# #89 | Willie Mason | Part 2 | Reg Reagan, State of Origin & Acting

An episode of [Backstage with Cooper & Matty Johns](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1729949087), 7 Jun 2026, 38 min.

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Welcome to Part 2! Reg Reagan, Greg Bird, and the Cam Murray starter debate all get a run. Wayne Bennett leaps across a room, and the genuine connection in Clubland chat gives insight into NRL Club Culture. Will Forte, The White House, and Party Hardy to close — what a way to finish. Subscribe, Watch, and Follow Catch the full episode on YouTube and stay updated by following us on social media: Linktree: Backstage with Cooper & Matty Contact Us For any enquiries, email us at: contact@johnsmedia.com.au See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

## Transcript

[0:00] Speaker 1: They were on a different note NFL, so you had
[0:04] Speaker 1: a bit of a concept New York Giants open radiust
[0:08] Speaker 1: New York over.
[0:09] Speaker 2: There, did you?
[0:10] Speaker 3: But here was it two thousand and six, So you're
[0:13] Speaker 3: like in the peaky of Power's asked.
[0:15] Speaker 2: Me to come over, like the Jets and Giants. So
[0:17] Speaker 2: I did their whole. So we just finished. We just
[0:20] Speaker 2: won six the four nations, right, so partied a little
[0:23] Speaker 2: bit after that. So I had to go in November,
[0:25] Speaker 2: freezing cold in New York. They flew me over, stayed
[0:28] Speaker 2: in Tribeca Grand had a good couple of nights. They're
[0:31] Speaker 2: still fit, right, so you didn't really have to worry
[0:33] Speaker 2: about much. Soided to do the combine.
[0:35] Speaker 1: Yeah right right, the fucking yeah.
[0:39] Speaker 2: Fucking hell fucking it's just like so I ran the
[0:42] Speaker 2: four sixs for the forty four six for forty yards,
[0:45] Speaker 2: did all the elf whatever their things were, like, I
[0:47] Speaker 2: blew it out your mobile, your mother fucking yeh yeah.
[0:49] Speaker 2: And my catch radius so that I was a defensive
[0:52] Speaker 2: end or a tight end because I'm one hundred and
[0:54] Speaker 2: ninety seven centimeters at all wingspan two eleven. Yeah, right,
[0:57] Speaker 2: So they're all about that catch radius and all that
[0:59] Speaker 2: sort of ship and fast. I was quick over forty
[1:02] Speaker 2: that was my main thing, and soft hands and then
[1:05] Speaker 2: like can and then they showed me like in defense.
[1:09] Speaker 2: So I was just with my manager and fucking thirty
[1:12] Speaker 2: coaches in a fucking in. It was like an indoor
[1:15] Speaker 2: thing right at the Jets. So they said, told manager
[1:19] Speaker 2: fuck off, and so it was just me and all
[1:21] Speaker 2: the coaches just running me through all these drills, like
[1:24] Speaker 2: all these fucking Oklahoma drills. Me against the offensive line,
[1:28] Speaker 2: trying to get to the trying to get to the quarterback.
[1:31] Speaker 2: So it was me versu their O line. I'm not
[1:33] Speaker 2: sure whether they start or whatever it is. They're going
[1:35] Speaker 2: just get to the QB. What position were you trialing for? Well,
[1:38] Speaker 2: they hit me at tight end, so I'm run all
[1:41] Speaker 2: these different routes and then they tried me as a
[1:43] Speaker 2: defensive end, So get to the QB. So out of
[1:45] Speaker 2: six times, I got to the QB five times. So
[1:48] Speaker 2: I said, what's the rules? He is? I didn't really
[1:50] Speaker 2: know the rules like I know now because no grabbing, No,
[1:52] Speaker 2: they can't grab. You can't use your hands, use your
[1:54] Speaker 2: spin movie if you've got anything like that. I was like,
[1:56] Speaker 2: so these guys are like they're big boys, but like orthodox, Yeah,
[2:03] Speaker 2: I'm very long and I'm you know, like very so.
[2:06] Speaker 2: So I nailed all that. So I had a contract
[2:08] Speaker 2: with the Jets and the Giants but couldn't get that
[2:11] Speaker 2: started the whole rut with the Dogs. So that was
[2:13] Speaker 2: in O six and I left after seven, and folks,
[2:15] Speaker 2: he loved NFL, and I said, folks, this never is
[2:18] Speaker 2: never going to come around. They were willing to fly
[2:20] Speaker 2: me over the next fucking month to New York to
[2:24] Speaker 2: do so start till September to to do fucking pre
[2:27] Speaker 2: season and just like not pre just just to train
[2:30] Speaker 2: and learn everything he goes by the time he goes.
[2:33] Speaker 2: So they're willing to put me on that squad just
[2:35] Speaker 2: because of my dimensions and all that sort of ship
[2:37] Speaker 2: and the product and the the Yeah.
[2:41] Speaker 3: I was so white did the dogs just so they.
[2:43] Speaker 2: Wouldn't let let me out of my contract. And the
[2:45] Speaker 2: NFL is like, well, you're not that special for us
[2:47] Speaker 2: to even get in a lawsuit because they will threaten,
[2:50] Speaker 2: you know, the bull Dogs could threaten in the NFL.
[2:52] Speaker 2: They're like, please project get away, Like who cares? And
[2:55] Speaker 2: I was just like the contract was there sitting here
[2:57] Speaker 2: fucking tribrecky Grand then fucking gazz Gas was in New
[3:00] Speaker 2: York and Sam as Luke O'donald and we just do.
[3:03] Speaker 1: You do you look about how we had Jesse Jesse Williams.
[3:07] Speaker 1: Jesse was toldless about you know, when he was going
[3:10] Speaker 1: for the combine and everything. He said, what they do now,
[3:12] Speaker 1: it's got to the point that they'll they'll they'll deny
[3:15] Speaker 1: your sleep, they'll not food, make you hungry, and then
[3:18] Speaker 1: they'll sit you down and give a question answer.
[3:21] Speaker 2: He said, well, you're.
[3:21] Speaker 1: Really strung out, They're fuckingum. How do you look back
[3:24] Speaker 1: on it?
[3:24] Speaker 4: Now?
[3:24] Speaker 1: Will he do you regret it?
[3:25] Speaker 2: Or just I would? I said to folks, you said, mate,
[3:28] Speaker 2: worst case scenario, they don't want me and I just
[3:31] Speaker 2: come back and I just sign a fucking lifetime deal
[3:34] Speaker 2: with the dogs and I don't move at all, right,
[3:36] Speaker 2: I said, just give me this one opportunity, Malcolm, no
[3:39] Speaker 2: fuck with And then George's proponents like he George Proponents
[3:42] Speaker 2: was sort of like, but he was a jamming. I said,
[3:44] Speaker 2: you don't over rule everyone, folks, you're sort of neutral.
[3:47] Speaker 2: But it was like no, And then I was like,
[3:49] Speaker 2: oh you fus you know, because never ever would never
[3:51] Speaker 2: ever come up again Prime. That's the one credit thing.
[3:55] Speaker 2: I was just like, come on, and I just couldn't.
[3:58] Speaker 2: You couldn't break contray accent. Yeah, you couldn't. Like you
[4:01] Speaker 2: just you just couldn't walk away like yeah, And I
[4:04] Speaker 2: was just yeah, that was a bit frustrating that and
[4:06] Speaker 2: then I just end up coming back.
[4:07] Speaker 1: I was a little bit bitter, and then the other
[4:09] Speaker 1: left fielting will Yeah, sorry, you can I ask some
[4:12] Speaker 1: more footag stuff and I can feel in trying to
[4:14] Speaker 1: get away from Rapa.
[4:18] Speaker 5: Because State of Origin, right, we're in this origin period
[4:22] Speaker 5: right now. But before we talk a little bit of
[4:24] Speaker 5: odent stuff. You and Dad, some of your dad's best
[4:27] Speaker 5: moments were Dad is red Wagans And I always felt
[4:30] Speaker 5: like when you first came into State of Origin two
[4:33] Speaker 5: thousand and two was kind of when Dad was in
[4:35] Speaker 5: the footy showe and he started Red Dragon. But you see,
[4:39] Speaker 5: all the blokes have to do media now and they
[4:40] Speaker 5: get everybody in there doing like questions or what not.
