# Origin 1 REACTION! Ponga Send Off, NSW Steal It & Will There be CHANGES?

An episode of [Backstage with Cooper & Matty Johns](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1729949087), 27 May 2026, 34 min.

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The Blues stormed back to win Origin I after Kalyn Ponga was sent off for a shoulder charge, shifting the momentum entirely in NSW's favour. Sam Walker was outstanding, running the show and proving he belongs at this level. Now all eyes turn to Game II! Subscribe, Watch, and Follow Catch the full episode on YouTube and stay updated by following us on social media: Linktree: Backstage with Cooper & Matty Contact Us For any enquiries, email us at: contact@johnsmedia.com.au 0:00-Inital Reaction 10:00-Break Down 17:30-Changes for Game 2? 30:00-Billy’s Wide 4 Tactic 32:00-Our Points See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:02] Speaker 1: Oh it's a bit late. You reckon.
[0:06] Speaker 2: See if a ship, bro, this is what it's all about.
[0:10] Speaker 2: You when you win, what do you do, dude?
[0:14] Speaker 3: Have a sh Yeah, have a drink. Yeah. It's funny
[0:17] Speaker 3: because that trophy you're drinking out of you throw it
[0:20] Speaker 3: off the balcony at half time you can see the
[0:23] Speaker 3: dings and.
[0:23] Speaker 2: I got it super glued. And now it's bark and
[0:26] Speaker 2: this is what we do. The series is ours.
[0:28] Speaker 1: Half times about the twenty minute.
[0:29] Speaker 2: The gold jacket's yours, Nathan.
[0:30] Speaker 3: So the victor the spoils there you look at that.
[0:34] Speaker 3: What a man drinking like?
[0:36] Speaker 2: It's I hope Laurie's doing the same thing in the
[0:39] Speaker 2: sheds right now?
[0:39] Speaker 3: What about laws like the at the end there, he's
[0:42] Speaker 3: just I couldn't have to a better bloke, you know,
[0:46] Speaker 3: I was explaining to Jack's partner Gym. Were sitting up
[0:49] Speaker 3: there and we had a bit of a conversation over
[0:52] Speaker 3: dinner pre pre dinner before origin, as we all we
[0:57] Speaker 3: do sitting around. We have the chicken, the rest tato,
[1:00] Speaker 3: sweet potato broccolini with some corn.
[1:03] Speaker 2: That was good dinner.
[1:04] Speaker 1: It was let's get to the game.
[1:05] Speaker 3: And Jem said to me, Jem said to me, Oh, so, Matte,
[1:09] Speaker 3: did you ever play State of Origin?
[1:12] Speaker 2: I could tell that hurt you. I could actually tell
[1:14] Speaker 2: that hurt you.
[1:15] Speaker 3: No, that didn't hurt me. What hurt me was Trish Gunner.
[1:18] Speaker 2: She laughed and pointed in.
[1:21] Speaker 3: She was she was drinks and but then I was
[1:23] Speaker 3: pointing out different things and I said to her about
[1:26] Speaker 3: Lorry Daily, and I said, to see that bloke, he's
[1:28] Speaker 3: a new South Wild coach. He is the best bloke.
[1:30] Speaker 3: So he is the best. You don't meet better guys
[1:33] Speaker 3: than Lord Happy.
[1:34] Speaker 1: Jim's got a really good eye for it. She said, Oh,
[1:36] Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know about that.
[1:37] Speaker 2: And the good thing is that we've won, like with
[1:40] Speaker 2: the series is ours now we definically won. And what
[1:43] Speaker 2: I want to also plug before we get into the game, Matthew,
[1:46] Speaker 2: Mate v Mate, hats in Maron and in Blue. They're
[1:49] Speaker 2: going live when this is out. They're going live tonight Thursday,
[1:52] Speaker 2: six pm, Jackson, six pm Thursday. Get them, get them
[1:55] Speaker 2: while they're hirt in time for State of Origin two dog.
[1:58] Speaker 2: Because this is I can already tell that was the
[2:00] Speaker 2: greatest Game of Origin I've seen in my lifetime. And
[2:01] Speaker 2: it's only going to get better. Also, just for our
[2:05] Speaker 2: podcast listeners, make sure to leave us one of those
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[2:16] Speaker 2: origin our goal this year, thirty thousand. Get us up there.
[2:18] Speaker 2: I want to buy the end of the origin period.
[2:20] Speaker 2: But Matthew John's, I mean, what a roller coaster of
[2:24] Speaker 2: the game. Let's get straight into it. How did you
[2:26] Speaker 2: see it?
[2:26] Speaker 3: What was my first statement in the first couple of minutes.
[2:30] Speaker 2: Do you remember you said it's physical and the refs
[2:34] Speaker 2: are just letting this go.
[2:35] Speaker 3: I did, but I also said errors and penalties dictate
[2:38] Speaker 3: dominance and state of origin football. And if you look
[2:40] Speaker 3: at early like New South Wales performance, I'll just say this,
[2:43] Speaker 3: generally New South Wales performance was just riddled with errors,
[2:48] Speaker 3: most of which unforced. But all those erarors I've forgotten
[2:53] Speaker 3: just rendered pointless by the ultimate eraror. And the ultimate
[2:56] Speaker 3: error in the game was Klan's defensive high shot which
[2:59] Speaker 3: left Tolukohla unconscious on the floor. And what that happened
[3:04] Speaker 3: at that point? The score is twenty to six, Queensland's
[3:07] Speaker 3: ways other whiles down man, I'll be honest, Queensland's dominance
[3:13] Speaker 3: up to them twenty to six really flattered us, I'll
[3:16] Speaker 3: be honest with that. But you know what happened when
[3:19] Speaker 3: he was sent off and with the score twenty to six, Kaylon,
[3:22] Speaker 3: we had no choice news but to throw off the
[3:24] Speaker 3: shackles really and the conservative football which they imposed upon
[3:28] Speaker 3: themselves and just go after the result. And boys, it
[3:32] Speaker 3: was more than a numerical advantage. What it was. Queensland
[3:35] Speaker 3: suddenly tread water. You know that they tread water went
[3:38] Speaker 3: back that they went, They went off the offensive. They
[3:41] Speaker 3: started to try to defend their way.
[3:43] Speaker 2: To victory and just hang on and they nearly did.
[3:47] Speaker 3: And we just stole that. We stole the underdog mentality office,
[3:51] Speaker 3: We played aggressive, We went over them and it's the
[3:53] Speaker 3: biggest and we stole the result. It stole the result.
[3:56] Speaker 3: We stole the mentality off and we stole the result.
[3:58] Speaker 3: It's the biggest turnaround in Origin history. I'm not talking
[4:01] Speaker 3: about points. I'm talking about momentum and I'm talking about
[4:04] Speaker 3: attitude and mentality.
