# Ep 71 When Walks Go Flat, Dealing with The Pancake Dog & Mitten Games

An episode of [Help! My Dog: The Podcast. Dog Behaviour & Training Strategies that Work!](https://invisiblenetwork.ai/podcast/1721245241), 9 Apr 2025, 22 min.

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Have you ever been on a walk where your dog decides to stop dead in their tracks, refusing to move? They might also lie down and flatten themselves on the ground making it even harder to move them on without dragging them across the pavement (or sidewalk for the Americans). We call this “pancaking”! In this episode, you’ll be introduced to the “pancake dog”. We’ll talk about why they do it and what you can do about it (without having to drag them along behind you!). We’ll be sharing some top tips and strategies for those dogs that just seem to freeze at the sight of another dog, person or other trigger, the ones that flatten at the thought of a walk or those that can’t seem to make it out the door or back home without becoming a pancake! ................ Whether your dog is unpredictable with other dogs or predictably bad… Whether it looks like freezing, barking, lunging or running away… Whether you are just starting out on your dog-owning journey or your dog has been labelled as having a “behaviour problem”… … this episode is for you and is going to give you huge insights! Want to join the Help! My Dog Online HUB? Here's the link: www.helpmydog.com/hub Dr Tom is a world-renowned veterinarian, behaviourist and dog trainer and director of the Behavet behaviour clinic (rated Excellent on Trustpilot), which sees over 400 pet behaviour consultations each and every month no matter where you are in the world. In 2023, he started Help! My Dog, an online dog behaviour learning platform to help even more owners all over the world and show that dog behaviour transformation is not only possible but it's FUN, with the right know-how! Make sure to subscribe/follow the podcast for the free weekly episodes! Useful Links: Follow Help! My Dog on FaceBook: https://www.facebook.com/helpmydogofficial/ Schedule a Consultation with Behavet: https://www.beha.vet/ Follow Behavet on FaceBook: https://www.facebook.com/behavet

## Transcript

[0:00] SPEAKER_00: Rabbit smelling thing, which is is what it is.
[0:02] SPEAKER_00: I think Holly is right.
[0:03] SPEAKER_00: Um, with some added scent of human and dog.
[0:06] SPEAKER_00: Wow, that is an image.
[0:09] SPEAKER_00: Before we dive in, a warning.
[0:12] SPEAKER_00: The content of this podcast may not be appropriate for some young listeners.
[0:17] SPEAKER_00: This is real life, and that means that sometimes it can be a little bit graphic.
[0:21] SPEAKER_00: So listen on at your own peril.
[0:24] SPEAKER_00: As a veterinarian, dog behaviourist, best-selling author and trainer, over the past decade I've had an obsession with transforming the behaviour of dogs.
[0:33] SPEAKER_00: Understanding their brains and creating practical strategies that you can implement easily at home.
[0:39] SPEAKER_00: I know all too well when the dream you imagined when you first got your dog is far from your daily reality.
[0:46] SPEAKER_00: In fact, out of the blue, a few months ago, my little dog Gorse was bitten by a dog 20 times her size.
[0:52] SPEAKER_00: And suddenly our life of stress-free walks, a calm and cuddly household, and being teammates was replaced with reactivity, anxiety, and worrying about what's around the next corner.
[1:03] SPEAKER_00: I'm Dr.
[1:04] SPEAKER_00: Tom, this is the Help My Dog Podcast, and this is me documenting that journey of transformation, sharing my knowledge and experience with you and having a few laughs along the way.
[1:15] SPEAKER_00: Hello, HMD family, welcome to this episode of the Help My Dog Podcast.
[1:22] SPEAKER_00: And today we are talking about the case of the pancaking dog.
[1:27] SPEAKER_00: And so I don't know if you've if you've ever experienced this with your dogs where they kind of pancake, they kind of just go flat and they are just almost a little bit stuck.