[4:42] Speaker 5: But it seemed like Dad, they just gave him like
[4:45] Speaker 5: access three fucking accents, but green lights everyone even to
[4:48] Speaker 5: the point of life. There's the old videos of you
[4:51] Speaker 5: doing red dagon and they just gave you like a
[4:53] Speaker 5: hotel key to everyone's room and you're just swiping into
[4:56] Speaker 5: like and Willy's on the bed in a towel and
[4:58] Speaker 5: you're like you will and everyone.
[5:01] Speaker 2: Loved because these It was just it was an awesome
[5:03] Speaker 2: time in rugby league. It was like two thousands, like
[5:07] Speaker 2: two and it's just like everyone was having fun. There
[5:10] Speaker 2: was no fucking PC bullshit. It was just like play
[5:13] Speaker 2: the game hard, go out. You'd see half the half
[5:15] Speaker 2: the bloody NRL in the cross, you know what I mean,
[5:18] Speaker 2: Like it'd be like it was normal. It was normal
[5:21] Speaker 2: to see like fucking four or five teams at Revis's
[5:24] Speaker 2: on a Sunday in its sapphire in the cross like
[5:27] Speaker 2: it was just we're part of the fabric right now.
[5:30] Speaker 2: You wouldn't see you don't see anyone now, but Red
[5:32] Speaker 2: Dagan was fucking just part of the NRL whatever. It
[5:36] Speaker 2: was just like any access.
[5:38] Speaker 1: At the Grand Final. Fo I'm gonna we're gonna show
[5:41] Speaker 1: will the after where me like your your Grand fight photo, folks,
[5:45] Speaker 1: he said, mate, just come in the photo. So the
[5:47] Speaker 1: Grand Final photo, the official Grand Final photo to two
[5:51] Speaker 1: thousand and four.
[5:51] Speaker 2: I'm it's got fitness and nutrition coordinator.
[5:57] Speaker 4: That's the way it was.
[5:58] Speaker 2: It was just that it was an awesome time. Where
[6:00] Speaker 2: was now Everyone's just saying no, no, no no.
[6:02] Speaker 1: I was just like Bobcat, just sitting Bob, No one cares.
[6:06] Speaker 1: Wasn't a deal, mate, tears great to run into really
[6:11] Speaker 1: fucking ol Roadim too was a good any good guy
[6:15] Speaker 1: and just quickly well coops fetching that I meant to
[6:17] Speaker 1: stay after talk. Congratulations on the levels Levels podcast, Mate scope,
[6:22] Speaker 1: How good is done?
[6:22] Speaker 6: Good?
[6:23] Speaker 2: Mate?
[6:23] Speaker 1: He is, Mate, he is awesome.
[6:25] Speaker 2: He loves the game. Yeah, like you know what I mean.
[6:27] Speaker 2: You can tell he's just a proper fan for the
[6:28] Speaker 2: game and you have to be like, I love the
[6:30] Speaker 2: game and watch every minute. I just love to go.
[6:32] Speaker 2: I love the product. I love all the players, the
[6:34] Speaker 2: current players, and like what the game, where the game's going? Mate,
[6:38] Speaker 2: ilsate all the older players, like I give like love
[6:41] Speaker 2: to all blokes like you and the guys who dug
[6:42] Speaker 2: the well for us to be in a position now
[6:45] Speaker 2: where the game's worth billions of dollars, And I love
[6:47] Speaker 2: that And I'm always I'm always about the guys who
[6:50] Speaker 2: fucking dug the wealth of blokes like you blokes like
[6:52] Speaker 2: me for a guy like paying us to get you know,
[6:55] Speaker 2: one and a half mil. That's right, so you never
[6:57] Speaker 2: forget about that. You can't find it.
[7:00] Speaker 4: Well somewhere, especially now the.
[7:11] Speaker 2: Levels has been going good. Mate, it's it's a good
[7:14] Speaker 2: little mix, you know, like Lukey's he's a genius at
[7:18] Speaker 2: what he does. You know, we all we all bring
[7:20] Speaker 2: like some sort of we' all got strengths, right Like
[7:23] Speaker 2: Lukey does all the editing and producing, makes all like
[7:26] Speaker 2: a social media ship look cool. And you know, I
[7:29] Speaker 2: do my thing. Scope does his thing like he goes.
[7:33] Speaker 2: He goes through the show. He fucking and.
[7:35] Speaker 1: Ships so particulate Matete. First time I heard him on radio,
[7:39] Speaker 1: I didn't know it was first of all because it
[7:41] Speaker 1: was a new voice and I thought I was drive
[7:43] Speaker 1: along and mate, who's this guy? Funck is impressive?
[7:48] Speaker 2: Brilliant.
[7:49] Speaker 5: Yeah, I love some of the some of the some
[7:52] Speaker 5: of that. Jack's got a great insight into this because
[7:54] Speaker 5: he was at Newcastle at the time. But you get
[7:56] Speaker 5: on the podcast and this is why we love you,
[7:58] Speaker 5: because you just say exactly what you think. You don't
[8:00] Speaker 5: worry about anything else but the time you just went
[8:03] Speaker 5: after the night Newcastle Knight's spine.
[8:07] Speaker 3: You were there, that's all right.
[8:09] Speaker 6: So we went to remember we went to Reviizis at
[8:12] Speaker 6: the end of the year. There was a It was
[8:13] Speaker 6: my first day of work the next day and the
[8:16] Speaker 6: escape come up to me and goes, hey, mate, I
[8:18] Speaker 6: know you're retiring, but how the boy is coming off
[8:21] Speaker 6: around the.
[8:21] Speaker 1: Whole willy stuff.
[8:22] Speaker 6: I said, oh, maybe give it twelve months.
[8:27] Speaker 1: I love that.
[8:27] Speaker 2: And it was just as an honest question, what do
[8:29] Speaker 2: you think I said that got the worst spine? Fucking
[8:33] Speaker 2: No one was really disagreeing. Tyson Gamble, you throw ponger
[8:38] Speaker 2: out of that fucking will be one of the worst ever.
[8:41] Speaker 2: Talking a funny one the other day.
[8:42] Speaker 1: It's popped up last night on something and it was
[8:45] Speaker 1: the thing.
[8:45] Speaker 2: On on Greg Bird.
[8:47] Speaker 1: It shows you how times changed. He I, Greg, what
[8:52] Speaker 1: do you think about the comments from mal Mininga that
[8:55] Speaker 1: you've been watching too much soccer? You know that you
[8:57] Speaker 1: took a dive and he goes, I was already said
[8:59] Speaker 1: we need to put a jury. Just run out.
[9:04] Speaker 2: Coach, coach and I love the look away.
[9:07] Speaker 3: You just went like, yeah, I love and you can
[9:10] Speaker 3: see I love when.
[9:13] Speaker 2: Yeah true.
[9:14] Speaker 3: The journal asked him, you see it sort of hurt him.
[9:17] Speaker 3: Mal said that did he put on a jersey? Came running?
[9:21] Speaker 2: Mal is more than happy to put a jersey on. Mind, okay, Bertie.
[9:28] Speaker 5: When you look back at your time in Origin, in
[9:30] Speaker 5: all your career, where does origin sit the Origin?
[9:33] Speaker 2: Where in the Origin jersey? Yeah, that's stuff there, mate?
[9:35] Speaker 2: Is that, mate? It's what you dream of because it's
[9:39] Speaker 2: all what it's it's everything what you dream of. Like Matte,
[9:41] Speaker 2: he's lived that dream like only we're both he says,
[9:44] Speaker 2: not trying to you know what I mean, Like you're
[9:46] Speaker 2: sitting there as a ten year old, twelve year old
[9:48] Speaker 2: going fuck, I want to play for Australia, win a
[9:51] Speaker 2: competition and everything. We're blessed the city like now as
[9:55] Speaker 2: grown asks men and go funck we did all that.