[4:06] Speaker 2: I think it nearly is the biggest comeback in State
[4:08] Speaker 2: of Osian history. As well, I believe.
[4:10] Speaker 1: I think it was for the Blues.
[4:11] Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, which is impressive. Spose, I'm going to hang
[4:16] Speaker 2: before we get it, talk about some of the big
[4:18] Speaker 2: moments in the games, individual's performances, potentially what happens next
[4:21] Speaker 2: next out of game two? Can we just have an
[4:24] Speaker 2: opinion because I know a few people have had their
[4:26] Speaker 2: opinion on whether the KP sinbin was a sin bin
[4:29] Speaker 2: or whether it should have been ten send off or
[4:32] Speaker 2: should or whether it should have been ten in the bin.
[4:35] Speaker 2: How did you see it?
[4:36] Speaker 3: I thought it was to send off.
[4:37] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[4:38] Speaker 3: On the way the game is adjudicated, there's certain interpretations
[4:43] Speaker 3: I think. I'm sorry. Club football is different origin football
[4:47] Speaker 3: in the way it's refereed apart from I think foul play.
[4:51] Speaker 3: And we saw Joseph Swally sent off.
[4:56] Speaker 2: Two years ago, first five minutes, first five minutes.
[5:00] Speaker 3: It was probably a more dramatic tackle on Reese Walsh
[5:03] Speaker 3: and it was on Tolu, but in my poks still
[5:07] Speaker 3: a send off. Yeah. It was a shoulder to the head.
[5:10] Speaker 3: And although as I said, although it was refereed differently
[5:12] Speaker 3: or slower rucks less six against foul play, it doesn't
[5:16] Speaker 3: get rule. It doesn't get referred to any different and.
[5:18] Speaker 2: I get there. I could see the Queensland argument. They
[5:20] Speaker 2: were saying, well, most of the it was like it
[5:23] Speaker 2: was a head clash. It was, and you could see
[5:25] Speaker 2: that majority of the contact was on the head. But
[5:27] Speaker 2: the rareity is when you have the shoulder charging action
[5:31] Speaker 2: and there was some contact with the shoulder, although most
[5:33] Speaker 2: of it and probably the knockout part was the head clash.
[5:37] Speaker 2: How it looked didn't look didn't look good for.
[5:40] Speaker 1: Kalem for the fact that even then, like there's any contemplation,
[5:44] Speaker 1: like even just anything that there's like it's controversial in
[5:47] Speaker 1: any way for me, thinks it's more towards a ten
[5:50] Speaker 1: of the bin than a sin bin. For me, I
[5:52] Speaker 1: always thought that in rugby league, a send off, a
[5:55] Speaker 1: complete game send off is there is there is no
[5:58] Speaker 1: doubt that it was foul play, and there was. I
[6:01] Speaker 1: think the fact that there was blood on his ears
[6:03] Speaker 1: probably lent to the fact that I did think there
[6:05] Speaker 1: was some contact with the shoulder, but probably lent to
[6:08] Speaker 1: be justified. I think if it was ten the bin,
[6:11] Speaker 1: everyone would have been pretty happy.
[6:13] Speaker 3: You know.
[6:13] Speaker 2: The only thing, I think, the only thing that made
[6:16] Speaker 2: it the sendoff rather than ten in the bin. Was
[6:19] Speaker 2: the fact he didn't wrap the arm. Yeah, if KP didn't,
[6:21] Speaker 2: if Caylen didn't have that tucked and it was and
[6:24] Speaker 2: to the ref's eye, naked eye, it looks like a
[6:26] Speaker 2: shoulder charge because of that. Even though the shoulder charge
[6:29] Speaker 2: probably had nothing to do with the knockout, it was
[6:31] Speaker 2: more so the head clash and the top of the shoulder.
[6:33] Speaker 2: If he'd wrapped that, I think, even though it would
[6:35] Speaker 2: have still knocked Holler out, I think they go ten
[6:37] Speaker 2: in the bin.
[6:38] Speaker 3: But we all know the rules on high shots. We
[6:40] Speaker 3: all know the rules, and at the end of the day,
[6:43] Speaker 3: it was reckless. It was extremely reckless. And as you
[6:45] Speaker 3: said before, there's rules against shoulder charges. Shoulder charge is penalty. Anyway,
[6:50] Speaker 3: shoulder charge someone like he did in the head and
[6:52] Speaker 3: you render someone unconscious on the floor, you're going to
[6:54] Speaker 3: get set off.
[6:55] Speaker 2: Yeah.
[6:56] Speaker 3: And I know there was a lot of talk between
[6:57] Speaker 3: Joey and camera Smith saying it should be should be
[6:59] Speaker 3: just I disagreed. I thought the moment he hit him
[7:02] Speaker 3: and what happened with Kohler on the ground, I thought
[7:05] Speaker 3: it was send off. And people will saying, oh, you know,
[7:06] Speaker 3: players being injured you know, you shouldn't be punished if
[7:10] Speaker 3: they're injured or not. It should be you know, how
[7:14] Speaker 3: a player, how a team is affected by your foul
[7:16] Speaker 3: play should result on how how referee adjudicates to what
[7:20] Speaker 3: you've done. Yeah, and so I just thought I thought
[7:23] Speaker 3: it was the same.
[7:23] Speaker 2: I mean, it's good. It was good for the Blues.
[7:26] Speaker 2: It was good for us obviously, but not just for
[7:28] Speaker 2: the fact of you know, they get twelve, but also
[7:31] Speaker 2: I think their best player, Kaylen Ponger, who had been
[7:34] Speaker 2: their most threatening asset the whole game. Every time I
[7:37] Speaker 2: got the footy. He made our offenders look bad and
[7:40] Speaker 2: he put our edges under pressure. They took their biggest
[7:42] Speaker 2: attacking threat off, which I thought was just a huge
[7:45] Speaker 2: because you could see like the win that got in
[7:47] Speaker 2: the sales straight after that for the Blues. They actually
[7:50] Speaker 2: scored two plays later through recent strange got brought back
[7:53] Speaker 2: from obstruction. But the confidence they got just having someone
[7:57] Speaker 2: with the aura of kaylen pong and what he'd been
[7:58] Speaker 2: doing to a more game off like you could see
[8:01] Speaker 2: the wind in the sails of the new.
