# Naomi Klein discusses the dangers of data centres, Steve Bannon’s hip hop musical and why our tech overlords want to be edgelords

An episode of [The Louis Theroux Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1725833532), 28 Oct 2026, 1 h 09 min.

Audio: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/GLT3698907628.mp3

Louis sits down with writer, activist and filmmaker Naomi Klein. They discuss Steve Bannon’s hip hop musical, why data centres are so dangerous, and the tech overlords/edgelords that inspired her latest book, End Times Fascism. Warnings: Strong language and adult themes. Links/Attachments: Book: End Times Fascism, Naomi Klein and Astra Taylor (2026) https://naomiklein.org/end-times-fascism/ Book: Doppelganger, Naomi Klein (2023) https://naomiklein.org/doppelganger/ Interview: The full-length interview with Elon Musk, The Economist (2026) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuoqKYxDHVc Play: The Thing I Am, Steve Bannon (1996-1997) https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/17/opinion/sunday/steve-bannon-hip-hop-shakespeare-rewrite-coriolanus.html Podcast: Bannon’s WarRoom (2019-present) https://open.spotify.com/show/0WyF2LaTcrpWfrTIeKjs1L Book: No Logo, Naomi Klein (1999) https://naomiklein.org/no-logo/ Song: Heart of Glass, Blondie (1979) https://open.spotify.com/track/4v2rkl1mC3zVAz0nXMx9r4 Documentary: Bowling for Columbine (2002) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0310793/ Credits: Producer: Tom Fuller Senior Assistant Producer: Maisie Ellen Williams Junior Production Manager: Rosie Pender Production Executive: Francesca Bassett Original Music: Miguel D’Oliveira Video Editor: Scott Edwards Audio Editor: Tom Guest Series Producer: Millie Chu Executive Producer: Arron Fellows A Mindhouse Studios Production for Spotify. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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