[9:58] Speaker 2: It's very rare. I've got a lot of grat attitude
[10:00] Speaker 2: and a lot of perspective and everything like that about
[10:03] Speaker 2: my career and what I achieved. And I'm like, it's
[10:06] Speaker 2: fucking cool. You sit back and it's like, yeah, that
[10:08] Speaker 2: was cool. It's fun.
[10:08] Speaker 1: Cruise Its fun, isn't it funny? You look back with
[10:10] Speaker 1: you and you look at little things you don't recognize
[10:12] Speaker 1: at the time. Of course you don't know the little
[10:14] Speaker 1: crossroads you're hitt And I said, fucking what did that happen?
[10:16] Speaker 1: That might have sent me here? Your makeshit belie, makes
[10:20] Speaker 1: you believe in fate, yeah, you know what I mean,
[10:22] Speaker 1: and makes you believe in it certain things.
[10:24] Speaker 2: It's always like that the origins up there, like just
[10:26] Speaker 2: running out for New South Wales, like because I was
[10:28] Speaker 2: the one that was idolizing guys like Bradley Clyde and
[10:30] Speaker 2: Chief Harr again and all those blokes. I remember being
[10:33] Speaker 2: behind the post when Chief and Spud went at it
[10:35] Speaker 2: in ninety five. I was a young fifteen year old
[10:37] Speaker 2: kid and not many fifteen year old kid should be thinking.
[10:40] Speaker 2: It's like I want to do that, yeah, and that
[10:42] Speaker 2: was one of the most biggest collisions ever in sport.
[10:44] Speaker 2: And I'm like, fuck, can't wait to do that. It's heavy,
[10:46] Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And then I ended up
[10:47] Speaker 2: living that dream because I ended up playing for Newcastle
[10:49] Speaker 2: wearing number ten. Yea fucking playing I used to because
[10:52] Speaker 2: I used to shine channel in the Chief's fucking energy,
[10:55] Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Because it's like it's a
[10:57] Speaker 2: special number. Wearing number ten Newcastle mane.
[11:00] Speaker 5: How people always say now, like Nissa Welshman, they don't
[11:04] Speaker 5: lift like Queensland as so they don't really understand Orejon.
[11:06] Speaker 5: They don't get the jersey you hearing you speak about
[11:09] Speaker 5: Origin and Dad speaks about.
[11:11] Speaker 3: It as well when he was playing there, and Joey
[11:13] Speaker 3: plays there as well.
[11:14] Speaker 5: But he's got a pretty good line. I'll throw a
[11:19] Speaker 5: few other pred Hudgson played there, got dragged over. But
[11:24] Speaker 5: does that annoy you?
[11:25] Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit, Like I mean, it was just annoying,
[11:28] Speaker 2: like even though we did win, like a couple, just
[11:31] Speaker 2: didn't come out with that with that right frame of
[11:33] Speaker 2: mind where I'm just thinking, like you're in the front row,
[11:36] Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I think I would love
[11:38] Speaker 2: to see him give Adam another crack. I don't want
[11:41] Speaker 2: to see him like because because he's been around, like
[11:44] Speaker 2: he's a two hundred gamer already, you know, like he's
[11:46] Speaker 2: been around for a minute, and I think he's playing
[11:49] Speaker 2: some of his best football. But he be one of
[11:51] Speaker 2: those guys sitting back O. Fuck, I'd love to have
[11:53] Speaker 2: the crack at Origin, you know, like for the last
[11:55] Speaker 2: three or four he's been one of the top three props.
[11:57] Speaker 2: I think he's been him Tino and painhas yeah, arguably,
[12:00] Speaker 2: and they've all had their different sort of years where
[12:02] Speaker 2: Adam's fucking been the guy on top and he'd be saying, fuck,
[12:05] Speaker 2: I could love to play Origin. I'd probably dominate that.
[12:08] Speaker 2: And I think if you've got another chance, he'd understand
[12:10] Speaker 2: because I don't think Mitch barnetch that started. And I
[12:13] Speaker 2: think paying Hess would be his best partner because paying
[12:16] Speaker 2: Harskins just skiddle them, and and Adam can skid them.
[12:19] Speaker 2: For paying Hass, you've got to go intend of Bang
[12:21] Speaker 2: bang bang. And I think if they choose that combination
[12:24] Speaker 2: and don't and don't pick YOEI up the front or
[12:26] Speaker 2: anything like that, pick your back rollers, put Kem Murray
[12:29] Speaker 2: at Locke and then fucking put Yoie on the beach
[12:31] Speaker 2: somewhere so we can play these miners. He always played
[12:33] Speaker 2: his best player. I know he's captain and everything like that.
[12:35] Speaker 2: Give it to Cleary.
[12:36] Speaker 1: He's going to be captain for the rest of his
[12:37] Speaker 1: career and Willie.
[12:38] Speaker 2: I agree with that.
[12:39] Speaker 1: In previous series, previous years, I've gone Kem Murray start
[12:43] Speaker 1: Isaiah off the bench. This year of Game one, I changed,
[12:46] Speaker 1: so I thought, okay, Isaiah start, because what it might
[12:48] Speaker 1: do and might get rid of through for me out
[12:50] Speaker 1: in combination getting Athan going early. But the brotblem was
[12:53] Speaker 1: couldn't get forward, no man. So they may have may
[12:55] Speaker 1: as well been seeing sitting in the ground Murray. When
[12:58] Speaker 1: Murray came on, Victor gave us some emotion. Yeah, but
[13:01] Speaker 1: Murray gave us some traction.
[13:02] Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, You've got to start in mate. He's just
[13:05] Speaker 2: too good. Like he's he knows how to find like
[13:07] Speaker 2: he's spaces not faces. Always tell young kids that run
[13:10] Speaker 2: in spaces, not faces. You don't have to get that collision.
[13:12] Speaker 2: And he's a master that. Because he can't be running
[13:13] Speaker 2: straight into Teenai, he's gonna put him on his back.
[13:15] Speaker 2: But he's got that late footwork. He's got the skill
[13:18] Speaker 2: set of a halfback like oh if either put I
[13:21] Speaker 2: had mine as like Adam Finel Blake and Yowie at
[13:23] Speaker 2: front row, back row, Oliquah too and young and then
[13:27] Speaker 2: and then Ken Murray. Because I don't think he's a
[13:29] Speaker 2: bench player. I mean you can, but like he can.
[13:32] Speaker 2: It's not like he's too small. You can't cop hits
[13:34] Speaker 2: like he will drive anyone into the ground. It's just
[13:37] Speaker 2: about balancing that forward pack big you know, and what
[13:39] Speaker 2: do you do with Oli kauha tu now, Like You're like,
[13:41] Speaker 2: he didn't touch the ball for fourteen minutes. I'm like, fuck,
[13:44] Speaker 2: you got to feed that kid man, or get on
[13:46] Speaker 2: the open side, like I'd love to see just say
[13:49] Speaker 2: with just I played back row before, Like I don't
[13:51] Speaker 2: give a fuck. I'm like, it's not structured in origin.
[13:53] Speaker 2: You get around and get the ball whenever you want.
[13:55] Speaker 2: I think he's used to in this day, this day
[13:58] Speaker 2: and age. Right side ball side back railers do not
[14:01] Speaker 2: cross the fucking black dot.
[14:02] Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't.
[14:03] Speaker 5: And the heart and the hardest thing I imagine is
[14:05] Speaker 5: when you have Nathan as your half, because Nathan floats
[14:08] Speaker 5: and he kind of is the primary ball player on
[14:10] Speaker 5: both sides.
[14:10] Speaker 2: And NAT's just I found Nathan. I'm like, you're getting
[14:12] Speaker 2: the ball in the first set, ye, getting it at
[14:14] Speaker 2: the early ball, or get on the open side and
[14:17] Speaker 2: get it Tino or fucking Lindsey and steamroll. Imagine what
[14:21] Speaker 2: fucking impact that would say to like everyone else, like
[14:24] Speaker 2: no one, no one's fucking hitting him, No one's hitting him.