[1:39] SPEAKER_00: And that commonly happens when they see another dog, when they see a person, when they see some form of distraction, or sometimes it'll just happen seemingly randomly.
[1:54] SPEAKER_00: And so it's a question that weirdly we've been getting a lot lately of my dog just lies down on walks and I can't get them to move, or they lie down when they see another dog, and I can't get them to move.
[2:04] SPEAKER_00: And I thought actually it'd be worth talking about and understanding a little bit more, and understanding what we can do to help your dogs in that.
[2:12] SPEAKER_00: So, first of all, what is happening?
[2:15] SPEAKER_00: Why are these dogs just lying down and not moving?
[2:18] SPEAKER_00: It seems surely very counterproductive.
[2:21] SPEAKER_00: Um and the answer is that it can be really triggered by two different scenarios.
[2:26] SPEAKER_00: The first scenario that can trigger this is um when your dog sees a distraction.
[2:32] SPEAKER_00: And so what can happen is that it when your dog sees a distraction, like another dog or a person or a car or whatever else, and they struggle to disengage from that distraction, um, and they struggle to um they struggle to kind of think that distraction's not my circus, not my monkeys.
[2:52] SPEAKER_00: What can happen with some dogs is that they pull towards that distraction or they bark at that distraction or they run towards that distraction.
[2:59] SPEAKER_00: But what can happen with some dogs is actually they struggle to disengage so much that they can't even disengage from the space that they're in to step towards that distraction, right?
[3:11] SPEAKER_00: They're truly so unable to disengage that they are completely stuck in the moment.
[3:17] SPEAKER_00: And what they do is they lie down, they pancake, and what I want you to realize is that it's exactly the same almost weakness or skill deficit that is causing that, as for the dogs that run up to the other dogs and or run up to the people or bark at them or lunge towards them or pull towards them.
[3:34] SPEAKER_00: It's that skill of disengagement.
[3:36] SPEAKER_00: In order to move forward or move away, we have to be able to disengage from stopping and staring.
[3:44] SPEAKER_00: Right?
[3:44] SPEAKER_00: Think about it, it makes sense.
[3:46] SPEAKER_00: They're so they're finding it so difficult to disengage from stopping and staring that they can't engage with it more.
[3:53] SPEAKER_00: And they can't disengage either.
[3:55] SPEAKER_00: So, um, disengagement can be the first cause.
[3:58] SPEAKER_00: And we'll talk about some scenarios as to why, what to do about it in a second.
[4:03] SPEAKER_00: But the second reason why pancaking can happen is it can be a bucket overflow behavior.
[4:09] SPEAKER_00: So imagine think of it like this: your dog's got this thing called a stress bucket.
[4:14] SPEAKER_00: Exciting things pay into the bucket, scary things pay into the bucket, frustrating, frustration pays into the bucket, all kinds of things pay into the bucket.
[4:23] SPEAKER_00: And you imagine that as you go on your walk, things are paying into that bucket all the time.
[4:29] SPEAKER_00: And it might be that things are paying into that bucket quicker than that bucket is emptying, right?
[4:36] SPEAKER_00: And so at some so what's happening is it's filling.
[4:39] SPEAKER_00: And as it's filling, your dog's almost getting more and more stuck, right?
[4:44] SPEAKER_00: More and more like stuffy in their head is that is a good way to think about it.
[4:48] SPEAKER_00: And what can happen is that it can fill and fill and fill until the point whereby they just kind of get stuck in the moment and they just lie down and they just go, you know what, it's almost like a state of overwhelm, is how you could think about it.
[5:01] SPEAKER_00: But it's not overwhelm triggered by, oh, something just happened.
[5:05] SPEAKER_00: It's a build-up over the course of the walk.
[5:08] SPEAKER_00: And for some dogs, this might even be at the start of the walk because what they're doing is they're anticipating all the things that are gonna fill their bucket, and so they've already paid into their bucket.