[8:02] Speaker 3: We'll talk about in a second our thoughts on how
[8:05] Speaker 3: the game would have panned out if Caaylen wasn't sent
[8:07] Speaker 3: off and I wasn't thirteen versus twelve. But firstly, just
[8:09] Speaker 3: some of the performances Nathan, it was shades of twenty
[8:14] Speaker 3: twenty two Grand Final, almost identical twenty twenty three apologies,
[8:18] Speaker 3: do you know, like excuse you could almost thank you
[8:21] Speaker 3: very much. You could almost feel you could almost sense
[8:25] Speaker 3: the opinions starting to form. Couldn't on Nathan's performance, people saying, ah,
[8:30] Speaker 3: there he is, you know, like doesn't dominate origins, no impact,
[8:33] Speaker 3: non origin player, a great, great club player, an average
[8:36] Speaker 3: Origin half back. Truth is it took him that long
[8:39] Speaker 3: to get in the game simply because his fords just
[8:41] Speaker 3: couldn't get forward. Our yardage was just so lousy for
[8:45] Speaker 3: the first sixty minutes. We look like we look like
[8:48] Speaker 3: old men out there compared to them. If you look
[8:50] Speaker 3: at that try that Tommy Flegglers called, I mean it
[8:54] Speaker 3: was like, honestly, I could have ran through that hole
[8:57] Speaker 3: in the school. I mean your grandfather Garypock, he could
[9:00] Speaker 3: have ran straight through school.
[9:02] Speaker 2: That dry And it was like you said, that first
[9:04] Speaker 2: twenty minutes, I think we had two yard There was
[9:06] Speaker 2: a real armress that was physical. The refs were letting
[9:08] Speaker 2: it go and just be a bit of a basher
[9:10] Speaker 2: and we made two errors out of yardage and then
[9:14] Speaker 2: after fifteen minutes you could physically see the fatigue on
[9:16] Speaker 2: the U Sol's forward pack, like not getting our body
[9:19] Speaker 2: front the play. The balls were so quick, which brought
[9:21] Speaker 2: you know, Kayleb Ponger, Sam Walker, Camera Monster, and particularly
[9:25] Speaker 2: Harry Grant that try that you spoke about Tom Flegler.
[9:27] Speaker 2: Harry Grant gets out on fifth tackle. If you go
[9:30] Speaker 2: back and look at it, Nathan Clear is actually at
[9:32] Speaker 2: a like in the middle of the field and he's
[9:34] Speaker 2: ten meters wide from the ruck because he's expecting someone
[9:37] Speaker 2: else to come. But everyone was so tired they couldn't
[9:39] Speaker 2: get there, and the whole line has to collapse, which
[9:42] Speaker 2: everybody has to come in to try to tighten up.
[9:45] Speaker 2: And the fourth man along couldn't tighten up quick enough,
[9:47] Speaker 2: which was Hamololo Kawatu, which ended up being the hole
[9:50] Speaker 2: that Harry ends up flicking at the Sam Walker and
[9:52] Speaker 2: Tom Flegler just pushes into space. It was it was
[9:56] Speaker 2: a great team and eyes like a really good identification
[10:01] Speaker 2: try from Queensland and Harry to react to that. But
[10:03] Speaker 2: it was a pure fatigued try. You know, if we're fresh,
[10:06] Speaker 2: we're not making errors. And we've been dominating that first
[10:09] Speaker 2: twenty minutes. Like Queensland had to us. We probably react
[10:13] Speaker 2: quicker and we stopped that try.
[10:15] Speaker 3: Jenno Cooper in the first and Jack in that first
[10:18] Speaker 3: probably sixty minutes. I'm sitting there just going, and particularly
[10:20] Speaker 3: in the first half, I'm watching going. And I've said
[10:23] Speaker 3: this before and credit where it's due. I'm watching go, mate.
[10:26] Speaker 3: Slater's a genius selections. How he does his selections. He
[10:31] Speaker 3: picks left of field players because you know they'll do
[10:33] Speaker 3: the job, play like the young and Max Plath and
[10:36] Speaker 3: so on and so forth, taking the chance on sam
[10:40] Speaker 3: joj Feeder. But secondly, tactically, like those two kick tries,
[10:44] Speaker 3: he's worked in the middle field. He's spotted something into
[10:46] Speaker 3: desk out and he's gone on the middle of field.
[10:49] Speaker 3: Harry Grant as you blokes picked up really selling it
[10:52] Speaker 3: one way in the last minute, turning back and throwing
[10:54] Speaker 3: it to Munster and seeing Walker. They go through basically
[10:57] Speaker 3: identical short little kicks in score and that try. Those tries,
[11:00] Speaker 3: those tries are scored, not by chance, those tries. The
[11:04] Speaker 3: genesis of those tries.
[11:06] Speaker 2: Were in identification from Billy's.
[11:10] Speaker 3: Theater room at home when he sits and watch his tape.
[11:13] Speaker 3: That's where they were mate. But the other thing about
[11:15] Speaker 3: Billy too is his his ability to get players to elevate.
[11:21] Speaker 3: At least some of the performers like Maxie Plaith out
[11:23] Speaker 3: there played so good.
[11:24] Speaker 1: He was he was phenomenal and started and started.
[11:28] Speaker 3: Tommy Flegler, I mean, you know, like I thought, that's
[11:30] Speaker 3: since his return from that hors. I thought, big decision,
[11:35] Speaker 3: that's a huge decision. Robert Toyer, kirk kate Well, kirk
[11:40] Speaker 3: Kate Well.
[11:41] Speaker 1: Made kirk k Well for me, was almost the best
[11:43] Speaker 1: forward out.
[11:45] Speaker 3: And lastly, Sam Walker. Sam Walker was magnificent. Sam Walker
[11:49] Speaker 3: was nine out of ten. It's the best I've ever
[11:51] Speaker 3: seen him kick. Actually that he's the best I've ever
[11:53] Speaker 3: seen him play. He building it was it was everyone
[11:56] Speaker 3: was talking about the similarity between him and Alana. That's
[11:59] Speaker 3: exactly it was laying alike impact.
[12:02] Speaker 2: And you spoke about going back to those two tries
[12:04] Speaker 2: to talk about the Queensland scored the two first really
[12:07] Speaker 2: dynamic tries where they went down there and they kicked.
[12:10] Speaker 2: Robert Toy scored on the right and then the hammer
[12:12] Speaker 2: scored on the left. And you talk about Billy, Billy
[12:16] Speaker 2: sitting in team meetings with Billy when he talks about
[12:19] Speaker 2: fullbacks what they do defensively, James Tedesco both times a
[12:23] Speaker 2: lot of fullbacks they come into the line that we
[12:26] Speaker 2: spoke about, they add an extra defender in the defensive line.
[12:29] Speaker 2: Billy seeing that James Tedesco always will come into the
[12:33] Speaker 2: defensive line, but it will come in on the open side,
[12:35] Speaker 2: so the longer side of the field rather than the
[12:37] Speaker 2: short side, and the game plan was for them rather
[12:40] Speaker 2: than when they see that, go straight to the side
[12:43] Speaker 2: the short side and then go to kick. The little
[12:45] Speaker 2: subtlety of Harry Grant which they'd clearly been practicing, showed
[12:49] Speaker 2: to the side and have present shape there that James
[12:52] Speaker 2: Tedesco said on because it forces him rather than fullbacks
[12:55] Speaker 2: want to sort of present on the open side and
[12:58] Speaker 2: then as soon as it goes the other side, be
[12:59] Speaker 2: able to get and be able to cover the kick.