[14:27] Speaker 2: Like you see in his first like run month months,
[14:30] Speaker 2: they just went flying. Yeah, So he's in that he's
[14:32] Speaker 2: at that level now where he's the premier back roll.
[14:34] Speaker 3: Yeah, and how important I need him.
[14:36] Speaker 2: Fucking I need him like to get the ball like
[14:38] Speaker 2: at least fifteen times.
[14:39] Speaker 3: How important it is in Origin to start well.
[14:42] Speaker 1: The longer it goes, you're like to balls ten minutes,
[14:46] Speaker 1: minutes gone. And just what Willy's talking about there is
[14:49] Speaker 1: exactly why Adams picked the game two, because what Adam
[14:53] Speaker 1: after game one? Adam will be laying in bed staring
[14:56] Speaker 1: at the roof carent Right, Okay, I didn't get the
[14:58] Speaker 1: preparation right here.
[15:00] Speaker 2: I wasn't doing this.
[15:01] Speaker 1: I wasn't doing that, and you start to work it out,
[15:03] Speaker 1: like I took Joey his third go to play well
[15:05] Speaker 1: at Origin. He's first two. Like Gus used to say
[15:08] Speaker 1: all the time. Mate, when you get out there, make
[15:10] Speaker 1: a tackle as quick as you can, it doesn't matter,
[15:13] Speaker 1: and get tackles. Support, do support do the game's gone,
[15:16] Speaker 1: he said, And make the first Origin I played, remember
[15:19] Speaker 1: just buzzing around Willie and then Siren Gallan, I go,
[15:22] Speaker 1: what the fuck's happened?
[15:23] Speaker 2: Then it's halftime.
[15:24] Speaker 1: It's just gone.
[15:25] Speaker 2: You've got to make the most of everything, right, So
[15:27] Speaker 2: all the kit that's what I want. We won the game, right,
[15:30] Speaker 2: so it's right. I mean, I honestly believe if pong
[15:33] Speaker 2: it doesn't go, oh, we do lose, but fuck it,
[15:36] Speaker 2: he's gone and we won. So let's look at the
[15:38] Speaker 2: positives and then so I want those blokes to get
[15:40] Speaker 2: another crack at it because I think they can really
[15:43] Speaker 2: and destroy Queensland if we're on.
[15:45] Speaker 1: Yeah, what about fucking what about McLean?
[15:48] Speaker 2: God?
[15:48] Speaker 1: What about Helieva?
[15:51] Speaker 2: Seems first like to say he's first playing Origin, just
[15:54] Speaker 2: jumps like no one would really do it, jumps out
[15:56] Speaker 2: of his gain, catches it easy, takes it forty.
[15:59] Speaker 4: Yeah.
[16:00] Speaker 2: I just love the conference on the kid.
[16:01] Speaker 4: You know what it started.
[16:02] Speaker 2: Remember last year him and Credit went at it big time.
[16:05] Speaker 2: That was the moment I said he belongs and now
[16:08] Speaker 2: he's fucking me and should and everyone. He did that
[16:11] Speaker 2: to Critter and I was like, ooh, Credit and Credit
[16:13] Speaker 2: back then, he's the he's the guy made he did.
[16:16] Speaker 2: They weren't really worried about Critic leaving because they had
[16:18] Speaker 2: that kid there.
[16:19] Speaker 1: Suit Now mate buck he got against Critter that night
[16:22] Speaker 1: and defend him, and you know, Credit he got defensive center.
[16:24] Speaker 1: At one point, he got born McClean and went beating
[16:27] Speaker 1: and did a number on him hand side and the
[16:29] Speaker 1: winger hit him outside. I said, I've never seen Credit
[16:32] Speaker 1: beaten like.
[16:33] Speaker 2: He made, and I regon that was the start of
[16:35] Speaker 2: him going all right, fucking do that. The critter fucking
[16:38] Speaker 2: everyone's getting you know, I think there's no level as this,
[16:40] Speaker 2: the four eyes in your fucking Testabut come on, and
[16:44] Speaker 2: some of these special kids are like Israel Phloer, when
[16:47] Speaker 2: is he forwer come? I remember he was seventy in
[16:48] Speaker 2: two thousand and seven, I was playing I member playing
[16:50] Speaker 2: his first test with him. We beat New Zealand fifty
[16:52] Speaker 2: two over. There is his first touch, like he's played
[16:56] Speaker 2: a great knowledge and everything that is his first touch
[16:58] Speaker 2: comes off across thirty five meets out fucking boom boom boom,
[17:01] Speaker 2: straight through and score thirty five meters out. I'm just like,
[17:05] Speaker 2: it's not.
[17:07] Speaker 5: I didn't realize how big Case he was until I
[17:09] Speaker 5: went apart from his height, like he's wit like he's
[17:14] Speaker 5: got long arms and he's.
[17:15] Speaker 1: Long limb because he's sort of thinn around the waist.
[17:18] Speaker 2: He's sticky from from there to hear. He's got those
[17:20] Speaker 2: fucking he's powerful and what.
[17:22] Speaker 5: I love how he's just he's just a little fresh
[17:25] Speaker 5: key boy, Like he's just I love like because we
[17:28] Speaker 5: had like we did the interviews with Nathan and that
[17:30] Speaker 5: he said, who you got on next? I said, Casey
[17:32] Speaker 5: McClain and him and BIZI went, you wait to you
[17:35] Speaker 5: And he is just the freshest, like he'll be that rattle.
[17:38] Speaker 2: But he's a baby. He's a baby. He's a twenty
[17:41] Speaker 2: year old baby. He's absolutely just destroying the league. And
[17:44] Speaker 2: it's just like for fun. He's still playing for fun.
[17:46] Speaker 2: And that's what I love about. Like just say, when
[17:49] Speaker 2: I look back on my career, everything was fun, right,
[17:51] Speaker 2: I just looked at it and I'm like, everything's so
[17:53] Speaker 2: joyful and like there was no real dull moments, right.
[17:57] Speaker 2: I think that's what's it's taking the fun out of
[17:59] Speaker 2: us and teams now because of the professionalism, and I
[18:03] Speaker 2: feel I can see that they are stressed, you know,
[18:07] Speaker 2: the external pressure right of social media. Right. I had
[18:10] Speaker 2: a good chat with fucking with Cyril about it. He goes,
[18:13] Speaker 2: they're nearly call on Tuesdays, you know, teamless Tuesdays, death
[18:16] Speaker 2: threat Tuesdays. That's how much shit these players are copping.
[18:19] Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean, it doesn't look enjoyable
[18:21] Speaker 2: to go like, remember, I don't I don't think there
[18:24] Speaker 2: was a time where I just did not want to
[18:25] Speaker 2: go train and just fuck around with the boys. That's
[18:27] Speaker 2: and just like have a great time and just joke
[18:30] Speaker 2: and just like be in that locker room and just
[18:32] Speaker 2: everybody was best mates. What are we doing after this
[18:35] Speaker 2: fucking lunch? What are we doing after that dinner? Fucking
[18:38] Speaker 2: what time was doing pick up in the morning. It
[18:40] Speaker 2: was just like, especially at the Dogs, everyone was just
[18:43] Speaker 2: like connected. And then we all talk about connection. If
[18:46] Speaker 2: you other teams are like, we need to be connected,
[18:48] Speaker 2: we need to be connected. It's manufactured connection spot on.
[18:52] Speaker 2: Its manufactured, and it's when it's genuine. You get a
[18:54] Speaker 2: Penrith and they're homegrown, right, and they're all fucking died
[18:58] Speaker 2: for that Penrith Jersey and they had about ten or
[19:00] Speaker 2: twelve and a golden ear of that and they all
[19:02] Speaker 2: come through playing next year shit the same time, same
[19:05] Speaker 2: as us at the Dogs. Out of that seventeen who
[19:07] Speaker 2: played in that Grand Final, fourteen or fifteen of us
[19:10] Speaker 2: come through around he bought Ogre and Luke Patton. That's it,
[19:14] Speaker 2: you know, like everything else is fucking was just and
[19:18] Speaker 2: everything else is manufactured.