[5:18] SPEAKER_00: You know, the thought is as good as the event itself, right?
[5:22] SPEAKER_00: Um, and I think that's something that sometimes as owners we maybe don't acknowledge enough.
[5:27] SPEAKER_00: Like if I get you to think about, I don't know, think about if you celebrate Christmas, right?
[5:33] SPEAKER_00: Think about Christmas and think about Christmas morning and think about um all the things that happen on Christmas Day, and that they tend to be exciting things, but also very stressful things, right?
[5:44] SPEAKER_00: Mixing with family, yeah.
[5:46] SPEAKER_00: Um, and what as you're thinking about that, your your stress bucket is filling because you're in a state of anticipation and predicting, and you're thinking about those events, and they're triggering the same emotional response because you're you're predicting them.
[6:00] SPEAKER_00: And that's what can happen when your dog goes on a walk.
[6:02] SPEAKER_00: They're anticipating that one step leads to the next step, leads to seeing the dog, leads to seeing the person, leads to, I don't know, chasing the tennis ball, leads to um there's a dog that that barks and snaps at your dog under the fence at a particular stretch of the walk.
[6:16] SPEAKER_00: Um and these are filling the bucket as you step out of the front door.
[6:20] SPEAKER_00: And so what you can find is that some dogs, you know, you're five steps into the walk and they go, pancake, right?
[6:27] SPEAKER_00: Or you go get their harness to put their harness on and they go pancake, right?
[6:33] SPEAKER_00: Or you um go to go out the door and they go pancake, right?
[6:38] SPEAKER_00: Or some dogs, you go to get them out of their bed to go for a walk and they go, I'm already stuck.
[6:45] SPEAKER_00: Because I'm already in a state of anticipation, I'm already overwhelmed.
[6:49] SPEAKER_00: Yeah?
[6:50] SPEAKER_00: So we worked with a dog recently with this, a very young dog, very sweet dog, he's about nine months old.
[6:56] SPEAKER_00: Um, and his owners were super concerned because he was such a he's such like a seemingly fun-loving, happy dog, and suddenly he would start to not want to get out of his crate to go on a walk.
[7:08] SPEAKER_00: Um, and he would go and go and get into his crate if he if he thought a walk was happening.
[7:14] SPEAKER_00: And the thing is that then progressed because um the owners wanted him to have this positive experience of going on a walk, so they started to fish him out of the crate, right?
[7:23] SPEAKER_00: Um but then what started to happen is he started to growl when he was being approached in the crate, and it was purely just that he was in a state of overwhelm.
[7:31] SPEAKER_00: He was in a state of overwhelm, and that state of overwhelm ultimately came about because he didn't quite have the skills to thrive in the world that he found himself in, okay, which was the world of the walk.
[7:42] SPEAKER_00: So these are the two causes of why a dog might lie down, why a dog might pancake.
[7:48] SPEAKER_00: We've got inability to disengage, we've got a overflowing bucket or very full bucket.
[7:54] SPEAKER_00: Now, what can we do about that?
[7:56] SPEAKER_00: What can be some strategies that we can play around with?
[7:59] SPEAKER_00: Well, I think first and foremost, we can grow the skills of disengagement.
[8:03] SPEAKER_00: If you haven't yet done the Help My Dog Walks a Stressful 10-day course, then that would be an awesome place to start, okay?
[8:11] SPEAKER_00: Because that we start to unpick and grow disengagement, unpick disengagement struggles and grow disengagement.
[8:20] SPEAKER_00: And you're gonna get some great tools in that to to kind of run with.
[8:40] SPEAKER_00: Okay, so what I mean by that is sometimes if we've been given that advice that in order to improve our dog's behavior that is problematic, we must socialize them in the sense of get them to interact with people and get them to interact with other dogs.
[8:54] SPEAKER_00: That's effectively setting up the expectation that when they see another dog, they or see a person, they're going to engage with that person.