[13:01] Speaker 2: But because Harry shows to that side, it's like a
[13:03] Speaker 2: little dummy on the inside. Because he shows there, it
[13:06] Speaker 2: forces him to have to get up with the actual
[13:08] Speaker 2: whole defensive line and he can't leave for just an
[13:11] Speaker 2: extra half a second. That extra half a second gives
[13:13] Speaker 2: the attacking center rich Robert Toyer when he scored that
[13:17] Speaker 2: first try, just an extra few meters to get to
[13:19] Speaker 2: the ball on the grave a light, such a detail,
[13:21] Speaker 2: and they did it twice, scored two really easy tries.
[13:24] Speaker 3: For good analysis, Jack, Can you got a pen there, buddy?
[13:27] Speaker 1: I don't.
[13:28] Speaker 3: I was just going to steal all of that from
[13:30] Speaker 3: my article, but that's all right to make myself out. Listen,
[13:35] Speaker 3: I'm sitting there, you know, just just quickly on that.
[13:38] Speaker 3: I'll say this and I mean it when you talk
[13:41] Speaker 3: of it.
[13:43] Speaker 2: I've read it in my phone.
[13:44] Speaker 3: Not you give it just a quick realization. We just
[13:48] Speaker 3: journey away for a second. I said something the other
[13:52] Speaker 3: night on the show who you Have on the show
[13:53] Speaker 3: that night and we're talking about Kieran forun coming his coach,
[13:58] Speaker 3: and he just made It's just so you know he's
[14:00] Speaker 3: up to date. He's just retired. And I'm like, you
[14:02] Speaker 3: know what, Jake your spot on because I'm sitting there
[14:04] Speaker 3: watching the game, right and you boys are talking about
[14:06] Speaker 3: four and three and I understand three, and I get
[14:09] Speaker 3: that we were taught three in football.
[14:11] Speaker 2: Just a half yeah, third defenders.
[14:13] Speaker 3: Third in yep for the numerical advantage. But a lot
[14:15] Speaker 3: of the stuff you boys are talking about it's over
[14:17] Speaker 3: my head because you bloss have just come out of
[14:18] Speaker 3: the game. I'm sitting there going okay, and some of
[14:20] Speaker 3: the stuff I don't understand. You have to sort of
[14:22] Speaker 3: dig deeper. It just shows you why younger coaches have
[14:27] Speaker 3: ascended and the older coach is now going, you know,
[14:29] Speaker 3: have gone backwards suddenly. It's because the game is changing
[14:33] Speaker 3: so much.
[14:34] Speaker 2: I will get i will jump in there for one
[14:36] Speaker 2: second and I'll give you a wrap where a lot
[14:38] Speaker 2: of and I've said this publicly before, I'm pretty sure.
[14:40] Speaker 2: If not, then sorry all the people I'm about Sledge
[14:43] Speaker 2: but Tales were a lot of I feel like a
[14:45] Speaker 2: lot of people who played through your generation, particularly pre
[14:49] Speaker 2: Super League, and then they go into coaching, a lot
[14:51] Speaker 2: of boys who might have them in, you know, going
[14:54] Speaker 2: when they go into Rep camp or Queensland camps, on
[14:56] Speaker 2: New so Wales camps, they come out. I remember being
[14:59] Speaker 2: at Storm and people come out being the coach and
[15:01] Speaker 2: they go he's not a very like he doesn't really
[15:03] Speaker 2: understand the game. Now he understands some principles of the game,
[15:06] Speaker 2: and he's able to get you up emotionally because a
[15:09] Speaker 2: lot of the game back then was just how can
[15:11] Speaker 2: you man manage and get people emotionally physically to go
[15:15] Speaker 2: to war basically. But you're you're one that because you
[15:19] Speaker 2: have also gone into coaching in this era, you understand
[15:22] Speaker 2: a lot of the subtleties are when younger people talk
[15:24] Speaker 2: about it now. But there still are a lot of
[15:26] Speaker 2: coaches out there who have played through that era who
[15:29] Speaker 2: still actually don't understand the modern game and when particularly
[15:32] Speaker 2: when they take over like World Cup jobs or rep jobs,
[15:36] Speaker 2: they can't communicate with players in today's.
[15:39] Speaker 1: Modern game, I wouldn't even know. I'd even sometimes not
[15:41] Speaker 1: even tactics, but sometimes like remember there was a situation
[15:45] Speaker 1: where Matthew, your name was thrown around a few years
[15:47] Speaker 1: ago with origin and you and Wayne sort of mentioned
[15:50] Speaker 1: to you maybe if you if you want to go
[15:51] Speaker 1: onto that you should go and coach a team now
[15:54] Speaker 1: coaching young fellas me and Cooper have done a bit
[15:57] Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, I feel like a lot of that
[15:59] Speaker 1: had to do with not necessarily to do with football.
[16:01] Speaker 1: I think it's just in life, like understanding young people
[16:04] Speaker 1: and the difference in what they are these days compared
[16:07] Speaker 1: to your day, even ten years ago, our day.
[16:09] Speaker 3: Like absolutely, I think every.
[16:11] Speaker 1: Generation has their their changes, like their differences. I think
[16:15] Speaker 1: it's like you have to be able to practice that
[16:17] Speaker 1: daily with those young people to understand that.
[16:19] Speaker 3: I come from near where the coach has carried a
[16:21] Speaker 3: really big stick in video sessions in front of your peers,
[16:25] Speaker 3: all that, and just privately that they carry a big
[16:27] Speaker 3: stick and they whack you with You can't do that
[16:29] Speaker 3: these days. But that's secondary you know as well. But
[16:32] Speaker 3: you're right, Jack, it's just you know, mentality and our
[16:35] Speaker 3: ear has changed. I can coach half still, I can
[16:37] Speaker 3: coach playmakers, get that, But the holistic picture, I've always said,
[16:40] Speaker 3: yeah I could. My my ego, I said I could
[16:43] Speaker 3: go on to coaching. I'll watch it with you boys,
[16:45] Speaker 3: and I go, yeah, I don't know. I don't think
[16:48] Speaker 3: I could. I think I well, if I did, I
[16:51] Speaker 3: tear what, I'd need a lot of young coaches around
[16:53] Speaker 3: me because there's stuff that I wasn't exposed to. I'm
[16:57] Speaker 3: sort of I get all my information, generally fromtical knowledge
[17:00] Speaker 3: from when I played. That's what I understand, and if
[17:03] Speaker 3: I haven't played in this era, where you know it's
[17:04] Speaker 3: just rolling seats, agains and different structures in the defense line.
[17:08] Speaker 2: I have no doubt you could do it, and that,
[17:10] Speaker 2: like you said, have younger coaches around you who they
[17:13] Speaker 2: almost it's like shark tank. They're almost pitching their ideas
[17:16] Speaker 2: to you and if it makes and if they can
[17:18] Speaker 2: you know, if you agree, then you just filter that through.
