mate I he
[33:45] Speaker 1: was in trouble. I helped, you know, well, anyone that
[33:47] Speaker 1: asked me for something growing up, I'd always make sure
[33:49] Speaker 1: that I get done for them. So you sort of
[33:52] Speaker 1: us that in the coaching. You know, for me, coach
[33:54] Speaker 1: is not about you. It's about getting a team prepared,
[33:57] Speaker 1: getting as tight as possible, working hard for each other.
[34:00] Speaker 1: Pretty much is over to them. Like if these guys
[34:02] Speaker 1: don't want to go play, we don't win. For they've
[34:07] Speaker 1: won the four you know they're wonderful, but you've got
[34:10] Speaker 1: to own it as a coach when you don't win,
[34:11] Speaker 1: because you look at your prep, what you did wrong
[34:13] Speaker 1: and all that sort of stuff. So I'm you know,
[34:17] Speaker 1: I always wanted to get into coaching, but I was
[34:20] Speaker 1: I had to make sure that I was ready, and
[34:21] Speaker 1: you know, people saw about you're ready. You know, you've
[34:24] Speaker 1: got to love it and be obsessed about it, which
[34:27] Speaker 1: which I am. But at the end of the day,
[34:29] Speaker 1: I think it's it's more about the players. They're the
[34:31] Speaker 1: ones that do it. You know, ess usually do it.
[34:33] Speaker 1: So I find coaching easy. I've learned a lot. I
[34:36] Speaker 1: mean naturally, when you're a young kid, I probably wasn't
[34:38] Speaker 1: ready for that spotlight and you know you're young, you
[34:41] Speaker 1: carry on your drink and or whatever, and so now like,
[34:44] Speaker 1: I know what works for me, what makes me feel
[34:45] Speaker 1: good in my life, and I pretty much stick to that.
[34:47] Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking to Brian. When we did the podcast
[34:51] Speaker 2: here I saw the gibberjabble. We had a couple of
[34:53] Speaker 2: clarity talking about coming to the comp which is going
[34:57] Speaker 2: to be the most amazing, intriguing expansion, not just in
[35:02] Speaker 2: Raguda League that I've seen in sport. Would you coach
[35:05] Speaker 2: P and G if they come knocking a look.
[35:07] Speaker 1: Certainly have the conversation. It's a unique job. And look,
[35:12] Speaker 1: I think I just spoke before around I love bringing
[35:15] Speaker 1: a team together. I love people talking about being a
[35:18] Speaker 1: family environment. I genuinely love that because I think that
[35:20] Speaker 1: that helps win. So there's a lot involved, though the
[35:26] Speaker 1: main one for me is my family. Yeah. Yeah, that's
[35:28] Speaker 1: a big one, massive, you know, so you know, my
[35:32] Speaker 1: kids have got to be on board. My wife's got
[35:34] Speaker 1: to be on board. But you know, we to find
[35:36] Speaker 1: out if there are conversations to be had, you know,
[35:39] Speaker 1: what's their vision? What do they see this franchise we're
[35:41] Speaker 1: doing because rugby league's fun when you win, and it's
[35:47] Speaker 1: what you're doing for you know, So you want to
[35:49] Speaker 1: put together, you know, a roster that you believe well,
[35:52] Speaker 1: you know we you know, P and G believe that
[35:55] Speaker 1: they can win. So look, if there's a conversation to
[35:58] Speaker 1: be had, I will they think, okay, be someone when
[36:00] Speaker 1: to have a chat to? I would, you know, But
[36:04] Speaker 1: there's so many different things to know, we'll get through.
[36:06] Speaker 2: The Other one, too, is just you're all living together.
[36:09] Speaker 2: It's like almost like you're living on top of each other.
[36:11] Speaker 2: It would be like you'd actually have basically no off
[36:16] Speaker 2: switch from coaching, you know what I mean.
[36:17] Speaker 1: There's a problem.
[36:18] Speaker 2: You know, you're going to have situations with families and
[36:20] Speaker 2: stuff and you're almost going to look after all that
[36:22] Speaker 2: as well.
[36:23] Speaker 1: Yeah, so it was in the bubble, the bubble. Yeah,
[36:26] Speaker 1: so I've got a really good sort of idea what
[36:29] Speaker 1: that was like where this is going to be Tom's
[36:32] Speaker 1: five hundred. Because you're living together every day, I've been clearing,
[36:37] Speaker 1: I've been watching Penrith. My wife said me at the time, said,
[36:41] Speaker 1: you guys know when the comp then in the commers,
[36:44] Speaker 1: So why is that? I just can't believe how you know,
[36:46] Speaker 1: connected they are and family and all, that's what he's
[36:49] Speaker 1: going to be needed.
[36:50] Speaker 4: Yeah, to be successful that people talk about having like
[36:53] Speaker 4: a no dickhead policy and bringing good people in the
[36:55] Speaker 4: club from administration all the plain group that PNG that
[37:00] Speaker 4: that has to be their number one priority. You have
[37:03] Speaker 4: one cancerrous person in that organization where people living, it
[37:06] Speaker 4: will just feed.
[37:07] Speaker 1: Through the whole COM's all. It's all people and then
[37:09] Speaker 1: but it's not just the players it is, it's going
[37:12] Speaker 1: to be partners. And how invested the partners are. Yeah,
[37:15] Speaker 1: like you can't have yeah, your clicks and and of
[37:18] Speaker 1: course you're going to have you know, humans, disagreements and whatever.
[37:22] Speaker 1: But it's going to you need to find time as well, downtime.
[37:26] Speaker 1: But your hundred percent right, It's it's all around bringing
[37:29] Speaker 1: in people that truly love that family environment, connection and
[37:33] Speaker 1: they they don't want too much drama in their life
[37:35] Speaker 1: because if you want that.
[37:38] Speaker 2: My dad loves watching actually loves unbelievable those but it's incredible.
[37:45] Speaker 3: He's been applying, trying to go on.
[37:48] Speaker 2: I was shattered the other night because it's on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
[37:50] Speaker 2: I got my days mixed up and I'm sitting there
[37:52] Speaker 2: and said, what's going on. I realized it was a Thursday. Anyway,
[37:57] Speaker 2: it's been fantastic for Vagas Plans.
[38:02] Speaker 1: Behave yourself, get two points and then we'll see what
[38:04] Speaker 1: happens from you boys. Actually stay away from Carnie. You
[38:08] Speaker 1: come in there and stop shooting the corner

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