[9:02] SPEAKER_00: That therefore is promoting an inability to disengage, and that therefore can promote pancaking, right?
[9:10] SPEAKER_00: Um, so that's the um the second thing that I'd think about.
[9:13] SPEAKER_00: So growing disengagement skills through games, second thing is making sure we're not accidentally growing an inability to disengage through the choices that we're making.
[9:22] SPEAKER_00: And the third is, hey guys, I just want to take a moment to answer a question that has been coming in in literally 10 emails a day, and that is, how can we help you with your dog's behavior struggle, whether that be reactivity, separation, anxiety, resource guarding, maybe you've got multi-dog household struggle right now, maybe your dog's just so overaroused on a walk that they just can't listen to you and they're chasing everything inside.
[9:47] SPEAKER_00: Like, can I get Tom's help?
[9:49] SPEAKER_00: Um, and the answer is that actually you can, and you can do that by booking a behavet behaviour consultation.
[9:57] SPEAKER_00: That's where literally my team give you the plan on how to transform your struggle and get you to that dream that that made you get a dog in the first place, right?
[10:07] SPEAKER_00: Your world's got smaller and smaller and smaller, and actually it doesn't need to be that way.
[10:11] SPEAKER_00: You just need to reach out for help.
[10:13] SPEAKER_00: Now, a couple of things to say on that.
[10:15] SPEAKER_00: First of all, if you're insured, if your dog's insured with Pet Plan, Kennel Club, Agria, or many pets, we actually do direct claims with them, which means that that's covered by your insurance.
[10:25] SPEAKER_00: So you don't pay out of your pocket, your insurance covers that.
[10:30] SPEAKER_00: And the second thing to say is that we have loads of options if you're insured with another provider, or if your dog's not insured at all, that's also totally fine.
[10:38] SPEAKER_00: We have loads of options that we've developed to make this so accessible for you.
[10:42] SPEAKER_00: Um because we're aware that you've already invested a load of time and a load of money in getting your dog, looking after your dog, caring for your dog.
[10:49] SPEAKER_00: But the last thing we want is for you to have done all that and still not be living the life that you deserve with your dog.
[10:54] SPEAKER_00: And we know we can get you there.
[10:55] SPEAKER_00: So all you need to do is go to the Behave Vet website, and the way to do that is go B E H A.
[11:05] SPEAKER_00: That's behet, and it will take you there, or just Google Behave Vet, right?
[11:11] SPEAKER_00: Um, and you can get scheduled in, and we can literally get you booked in for a consultation as soon as possible.
[11:18] SPEAKER_00: We normally can accommodate it within a week, right?
[11:20] SPEAKER_00: So that you can be getting to your dream ASAP.
[11:23] SPEAKER_00: And the third is um the the kind of cure for overwhelm and the cure for stuffiness and the cure for just generally being unable to think or do anything, which is effectively what's happening with with pancaking, is just get moving.
[11:43] SPEAKER_00: Like think about it from a human perspective.
[11:45] SPEAKER_00: You get yourself moving, you go, you know, you you go for a wonder, you just go for a stretch, you you stand up from your chair, and already it feels a little bit different.
[11:56] SPEAKER_00: And so what I get your what I'd start to practice with your dogs is an almost get moving cue, and it can be anything, you know, it doesn't matter, it can be like a noise or a word and um an attention noise.
[12:08] SPEAKER_00: Um, and what you're gonna do is you're you're first of all gonna teach them a noise.
[12:13] SPEAKER_00: So, for example, it might be you go brp and then throw a piece of food, prp, throw a piece of food, brp, throw a piece of food.
[12:19] SPEAKER_00: Um, and that that prp becomes, you'd have to do that.
[12:22] SPEAKER_00: Um I just picked something.
[12:24] SPEAKER_00: Um this is something that I find myself, a noise I find myself making often.