[17:20] Speaker 1: It's also it's also a bit of a it's a
[17:22] Speaker 1: filter too, like if they could explain to you and
[17:24] Speaker 1: it makes sense to you and someone who doesn't understand it,
[17:27] Speaker 1: then it will make sense to the players.
[17:28] Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, boys, A question, really important question going forward
[17:32] Speaker 3: in the series. We've beaten Queensland before in game one
[17:35] Speaker 3: and they've come back beat us in the next two.
[17:40] Speaker 3: I want to ask a question there that I don't
[17:42] Speaker 3: want to misconstrued for listeners. It's un New South Wales, like,
[17:47] Speaker 3: do we beat Queensland if Calen Polmer doesn't get so on?
[17:50] Speaker 2: Absolutely not?
[17:51] Speaker 3: Okay, okay, right, right? Then? Can we afford not to
[17:55] Speaker 3: make changes?
[17:57] Speaker 2: I think do we?
[17:59] Speaker 3: Okay, last, I think I'll last get straight. Do we
[18:01] Speaker 3: make changes?
[18:02] Speaker 2: I think there will be some? Yeah, yeah, I do,
[18:04] Speaker 2: I think so. I think it'll be obvious to Larry,
[18:07] Speaker 2: and I think it'd be obvious to a lot of
[18:09] Speaker 2: the key leaders in that state of origin side that
[18:11] Speaker 2: if Kaylen doesn't go off or we don't win that game.
[18:14] Speaker 3: A lot gets forgiven that first sixty minutes. Like the
[18:18] Speaker 3: twenty twenty three Grand Final with Nathan he struggled for
[18:21] Speaker 3: sixty minutes and all of a sudden, the last twenty
[18:23] Speaker 3: minutes he grabs men of the match like he has
[18:25] Speaker 3: to know exactly the same. You forget the first sixty
[18:28] Speaker 3: minutes because in the first sixty minutes you're playing the
[18:30] Speaker 3: poker machines. In the last twenty minutes you're in the
[18:31] Speaker 3: high rollers room. That's the difference. But I think we
[18:36] Speaker 3: have to look at certain things. I think in that
[18:37] Speaker 3: last twenty minutes, I think some of the players save
[18:40] Speaker 3: their jerseys. Yeah, there's a few there. Stephen Crichton will
[18:44] Speaker 3: most definitely remained and I would have picked him anyway
[18:47] Speaker 3: because I actually would have thought and I'll get to
[18:50] Speaker 3: what I would have done. But his first sixty minutes
[18:55] Speaker 3: was probably as a Blue probably the worst he's played
[18:59] Speaker 3: in a blue jersey. His last twenty minutes magnificent.
[19:02] Speaker 2: And I would also say that, and he'd say the
[19:06] Speaker 2: same thing about his own about Brian too, who's been
[19:08] Speaker 2: one of our most consistent but very un characteristic errors
[19:12] Speaker 2: in that first four that was the worst forty minutes
[19:14] Speaker 2: I've seen. He's a play and he's been our best
[19:16] Speaker 2: yardage man for so long.
[19:17] Speaker 3: Katoni on the right right up. He was tortured by Kaylin.
[19:22] Speaker 3: He tortured him until till till Kaylen was sent off
[19:25] Speaker 3: and he got some respite. However, in the last twenty
[19:27] Speaker 3: minutes with the football he was so dangerous, right But
[19:31] Speaker 3: you know they'll be the you know, I think Laurie
[19:33] Speaker 3: will have a look at Katoni. There Mitch Barnett or
[19:36] Speaker 3: massive fan of Mitch, massive fan. But I just want
[19:39] Speaker 3: you to think about this. We look at this in hindsight.
[19:41] Speaker 3: Just think about this in nine sight. Mitch has come
[19:43] Speaker 3: off in acl injury. When you're doing with ac old,
[19:46] Speaker 3: you're not the same You're not the same player. For
[19:48] Speaker 3: ROLLI a two months and he's still working his way
[19:50] Speaker 3: back and his season so far has been really stop
[19:53] Speaker 3: start stop start, and I thought he got gassed really
[19:56] Speaker 3: really early. So I think I think you'll have a.
[19:58] Speaker 2: Little bit what I would say what I'd count just
[20:00] Speaker 2: with that the Barney thing, I think definitely how we
[20:04] Speaker 2: look at the starting front row needs to change, because
[20:06] Speaker 2: you saw how it worked for Queensland. They had like
[20:08] Speaker 2: smaller bodies but leg speed through the middle, and it
[20:11] Speaker 2: torched our bigger ones of Fanil Blake, Robson and Barnett
[20:15] Speaker 2: through the middle. Like we almost need like to pull
[20:18] Speaker 2: one of those big boys off and put like a
[20:19] Speaker 2: Jackson Ford in there with legs.
[20:21] Speaker 3: But I agree with you. The other one is Teddy.
[20:24] Speaker 3: Teddy finished with an amazing flurry. He reminded me like
[20:28] Speaker 3: a heavyweight boxer who's down on points and all of
[20:30] Speaker 3: a sudden finishes with a flurry and pinches the result
[20:33] Speaker 3: by knockout. I think that Lake flurry saved two weeks
[20:38] Speaker 3: of conjecture of should Dylan Edward's going for Teddy?
[20:42] Speaker 2: Yeah that's a fair statement, yep.
[20:44] Speaker 3: And you know, so we have a look at a
[20:46] Speaker 3: few things here. Jacob didn't get on fil Jacob's side food.
[20:50] Speaker 3: I thought our middle struggled in general. I did. I
[20:53] Speaker 3: thought that struggled. The second stin by Faniel Blake was good,
[20:57] Speaker 3: but when you play your first out of origin boys,
[20:58] Speaker 3: I'll say this first. You need to play one a
[21:01] Speaker 3: lot of times to really feel there are exceptions. Exception
[21:06] Speaker 3: he's an exception and Casey McClain. And but like in
[21:10] Speaker 3: the past, Phil gild used to say, mate, when you
[21:12] Speaker 3: play Origin, I'm telling you we get out there, you
[21:14] Speaker 3: got to be read of for it. You've got to
[21:15] Speaker 3: be talking earlier. The game can disappear. I thought his
[21:19] Speaker 3: second stint was good. I think we bring it to
[21:21] Speaker 3: a young bloodhead. I think Jackson Ford, I think you
[21:23] Speaker 3: should come in. Casey McClain. I don't know for who
[21:28] Speaker 3: or what he's going to make a decision. He he
[21:32] Speaker 3: entered a course stadium tonight as a very good young
[21:36] Speaker 3: player made he's left as a genuine star. He is
[21:40] Speaker 3: a star mate, I tell you what he when you
[21:42] Speaker 3: when you look at dally M points, you've got to
[21:45] Speaker 3: consider him for a point where I don't think we
[21:48] Speaker 3: win and I think I think he's one of the
[21:50] Speaker 3: driving forces while we win the football game.