[19:19] Speaker 1: Now, Willie. There's so much of the game, so much
[19:22] Speaker 1: footy like talk, coach talk that must just wash off
[19:25] Speaker 1: the players. And that is one of the things our connection.
[19:28] Speaker 1: Connection Like honestly, if you could like the best, don't
[19:31] Speaker 1: talk about connection. It's just part of the culture and
[19:34] Speaker 1: you're part of it. You shouldn't have to talk about Hey, boys,
[19:37] Speaker 1: let's be connected, don't. You can't force morale, No, you
[19:40] Speaker 1: just can't do it. And I know, I know.
[19:41] Speaker 2: Alcohol is not a big fucking a big thing in
[19:44] Speaker 2: the game anymore, or even in society. Even May Bennett said,
[19:47] Speaker 2: he goes, I don't condone alcohol, he goes, but I
[19:49] Speaker 2: know it's good for the bonding for like, just how
[19:53] Speaker 2: many preseasons you've done. You're like, it's a little fuck
[19:55] Speaker 2: as I said, one word, all right, a couple of
[19:57] Speaker 2: beers fucking best all right, now I.
[19:59] Speaker 6: Talk to this.
[20:00] Speaker 1: You get some blokes who went over their mouths till
[20:02] Speaker 1: the fourth b hits eleven. They can't shut the floor,
[20:04] Speaker 1: and it's.
[20:04] Speaker 2: But then there's the connection. Not a bad bloke, but
[20:07] Speaker 2: off for your abstinutely fuck with.
[20:09] Speaker 5: Yeah, and what that does for trail, Like you haven't
[20:11] Speaker 5: spoke to this play for two weeks. They have a
[20:13] Speaker 5: big night, he might do something stupid training on Monday.
[20:16] Speaker 5: In there in the videos, everyone goes, have a look
[20:17] Speaker 5: at this play and he's out of his shell for
[20:19] Speaker 5: the next six months.
[20:20] Speaker 2: That's me and that's it, and that's what's probably missing them.
[20:22] Speaker 2: I don't condone drinking or anything like that, but I
[20:25] Speaker 2: mean a couple of beers after the games. The good
[20:27] Speaker 2: team still do that. The connected teams, they're not fucking
[20:31] Speaker 2: squirting fucking water bottles.
[20:32] Speaker 6: That's that's howth Sydney we are. The Boys twenty nine
[20:35] Speaker 6: going to twenty nine and nineteen season, Wayne does a
[20:37] Speaker 6: thing where he like makes you have sacrifices as you're
[20:40] Speaker 6: coming out of pre season and Sammy Burgess was going
[20:43] Speaker 6: to hop on the no alcohol train for the whole
[20:45] Speaker 6: twenty nine laugh mate, the whole twenty nineteen season. Wayne
[20:49] Speaker 6: nearly leaped across the room kind of everyone and said, no,
[20:53] Speaker 6: sand you won't be doing that.
[20:54] Speaker 3: You need to enjoy your wins.
[20:56] Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Like Wayne is like that, you
[20:58] Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like he's a He's a massive
[21:01] Speaker 2: influence on my life. Wayne, like, I've had a great
[21:03] Speaker 2: time with him. In two thousand and four he was
[21:05] Speaker 2: the Aussie coach and everything like that, and since then
[21:07] Speaker 2: we've had a connection. Right, he got me back into
[21:10] Speaker 2: into the game. Right, it was about twenty eighteen. I
[21:13] Speaker 2: was sort of you know, I just retired and I
[21:14] Speaker 2: was like, ah fuck. And when he was coaching South,
[21:19] Speaker 2: he used to live out at Chiffley.
[21:21] Speaker 4: Just need my joint.
[21:22] Speaker 2: Let's come over, so have a fucking cap of tea
[21:24] Speaker 2: or whatever fucking water. Doesn't drink coffee or anything that. Heyes,
[21:27] Speaker 2: what are you doing? I said, I'm doing a few
[21:29] Speaker 2: things here, a few things here. He goes, you need
[21:31] Speaker 2: to get back in the game, I said. He goes,
[21:34] Speaker 2: he guys, you're too much of a fucking influence and
[21:37] Speaker 2: a talent fucking not be involved with a team. And
[21:41] Speaker 2: you've lived a life and he goes, You've just you've
[21:44] Speaker 2: got too much knowledge, mate, what are you doing? He goes,
[21:47] Speaker 2: get to the Dogs? And then since then, like about you?
[21:51] Speaker 2: Like then I went and signed with the Dogs and
[21:52] Speaker 2: Gus gust got me back in and I think.
[21:55] Speaker 4: Way for that.
[21:56] Speaker 2: I thank Gus. Right, so once I signed with the
[21:58] Speaker 2: Dogs and then like everything sort of just trickered on
[22:00] Speaker 2: from there, but in a good way, right, because Wayne
[22:03] Speaker 2: just goes, you can't be sitting around here. You're not
[22:05] Speaker 2: with all the ship that you know. Mate. He goes,
[22:07] Speaker 2: get back in there, mate, He goes, get back And
[22:10] Speaker 2: I said, I sort of took that person. I said, okay,
[22:12] Speaker 2: well I will you know. So I've been to the
[22:14] Speaker 2: dogs like four years now.
[22:15] Speaker 1: And that's the thing about it, mate, Like see a
[22:17] Speaker 1: bloot like Todd Carney and pathways. Right, So Toddy is mate,
[22:21] Speaker 1: so smart with the kids all the rest. But the
[22:22] Speaker 1: other thing about it's lived a fucking life like you.
[22:25] Speaker 1: So all of a sudden, mate, there's kid going through
[22:26] Speaker 1: a tough time. Who does you go and talk to,
[22:28] Speaker 1: Sir Francis Avier. You're going to speak to the blokes
[22:31] Speaker 1: who've been through it and come through it. Yeah, that's
[22:33] Speaker 1: what it's about exactly.
[22:34] Speaker 2: And he goes, mate, you've been for everything. He guess,
[22:36] Speaker 2: it's not one thing you haven't done. He goes, your success,
[22:38] Speaker 2: You've done everything in the game, on and off the field.
[22:40] Speaker 2: He goes, there's nothing that can get past it.
[22:42] Speaker 1: That's why Fozzy, that's why careen for so good at.
[22:44] Speaker 2: Mainly idiots where we've been for everything made I know
[22:47] Speaker 2: what you're doing.
[22:48] Speaker 1: Including you, which moves on to acting. Willy, I congratulate, congratulations,
[22:53] Speaker 1: fucking outstanding and will work and will fort mate?
[22:57] Speaker 2: How is that? Mate?
[23:01] Speaker 5: One of me, Dad and Jack's one of our favorite
[23:03] Speaker 5: comedies ever, Macgoober Magoova.
[23:05] Speaker 2: Yeah, it took me a while to ask me about Macgooverer.
[23:07] Speaker 2: Oh really yeah, because I didn't. I didn't really know him,
[23:10] Speaker 2: and I'm like, all I remember him from Saturday Nightlight
[23:12] Speaker 2: in Macgoover and he was just like and I knew
[23:14] Speaker 2: it because I was fucking couple of my mates were
[23:16] Speaker 2: like out there actually got Macgroover. I said, give me,
[23:18] Speaker 2: give me, give me a week. I can't just come
[23:20] Speaker 2: straight into that Magroover.
[23:22] Speaker 1: What's that role he plays in the movie where they
[23:24] Speaker 1: Got or Strip Club. He's real square and he's getting
[23:26] Speaker 1: the blow job out the front of his crying.
[23:28] Speaker 2: That's my boy, that's my boy. Yeah, that's my mom.
[23:30] Speaker 2: That sound My first scene of ever in acting was
[23:34] Speaker 2: with him. Oh wow, yeah, So he was fucking that
[23:37] Speaker 2: just come out of like I don't know, we like,
[23:40] Speaker 2: I didn't never be wanting to be an aspiring actor
[23:42] Speaker 2: or anything like that. So Claire's fucking best mate works
[23:47] Speaker 2: in wardrobe in the series or whatever. She's very blasse.