[12:27] SPEAKER_00: Um, what that becomes, the that that noise becomes oh, get yourself moving, ooh, engage with my owner, oh, you know, stand up and get going, right?
[12:36] SPEAKER_00: Um and what what you do is you start by playing that in a session.
[12:40] SPEAKER_00: So you start by um you know doing doing it repeatedly like I just did it, keep it really fun, keep it really light, but then start to phase two, start to randomly do it throughout the day.
[12:50] SPEAKER_00: Yeah, your dog's, I don't know, having a sniff over there in the living room, right?
[12:54] SPEAKER_00: We'll do the oh, throw a piece of food, yeah?
[12:57] SPEAKER_00: So it becomes really like, oh, this could happen at any moment, and they practice stopping what they're doing and hearing the attention noise and going and getting the piece of food.
[13:07] SPEAKER_00: Then start to phase three is start to do it randomly on walks.
[13:11] SPEAKER_00: Yeah?
[13:12] SPEAKER_00: What's phase four gonna be?
[13:13] SPEAKER_00: Try and do it when they pancake, yeah, and see if that just gets them moving.
[13:17] SPEAKER_00: And the more we can get our dogs to practice being pancaked to get moving, and they realize, ooh, when I get moving, I feel way better.
[13:27] SPEAKER_00: It becomes easier over time.
[13:29] SPEAKER_00: But you've got to get them using that pathway in the first place.
[13:32] SPEAKER_00: So that's the third thing that we can do in this.
[13:34] SPEAKER_00: So this is like action-packed this episode, it's it's fast fire, sorry, it's like value explosion.
[13:40] SPEAKER_00: Um, next thing is let's look at the bucket, okay?
[13:44] SPEAKER_00: And the thing is that um there are there are almost two reasons why your dog might be, your your dog's bucket might be overflowing on your walks.
[13:53] SPEAKER_00: The first is that too much is paying into the bucket.
[13:56] SPEAKER_00: What I want you to realize is this is really simple to dissect.
[14:00] SPEAKER_00: Either we're putting stuff in the bucket or the world is putting stuff in the bucket.
[14:05] SPEAKER_00: We can control the stuff that we're putting in the bucket, right?
[14:08] SPEAKER_00: We can decide if we're gonna play crazy frisbee with our dogs or not.
[14:11] SPEAKER_00: We can decide if we're gonna play crazy chuck it ball throwing with our dogs or not, right?
[14:16] SPEAKER_00: And so maybe we need to adapt what we're the the the experiences we're doing with our dogs on walks.
[14:23] SPEAKER_00: Maybe instead we could play some simple scent games, some of the games in the Help My Dog Walks a Stressful 10-day course.
[14:30] SPEAKER_00: They would be appropriate.
[14:31] SPEAKER_00: And remember that enrichment doesn't always need to be arousing.
[14:35] SPEAKER_00: Enrichment actually should be low arousal a lot of the time.
[14:38] SPEAKER_00: Um, so that's the first thing, what we what we're paying into the bucket.
[14:41] SPEAKER_00: What the environment is paying into the bucket, this we can influence and change how our dog sees other dogs or people or or noises or vehicles through um disengagement games, through optimism games, um, through games that teach your dog a calm, positive emotional response to the world.
[15:03] SPEAKER_00: Um and there are you know there are those in the Help My Dog Walks Stressful Course, in the Help My Dog Hub, there's literally tons of them.
[15:10] SPEAKER_00: That those will be your resources for that.
[15:13] SPEAKER_00: Um and um then thirdly, we talk about anticipation.
[15:19] SPEAKER_00: Is it that your dog is anticipating things happening and therefore things are paying into the bucket?
[15:24] SPEAKER_00: Well, quite simply what we do there is we say, just because you think we're going for a walk doesn't mean we're going for a walk.
[15:30] SPEAKER_00: Let's get rid of the anticipation and the prediction.