[21:52] Speaker 2: We talk about the big biggest moment on the field, right,
[21:54] Speaker 2: Calen gets sent off and then we have that obstruction
[21:56] Speaker 2: try which Ethan Strain scored. And then from there me
[22:00] Speaker 2: and you actually said it, we said that I don't
[22:03] Speaker 2: know if Actually I don't think Nisil's after that. I
[22:06] Speaker 2: think that obstruction thing's going to rattle them a little bit.
[22:07] Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to come back. The changing
[22:10] Speaker 2: turning moment they put a huge bomb up. All these
[22:13] Speaker 2: Queensland chases going after him. It looks like, oh, we're
[22:15] Speaker 2: going to make an hour off here for nothing. Casey
[22:17] Speaker 2: mcclan gets up, takes a beautiful catch, goes thirty meters,
[22:21] Speaker 2: gets a quick play the ball. From that play, that
[22:23] Speaker 2: was actually the first play where Nisuhil started to go
[22:25] Speaker 2: let's play footy. Hudson Young gets it, rips it out
[22:28] Speaker 2: to Ethan Strange, he finds Stephen Crichton makes a line
[22:31] Speaker 2: break and that's where he did the little around the
[22:33] Speaker 2: back pass to Ethan Stranger who jumps over Sam Walker
[22:35] Speaker 2: and scores. That moment off the back of that denied
[22:38] Speaker 2: try from Ethan Strange five minutes before. That was the
[22:40] Speaker 2: turning point because from there, off that kickoff, they started
[22:43] Speaker 2: actually going let's play footy. And Joey said it in
[22:46] Speaker 2: the coverage. He said, they need to start like through
[22:48] Speaker 2: the midfield, they need to start shifting the footy and
[22:50] Speaker 2: then when they get down into the try line, attacking
[22:53] Speaker 2: the try line, start to go through them. And that
[22:55] Speaker 2: next set, after that strange dry they went hit the
[22:57] Speaker 2: right edge ca Tony's stags made a big line break
[23:00] Speaker 2: and they just started punching holes in them. And from
[23:01] Speaker 2: there it was just it was like a plumber trying
[23:04] Speaker 2: to fix a pipe. There was just leaks everywhere.
[23:07] Speaker 3: I'm going to write that, don't steal it?
[23:09] Speaker 1: Can I also just let people know too, we're doing
[23:13] Speaker 1: a little bit of a lock in next week, sorry tomorrow.
[23:16] Speaker 1: So Matthew is going to come in and he's going
[23:18] Speaker 1: to check out the computers and he's going to have
[23:22] Speaker 1: a look at the comment section on the YouTube and Spotify.
[23:25] Speaker 1: So I encourage people to leave their comment and leave
[23:28] Speaker 1: it for Matthew and he's going to reply to them.
[23:31] Speaker 1: So Matthew on the computers tomorrow between nine and mid day.
[23:34] Speaker 3: Just be patient.
[23:35] Speaker 2: People on the one finger man you any questions you
[23:39] Speaker 2: have for him, anything on the.
[23:41] Speaker 1: Life questions please Lord Stewart questions, Yes.
[23:45] Speaker 3: Yes, on just last case of me claim purely on
[23:50] Speaker 3: the impact. If you go on pound for pound for
[23:52] Speaker 3: minute forget about minutes, but just while you're on there,
[23:55] Speaker 3: the biggest impact you can have made. He's almost your best.
[23:57] Speaker 2: He was just unbelievable and the blokey I tell you
[23:59] Speaker 2: what the blame he went on for Toller Cohler. I
[24:01] Speaker 2: think he was the best up until that point. Nathan
[24:03] Speaker 2: Cleary was consistent all game like. He didn't have a
[24:06] Speaker 2: lot to play behind that first half, but the second half.
[24:08] Speaker 2: Coming to his own talk about Nathan a little bit
[24:10] Speaker 2: after it, Tollu Cohler had some really good moments.
[24:12] Speaker 3: Ethan Strange. Everything we expected, everything that we thought he
[24:15] Speaker 3: could bring to the contest, he did it. Couldn't get
[24:17] Speaker 3: into the game early again like Nathan because of our yardage,
[24:20] Speaker 3: But boy oh boy, do again. Another player arrives at
[24:23] Speaker 3: the ground, A very good young player leaves the start.
[24:26] Speaker 2: I think he had maybe two runs the first half
[24:28] Speaker 2: looked electric when he did get it, but didn't get
[24:29] Speaker 2: a whole lot of footy what he did in that
[24:31] Speaker 2: first half.
[24:31] Speaker 3: Though.
[24:32] Speaker 2: There was a moment there where Queensland I think it
[24:35] Speaker 2: was twenty mil up and they get a quick playable
[24:38] Speaker 2: Harry Grant got out and Munster went to hit a
[24:40] Speaker 2: whole outside b Strange just come out aggressively forced an error.
[24:45] Speaker 2: In that same set, we get a six again, we
[24:47] Speaker 2: get a penalty, and then that's where Hudson Young scores.
[24:50] Speaker 2: Like if we if we you know what we talk about,
[24:52] Speaker 2: if Kaylen Pongker doesn't we talk about if Kayln pok
[24:55] Speaker 2: doesn't go out, we probably don't win. If we don't
[24:57] Speaker 2: score or try that first half and get some sort
[25:00] Speaker 2: if you go in twenty nil at halftime in a
[25:01] Speaker 2: state of origin like that twenty to six, it just
[25:04] Speaker 2: gave us a little bit of hurt.
[25:05] Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Does he leave? Does he
[25:07] Speaker 1: leave Moses out? If Moses available for going.
[25:09] Speaker 3: To mate, you can't drop Strange.
[25:12] Speaker 2: You have to start.
[25:13] Speaker 3: I'll tear you something Jack. There was a lot of
[25:16] Speaker 3: talk around Laurie picking him anyway before that there was
[25:20] Speaker 3: sort of touch and go for a little bit. What
[25:22] Speaker 3: they what I was told sort of heard Ethan's strange.
[25:25] Speaker 3: Chances is that Raiders didn't play magic ground, Okay, hitting
[25:28] Speaker 3: you that last yeah, that last little burst to March.
[25:32] Speaker 2: I think it's definitely Nathan and Strangers, like they're the
[25:35] Speaker 2: halves combination. You've got to have some sort of consistency
[25:37] Speaker 2: after how those two combined.
[25:38] Speaker 3: Tonight Blake Brailey, Blake Brailey, there's some serious thought there.
