# #64 | Player Manager: Steve 'Chimes' Gillis

An episode of [Backstage with Cooper & Matty Johns](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1729949087), 24 Aug 2025, 1 h 03 min.

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This week we’re joined by Steve “Chimes” Gillis, one of the the NRL’s most experienced player managers with three decades in the game. From Gus Gould to the Super League war to Super League War 2.0 and contracts that shaped careers, Chimes shares untold stories from behind the scenes. Plus—why he reckons managing Matty Johns would’ve been impossible. Subscribe, Watch, and Follow Catch the full episode on YouTube and stay updated by following us on social media: Linktree: Backstage with Cooper & Matty Contact Us For any enquiries, email us at: contact@johnsmedia.com.au 0:00-Intro 1:30-Chiming In 4:00-Clubland 8:15-Journalism 11:30-Gus Gould Story 15:00-Clinton Schifcofske 18:30-The Bomber 20:00-Field Goals 23:00-Player Management 29:00-Super League War 44:00-Bryan Fletcher 47:00-Players 50:00-Journo Wars 52:00-Super League War 2.0 54:00-Tax Free dollars 56:00-Administrators 1:00:00-PNG See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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