[15:33] SPEAKER_00: Yeah?
[15:34] SPEAKER_00: How might we do that?
[15:35] SPEAKER_00: Maybe we pick up the lead and put it down sometimes.
[15:37] SPEAKER_00: Maybe we put their harness on and we, I don't know, play some games with our dogs in the garden or in the living room or wherever, it doesn't matter, and then we take the harness off.
[15:48] SPEAKER_00: Maybe we put the harness on the lead on, we open the front door, but we're gonna play games on the threshold of the door, and then we're gonna give our dog a long-lasting chew.
[15:57] SPEAKER_00: Maybe we um put our dog's harness on and give them a long-lasting chew.
[16:03] SPEAKER_00: Yeah?
[16:04] SPEAKER_00: Maybe we we put their harness on, put their lead on, go sit on the sofa, read a book, give them a long-lasting chew.
[16:11] SPEAKER_00: Right?
[16:12] SPEAKER_00: So that these things don't aren't getting linked to all the steps of a walk and all the things that they see.
[16:19] SPEAKER_00: Yeah?
[16:19] SPEAKER_00: If your dog's starting a walk with a fresh brain, clean sleigh, I always like to imagine this as an extra sketch.
[16:26] SPEAKER_00: I don't know if you had one of those.
[16:28] SPEAKER_00: I feel like it was like a 90s, 90s child thing, maybe, where you would draw the picture with like the little knobs on there, and then and then the the more advanced one, you had a pen, yeah?
[16:39] SPEAKER_00: Um and you'd be able to draw like a basic like grey line drawing.
[16:43] SPEAKER_00: And then what you would do is you'd either swipe the bottom to get rid of the picture, or you could like, I think there was one where you could shake it and it would go, right?
[16:51] SPEAKER_00: Um, but I guess what I want you to think about, where am I going with this?
[16:56] SPEAKER_00: I guess what I want you to think about is that if your dog's in a state of anticipation, they've already drawn the etcher sketch, right, before it happens.
[17:05] SPEAKER_00: So you could make all kinds of great decisions on your walk and think you're drawing your own picture.
[17:11] SPEAKER_00: They've already drawn the picture, right?
[17:14] SPEAKER_00: And so with that, they're already experiencing the emotions that come with that expectation, and the bucket is full based on what they are anticipating.
[17:24] SPEAKER_00: When your dog enters a walk with a fresh with a fresh brain, it's like swiping the bottom of the etchasketch and deleting the picture.
[17:31] SPEAKER_00: Now we get to draw that.
[17:33] SPEAKER_00: So our you know, our master plan, our great plan of how we're gonna have this, you know, calm, enriching but low arousal walk, that can actually we can actually see the results of that because now we're working with a clean slate.
[17:45] SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I could have just said a clean slate all along, but I hope you enjoyed that little journey we went on.
[17:50] SPEAKER_00: So guys, on the subject of journeys.
[17:52] SPEAKER_00: I hope you got got value from that and you've got some insight into pancaking dogs and what to do about it.
[17:57] SPEAKER_00: Um often dog ownership is a journey, and sometimes we forget while we're on that journey that the reason why we started that journey is because we want a variety uncertainty and some laughs in our life and companionship that wasn't robotic.
[18:12] SPEAKER_00: Yeah?
[18:12] SPEAKER_00: And that's where the cringe story element of this um podcast comes in because we celebrate the fact that sometimes our dogs do things that are far from ideal, but we remind ourselves that this is secretly why we invited them into our lives.
[18:25] SPEAKER_00: So let's hear this cringe story from a listener.
[18:34] SPEAKER_00: And a few years ago, when my now past Holly, um, on oh, Holly the beard the the beardy collie um was about four.
[18:44] SPEAKER_00: That was a mouthful, Holly the the the beardy collie, um was about four.
[18:48] SPEAKER_00: We were at the dog park and she was playing with a golden retriever of about the same age.