[25:43] Speaker 3: I was talking to a very good coach recently about
[25:48] Speaker 3: Origin and when I was talking about who you pick,
[25:50] Speaker 3: I was like, man, I think Ryce Robbins, Robson, he's
[25:53] Speaker 3: been more robust. And this coach said to me, no, no, no, mate,
[25:57] Speaker 3: click you pick Brayley. He said, he's just got an
[25:59] Speaker 3: edge and you and he's ready to go. I still
[26:01] Speaker 3: disagree with him, but mate, he won that argument.
[26:03] Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. And Robson did take a lot
[26:05] Speaker 2: of sting out of that game, so it was a
[26:07] Speaker 2: good little combination. But I think we did need to
[26:09] Speaker 2: find a way to get Brails out there earlier because
[26:11] Speaker 2: his creativity and around the rock, particularly when Nathan Cleary
[26:14] Speaker 2: scored the try right behind the post, because Nathan clear
[26:17] Speaker 2: kicked that forty twenty, that nice forty twenty, and then
[26:21] Speaker 2: in that set they were playing a lot more expansive,
[26:23] Speaker 2: creative footy. I think I believe it was Britain a
[26:27] Speaker 2: Kora did had a try saving tackle on Casey McLain
[26:30] Speaker 2: on the left side. Then on the right side, Cam
[26:32] Speaker 2: Munster stops Catoni's stags they'd gone side to side, made
[26:35] Speaker 2: them work, and then Brayley sees his quick playable and
[26:38] Speaker 2: he just got out and Nathan clear just punched a
[26:40] Speaker 2: hole of him like that directness and creativity. It was
[26:43] Speaker 2: like the Harry Grant tries setting up for Todd Flegler
[26:46] Speaker 2: in the first.
[26:46] Speaker 3: Do you remember what we said, Jackman, We said about Joey,
[26:49] Speaker 3: how you played Origin in a map in his head,
[26:51] Speaker 3: sideline sidelines and then start playing through it. And he
[26:54] Speaker 3: said it on the coverage. Lastly, excuse me, emotional. Let's
[26:58] Speaker 3: get an emotional mate. Lastly, mate, Nathan's late genius saved
[27:03] Speaker 3: us in many ways. But I'll tell what all saved
[27:05] Speaker 3: us our bench. Kem Murray, Victor Radley, Casey McClain world
[27:10] Speaker 3: under Laurie made. There was a lot of there's a
[27:12] Speaker 3: bit of criticist. There was a lot of criticism about
[27:13] Speaker 3: the bench. I tear what he nailed it. He got
[27:16] Speaker 3: them right. Victor brought aggression and he brought aggression to
[27:19] Speaker 3: the table. He went after Queensland when others didn't. Kem
[27:22] Speaker 3: murray brought his spoon and footwork. When he came on
[27:24] Speaker 3: the field, things changed immediately. And as we see call
[27:28] Speaker 3: Casey McLain mate, you're a superstar yea.
[27:30] Speaker 2: And we talk about a lot of New South Wales
[27:33] Speaker 2: now and whether the new so whal was going to
[27:34] Speaker 2: make changes. You spoke about some positions there, some blokes
[27:37] Speaker 2: that we might need to find to get back in there,
[27:39] Speaker 2: and you see Casey mclan needs to be there. Maybe
[27:41] Speaker 2: Jack go Ford as well, find a spot. What did
[27:43] Speaker 2: Queensland do?
[27:44] Speaker 3: Right?
[27:44] Speaker 2: Because Queensland played an unbelievable sixty minutes, right, they're all
[27:47] Speaker 2: over us sixty minutes. Yes they got beat Yes we
[27:51] Speaker 2: probably got lucky in won because Kaylen Ponger got sent off.
[27:54] Speaker 2: I don't think we went outside of that moment. Blokes
[27:57] Speaker 2: that potentially could be coming back in I don't know
[27:59] Speaker 2: if Tommy Yeden's back for game two, but Sam Walker
[28:02] Speaker 2: and Munster and Xavier Coats comes back.
[28:05] Speaker 3: Did less the fourteen?
[28:07] Speaker 1: You know? I actually thought Sam Walker probably bought the
[28:10] Speaker 1: best out in Munster as well. I thought like I
[28:12] Speaker 1: thought he did it, like did heaps of First Receiver.
[28:14] Speaker 3: They're very they're very similar. Like sorry, they're not absolutely
[28:18] Speaker 3: similar players, but they're very similar in their attitudes, watch
[28:20] Speaker 3: and react very instinctive. Didn't you would imagine he'll go
[28:24] Speaker 3: into fourteen big, a really big big thing. As far
[28:28] Speaker 3: as the series concern is Calum Poll and his suspension.
[28:32] Speaker 3: You know how long the suspension is it? You know
[28:35] Speaker 3: if he you know, if a big, big booster in
[28:40] Speaker 3: New South Wales, if he misses games two and you
[28:42] Speaker 3: can be filthy, they would be he hamming to fall back.
[28:46] Speaker 3: You know, the halves remain didn't goes into fourteen.
[28:50] Speaker 2: So it's it's I mean it's tough, right because you
[28:52] Speaker 2: look at it, like when you lose, you might look
[28:55] Speaker 2: who can I sort of change or who was out
[28:57] Speaker 2: of form? But you look at that side they all
[28:59] Speaker 2: played like Queensland played unbelievable sixty minutes, just like that
[29:03] Speaker 2: Broncos Pandeth Grand Final. Yeah, like there's not a whole heap.
[29:05] Speaker 2: They they'd actually get a lot of confidence going to
[29:08] Speaker 2: game two. Ye Like, if I'm if I'm a Queensland
[29:11] Speaker 2: I'm looking at that game and I'm going if we
[29:13] Speaker 2: don't do something silly and someone gets sent off, you
[29:15] Speaker 2: know in that instance, like we're all over them. So
[29:19] Speaker 2: do you make changes? I know they've got a couple
[29:20] Speaker 2: of boys pents to come back and to you in
[29:22] Speaker 2: an X.
[29:22] Speaker 3: But look whatever changes Slater makes, you know he's going
[29:28] Speaker 3: to nail them. This is it, mate, This is like, really,
[29:31] Speaker 3: this series is still so much in the balance. Slater
[29:35] Speaker 3: is so good at recognizing something or vulnerability or recognized
[29:40] Speaker 3: the things in the in their own game and the
[29:42] Speaker 3: ability to change it without fear. So they got us
[29:45] Speaker 3: last year, and mate, that's why I think, you know
[29:48] Speaker 3: the old adage, don't change a winning side telling it.
[29:52] Speaker 3: We're going to look at it. We're going to look
[29:53] Speaker 3: at it. If we don't, Okay, I think we're asking
[29:55] Speaker 3: for trouble.
[29:56] Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if because I know they depending
[29:59] Speaker 2: on how Tollowe is. But if Toler goes to left center,
[30:01] Speaker 2: Casey mclank goes to left wing, with the chance that
[30:05] Speaker 2: Xavier Coats come back for that big aerial threat, and
[30:08] Speaker 2: they might move crighton over to the right potentially, I'm
[30:10] Speaker 2: not sure, but.