[23:51] Speaker 2: She goes, Willie, would you be interested in acting? I said,
[23:53] Speaker 2: fuck name jeans. She goes, I have youring. He's a
[23:56] Speaker 2: number anyway. His name is Tran o'donald. He's the Brooklyn
[24:00] Speaker 2: nine and nine and Colin's from Accounts and all this
[24:03] Speaker 2: sort of shit. Now I know it, like because I
[24:05] Speaker 2: love Brooklyn nine on. Anyway, So I'm in Brisbane, fucking
[24:08] Speaker 2: I said, he here you going, mate?
[24:09] Speaker 4: Really here?
[24:10] Speaker 2: He goes, Hey, go on's trend and he talks like that,
[24:12] Speaker 2: you know, these artsy sort of directors. He says, yeah,
[24:14] Speaker 2: I've got to. And I thought it was going to
[24:16] Speaker 2: be a role where I'm just going to be sitting
[24:17] Speaker 2: in the corner and just being a fucking, you know,
[24:19] Speaker 2: little part. Like he goes, I'll seen you through some
[24:22] Speaker 2: a couple of scripts. I just want you to be
[24:24] Speaker 2: a part of this. I said, all right, sweet, and
[24:26] Speaker 2: now I fucking row. I said, fuck, that's it's eight
[24:29] Speaker 2: seen eight episodes, I mean every single one. I said,
[24:33] Speaker 2: what the fuck is this? I said, I can't give
[24:34] Speaker 2: you an answer right now, I said, get back, I'll
[24:35] Speaker 2: get back to Sydney. We'll get we'll meeting Bronnie. I said,
[24:37] Speaker 2: I need to feel your energy and ship that if
[24:39] Speaker 2: you're serious. I don't know what the fuck's going on.
[24:41] Speaker 2: We'll meet on Monday whatever. On Monday. First thing, I said,
[24:45] Speaker 2: what the fuck makes you think that I want to
[24:47] Speaker 2: act or can act?
[24:50] Speaker 4: I don't know.
[24:50] Speaker 2: I just think you can. I've seen you and I've
[24:52] Speaker 2: seen enough of you. He goes, and I just think
[24:54] Speaker 2: you could fit this role very good. And I said,
[24:57] Speaker 2: fucking what is it? He goes, well, he's the next
[25:00] Speaker 2: footballer and this, this, this, this, He goes, I'll give
[25:02] Speaker 2: you some coaching lessons for about I did one or
[25:06] Speaker 2: two found the right sort of like Rachel House is
[25:09] Speaker 2: one of them. She's a brilliant actor, so her and
[25:11] Speaker 2: I just connected. And then it was just a little
[25:15] Speaker 2: bit of a bit of coaching, a little bit tone
[25:17] Speaker 2: it down, a little bit more icon I got. I
[25:19] Speaker 2: got it pretty easy right. And then it was like
[25:22] Speaker 2: when we're doing the scenes and that he goes, how
[25:24] Speaker 2: would you how would you do it? He goes, do
[25:26] Speaker 2: it like Terry does like and then do it how
[25:29] Speaker 2: you want to do it? And then add a couple
[25:31] Speaker 2: of things in so I was very ad lib. Right,
[25:33] Speaker 2: you can't it how you want to do it, Like
[25:34] Speaker 2: so me and will and it'd be a lot of
[25:37] Speaker 2: just banter and and like, yeah, I'm all right at that,
[25:41] Speaker 2: like just off the calf, I'm pretty good at it
[25:43] Speaker 2: comedics sort of like a little bit of like timing.
[25:46] Speaker 2: He goes, guys, you fucking nailed it, and I didn't really,
[25:49] Speaker 2: but I said, fucking shut up. Yeah, he goes, and
[25:52] Speaker 2: then even like he goes last week, so I'm going
[25:56] Speaker 2: to do another one. So I think number two is
[25:58] Speaker 2: going to come out and started filming, but this is
[26:01] Speaker 2: how bla train is again, right, so anyway before that,
[26:04] Speaker 2: he goes, so how important is this role? So you've
[26:06] Speaker 2: got to call this right from one to fucking thirty.
[26:09] Speaker 2: I see my head at four Z, I'm like, that
[26:12] Speaker 2: means like it will Forte, Darcy fucking Rachel House. And
[26:16] Speaker 2: then my head, I'm like, what does that mean? They go,
[26:18] Speaker 2: that's your fourth off to call this. That's like that
[26:21] Speaker 2: was way before everyone else. I'm like, oh fucking Jesus,
[26:24] Speaker 2: this is the first day.
[26:25] Speaker 1: So if you're if you're standing there like first day,
[26:27] Speaker 1: Willie and you're getting saw ready and you're waiting for
[26:30] Speaker 1: your first scene. How fucking nervous were I.
[26:32] Speaker 2: Don't think I was that nervous, right, I just sort
[26:35] Speaker 2: of like a little bit. I don't know. I'm like
[26:37] Speaker 2: I was just they go pretty much walk on your
[26:40] Speaker 2: spot and then just sort of go off. You're just
[26:42] Speaker 2: sort of going through your lines anyway. And it wasn't
[26:44] Speaker 2: that much and like it could just be natural, And
[26:47] Speaker 2: it was like little things like goes, go to the
[26:50] Speaker 2: fridge and do it naturally, right, and he goes, now
[26:53] Speaker 2: try and actuay to the fridge, and you look like
[26:56] Speaker 2: a fuck read of course, right, so but if you
[26:58] Speaker 2: just get up, get to the fridge, fucking grab it, drink,
[27:01] Speaker 2: it looks cool. That's what It's more natural. He goes,
[27:03] Speaker 2: you go up there thinking you're all prim and proper,
[27:05] Speaker 2: or go into the oven and getting something out of
[27:07] Speaker 2: the oven, and he goes, try and do that like
[27:09] Speaker 2: this was all practice, practice, and he goes, you look stupid,
[27:11] Speaker 2: like he goes, just natural, be natural, be yourself. So
[27:14] Speaker 2: everything I did was just it wasn't that much acting, right.
[27:17] Speaker 2: It was just like a little bit me turned down
[27:20] Speaker 2: a little bit. So it was like and and there
[27:24] Speaker 2: was a bit of comedic sort of stuff because it
[27:25] Speaker 2: was like very off off, off the top of the
[27:28] Speaker 2: head and all different angles. It was fucking it was
[27:31] Speaker 2: fun one of the funnest things I've done.
[27:32] Speaker 1: It's funny, you said, there, bet Like I heard an
[27:34] Speaker 1: interview with Harrison Ford first of a roll he did.
[27:37] Speaker 1: He was he turned up with this shoot. They said,
[27:39] Speaker 1: right up, we're going to give you a go, young fella.
[27:41] Speaker 1: Your job is going to be you're going to be
[27:42] Speaker 1: a billboy. You're going to walk over and you're going
[27:43] Speaker 1: to give a letter to the person on the desk.
[27:46] Speaker 1: He said, right, how do you want? What do you
[27:47] Speaker 1: want me to do? How do you want? He goes,
[27:48] Speaker 1: you're a billboy. I wants you to walk over let
[27:50] Speaker 1: him and just do that. Anyway, he went and watched it.
[27:53] Speaker 1: He said, he went and did it. When the movie
[27:54] Speaker 1: came out, his dad, his father went, oh, Harrison, that's.
[27:57] Speaker 4: All he did.
[27:57] Speaker 1: He said, exactly, I did it exactly right.
[28:00] Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just that's exactly that's what they said. Like
[28:02] Speaker 2: when you're talking, when you're doing things. He goes, just
[28:04] Speaker 2: do it how you would do it. He goes, there's
[28:08] Speaker 2: a character there, but like not much different from how
[28:11] Speaker 2: you are. He goes, I wrote this for you, so yeah,
[28:16] Speaker 2: why I don't know? He goes, you know what he said?