[18:53] SPEAKER_00: They were having a great time and we were evenly matched in, and we're evenly matched in size and loving taking it in turns to chase or be chased.
[19:02] SPEAKER_00: The owner called her dog to her just to remind her she was there.
[19:06] SPEAKER_00: And the dog took a treat but pulled her owner's mitten off her hand.
[19:10] SPEAKER_00: Oh, mittens! The mitten was nice leather, oh, with rabbit fur lining inside, oh my word, I can see where this is going, and round the cuff.
[19:20] SPEAKER_00: Far too nice for dog walking, but warm for our frigid Canadian winter.
[19:25] SPEAKER_00: It's minus 30 degrees as I write.
[19:28] SPEAKER_00: What?
[19:29] SPEAKER_00: That's insane.
[19:30] SPEAKER_00: You need mittens in that weather.
[19:33] SPEAKER_00: And Holly hadn't seen the mitten being pulled off, but she was all in for the game as the golden ran off with it.
[19:40] SPEAKER_00: The chase was on, and the woman was frantically calling her dog, sticking her handing hand in her pocket to keep it warm.
[19:47] SPEAKER_00: The golden started tossing this mitten into the air.
[19:50] SPEAKER_00: I started to feel worried.
[19:52] SPEAKER_00: Holly wasn't interested in me at all before help my dog.
[19:55] SPEAKER_00: Love that.
[19:56] SPEAKER_00: And she did this perfectly timed leap over the golden, catching the mitten in mid-air in a manoeuvre that was remarkably agile.
[20:05] SPEAKER_00: So now Holly has the mitten, but she doesn't know it's a mitten.
[20:11] SPEAKER_00: I'm confused.
[20:11] SPEAKER_00: If she knew it was a mitten, would would she be putting it on?
[20:15] SPEAKER_00: And to her, it's this rabbit-smelling thing, which is what it is.
[20:19] SPEAKER_00: I think Holly is right.
[20:21] SPEAKER_00: Um, with some added scent of human and dog.
[20:24] SPEAKER_00: Wow, that is an image.
[20:26] SPEAKER_00: She heads off proudly with this thing playing keep away and sneaking into bushes where none of us could reach her and proceeds to shred the mitten to pieces.
[20:37] SPEAKER_00: No! Um I managed to get into the bushes and grabbed Holly and leashed her.
[20:43] SPEAKER_00: She was grumpy at being pulled off her prize.
[20:46] SPEAKER_00: Meanwhile, the golden ran in and grabbed some of the pieces of mitten.
[20:51] SPEAKER_00: She wasn't giving them up again.
[20:53] SPEAKER_00: I apologize to the woman.
[20:55] SPEAKER_00: I apologize to the woman who recognized that it was her dog who had instigated the episode and refused to take my offer of a contribution towards a new pair of mittens.
[21:06] SPEAKER_00: Holly and I left the dog park with her super tired and me super embarrassed.
[21:10] SPEAKER_00: You know what?
[21:11] SPEAKER_00: I think Holly was right.
[21:12] SPEAKER_00: I think that was the game to be played.
[21:14] SPEAKER_00: Um, love that cringe story.
[21:16] SPEAKER_00: Thank you for sending that in.
[21:17] SPEAKER_00: Now, guys, if you've got an embarrassing dog story, we keep these anonymous for you, so they can be, you know, as rude or, I don't know, illegal as they as you would like them to be.
[21:28] SPEAKER_00: Um, then email in at cringe at helpmydog.com.
[21:33] SPEAKER_00: So that's cringe at helpmydog.com and um and you might you might get your cringe story shared.
[21:41] SPEAKER_00: And and really, you know, you're doing a public service because we are celebrating and acknowledging that um dogs do fun things, and that's why we have them.
[21:51] SPEAKER_00: And we should not be embarrassed, we should celebrate these moments with pride.

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