# S8 EP2: Marco Pierre White discusses his rift with Gordon Ramsay, retiring from cooking, and having lunch with Margaret Thatcher

An episode of [The Louis Theroux Podcast](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1725833532), 15 Jun 2026, 1 h 03 min.

Audio: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/GLT8241170448.mp3

Louis is joined in the Spotify studio by celebrity chef and enfant terrible of the culinary world, Marco Pierre White. Marco tells Louis about his complicated history with Gordon Ramsay, the moment he walked away from his three Michelin stars, and dining out with Margaret and Dennis Thatcher. Warnings: Very strong language and adult themes. Links/Attachments: Instagram Video: McMarco, Marco Pierre White (2026) https://www.instagram.com/reel/DUNvNxOjVnW/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet Art Film: Andy Warhol Eating a Hamburger, Jørgen Leth (1982) https://channel.louisiana.dk/video/jorgen-leth-andy-warhol-eating-hamburger Book: The Devil in the Kitchen, Marco Pierre White & James Steen (2006) https://www.waterstones.com/book/the-devil-in-the-kitchen/marco-pierre-white/james-steen/9780752881614 Book: White Heat, Marco Pierre White (1990) https://www.waterstones.com/book/white-heat-25/marco-pierre-white/9781845339906 Book: Humble Pie, Gordon Ramsay (2006) https://harpercollins.co.uk/products/humble-pie-gordon-ramsay?variant=32544979517518 TV Show: Hell’s Kitchen (2005-present) - ITV https://www.itv.com/watch/hells-kitchen/1a5021 Credits: Producer: Millie Chu Researcher: Mark Maughan Editor: Tom Fuller Assistant Producer: Maisie Williams Production Manager: Francesca Bassett Music: Miguel D’Oliveira Executive Producer: Arron Fellows A Mindhouse Studios Production for Spotify www.mindhouse.co.uk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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