[28:19] Speaker 2: He goes, how many other six foot five blokes who's
[28:21] Speaker 2: got a little bit of charisma and can fucking put
[28:23] Speaker 2: a couple of words together? Can I find that's an actor?
[28:25] Speaker 2: He goes, I'm going to have to go get a
[28:27] Speaker 2: bloke who's fucking a trained actor. But he's five foot eight.
[28:30] Speaker 2: He goes, but your He goes, I can grab you
[28:33] Speaker 2: and teach you. And I said, fuck yeah, all right.
[28:36] Speaker 2: So now another conversation with him last week, this is
[28:38] Speaker 2: our fucking old trend talks. He's like, oh, so yeah,
[28:43] Speaker 2: we'll do We'll do Sunday nights too. He goes, but Netflix, yeah,
[28:48] Speaker 2: they want you to do a show around Christmas. I said, yeah, right,
[28:54] Speaker 2: what is it? And he goes about a big, bigger
[28:56] Speaker 2: role as Terry. He goes, you know, Sean Penn's going
[28:59] Speaker 2: to be in it. He fucking wrote, he rattled off
[29:01] Speaker 2: the list. I can't say I've rattled off the list
[29:04] Speaker 2: of things. He goes, Yeah, you'll probably be about the
[29:06] Speaker 2: same same as Terry. He's probably in an agent for this.
[29:10] Speaker 2: I said, what are you talking about? And he didn't say,
[29:13] Speaker 2: like do it? I said, should I fucking do this?
[29:17] Speaker 2: You know there's rhetorical questions. He goes, yeah, I think
[29:20] Speaker 2: you should do would be good. I said, well tell
[29:23] Speaker 2: him I'll do it because the stand I think Stan,
[29:26] Speaker 2: and the lady at Stan fucking loves me, right, and
[29:28] Speaker 2: I think she switched to Netflix. So she goes, get
[29:31] Speaker 2: the big man on. I just had a great relationship
[29:33] Speaker 2: with her, and then she goes, so we're shooting in
[29:36] Speaker 2: I'm not sure what it's called or anything like that,
[29:38] Speaker 2: but it's like it's in you're doing anything around Christmas.
[29:41] Speaker 2: I said, no, don't do this.
[29:44] Speaker 1: Really, I'd suggest this with a lot of lot with
[29:45] Speaker 1: football players of this, and particularly you think about yourself. Right,
[29:49] Speaker 1: you go from Toronto, you know, upbringing, you go as
[29:52] Speaker 1: a young bloke to this tough club, Bulldogs and this culture.
[29:56] Speaker 1: I suggest that we all, when we're young guys wear
[29:58] Speaker 1: a mask.
[29:59] Speaker 2: Football.
[30:00] Speaker 1: We wear it a lot of times and we are
[30:02] Speaker 1: in a lot of times we're acting. That's exactly what
[30:05] Speaker 1: one hundred percent it is.
[30:06] Speaker 2: Because I looked at it and I went because I
[30:08] Speaker 2: was a standover men as well, right, and I'm in that,
[30:11] Speaker 2: I'm in the underworld and all this sort of shit.
[30:12] Speaker 2: I said, I could put that hat on easy. You know,
[30:15] Speaker 2: you know my brother. You know my brother, you know,
[30:17] Speaker 2: and I'm just like, so there's a lot of different hats,
[30:19] Speaker 2: I said, I've been fucking Seemi acting my whole life
[30:22] Speaker 2: because when you're in a different you're in different rooms,
[30:24] Speaker 2: and she's like, you try not to be you put
[30:26] Speaker 2: different hats on. Right, I'm in a corporate sort of areas. Okay,
[30:30] Speaker 2: I'm talking to just fucking blokes at the bar, right,
[30:32] Speaker 2: I'm just having a crack, you know. We're just like
[30:34] Speaker 2: that's where levels comes into it, where they're going, fuck
[30:36] Speaker 2: you sound exactly like you are. I said, I don't
[30:38] Speaker 2: know how else to be. I can fucking pipe down
[30:41] Speaker 2: a bit and make it all corporate, but that's boring
[30:44] Speaker 2: as ship. But I'm in these rooms with these other blokes.
[30:46] Speaker 2: They just want to see. I said, I don't know
[30:48] Speaker 2: how to be anyone else. But we always wear masks.
[30:50] Speaker 1: We always wearing masks always, So that's.
[30:51] Speaker 2: What I think I was thinking with it. I was
[30:53] Speaker 2: just like, I've been doing this sort of thing my
[30:56] Speaker 2: whole life, and I really wanted to punch, and I
[30:58] Speaker 2: got to punch some fucking people, then I'd want to
[31:00] Speaker 2: punch in those situations.
[31:02] Speaker 1: Well, I got a call yesterday from a bloke and
[31:04] Speaker 1: he was to ask me about the UFC in the
[31:06] Speaker 1: White House, me going over there. Suddenly he takes a
[31:09] Speaker 1: turn and he goes, if you he goes, make yourself
[31:14] Speaker 1: sound like you're a bit of a fight fan. Yeah,
[31:17] Speaker 1: did you do much?
[31:18] Speaker 2: Yeah?
[31:18] Speaker 1: You do much, like you know, fighting yourself and you're
[31:20] Speaker 1: a kid. Hold this guy with this? Yeah, of course,
[31:24] Speaker 1: where'd you?
[31:25] Speaker 2: Where'd you fight?
[31:25] Speaker 1: I played a foot under kerry case the y C.
[31:30] Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what sort of fighting were you? I sort
[31:35] Speaker 1: of got on the offensive a little bit. Really, who
[31:37] Speaker 1: did you compare yourself to? Like I suppose a Roberto Durande?
[31:44] Speaker 1: And after I finished, what are you doing?
[31:47] Speaker 2: You fucking wake out? You go yeah, I'm going. Yeah,
[31:51] Speaker 2: there's you're going.
[31:51] Speaker 3: He's going.
[31:52] Speaker 1: He leaves next week.
[31:55] Speaker 2: The White House? Yeah, how good is that?
[31:56] Speaker 4: Yeah? I love you?
[31:57] Speaker 2: I love I love just like players, ex players, you
[32:01] Speaker 2: like everyone just doing good? You know what I mean? Like,
[32:03] Speaker 2: I hate it when people get fucking jealous and they're
[32:06] Speaker 2: not genuinely happy for you. You know what? I mean, like,
[32:09] Speaker 2: the only reason I did this podcast. I don't do
[32:10] Speaker 2: many podcasts. I said, with Statie John's fucking doing this easy.
[32:13] Speaker 2: It's not even, It's not even wasn't even a I mean,
[32:16] Speaker 2: any podcasts I'd get the arks to go on, I said,
[32:19] Speaker 2: fucking no, because like, I love you, I love your
[32:22] Speaker 2: fucking family, and we've had a relationship over twenty five years,
[32:25] Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's a long fucking time, right,
[32:27] Speaker 2: And I love people that are doing good things and
[32:30] Speaker 2: trying to help everyone else instead of going, oh, you know,
[32:33] Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. You know what I mean.
[32:34] Speaker 2: You're still young enough, but you know exactly what I'm
[32:36] Speaker 2: talking about. You think they're happy for you, but they're
[32:38] Speaker 2: fucking not. Especially in the rugby league world, right, there's
[32:41] Speaker 2: a lot of jealousy and all that sort of shit.
[32:42] Speaker 2: You say you're going to do X, Y and Z.
[32:44] Speaker 2: I don't tell anyone what I'm doing, do you know
[32:46] Speaker 2: what I mean? You just find out. I only told
[32:47] Speaker 2: like a couple of real close mates. I ran and
[32:49] Speaker 2: now I said, I did this. I just did this movie.
[32:51] Speaker 2: Because what the fuck are you doing? I said, I
[32:53] Speaker 2: don't know. I just did a movie. And I said,
[32:55] Speaker 2: and then he found out because he was he was
[32:57] Speaker 2: at a party. He goes, Apparently he fucking nailed it
[32:59] Speaker 2: and they hadn't. I said, I don't know. I said,
[33:02] Speaker 2: maybe they're acting. I said when I when I was
[33:05] Speaker 2: on scene, when I was on set, right, I was
[33:07] Speaker 2: waiting because everyone was so super fucking nice. I'm like,
[33:10] Speaker 2: this can't be it. They were all acting, you know
[33:13] Speaker 2: what I mean, because we're used to with this alpha,
[33:15] Speaker 2: alpha fucking world and just everyone's bag and.
