# The Best Economics Conversation You’ve Never Heard - Trump’s Economist Dr Laffer

An episode of [The Winston Marshall Show](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1727337401), 22 Sep 2026, 1 h 42 min.

Audio: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/APO8584300690.mp3

Get a better way to stay informed at https://ground.news/winston and see through biased media. Subscribe through my link for 40% off unlimited access.In this episode of The Winston Marshall Show, I sit down with legendary economist Dr Arthur Laffer to discuss the future of capitalism, taxation, socialism, and why Britain’s economy is failing. We explore the famous Laffer Curve, the failures of government intervention, China’s economic rise, free trade, Trump’s tariffs, and the decline of Western manufacturing. We also clash over whether economic cooperation with China can prevent war, and what it will take to restore prosperity to Britain and America.Our show is independently supported by you, consider signing up to our substack to get added benefits like ad-free and extended episodes here: https://www.winstonmarshall.co.uk/Chapters 00:00 Introduction 04:27 The Laffer Curve Explained 05:56 Why Laffer Opposes Wealth Redistribution 09:18 Monopoly, Market Failures & the Role of Government 14:44 What’s Wrong With American Healthcare? 19:28 Should Politicians Be Paid on Performance? 24:34 Inequality, Poverty & Fairness 29:47 Kennedy, Reagan & the Rising Tide 31:56 Trickle-Down Economics & Quantitative Easing 37:35 Should the Banks Have Been Allowed to Fail in 2008? 41:09 Did China Destroy American Manufacturing? 44:22 The Battle Over Free Trade With China 48:01 Should Britain Allow Chinese Ownership of Its Steel Industry? 56:11 Can America and China Ever Be Friends? 01:08:22 Laffer’s Prescription for Britain’s Economy 01:10:44 Mamdani, Socialism & Giving Politicians a Chance 01:13:42 What Laffer Really Thinks About Trump’s Tariffs 01:25:42 Could Tariffs Replace Income Tax? 01:29:05 Welfare, Minimum Wage & Enterprise Zones 01:34:10 The Final Clash Over China and American Industry

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