[30:11] Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.
[30:11] Speaker 1: I think Billy's found a bit of a loophole with
[30:14] Speaker 1: the new rules going to this year. Now, whether he
[30:16] Speaker 1: expected it to be faster fast rucks like it has
[30:20] Speaker 1: been all a year, but anyway, in that first twenty
[30:22] Speaker 1: they had so much ball that the Blues might as
[30:25] Speaker 1: well have had six agains because they were that gassed.
[30:27] Speaker 1: They did you notice Cobber, they they were hitting points
[30:31] Speaker 1: of the back row was just past the far post,
[30:34] Speaker 1: and then they were attacking the short sides wide fours,
[30:36] Speaker 1: and then they were having big long shapes to drag
[30:38] Speaker 1: Teddy away to the long sides, and that Munster and
[30:42] Speaker 1: Sam Walker both had tries off kicks on wide fours
[30:45] Speaker 1: where the four in defender wasn't the back row, it
[30:48] Speaker 1: was the middles. I think it's a pretty smart attactic
[30:50] Speaker 1: by Billy. I think I reckon a few NRL coaches
[30:53] Speaker 1: might actually look at that as a you know, if
[30:55] Speaker 1: you have a few running halves Newcastle, for example, as
[30:58] Speaker 1: a side, you might want to take that tactic going
[31:00] Speaker 1: into your regular season.
[31:01] Speaker 3: You don't used to frustrate the shit out of me
[31:03] Speaker 3: with Newcastle back in the day, and it was exactly
[31:06] Speaker 3: what we've seen tonight. I remember having a casual conversation
[31:08] Speaker 3: with Calen and see, Kaylen, your favorite play, I said,
[31:11] Speaker 3: correct me if I'm wrong. Your favorite play is sweeping
[31:14] Speaker 3: to the left hand side, threatening that third last offenders
[31:17] Speaker 3: chop inside him or goosey and keep going again. That's it,
[31:20] Speaker 3: I said, brother, Let them bring the ball to you.
[31:23] Speaker 3: That's where you position yourself in the sets, let him
[31:25] Speaker 3: move the wall and you bring let them bring the
[31:28] Speaker 3: ball to you at that threat. That's what Slater did
[31:31] Speaker 3: ninety five percent of his game until he got sent off.
[31:34] Speaker 3: He just sat there and went right up boys. All
[31:36] Speaker 3: the sequences were designed to come back to Cayln in
[31:39] Speaker 3: his favorite spots.
[31:40] Speaker 2: The best part about what Bill how he operates is
[31:44] Speaker 2: he looks at everyone's strengths. He goes like he'll ask
[31:46] Speaker 2: him months, how do you play? Do you like to
[31:48] Speaker 2: receive the puddy footy? And how like when is you
[31:51] Speaker 2: at your best? He might say, when I'm flattening the
[31:53] Speaker 2: advantage line off a quick play the ball and I'm
[31:56] Speaker 2: running and he will put you try to game plan
[31:59] Speaker 2: so put you in that position ninety percent of the time.
[32:02] Speaker 2: That's what they did with Caleb on that first half.
[32:04] Speaker 2: They got him that footy on how he likes it
[32:07] Speaker 2: about four or five instances, and particularly even on some
[32:10] Speaker 2: kick returns, even put himself on that side just so
[32:13] Speaker 2: he could put He put Selwyn Cobbo away in a
[32:15] Speaker 2: little line break at one stage. What we did really
[32:18] Speaker 2: good as New so well as in the second half,
[32:20] Speaker 2: was we actually started playing a little bit like playing
[32:22] Speaker 2: to people's strength, getting to Toni Stags early ball, getting
[32:25] Speaker 2: Critter early ball, getting Ted Escal a bit more footy
[32:28] Speaker 2: out the back on that right side, started to put
[32:30] Speaker 2: people in positions which they're actually they're actually strong in,
[32:34] Speaker 2: trying to get Ethan Strange more running opportunities.
[32:36] Speaker 3: Okay, Cood finally our Dellian points one two three, I'll
[32:41] Speaker 3: go long enough. I'll go one point Ethan Strange, two point.
[32:45] Speaker 3: Sam Walker thought he was just fantastic, and three points
[32:48] Speaker 3: when he was in the high rollers room that last
[32:50] Speaker 3: twenty minutes. Nathan Cleary twenty twenty two, all over again.
[32:52] Speaker 2: Yeah, I went three points eighth and Cleary I did
[32:55] Speaker 2: two points Ethan Strange and then I went at one point.
[32:58] Speaker 2: I think he was even in even though the brain fart.
[33:01] Speaker 2: I think Calen Ponger at one point. I think it
[33:03] Speaker 2: was Queensland's best with what he what he did hard, yeah,
[33:07] Speaker 2: and Sam Walker was he was hard to miss out.
[33:10] Speaker 3: What a debut we had two fantastic mate, jack Attack.
[33:12] Speaker 3: There's so many young players who arrived, as I said,
[33:15] Speaker 3: for very good players walking out of their stadium as superstars.
[33:19] Speaker 1: Yeah, Jacko, I had three points. I had Sam Walker
[33:22] Speaker 1: to Ethan Strange and one for Munster y nice.
[33:25] Speaker 2: Oh not a Nathan Cleary thing, I am.
[33:28] Speaker 1: I just I think just other than the sandoff, I
[33:31] Speaker 1: thought Munster and Walker were playing that damn good.
[33:33] Speaker 2: Yeah it was and you know what good to see
[33:36] Speaker 2: Teddy back in the area to have a night, have
[33:38] Speaker 2: a what a great fit, like great moment. He's the
[33:40] Speaker 2: one that ended the drought back in the day scoring
[33:43] Speaker 2: when Blake Ferguson put him away and he scores a
[33:46] Speaker 2: trial of that over the hammer. What a cool moment.
[33:48] Speaker 2: Two minutes ago, like we sort of looked like we
[33:51] Speaker 2: weren't going to score, weren't really throwing two much or
[33:53] Speaker 2: twelve down. Queensland were like you could that. You know
[33:55] Speaker 2: they're going to rally just to try to defend their
[33:57] Speaker 2: ass in true Queensland spirit. Nathan Cleary, it was just right.
[34:02] Speaker 2: It's James tedesco versus Hamma just puts that bomb up
[34:05] Speaker 2: and it was just whoever wants it more? That was good.
[34:08] Speaker 2: You've nearly dropped it.
[34:08] Speaker 3: There's an old saying Cooper, an age old saying Jack,
[34:12] Speaker 3: and it applies to the game tonight. Some of the
[34:14] Speaker 3: performances in this podcast. All's well that ends well, good
[34:18] Speaker 3: Night Australia.

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