[33:17] Speaker 3: The fun and also like you think, oh, they're just
[33:19] Speaker 3: trying to get a confidence up, you know.
[33:21] Speaker 2: I'm just like, will foretastes coming? Oh you did so
[33:23] Speaker 2: great yesterday, big man. Oh my god. Like I talked,
[33:25] Speaker 2: you said, he's fucking acting. He's acting. And then I
[33:30] Speaker 2: ended up taking him to like a Rooster's game.
[33:33] Speaker 5: Oh wow, I'm pissing that with him at the Did
[33:36] Speaker 5: you end up asking about macrooma yes, yes, yes, he
[33:39] Speaker 5: loved how was film?
[33:41] Speaker 2: And Macgroovy goes, Oh my god. I was like, oh, yeah,
[33:44] Speaker 2: that was the funniest thing I've ever done. And he goes,
[33:46] Speaker 2: I said, how did you play that? Party? Games? Because
[33:48] Speaker 2: it was an SNL thing they turned into that he goes.
[33:52] Speaker 2: He goes, we shot that in seven days. What yeah,
[33:55] Speaker 2: he goes. It was just fucking just the thing, whirl
[33:58] Speaker 2: wind bang done. I love that is one of my
[34:01] Speaker 2: favorite movies. But I got his fucking number, his face
[34:06] Speaker 2: signed me and everything.
[34:07] Speaker 1: That's awesome.
[34:07] Speaker 2: It's awesome.
[34:08] Speaker 5: I love I love him that when he's just like
[34:10] Speaker 5: he's his big thing, his ability to rip throats the
[34:14] Speaker 5: only way he kills people.
[34:15] Speaker 2: He rips his throats out, bowling turns though.
[34:18] Speaker 3: Yeah he gets four and cause the turkey he's really talking.
[34:23] Speaker 1: We're how funny one with with a face on. He's
[34:25] Speaker 1: one for two thousand and five. What's his name?
[34:29] Speaker 2: Rob Schneider.
[34:30] Speaker 1: Rob Schneider comes out to Australia, right, and he comes
[34:32] Speaker 1: on the footy shower and I do with him? Is
[34:34] Speaker 1: Red Dagan. He's like, yeah, last year, all right, I'm
[34:37] Speaker 1: driving along the car phone and I go, right, yea
[34:41] Speaker 1: hello now I.
[34:42] Speaker 4: Always do this.
[34:43] Speaker 1: Well, sorry boys, just one second, I'm just hello and
[34:47] Speaker 1: they go oh sorry, you know. People go no, I'm sorry,
[34:49] Speaker 1: I'm just doing some film. We've got to keep this
[34:51] Speaker 1: court quick.
[34:52] Speaker 4: I go.
[34:53] Speaker 1: He goes, hey, Maddie, how are you? And I go, oh, yeah, mate,
[34:57] Speaker 1: how you're going. He goes, have a guess who this
[34:59] Speaker 1: is and I said, mate, I've got no fucking idea.
[35:01] Speaker 1: He guess it's Rob Schneider and he goes, cared the
[35:08] Speaker 1: jersey you gave me. I brought it back to give
[35:11] Speaker 1: back to you, right, and we're like anyway. He obviously
[35:14] Speaker 1: thinks he thought like I'm this Tom Brady. So he's
[35:18] Speaker 1: going on these morning shows going and pulling a jersey out,
[35:22] Speaker 1: saying I brought this back to give to.
[35:23] Speaker 2: Maddie john.
[35:26] Speaker 5: He thought his name was Maddie john So he came
[35:29] Speaker 5: on when I was on the Corlin Jack Yosha.
[35:31] Speaker 3: He came in and he goes, you're Maddie john Son.
[35:34] Speaker 5: I go, yeah, Cooper, and he goes Cooper John And
[35:36] Speaker 5: then he pulled out the jersey. He brought it into
[35:38] Speaker 5: there as well, took it. Everything on the radio was going,
[35:41] Speaker 5: Kyl's going, what have you got in that place? Like
[35:42] Speaker 5: a Wooli's bag.
[35:43] Speaker 3: He goes, it's Cooper's dad's jersey.
[35:46] Speaker 5: Maddie John's gave me this jersey in two thousand and five,
[35:49] Speaker 5: and I've come back to give it to him.
[35:50] Speaker 4: God.
[35:51] Speaker 5: And then we went to his live show and he
[35:53] Speaker 5: go he brought him at the back and then like
[35:55] Speaker 5: he was like, mate, I just want to give it
[35:57] Speaker 5: back to you because I know how much it means.
[35:58] Speaker 2: Your Dad's like, and I'm going. We walked out and
[36:01] Speaker 2: the boys just went how fucking weird was that?
[36:04] Speaker 3: It was just a night.
[36:04] Speaker 1: It was just a random nights Jersey.
[36:06] Speaker 2: It was sho gave Anella one oh.
[36:12] Speaker 5: Before we let you go, taking your time. I just
[36:15] Speaker 5: one of my favorite stories. I brought it up to
[36:17] Speaker 5: you not long ago, but the first time I ever
[36:20] Speaker 5: met you, Willy, was you were will leave the other
[36:22] Speaker 5: people's names out who were also at this airbnb. But
[36:25] Speaker 5: you remember you rented an airbnb around the corner one
[36:27] Speaker 5: off season here. Yeah yeah, yeah, you know yeah, and
[36:34] Speaker 5: you texted dad girl made him around the corner from
[36:36] Speaker 5: your house come around and Dad goes, oh, we'll go
[36:38] Speaker 5: see Willy and the boys.
[36:39] Speaker 3: And mate, like you were on one was hilarious, so funny.
[36:44] Speaker 2: It was fucking fun.
[36:45] Speaker 4: Mate.
[36:45] Speaker 2: I love Colorroid. Remember for a year, yeah, lifted for
[36:49] Speaker 2: a year. Yeah, up the road there, Yeah, twenty fifteen,
[36:52] Speaker 2: I was finishing school.
[36:53] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fun see you for I was just like,
[36:57] Speaker 1: I'm not traveling the air.
[37:00] Speaker 2: To join up here.
[37:01] Speaker 5: Mate, Well, we saw the owners not long ago and
[37:02] Speaker 5: I was walking like new owners. We were walking past
[37:05] Speaker 5: maybe a year ago. They've just done and we've said,
[37:07] Speaker 5: you will never guess who hired this place once in
[37:09] Speaker 5: an airbnb like friend obviously and we told them, and
[37:12] Speaker 5: we told them all the names who were there, and Mate,
[37:14] Speaker 5: the bloat's nate like.
[37:15] Speaker 3: The dad looked like he just bought a horror house.
[37:18] Speaker 3: It was like it was haunted by ghost.
[37:20] Speaker 2: That was one of the funnest weekends.
[37:23] Speaker 7: Why are we air be joined? Colrooydoy bring the boys. Yes,
[37:29] Speaker 7: always walked in. Holy it, it has been a fucking pleasure.
[37:36] Speaker 1: Mate, you come a long way for this made up
[37:38] Speaker 1: We appreciated and mate, once congratulating your career and what
[37:42] Speaker 1: you're doing now and the acting. Mate, I hope it
[37:44] Speaker 1: just keeps going north for your mate.
[37:48] Speaker 5: And that means a lot coming from a bloke who's
[37:50] Speaker 5: you've been in two movies. Mate, Let's not forget about
[37:52] Speaker 5: footy legends, what movies you played yourself.
[37:56] Speaker 1: What we'll do is I'm just gonna help give will
[37:57] Speaker 1: you little tips to pass on the wheel?
[38:00] Speaker 2: Sactly right? Thank you? Great siout it Thanks guys,

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